Self improvement general /sig/

"Not wasting too much time in bed permits you to live longer"

"Too much sleep is not a benefit. Rather it is depressing, causes sluggishness and a state of lethargy. In fact it produces lassitude and may even stupefy the mind"

"It is distinctly unhealthy to overdo in any way. You must contract the habit of moderation in all things if you wish to be strong and healthy. Too much of work, play, rest, or sleep is not good for you. You must hit the happy medium."

>>38044286
"Regardless of your age, you should make it a rule to learn something new each day and to do something each day to improve yourself physically."

"It takes two to fight and if you don't, soon the others will be ashamed of themselves. No matter what happens don't let it disturb you, at least on the surface. Go through the jungles of trouble that may beset you on every side, as calmly, majestically, serenely and powerfully as a huge elephant in his native jungle, which, knowing the he's too big to be harmed by any other animal, leads a calm and happy life."

>>38044334
"Determination self denial and practice all lead to the maintenance of a tranquil mind."

"Do you constantly say, "I can't I'll fail"? Then you have learned to practice evasion and you are permitting yourself to be mentally weak.

Be positive, build positive traits. Know what you want to do and do it. Promise yourself not to let worry, anger, envy, jealousy, hate or any forms of mental restlessness steal into your being."

"Determine to be calm, that you will avoid negative mental processes. Get out and seek real interests, work, hobbies. The best hobby of all is physical training. Concentrate on your activities. Instead of worrying about the future, welcome the opportunity to face problems, ordeals or the battles of life. You can build yourself so that you obtain pleasure from overcoming, from defeating problems, apparently insurmountable difficulties. You can overcome all your difficulties and win. You will find the next encounter easier. You will have greater confidence in your own ability.

Each morning when you arise, repeat this magic formula to yourself: "I will be calm. Nothing can upset me or worry me today. I will not lose my temper, I will overcome all obstacles."

"Don't have mental ups and downs. Do not permit yourself to become too enthusiastic, too excited, over desireous, or covetous. Develop mental stability."

>>38045068
I've been reading the Art of War. It touches a lot on being opportunistic, to take opportunities as they come and to not procrastinate, as attacking early may not be good, but waiting has never been a better move. Don't have the book on me, but it's something like that.

>>38043912

bump.

under appreciated thread

people who mark the text disgust me

I am busy reading this book list.

The sex god method
Sexual intelligence
48 laws of power
Dress like a man, a style guide for men
Dave ramsay, The total money makeover
Adulting, how to become a grown up
Verbal judo
How to talk to anyone, 92 tricks
What everybody is saying
Think and grow rich napoleon hill
The war of art break through the blocks and win your inner creative battles
How to win friends and influence people
Rational male
Book of pook
99 attractive traits that drive women crazy
Women like meat, Megan Biesele
No more mister nice guy
The manual what women want
Models: attraction through honesty
The gallic wars, Julius Ceasar
Mary beard, SPQR
Infantry attack erwin rommel
Tommy: The british soldier on the western front
Storm of steel
The price of admirality, John Keegan
Lords of the sky, Dan Hampton
Overcoming gravity

There are some cringey books in there but there is no harm in reading them.

The Book of Pook is really good, there is a free pdf on the red pill subreddit.

>>38046383
there is actually great harm in reading the wrong material at the wrong time, or any material you are not prepared for.

ideas are powerful, dangerous things.

>>38046399

Fair point.

I feel like im in a turning point in my life, for the first time I am actually working on improving myself.

I find that I want to read a lot, I used to read a lot of fiction and now I want to replace that by reading non fiction, hence the list of books.

How do I avoid filling my mind with bad ideas?

The oxford handbook of philosophy of physics
How the laws of physics lie
A history of political theory
Heidegger: a very short introduction
German for reading
Hegel's philosophy of history

Goals are a very important part of self improvement.

I have made a list of long and short term goals for myself and whenever I have some free time I try to work on these goals.

Also I have a few daily goals like meditating, learning german, practice writing.

Striping a goal of my list works really motivating, I can recommend this to everyone.

>>38043912
I almost got mugged a couple of weeks ago. It shook me up a bit, but I've reached the point where I am somewhat thankful for the wake up call the senseless act of violence gave me. I got my ass back into jiu jitsu, which is a goal I've had for years but couldn't find the time for. I started going to muay thai once a week too, which is something I gave up in frustration after disheartening sparring sessions and injury. Most importantly, the random assault reminded me how unpredictable things are in life. I got out without a bruise or scratch, but that could have been different. Treasure life and spend time wisely (yet here I am, contradictions much). Getting back into martial arts has helped me discover my competitive side and masculinity. I highly recommend doing some kind of martial art to everyone. Teaches humility, dedication and discipline. Anyway, I just started reading some Marcus Aurelius, with the hope that his insights are rightly timed for where I am in life, and might provide some inspiration for keeping focused and disciplined as I take on new endeavors (I start a new job next week and am working on a grad school application portfolio for next year). These threads are under rated. Keep em going.

>>38046447

I recently did a trial lesson of MMA, but I think im going to do muay thai since I already have 11 years of judo experience.

Lessons start in august, looking forward to it.

>>38046415
I'm not in any position to give advice.

But that feeling of finally improving yourself is familiar to me, too. I also used to read a lot as a kid, and when I picked books back up I felt very relieved.

>>38046468

Well I'm just going to need to find out for myself then.

I hope that reading different books will give me different views so I can compare them and see what fits me best.

Some of the books I'm reading confirm thoughts I already had so thats positive I guess.

Stop watching porn, masturbation is fine but do not overdo it. Once or twice a week max.

Porn is like fast food and you should avoid it, that probably means not visiting /b anymore.

>>38043912

I bought this book. It's pretty based, Carnegie knew what was up. He's a better person than I am though, with the whole 'don't criticise people, it's counter productive'. That is not easy.

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A very good book that I've read recently on the topic of finance is The Education of Millionaires by Michael Ellsberg. No bullshit, straight to the point.

>What are you guys reading?
This page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectangular_potential_barrier

>>38044286
>tfw listening to Nicomachean ethics and it just keeps reafrirming my belief of balance being lifes key

>>38046937
Thanks man

Robert Greene is my nigga, I always refer back to his books

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>>38049086

Been listening to Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche on audiotape while I drive. Tried to read the book itself a few times and it feels like it sinks in better when inflection and tone is presented to me rather than left for me to discern from his meandering sentence structure.

Its very good, so long as you presume it's also painfully self aware. He displays an incredible understanding of human psychology, introspection and motivation for both his time and his profession.

"Whoever has seen deeply into the world has doubtless divined what wisdom there is in the fact that men are superficial. It is their preservative instinct which teaches them to be flighty, lightsome, and false. Here and there one finds a passionate and exaggerated adoration of "pure forms" in philosophers as well as in artists: it is not to be doubted that whoever has NEED of the cult of the superficial to that extent, has at one time or another made an unlucky dive BENEATH it. Perhaps there is even an order of rank with respect to those burnt children, the born artists who find the enjoyment of life only in trying to FALSIFY its image (as if taking wearisome revenge on it), one might guess to what degree life has disgusted them, by the extent to which they wish to see its image falsified, attenuated, ultrified, and deified,—one might reckon the homines religiosi among the artists, as their HIGHEST rank."

What podcasts does /fit/ listen to? I spend most of my day using my hands and not brain and need something to listen to, running out of audiobooks.

>>38045277
I read it when I needed it the most
taught me some valuable lessons
really useful

>>38046438
>Hegel
ma nigga

>>38046378
It's extremely helpful to mark books that you own. They function as references and resources that you can come back to. In the words of Dale Carnegie, "marking and underscoring a book makes it more interesting, and far easier to review rapidly." Knowledge is a tool, and storing it in a way that makes it easier to get at in the future is very helpful.

>>38046415
>>38046399
Interesting point fellas. I was thinking about this last night as I was reading a chapter in 48 Laws of Power. It's a very interesting book and some people compare it to Carnegie's HtWFaIP, but where HtWFaIP encourages you to be a better person, a good person, I feel like t48LoP encourages you to be a bad person, to be manipulative, duplicitous, dishonest. I sometimes wonder if I should even be reading it.

>>38046564
It certainly isn't lol.

>>38043912
Too bad I have to go in 30 minutes 8at least it is Sig related, a meetup.com meetup with important people for networking)

I have a few archived /sig/ thread with all the cool stuff. One day I'm gonna revise them and Dump a good updated version here.
let's hope this thread is alive tomorrow.

Thanks OP!

>>38049158
Ben Greenfield fitness podcast
Live life aggressively podcast
Jocko podcast

Also mbmbam is really good as a light, positive comedy podcast

>>38049071

Lol thats my post.

>>38049426
lol

>>38049071

Its this list.

>>38046383

But in the mean time I added a few more.

Mental health goes on /adv/, /fit/ rule number 2

>>38049472

I think this thread is more about aelf improvement.

So changes to your day to day life.

The books we are posting are a helpfull tool for this.

>>38049071
>>38046383
This is a horrific mish-mash of trash and decent books.

Let me offer a more refined list for "self-help" (please note this is just a basic list whipped up on the spot)

Ethics/Philosophy:
The Story of Philosophy - Bryan Magee
Apology - Plato (try to read Euthyphro before, and Crito and Phaedo after)
Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle (you may want to read Politics after)
Principal Doctrines - Epicurus (http://www.epicurus.net/en/principal.html)
Letter to Menoecus - Epicurus (http://www.epicurus.net/en/menoeceus.html)
On the Nature of Things - Lucretius
Selected Works - Cicero
Discourses, Fragments, Handbook - Epictetus
Letters from a Stoic; On the Brevity of Life - Seneca
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius
Consolation of Philosophy - Boethius
The Daodejing - Lao Tzu
Zhuangzi - Zhuangzi
In the Buddha's Words: An Anthology of Discourse from the Pali Canon

I know this is mostly classical, but it will suit you well enough. For publishers, go for the following: Oxford University Press, Cambridge University Press, Hackett Publishing.

Fiction/Inspirational/Epics/you know what I mean:

The Iliad & Odyssey - Homer (Fitzgerald, Fagles, or Lattimore are good translations)
The Histories - Herodotus
History of the Peloponnesian War - Thucydides
Anabasis - Xenophon
The History of Rome - Titus Livy
The Gallic Wars - Caesar
The Civil War - Lucan
The Aeneid - Virgil
The Metamorphoses - Ovid
Lives of the Caesars - Suetonius
Lives of Eminent Romans and Greeks - Plutarch
The Cossacks - Tolstoy

Again this is mostly Classical, but there's no point in going through every existent work of literature for a list when these suit the purpose fine. Again, go with university presses for your publisher choice, Penguin are good quality a lot of the time, but sometimes use older translations.

>>38049641

Thanks anon :) these will defenitely be added to my list.

What books would you defenitely remove from the list?

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>>38049824
A lot of the more contemporary "Self-Help" books.

My main issue is the mish-mash nature of the list, it jumps from banal guides to world war memoirs. I understand the list is just a shopping list, but I wouldn't advise following it.

Have another list.

>>38049882

Thanks :)

>>38050022
no probs lad.

Also check out Montaigne. He's great.

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What does he mean by this?
"Arouse in the other person an eager want"

>>38050062
make the other person metaphorically horny for your metaphorical dick

>>38050062

Also wondering what he means by that.

>>38050062
pretentious way of saying, "Withhold information so that the faggot you're trying to scam will take the bait."

>>38046447
don't underestimate the value of an open platform
to communicate with hundreds of others at a time. not only does it give you positive ideas, but it lets you share your own with others, which is just as important

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>>38043912
Reading: The Power of Habit.
Would recommend.

Learned about the Basal Ganglia. Its an evolutionary very old part of your brain. It looks for cues and rewards. If it finds them it learns and streamlines them into automatic routines. Your brain, when it notices a known cue, goes into a low processing mode that can perform surprisingly complex tasks.
These are utilized by habits.

I've been trying to identify where I can string behaviors and habits together. Like I'm on 4chan because I just finished jerking off and my tendency to stay off this site just plummets. I've also started reading before bed, and studying french before I get out of bed after I wake up. Sleeping is the most consistent cue I can think to build off of, so it seems like a good place to start.

I've always been resistant to the idea of being slave to a routine. Don't want to sink into a monotonous. But knowing that there is an autonomous part of the brain that is pretty damn powerful, it seems like the best move is to work with it and use it as a tool, rather than letting it run haphazardly. Sort of like controlling fire.

>>38044286
6.5 hours of sleep is choice.
Some times gotta take naps to cover deficit, but its better than taking more of something you can't store up.

I found out today through metacognition that I often fall in to leadership positions in any group activities or work shit. I also realized I hate being the fucking leader, because I'm bad at it. I'm unorganized, lazy, and hate people. However I hate disappointing others so people think I'm a good leader.

I'm going to take this realization and actually work on my leadership skills.

>>38049433
lol

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>>38046383
>red pill subreddit

>>38049317
I don't know the book, but I think if you are cognizant of materials intent, and you can keep in mind your our views then you have little to worry about. Might need to read it a bit slower and put in the time of reflecting what is written with what you value.

What are you supposed to do when you can't even ask people on the streets for the time or directions?

I mean, that's an advice people give often, right? If you want to talk to girls, start low, ask random people on the street for directions.

I tried doing that today, but I just couldn't. My heart raced and I couldn't do it. Didn't wanna intrude those peoples' lives. I feel like such a failure. Pls help guys

>>38049382
Someone shared these links one day:

Back in the days, we had an "Fit Information Repository" with over 3.2 GB of ebooks and fitnes information on absolutely everything.

Is the download still available or should I upload everything and share it?

>>38051453
http://thewisesloth.com/2015/02/09/the-confidence-talk/
http://thewisesloth.com/2014/11/11/tips-on-impressing-women/

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2014/03/find-true-confidence/
http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2011/10/build-your-confidence/all/1/
http://www.doctornerdlove.com/tag/confidence/

In my experience:
Read in this order:
"no more mr. nice guy"(if needed)
"how to win friends and influence people"
"Model"

Also get shredded as fuck and analyse your surrounding. As soon as you see that people tread you different when you are a sick cunt, it will be a lot easier.
And start to see females as a "not so important" goal in your life.

>>38051453
start lower - talk to people you already know, get into some social activities where contact is forced, just like urban exploration or whatever you can find on facebook or any other medium.

>>38051453
>>38053519

Oh, and read about progressive muscle relaxation by Jacobson, it's great for anxiety. Do one or two sessions before planned talking. Don't listen to this guy above, unless you want to be hater.

>>38043912
I've worked on some German through Rosetta Stone. do any of you have experience with it? i torrented it, but after looking at some reviews I'm a little worried about its efficacy. the really high price probably has a lot to do with low reviews

>>38053574
Memrise is your friend, it's free, really fast and effective. And they have new German course added like month ago, great stuff.

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I've never been in a committed relationship with a girl and I think its because I cum too fast. When I get drunk, I last for a pretty good time and don't have any problems fucking sloots from bars/clubs.

But I'm deathly afraid of not being able to please a girl if I get into a relationship. Please help me out guys, how do I last longer? Right now its about 2-3 mins which is pathetic.

>>38054856
Fap first and switch positions a lot (choose uncomfortable ones and think about your discomfort).

>>38053607
Memrise is great for vocab, Ive been doing the french and its been going pretty well. Just screwed up a 37 day streak, so I'm trying duolingo again. Duo definitely helps improve the understanding of grammar.

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>>38054897
>foreplay
>switch positions
>eat her pussy/ass


Just go slow bro. Tease her for a bit.
Like start kissing and then slowly work your way down to her pussy. Play with her pussy for a bit and then as time goes by get more and more aggressive. Then once shes all horny you fuck her right in the pussy.

Side note: Make sure you don't take to much time on the foreplay and ass eating.

you'll be good.
If you want drink a little before you fuck. If shes cool with weed then you both can 420balzeit before you fuck.

good lick nigs

>>38053574
yo, German here. Do you wanna skype or something senpai? I'm bored

>>38053519
what are some social activities I could do, I don't think there's much urban exploration going on here and I can't think of anything else.

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>ITT no one will ever know the wisdom

>>38049317
I bought that book, started reading a brief intro to the laws, closed it and never touched it again.
my philosophy is to get what you want be being good and likeable. 48 laws really rubs me the wrong way. I mean, even if you get what you want by being a conniving prick, are you really living a good life?

>>38055207
weed helps a lot but I wanna be able to fuck her without being fucked up all the time.

I don't seem to be able to penetrate for longer than a few minutes when sober without spraying

>>38046383

the book of pook is garbage tier

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In terms of investing, this is the only book you need to read.

As a future early retiree, I've done a ton of research, and this is the best book.

It's based off his highly regarded and quite entertaining Stock Series blog. You can also just read that.
http://jlcollinsnh.com/stock-series/

>>38043912

>BIG D MONEYS RULES FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT
>1. MEDITATE. EVERY DAY.
>2. WAKE UP EARLY AND GO TO BED EARLY.
>3. RUN. OUTSIDE. IN THE SUN.
>4. SET ATTAINABLE GOALS
>5. IF YOU'RE AFRAID OF DOING SOMETHING, DO IT.
>6. READ MOBY DICK GOD DAMNIT.

>>38055881
Why Moby Dick? Last I recall the book spends like 30 pages detailing the uses of whale fat.

>>38055971
not him, but just skim over parts of a book that are useless to you

>>38050479

They give solid advice.

But by all means ignore it just because it le reddit.

>>38053455

Please upload and share anon.

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Bump

>>38044286
Keep in mind that quote is from a time when the average man slept 10 hours per night, sleeping less than 7-8 hours has been consistently shown to be very unhealthy

>>38043912
How do I get a stronger voice?
How do I successfully express emotions?

Im a little bit autistic

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>>38049104
>Les Miserables
pretty enjoyable desu, not sure how it would help someone

>Notes from the Underground
Literally /r9k/: the book.

>Don Quijote
Ok

>Meditations
It's great but finding a translation that isnt shit, is quite fucked.

>>38055525
Read it 6 years ago
One of the greatest reads of my life

>>38055971
>>38056231
[DISDAIN FOR PLEBS INTENSIFIES]
like cmon nigga just use your fucking brain when reading a book and don't skip chapters

>>38056908
kys friendo

>>38055739

Why?

I thought he gave some decent advice.

>>38055739
book of pook is fine if you can ignore the retarded parts

realistically, anything that says you need to look inward for improvement is going to be fine for most people here

Why should I read Sartre's Being and Nothingness?

>>38058328
You shouldn't. He was a hack.

Books read over the last 6-8 weeks.

Work related.
CEH (Certified Ethical Hacker) V9.
CEH 2010
Metasploit Cookbook
NMap Cookbook
Nessus
Social Engineering for Pen Testers
Cyber Crime Police and You
Google Hacking
Instant Metasploit starter
Investigating Internet Crimes
Practical Malware analysis
The art of human hacking

Personal Development Books
4 Hour work week
6 Figure Second Income
Gorilla Mindset
The better man project
7 Habit of highly successful...
Man up
Nietzsche Man alone with himself
Bad men do what good men think

>>38057890

same shit every pua book puts up, except delivered in a ridiculous dramatica theme ala fucking lord of the rings for the "lessons".

its genuinely nothing special/unique/interesting

the only self improvement you guys need
>social skills
>people skills
>hygiene
>hobbies that aren't 4chan or anime
going to the gym is not a hobby. That's like saying going to the dry cleaners or barber is a hobby.

>girl: "so anon what do you do for fun?"
>autismo: "uhm, I work out. Do you know who mark rippetoe is? I follow his awesome routine"
>girl: "uhm... okay? What else do you do"
>autismo (read:You): "Oh well all I do besides go to the gym is watch chinese cartoons and post on chinese cartoon forums"

and you neckbeards wonder why no attractive women are interested in you...

"Manual de Derecho Penal" (Zaffaroni), "Starting Strength" (Rippletits) and "El Juguete Rabioso" (Arlt).

You should all read, it expands your mind and makes you overall a better person.

Can someone tell me why self improvement fags think reading will make them any different?

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>>38056923

I hope I can do it in the next days.
Can anyone suggest a good file sharer?

>>38059447
Reading expands your mind, it makes you consider things otherwise you wouldn't have considered, it teaches you other things you wouldn't have learned otherwise... It is overall good for you.

>inb4 bait
It's a reasonable question tho.

>>38059447
these people don't read for enjoyment they read so they can tell people that they read books, which makes them better than you because you do not read books.

>>38059474
>hygene

This shit right here. I don't know what advice you stored there but I hope it is not the shit you read in other self improvement posts/books/blogs.

If some pathetic fuck really needs read about how often to brush his teeth, shower, cut his finger and toe nails and all this shit he is beyond help.

>>38059474
Mega

>>38059474
Google Drive allows over 10gbs and will allow you to set up folders, so people can browse and download only what they want.

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>>38059571
>>38059604
>>38059631

Haha sorry, I mixed up the arrow for ebooks and pics.

There are 6 pictures in the Hygene folder.

I think I'll go woth google drive if this really works so cool.

>>38056908
Taking advice from literally the worst part of reddit. Kys

>>38059738

Their basic advice is:

Sleep well

Lift

Eat healthy

Improve yourself

Dont care too much about women


How is this bad advice?

The only reason you dislike reddit is bacause its another website than this autism containment site.

>>38060012
That's basic advice for being socially functional.

TRP is basically betas being as tryhard as possible. It's one of the most hilarious things on the internet.

>>38060012

Their advice may be good in some cases but most of the times it is bullshit.
No matter what the question is you will always see some idiot saying you should lift and raise your smv.

>my dad is dying and my mom drives me crazy
Lift and raise your smv.

>some bitch is saying I molested her and I'm losing my job
Lift and raise your smv.

This whole subreddit is some pathetic circlejerk. Read the sidebar, the suggested books and some posts. That's it. Leave this shithole. Guess who is giving advice? Some pathetic beings. Same as here on /fit/, most of the guys here are skinny or fat dyel faggots.

>>38055881
I tried meditating but didn't notice much change. What is meant to happen?

>>38060125

Meditate every day for the rest of your life.

There should be some changes to your brain within 8 weeks but you probably wont notice the difference.

Just like with lifting it takes a long time.

>>38060125
I started doing breathing exercises daily (I guess you could call it meditation).

>I'm way more relaxed overall
>I handle stressful situations better
>far less anxiety (before presentations, dates, meetings)
>longer sex sessions (could also be due to my improved stamina, but I have more control over my orgasm, hard to describe)

>>38050375
The Slight Edge also hones in on this, though less technical. It really highlights the incremental power of daily good habits, as well as the ones you think are harmless

>>38051453
Just do it man
I mean think if it was the other way around, if someone took 10 seconds out of your day to ask you the time, would you care? Would you get pissed? Would you think they're intruding your life? No man you'd answer the question and go back to living your life and not even remember their later 15 minutes later. So just what do you think is going to happen when you do it?
Don't make a big thing out of nothing

>>38059337
How is 7 habits of highly successful...? its on my own list, wondering how highly to prioritise

>>38059571
>If some pathetic fuck really needs read about how often to brush his teeth, shower, cut his finger and toe nails and all this shit he is beyond help.


He obviously isn't
He just needs to be told when and how to do these things and he's sorted. No biggie.


Honestly when are you people going to learn, there is no such a thing as common sense. If someone doesn't know something yet he's not a failure, he's not beyond help, he just doesn't know something yet.

>>38059425
found the kirchnerista

>>38060474
Not even close breh

>>38046415
>>38046415
The only foolproof way that I know of is to read a lot, even "bad" books.
You then have to use *your* intellect and experience to find out what is bad or trash, according to you, your environment and lifestyle.

I'm not saying to ignore the advice of people who recommend "good" books, and by all means, give it a go (HtWFaIP, or the 48LoP); but don't let it prevent you from reading material that you might find interesting. Thinking that a book is good because you were told so (like thinking the Mona Lisa is the best painting in the world because you were taught so for example) is pleb tier and shows a lack of critical thought.

After a while, it becomes easier and easier to sort the good and bad from books.

I read Engineering the Alpha a few years ago, and was able to sort through the cringy stuff (skipping whole chapters sometimes) and kept the stuff that interested me.

I need your help
Now that kickass torrents is kill I'm lost and I don't know where to browse for downloading books
Link me up please

>>38055426
sorry, was sleeping

anything that fits you, boulder climbing, pokemon hunt, herb gathering, yoga... anything. Look at your local social media, you'll find something.

>>38050062
Read the book dude.

In short it means to think about what the desires of the other person are, not just your own, as a way of motivating them.

>>38050375
>Sleeping is the most consistent cue I can think to build off of, so it seems like a good place to start.
Sounds smart.

>>38051453
Read HtWFaIP. It practically cured me of social phobia/avpd. Really one of the most important things that's happened to me in the last ten years.

>>38057810
skimming =/= skipping, you retard

im not gonna full on read parts of a book that arn't applicable to me

>>38055971
>the book spends like 30 pages detailing the uses of whale fat
Dayum, that's like fat hate threads taken to an academic level

>>38057777
What was good about it, mr quads?

>>38061148
It is brilliant. The protagonist is a horrible, miserable person but Nabokov draws you into his world, he uses all his eloquence and mastery of English to craft beautiful sentences which are a pleasure to read while the the subject is disgusting. Sometimes you can even feel sympathy for him. It pushes your boundaries and makes you appreciate every bit of effort the author put into it.

>>38061512
so its the Bojack Horseman of literature?? o_O

>>38061512
It is also fucking hilarious.

>>38055803
The only advice you need is:

To make money,you need to have money

>>38061526
I don't know that show

>>38061616
it gets easier to watch. but you gotta watch it everyday. thats the hard part

>>38046383
this is just cringe as fuck. time for me to get off 4chan. embarrassing

>>38060697
Pretty solid advice here, Anon.

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What's the 1 ultimate book you recommend Anon?

>>38063816
Myth of Sisyphus

>>38060744
I buy used books online mostly. Also check out thrift stores in your area or the library if you don't mind renting. Books are dirt cheap for their value so I don't have any qualms about paying 8-15 bucks or whatever to get a used book shipped to me

>>38063816
the bible. only book you need

>>38060314
ordered this one just now

me hungie

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tfw I find a lot advice that I agree with and could be useful, but I refuse to use them in my own life because I have an irrational belief that the person who gave the advice is a pretentious prick

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>>38061891
Getting off 4chan is generally good life advice.

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>>38046383
If you read Models first you'll probably won't need to read half of the other books on your list.

Also most of these books seem geared towards becoming more attractive, better in bed etc. You're treating the symptoms here, the cause is that you're being a needy insecure faggot and if you stop doing that your life will improve drastically.

>on the red pill subreddit.
Oh fuck its worse than I thought.

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Help me out here fellas, a lot of these books seem very geared towards men. A lot of it is just solid good advice for everybody don't get me wrong, but if I wanted to read some literature on how to be a superior woman what would should I check out? Are there any equivalents?

>>38065053
I honestly don't know. The signal to noise ratio for female advice must be awful, and a lot of it probably geared towards how to become a triggered landwhale femtard.

I know there is a female pickup artist subreddit, /r/fpua. Maybe that can help you? I dunno.

>>38065053
Depends on your goals, really. Do you want to be feminine, "good wife" and lure the best man you can find? Independent with career?

Most of these books are quite universal, how to be good human bean. How to be "good male" are cringeworthy, they are all about how to dress and so on - you can find "advices" like that for women everywhere.

>>38065053

how to be a superior woman:

>dont nag or complain

there, you win the game

>>38065053
The way to be a superior woman is through looks not behavior so look into skincare and diet and nutrition books

>>38060744
LibGen?

>>38065053

Here's one.


https://www.amazon.ca/First-Kill-All-Marriage-Counselors/dp/1940363861

>>38065328
Looks are more important for women than they are for men. But women's priorities are probably more geared towards having a relationship than the insecure betas on this board who just want to fuck as many girls as they can for validation because their dads never loved them.

So... skincare and diet and nutrition, and possibly therapy?

In fact therapy and resolution of cripping emotional issues would do everyone on this board far more good than lifting.

>>38065053

Check out The Red Pill Women subreddit.

They offer solid advice but people here hate reddit for some reason.

Not all of reddit is bad just like how not all of 4chan is good.

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>>38065378
>le reddit pill

>>38064823

I am not needy nor insecure.

I am content with my looks and sexlife I'm just looking to expand my knowledge.

These are just some books I found which seemed like they could be helpfull.

You can never know to much.

Thanks for the recommendation, I will defenitely be reading Models.

>>38065416

Here we go again.

They offer solid advice.

Its especially usefull for this anonette because its a reddit by women, for women, just what she is looking for.

But by all means never venture out of this autism containment website.

>>38065439
TRP is a dumpster fire of extremely butthurt men all circlejerking together over how shit women are, and wrapping a shitty half-baked philosophy around their crippling emotional issues, which is basically the same victim-complex you'll find on /r9k/ but with an element of self improvement mixed in. Self improvement, i.e. striving to become 'alpha', because nothing says 'alpha male' like rearranging your entire life around seeking validation and the approval of women through sex.

Its like a support group for people who have been traumatised and maimed by horrific car accidents. Except they all sit around talking about cars all day, how they hate cars and cars are fundamentally unsafe and can't ever be driven for any length of time without involving their driver in a twisted burning wreck on the highway... but they simultaneously want to borrow/steal as many cars as possible for joyrides because its the only way they can feel good about themselves.

Its a mess in there, and there are far more wholesome approaches to self improvement than letting your brain marinade in that pissmist of negativity.

>>38061526
>That stupid ass face at the end of your sentence
Disregard everything this faggot says
>>38061681

>>38060125
At first, I was like that as well, I didn't understand what was supposed to happen. This led to me stopping and not trying again but over time, I would try meditation during days I felt overwhelmed and for some reason it was so helpful in relieving me. Since I noticed that effect it had on me, I have been consistently doing it everyday or try to (I skip some days due to laziness) Some sessions will be better than others so expect that much. I will emphasize the point just about anyone who meditates will tell you, practice it everyday. It doesn't matter too much how long you do it, but just try to do it everyday. This way you'll experience it often enough to begin recognizing some of its effects. As opposed to doing it on random days where you'll forget the experience of the last session. I'll also add that the sessions can be quite soothing as you're doing it, so that's some incentive to practice it (it's kind of like a natural high like exercising)

>>38060744
>/lit/ sticky
Like the other anon said, libgen.
Kickass was terrible for books anon, libgen is great, has them in proper formats, and is direct download.

>>38057750
slighty flex your neck and jaw muscles

How do I successfully express emotions?

>you don't, faggot

>>38065588
>seeking validation and the approval of women through sex.
So you know nothing about it and are just spouting lies. Got it.

idk where to ask this so i'll ask my bros here


i'm thinking of going backpacking in South East Asia to try and get out my shell a bit.

Which countries are really safe for foreign tourists? i don't want to go anywhere dangerous

>>38066723
Nowhere. No, for real. Nowhere.
Foreigners are welcomed in SE Asia simply because they're foreign. To their eyes, you have money and if you have money, you can be their friend or family member. If you have no money, they'll treat you like shit. Even worse, if you have too much of it, you'll become an open target for pretty much anyone. The Philippines is a good example of this.

>>38066723
There is plenty of wild regions in Poland, and if you are white, you are very safe here. Nowadays everyone is batshit crazy about muslim migrants, so non-white persons can feel some tension.

>try to get into stoicism
>begin reading the manual of epictectus
>it says not to get upset if your wife or kid died

dropped 2bh , I believe you are ought to get some anger to get you the necessary resolve to accomplish some projects
Is it difficult to get into stoicism ?

>>38066951
stoicism is r9k tier, "I don't care they cucked me, r..right?"

>>38067001
what's a /fit/ ideology/ethics then ?

following roman virtues ?

>>38066951
Don't try to get into a philosophy.
Read books without the intent of believing and following what they say, just think about what they mean to tell you.
Yes, stoicism preaches a message that resonates with many people, that you should be mentally strong and disallow outside things affecting you, but there's a lot more to it that doesn't resonate that often.
Just keep reading and think.

>>38066757
what about vietnam and singapore?

i was hoping to go to one of those because thailand looks a bit too dangerous for me

i guess i'll just have to get smart and stay vigilant

>>38067041
I can't vouch for Singapore.
Some places in Vietnam literally hate white people. To them, a white person is an American, which doesn't really bode well. Even if you stay vigilant, I wouldn't suggest backpacking through any part of SEA, unless you have a weapon.

I would suggest looking into it a bit deeper and checking what people who have backpacked have to say.

>>38049071
>Half of these are "how do I get X to like me"
Fucking live for yourselves you sheep

>>38066296
any source for audiobooks?

>>38067030
You don't need any system. Just do things that are right and make you happy, especially in the long term.

>>38067290
Check /lit/, I hate audiobooks so I've never looked for any.

>>38067250
yeah i'm not gonna jump into anything too wild. doing my research as we speak.

overall the main complaint of SEA so far seems to be theft and getting overcharged.

malaysia and indonesia are definite no's at this point though

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>>38066384
>y-y-you know nothing about m-my reddit beta support group circlejerk cult! y-you're lying

No, this is my conclusion after having spent some time there when I was a bitter angry faggot, and having grown and moved on to more wholesome and less butthurt-driven forms of self-improvement.

Lets have a look at the subreddit and see what they have to say for themselves...

>Uncle Vasya’s Guide On Dating Models [TRP ENDORSED]
Because you can't get that sweet validation unless you're pedistalizing the women you're trying to date. Such tips in that thread include:
>-You will discover you no longer need reservations...anywhere.
i.e. use the fact that you're dating a model as the basis of your confidence, because her approval has validated you as a person.

Further down we have:
>Understanding woman: Part 9 – Vanity, Vindictive behaviour and Transgressions
8 rants weren't enough, this is part 9. Even the title is salty and obviously being written by someone who spent a decade in the friendzone. Remember you can't be redpilled unless you're a bitter angry little faggot who believes that 50% of the human race is irredemably shit, while still wanting to sleep with them and altering all of your behaviour towards that goal. But yeah, if you're a shitty person, you will attract shitty people, and shitty women, and this will be your experience of women and you'll end up writing posts adding yet another hand to the circlejerk

The rest of the subreddit is literred with MRA and anti-feminist bleating that would be good for starting threads on r9k and, while I agree that feminism is stupid, that still really has no place in a self-improvement context. Any good advice that you find here can be found elsewhere, without being encrusted with the dried salt of a thousand angry permavirgin tears.

That place is not good for your emotional wellbeing. I hope you move on soon.

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Um, can we shift focus from talking about books? These threads always turn into book recommendations. FUCK THAT.

What are you actively doing to change and improve beside reading materials you won't realistically apply (lets be honest, you geet excited, read a lot, then drop the topic 99% of the time)?

I'm interested in joining toastmasters to get over my fear of public speaking. Maybe it will help me fake being outgoing. Has anyone on /fit/ done toastmasters? What did you think? Is it worth?

>>38044286
Sleeping your 7-8 hours is pretty important, especially at the age of most fitizens.

Most based is getting your 7.5/8 hrs by hitting the hay early as you can and waking up with the sunrise (or before it if work is forcing you to do so).

>>38060012
Redpill has the general ideas down, but they're bitter about it, and they WILL turn you bitter. They will seriously make you antisocial autistic because you'll be paranoid of women, minorities, friends, and society in general.

Is illacertus a meme youtube channel for ADD faggots who can't read a book ?

>>38067361
sleeping 7-8 hours is important when you're a id still growing. Now that you're a fully developed adult, sleeping is less of a requirement.

You can easily go the rest of your life sleeping only 5-6 hours per night

>>38067452
id = kid*

>>38067357
Reading is useless if you don't apply what you learned. Like you can't read a book about painting and then suddenly know how to paint, you have to practice and incorporate the techniques you've learned.

I read Models, I found it helped me approach girls more, because it helped me identify when I was being a bitch and making excuses, or holding back because I couldn't think of anything to say. Now I just go up to them without thinking and say hi and introduce myself and see what happens. And it actually works... also no I don't look like Chris Pine, I look like Zach Galifianakis

>I'm interested in joining toastmasters to get over my fear of public speaking. Maybe it will help me fake being outgoing. Has anyone on /fit/ done toastmasters? What did you think? Is it worth?

You might as well be reading a book right now, because instead of trying the thing you want to try, you're here asking us, like we'd fucking know. You're getting a faint sense of accomplishment as you ask us this dumb question, but really you're just making excuses and wasting your time.

>>38067452
You should be getting 7-9 hours a night if you are under 25, and if you aren't you are cucking yourself.

>>38067472
7-9 hours

how do I know you're a sweaty fatty who hasn't cut his fingernails in a month?

>>38067472
Arnold said 6 is fine, you just have to sleep a little faster.

>>38067357
>What are you actively doing to change and improve
- learning guitar
- learning piano
- learning 2 languages at once (90% of my effords towards one of them)
- spending as much time around people as possible, i.e. last 3 days with my ex from the other city (and yes, I forced myself to do it just for social gains), hiking with her and talking 14 hours / day, 2 weeks ago 2 days with my close female friend I see every 3 years or so, she said I changed alot - no more "edgy asshole" vibe
- trying to get new contacts, actively creating situations (organising events such as campings, I'm going to give away my spare chilli seedlings tomorrow through adv on my local facebook group, some time ago I gave my spare pet worms)
- lifting, yes, it's kinda revolutionary on this board, but I lift
- running
- reading

I need a new area of interest, I've already explored all abandoned mines and caverns with people I meet through fb event (now my friends), my ex is into herbs and you can meet some interesting people this way - most of them are batshit crazy, but it's always like this. Maybe climbing, people always need another climber for belaying.

>>38067646
>learning 2 languages at once (90% of my effords towards one of them)
If one of those is Japanese, kys you weeb fuck.

Also go to your favourite torrent site and search for "Michel Thomas V3", best language courses I've ever used.

>>38067685
>If one of those is Japanese, kys you weeb fuck.

lol no, English and German. I need C2 English, then some languages to B1/B2. German, Spanish, Czech, Russian, should be breeze as I can speak them a little already.

I suppose there's no better course than Memrise, I can get it up to 100 words a day, but I will look at your suggestion, thank you.

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I posted this in another thread but :

>Sweaty fat NEET who hasn't clipped his nails or taken a shower in months
>Want to lose weight
>Even if i did i'd need surgery to remove moobs/excess skin
>Strech marks would probably never go away no matter how much COCONUT OIL i apply and i'd always look like a fucking inside out cunt no matter what
HELP PLEASE

>>38067756

http://weightloss.healthytreatment.org/skin.html

also, parts about weight loss, they are brilliant.

>>38050062
Use their own needs and desires as a tool to get them to do what you want. Internal motivation is greater than external.

>>38050062
Make them want to help you because it will help them too. Basically, making them see what's in it for them instead of just what's in it for you.

I just finished starship troopers by heinlein for the 11th time or so. Ive read it every year since I was seventeen and I still find wisdom in it. If you haven't, you should.

>>38067780

Frankly, none of those are going to be particularly effective for somebody losing a significant amount of weight.

This model of thought is similar to as if somebody were starving to death and you said well cells need B-vitamins so here take this B-vitamin supplement and you won't die.

New coat of paint for a car that's just been pulverized in an accident, etc.

>>38050375
I have ADHD, so routine is something I need in order to function. Otherwise I'm a dishelveled mess, leave things undone, then get anxious, depressed, and nonfunctional. I developed a lot of my strategies while unmedicated - being medicated just makes shit easier to get started and helps me feel rewarded.

Stringing things together is key. My routines don't make life monotonous. I still do fun shit - my routines enable me to get the stuff done I need to do, then allow me to relax.

Wake up, take my vyvanse, walk the dog. During the walk my meds start to kick in. I think about what I'm going to do today. Get back, grab a cup of coffee and use the notes app on my phone and start a checklist. I go by events (places I need to be), tasks (things I need to get done) and reminders (upcoming events and tasks that aren't urgent but need to be kept in mind).

After this I'm usually ready to go. I eat breakfast, clean up the house, do any chores that need to be done. If I'm going to the gym that day I'm out the door then, otherwise I usually have about 2 hours to myself before work starts. I get a head start and take a shower, wash up. Sometimes I read, browse the web, tend my garden, do anything that my homebrewing needs (sample, test, transfer, keg, etc.), or play vidya.

Likewise at night, when I get home, usually the only thing I have to do is put away the dishes from dinner, take out trash, etc. I pack my lunch if I have work and my gym bag if I'm going the next day.

That's the extent of my routine - bookends to my day. A lot of successful people do the same, I eliminate unnecessary choice and run on autopilot so that the rest of my day I'm charged up to make decisions and act.

>>38067394
Nope, all wrong

>>38067999
looking for excuses much? They can - and will - reduce your problem. Now you can either do it slowly (2-3 years) so your skin get in place, do it fast and get surgery later, or you can do nothing and die at the age of 40.

>>38056908
Lots of people, even here weirdly, are afraid of TRP. I was too, until I realized all the hate it gets is just FUD with a side of vague shaming mixed in.

>>38067997
I love robert heinlein too homie. I feel like everyone dismisses the old hard scifi because they think its beneath them or something. But i think there's a lot to learn there

>>38068059

Hint: not the guy you originally posting to.

And to re-iterate, it won't do much of anything.

Your lack of understanding of physiology is really your downfall.

In your last comment alone you've just displayed you don't understand how collagen cycling works in humans, and you've contradicted nearly all popular medical opinion which is based on evidence regarding realistic timeframes on skin elasticity.

In your defence at least you acknowledged the surgical option, which is the only option to deal with loose skin.

>>38067348
Some feel the rain, others just get wet. Not that anything in your post shows that you've been to TRP before today.

>That place is not good for your emotional wellbeing. I hope you move on soon.
>anime reaction pic

>>38068123
> you've contradicted nearly all popular medical opinion

yes, show me studies then - how much weight can you loss without saggy skin, and then studies on the same subject with collagen supplements. Guess there are none.

>>38068290

You're asking me to provide sources for things you're arguing for? What?

>>38068392
You said it's impossible to significally reduce saggy skin after weight loss, using collagen supplements and prolonging process up to 3 years. What you're saying is basically "you'll get the same flaps if you get your weight down in 3 months and 3 years, no matter if you use skin supplements or not", which is not true.

>>38068071
I don't think there's any fear, it's just kind of...distaste? I dunno, shit seems lame, if you have to alter your mindset that much for sex, you were probably a sack o shit to begin with.

>>38068421

So your logic is once the fibres have been destroyed .. and oral supplementation is going to reverse that.

Odd theory, again, car accident but it'll be right mate new coat of paint and it'll be brand new.

No.

3 years? If your skin hasn't recovered in 6 months then it's unlikely to ever recover. Collagen cycling occurs by weeks, not years.

You sound HEAVILY invested in this very odd/biologically unsound strategy.

I'm guessing you're currently very obese and in the process of losing weight yourself, and naturally you're feeling insecure about your future and potential loose skin.

Best advice is to start saving so once you've lost the weight you'll be able to afford some skin removal and contouring.

Best of luck.

>>38051453
Try being extra nice when ordering something

>>38060971
Can you please spell it out?

>>38068472
>once the fibres have been destroyed

but they aren't, at least not usually. They are destroyed during RAPID weight gain (i.e. pregnancy), but not otherwise. This is why you can literally triple your arm girth without stretch marks. And this is why ex-bodybuilders aren't covered with saggy skin.

Sure, if you are very fat and quite old (i.e. above 40), your saggy skin remains saggy. But for young people without very excessive weight (below 120 kg) who use collagen supplements, it IS possible to get the shit done without surgery.

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>>38067348
>No, this is my conclusion after having spent some time there when I was a bitter angry faggot, and having grown and moved on to more wholesome and less butthurt-driven forms of self-improvement.
So you are already biased and didn't listen to what they had to say, only for what you wanted hear.

The first thing they recommend for new beginners is bettering yourself, understand any psychological problems that you might have and fix them to become a better person, self-improvement and LIFTING is the very first thing that literally anyone over at TRP will tell you to do first. Then comes the part of acceptance of how the current world is, from economics to sexuality, the definition of what it means to be a man and so on. At no circumstances have I read any woman bashing or encouragement to feel anger towards women. They even name phases that some of the newbies that take The Red Pill feels, after all the anger is out, next comes acceptance and a way for you to deal with the cards you have been given.

I wasn't wrong when I called you a liar, it doesn't matter because you or someone else already skewed your point of view and your argument doesn't come from a logical well thought out analysis of what TRP is about.

>anti-feminist bleating that would be good for starting threads on r9k and, while I agree that feminism is stupid, that still really has no place in a self-improvement context.
Read again what you just said, slowly and realize how stupid it sounds.

>>38068155
Enough said.

>>38068595

>This is why you can literally triple your arm girth without stretch marks.

What the fuck are you talking about, jesus.

> And this is why ex-bodybuilders aren't covered with saggy skin.

See: Arnold Schwarzenegger

You're conflating stretch marks, i.e.rapid weight gain, with prolonged obesity which is related to elastin.

The point is your collagen supplements will do nothing appreciable to prevent or reverse loose skin.

You're perpetuating wives tales which half-truth biological science into luring gullible and desperate idiots into purchasing their products.

The only proven way to not get loose skin is to not gain excessive weight in the first place.

The only proven way to correct loose skin is via excision.

These are the facts, and they are not disputed.

>>38057873
>>38059738
You are literally acoustic if you think TRP is anything but helpful for the modern man

>>38068779
>The only proven way to correct loose skin is via excision


And egf and radiofrequency and needling

But granted those are for small amounts of laxity

Approaching 30 now, wish someone put a gun to my head and forced me to read the following books at 18.

1.) Starship troopers
2.) 5 rings
3.) IWTYTBR
4.) Millionaire next door
5.) Mastery by Robert green
6.) Outliers (with liberal pseudoscience censored out)
7.) Book of pook
8.) getting things done

Books I would kick my own 18 year old ass for if caught reading:

1.) Rich dad poor dad
2.) Guns germs steel
3.) the game
4.) anything Tucker Max
5.) pretentious crap in subjects that don't interest me, like physics, that make you sound like an insecure pseudo intellectual
6.) anything Tim Ferris
7.) speed reading books

>>38068455

This is ahere you are wrong.

One of the first things they tell you is not to change to have sex.

The most important thing in your lofe in you and your self development.

If you improve your life sex will follow, but its not the main focus.

You are the focus.


Many people here do not thoroughly read what TRP is trying to say and then start bashing it.

Also they dont hate women, they look at them for what they are and then tell you to put your focus on yourself NOT on women.

>>38067394

This ia completely false.

Try going through their sidebar, dont just skim it but thoroughly read it.

>>38069197
I'm currently 19. I'll give these a read. Cheers brah

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I start law school in August and have a huge back log of summer prep books so I don't go in like an idiot, but it's hard to find the time after work, gym, and finishing season 3 of bojack horseman... Oh wait I have time now.

>>38045068
Miguel?

>>38060330
I wasn't really that impressed with it. Found it pretty dry to read. Started reading it and found myself asking when are you actually going to get to the habits. I think the book could have put have the info/message across in about 1/3 of the pages used.

>>38069197
What's wrong with rich dad poor dad?

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My first 2 years of university I did jack shit and basically wasted my life due to continuing depression. But this summer I started therapy and some meds and I just finished a semester of summer school and got a B and an A-. An A- is the best grade in a chemistry course I've ever gotten in university. It isn't much in terms of helping my gpa because combined the courses were 3 credit hours, but I'm feeling kind of proud of myself. I got a good grade in one of the hardest chem courses I've taken.

I think I've also been able to break past the point of complete apathy. I feel like I actually want to go to school, like I want to learn, like I want to socialize, make friends, volunteer, join clubs, be a functioning human. I want to read, re-learn piano, get better at music production, get a better body and make progress in the gym.

I think if I continue this path I can end up where I want to be, lads. At this point, dental school looks like a long shot due to my shit gpa. Idk if it's still possible but I'm still going to try. I used to want to be a surgeon, but when I became depressed I lost all of my hope, yearning and motivation for that. But now I feel like I could do it. Maybe instead of dental school I could try for med school. I know it sounds stupid, to just decide "hey I want to go to med school" in your 3rd fucking year of university, but i feel like the dreams of the younger me are worth being fulfilled. I feel that if I just put in hard work, have faith, stay focused and just try my best then I'll get where I need to be.

I'm feeling more hopeful now than I ever have, lads. And I think that's the greatest part about all this.

We're all gonna make it.

>>38070394
good shit brah, keep it up.

one day a time, ok?

>>38070394

Keep it up breh we are all going to make it.

As you think you shall become.

>>38067488
>sleep a little faster
Life ain't The Sims nigga

It blows my mind how some idiots defend TRP.
I subscribed to TRP when the subreddit had around 15.000 users. I really liked it because you had some grown up man who had life experience and knew their shit giving advice and had no problem to discuss it.

I've read the best posts of the year last month and believe me it is a shithole. Even endorsed contributor write some conflicting articles and if you look at the post history of some users who are giving advice you'll see what a pathetic faggot gets most upvoted. Why should I listen to the advice of an idiot who was manipulated by a single mom two months prior?

There is no value in this sub except the sidebar. But the sidebar is just an accumulation of information that existed even before Reddit itself. Do not waste your time with this shit.

>>38043912
I'm reading the generation of 1914, good stuff, talks about this generational concept that at many timesms seems to admit is most likely nonsense, but still reading about what some young men though during the times of the 1WW is very interesting, I recommend it to all of fit

>>38043912
I really recommend 'Outwitting the Devil' by Napoleon Hill. A lot of his work gets over shadowed by Think and Grow Rich, but Outwitting the Devil is amazing.

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pic related is probably the most useful advice I've seen here and relevant to this thread. Never seen it reposted so here you go:

>>38072396
>untensing your anus

still don't know what the fuck this means

>>38069882
those just page numbers next to the books?

I'm currently in a state where everything I do must be productive, if I sleep in too late or I play games for a few hours I get annoyed at myself for wasting time which couldve been used more productively. feels good cause I'm always improving and have noticed a lot of change in myself lately but will I'm kinda concerned I won't be able to stop for the little things in life... I'm only 21
Anyone else feel like this?

>>38072747
Nope. Took a nice walk looking at the wage slaves and though. If I'm going to be a wage slave I'm not going to make as much as some neet. Sorry but no....

Nice and comfy with the neet bucks. Thank you democracy

>>38072747
sounds very similar to me in ways. 21, regularly sleep in, play vidya.

i just don't know what i want to do with my life now i've finished uni

>>38072807
Not necessarily for a career, anything but desu. Just general life skills I want to learn, recently started learning German, have borrowed a few law books of my housemate, just general shit I feel would improve me as a person

>>38072861
Tell me about it, coming up to my final year, fuck knows what I want to do in life

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lads , someone give a good book or material on becoming more self confident in life

>>38072980
Total recall, some truly inspiring shit

>>38068779
>The only proven way to not get loose skin is to not gain excessive weight in the first place

it's only because no one ever tried to prove any other way. Collagen supplements can - and will - affect elastin, studies on wrinkles show it. No one knows to what degree you can reduce your flappy skin with supplements, but saying they do jackshit is pure momscience.

>>38043912
>OP's pic
I don't understand this, is this really what it means to be likeable person?
For the past few years I've been acting very blunt with the people I talk to.
If they make a mistake I very plainly tell them they made a mistake
If someone is getting too personal in an argument I'll instantly call them out on it in an attempt to re balance the mood of the argument
I believe criticism and arguing maturely is the way forward.

I feel like the OP pic would make you more of a kiss ass to whoever you're arguing with instead of their leader.

>>38072747
>>38072861

Same here brehs, after sitting at home for 1 year soing nothing after fucking up my education I finnaly got off my ass and started doing something.

If I dont do anything productive it makes me feel like shit.

Its a good change I hope I can keep this up.

>>38073242
I'd rather be in that position than being a lazy fuck that doesn't want to live more than they wanna sleep, do they know how people can live like that

>>38073521
Makes fun of neets. His masters at his wage slave job do the exact same thing. So this is how slavery get perfected I see

Lol

>>38073534
Is this the same dude going on about 'wage slaves' from before? What've you got against people earning a steady figure? Some serious neckbearding going on here

>>38068694
>>38067348
>>38065588

TRP has a few good points such as not letting women be a main priority on your life, getting your shit together and how to act more masculine, have confidence in yourself, but don't be a cunt, and so on.

However, literally every philosophy can have this from Objectivism, Feminism, Communism, Fascism, so on and so forth. TRP is good for maybe a day or 2 where you get exposed to a new state of mind and incorporate it into your own view of the world. Outside of that, it is nothing more than ass blasted dudes upset they bent over backwards for sloot pussy. Hell, I can't think of a time I've seen a Red Pill video on YouTube and the person who made it wasn't some chubby, decent looking nerd with a half decent beard.

>>38073043
>If they make a mistake I very plainly tell them they made a mistake


And I'm sure they all love you for it

>>38073043
The book develops a bit on that and explains how to criticise tactfully. There a difference between telling someone " this is wrong, and you're a failure" and "this part is good, but do you think that part could use a little more work or modification?"

Then again it depends on the context and people. I'm no soldier or surgeon, but I suppose those guys want a straight to the point answer or critique, no room for diplomacy in those cases.
Personally I don't mind bluntness when it comes from Someone knowledgeable. Especially if they explain the mistake. But if your a dumbass who's wrong and blunt...

>>38072444
Trips of truth deserves an explanation

>>38072444
I think it means do reverse kegles, like you're trying to shit your pants. But don't actually shit your pants. That would be counterproductive to almost every social situation. Almost.

>>38072396
That was awful

>It's easy you just have to luck out hard enough

anyone use brain training apps?

I'm trying to figure out something more productive to do on my work breaks than surf the internet on my phone, and I typically need more than 15 minuets to get into a book and actually remember anything I just read.

>>38053455
I think i have it


volafile (dot) io slashrslasg QdHD9A

I've been attending the gym for a few months now and my gym recently switched it up and moved all the cardio/light weights upstairs and all the weighted machinery and barbells/plates downstairs. Since then I've been avoiding going to the gym until an hour before closing because the weighted area is p. much just dudes and it's very intimidating for me because I'm still an anxious pussy that worries that people are judging my form/lifts.
I finally sucked it up the other and went in in the afternoon and what the fuck, there was 3 dudes and one of them was in the corner hogging up two benches with dumbbells, doing 5x5 sets then sitting down on his mobile phone for 10+ minutes, one guy that was curling continuously in the squat rack and the last one was just stood in the multifunction trainer doing his triceps for about 30 minutes.

I'm the only one that actually squats and I'm a woman. What is this.

>>38075684
This is a shitty blog post and you're a boring bitch

>>38075459

Maybe learn a new language, in my work breaks I use Duolingo and Memrise to learn german.

Also it might sound stupid but you could put your phone away and socialise.

Social skills are the most important skills of all.

>>38075684
just unclench your anus in social situations

We need to organize a /SIG/ copy pasta and sticky to catalog the books that get suggested and any other useful info.

I recommend the 48 laws of power, I'm a kind hearted person but these laws are essential to grasp so that you can understand the operations of others and interpret their intentions. Like studying the enemy kind of stuff.

Just read the travellers gift after it being loaned to me by a mentor, really basic normie self improvement but an easy read if you're new to this genre.

Ben Franklin's dairy is one of my favorite books, his willpower, influence, and earnest care for his fellow man are all factors to emulate

>>38068576

How to win friends

>>38076536
>>38076536
Yeah Ben Franklin was the goat. The more I learn about him more I want to be like him

>>38075459
brain training apps and websites are a clever ruse that tricks you into believing you are getting smarter but in reality you are just getting better at playing a video game.

you could honestly get the same benefit from playing regular video games with similar formats.

for example: its strongly supported that individuals who frequently play FPS's are faster problem solvers, however their correctness is no different than those who don't play. Their reflexes were also faster on average.

>>38076536
http://4chanfit.wikia.com/wiki//sig/_sticky
for u anon

>>38073653
if you need someone else to tell you how you should be sorting your priorities you probably aren't a real adult yet. once you have real bills and actually need to work, everything else sort of falls into place. i quit after 6 years of functioning alcoholism without even knowing it because i had to pick up a second job and ended up working 75 hours a week and couldnt afford to drink or had the time. as for women, its way easier to approach them when you know youre a responsible human being that has a lot to offer. at this point i dont take most women my age seriously because they are too immature to take care of themselves, let alone be mature enough to handle a serious relationship.

tl;dr get your house in order before you start worrying about trying to bring in more members

>>38072980
you can't just become confident in yourself by reading some words or listening to some CD.

you need to be able to look in the fucking mirror and see someone you consider respectable. if you can't respect yourself, you need to figure out wtf you need to be doing better.

my advice would be to either find a job, find a better job, and/or work towards a real career. consider a 3-5 year plan.

if lack of motivation is your issue, then you have way more to work on probably starting with regular basic hygiene. typically i find anons on this board that aren't confident or motivated typically are early on in their lifts or haven't started. if you're a fat fuck, you need to start by getting out of bed at the same time every single morning. force yourself out of bed and start your routine. escape manchild mode. do your chores, laundry, cook for yourself. be a fucking person every day. not a fat sack of shit.

sorry im rambling, this wasn't totally directed at you, just anyone turning to this thread for motivation i guess.

>>38067394
You're thinking about the MensRights or MGTOW subreddits.

>>38076824
>tl;dr get your house in order before you start worrying about trying to bring in more members

Nigga, this is 1 of the basic essentials for living a happy life yet so many people are unable, maybe even incapable, of doing it.

Strange, isn't it?

>>38072444
I'm pretty sure it is solely metaphoric. Don't be so guarded when talking to new people. Let yourself be outgoing and hope for the best.

>>38076962
it is. it's actually really unattractive to me when girls can't support themselves fully. or when they make terrible life, career, or financial choices. it's like, that lack of insight or wisdom or whatever is just a clear indication of their lack of life experiences and therefore lack of adulthood. it's like when you hear your friend doesn't do their own laundry and you're like wtf?? and they're just like lol yeah whatever dude. and you just realize how far you are ahead of them even though it's such a seemingly meaningless task.

>>38077045
how do you get this from "untense your anus"?

he goes on to explain how it isn't metaphoric

>>38077110
What he means is being 'grounded'.
Stand with your feet slightly wider apart than is natural. This also avoids shifting your weight from leg to leg which signals in a nonverbal way your anxiety/nervousness.
Do breathing exercises and meditation. Elliott Hulse for example suggest breathing into your balls.

>Physically Strong. Mentally Sharp. Morally Straight.

>90% of being the Man is believing you are the fucking Man

>Nothing tastes as good as fucking bitches feels

>No man that rises before dawn 365 days a year fails to make his family rich

>If you feel like shit, everyone you hate wins

>>38077360

I have read that before, but I do not remember where.

>>38077360
>if you feel like shit everyone you hate wins

I actually live this like everyday because of some fucking Chad I absolutely despise and he hates me back. it's a total jealousy thing but I see through his bullshit and find him so utterly boring and unfunny. yet everyone thinks he's so amazing but it's all his looks. I know it. we have so many mutual friends and he basically hates me because I can see through him. my ultimate goal is to fuck his ex that broke his heart.

>>38077549

Your goal should be to improve yourself.

That faggot and his ex wont matter in 10 years but you wil.

>>38077598
yeah that's what I'm doing. but I wanna improve myself to the point I can fuck that bitch and snap it

>>38077543
>Physically Strong. Mentally Sharp. Morally Straight.
Part of the US Army Ranger Creed

>90% of being the Man is believing you are the fucking Man
Anon

>Nothing tastes as good as fucking bitches feels
Anon

>No man that rises before dawn 365 days a year fails to make his family rich
Chinese Proverb

>If you feel like shit, everyone you hate wins
Fight Club, not the movie. Book

>>38072396
What's that Nazi philosophy he's talking about?

>>38078390
If I remember correctly from that thread it was that the Nazis viewed themselves to be special and expected excellence from the German people because they were special. They held themselves to higher standards then other races and that is what made the the ubermensch.

Basically, instead of being anti-"them" the Nazis were extremely pro-"us".

>>38046438
>/fit/ dude who is into philosophy and science

What do you do? This is a combination you'd typically find in jail

>>38066723
>>38066757

I was in south china, during off season, and I felt safer than at home in the Netherlands. Hong Kong the same. Only thing is people only speak English in hostels. However, as long as you aren't broke, everybody is helpful.

Buy a Lonely Planet always and everywhere you go, it's great for those kind of situations.

Just finished How to Win Friends and a little confused on what to read next. Preparing for a job as a trainer, not socially inept but I could use some material to just be a little bit more socially confident with strangers. Anyone have a recommendation? I liked the book, but it seemed a bit like common sense. Some deeper stuff would be nice.

All you ever need to read is Models and any beginners guide to meditation/mindfulness

>>38078486
why?

>>38046383
cringe

>>38079218
I found The Definitive Book of Body Language by Alan and Barbera Pease to be helpful in developing my social skills.

Most communication is non-verbal, if you learn to be good at reading body language you'll be a lot more socially perceptive

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>>38079275
Dudes in jail are often driven to workout for obvious reasons, but many are also driven to the books because a) there's very little to do and b) they want to gain some insight about society and why they're in there and not someone else.

George Jackson, Edward Carr, Malcolm X and a number of other militants from that tradition were all radicalized in jail. Some people enter prison virtually illiterate and end up authors like Edward Bunker. I don't know how common it is, but it happens.

Meanwhile, the intersection between regular people who take interests in the humanities and people who are into fitness is virtually non-existing. So I'm curious about what may have driven you towards that.

>>38079392
Will read it, that sounds like a good one thank you senpai.

>>38072980
G E T

R I P P E D

then cry because autism still doesnt leave you

>>38071529
>the sidebar is just an accumulation of information that existed even before Reddit itself
a lot of how young men are raised in modern day to deal with women is very.. very wrong. look at all the garbage fed to them on tv, movies, media, and what their beta dads/bitchy ball busting moms fill their heads with. most of them will never find that information to begin with.

I'd say to anyone who ventures into there, just grab the information you need and then gtfo. the sidebar is good, and also the evo bio/psych information is very useful too (example: AF/BB dynamics, mating schedules, biologically driven reasons for infidelity, etc.). a lot of the blue pill examples or things like that you see IRL are explained well through that kind of lens. it's a good way to prevent getting your shit fucked up, but no need to stay around and have circlejerks with angry people.

>>38079392
Just started it and it's GREAT.

>>38049317
48 laws teaches you the methods required to get what you want. The methods are not immoral, they are truths. How you use them is up to you.

>>38068922
>literally acoustic

>>38061512
Because all twelve years old girls are so innocent, aren't they? Dolores is a whore.

>>38081463
>Being played by 12 year old whores

Truly pathetic

48 Laws and How to Win Friends are shit books that tell you what you want to read, when truth is way more disgusting.

Any book that teach you to be successful in a cold rational technical way, which is the only way, would be so boring or creepy no one would buy it.

>>38081553
You can't be successful in a cold technical way
Because you need other people to be successful and other people don't like robots

>>38081585
>Because you need other people to be successful and other people don't like robots
They like robots that look human.

High functioning sociopaths run the world exactly because of this. They make you empathetic to them (actually their false self), while they don't feel empathetic at all to you. So you feel compelled to act like them (herd behavior), while they don't feel compelled to act like you.

>>38081625
Isn't that basically what these books try to show you how to do tho
Show you the buttons and teach you easy ways to push them

>>38055585
i see your point and i suggest still reading the book so you know about the "laws" and can recognize them when others use them

>>38055585
>living a good life
>getting what you want
Isn't it the same?

>>38050479
>>>>/b/

"Law 6: Court Attention at all Cost

Everything is judged by its appearance; what is unseen counts for nothing. Never let yourself get lost in the crowd, then, or buried in oblivion. Stand out. Be conspicuous, at all cost. Make yourself a magnet of attention by appearing larger, more colorful, more mysterious, than the bland and timid masses."

This guy loves cocaine, for sure.

I want to learn a new language but i'd like to learn one that would help me in my field (agronomy / agriculture engineering)
I already speak english and portuguese. I'd like to work overseas preferably in a country that supports organic farming however it's almost impossible to learn a nordic language by myself since where i live don't have swedish/danish courses
Any suggestions?

>>38082070
O que está fazendo acordado a essa hora?

>>38082104
Minhas aulas só começam semana que vem. To lendo isso daqui ; http://thexlibrary.com/index.php/finish/14-new-age/718-robert-waggoner-lucid-dreaming-gateway-to-the-inner-self/0

E você?

>>38082121
Só no 4chan e ouvindo um som. Por que quer controlar seus sonhos?

>>38082104
fug português is such an ugly language. ashamed to call it a romance

>>38082210
Pra auto conhecimento. Ter acesso ao seu subconsciente.
Acha que alemão seria uma boa?
>>38082251
Portuguese can be beautiful but not modern portuguese

>>38082302
Sim, alemão é perfeito pela sua descrição.

>>38082346
Farei isso anão.
Uma pena que não tenha mais chans brs bons, talvez eu esteja desatualizado. Parei de usar o brchan em 2013-2014, na epóca que o 55ch ainda era útil. Agora tá tudo um caos.

>not posting the art of the deal

Does anyone have advice for getting the energy to do stuff after work?

I work 3 days a week (contract job, only 19) from 8:30am to 4:30pm. In the door around 5 for dinner and then i just watch tv or listen to music. I have all kinds of things I want to do like practicing my programming skills, or getting jacked, but I'm always so mentally exhausted.

Any advice? I've asked coworkers about it and they've just said stuff like "you'll grow into it" or "it gets easier when you're older". I work in an office, it isn't like I'm running out of breath all day, but I still get exhausted. I have 1 cup of coffee around 10am or so, I don't like having any more or I get jittery as a mother fucker.

>>38082585
Read "The Power of Habit". It's essentially about designing habits, which is almost like hacking your brain. Forming habits makes things non-conscious and require less effort and willpower.

>>38043912
Currently i'm reading :
Infantry Attacks by Rommel
Panzer leader by Heinz Guderian
Designing games by Tynan Sylvester

>>38082630
That would probably go well with me, I appreciate order and shit. Is it hard to read? I'm not exactly stupid, but my reading comprehension isn't great and long books or ones that are really verbose confuse me pretty badly.

Also do you think forming those habits will increase energy to do things spontaneously, that aren't necessarily part of your habits?
For instance, right now I've been telling friends im busy just cause I'm so mentally shot. I don't want to just be able to practice my programming and workout every night, i want to get to the point where I can do anything that gets thrown at me.

>>38082693

Are you sleeping and eating well.

Your diet has a huge influence on your day to day life.

Look to see if you are eating whole non processed foods.

Also cardio will increase your energy throughout the day.

>>38082585
>tfw public accountant working 80-100 hour weeks during busy season

Brah you just gotta sack up and do shit instead of just wasting time.

After working all day the last thing i want to do is anything that involves thinking, but i'm studying 4 hours a night to finish my CPA license.

I'd suggest doing all exercise in the morning, so that is one less thing to worry about at night. Also, start meditating if you are not already. After work it can really help clear your mind and I always feel somewhat rested after meditating.

Tbh idk how you are struggling working only 3 days a week, did you ever have an actual job before this?

>>38083445
>Did you ever have a job before this
No, throughout highschool I was in and out of the hospital and on and off medications, too sick to hold any job. I've been doing this one since February but only started getting paid in June. You would think I'd have adapted by now. In any case I'm done in a month and then I'm going to university

Major props for working the amount that you do. Any resources on how to meditate? I've tried in the past but wasn't really sure how to tell whether I was doing it right or not.

>>38083565
There is an app called Headspace which is really good for beginners, it has 10 free 10 minute guided meditations. I also like Tara Brach's podcasts; she is a spiritual retreat speaker. A lot of what she releases are just "talks" but i find her very calming, and every now and then she will release guided meditations. There is also a starting sit /fit/ inforgraph that has a lot of the basics.

And good luck at uni, after going through school and working a part time job, the 9-5 office life will be easy. Shoot for that 4.0 GPA, everyone you are in class with is your future competition in the job market.