can i get the real talk on nofap?

>>37644282
Quit fapping,quit porn,enjoy test boost and feeling less spergy.
It's that simple,just dedicate yourself to it.

>>37644282
28 days in and i feel like i have permanent blue balls, but other than that all the positive effects like boosted confidence and motivation are really showing. But seriously, the blue balls are bad, its like what i imagine period cramps to be like and i feel it in my fucking sides. I force myself awake every time I'm about to have a nocturnal emission so that 28 day load just keeps getting worse.

>>37644282
It's totally psychosomatic. But knock yourself out.

>>37644282
Just do it you faggot

>>37644406
how easy can you pop a stiffy?

Generally it doesn't do shit after something like 4 days. Try to just limit yourself to twice a week and cut out porn.

>>37644282
I meditate before sleeping daily and I don't think about sex during the day so my dreams are basically sexless. According to taoist teachings I have reached an advanced level as almost all practitioners lose their seed through nocturnal emissions in the first 100 days. The funny thing about all this is that the teachings say you that you will become highly attractive to women while retaining which I am definitely experiencing, I am getting eye fucked 24/7 and women are making moves on me constantly. The irony of it all.

>>37644303
>feeling less spergy.
Yeah what is the science behind this?

>>37645642
>Be so horny you force yourself to talk to females

>>37644282
I've been on nofap for the last four days because I hurt my nuts fapping too much.


I've been horny near 24/7 since day 3 and I've been a lot more productive. I also pop random boners and want to talk to every girl I see cause I want her to drain my nutsack.
I know what the rapefugees are talking about when they say "sexual emergency"

I've gone as far as two months, and this is what I've noticed:
>rock hard erections
>fuller erections, my dick actually looked bigger
>minor increase in confidence
>better lifts, but this may be totally psychosomatic
>more libido
>more flirting with girls, as I became a little more outgoing

Now I believe that going two whole months is pretty dumb. For that matter, going a whole month is dumb as well. The point is, don't beat off twice a day, seven days a week. That is abuse, basically wear and tear on your dingling. Seek balance. It is better to beat off twice or three times a week. Allow some time for your dick and balls recuperate. Im doing this, in my experience at least, I have been enjoying the benefits as described above.

I feel like the "benefits" of nofap are placebo. The so-called science behind it seems fishy

>do 90 day nofap
>about 2 weeks in libido is abysmal, feel depressed
>this goes on for 3 months
>feel depression start to subside
>decide to have a wank
>feels as good as when I was younger (currently 22)
>have way more confidence around the ladies
>make pleasant eye contact before I even realize it
don't do nofap OP, I want less competition

https://youtu.be/apc85Cp4lQQ?t=4m20s

Masturbation of young men has a severe negative connotation from both directions.
On the one hand from conservatives and prudes as vulgar, disgusting, distemperate, etc. In addition to giving youths more leverage and control over their sex lives and lives in general.
From the other side, the cult of machismo implies that you are incomplete and pathetic if you're unable to pair up with a woman and take care of your sexual urges that way.

So "nofap" is the result of a shit load of anecdotes, motivated thinking and confirmation bias that social conformity has benefits aside from social conformity.

it's no porn, not no fap.

you should fap at least once a month for health. but never look at porn. porn is what fucks up the reward system in your brain that makes it an addiction.

Use it or lose it bro. If you don't fap at least one a week what do you think happens to your balls? They stop giving a fuck and your test lowers.

>>37645916
>porn is what fucks up the reward system in your brain that makes it an addiction.

You could argue the same thing about the internet if you're one of those faggots who has like 50+ tabs open.

>NoFap

Worthless if you're going to replace it with dicking around online, the point is to make yourself busy with useful shit.

Also for what it's worth my erection quality improved when I quit porn.

>>37644282

There are various studies done with regards to no-fap.

The first is the infamous Chinese study, which shows a massive spike in testosterone after 7 days of abstinence, followed by a return to baseline. The lab rats were a few hundred Chinese men in their 30's - 40's. Some were married, the study reports that intercourse had no impact on this supposed testosterone spike.

Real talk, this study is bullshit and the data it presents is shoddy CCP propaganda.

The second that I've found had much more interesting results with a tremendous amount of data.

The US study had two groups - a control, and another cohort of men ages 20 and up who abstained from masturbation for 15 days. On the 15th day, both groups had their testosterone levels checked, both groups were given some pornos to jerk the gerkin, and then testosterone levels were re-checked.

The data shows that the men in the abstinent group had marginally higher levels of testosterone then the control group - something like 5%. Big fucking deal.

What's more interesting is that, after masturbating both groups experienced a drop in blood serum testosterone levels. However, the drop in the previously abstinent group was negligible while the control group's average testosterone plummeted by some 20%.

Regardless, both studies show that sex >> fapping and fapping occasionally >> fapping daily.

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No fap is idiotic placebo shit created by failures who ACTUALLY BELIEVE not masturbating is some kind of achievement.
Sure if you jerk off 6 times a day and then cant get fucking hard anymore then stop it retard

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>>37645955

>>37645955
>muh placeburr effect means it's not worth it

Fucking neck yourself.

>>37645937

A few final thoughts:

There have been no studies on extended periods without masturbation. It could give you prostate cancer, it could kill your testosterone/libido, it could turn you into Ronnie Coleman - we don't know.

The gains in testosterone from refraining are so minuscule that they cannot provide any competitive edge - unless of course there's some mechanism where after 60 or 90 or 1000 days without spunking your test shoots through the roof as some sort of primitive survival mechanism.

Fapping too often tanks your test and pornography is generally shit all around. Wait until you're blue-balled to bust your cock and balls out and use your imagination. Better yet, focus on the feeling and physical pleasure entirely for them orgasm gains.

Did it for a little while. Didn't really see any difference. Honestly I don't think there was anything wrong with me, I think the movement just makes you question yourself.

>>37645969
Go do nobreathe you sad delusional retard

What's the difference between no fap and no sex?

Shouldn't it be the same thing?

If you're doing no fap, then you shouldn't be having sex either

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Anyone else addicted to shitposting? I got in the shower and went to take out my phone because i needed to refresh for replies, but my phone wasnt there friends. It was on the toilet.

Memes penetrate my soul and the memes wont go away

>>37645955
>I've never tried this, but the idea of not being allowed to fap for a prolonged period of time frightens and upsets me, so I'm just going to bash the concept & those who do it.

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF. PAINFULLY. CUT YOUR BODY UP AND SMEAR SHIT ALL OVER THE WOUNDS.

LEAVE RAW CHICKEN OUT FOR 1 WEEKS AND THEN EAT IT.

YOU FUCKING MISERABLE FUCK

>>37644282
Does it count if my gf does it for me?

>>37644282
It doesn't fucking matter.

Because even if it DID raise test levels the difference wouldn't be significant enough to have a real noticeable anabolic effect.

The only time you start getting noticeable effects from testosterone is at SUPRAPHYSIOLOGICAL levels. So even if your test level went from 650 Dn/l total to 1000 (clinical high range) total t then it still wouldn't fucking matter. That's way bigger of a difference than no fap would raise anyway.

if you jack off a lot you probably naturally
Have high test because high test = high labido.

>>37645996
>dude it's just placebo lmao

You strike me as the same kind of autist who uses there being no free will as an excuse to be a lazy sack of shit.

You pathetic little worm. Fuck off to >>>/r9k/

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>>37646008

Honestly it helps me if I don't fap a few days before a large social engagement. If I don't look at porn and fap 3-4 days before I talk to a lot of people/go on a date, I'm always able to make conversation and my self confidence skyrockets. Even if it is a placebo, it's a damn good placebo that I'll stick to.

I heard a mma fighter talking about how your test actually peeks off and starts to slow down after two weeks. So his routine is to only blow once a week until ten days before his fight.

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4chan nofap discussions are the best

>>37645998

Completely different chemical cocktail cascade. Most importantly, sex with a real, live human releases oxytocin - natural heroin.

>>37645998
nofap is effortless

sex takes a varried amount of effort, in your dumbass case, a lot of effort

>>37645969
>le masturbating is the reason my life is shit XDDDD

Dumbass

>>37645955
>its a placebo effect
you mean it's psychological, no shit

>>37646049
traps are growing more powerful.. damn

>>37646109
>le placeburr effect means the benefits dont real XDDD

>>>/r9k/

You fucking waste of oxygen.

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>>37646024
>>37646008
Lmao how mad are you, little men. Wasn't your holy no fap regime supposed to get you calmer or something? Stop sperging out, fat bois. But whatever keep deluding yourself believing that not touching your pee pee will make you a better person LMAO

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>>37646146
>It's all the placebo effect

>>37646078
This. I'm a fucking junky for sex. The better your relationship with the girl it's like you grew the poppy plant and made it yourself with the purest intention of making you happier with a better version of what you see on the street. Hell even hugs release that shit when it's a really great girl. Great girls are rare but they're like pokemon. They're out there they just aren't always on the main path and you might have to raise a few before you figure out what you want out of it.

I need to fuck my gif like right now. It's been 5-6 weeks and I'm about to go fuckin g crazy. Porn legit doesn't make me cum hard enough.

don't fucking masturbate. use your reasoning. it's unnatural, it has zero benefits, which means it can only cause harm or at best do nothing. since we know cumming away valuable nutrients to no purpose can never be done by the body for free, we now know it's only harmful
>but it is natural
it's a learned behavior and found no where in nature. a perfectly functioning human male can go from cradle to the grave without cumming a single time and be in perfect health
>but monkeys
the only monkeys that masturbate are ones that are taught to by humans
>but nocturnal emissions
these only happen to people who think about sex throughout the day and at night before bed. it is not necessary to health, the body reabsorbs the unused cum in your ballsack without the need for "cleaning the pipes"
>but jacking off helps me sleep
so would drinking milk or going for a jog. just because something works for one particular thing doesn't mean it's not still harmful and there are better alternatives to use
>it relieves my stress
so would smoking or taking a walk or meditating. all, excepting smoking, are healthier alternatives with no downsides

the only reason you think it's necessary to jack off is because you are literally addicted from a youth spent watching porn and being misled

>>37646204
Post your physique. Lets see how you look :)

I unknowingly tried it while i was on zoloft lol, its absolute bullshit. You only think you're more confident, but in actuality, you're just thirsty, and it shows. I had more women when I masturbated regularly. In fact, I feel tired and irritable when I don't masturbate. It's like quitting smoking, but it only gets worse.

>>37646204
>it's unnatural
>found no where in nature
Pretty much all primates jerk off and/or suck their own dicks anon, I support nofap but saying that fapping is unnatural is just plain wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNvvxCRqfI

>>37646161
Nice meme, but it is. No matter how many fedoras you post

>>37646261
you expect us to take some drug addict serious?

>>37646263
already addressed in the post you didn't read. monkeys only jack off when they're taught by humans. I'd say nice try, but you couldn't even bother reading the whole post you replied to which literally addresses your point

>>37646266
>its a meme because i say so

Okay.

>>37646268
It's a prescription anti-depressant. My wife died. Not that you'd care.

>>37646292
>it's prescription drugs so it's different~~
get over it. do you think people live forever? you're just a weak man who looks for comfort in substances

>>37646278
They've observe monkeys fapping in the wild anon, do you really think some zoo keeper just decided to pull out his cock one day and teach the monkeys how to fap? Not to mention unless that zoo keeper was Ron Jeremy it doesn't explain how they learned to suck their own dicks

>>37646308
not true it's obvious you're talking out of your ass though

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>>37646216

>>37646328
Kek, how did they learn how to suck their own dicks then anon?

>>37646352
how do you expect me to know the origins of your fantasy scenarios?

>>37644303
Non broscience source please

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>>37646304
It's posts like these that convince me that nobody in nofap has any idea what they're talking about.

>>37646304
I don't even know I bother responding... but zoloft isn't a recreational substance. It has no risk of dependence. It only affects serotonin re-uptake, so you can function in the wake of your 26-year-old wife passing and leaving behind you and your 2-year-old son. But you're probably dating underage cheerleaders and drinking schnapps like the lonely and careless cock-sucker you are.

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Complete the meme, take cold showers.

About to take one, will report back.

Non-meme wise I guess it's good for the skin and hair or some shit.

>>37646372
spare me your justifications and your sob story you fucking druggy. you think you're the first person whose wife ever died? you don't think other people have gone through much worse without taking baby-blockers and readjusting their such and such-a-tonin levels with narcotics? you're a woman. I pity your son being raised by such a worthless, weak, piece of shit

>>37646018
>implying we don't fap mostly out of boredom or for emotional comfort

I don't know if it has anything to do with low testosterone levels, depression or just poor lifestyle choices, but I have a low drive and fapping just makes me feel even more passive and listless overall. Sure it feels good, but I feel so lonely and guilty afterwards it's (almost) not worth it.

I don't fuck with my gf as much as she'd like, because fapping to porn is just easier desu. It hurts to see her getting insecure and frustrated about it, and I think she's developed an eating disorder because she feels she isn't pretty enough. We've been together for years and I've given her permission to fuck other people, but so far she hasn't and is stubborn about not wanting to, which kind of makes me happy, but puts the pressure back on me to satisfy her. The worst feel is that she loves my dick and sucking me off, but I can't really feel it or cum normally because of all the abuse I put my dick through daily. Should I just do her a favor and break up with her?

To everyone being against the principle of nofap for no real reason: there's really nothing wrong with spending your time more productively and focusing on intimacy with people other than yourself. I'd do it if I wasn't such a loser. Just kill me now.

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>>37646395

>>37644282
Here's my take on it.

I fucking love sex. I also fucking love fapping. I'm a hedonist in general so I just like stimulation/pleasure. When I deprive myself of fapping, I have to pick up/meet women or I just get more frustrated.

When I'm frustrated, I'm a little more irritable but I'm also alpha as fuck for some reason. I don't take shit, I'm even funnier, etc. I also find that I get more attention from women when I'm on nofap. It could be pheremones, it could be placebo, it could actually be that my testosterone is higher. But we're all different and it seems to work for me.

After about a week, it gets so bad that I can't think straight. By week 2 I can function better in daily life as I'm not thinking about sex all the time. My lifts are the same as I'm not angry/frustrated any more. One thing that I don't like about it is that I don't get as hard if I don't do it for a while. I guess it's like blood hasn't circulated down there for a while lol.

And when I NoFap and come too quick when I pull a chick, just say "can you blame me? you're fucking hot" and go for another round. Problem solved. A lot of people are afraid of coming too quick after doing no fap. The point is at least you're coming at all since you're forced to pull women.

>>37646465
>PLUS, that day after you get your dick wet and you're walking down the street with your head up and in the best mood ever. Worth the fucking agony of NoFap

>>37646395
Whatever, pal. Life is all relative privation until something terrible happens to you personally. I hope it never does, you seem useless. God should spare you that.

>>37646372
Wait a minute, you were on zoloft because you were depressed about the death of your wife, then you did nofap, then you got thirsty around women? Wtf were you doing trying to fuck bitches if you were still grieving the death of your wife so much that you needed drugs to cope with daily life?

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no fap helps motivation

it's not a lot

if you're already an unmotivated directionless loser, don't expect a miracle

>>37644282
>orgasms cause a release of prolactin
>prolactin lowers dopamine and testosterone levels
>not orgasming lowers prolacting levels, therfore increasing dopamine and testosterone levels
It's basic physiology, >>37646018 is correct in that the boost in testosterone levels observed from nofap is unlikely to have any mental or physical effect, on the other hand significantly lowering prolactin levels and raising dopamine can have a pretty drastic effect on a persons' mental state, just ask those people who take dopamine agonists for restless leg syndrome and end up doing bizarre things like compulsively gambling and fucking random bitches

>>37646597
Jesus, lay off. You do know that sometimes people do irrational things when they're grieving, right? Not even that guy but I don't understand why you have it out for him so much. In the real world people fuck other people to cope with hurting over someone. Normal people do that, you know? Or maybe you don't.

>>37646526
you're just a weak piece of shit and retarded, especially now that you're tacking on acting like you're the only person a "tragedy" has ever befallen onto your justifying your drug use because you can't cope with reality

idk if there are any real benefits to it if you're not an adict but this this is what it's done for me
>get horny
>can't Jack off
>start hitting up girls for booty calls
>start making moves on chicks
it's not that it made me more confident as much as, since I can't Jack off I look for another way to release the tension

>>37646673
there is no tension you're a sex addict maybe try controlling yourself some time

>>37645726
I could be wrong but I don't think your dick looked any bigger, as much as maybe you stopped watching porn with the humungo dicks and maybe you felt satisfied with your dick

I do the once a week fap
I also never watch porn, just use my imagination

It did wonders for me, might not work for everyone

>>37646659
Quite the opposite, I've taken prescription drugs and hooked up with people to cope with grief so I know that doing things like that is the worst possible way to grieve

>>37646702
Noporn+once a week fap is definitely a good strategy but personally I didn't start getting the "superpowers" that people talk about (increased confidence, increased aggression, deeper voice, more grills mirin me) until I broke the 3 week point and it just kept getting stronger over the next three months

>>37646789
all the "superpowers" are placebo you mongoloid

>>37646799
when it's a consistent effect like that in such a huge pool of people who do nofap that experience the same exact things, it's no longer a PLACEBO effect and it becomes just an EFFECT

you massive turd

>tfw 24 year old kissless permavirgin
>literally did not start masturbating until about a month ago (yes, i had never masturbated before in my life, just had wet dreams)
>an emaciated twig who is probably low testosterone
>never talk to anyone let alone girls

>tfw i did the ultimate no-fap and it did nothing

>>37646810
>when it's a consistent effect like that in such a huge pool of people

i'm sure your idea of a successful business is unwittingly joining a pyramid scheme

>>37646810
>people hear that no-fap gives you "superpowers"
>therefore they say "hey i want those superpowers i wont masturbate!"
>proceed to talk to more girls or whatever because "hey, i'm doing no-fap, i better talk to more girls! hey look its working!"
>think that this means it works

that's the definition of a placebo effect

but then again, if you're such a mongoloid that you think not masturbating will give you a deeper voice and make girls look at you more, you probably don't even know what placebo means

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Nothing wrong with a placebo

>>37646826
poor analogy. you're retarded

>>37646847
except there is an undeniable physical and psychological effect and the fact you keep repeating the same words makes it too obvious that you're not actually serious and are just here to cause a rift

>>37646799
My regular talking voice literally became almost a full octave deeper, I couldn't even sing notes that deep before nofap, that's not a placebo anon

>>37646894
hahaha holy shit that's hilarious

>>37646887
please, explain to me how allowing semen to back up in your system gives you superpowers.

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still don't get how people discredit or hate on nofap

you don't see any worth in it, okay bro we get it-- but then they take it a step further and start to attack those who do it, and cite shit like they have scientific studies on the topic... you don't have shit; you're just talking out of your ass.

Truth is we don't have any extensive/peer reviewed scientific studies to go by, all we have is a gigantic community of people who are constantly saying what amazing benefits going nofap and noporn gave them

YOU DON'T WANT TO DO NOFAP, okay-- for whatever reason you don't think you need a boost or that it will provide you with the needed boost... but stay the FUCK out of our threads man.

emasculated faggots, that's all you are

here's where to go to get all the info you need

https://www.reddit.com/r/nofap

>>37646935
>calls guys who no nofap emasculated
>you are literally depriving yourself of masturbating in order to be able to talk to girls

you guys are seriously beyond help.

>>37646913
you're sitting here denying physiological facts as well as every personal experience and calling them "hilarious" while at the same time calling the positive effects "super powers" in an attempt at disparaging people. everything about you is dishonest, I don't know anyone who would take you as someone seriously here to learn and not just a troll making an ass out of himself

>>37644282
unhealthy to no fap longer than a month

that "boost" you keep seeing is a fucking meme

you only need at the very least 5 days nofap to get the benefits and no it isn't a fucking video game the longer you go it doesn't fucking stack

this shit has been posted since the dawn of /fit/ nofap has benefits but it won't build you a tower of a body in a week

>>37646960
this is wrong, I haven't fapped in 7 years and I can overhead press over three thousand pounds.

>>37646950
i did not say that there are not positive effects that can result from not masturbating, specifically having more confidence and being more social, this i can imagine.

i am saying that it is not specifically the act of withholding yourself from masturbating that is changing your personality a bit, but in fact it is that you hear all about what "no-fapping" does, and therefore you go out and actively do these things to subconsciously prove the "no-fap mantra" correct , then come back and say that it is no-fapping that did it, when in fact it was you yoursrlf who did it

maybe "placebo effect" was the wrong term to use. more like a self-fulfilling prophecy. and of course it isnt a bad thing if no-fapping changes your personality for the better. it just isn't the act of letting your semen build up in itself that is doing it

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>>37646976
and I've nofapped a personal record 5 months yet only gave me a reason to stay up at night longer

>>37646992
funny how you only mentioned the superficial benefits and none of the tangible physical and psychological ones. you're not serious, you're just here to meme and disrupt enjoy your shitposting career

>>37646401
Do you feel this way towards her or women in general?

You sound like you are exhibiting symptoms of low test. Have you been to the doc?

Do you suffer from depression and/or take medication?

If you love her for her personality, enjoy being with her, and genuinely plan to marry her then I would continue the relationship.

If you see no future it's only a waste of time.

Being with someone to just be with someone is torture for both people.

>>37644282
You can do it Anon, my goal is 12 months.
I'm in the 11 btw

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I gotta start tomorrow, I feel like I my life revolves around my penis.

>>37646935
I've always assumed that all the guys who hate nofap are guys who tried it, found out how hard it is and now have intense sour grapes for the people who have the willpower to do nofap

>>37646992
I know the placebo effect is very fucking strong but I'm pretty sure it's not strong enough to make someone's voice an octave deeper, that represents a genuine physiological change

>>37646697
nah, I had the same experience after not fapping for four weeks.
dick just gets real solid and rock hard, which makes it bigger, at least half an inch increase

>>37645634
You are officially the biggest autist on /fit/

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>>37644282
make sure you guys take zinc to feel like a sex god.

reminder there's no benefits of fapping while theres many benefits (even with a placebo) of no fap

What's the deal with us non autistic Bros on here who have girlfriends? She already puts up with enough of my weird fitness shit. If I tell her I don't want to fuck daily anymore to boost my test gains cause some kids on a Tongan coconut discussion forum told me to it might just push her over the edge.

Curious, does fap/nofap have any effect on girls, like increase in some hormones, things like that like for guys? I draw rule 34 and sometimes I can't help but rub it.

>>37648801
Just get Jamal to do it for you.

>>37648881
voyeur vids of you rubbing it out helps.

>>37644282
Sexual energy's precious, whenever you bust you're giving life to something. And if you don't know what that is, your will's being used against you plain 'n' simple.

Get control over that shit.

>>37645996
Do 'breathe consciously and deeply through your diaphragm' then come back to this whole nofap idea. ;-)

Tonight will be my last fap

>>37645999

This desu senpai

I stopped masturbating 4 days ago, I don't feel the urge to do anymore.

The shame of getting caught masturbating in the gym allowed me to reasses how it's bad for me

>>37646395
hot-cold empathy gap, the post

>>37644282
It's placebo.

>>37649155

You're not that dude who got caught on camera in the empty gym, are you?

>>37649308
gym wasn't empty

>>37644282
It's nothing. I gave up fapping for 101 days ten years ago when I was at the height of puberty and there were literally no positive or negative effects and after the 101 days I felt no different than I did before or during the experiment. It was no different, I just had some extra minutes everyday and I was worse at chatting up girls.

Give it up if you want, you might get some placebo shit off of it or something, I dunno.

/r/NoFap/comments/4p8kc9/im_a_disgusting_degenerate_and_i_masturbate_to/

This is why you need to lay off the porn. As for myself it gave me fetishes I do not want such as bdsm.

noticed my dick looked a lot healther, like my bellend looked smoother and that

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>everyone goes on an on about how hard no fap is
>everyone says it makes them horny all the time

My sex drive goes down. The further away I am from my last fap the easier it is to completely forget about it. After the first 2 days it is trivially easy.

Am I low test or something?

Nofap is full of delusional halfwits.

I started nofap for my own reasons entirely unrelated to that place, and it's going pretty well. I do admit things in life have been going a lot better, but its not because of nofap, it's because you essentially are choosing to make large changes in general at the time.

Not masturbating is actually detrimental in some ways, it's healthy and you shouldn't be ashamed of it. However, porn is toxic and it really does change your view on the world and steals something from you (morality and will power). The idea is to REDUCE your porn intake and REDUCE how much you masturbate. All in all it's just easier to rid yourself of porn and try masturbating without it, it's really, really hard to say no though.

My benefits from masturbating and no porn:
I am able to cum without porn, my imagination is back.
I am aware of what Im doing when I go to seek it and am able to close out of things.
I am able to see exactly how it's affected my life, decisions and opinions.

I also tested myself with porn a week ago, Ive been off it pretty much for about 200 days. You know what happened? That shit was like a massive rush, I almost came by simply viewing something for 20 seconds. I felt sick, dizzy, out of breath and in a trance. It felt amazing and scary at the same time, remember when you first got into porn? That rush? That risky behaviour you'd have to just get a fix of it? It came back, but I chose to stop viewing it. I realize first hand exactly how it becomes addictive and just how much it desensitizes you. You even make sexual attachments to the practice and comfort of a PC screen etc. It messes with you.

But never, ever, EVER allow anyone to convince you that masturbation is bad.

The stronger erections etc stuff is a given, you're horny, what do you expect? But being horny can often add a lot to stress.

>>37650313
It's common to have a flatline. It will go away.

Placebo or not it works for me, its becoming a habit for me to not wank anymore than 1 per week

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>>37644282
I did it and I couldn't get hard for my gf
Started falling again and now i can go 3 times in a row.

I guess it's different for everyone

>>37650316
Also, sleeping around with many women isn't really an improvement. A lot of people use this as some sort of justification like "oh I sleep with REAL women now". Yes, yes great for you - but have you actually tried getting an emotional attachment sorted? Sleeping around is essentially just as bad, and in some cases worse than using porn.

Anyway that wasn't really the main point to this post. I forgot something earlier, which is that the rush I felt when viewing porn after so long... I never once felt that way in the 16 years I've had porn in my life except for the first few months or so. It used to be so easy to jerk off to the same crap again and again, but eventually it turned into hours, and creepier shit.

Try not to feel bad about being afflicted by porn either, we grew up in a generation who didn't know what effects it would have. We were all innocent people, you just have to understand you're just a human. But if I, a chronic porn user and chronic masturbator can do it - you all can.

>>37648881
See>>37646657, nofap for girls (noschlick? nofinger?) will give most of the benefits men see like increased focus and better confidence. Excessive masturbation can cause deathgrip syndrome in men which can make it difficult to stay hard or orgasm during sex so theoretically not fapping as a grill could make it easier for you to orgasm during sex, especially if you have trouble orgasming without rubbing your clit

>>37649102
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Your goal at first should be to go as long as possible, not quit forever, try going a week without fapping, then a month, then three months, then a year, once you get to that point you might realistically be able to quit fapping permanently

>>37650316
Masturbation is absolutely detrimental, it's an activity where you lose everything and gain nothing in return. And the worst part is that you probably already know this, but you refuse to acknowledge it.

>>37651032
so is posting on this board, playing any game, watching any movie, so your argument is invalid.

>>37651408
Playing (video) games and watching movies is indeed detrimental, no doubt about that, but they're in no way comparable to a discussion about things that actually matter (like random people's masturbation habits). The difference is that the latter could actually benefit you if you pay heed to what's being said.

>>37644406
This happens to me after about a week. I can actually feel the coiled tubes in and around my balls and they are swollen. Lying down helps and its usually fine in the morning but gets worse as the day goes on. When I was younger I could go months without any pain.

>>37650400
What a fat bitch, shit's nasty bro.

>>37646008
Not him but replace nofap was an enema and enemas didn't have any scientifically proven benefits and read your green text in that frame of mind. When you've finished I have a noose and child step ladder waiting for your mongoloid ass.

>>37650313
>low test

>>37651545
How tf are they not comparable. Your argument is that you get nothing from wanking (which is wrong you get pleasure and health benefits) and his rebuttal was there are things that people do in which they don't get tangible/applicable results from but still do it for fun. It's completely comparable, and you're trying to justify it by saying "it's diff because you can benefit from paying attention."
t. triggered autist reading a 6th grader's lvl of reasoning