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/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.

>Squats on Squats on Squats edition

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam (embed)
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk (embed)
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists

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>>34891947
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>>34921564

first
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>>34921564

aye he didint do that retarded kinda bad ass throw overhead squat thing.
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>>34921670
is this youtube
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>>34921564

Holy crap they're short.
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im a tall guy and squat with a wide stance. When I clean I tend to catch the bar with a wide stance. Is this a problem?
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/mrg/ Mattie Rogers General
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opinions on the new romaleos?
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>>34922076
just a new colourway. nothing new about it desu. would cop both
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>>34922076
More like new tomatoes amirite?
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>>34921925
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>>34921564
dings' body is so proportional, I wonder what accesory he does
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>>34922194
?
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>>34923997
durkz?
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>>34923997

pent?
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>>34922076
Top one viable if you're Ukrainan
Bottom one if you come from Oblivion and like torturing humans
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>>34921564
> that fucking mongol bear in the background
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Sry but I ask here because owg is in general where the knowledge is:
(actually did wl until I fucked up, so semi related)

I dont know shit about nutrition and I have come to ask thee for advice:
>am 6'2 105kg
>semi built
>currently doing modified PPL with rehab shit

I want to lose fat from my last bulk. Currently at around 20% bf. I dont really count anything except protein and total kcal intake.

I have heard lowering carbs is the easiest / most efficient way to go about losing some fat.
Can I still do volume training for size?
Do I replace carbs with fats? Nuts, avocado, shit like that? Already halved last weeks portion size of rice and pasta by half. Feels like I could do alot more.

thx in advance
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>>34924350

calculate tdee subtract 300 - 500 and lower slowly
0.8-1g protien per kg
6-10 g carbs per kg
rest is for healthy fats

I would lower the volume, but progress slowly.
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>>34924350

how did you hurt yourself?
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>>34924350
>in general where the knowledge is:

stop believing this bullshit and you'll actually get somewhere

lmao
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>>34924400

plg and owg have the most well reticulated posters.
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>>34924350
Low carb diets are very effective for losing fat as a starting point if you don't care about muscle. Do it with muscle and you won't have the energy to push or pull the same weights and thus lose more than necessary muscle in the process.

Keep your carbs proportionate, eat less, maintain your strength or try to increase it, and you'll lose your fat
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHvu_hC9rg

dayumm
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>>34921564
Does anybody in these threads put up any impressive weight? Anyone hold any records or are close to? Does anyone here compete in anything?
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>>34924516
I used to compete in math competitions, and am starting to compete on topcoder
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Solid last heavy day before next week's meet.

Snatch - (100/1)2, (105/1)2, 110

C+J - (120/1)2, (125/1)2, 130. Overpulled the shit outta 135 and lost it forwards, had that delicious Eleiko knurling scrape the skin off my forearm from wrist to elbow, so I left it there.

Squat - 145/3, 155/3, 166 for 1kg post injury PR

Clean Deadlift - 160, 170, 180, 190 singles for a strapless PR.

Current competition bests are 105/130. Was thinking about 106/111/115 and 127/132/137 as my attempts.

Bodyweight currently a mere 87kg rip.

end blog
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>>34924516
yeah i weigh 150kg

is that imperssive?
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>>34924981
Much want.
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>>34921564
Whats the YouTube link to this webm?
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>>34925089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT_ouFTFOeY
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>>34924981
why are they walking like fucking retards
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I'm in the market for a new pair of knee wraps. Currently on a tight budget, but was wondering if I could get the most for my money. My old pair is starting to reach the end of its life span.
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>>34922076
is it worth buying shoes like this for squats/deadlifts?

I usually go barefoot for diddly and running shoes for squats.
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>>34925384
Yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j29Wlp5a7Qg
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>>34924550
Go for 113 on snatch and maybe go higher on c and j
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Anyone know of the highest all time snatches, cleans, jerks, and clean & jerks, regardless if its official or gym or rumored and regardless of bw.
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>>34925839
Umm 266 and 217
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>>34925839
>>34925888
Anatoly Pisarenko had around a 260-270 c&j and cleaned 280, and someone achieved a full snatch of 220 but I can't remember who.
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>>34925901
Lapikovs 217 is pretty impressive considering he's not very heavy.
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How does an athlete manage to stay undiscovered for the majority of his career in terms of roids? Liao Hui got dqed once for boldenone iirc, but Lu hasn't been dqed. What's the difference between the two?
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Why do all weightlifters workout shirtless? never understood that
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>>34925970
I think undiscovered may have been the wrong word.
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>>34925980
Explain please. I know nothing about roids, I'll admit that but what I don't understand is how do some athletes pass as fake natties when they're all on the same chemicals.
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>>34925901
Lovchev did 220 off the blocks, its the heaviest I have heard of.
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>>34925979
They don't
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>>34924981

>houston texas?
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>>34926276
>meme arrows?
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>>34925439
are you suppose to deadlift in lifting shoes? i thought you dont.
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>>34926288

>cool arrows<
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>>34926312

No you don't deadlift in weightlifting shoes. Generally want a flat heel.
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>>34924408
reticulated?

Anyways, I think owg, plg, and fraud tend to be pretty knowledgeable in those generals.
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>>34921564
I've been doing some reading on weightlifting and people suggest to do 'volume work' on my squat, what does this mean?

Thanks in advance
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>>34925130

probably just got off a plane or bus or both, only the last couple. Walking like they have pins and needles or wedgies or something
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>>34924546
>>34924568
So does that mean no? It seems like there is a lot of hatred towards plg in /fit/'s oly scene, but I don't see any trips or anons posting webms of anything impressive.. Just a bunch of Chinese and Russian pros training. Does anybody here do anything impressive?
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>>34927478
Why do you think you're white arab boy
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>>34927532

because I'm not arab?
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>>34927534
>Not from America or western Europe
> white
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>>34927559

>from NZ
>not white
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>>34927593
You're a kangaroo m8
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>>34927600
you mean kiwi?
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>>34921564
How do career weightlifters make a living especially in countries like Aus or the US?
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>>34927627

>career weightlifters
>in aussie
there are virtually none

in the US they probably hold down day jobs, just going off powerlifting as an example I think Eric Lilliebridge is an accountant
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>>34927663
no one in australia makes money off weightlifting. i know one girl in my gym that went to the olympics representing australia while working as a engineer.
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>>34927663
>>34927682
Just thinking, it is possible to hold a job and train for the olympics?

I know Erkand Qerimaj of the Albanian team was studying law and public administration while training and competing, don't know if he works.
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>>34927682

yeah that was what I was saying, there's nobody whose 'career' is weightlifting

that's cool though, I'm jelly
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>>34927711
I was reading about Russia and literally Klokov was saying that make good money but have all their expenses covered.

> tfw not russian but australian
fuck this gay earth
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>>34927709
you probably can but you won't be at your best when it's time to cmpete

i know several people who has competed in B group in world champs while working part time while training full time
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>>34927740
Does Australia or America pay their athletes anything at all for training?
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>>34927733

well your quality of life is higher considering that you wouldn't have made it as a weightlifter in russia (in all probability) so count your blessings. Guys like Klokov and Polovnikov are one in a million
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>>34927759
america they have MDUSA which is the only company i know that gives stipends to their athletes

USAW gives stipends as well but you have to be already top dog to get those

you can get sponsorship from different companies they pay a little and gives you free stuff if you're popular enough on social media
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>>34925979
only when the camera is rolling
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>>34927759

Australia pays some of its athletes a stipend indirectly (its the national body paying them, not the government) and/or gives free access to training facilities, coaching and such. How much depends on the sport.

Weightlifting is not one of the sports under the main program.
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Can i get a 188 kg front squat without juice?
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>>34928373

Its possible.

Depending on height/weight/etc. Certainly won't be easy though.
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>>34928381

94, 5'11?,Currently on 125kg
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>>34928715

Probably doable, although you'd likely be at 105 or so when you achieve it. Individual genetics matter of course.
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>>34922076
Going to be hard to top Romaleos II

They're pretty good
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Is it normal to ask strangers to spot you? I'm going to be joining a gym for the first time soon, and I'm not sure how this really works. Should you always have a spotter or is it just when you're going for your max?

I read the sticky, but forgive me if I missed it.
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>>34928373
At 94 or 105 you should be able to front squat at least 2-2.5x body weight or more naturally, once you start getting past 3 or close to 4 unless you're like a midget with stumpy legs it'll be hard naturally.
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>>34928753
Those are romaleos ii, just new colors.
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>>34928771

I feel so weak.
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>>34927524
Ya we have Smythphil who does 145/170
There's a few people here who snatch 120+ and I think some lotus guy with a 200kg front squat.... I back squatted 220 which I think is pretty good but I don't know how it holds up in plg
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>>34928373
94kg here and front squatted 181 easily naturally. I'd imagine 250 is close to the natural limit for a 94
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>>34924381
>>34924418
so basically calc tdee, eat at deficit, keep some carbs to be able to lift? thx brehs

>>34924389
by neglecting "core" and by not having a coach
also work related

>>34924400
lurked and posted in owg regularly the last 2 years or so, if you believe the rest of the board maintains the same general level of info you are deluded. we still have our shitty moments, same as plg tho and I'm the first to admit it. in fact, last couple of months have been shit in general and the reason I no longer lurk on a daily basis.
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>>34929086
source plz
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>>34928715
>squats less than our oly twink despite 25kg bw diffrence
How do you feel lad
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>>34929086
Fucking Tyson
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My bf told me I have a tight ass, how to stretch it?
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>>34925130
thats how they are tought to walk in north korea
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morning waifu post senpaitachi
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>>34927682
>i know one girl in my gym that went to the olympics representing australia while working as a engineer.
this is more sad than anything. but what a fucking accomplishment
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>>34930543

I feel bad for stareing

>>34929393
is k ill surpass you all one day
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>>34929468

With this
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>>34921564
>the crossfit moms who've been lifting for the first time can clean and jerk with better form than me
>see coach twice a weak, they've gotten lazy as fuck
>it's been 3 months and I can't even snatch or clean and jerk correctly

I feel like quitting everything but I
Bought these fucking shoes. Fucking hopeless
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i havent squat over a year now, just tested where i am and i squat 100kg for 3

My old max was 130 for 3, how long do you guys think it will take me to get back here with squatting 3 times a week
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>>34931139
3 weeks
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>>34931151
You srs?
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>>34931125
Maybe don't hang out with crossfitters. You can't expect to get good form with cross fit coaches. Also, practice makes perfect. Drills, do drill, every day, until you're so sick of them you want to puke.

And yeah, crossfitters have shit form, so don't expect progress if you hang with them. You'll have better luck having a random person at the gym film you and then watching to see what's wrong.
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>>34927269
Moderate intensity, moderate volume of work. The bread and butter of strength training. 20-30 total reps with ~70-80% of your 1rm is a solid day of work.
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>>34931191
Hey dumbass, if I could go to a strictly oly gym I would. My coach only does barbell club, but if I could have another oly coach I would.

I have to go to the crossfit gym. And I'm saying, people like crossfit moms(yes they have shit form) have better form than me. What also makes me upset is that there are brain dead morons who pick it up fatale than me.
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>>34927524
Higher proportion here have probably competed desu. Not saying good, the common consensus is compete asap in wl even if you're hitting tiny numbers, dunno how pl works in that regard.
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Guys, i've been trying to get into a bit of OWG, so I tried doing some power cleans. Am i gonna snap something if i don't drop the weight after I press it ? We don't have bumper plates in our gym unfortunately.
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>>34930543
that was the one with the ugly form right?
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>>34927682
is this the girl?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6eOeh01HwM
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>>34931634
Ok, I found my answer, in like 5 secs on google, thanks me, i!m a faggot. For anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_drttm5r66A
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>>34927663
>>34927627
>>34927711
Lifters in USA who are good will live off it. Not a good living. But take for example the world team at the OTC. Free food. Free accommodation. Then there's teams like mdusa who pay their lifters from a private backer.

It's a shitty wage, and they will all coach/seminars to suppliment. It's very unlikely any are holding down full time jobs while training at that level though.

In the UK at team GB, the men have 0 funding now from sport UK who fund athletes. The women do, and its purely because the women are legit medal hopefuls on the European/commonwealth stage and possible A groupers in world's and Olympics. That's why most the male team GB will be coaching as a job whereas most of the girls don't need to. It's not a good wage though for the girls.

Most athletes in all sports that dont have much of a 'salary' do get perks like free suppliments', clothing, food, sometimes even cars etc. My friend knows an Olympic gold medalist rower who when he was competing got paid very little but had a BMW, rolex, flights etc all free. He makes way more money now he's retired doing after dinner speeches.

Hope someone found that wall of text interesting :^)
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Whats the best way to get better at pulls? I noticed my pull strength really started to decline.
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this qt3.14 left her friends and family to lift at the OTC. livin it desu senpaitachi
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>>34932217
I'm gonna leave my family and friends to live with her at the OTC
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>>34929393
guess ur refrencing me?

and my FS is only at around 115, havent maxed FS in a while tho
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>>34931260
>>34931125
record form, send here
we'll gladdly tear it apart and tell u what ur doing wrong
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>>34932372
Maybe you're an Olympic hopeful in the making
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>144 BS (estimation off of 3rm/6rm)
>should have 89/111
>have 77/102

tfw shit ratios
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>>34932392
lol no
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>>34932392
probably not
>>34932412
tru senpai
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is habbening!
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>>34921564
So /OWG/, what's your typical day of strength training look like?
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>>34932688
Come in
Spend 1hour trying to get the right tech
Do only 20reps because I don't know how to get under the bar correctly in clean or snatch
Leave
Repeat for 3 months while 48 ur old crossfit moms blow me
Out of the water
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>>34932688
show up
change into gym clothes
warm up for 5-10 min
start main exercise, usually a snatch variation
do second exercise, usually a cj variation
third exercise, usually a pull or squat variation
debate on whether or not i should do accesorry stuff
go home
drink protein shake
cry
:^)
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>>34932713
That sounds hot

They take turns blowing you? Why water u like swim?
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>>34932778
>warm up for 5-10 min

Did you start working yet?

I envy those young kids I train with that just goes to school, they don't even need real warmup just start with the bar

I have to do like 30 mins of real warm up to get loose enough to lift properly because of work
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>>34932803
yeah ive had like 3 shifts so far.
usually my warm up is like stretching out my hips so i can squat properlly w/o discomfort
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>>34932778

Test will do that
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>>34932850
test will do what?
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Ok so started today. Coach has given me no routine just yet and basically I'm just doing drills for technique until I get in a few months.

I can go 3-5x a week, do you recommend any routines I can do that will maybe prepare me for oly a lot more? Some thing squat focused and back? And something for a little size?

Gym has dbs up to 50kg, Machines and barbell.
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>>34932169
Bump.
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>>34932968
3x5-3x5 squat 2-3 days a week
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>>34932968
Squats, squats, and more squats. But make sure you deload every once in a while. Don't overdo it
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Pretty large lump on my neck after squats every time, kind of on the second vertebrae from the base of neck. It's not painful and is just soft, this normal?
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>>34933002
Yes. Mine is discolored as well
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>>34924478
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>>34932401
Have 170 backsquat 1 rm
Should have 105 snatch/131 C&j for a 236 total
>Currently have 75 and 100 for a 105 total :(
Oh well starting month 4 of oly training :)
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>>34933262
Ya join the club. 220 back squat.... 115 snatch and my form isn't even bad.
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>>34921564
I can't take a guy seriously if his first name is an onomatopoeia
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>>34921564

been self-teaching oly for a few weeks.
did typical squat/press/dl strength routine for a year prior (6 months 'seriously').

Here is a 72kg 'heavy single' C&J from last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0msoMvD6dg

I feel like im receiving too high and not vertical enough at the bottom. Still figuring out split jerk.
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>>34932886

mak u cri evrytiem
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>>34933590

get a coach
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>>34932401

those are always highly variable, depending on proportions usually
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how much should my snatch pull be compared to my clean pull

i have an easier time clean pulling
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>>34933590
set up is way too long, it takes you what like 15s to find u hand pos. ??

Clean:
jumping forward
extending early
not finishing extension

Jerk:
front foot a bit farther, front shin wshould b perpendicular to ground
looked rly slow (fine when noob but just a note)
in your dip you start extension on your toes instead of midfoot
you dont finish extension/drive in the jerk
atleast u got the bar behind ur head, thats a start

what>>34933646
said
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Hi owg. Been lifting a few months.

Today I missed a bunch of snatches I did for 6 triples last week. Was very tired and sluggish (work).

Last week I altered my start pos and it felt very good, today everything felt crappy. Is this normal, to have days where you miss low lifts and you feel like you've forgotten everything?
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>>34934088
yes, ur fine
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>>34934039
>>34933646

thanks, I will have the time and money to invest in coaching after this hellish semester ends in mid december. I'd like to keep working on the movements and addressing mobility issues on my own until then though, not trying to put up numbers.
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>>34934139
Thanks ob. That's all I needed to hear.

Cut my session short to eat and sleep early tonight think in long run its a good idea.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0F8J4RMTbk
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>>34934205
yeah man, when in doubt eat more, sleep more, stretch more.

I would say unless you're injured or like dont have enough time, try not to cut sessions short.
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The barbell I use to squat is really shitty and is now like one of those texas powerlifter barbells that are intentionally bent or whatever. Also it doesn't spin+super stiff.

It sort of fucks up my squats. So I need a new barbell. Until then I can to fs in my garage with my deathtrap jerk stands.

Maybe add some pulls. Maybe.

Also this weekend will probably compile all of the bulgarian resources I know of.
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>>34934523
do you not lube your bars
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>>34921564

> 23 years old
> About to join the nearest city's oly gym

Wish me luck, bros.
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>>34934665
That bar is just really shit. When it "spins" it's actually unscrewing the ends. I screw both sides in before each set.
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my dad doesnt want me to get into Oly Weightlifting because he says itll leave me with a fucked up spine when I'm older and they'll mix in some funny pills into my food and stick needles into my glutes (which I have no problem with).

how to convince?
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>>34934848
Looks like you have to kill him and live with your uncle.
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>>34934848
fuck him what does he know
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>>34934930
my uncle is abroad and I cant really move there

>>34935014
thats why im asking, how to convince? idk shit about OW either, whats the long term effects of OW etc.?
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>>34928373
>>34928381
>>34928771
I know a 94 who front squatted 200 for a double naturally. Just takes hard work.
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>>34934848
>they'll mix in some funny pills into my food
lol
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>>34934523
>It sort of fucks up my squats.

how would a non spinning stiff bar fuck up your squats???????

i squatted 200 on rusty barbell that dont spin before i joined my current club with nice bars, i see minor difference in squatting none that would affect training
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>>34935461
shifting weights for someone who is not stable
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>>34933498

You don't really finish your pulls or get under with any real snappiness

It's not awful but it's not really a mystery where you're losing kilos
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Is there any way to stop losing core tightness in front squats?
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>>34935732
smushy faced baby faced bitch

you've got shit taste desu blood relative
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Why the fuck is it so expensive to work out at a crossfit weigh lifting gym???

I went in there today to ask how much it would be to just use their facility and work with a coach and they said the minimum price would be around 200$

Why the fuck is it so expensive to just do Olympic weightlifting in america
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>>34932968
>>34932991
>>34933000
So do any of you know a routine or template I could follow? Preferably just for backsquats now. My coach said I should focus on triples?

70kg bw, 100kg 8rm squat
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>>34936022
An 8rm holy fuck.... Where am I!
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I am a powerlifter (sorry for littering your board guys) and I found through trial and error method that high bar squats are looking better, feel easier and more natural for me.
Could you recommend an authoriry in WL world from whose instructional videos I could learn more about high bar squatting?
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>>34936097
Just thought id do an amrap. chill. You are in bodybelding.com :^)
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who here /bellycontact/

fuck hip contact do the belly contact

more power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXv_lKvi2DU
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>>34936160
Greg Everett of Catalyst Athletics
his book is available for download (complete guide for ...)
Also, unless you're Asian you should probably look towards the Russians / Soviets when it comes to tech and form etc (if you go youtubing shit)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApNgInHPqpU
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>>34935461
I wondered this, for classics I think a non spinny bar is bad even if you're snatching the kiddies 2.5s, but for squatting I don't see how bad it can be
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>>34936304
Lu only featured doing GPP and rehab stuff
Not a good sign
>tfw his golden days are over
>tfw he is no longer numbah wan
>mfw thinken about him hurtin
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>>34936286
asians squat different?
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>>34935461
It's also bent up pretty bad which is what the limiter really is.
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>>34936370
hashtags in the file name
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SHIIIIEEET
>>34936600
he did that not me
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>>34936388
are you the only guy who posts her videos?

i want to rub her clit

i bet its pretty big
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>>34936678
who else would post her?
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>>34928771

105 x4 = 440kg.

please post videos of a 440kg front squat.

lol
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>>34936388
>that one guy clapping
>my sides
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>>34935461

if you're used to an olympic bar sometimes the plates will cause the bar to rotate forward depending on your form, which can make you lean forward too much. Seen it happen
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>>34936639
E-Estonia?
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getting back into classics after 3 weeks off for foot problem, did a bunch of snatch work yesterday
mostly no touch, power, snatch complexes at 75%

today was a few clean complexes at 75% and posterior chain work

what should I do tomorrow? I'm thinking of muscle snatches (pressout version, not no touch) and close stance squats + bb
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>>34936391
You have literally no clue what you're talking about
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>>34936304
That first girl looks so freakin happy to be on camera, I wish I ever got that excited over anything.
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>>34936304

Lu looks tired and sad. He states his training has not been going well.

I feel bad for him. He will always be everyones champion in heart though.

farm boy #1 ! greetings from poland
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>>34936749
me, maybe

i want to fuck her very much

/owg/ is so jelly of her
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>>34935731
Pls
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>>34937351

houston tx?
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>>34938186

rack holds
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146clean pr
https://instagram.com/p/-K-aGxG1sc/
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>>34935731
>>34938186

Slay your core at the end of every session.

Long pause (~5 seconds) front squats.

LEARN2BRACE.
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>>34928764
Don't forget to tip the receptionist
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Cleaned 97.5 kg. Went on to jerk it, locked it out but weight moved back. Lower Back hyper extended and popped many times. Luckily I didn't go straight to snap city:) pray 4 me brehs about to go to bed. No pain since indecent but worried about stiffness in morning
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>>34938906
I did the exact same thing today. It didn't feel good lol. With 146kg
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>>34931657
wow i guess everything you do is on the internet
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkfXI-kahFk
So much for that
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>>34939656

it's funny because power snatching 80 for a double with shit technique and no idea what you're doing is still kind of impressive
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>>34939656
>So much for that
he didn't say he's going to quit though
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anyone in here dealt with rotator cuff injury?

Dislocated and pretty sure I tore it

am I fucked
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>>34940084
where's the pain located?

if its in front delt you tore your labrum

those things dont heal on their own, you can try rehab but you wont be able to lift without pain unless you have surgery on it

most people have their labrum torn, that's where the shoulder pain comes from. if you're a normal person strengthening rc muscles would be enough to make the pain go away, if you plan on lifting and competing better save up for the surgery. recovery takes about 4 months to about a year

donovan ford had his shoulder repaired 75% of it torn and he was back in 4 months, david garcia as well idk about the stats or how long he was out but i think it's the same time as donovan

i think they're both close to 170 snatch now a year after the surgery
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>>34940249

anterior/lateral delt, and more so towards the top of the joint. No real "pain," just lots of discomfort after lifting. That being said I haven't put anything over my head in about two months. Lots of squating, pulling, and as of this past week I just started cleaning again.

Interesting, did not know about donovan and david, only ian wilson. Gives me a bit of hope for the future. Being injured sucks man.

Surgery when I can afford it, it looks like...
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>>34936755
Well I've yet to see that but Ilya has at least a 320 feet at 105
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>>34936304
who's the qt at 4:15?
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>>34937072
Those shorts look like two basketball's sewn together.
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>>34935984
same here, I needed to pay 55€ but they gave me a 10€ discount because im a student

if you look at commercial gyms they are 15€
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Good program to do for the next few months while I am learning technique?
Can anyone recommend one heavily focused on backsquats with lighter days for technique?

5'9 70kg 110kg squat
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>>34941005
Fuck off josh
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>>34941239
What? Is this an inside joke?
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>>34932169
Pls guise.
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>>34941005
Pls guise
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>>34942119
Do more pulls?

>>34942159
Texas method squats with some pulls and light technique work?
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>>34938989
Woke up this morning and I'm perfectly fine.
Snap city avoided.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g65m2JMdK3o
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>>34942692
how do i become so supple

is it possibru at all
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>>34927269
my coach gave me this
9 set of squats :
3x5 at about 70% of max
3x4 at about 75% of max
3x3 at about 80% of max

the numbers increase, it's pretty rough but it yields good results.
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>>34942708
do the exact same sequence of stretches 10 times a day for 10 years
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>>34928373
would figure so, doing front squats for less than year and reached 140kg 86kg bw.
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>>34939656
>lowbar gave oar a ticket to the paintrain
guess ya shoulda done highbar :^)
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>>34925384
>squatting in running shoes
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>>34942270
Yeah but what would benefit my pulls? Only pull exercise I know are deadlifts.
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>>34943995
Snatch Pulls
Clean Pulls
RDL/SLDL versions of those pulls
High pulls, panda pulls, 1st pulls, those all help if done with 6-8 sets of 1-3, maybe for a single heavy set and then 3-4 back off sets. Pull-ups and Back Extensions too.
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>>34944233
Thank you friend, this is exactly the answer I wanted. Have a nice evening.
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Hit me with the dankest stretches you got, ideally for each body part, not barbell or bands stretches. I feel like my flexibility is coming to a halt.
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>>34944249
To add to this, snatch deadlift and clean deadlift can be useful in strengthening positions especially in beginners who are used to normal deads
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>>34939267
does she still has bushy armpits?
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>>34940990
yeah but the commercial gym near me doesnt have proper equipment and is crowded af and they probably wouldnt allow the lifts i do
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Man, I'm so pumped for worlds.
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>>34945573
are you me
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>>34945573
>>34945601
wtf2kuyas
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Cleaned 100kg from floor for first time today

Still fucking up 60kg snatches despite being like 15 under my Max. What is life.
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>>34946120
Hey man, congrats on your clean PR!
Do you know where you're fucking up your snatches? if you do, drill those primarily weak areas with a working weight percentage, and keep going at it.
You'll get there man.
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>>34946162
Idk man everything just feels fucked this week. I did 60 for 6x3 last week and hit 75 two days after

I see a coach once a week but can be hard to be watched closely as he has a big class to watch. He said it wasn't too bad I was just setting up a bit different. I just need to groove it all in a bit more cos when it goes well it feels good but sometimes idk wtf I'm doing anymore

I've not been oly lifting long, 5months since I started weekly classes and about 3 I've been focussed on it, I think I'm a slow learner desu but I'll get there even if it takes me 10x longer than it should
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>>34932401
>150 1rm bs
>89 sn pr 2 days ago

tfw good ratio but still a weak skeleton

https://www.instagram.com/p/-MqKBOviYd/

ur jelly of my ratios
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I have a question. I have a really high sternum. It is way above my shoulders. When i put a bar in the front rack position it lays on my sternum no matter how i move my shoulders and it fucking hurts. That's the reason i have never done cleans or front squats. Does anyone have the same problem?
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>>34946241
I am jelly. Squat 10kg more than you but you're nearly 20kg aahead at snstching
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>>34946291
post pic of your body, or at least that body part, im curious
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>>34946291
Mate just learn to re rack like this fella

https://instagram.com/p/utcSxIlP5a/
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>>34945573

Got my tickets
Got a room on the executive level of the event hotel with free drinks in the lounge
My body is ready
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>>34946809
Take a bunch of pics / vids
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>>34946837

For sure
I doubt I'll be able to get in the training hall but idk maybe my coach will let me sneak in considering he's the team usa women's coach for worlds
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QTs all around senpaitachi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhpBu1osbo
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>>34943424

How many days a week , and what does the progression look like week-to-week?
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>>34946809
>>34946866
That's sweet man, can't wait to see pics and vids from your end.
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>>34948205

I'll post stuff starting Wednesday next week, going to watch the men's 85-105+ and some of the women's stuff too
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>>34948376
Where are you planning on training while there?
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>>34948460

There's a crossfit gym that's supposed to be in the downtown area near the event that I'll try to drop in with

Friend of mine is going and she's competing at the AO so I figured I'd get a session or two in

Otherwise I'll probably be a little drunk for the entire time
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extremely sore lately bros. any tips for recovery besides cycling ?
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>>34948914
yeah, sleep and eat and dont lift.
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Do you guys program in any plyo work?
What would be the best method to increase my vertical jump? Oly lifters are usually very good at it, and most of the stuff online is shitty interval work.
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>>34948914
Have better programming, sleep and eat
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hi
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>>34944726
She did at nationals a few months ago. She looks like a dirty, unwashed neet asian girl who can also lift a lot.
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>>34948908
YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

M A T T I E
A
T
T
I
E
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>>34949113
You can do box jumps as a warm up for the main lifts, get everything firing.

More intensive stuff like bounding, jump squats is probably best kept to the GPP phase.
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>>34948908

Shes kool, but your file names give me cancer.
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>>34949320

GPP?
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>>34949519
its from her twitter feed.
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>>34949531
instagram
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>>34949556
i got it off of her twitter feed. this one is from her ig tho
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>>34949527
General physical preparedness. How much work you can handle.
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>>34949615

DOes gregory eveites go over this in his program?
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Hips are so sore
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>>34949594
i want to lick those armpits
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are there any companies that sell gym bags that are essentially backpacks?

i mean i can just buy a big ass backpack too but i feel like i might be able to find something higher quality.

i have a herniated disc in my neck and lifting doesn't bother it. in fact snatching and jerking makes my back feel amazing.

but i recently realized that my gym bag (which is slung over the shoulder) is what causes the pain. i need a back pack big enough for my shoes, knee sleeves, change of clothes, notebook, water, etc. i take public transit so i have to lug all my shit around
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>>34949663

dun fuk ur gf so hard
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>>34949654
If you mean his book I think he brushes over it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjQr2vW30qw

Why are american coaches such shit?
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>>34950088
he's not a professional coach
amateur coaches in russia are just as garbage i'm sure
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what kind of sweats are these

https://www.instagram.com/p/96Us7UmF_W/

w2c
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>>34949901
hylete makes them i have several teammates who owns them but they're almost the same price as romaleos/adipowers

not worth it

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=node%3D360832011&field-keywords=gym

http://www.amazon.com/Reebok-Delta-Grouper-Backpack-Black/dp/B00W0Y59MI/ref=sr_1_5?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1447820493&sr=1-5&nodeID=360832011&keywords=gym

my friend owns the reebok im not sure if its the exact same one but it looks the same, it's enough for his shoes and belt
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>>34950235
thanks, is it a nylon belt? just asking for an idea of how much room the bag has
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>>34950049

where could i read up on this subject?
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>>34950208

Brian is a great athlete, but man is he a bad coach.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/-Mq6Grik20/

holeeee fuck
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>>34950407
yeah they are, if you can fit shoes in the bag you can pretty much fit any belt in there in my experience
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>No Salimi
>No Albegov
>No Rostami
>No Hui
>No Ilya
Just fuck my championship up
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>>34950852
David and aukhadov are there tho
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>>34950900
Is that Uzbek guy that came second there too?
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>>34950852
lu xiaojun is lift

tian tao is lift

aukhadov is lift

okulov is lift

ivan stoitsov is listed at 85 we'll see if he's attending tomorrow

timur naniev is also attending my current favorite lifter his technique is so clean, definitely someone to watch if you're trying to learn
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>>34950910
Lu's getting old, I think his best performance is behind him, still he seems to be in a league of his own though, so 77 probably won't be that interesting
85 is really the only one to look forward to, it has the most talent
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>>34950852
But Rostami will be going
>mfw thinking about Rostami, Apti (Healed now), Okulov, and Tian Tao
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>>34950926
>so 77 probably won't be that interesting

not really, if martirosyan shows up healthy he can beat lu

also that korean man with 200kg cj last year can beat lu if he can post a decent snatch, also the other chinamen 77 can beat lu younger has close numbers to lu
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>>34950973
>martirosyan
191 and 160 at Europeans this year, add 10kg to each and I think Lu will still beat that
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http://www.allthingsgym.com/2015-chinese-weightlifting-nationals/
read the 85kg segment
>tian tao has clean & jerked 230 in training
holy fuck.
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>>34948038
Someone respond
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>>34951053
Eh, thats just training, pretty sure Liao has done like 210+ in training but his best in comp is just 198
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>>34951055
I guess 2-3 times a week, maybe 4-5 if you really need to bring your squat up in a training cycle.
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>>34951070
then what do the numbers really mean
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>>34951070
I remember reading in an interview with liao hui that he starts "controlling bodyweight" a few days out by nearly starving himself, hardly eating and drinking water, and that it can greatly affect his strength. I wonder if they all make weight like this, and if they tried another way if they would be able to lift more.
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>>34951087
He'll probably get 218, but his Snatch is kind of shit so I don't expect a gold, Apti will probably get 175+210 at least, Rostami's CnJ was shaky as fuck last year, pretty sure nobody though he would get the green light but he still did, Artem is a wild card, Markov was banned too right? 85 is gonna be great
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>>34951100
Tian has snatched 175 in comp, and 218 in comp as well.
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>>34951108
I see you stated that he c&j 218 lol my bad
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>>34951108
What comp did he do 175?
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>>34951095
>and if they tried another way if they would be able to lift more.

you mean cutting longer?

i think if you're training that long it's pretty much impossible to maintain below weight class if you're the right height. that's why you see older athletes move up weightclasses when they can no longer endure cutting

he also competed at 77 in some comp not too long ago, i dont think he can gain enough weight to be competitive in that class either like aukhadov trying to be a 94
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>>34951116
Chinese nationals this year.
>>34951119
I guess, just not making as dramatic of a cut as eliminating every meal.
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>>34951116
chinese nationals

he did 170 last year wwc though
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>>34951155
>>34951161
>Nationals
Probably still on juice at that point, take National results with a grain of salt
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>>34951166
LU DID BETTER ON WORLD STAGE THAN HE DID NATIONALS last year

GG M8
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>>34951178
There are other factors to take into consideration senpai
9 times out of 10 people do better at Nationals than Internationals
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>that guy who sticks his tongue out when snatching
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new vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEEI2K7cAcM

does anyone know what the first song is by any chance?
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>>34951073
I just came back from the gym I overestimated my 1RM and couldn't finish. Also ripped my trackpants.

Got some Hungry Jacks though.

So it assuming you train 4-5 times a week? I train 3-4 times but want to train more with lighter weight to practice technique
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are weightlifting shoes useless if one has sufficient ankle mobility?
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>>34952078
No. They improve ankle mobility more, their sole won't compress under heavy loads and they will protect your ankle joint plus stablize your foot.
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>>34952217
they dont improve ankle mobility, they allow for less mobility m8
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I'm a really tall lifter (6'6") and am currently doing a powerlifting routine, but I'm really interested in weightlifting. My question is, is it suitable for me at all? I'm scared that due to my height the leverages will fuck me up and I won't put up any weight, or worse, i'll injure myself. Are there any other tall lifters in here who can comment on this?
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>>34952873
I am 6'3" and 240 lbs. The leverages are not that big a deal. There are ideal leverages but then there are leverages that can be fixed with changes in technique and just training through them.

I reckon my femur length isn't ideal but I still trying my best.

Strength is what matters and since you are 6'6" don't think about anything less than the 105+ KG category

You have people like Ilya Ilyin at 5'10" who are in the < 105 KG category.
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