Slavery Thread

>>7372313
Have them pray to me.

>>7372436
would like slaves with sharp tongues and adequate minds, but still fully submitting when told and loyal to their masters.

It'd be perfect if they have a fit or muscular body. All that strength and they are still restrained and at the master's mercy.

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>>7372593
>Have them pray to me.
Well that's boring.

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>>7371922
>Common slaves really should not be literate.
I'd rather have literate slaves. Avoiding all forms of written instructions and communication would be too much of a nuisance.

Besides, I like the idea of well educated sex slaves. Valued for their expertise in intellectual/professional fields as well their cock sucking.

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>>7372432
>I'm more or less with you on all that. I think VR does in some ways offer a motivation to the protagonist of such a story, as it means that there could be an escape in the end.
Also, it provides some motivation for them to play along at the start as it is "just a game" before they realize the extent of how much they have been screwed.

>>7371922
>>7372072
>artifical dyslexia
I find that interesting for VR aswell. Not so much scrambling the UI/menus but rather it disabling the "translator" and the player now needs to learn whatever made-up runes the developers created for the game-universe (provided they didn't go further and created a full in-game language)

>>7372857
I can understand why the idea of being able to take it away as punishment (in a fantasy/sci-fi setting) is interesting.

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Dumping some faves

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Which are you, slave or owner?
How do you imagine slavery functioning in your fantasy? Why is there slavery?

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It's armchair psychoanalysis time!

What do you find attractive about the idea of slavery as a setting? Do you imagine it to be an accepted institution, or something happening illegally at the margins of society? What difference does this make to you?

When you imagine yourself as the master or the slave, what attracts you to this role? What do you get out of it?

Do you imagine yourself owning or being owned by strangers, or by people who knew you beforehands?

Do you imagine yourself or your property to be there voluntarilly or involuntarilly? Why does this matter to you? (and if you like both at different times, what attracts you to either?)

Finally: Do you want the slave to suffer or to find comfort in their situation? Why do you think you ultimately want that?

Introspect to reach enlightenment! It's not like you have anything better to do.

>>7372857
Going back to the brain implants...

Then just implement a slave script. It's a simplified script that is designed so as to quickly and easily communicate commands.

If a slave really needs to be able to read or write her master can disable the scrambler, but for slaves that only need to be able to read written instructions, the slave script would be used.

Both notions can exist. The well-educated sex-slave would be able to read, while the common slave would not.

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>>7373566
I enjoy worldbuilding in general. I'm not sure what attracts me so much to slavery.

I think at some level I just find the idea of that sort of relationship to be... romantic in a sense. It's a bit twisted when you think about it from a contemporary point of view, but at some level there's something pure about one person having to devote their entire being wholly to the upkeep of another. It means giving up all your own hopes and dreams and goals in favor of another.

Perhaps it's that I myself have had difficulty deciding on my own goals. At some level, I imagine being in the place of a slave, having my path in life determined for me rather than having to choose it myself. In a way, it's "freedom" from having to choose your own goals, and instead you know that you will only ever have to work in someone else's service.

There's a sort of romanticism to the idea of being sold to a stranger, knowing that you will spend the entirety of your being in service of that person. I would not have the right to most comforts, and I would have to show obeisance to my superior in a rigid way determined by common protocol. I think that's another thing - I suffer from social anxiety, so again the idea of having strict protocol to follow is comforting for me.

I really don't know. I imagine the life of a slave in my worlds to be fairly tiring, such that a slave would end each day completely exhausted. Yet, that lack of freedom would also be a source of comfort.

>>7372857

>I'd rather have literate slaves. Avoiding all forms of written instructions and communication would be too much of a nuisance.

A little annoying, sure, but necessary. No need letting them get ideas.

...Although the clever ones might invent a pictographic language to communicate with instead. Not sure how to get around that one.

>>7373566
Doesn't really matter to me whether it's accepted or illegal.

Domination; holding a woman down and raping her when there's nothing she can do about it.

Usually a stranger. Sometimes I fantasize about kidnapping and raping women in my life, but never anyone I actually talk to regularly.

I really like the idea of a slave who struggles. That she can't stand being a slave and that it tears her up inside. Happy and especially "Broken" slaves just don't really do it for me.

I like it when they suffer, but not just for its own sake. There's nothing for me in a girl who gets tortured and raped 24/7 for her entire life. I think my favorite part about slavery fantasies is the psychological trauma after they get out. The idea of meeting a former sex slave with severe mental health issues and either abusing them or helping them through their problems is just attractive to me. Relating to girls with mental health issues is definitely part of that, too (though the idea of being a female sex slave getting fucked by guys isn't attractive to me, the idea of being a *former* female sex slave dealing with mental trauma from the experience definitely is).

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>>7374398
In a modern or future setting, you're better off letting them have access to digital communication and monitoring what they do with it.

Unless you keep them completely isolated, slaves are going to find ways to gossip anyway. Why not give them a social networking site of their own? Where everything they post is archived and available to their owners.

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>>7373566
I enjoy imagining it as something the elites illegally get away with -- anyone without the money would be prosecuted, but the elites invite other elites and government officials to partake in orgies with and they pretend nothing's happening. In paperwork, the slaves are adopted family members or wives, husbands... but their paperwork is forged to assume they are mentally incompetent and cannot travel without the legally-compitent master.

I like both roles in this fetish. Being a master and deciding where and when and how I can enjoy my slaves, knowing they can't rebuff without more intense sexual sessions. That, and being a slave and fighting for any control and planning escape, knowing any of the other slaves might be planning to turn me in for favor.

People I knew beforehand, honestly. I act weird around new people, asking me to be intimate with them... no. Previous experience would have me freeze up on either side. They'd be in complete control of the situation because I wouldn't be able to do anything but stare blankly at them. (That, and it'd be a turn on to see how they were before I corrupted them and made them mine/ vice versa.) Maybe in fantasy, fishing for them before having them abducted. That way you weed out high-risk targets and ones that aren't mentally suitable.

Involuntary, probably. I'm a bit of a sadomaso, so it just heightens the tension and is a turn-on when the other end isn't expecting it and force an orgasm with it. The mind-games and corrupting them, making them want my touch is such a turn-on. I want them to suffer, but know they're welcome in my embrace. I would want them to associate the activities with pleasure, and eventually accept the role of a slave, becoming a submissive and eventually a partner.

(And after writing all that, I realize how opposite that is to how I am irl, especially writing most of that as a master's pov. It would get boring after some time, but thank goodness for porn.)

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>>7372072
>The ideal solution is to have a society where each person has a chip implanted in their brain. This applies to both freepeople and slaves. It's the same chip, but can be toggled into different modes based on the status of the person - this way it only needs to be implanted once at birth without surgeries being needed afterwards.
>The "slave chip" automatically scrambles text so that the brain cannot interpret it. The slave's eyes are unaffected and receive visual information fine - rather, the chip intersects what the eye sees and scrambles text.
You may like The Quantum Thief.

Also reminds me of Sansha's Nation from Eve Online.

>>7374536

Gossip isn't the problem, rebellious plots are. The idea is to prevent them from collaborating effectively.

Like the Haitian revolution, where all the plantations rose up simultaneously.

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>>7374398
Going back to the chips idea, in such a futuristic society it's not unbelievable to imagine that paper would be obsolete and writing would be done on e-reader style displays. That would mitigate the issue.

The other solution is just to keep the slaves so busy that they don't have time to write.

>>7374536
I disagree with this. Slaves shouldn't have the free time to spend on a social networking site.

If they want to socialize, they can do so in person. No reason to give them access to computers or that sort of communication. This also makes them more dependent on their masters, who are now the gatekeepers of social activity.

Social media is not in any way a need for humans. There is absolutely no benefit to letting slaves have it. Human beings, free or slaves, have survived for millennia without it. Better to make computers devices that are only available to the free - the way I imagine it, computer screens would be filtered by the slave's chip and it would simply not be an option to train a slave to use a computer.

>>7375435
This is a big reason. The additional reason is because there is no benefit to social media being available to slaves.

As I said, humans have survived without social media for millennia. Social media is a total luxury. Just prevent slave access to it and be done. There's not really a reason to even consider granting it.

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Slaves should be slaves.

If you're not going to take personal responsibility for your actions then you need a master to be responsible for you.

Slaves become slaves usually through debt or crime because work is just as good as coin. Slaves can do any work they are trained for although sex is usually what most are good for, even if it's just being a warm body. Slave cannot own personal money because all they earn goes to paying debt.

Masters should have a lot of overhead in slave treatment. While slaves are just property, they still break, and that's no good for anyone. As i've said slaves cannot have personal money so a master must be able to tend to them like pets.

That being said a slave has no way of protesting. They have no rights and should not be treated as important as people or pets, more like a family heirloom that all generations can enjoy.

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>>7375435
Which is exactly why you should make an easily monitored and tracked communication device an integral part of their lives.

It's hard to keep tabs on whispered conversations. Even if you put listening devices in slave collars, someone would need to manually listen to all those recordings to find the important bits. With digital text communication you can use all kinds of automated analysis and search tools.

Then there's the opportunity to subtly manipulate their world view. Tweak feeds so that positive posts, especially about slaves taking satisfaction in service or saying positive things about their owners, get more prominence. While negative posts, especially those that are critical of owners or the institution of slavery, tend to get lost in the shuffle. Skewing their perceptions of what's normal. So that it seems like most slaves are relatively happy, and rebellious sentiments are rare.

>>7375569
You aren't doing it for their benefit. You're doing it to gain greater control over

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>>7375952
Eh, I simply can't agree with that way of thinking. In my eyes slaves need to be at work for their owners or waiting for orders, not chatting online.

I guess it's more of an aesthetic thing for me. I don't see the appeal in creating and maintaining a social network platform for slaves. Their social bonds should tie them to their masters/fellow household slaves.

I just don't see the logic in giving them a platform to speak as a means of controlling them.

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>>7375952

>Hey Slave, here's this communication net that we are totally gonna use to keep tabs on you

>Hey Master, we will spend every waking moment trying to figure out every possible way to break, abuse, and subvert this system for our own ends, because that's what slaves do.

>Oh, whoops

"And that, children, is why Skynet is fucking me in the ass."

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>>7376140
I can see their point though, although it's not required, it lets you hold another power and control over the slave, on top of that the surveillance thing lets them know even on the internet they are still under your power.

>>7373566
It's sort of autistic, but I prefer being a slave, because I like the idea of having strict orders and rules from somebody to follow, and not needing proper human-human interactions.

Main appeal being a master has is just because bondage is cute.

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>>7375952
Eh, that's just Facebook though.
It's honestly kind of boring as an idea, and blatant propaganda isn't really good at framing things if you know enough to distrust it.

If you're going to do shit like that, it has to be much more subtle, and more capable than something automated systems are right now.

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>>7377299

>Internet explorer

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Question: When travelling with a slavegirl, do you put her in:

>checked baggage?

>Carry-on?

>or do you get an extra seat for her, like you would for an expensive cello?

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>>7376140
Not to mention, you're introducing a distraction into the slave's life.

>>7377271
This is like saying walking a dog off-leash gives you more control over it. Even if the social network is strictly monitored, you are giving the slave more freedom, not taking more control.

I don't get the fascination with a slave social network. Social media is a luxury. It just doesn't make sense to provide it to slaves.

>>7378175
Unless we're talking about midgets or amputees, they're not fitting under the seat or in the overhead, so carry-on is out.

Really, it would depend on how long the flight is. On a flight to Australia, for example, I would absolutely be willing to pay for an extra seat so that I could use her; otherwise, checked baggage. Actually, if you find yourself doing a lot of traveling, it might be worth it to invest in a "travel-sized" slave. The only question then is whether she goes through the luggage scanner (exposing her to potentially harmful x-rays) or the people scanner (in which having TSA look at her naked body would ironically run the risk of making her feel more human).

>>7378346
>This is like saying walking a dog off-leash gives you more control over it
No, but it will make it more humiliating when you do re-attach it. If it's kept on then it will swiftly become mundane, however if it's not, then it retains the shock factor a lot longer.
Like a sort of similar principle to horror games, a headcrab in every vent makes it a chore, whereas a few well-placed ones are far better for instilling fear.

Honestly I can't see the need for a social network like that, outside of Master's other slaves, and the slave sof party guests

>>7378572
10/10

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>>7373566
>Do you imagine it to be an accepted institution, or something happening illegally at the margins of society?
I like settings where slavery is an ingrained part of the culture. Where both slaves and masters alike see it as part of the normal order of things. The average slave's submission can almost be taken for granted. There will be incidents of misbehavior that require punishment, but earnest attempts to rebel or escape are very rare.

I wrote the "lesbian slave planet" stuff in the pastebin achieve. So that's a good example of the sort of dynamic I'm talking about.

>When you imagine yourself as the master or the slave, what attracts you to this role?
I usually don't imagine myself as part of the story at all. Half the time there aren't even any male characters involved. When I do self-insert, it's as the master. A relatively "nice" master.

Something appeals to me about relationships that have a profound power imbalance but are still intimate and affectionate. If a slave trusts her master, that has to be a very deep trust. There's no outside force protecting her from him.

>Do you imagine yourself or your property to be there voluntarilly or involuntarilly?
Usually involuntary in the sense that the slaves didn't choose to be slaves. But also semi-voluntary in the sense that many wouldn't want to be set free if they were given a choice.

>Do you want the slave to suffer or to find comfort in their situation?
I prefer relatively gentle slavery. A slave might be spanked as punishment, but nothing too brutal. I like to imagine slaves ultimately becoming devoted pets to the right master or mistress, and feeling like they've found where they belong.

>>7378175
>>7378572 continued

Now that I think about it, I suppose amputees would have to go through the luggage scanner, since it's not like they could walk through the checkpoint. Plus, the owner who hacks off a slave's limbs for travel convenience is probably not the kind of man who cares about exposing her to radiation.

Unless... does TSA still do pat-downs?

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>>7379340
No one would care if a slave feels violated by security. They would probably just strip her naked on the spot and do a cavity search.

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Question for Doms: Would you value looks or practical skills more in a slave? Suppose one slave for sale is average looking but can cook, sew, and do various other domestic chores skillfully. The other is drop dead gorgeous, but has almost no experience doing anything besides being a sex toy. Which would you rather have?

For subs: What would it take to break down your resistance and make you accept your enslavement? Or do you think you would take to the role immediatly?

For switches: Would you treat your own slave(s) any differently than you would want to be treated as a slave?

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>>7379651
>Switch leaning sub,
Main appeal to owning one, would be dressing them up in bondage gear but as the slave I'd hope to do a lot more power-play games.

>for subs.
I would pretty much accept it, but push a little bit to find out where the line is.

How about you, as you didn't answer?

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>>7378175
>>7378572
>Unless we're talking about midgets or amputees, they're not fitting under the seat or in the overhead, so carry-on is out.
Just for fun, let's assume this airline lets you bring carry-on that weighs up to 100 pounds and up to 5 feet tall (when unpacked).

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>>7378175
>When travelling with a slavegirl, do you put her in:

If the owner is in 1st class or business then the slave comes with you to tend to you during the flight. While all the rest go in the back of the plane in the caged area for the slaves. As in they board together and the master takes the slave to the slave area of the plane then goes to their seat.
If its a short flight 1-2hrs slaves are put into built in cages like image here. Anything longer than that the plane has a cage area with food and water and each slave is chained up as well so the airline can avoid any property damage charges.

>>7379262
>I usually don't imagine myself as part of the story at all. Half the time there aren't even any male characters involved.
Wait, you're male? All this time I assumed you were a super submissive lesbian!

How come you have this fantasy without inserting in it?

When you do insert, do you insert as a woman or change the setting to have male masters?

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what do your slave shops look like?

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>>7380130
>>7380130

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Anyone know what this is from?

Does anyone fantasize about the process of training the slaves? A lot of hentai kind of brushes over it with the slaves automatically mindbreaking after their orgasm, but I like to imagine a more involved, and somewhat more realistic process... (long post incoming)

The process for breaking in a new girl: Initially, all of the girls refuse to talk to her in anything except for the bare minimum required to give her work assignments (this is enforced with minor punishments and social shunning for any girls that violate it). She isn't allowed to talk except when spoken to (punished with a shock collar, or if a fantasy/sci-fi setting something more advanced). She is denied all forms of human contact, save for the occasional minor touch or small talk from me, her master. After a month in, the few occasional words and small talk from me or from the head girl are treasured by her. For punishment, I would have the head girl handle the punishment, while I acted to moderate it, in a good cop/bad cop routine, except maintained for the entire first several months. When she breaks from the denial of contact, or I decide she is ready, then she gets her first rape. Afterwards, she is allowed to talk a little bit more, and the other girls in turn treat her a little bit better.

...continued in next post

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>>7380130

>>7380280

This process is repeated and scaled to level of obedience and the extent to which they please me so as to create cult like pressure to conform and please me. Various privileges (speaking privileges, quality of food, quality of clothing, living space, even a slight measure of privacy, length she is allowed to grow her hair) are conferred as a girl does better at being obedient, completing her work, and pleasing me. The new girl is treated like an inanimate object, given nutritional slush to eat, skimpy rags to wear, given a mat in a public area to sleep on. The lower ranks are given cheap skimpy costumes, a dormitory to sleep in, etc. The middle ranks are actually allowed to dress modestly and given a small, but personal area. The higher ranks theoretically can dress modestly and use a larger personal area, although most of them use their privileges to dress in a provocative manner pleasing to me and to sleep in my bedroom. The higher ranks are also allowed to use and abuse the lower ranks as they see fit, although I would encourage them to take on particular roles (one acting as "good cop" to comfort and nurture the lower ranks, another acting as a sadist, another acting harsh but fair, etc.).

Entering the higher ranks requires an initiation which is designed uniquely to each girl. Typically each one is an opportunity to prove their loyalty, obedience and serves as a way to mold them further. Resisting waterboarding or other torture to prove themselves for someone that I want to show extreme physical obedience. For another, I might have them torture a disobedient girl or execute (real or mock) a disobedient girl as a way of showing the loyalty psychologically. The process should force them to give up something key or to cross some line to ensure they are utterly committed to me.

>>7380280
>>7380288
Keep posting.

>>7380288

Getting this cycle of indoctrination started depends on the setting. For a setting where slavery already exists, I would purchase a well trained girl from a close friend. The next several girls would be purchased all at once and trained together in a competing fashion. The most disobedient would serve as an example to others in her punishments, while the most obedient would serve as an example with the rewards she would receive. From there, I play them against each other to establish an initial hierarchy until the next batch of girls are purchased and the previous bottom rung has a chance to prove themselves as they are temporarily above the bottom ranks.

For the overall setting... for a fantasy setting, perhaps a rapidly expanding empire where new conquests bring in new slaves. My harem would act as a melting pot of cultures, with them ultimately being broken to serving within the empire. Engraved tattoos with spells serve as a safeguard against disobedience and a way of administering both rewards and punishment.

For a near future sci-fi... increased automation and centralization of wealth have allowed the elite to take over society completely. The lower rungs scrape by with minimum living conditions and crappy service jobs. New legal standards allow for effectively owning another person. Some people think selling themselves may make for a better life... Ultimately they are right, but they will have to prove themselves to me to earn it first. Implants that can administer various forms of drugs and pain serve to deliver both reward and punishment.

>>7380297

> Keep posting.

I outlined the basic scenario... but now I feel motivated to provide a little more narrative to the setting... near-future quasi-libertarian sci-fi:

When I signed up for cryonics, I viewed it as a remote long shot that might take the invention of a super intelligence and a post scarcity society to pay off. To my surprise, I woke up a mere 50 years later. I expected a post-scarcity communist utopia that had resurrected me out of charity, but in fact, a trust which I had set-up to provide funds towards my revival had paid off massively and left me with sufficient dividend to live off of for many years. This future society... it provided nutrient sludge, a cubicle of living space, a net connection with a viewer, and basic healthcare for free, but everything else was quite expensive, so much so as to form a sharp divide between the classes. Many of the cubeys (as they were derogatorily called), were quite eager to grasp at any chance for prosperity. Thanks to my own, wealth, I enjoyed taking advantage of many cubey gold digger wannabes only to dump them aside after I had pushed them for every sexual favor imaginable. I ultimately grew board of this, as even destitution wasn't enough to really push people to do anything...

In my previous life, I had been quite successful, working in academia studying neuroscience, then founding my own company. My old company had flourished, inventing many cybernetic implants used for a variety of purposes. It also provided me with connections to the upper levels of the elite. It was at party hosted by one of them that I first encountered the new model for society. The party got kinky with various sexual favors being exchanged. Among those being treated more inhumanely... I assumed they were cubey's desperate to prostitute themselves for a buck, but as the acts elevated into outright torture and mutilation I grew worried. (continued...)

>>7380323
My host reassured me. He showed me a legal contract and allowed me to take a copy for me to have my lawyer examine. The cubeys that had signed it... anything short of murder was legal. The contract took advantage of a special intersection of law relating to voluntary human experimentation, work contracts, and debt laws (although my host assured me that new legislation and judicial precedent would soon make this deal more common). Legally, the contracted could demand to be released, and in 24 hours their owner would have to restore them to health and release them, but with the conditions of their contract, they wouldn't even keep the clothes on their back. Furthermore, the amount of cybernetic modification that could be used on them... with careful development they could be modified to lose all independent thought, or be made to be utterly dependent on their owner. My host offered to me one of the girls he had completed this process with as a gift to me. After-all, the advances in cybernetics I had helped produce made this possible in the first place, thus I deserved to enjoy the fruits of my labor. My host did mention that he would like to hear back on my progress, I might have some new innovations to provide.

After several test runs of Hana (as I had renamed her), , I was convinced of the potential. What ultimately convinced me was when I took Hana, and waterboarded her with the order to not panic and to trust me. I was able to waterboard her for a full minute before she so much as flinched. Trained soldiers and hardened fanatics often break after 30 seconds. I contacted my host and he helped me locate 3 potential contractees: Stephanie, who needed a lot of cash to finance her brother's startup company. I would provide the payment for her contract in 3 installments: a moderate upfront purchase price, a large chunk of cash after one year of service, and a very large loan.. (continued)

>>7380342
and a very large loan which I could revoke if or when Stephanie reneged on her end and demanded her freedom. Stephanie was perhaps hoping that a year of slavery would be enough for her brother to have established his company and paid back the loan... I of course planned to break her well before that. Knowing that she was going for a set amount of time also made things easier on my end.

Emily: A cam-whore and prostitute who dealt in weird and extreme fetishes. Emily had quasi-legal neural modification to help her deal with the pain and humiliation of satisfying her typical clients. Her contract paid her very well every after her first week, and then again every 3 months for up to a year of service... she probably thought she could handle everything I could throw at her and then walk away much richer... unfortunately, she wasn't up to date on what the latest cybernetics could do.

Alexandra: A trust fund princess who had a falling out with her family... she seemed to be looking for easy money, which is why her contract required a full month for her first payment. As long as I can string her along for the first month, I should be able to break her without any issue, and her inexperience at life should make her even more vulnerable...

Between the 3 of them I should be able to replicate the same level of obedience as I had in Hana, and possibly create something new...

(next up, meeting the girls)

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>>7379651
>Switch leaning sub

I would treat my slaves in the same way I would want my owner to treat me. From what to wear to what kind of work they have to do and what is done with them in public and at home. All of it is I enjoying doing it to them as much as I love had it being done to me.

>For subs What would it take

Nothing I'm the kind who would sign up to be a slave girl of my own will so nothing to break down when I'm already willing at the role.

is this discord for roleplay or actually finding masters and slaves?

>>7380466
If it's for roleplay I'm missing out!

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>>7380072
I can see why you'd assume that. I do tend to focus on the slave's thoughts and feelings when writing. I just think a sub's head space is more interesting.

As for the lack of self-insertion, that's just how my fantasies normally are. I usually don't think of any particular character as me, unless I'm role-playing with someone. In which case I will be a dominate male character. I've never tried using the LSP setting for a role-play. The stuff I've posted in these threads is really all I've done with it outside my own head.

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Looking over this thread, I realize I'd probably be a bad slave owner. All I really want is to have my slave's arms and legs amputated and play with them as a toy. All this training stuff sounds kinda tiresome too, I'd rather solve the problem through brute force. If they bite, I'd just have all their teeth are pulled out, if they're too noisy or verbally aggressive, their vocal cords are removed, and if they try to hurt themselves or others, they are subjected to a lobotomy.

I guess I would be more of a collector and manager than anything else. Buying girls in bulk and building up a stable of limbless fucktoys, renting them out for days at a time, using them to decorate rooms and as cushions, overall treating them more like property than people.

>>7380684
Pretty much everything in that first paragraph is too extreme for my tastes. But treating them like collectables and keeping them around the house as decorations does sound strangely adorable.

>>7380708
It may sound extreme, but it's not as bad as it sounds. Only really bad girls get to be punished like that. Good girls that are still sweet after the amputations get treated well enough. Cute pillowcase-like body stockings for clothes, decent food, and if they are really good, they become one of the favorites. Becoming a favorite is basically an upgrade from limbless fucktoy, to limbless sex pet. Petting, cuddling, kissing, more personal love making sessions, and delicious treats are in store for those lucky few.

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>>7379651
More questions

For Doms: What sort of punishments and rewards would you use?

For subs: What about you do you think would most please your master, and what do you think you would most often be punished for?

For switches: Are you dom and sub fantasies segregated from each other, or do you ever get into role-reversal scenarios? Where you're a former slave owner who's now enslaved, or vice versa.

>>7380684
>>7380725
Replied in the amputee thread, because that's the main part of why this is hot >>7381052

>>7374496
breaking a slave girl towards obedience is just adding hurtcomfort onto/after the abuse arc, where she is praised and helped to stand again, but only in master's chains.

>>7380288
I'd probably end up trying to kill you if you forced me to kill someone. this is not a line you want to make anyone cross.

>>7380613
What's that from?
I wanna see if that author did some other equipment stuff.

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So, if you had the power to rewrite reality at will, how would you go about bringing about slavery in today's world?

Would all women be automatically enslaved? Maybe only a portion of the population is enslaved, but all women need to endure humiliating regular inspections to determine which women should be enslaved?

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>>7380684

There's a deep, dark place in me that finds this hot, but I do have to wonder why you need so many slaves that you're willing to mute and lobotomize the delinquents rather than just getting rid of them. There are bound to be people or establishments that would take a delinquent fucknugget off your hands for a decent price, and beyond their personalities (which those procedures would pretty much remove, at least as far as you're concerned), one quad slave is essentially the same as another.

At a certain point, you're just a slave-hoarder, and need to get help.

How do I break an arrogant, haughty girl than?

>>7381394
Yeah, I did say I'd be a bad slave owner. A quad amputee is like a houseplant. They sit there being useless decoration, take a lot of care to keep healthy, but they look pretty and make the house feel alive. You can never have too much flowers in your garden.

That said, only those slaves that are a danger to themselves or others would get lobotomies. To me, a pretty doll without a brain is more desirable than a wild animal. My slaves can be as kind or as hateful as they want, they're welcome to have a personality, just so long as they behave.

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>>7381294

You're in luck anon.

http://hentai-image.com/image/artist-lamb-34-new-pictures/

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>>7380280
I don't have the time (or, honestly, the drive right now) to write out any sort of detail, but as somebody who fetishizes being a slave, I'm in love with the idea of being thoroughly trained and conditioned into whatever my theoretical master desires, moreso than any other part of the slave fantasy.

Though I more prefer the idea of obedience being an automatic reflex at the end of the process, rather than obedience for the sake of getting a reward or some sense of pressure.

>>7381614
Well there's also how your natural response to certain stimulants will alter based on association, like a certain sound will give you goosebumps in anticipation.
>>7381005
>For switches: Are you dom and sub fantasies segregated from each other, or do you ever get into role-reversal scenarios? Where you're a former slave owner who's now enslaved, or vice versa.

I'm not sure if it counts, but I like the idea of being a slave that was kidnapped by somebody else, and then, eventually she sells me to traffickers, but because they can tell I'm an illegally acquired slave, they guess that she didn't tell anybody where she was going/what she was doing and add her to their quarry. So now despite my former Mistress being just as powerless as me, and the malice in Her eyes being replaced with fear, I am still incredibly intimidated by Her, due to Her strict training and punishments

Also I guess I did like that pastebin about the girl who joins the army as translator for an elf prisoner, and ends up becoming the elf's servant once she escapes.

>>7380659
Why do you find sub head space more interesting? Funny that it's what appeals to you despite inserting as a dominant, when you do insert.

Why do you always role-play as a male when you're happy with girl on girl scenarios? Why is lesbian slave planet lesbian if you don't dislike having males in your fantasies the rest of the time?

so i just got together with a girl ive been having sex for over a year now. we're totally into reoleplay (mostly daddy and dominant play)
we both like each other beyond sex but its defenetly where we connect the best.
were both into s&m and dominance play but she has no experience in devotion (she enjoys getting forced a lot) and allthough i love it id like to build something more stable and well go test our limits so obviously i was thinking of a master slave relationship.
untill now ive only had rough sex but never had a slave.
i would be very interested in a slaves perspective and her / his motivation. i want to understand it in order to be able to use it. anyone up for a chat on it?

>>7381531
>http://hentai-image.com/image/artist-lamb-34-new-pictures/

There's more images on sadpanda: https://exhentai.org/g/1006826/d47c4580dd/

>>7381140
The new girl is paired with an experienced, well-trained girl. She was heterosexual before but will soon learn to find solace in the other girl as she adapts to being a slave. She is tearful and frightened but the well-trained girl kisses her on the cheek to relax her. She will soon associate the other girl's pretense with comfort and safety and will long to be placed back in contact with her if they are separated.

>You've had tour slave girl for a little over three months.
>She no longer tries to escape or hurt you, and she obediently does her chores everyday.
>she still has a fierce attitude though. Constantly scowling and making quips. She still resists your attempts to touch her.
>one day however she's unusually quiet and seems to be nervous. She doesn't cause a single problem.
>later that day, you're sitting by yourself in your study when she walks in.
>she's wearing the cute outfit you bought for her, but she refused to touch it until now.
>she tugs anxiously at her collar and begins to speak. "Um... master, I know your probably busy... but..."

Finish the story /d/

Couldn't find a suitable pic.

>>7381838
Yep, that's how it can go down. Unfortunately, too much attachment can also lead to bad behavior, such as unwelcome tantrums when their lover gets taken away, which runs the risk of the other punishments mentioned in >>7380684 so the experienced ones have to take care that she teaches the new ones how to properly behave.

I like to think about two muted slaves getting affectionate with each other, communicating through eye contact and expressions.

>>7381850
>I like to think about two muted slaves getting affectionate with each other, communicating through eye contact and expressions.
And physical contact! They might not be able to move much but they can still lie together and touch, lick, kiss, etc.

>>7381860
Yes, of course, I had assumed that was a given. That's probably the cutest shit you can get out of my amputee slave paradise.

And then there's the tragic shit. Here's a little story. A slave gets taken away, rented out for a while. Her lover goes apeshit, desperate to get her back. As a consequence, she gets lobotomized. When the slave finally does get returned to her, she's reunited with a shadow of her former lover that doesn't even recognize her. Unable to handle this, she goes nuts, and eventually has to be lobotomized too. Their memories gone, the two live out the rest of their days together, yet unable to truly meet again.

Ah, tragic romance between slaves is the best. isn't it?

>>7381849
>See, I told you you'd eventually come to love me, I interrupt her
>she blushes prettily
>You were so right about me, master. You knew me so much better than I knew myself
>I motion her to come to me
>she smiles and falls to my embrace
>steamy sex ensues
>As I begin to orgasm, I hold her body close to mine
>Before I can tell what is happening she has put a screwdriver though my ear, killing me instantly
>Serves you right rapist scum. Did you think I'd ever forgive you?
>she says as she keeps putting the screwdriver through my corpse, crying from the mix of pressure and final relief
>she spits on my face, still locked in an expression of pleasure mixed with confusion
>she removes the bondage, blindfolds and assorted equipment from the rest of my slavegirls
>they carry my quadamps away from my manor
>by the time my body is found, they will have already caught the first ship going to a system that doesn't recognise slavery.

>>7381849
>I tell her to calm herself, to speak clearly. If i don't like what she has to say i can always beat her.
>"It's...um, my room has been very cold the last few days...and I remembered your offer of letting me sleep with you..."
>Remind her that she doesn't deserve such a reward.
>I...I understand... I know i've been... difficult... but... I-I'm willing to be good now master, I promise!
>Agree to consider it... if she can prove this proclaimed loyalty.
>She slowly approaches and kneels down at my feet, her face right in front of my crotch.
>She tries to offer herself to me, but i interrupt her by simply sliding down my pants.
>She takes my member in her hands and begins to pleasure it with her tongue and mouth. Her technique is awkward and barely pleasant, but at least she's doing it willingly.
>I eventually cum, it splatters across her face. She flinches back, initially trying to clean herself only to stop and return to a polite seat, my seed still on her face.
>She further offers her body to me, but i've seen enough. She's been a good girl.
>Tell her to take a bath - a warm one, give her five more minutes than usual.
>She arrives at my room, still wet. She moves towards me and my bed still nervous.
>Stop, this is not place for you. You will sleep there." I point to a small couch in the corner. I've set up a pair of pillows and a thick blanket.
>She looks dissapointed for a quick moment, but remembers that it's still a far cry better than her damp cold cell.
"Th-thank you master." She bows to me before worming her way under the covers.
"You're welcome. But I better not hear a peep out of you, and this is only for tonight. We'll see about your further treatment based on your future performance."
>"Of course master. I will try my hardest."

>>7381699
>i would be very interested in a slaves perspective and her / his motivation.
I've been in a relationship with my current girlfriend for a total of six years now. Four years ago, we decided to take it a step further from our usual roleplaying around and act out the slave fantasy a bit more often and outside of bed. This happened because we are pretty much a perfect match in regards to what we like. I enjoy the discipline, she enjoys having control over me. She is a person who has helped me through depression and anxiety, and I love her from the bottom of my heart.
So my motivations I suppose are that I enjoy being disciplined and following made up rules. I was a lazy slob as a teenager, and I suppose that's one point where my parents simply did not raise me good enough. Maybe that's why I get a kick out of harsh orders and punishments? In any case, my second motivation is getting to see her have the fun she wants. Her eyes gleam with lust and excitement before a punishment, and I believe she is even happier than I am when we decide to try out taking another step.

I guess you can summ up my motivations with
>I love her
and
>I get to live out my fantasies

>>7382230
>I suppose that's one point where my parents simply did not raise me good enough. Maybe that's why I get a kick out of harsh orders and punishments?
oh god me too. I guess this fetish is explained now.

>>7381820

Thanks sempai. Tried searching e-h earlier, only gallery I found was smaller than the one I linked.

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>>7381694
I guess the best way I can put it is that because sub girls are what I find attractive they're what I focus the most attention on. I do have a slight preference towards lezdom, but who's on top isn't as important to me as who's on bottom. Male, female, or genderless tentacle monster are all fine for filling the dom position, as long as they're dominating sexy girls.

When role-playing it just feels more natural for a character I'm going to be referring to as "I" to be male.

>>7382459
Huh, fascinating that a very heterosexual focus ends up leading to lesbian scenes.

Do you have an email or other contact for potential rp or talking about ideas along the lines of LSP and general feedback on your stories?

>>7373566
Generally I want he slave system to be small thing - accepted or not, legal or not. I suppose I could write some sci-fi environment where it's everybody's kink for some reason but slave societies are just too crap for a reasonably advanced society.

I like the semilegal and tolerated due to contact networks angle in general.

I write from both master and slave viewpoints and try to stay realistic-ish except for whatever conceit I use to excuse things, or and scifi/fantasy angle.

I think strangers fit me better - or rather, the slavery grows from the initial meeting, not from an established relationship.

Voluntary, seduced or flat out involuntary can all be fine. It has to be hot to me and make enough sense, again to me.

Suffering, comfort, moving from one to the other, it's all good.

>>7382778
I do love him, you know. You might not know it looking it him, but I do.

We've been together for some time now. For our fifth anniversary I got him his final round of major surgery. That was a bit longer from when I actually took him in, I'm counting from his last orgasm and my edging wasn't perfect the first three or so years.

Of course it was he who got punished. It helped with his holding back. So much fun. I don't understand the whole "Owners don't suck cock" thing. I sucked him and I had him fuck me, and it was great. Nine inches of thick cock with an anesthesized head. It's a treasure and I'll miss it.

Years of training and dieting him down to five feet eight, (six in heels and he was rarely out of heels) bringing out the pony in him. He was pretty even then, though the preventive Botox work made him look vacant. Immobile face, plump lips. I didn't want his face to wrinkle up in training and body work.

His skin is so clear, lightly tanned and hairless. I killed every hair on his body, one by one, as he twitched. Practiced on some rentals, then pulled all his teeth and all his nails. He couldn't really defend himself in the first place, looking like a breastless supermodel now, if with man hands and face, and narrow hips.

I had plans for those.

Running and pulling for years, whining as the dildos grew ever larger, pelvis widening to make him more feminine. Pumping his nipples and small breasts, aided by small doses of hormones. I wanted him male, locked in his new body, and I got what I wanted.

Stricter and stricter with his arms until he could endure a reverse prayer armbinder for a week, though his arms were emaciated now. His first breast implants gradually being pumped up below the modest tissue I'd cultivated. Face and body growing more and more like the supermodel I'd obsessed on so long ago and that I'd seen hiding under that pretty young boy's skin.

>>7382811

I'd cheat with the breasts, though. I'd keep him slim but I wanted him to look down and see at least an F-cup on a slim, corseted frame.

Hair far down his back now, full lips bound in a smile when his mouth isn't gagged. Slim neck, defined shoulders, tortured arms with those incongrous mittened hands sticking out of the armbinder. The massive dildo sticking out of him, held in by a strap, big pumped cock dangling ahead of him, half hard.

He's running in reverse prayer almost all the time now, his second set of implants growing. I think I'll stop at a G-cup, it's grotesque in just the right way. His face and larynx are done now, and some minor cosmetic work. His neck and back, slim and beautiful. Eventually I won't need to keep his breasts bound. I've kept his cock filled for a long time now, with ever thicker silicone sounds. A mock, erect horsecock.

And a fun sex toy too.

And now it's finally time.

He gets his final, molded implants. I won't be able to train him very hard now.

When he's recovered and training hard, beautiful breasts held in spiked leather and supported by the corset, I let him go longer with the reverse prayer. And then we go back for surgery.

It takes months for him to recover and find his new balance without arms. There aren't even stumps left. But he's been running for years with immobile arms, so he does well.

I am seriously tempted to allow him an orgasm.
I'll be needing a new project soon, and I could use a fuckmachine slave. But I can just put a strapon on him.

I edge him for hours, every night for weeks and take my pleasure from him. I've milked him before, and I work my way up, finally keeping him twitching and dripping for days that I devote to him.

I fuck him several times, making sure his cockhead is insensitive. It's good. It's very good.

He doesn't come once. Eight years.

>>7382842

And then he goes in again. I don't just have him castrated. I put him through what is basically a sex change procedure, leaving him with a fuckable urethra to compensate for his ass only being good for extreme fisting and dildo work.

It's been eleven years. I've worked on some other slaves, helping friends out and for sale, but Naomi here is my masterpiece. A cisgender, heterosexual male turned into the ponygirl slave of a woman.

I can feel myself losing interest now that we're done though, and I have a young girl in mind. But it's not like I haven't had offers, to sell or rent.

All's well that ends well.

>>7382811
>>7382842
How do you anesthesize his cock?

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>>7382618
Never thought of it as anything unusual. Guys being into lesbians is a cliche.

I don't really want to be posting any contact info on 4chan. I'm usually around in these threads though.

>>7382848
There's a fun trick that will work IRL and hopefully hasn't too many health hazards - anasthesizing cream. Saw a demo many years ago that involved viagra and that, every time I went back to that room he was still being used. Fortunately it wore off in time, I'd say that would be a real risk.

>>7373566
For me, it's probably control (of oneself as well as others and situations)

As a slave, I'd like to be used and not have to decide anything or think; completely giving myself up to their desires and whims

As a master, it would be about the mind break and eventually ending up with a slave you could "trust" not to betray you. Also, the slave eventually enjoying the role is important to me

>>7382933

>https://xhamster.com/movies/1121115/released_from_chastity_with_numbing_cream.html

The only trick is that you need a condom, otherwise the cream will be transferred during sex and you'll go numb too.

>>7381614

> Though I more prefer the idea of obedience being an automatic reflex at the end of the process, rather than obedience for the sake of getting a reward or some sense of pressure.

The idea of my fantasy is to internalize the thought process. So initially, the slave may think they are just doing it to get rewarded or to avoid punishment, the association between reward and punishment build up to be absolute and subconscious.

> Well there's also how your natural response to certain stimulants will alter based on association, like a certain sound will give you goosebumps in anticipation.

Exactly.

Continuing the story where I left off...

>>7380351

Stephanie, Emily, and Alexandra stood before me, the last of the paperwork signed and their new cybernetic neural implants freshly installed. Hana stood behind me, dressed professionally. "Well, I hope all of you know what you are getting into... just in case all the legalese confused you, you've been hired for kinky sex work for an extended time." That comment got a relaxed chuckle from Emily and a nervous laugh from Alexandra. "Your new neural implants will let me monitor your vitals and responses in realtime, it is kind of a thing of mine" I said, intentionally underplaying the potency of the implants. "So, just to give you some starter rules, you may not speak unless spoken to, you will eat only the food I serve you, you will wear only the clothes I give you. All of these rules will be automatically enforced by a small electric shock, with possible additional punishment decided by me. For now, your only clothes will be these simple sackcloth robes. I have some initial work assignments around my mansion that Hana will explain to you." With that, I left and headed toward my office. I pulled up the information I had private detectives dig up on them as well as the information from the implants.

>>7383805

Everything seemed in order with Alexandra and Stephanie: Alex should be willing to do a reasonable amount to ensure she had the money to maintain her former lifestyle, and Stephanie should be even more desperate to ensure the conditions of the loan stayed met. Neither had any modifications to interfere with their implants. Emily, on the other hand, seemed to have a few problematic issues... for one, she had a lawyer on retainer and paid for in advance. It seems her career as a prostitute had been quite successful financially. She seems to have taken out intentionally depraved clients in order to test herself, but on the other hand she has defaulted on a job once or twice when the clients went too far... checking further, it seems one of the clients she rejected was my host from the party... I guess he was hoping for some revenge by proxy. This meant that Emily would be hard to break, and if I did manage to break her, she might be willing to renege on her contract immediately. Additionally, Emily's neural modification were more extensive than she had disclosed, I would need extensive raw stimulus input in order to overcome them. On the other hand.... I quickly sent an email to my lawyer in order to see if my plan for Emily would work...

>>7383847

As I finished my email, I noted that Alexandra had already attempted to talk to both Emily and and Stephanie. I sent a message through her implants asking her to come to my office. A few minutes later she stood in front of me. "Alex," I asked "do you know what you did wrong?". "I talked without permission---- ow!" A shock hit her just as she stopped speaking. "Please refer to me by an appropriate title Alex. Start over." I said. "Yes sir, I talked without permission, master" she said with an awkward expression. "And do you think those little shocks where enough of a reminder?" I continued. "No sir, I deserve additional punishment?... master" she replied, even as her face said that she disagreed with her own words. "Yes you do, luckily I have something gentle in mind, to help you obey better." I replied. "Yes sir?" she waited for me to continue. "I will just do a little bit of hypnosis to help you concentrate." With that she relaxed... she must be knowledgeable enough to know hypnosis is quite limited in what it can do... unfortunately for her, I would be cheating with some of the advanced functions of her neural implant, which would be quite outside of her expectations.

Now close your eyes, relax and listen to my voice... I gave Alex a bunch of instructions that follow the typical format of hypnosis, inductions and trigger words... not that any of it had any particular effect, as I could tell through the neural implant. Meanwhile, as Alex had her eyes closed and I droned on, I quickly typed in some commands to activate a routine for the implant I had prepared in advance. I set the implant to block out all sights and sounds outside of her current job. Anything not related to serving me would appear as featureless gray fog or indistinct white noise. If Alex was more knowledgeable about the latest implant effects, she would recognize how powerful the implant was and likely renege on the contract right there...

>>7383860

With a little luck though... she would attribute it to the hypnosis and think the effect was much weaker than it actually was.

As I finished the BS hypnosis and instructed Alex to open her eyes... "What the fuck ---ahhh" The electric shock interrupted her as she tried to complain. "It is just ordinary hypnosis, entirely the result of the power of suggestion and your imagination." I explained. Alex stayed silent. "It seems it was unexpectedly effective, could you describe it to me?" I inquired. "Yeah, I mean uh, Yes sir. It's like the rest of the world doesn't even exist except in relation to you. It all just seems empty and gray. I mean, I can see the desk when I need to focus where you are sitting, but I can't see anything else..." she waited for me to comment. "Huh, guess I'm better at hypnosis than I thought. Don't worry, I can remove it at any time and it will wear off naturally either way" I smoothly lied. "Anyway, back to work with you." Alex shuffled out slowly... was there something else? "Any other questions for me?" I asked. She responded "Yes sir, um uh... my name is Alexandra you see, I don't really go by Alex-" I interrupted "and I like calling you Alex. Do you like when I call you Alex?". She hesitated then grimaced "Yes sir, Alex is fine." With that she left.

I really needed to refine the implant's procedures... with a few mental commands I should be able to make her implant give her slight shifts in mood and little jolts of emotions. Combined with her willingness to lie to please me... I should be able to gaslight her about her own feelings. But before that I need to finish my plans for Emily.

(To be continued: Next time, breaking Emily.)

>>7378175
>>7378572
You know you're basically murdering your slave if you put them in checked baggage, right? The temperatures and oxygen levels in those non-pet approved bays would absolutely kill someone.

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>>7383905
Obviously you would have to tell them it was live cargo, like you would with a pet.

Though in a world where slavery was legal, planes might just have a section of super cramped seats intended for slave passengers.

>>7381886
That's just fucking depressing.

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>>7384496
Yeah... it would make a good parable to tell the slaves to keep them in line though. Honestly though, if a couple was too cute, I'd probably go easy on them and let them get away with shit all the time. I'm too easily swayed by the cuteness of quad amputees.

I like to think about them toppling over and crying out for help sitting back up and it just makes me want to give them a kiss and comfort them, if only for a few moments. It'd probably depend on my mood though.

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>>7379651
>Question for Doms
Ideally I'd get both. Make the skilled one my maid/personal assistant, and keep the pretty one as a dedicated sex toy. If I could only afford one, I'd take the skilled slave. An "average" looking girl can be very hot when she's eager to please.

>>7381005
>For Doms
Punishments would mostly be about humiliation and making her feel powerless. There would be some light corporal punishment, but the pain itself wouldn't be the main point of that. It would be about conditioning her to feel vulnerable and helpless.

Another punishment would be tying her in a lewdly exposed position (pic related), and leaving her like that for an hour or two while I go about my business.

From time to time I'd give a slave some small immediate reward for good behavior. Like feeding her a chocolate, or making her cum. Consistent long term obedience would earn her privileges and (slightly) more freedom. Free time to herself. Some say in her own wardrobe. Maybe even a small allowance.

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>>7379651
>Question for Doms: Would you value looks or practical skills more in a slave? Suppose one slave for sale is average looking but can cook, sew, and do various other domestic chores skillfully. The other is drop dead gorgeous, but has almost no experience doing anything besides being a sex toy. Which would you rather have?
I would take in the average looking slave.
>For subs: What would it take to break down your resistance and make you accept your enslavement? Or do you think you would take to the role immediatly?
I would obey with enough fright, but I can't imagine myself accepting the situation. There would have to happen something unpredictable like stockholm syndrome, love or depression.
>For switches: Would you treat your own slave(s) any differently than you would want to be treated as a slave?
I would select incredibly outrageous outfits for my slaves and train them to move or otherwise perform their actions in perverted positions. It would seriously take some breaking-in for me to obey these orders of my own because I would simply be too embarrassed at first is what I can imagine.
>>7384459
>Though in a world where slavery was legal, planes might just have a section of super cramped seats
>seats
No.

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>>7384883
Honestly seats are probably much more practical than stuffing them in tiny cages. At least for long flight. They'd be in pretty bad shape after being trapped in an unnatural position for 8 or 9 hours. Plus the consequences of no bathroom access. Maybe you don't care about their suffering, but you'd still have to deal with the fact they're a mess and too stiff to do much after the flight.

I suppose a better solution would be cages that are wide enough to move in but short up to be stacked vertically. Although that still doesn't address the hygiene issue.

>>7384459
>>7384883
>seats
>no
Yeah, stackable vacbeds would be the way to go.
>>7385278
>hygene
Funnels pressed right against the relevant bits. Maybe a small water hose that sprays them at intervals.

>>7385619
This guy has the right idea. If an efficient space-saving method of transporting slaves during travel doesn't exist, then of course people would make one.

>>7385619
>Maybe a small water hose that sprays them at intervals.
This guy gets it.

>>7385643
I think it depends on the type of travel and the type of slave. I would think most people would want their slave to be there to attend to them when traveling. Companion slaves would also likely accompany their owners.

The slaves that would get stuffed in luggage would be those that are not useful at attending to their master and not valued for their conversational skills.

I would imagine that the prime concern would be compact design. It would need to leave only enough movement space to avoid permanent damage to the slave's body - her mind wouldn't be a concern since the type of slave that gets stuffed back there doesn't have anything valuable in her head.

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Unless a setting has total enslavement of one gender/race/species, there would need to be a visual sign of who is a slave. How do you envision a slave's status being indicated? Would all slaves wear collars? Would there be a particular way slaves dress? Would they wear clothing at all? Would there be standardized slave brands or tattoos?

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>>7386229
The explosive collars from the Fallout games come to mind.

>>7386229
I like the idea of slaves without shoes, but it would unfortunately prevent me from having them wear high heels from time to time.

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>>7386229
collars. it would even be taboo for regular folk to wear chokers, anything other than a cloak or medically necessary thing would be hanging just past the collarbone. slaves would not be allowed to wear turtlenecks or other things that could obscure the collar unless medically necessary or for safety (ie hazmat suit in a fall out area or the like). Slaves who are well liked would be allowed to wear cloth ribbons on their neck like a fashion accessory. they developed into scarves, which are also a form of neck warmer and available to slaves and not free persons, who still wear mufflers and coifs. Is common for young free girls who own a well liked and obedient slave to use a scarf a bit like a leash, signifying who owns the slave. Collars are still common, and there are even scarves which hook onto collars to serve as a more effective leash and provide a slave with a more reliable and less likely to shift in day to day labor garnment.

It is considered risque for a slave to wear a mantle even if it exposes her collar. definately not done in polite society but you might see a few strangers doing it. it doesn't raise attention from any authorities as long as the collar is present but many dining establishments that allow slaves will not allow one wearing a mantle or muffler. A full cloak is a different story. Most slave cloaks however are made to expose the neck, and look old fashion, compare to many raincoats that have a high neck to protect against rain entering the clothing.

>>7386574
I don't get this honestly. while shoes are bad for you, modern society necessitates them due to all the garbage and sharp things everywhere. there should be a compromise between healthier feet and less perforated feet.

>>7386240
I've never been a fan of the exploding collars idea, because it only makes sense on the surface - once I thought about it a bit a pretty obvious flaw appeared.

That is, it relies entirely on the slave's fear of death to be functional. In the process of breaking a slave its possible (likely even) that they'll become suicidal and at that point the collar is a liability being such an obvious way out that can be triggered at any point the slave desires. Not only that a particularly spiteful slave could abuse it to kill/hurt the master or damage other property by triggering it at appropriate times.

In my mind an exploding collar is only really useful as a stopgap measure when a slave is first captured, to get them to a location where something more reliable can be implemented

>>7386929
How about having a slave wear only a mantle ?

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>>7381348

Men are reprogrammed to suddenly view all women as nothing but chattle, to the extreme that from men's new perspective, women have ALWAYS been pets/slaves/livestock but they've somehow set themselves free and now it's mens' responsibility to put females back into their place. Men retain their basic personalities and affections for the women in their lives, only now instead of viewing them as wives, daughters and friends, men can suddenly only view these women as property run amok.

Of course, this leads to all kinds of horror stories for women as they realize that the men in their lives have been reprogrammed overnight, and womens' shock at all this puts them on the defensive just long enough for men to start enslaving them (well, enslaving them *again* from men's point-of-view), with plans for slave processing centers drawn up in every large town and city in the world, the establishment of governmental bodies regulating the sale and purchase of women, and mandatory summons being distributed to all women and girls demanding they report to slave processing centers once they're built.

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>>7386229
>Would all slaves wear collars?

Yes at all times when out of the house the slave is always on a leash as well

>Would there be a particular way slaves dress?

Yes slaves are only allowed to wear or mix and match skimpy, tight, reveling outfits only. Coats are allowed for colder climates but has the word slave wrote in large bright letters on the back of the coat and on the front as well

Would there be standardized slave brands or tattoos?

Yes once bought the new owner can pick from a wide selection of slave tattoos. Must have at least 2 but no limit on how many as long as the owner can pay for it.

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>>7381348

After seeing the first episode of The Handmaid's Tail, I'm wondering what laws my fellow anons would pass that would strip all women (or at least all breeding-aged women) of their rights.

Forced public nudity for all women? Mandatory collars & tags? Shock chips that can be activated if a woman denies any request from an anon?

My first guess is that abolishment of all human rights, reclassification as animals and mandatory inspection and redistribution seem like the first steps towards an interesting tomorrow.

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>>7385619
>>7385643
>>7386078
I think you guys would like this story.

http://unnaturallybound.blogspot.com/2009/03/miss-brown-is-incarcerated.html

That said, it is not framed as having anything to do with slavery, but the prisoner containment cages described are a pretty good example of something that appeals to me personally.

With that said, there are a few impracticalities. For one thing, the constant compression would cause tissue damage to the prisoner's joints, not to mention that the hygiene situation described is completely ridiculous (I would just have a trough underneath the rows of cages to collect excretions). Otherwise I like the idea.

In terms of transport, such a system could be used to hold slaves in a single cabin. I'd probably handwave away the tissue damage issue by saying that slaves are genetically engineered to be undamaged by long-term mobility restriction.

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>>7386240
Wouldn't shock collars be better? So you can use it to punish or disable the slave without killing them.

>>7386574
There could be "slave heels." Just stiletto heels and ankle straps, without the rest of the shoe.

>>7387086

Sauce on that pic you motherfucker.

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I like to fantasize about becoming a slave, voluntarily or involuntarily, and becoming the property of a master or brothel. Relinquishing all decision making from my life and becoming a commodity for sexual pleasure.

Unfortunately I can easily see how it will lose it's appeal pretty quickly in real life.

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>>7388403
How tolerable it would be long term would probably depend a lot on what's done with you when you're not being fucked. Are you put away somewhere to await your next use? Are you made to do chores? Are you treated like a pet?

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>>7387046
they must have some kind of collar, even if it's only a tied small sash around their neck.

>>7388216
>Wouldn't shock collars be better?
Didn't really work in Futurama, so...

>>7379651
>Which would you rather have?

The latter.

One can always train a slave.

>>7373053
What is the source?

Thanks!

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>>7388385

My main nigga Sue Dunn Emm.

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>>7388815
she is pretty fucking great, even if her dolls are creepy as hell.

>>7373566
I am a switch. I go either way.
I enjoy it because it is an arousal for control and power, giving or recieveing. It's not like it's flat out sadism or anything. The minute that there is any indication that it isn't an act and that something is wrong the boner is gone. But, so long as that doesn't occur, the level or realism doesn't affect me, so long as I know, internally, that it's all an act.

>>7373053
Guys what is the fucking god damn source?

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>>7390781
if you did a reverse image search like anything other than a goddamned newfag, you'd know nobody knows, like the artist is maybe someone going by 'Bubblegum,' but that's it.

>>7372857
>Besides, I like the idea of well educated sex slaves. Valued for their expertise in intellectual/professional fields as well their cock sucking.

Exactly right. Oh, there will be some thralls in the basement for my more base pleasures (and as a constant reminder/threat to those allowed to play at humanity) but having a few cores slaves who are reliable and useful for more than just their wholes seems much more rewarding to me. Of course that does make maintaining discipline a bit harder but that's why these upper-class slaves will be drawn entirely from reputable slave breeding and rearing facilities.

>>7380684
Eh, there's no such thing as a bad slave owner. You own these items and use their bodies to maximize your own enjoyment. That's all that ownership is about. Now your penchants and techniques might not be the classiest but I would say you've narrowed down the idea to its barest principles.

Though of course I might be biased since I largely agree with and enjoy your ideas. I'd take a bit of a different tack with it but the outline is the same. Buy slaves, expect obedience, remove humanity until slaves becomes obedient. I'm not too into training beyond educating new purchases on my expectations and allowing slaves to recognize, admit, and repent for an thoughts or actions they may have that I disapprove of.

I see a fair bit on elven slaves/slaves with a much higher life expectancy, but never the other way round, how come there doesn't seem to be as much appeal for knowing you and any descendants that your Master/Mistress orders you to have, would be all be the property of the same Master/Mistress, and the parent slave raises them to be obedient to a fault so as not to incur the owner's wrath.

>>7382230
What kind of orders and punishments are talking out of interest, is it just domestic duties, or is there more to it than that?

>>7390983
>remove humanity until slaves becomes obedient
This should more precisely say "remove humanity until slave is no longer disobedient."

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>>7391348
I think the role reversal of a "superior" race like elves being reduced to slavery is what appeals to people about it. Basically the same reason that a powerful queen or strong warrior being enslaved is appealing.

A long lived master race with a short lived slave race is probably more plausible though. It also opens up some interesting possibilities. Not only could the slaves been trained from birth, they could be selectively bred for particular traits like dogs breeds.

I could imagine a world where the dominant civilization is ruled by elves, and free humans mostly live in primitive tribal societies. The elves regard "feral" humans as nothing more than violent savages, but keep domesticated humans as servants and pets.

>>7377271
What is this, a picture for ANTS???

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>>7391608
Been thinking about this concept more, and want to elaborate on it a bit.

Feral humans mostly live in hunter-gatherer tribes. The most advanced human societies practice some basic agriculture. They fear elves, and will typically either flee or attack when confronted with pointy eared visitors.

A healthy feral human in the prime of life is a lot stronger than an elf. Even the females typically have more muscle than a elf male. Humans also have greater physical endurance. On the other hand, they are relatively slow and clumsy compared to elves. Most importantly, humans lack a talent for magic.

Elves are naturally magical. Every elf learns at least a handful of spells as part of their basic education, and continue to accumulate magical knowledge over their long lives. Which typically lasts seven or eight centuries, and can exceed a thousand years. They have built an advanced civilization based on magic rather than technology. They have great power, knowledge, and creature comforts, while maintaining a sustainable balance with nature. To most elves, their superiority over humans is self-evident.

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>>7391882
Continued:

Long ago elves began taking human captives, and selectively breeding them into a more docile slave race. The resulting domesticated humans comes in many different specific breeds. Broadly speaking those breeds can be divided into two categories.

The first are slaves bred for strength. Even bigger and stronger than feral humans, but they also tend to be simple minded. The most extreme examples are ogre-like hulks. They're mostly used for labor. Some breeds were designed to be war beasts, but they aren't as effective in that role as one might expect. They become confused too easily in the chaos of battle.

The other type are those bred for beauty and grace. They have slender, more elf-like bodies. Though no elf would mistake such humans for one of their own. These are the slaved that serve close to their owners, as domestic servants and pets. They are no less intelligent than their masters and mistresses, but are indoctrinated to see themselves as inferior.

Using human slaves for sex is perfectly acceptable. It's not even regarded as cheating on a spouse or fiance. Humans and elves are separate species, unable to crossbreed. So there is no danger of awkward pregnancies. Elves of both genders tend to prefer female slaves for their bed warmers. Human women better fit the elven ideal of beauty than men.

>>7391895
This is my fantasy fetish

Actually Elder Scrolls lore is a lot like that. Way before the events of the games elves were the only advanced civilization and humans lived in primitive tribes

There are some examples of elves enslaving humans as an inferior race and I've always wanted to expand more on that

>>7391348
>What kind of orders and punishments are talking out of interest, is it just domestic duties, or is there more to it than that?
Domestic duties aswell as sexual. Punishments usually involve my living standards worsening for a couple of days. Shameful restrictions like having to eat from a bowl on the ground or just a whipping. I believe her being able to order me around and coordinate my life like that is what really gets her going in this relationship.
However, there are no senseless punishments in our relationship. She's not actually a sadist and senseless pain does nothing for me. On the flipside they're not lax either, when they do happen. I usually start crying a little, because (lets face it) I am a wimp.

>>7381348
Slavery is a completely voluntary process. Anyone who no longer wants to be a slave can opt out immediately, if they so wish. The only stipulations that revolve around owning a slave are that you must provide proper food, water and shelter to them, as well as provide health care. I think you would be surprised what people would endure for a free meal and a place to rest their heads.

>>7387598
Like, if we had some kind of magic wish that could rewrite reality anyway we'd like?

I'd start off on something small, like suddenly make it so that all women have to now wear collars and I.D. tags (with women forced to report to new I.D. centers that have also suddenly appeared in every town), and then build up from there.

Even worse for women, guys are reprogrammed to think that any of the changes I make to reality are the way things have always been and don't understand it when women (understandably) lose their shit at this sudden reality shift.

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>>7381348
Those who on some level desire to be enslaved (like many of the anons here) give off a sort of mental aura, signaling that desire to anyone near them. There's no way to hide it, except avoiding other people entirely. Any attempts to deny it are ignored, because everyone can sense the truth. A consensus forms that for these "natural slaves" freedom is a burden, and stripping them of it is a kindness.

>>7392737

> Anyone who no longer wants to be a slave can opt out immediately, if they so wish

Absoloutely disgusting.

>>7389462
Word, same. I have a really distinct line between fantasy and reality. I fucking love the fantasy, but am not even slightly interested in the reality. I think this is something a lot of people talk about in the scene, especially doms but for me it goes both ways (as a switch). Ironically a huge part of the fantasy is trust.

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>>7392737
>Slavery is a completely voluntary process. Anyone who no longer wants to be a slave can opt out immediately, if they so wish.
So it's basically just BDSM?

>>7394392
I think my idea would actually work in the modern world, unlike a lot of the more fetish ideas that have been presented in this thread. That said, I suppose we could make it a semiannual system, where every other year you could opt out instead. Of course, during this time you could create a dependency on you to the point that they would freak out at the idea of leaving.

What do you do with your slaves when they become old and older and less attractive? Or when a master dies and leaves behind a slave that is old.

Let's presume a world where sexual slavery is public and open.

I would imagine the business starts to take this into account. Perhaps old slaves become something like trainers to indoctrinate newer slaves how to behave.

>>7394840
>I would imagine the business starts to take this into account. Perhaps old slaves become something like trainers to indoctrinate newer slaves how to behave.
I could definitely see a matronly slave putting the new girls through their paces. Being harsh with them both because she knows they need it, and because she's envious of their youth and desirability.

It would also make sense for older slaves to play an administrative role in households with several slaves.

>>7394801
I like to imagine a modern like setting for slavery, I'd imagine the woman who are the part of society that live like pets/slaves to men but and can kind of opt out but not when ever they want.

In my world many free woman act like scholars, they study science, make the art, write the world's books and produce their movies and tv. Most of this are made my woman for woman. They are raised in something like a buddhist mind set.

Women kind of see men as low to them, Men does the farm, construction, and police/military work and other hard labor. Because of this men die more often then woman.

To help control the men and due to their Buddhist mind set woman have this policy that if they what a to with a man, have his children, that they become that man's pet. They see becoming a pet status as purifying them selves as they strip naked and humble them selves.

The only way a woman can become free again is they become removed from ownership either by the man giving them up/dies or taken away due to abuse by their owner. Once removed they can choose not to become a pet again. Any female children that are born under petship becomes a pet and is raised so as property. Men can also sell or transfer one pet from one man to another.

Young pets growing up are either educated by their mother and or master (If he wants). Man can also send their pets to care/play facility that educates pets as much as they can.

>>7394932
>men can sell and transfer
this will mean very few will end up in monestaries and men will end up having all the power on fields like art, science, and scholarly

>>7391895
I hadn't really thought of it as a communal ownership before, if it was I imagine it would be ever so slightly similar to the savages in Brave New World, there is a large paddock containing the primitive humans which is vast enough for them not to entirely notice they're boxed in, and rivers, trees, and some livestock, along with some low-danger, yet fairly meaty wild animals like boars for them to hunt.

To the more advanced elves, this is a sort of zoo to watch these savages in their mostly-wild habitat. I say mostly wild because some of the elves pretend to be shamans, in the settlement t better shepherd their flock.
This involves things like making the main language elvish, so they can understand their new owner if they're ever purchased, having the humans see wearing slave collars as tradition and as a rites of passage, along with chastity locks for men so the elves have full control over the breeding, and making them worship elven deities so that the humans see themselves as naturally more subservient to elves.

Lastly there are brochures, and information about the humans, along with a buying price, to have the human abducted from their camp and serve as the buyer's personal slave instead, and if the natural resources start to diminish the elves will thin out their herd, by rounding up a bunch of humans, and auctioning them off in bulk, so the animals they hunt have a chance to replenish their numbers. As they are already versed in elvish, and been raised to be subservient to the other elves they've seen prior, they are already well-trained despite appearing as uncouth savages to outsiders.

I see everyone talking about societies in which women would be put in slavery, but no one is fantasming about a world in which males would the slaves ?

>>7394948
I assume it's possible to be a pet and still do art and scholarly stuff. It depends on how much freedom a master gives. Like when the man is around the pet does domestic chores and service them sexually if he wants. In her free time or when he leaves the house she pulls out a lab top or tablet and does work on that like writing a book or doing a thesis. If she's allowed to go out on her own there are clubs or loges where woman can gather.

On the other hand their owner could be a bastard and keep their pets locked up with no freedom. But this would risk getting their pets taken away if found out. I still see many people trying this though.

One thing under this set up basically most all females are born into servitude to men because most women given birth would have give themselves to be pets to due so.

Women are find with this idea of girl being born as pets as it emphasize their teaching of advancing them selves. They start off as a lowest child, then man's pet and lover even mother, then earn their freedom and become above man, then advance further. But most ever go beyond being a working pet.

>>7395336
Do you mean solely males, or both males and females?
Because mine are always mixed, but I assume others might be the same as me, in that they're talking predominantly about females because female slaves wold generally be seen as more glamorous, and male ones would be little more than an expendable source of labour, so there wouldn't be the same sort of interaction between the slave and its owner there.

If it's solely male slaves, you're welcome to explain yours, but going by sex, would leave you with some weak owners, and strong slaves, same with the people who do just female slaves

>>7395476
>weak owners, strong slaves
nah anon. Women can be trained and slaves can be broken. A quad amp dude isn't gonna be able to overpower an adult woman.

...besides, having someone who's strong enough to break free but so obedient/willing/broken that they won't is a huge turn on for me.

>>7395336
I can see different types of men for different things. Obviously the strong ones for physical labor, but then every good mistress would also have a few cute houseboys to do the chores and relieve her stress.

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>>7395485
>A quad amp dude isn't gonna be able to overpower an adult woman.
This. Imagining myself as a limbless men enslaved by a weak woman is one of my biggest fetishes.

>>7395336
Plenty of people are.

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>>7394964
I was thinking that the feral humans really are free. The elves don't control them, or even give a damn about them most of the time. They only draw attention when they encroach too close to civilization, or threaten the local ecosystem with over-hunting. Basically like how we feel about wolves.

There would be a niche market for enslaved feral humans. For those who want something a bit exotic and dangerous, or enjoy the challenge of breaking a defiant slave. But those would be the exceptions. Most slaves are from family lines that have been owned and bred by elven masters for many generations.

>>7395485
Yeah, someone so obedient that the bondage is just a formality, because they'all just keep a pose if ordered is actually pretty hot.

Same with like anything else you'd do to a slave that obedient.

>>7395336
Male slavery doesn't turn me on. I like my men to be masters.

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You know, I think I now have a subfetish, for huge dudes getting dominated/owned by small women. Thanks guys.

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>>7392737
>>7394392
marriage?

>>7381408
Put her in a restraint like the one in this vid:

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1225160551

Her attitude should improve after a few months of relying on you for food and basic hygiene.

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Can some edit out the dick

>>7399310

post it in the proper thread (nice pic tho)

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>>7399310
Here you go: one dickless ball carrier

>>7399460

lol thanks but uuuuh that's not what i meant >_< can you put the shackle on her foot and remove the balls?

>>7399646
no

>>7391608
for the non-role reversal, >>7399951

>>7399646
fuck off, you ungrateful swine.

>>7394932
I been seeing some people do storytelling, since my pet slave world is kind of complex socially and bureaucracy with the region and rule on how pets are treated, I think it something that has to be imagined more than explained.

Ami sat on her knees praying in front of a small statue of a woman in wearing a toga with her breasts exposed. She and the other woman prayed in a nice row all of them mostly or fully nude, all with their breasts, buttocks and vagina exposed. The closest thing to clothing any of the women wore where detached sleeves and or socks some with shoes. one women had tube shirt wrapped around her waist they did wear various jewelry. There was also bags or pouches that the women hung off of belts or stapes. All Ami had on was her name collar, some jewelry and belt with a pouch.

The women's nudity was also part of their worship, it honored their female spirits, their Anima by to openly display their woman hood, their breasts and vag openly. This is said to charge the woman's Anima. Being nude specially compared to men who walk around fully dress and often wears bulky armor if in a military or police role is considered humbling to females, the humbling of them is said to help purify their Anima. It also didn't hurt that men also enjoyed the nude female from and is sad to make men more protective.

When she finished her prayer, Ami tosses a couple of used tissue paper into a dish below the statue. The tissue contained her vaginal fluids from her last night's masturbation. The tissues were now dry. Amy picks up the matchbox at the foot of the statue and lights one of the matches. She holds the flame to the tissues allowing them to burn away in the dish.

"Oh Goddess Mother I give you this offering of myself," she says of the tissue paper turns to the ash.

A hooded figure in a purple robes approaches Ami, "May I talk to you Sister Ami in private." The figure says in an old woman's voice.

>>7401994
Ami stands up and walks away with the hooded figure with letter to the back room. Women past a certain age fully cover themselves. When a woman loses her attractiveness she is believed they had reached the point where they reached the peak of their Anima. To show this they cover their nude bodies separating them from their younger females.

"What did you want to talk to me about Grandmother?" Ami asks as they entered the back room.

"I'm worried what about your daughter," the Grandmother replied.

"What's wrong?" Ami said concerned.

"It's been a months since your master died," Grandmother points out, "Well can choose to retire from serving your penitence, you daughter is another issue."

"Your want to know if you can put me and or my daughter on sale?"

"We have our roles to play,"

"Well I'm enjoying my freedom I do feel empty without a master and I don't think it's good for my girl not to have a master to raise her, But there is not a guarantee that Darling and me can be rehomed together."

"As is the way of the world, But you still live your master's house,"

"Yes," Ami replied, "Technically we are has heirs, which brings up another issue as to what to do with the house."

"Then I have a suggestion,"
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>I'll probably do more later

>>7395336
pssh no way fag

I've been wonder how viable it would be to for dandelions to be a food source for slaves. I heard they are a nice rounded food when it come to fiber. protein, minerals. and stuff. You can also eat the whole plant flowers buds, leaves, roots. Plus a plant that's called a weed just seems like a degrading thing to feed to a slave.

I assume they would be easy to grow I'm mass, I mean they can easily take over a yard and I wonder id a couple of house slaves can live off a yard of dandelions. But I assume you just they would have to eat dandelions and something else. I'd rather just feed them dandelions if I could though.

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>>7387598
>>7392773

I'd make that "Handmaid's Tail" typo reality by causing all women to slowly grow animal tails, then live in fear of being transformed even more into animals while religious groups freak out at this being a sign of the end times and mens' rights groups try to use it as an excuse to legally and scientifically re-classify women as non-humans.

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>>7373566
It's armchair psychoanalysis time!

What do you find attractive about the idea of slavery as a setting? Do you imagine it to be an accepted institution, or something happening illegally at the margins of society? What difference does this make to you?
> I like the idea of abducting a man and a woman (I like to have options)

When you imagine yourself as the master or the slave, what attracts you to this role? What do you get out of it?
> The idea of owning another person and having complete control of them is attractive to me because they have no choice and I can do whatever I want to them.
Do you imagine yourself owning or being owned by strangers, or by people who knew you beforehands?
> A random pair
> The woman would be a smaller blonde or brunette... I have to be taller
> The man would be around 17-20 black hair, light color eyes, around 5'-6 ft, he would be around 100-175, not very muscular but still attractive.

Do you imagine yourself or your property to be there voluntarilly or involuntarilly? Why does this matter to you? (and if you like both at different times, what attracts you to either?)

> I would not give them a choice on where they are... I would keep them strapped down in a sound proof room... If they get loud and annoy me I would use an electronic dog trainer with GPS just in case they get out.
Finally: Do you want the slave to suffer or to find comfort in their situation? Why do you think you ultimately want that?
>The woman would suffer... Daily punishments and humiliation.
>The man I would try to comfort I would be nice for a while.... Then turn around and beat the living shit out of him, then rape him.

Introspect to reach enlightenment! It's not like you have anything better to do.

>>7405445
So, I was doing some research in the Dandelion thing, Lettuce plant seems very similar to Dandelions in origin as it's a plant with similar flowers and method of speeding seeds and was basically a weed before humans farmed them.

Still like the idea of slaves eating dandelions as poor man's lettuce.

>>7395485
For some reason I interpreted it as that everybody would get a slave, rather than just the affluent.

>>7397013
I think with a slave like that you'd want to afford them extra freedom so they have the chance to serve you of their own accord would be nice.

>>7395336
I do like the idea of a wealthy woman owning a male slave, who will occasionally bu him female slaves as a treat, like you'd buy a dog a chewtoy.

Obviously the Mistress would have full control over how much access the slave has to his new toy, but no idea where to go with it after a while, like if they're retained, or disposed of afterwards, and if disposed then where to?

>>7380199
Don't know exactly which of their works it's from, but here's the artist's pixiv page.
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=8777326

>>7406524
>If disposed, where to?
If there's a market for slaves, she could just sell them back. A bit cheaper than what they were bought for yeah, but it's easy.

If slavery is illegal/secret then they could just be dumped somewhere or given away to friends.

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A little while ago I was reminded of the movie The Village (M. Night Shyamalan) and it occurred to me that the setting in the movie could be used to facilitate a community that practices slavery.

Spoilers follow, though it's not that great of a movie or anything.

Basically the setting in the movie is a village in the woods in what appears to be the 19th century, except the surrounding woods are inhabited by monstrous creatures. The creatures have a covenant with the humans that as long as they remain within the village and don't cross a certain boundary the monsters will not attack them.

It's later revealed that it's actually in the modern day, and the village elders were using monster suits to fictionalize the threat and keep the populace scared of leaving.

One potential threat to slavery is that it's frequently possible for a slave to escape to freedom. After all, if you can get far enough, it's possible no one would even know that you were supposed to be a slave. In a village that was convinced, however, that there was no outside world - only a dangerous forest populated by terrifying monsters - that option would no longer be available. Slaves would be unlikely to leave themselves to the dangers of the forest, and would remain in the community in which they are known to be slaves.

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>>7394932
I like the direction this is going but I'd put a few twists on it.

Personally I would treat the society as being a little more female supremacist. As such, for a woman to lower herself to submission to men would be seen as a form of degradation. Rather than purification, it would be accepting humiliation just to satisfy one's base instincts. In line with that, I'd say that once a woman choses submission, she forever surrenders freedom as an option.

So essentially women have to choice of either freedom or male sexual companionship. Choosing the latter means forever giving up the former. For straight women, this is a somewhat difficult choice, since humans are inherently drawn to companionship. This system is also meant to ensure that there are enough females "in the system" to keep the male population satisfied.

Perhaps some other "mechanics" would be used to ensure a high female slave population. Perhaps women might be forced into enslavement for transgressing a code of honor that free women are expected to uphold.

Once a woman has been remanded to slavery, of course, she is expected to act like a slave. She is expected to show deference and obedience, and to remember that she is and always will be of lesser status than her male master, regardless of her past.

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>>7394932
>woman have this policy that if they what a to with a man, have his children, that they become that man's pet
>Any female children that are born under petship becomes a pet and is raised so as property

So where do new free women come from?

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http://thesabu.com/archive/

>>7407916
>Personally I would treat the society as being a little more female supremacist. As such, for a woman to lower herself to submission to men would be seen as a form of degradation. Rather than purification,

The way I see it it's perceived as a bit of both depending on views of who you talk to. Some people say the know what it's all really about others choose to be simple minded.

Some men don't care for caring their slaves/pets and lets them care of them selves in the way a cat can take care of it's self better then a dog can. A girl could leave the house at the beginning of the day and come back in the evening to please her man. Men do get commands from the female ran government but there female bosses are kept secret cream so a man could happen to some how have their pet as also their boss.

>Perhaps some other "mechanics" would be used to ensure a high female slave population. Perhaps women might be forced into enslavement for transgressing a code of honor that free women are expected to uphold.

I like the idea that they make young men fight in a sort of fake war that's job it is to lower the male population kind of like the wars in the book 1984. When a man comes back they have the right to get a free female from the government.

>>7408081

>So where do new free women come from?

Men are encouraged to trade older females with younger ones. The older female traded is a free female. But not every man trades in their older females. A master is also die and if his females isn't willed to someone else become free. The government also remove abused females basically freeing them.

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>>7405824
>I like the idea of abducting a man and a woman
Pairing off slaves is such a cool idea.

>The man I would try to comfort I would be nice for a while.... Then turn around and beat the living shit out of him, then rape him.
I'm drooling right now. Kick the hell out of me then rape me in front of her, pretty please.

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>>7410342
Yeah, pairing them off always seems like fun. Either to have a couple to play with, or as an investment.

>>7399460
Holy shit that's a damn good edit

>>7394932
>>7401998
>Here I wanted to show little bite the master owner relationship, Thing slowed might as well dump.

Edward walks into the main hall of a large house, the building was old everything made out of wood. Once out of him was a counter, to another a fireplace, in front of him and large staircase going up to the second floor. The site of the room Edward found somewhat intimidating. Expression of him standing there by himself in his army fatigues.

"You must be Mr. Edge," Ami calls all as she walks out from the back room. The only thing she was wearing a red leather collar. Hanging off the collar's ring was a set of tags. One had the woman's name and address the other had her owner and pet registration numbers.

"Yes I am," Edward replied, extends out his hand in a greeting. Ami grabs his hand and puts it on her bare breast. He squeezes moving his fingers, this stimulates his nipple. Ami closes her eyes and tilts her head taking in the sensation.

Edward found himself aroused, he hadn't seen a woman yet touched one in months. He found his body rushing with feeling both emotional and physical. Females were not allowed on the battlefield after all. When he gets the chance, he would cum and save it to burn for the Goddess Mother.

There was a sound of a small makes queek that causes Edward looked down to a small nude girl that was about waist high to Ami. She shyly hid behind her mother keeping her between her and the strange man "Is this your pup?"

"She is my daughter, her name is Darling," Ami introduces, "Say hello Darling."

The girl politely steps out, "hello," Edward pats the girl in the head and puts his hand on the girl's chest greeting her in the same matter as Ami. When Edward was done she stepped back and hid behind her mother again.

"Sorry, she was taught to be cautious around strange men," Ami says embarrassed.

"It's understandable, many dubious men would love to kidnap a girl her age," Edward shrugged.

>>7412498

"Many people don't like the restrictions at the temple puts on owners, those people believe that they should be allowed to do whatever they want to females," Edward replied.

"That's why it's always good to have more people like you becoming a Protector," Ami smiles.

Edward looks around the room, "Can't believe the get to live in such a nice place, I'm lucky to have this arrangement in your families lucky to be here."

"I was lucky that my master put it in his will that me and my daughter could still live in his house, under normal circumstances pets cannot inherit from their masters," Ami points out.

"And to think, because of that buying you comes with the house," Edward smiles.

Darling walks up to Edward and tugs on his jacket, he kneels down to the young girl. "What is it?"

"You really fraught in the Army?" She asks, "Did you know my dad?"

Edward was taken aback and sure how the answer that, Ami steps in. "Her father was my old master." She looks at Darling, "They probably didn't know each other dear."

"Oh, I see," Darling said disappointed.

"We go off and play," Ami orders.

Edward watches girl go to the bookshelf by the fireplace, she takes a picture book and begins looking through it. He felt his heart aflutter, "Really is a cute kid, if you don't mind me asking, she's fairly old and you have just the one? Most men breed their females at least until they have a boy or keep the boys and sometimes sell the girls."

"You are my master now, you are allowed to ask me whatever you want," Ami remarks, "My older owner bred me once and that was enough for him. If you wish to breed with me I have no objections, I would love to see Darling experiencing the advancement of becoming a big sister."

>>7412506
"I have a half sister that about Darling's age before I left to fight," Edward adds, "My father kept her around because he needed more servants, I helped raise in found the experience quite enjoyable."

"So, you have experience with children then, Good," Ami smiles.

"Nothing wrong with them," Edward shrugged, "I had a long trip, mine if you just show me the bed room?"

"As you wish," Ami curtsies. She turns around and begins walking, Edward fallows after her glancing at her bare rear. They head up stair, Darling noticed that she was being left behind, she grabs her book and fallows after them.

Ami opens a door at the end of the upstairs hall, "This is the master bed room," The room and large grand and open. On the floor next to the bed was a large human size basket. "Me and my daughter been sleeping on the floor in here but is you wish we can move to the kennel room."

"You don't use the master bed?" Edward asks.

"Sometimes I sneak up there, but mommy says I'm not suppose too," Darling said meekly, she then blushes from the attention she gave herself and steps back into the hall effectively putting herself out of sight.

"As you know we woman restrict ourselves to purify our Anima," Ami explains, "That why some of use prefer to do things like sleep on the floor. But if you wish for us to lie in a bed we will."

Edward gives an concerning glace at Darling, "You two can still sleep in the room with me."

Edward walks into the bedroom and places his duffle bag in the corner of the room. Ami and Darling fallows in after him. Edward strips naked tossing his used clothes in a basket. He slips under the covers. Ami lays in the basket and motions Darling lay next to her. Darling lays down next her mother up against Ami's breasts.

>>7412515
Edward shuts off the light. Ami and Darling seems to go to sleep fast, but Edward found himself tossing a turning. His body ached and his mind wouldn't settle. After an hour in a half he see Ami's out line stand up in the darkness. She walks around and lays down behind Edward and presses her body up against his back.

"What are you doing?" Edward asks.

"My old master fought in the war, he slept like you," Ami explains, "He needed a body next to him sometimes."

Ami reaches over and grabs Edwards's cock, she begins stroking it.

"We aren't allowed to have sex," Edward says nervously "N-not without a permit." Edward knew that there was people that had sex with their pets without a breeding permit. It considered wrong even if the female wanted to have sex. A pet don't have right to consent to sex after all, a man can easily overly abuse his right to have sex, So the government had to step in. If a master and pet engages in sexual intercourse without a breeding permit the pet then if able could go straight to any authority and turn him in. After she gets an examination proving her claim, She would be removed and her master fined. Fine become if female is pregnant.

"I'm just touching," Ami reassures him, "Masturbating you isn't sex, it's helping your needs."

Edward takes it all in and a few moments later cums all over his sheets and body, He falls quickly asleep. Ami pick up what she can with a couple of tissues. "An offering to the goddess tomorrow."

>Little longer then I expected, next is breakfast in the morning should be short...

>exploding collar
>shock collar
I'd have a future collar. A collar that is part medical device, and used to provide all sorts of medical carrots and sticks. Opiate dispense, constriction or slacking, massage, tickle torture, shock compliance, and because I'm extra sadistic, a kill switch that instead of exploding just grips down and slices open the neck arteries and throat, or the nerves in the spinal cord, but can also use nanobot injections to just as quickly heal the wounds completely. Or it sends needles through the skin and into the brain so pain registers as pleasure, and I can cut them up or open and have them like the sensation, or switch it off for a few seconds to let them feel the intense pain.

I want slaves that understand a total lack of control, not simply in matters of social and communal relations, or sexual agency, but in their very bodies too. I control their pain, I control their sensations, I control their ability to breath or think. And that control will never return or be earned, all a slave can do is submit and worship so my hand may be swayed to experience more pleasures than pain in my explorations of their bodies.

>>7412591
And thinking about it now, a multipurpose augmentation-on-the-fly tool would be interesting. Genetically shifting my slaves through painful bone and flesh spurts, turning them into any human or beast of my choosing, and back again. Growing new arms and breasts, or removing them to regrow them later.

If I could, I would keep the souls of slaves in little bottles, and make them durable enough to inhabit any sort of flesh or craftwork I chose, move from form to form, by augmentation or transplant, an eternal shifting creature, small and shimmering, its life mine to use or misuse forever, to preserve or discard on a whim. Complete and total control.

>>7412620
>soul ownership
At first I was gonna say you're crazy for wanting such a thing, but then I thought about it and now I think it's hot too. So thanks for that.

>>7373566
I enjoy Imagining myself as the master and slave depending on how I'm feeling

>>7380684
that sounds horrifying

>>7381005
spankings and chastity

>>7381414
that's fucked dude thats just fucked

>>7412591
I would want a collar that can read the life signs of sperm in a slave's vagina or ass even mouth. When the last sperm dies she dies or at least is knocked out or unable to move, Maybe the collar gives her status ups on the sperm count in her body and warns her when it's low. Or it will just do her in with out warning.

When a slave times out the only way to revive her his to fuck and cum in her unconscious body. This adds to her violation and humiliation all she will remember about having sex is waking up after getting fucked and this is why is basically is still alive.

>>7380684
I would have this fantasy about this kind of hive horde like the Cybermen from Doctor Who. they would catch girl and slice off their arms and legs with lasers and have cyber jacks put in. They are awake then this happens and become so traumatized they become basically empty shells allowing an AI program to take over their brain. Her limbs and be replaced with any attachment as need. Human like for maids and sex workers. Neon yellow, orange and green painted with tools for construction. Guns and knives for battle. They can be switch around with jobs as need.

Most females don't even get used or a job and are left stored limbless hooked to tubes that feed them. Only activated in case of an emergency and like major construction or military invasion. Many of these females are used as reproduction tanks. to increase the numbers of the hive.

I also like the idea of a girl finding herself with robotic limbs with a mind of their own, her lags go where they want to go and her hands do what they want to do and there's nothing she can do but shout and scream.

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>>7414105
>>7414107

>>7414107
hmmm pet breeding...
new fetish acquired

>>7414146

/r/ing a pic where its a guy in an egg with tentacles. Captioned with how the tentacles go up his ass through his mouth and he's in it forever.

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>>7414146
it's a great fetish. The best fetish, if I do say so myself.

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>>7414975
Also, Abubu does some great shit.

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>>7414977
>>7414975
I wish he did more of this, even if his milfs are awesome.

>>7414975
>>7414977
>>7414979
I always imagined if I had a slave pet who was my biological daughter (Because her mother was me slave pet and I knocked her up) that when she came of age I'd breed her like this. I suppose half because I find the idea of direct incest off putting when it comes to breeding. I'm find with striping my daughter naked and putting her in a dog collar and making her pee in the back yard, but inbreeding should be avoided.

The other half is it adds to the fantasy of treating her like an animal to treat her like breeding stock. As her master and biological father I have the responsibility to choose how her's and by extension my genes are passed on. Be selective and let the best or the highest paying men planet their seed in her. Or turn her into a brood mother and pop out as many kids she can. Either way I'll keep some but sell most.

Hopefully I can have quite a few female children to sell breeding rights too. As a slave master it would be my dream would to open a small privet human kennel as a side business. Make my off spring an investment I can sell when I retire.

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>>7414105
>>7414107
>>7414112
I had no idea how much I wanted this until I saw it here.

It's a really hot concept - being forced to fuck someone you don't know at the convenience of neither of yourselves. You probably have to do it with them watching too, and in a humiliating fashion. Any chemistry between the two actually having sex is irrelevant - the act is being performed purely for the sake of the master(s). It becomes extra intense if the two slaves involved are in love but trying to hide it.

I especially like the third image. Because the girl is gagged, the two slaves don't even have the opportunity to know each other as human beings. The leash binds them together until they've done the deed, but really they're just meant to fuck until the girl gets knocked up. Somehow the gag makes it even more intimate.

>>7415235
I would like to add a thought that didn't quite make it in the post about regarding the difference in how I imagine my self seeing my relationship with my slave daughter and her mother.

My daughter I would see just as animal/pet, she speaks people and can do higher takes but she it still a pet. People love their pets some say they think of them as their children. In my case my pet would be my actual biological child. Most people could never bring them selves to needless hurt their pet or child. Like I suppose would have no issue raising a none biologically related girl, because she isn't my actual child it adds a loophole/justification for me to breed with her. I would have always known it was a good viable option and this is how a would see my daughter's mother. Have children with that woman was always an option. Intent probably also be a factor because raising someone from a child to have your babies and raising someone from a child to be your sex toy cum bucket brings different mind sets. One is means to an end of passing you genes and or knowledge, The other is petty self gratification.

I suppose a lot of this is hard to is really explain. It's hard to get a good grasp on how a think a would feel in these situations and what I would do. Maybe I should just simplify it.

-Slave young woman
>Personal Sex Toy, If she gets pregnant then I have a kid to raise.

-Raised Adopted Slave Child
>Starts having sex when she's able to have children to breed her. Sex would be sparing, I would love her too much to make her a sex object (Technically a fuck object I raised her butted naked to make a sex object) . After first child may sell her breading rights to other men, what ever a good price maybe.

-Raised Biological Slave Child
>Won't have sex with her, If the market for her his high be very selective with the men I breed her with (I want me grand children to have good genes if can). If market is low no point in being picky and make her have many kids.

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>>7415785
It would be especially great if you had a free daughter with your legal wife as well. That way your slave daughters would be able to feel the contrast between her status and the status of a freeperson.

>>7415785
Ran out of room and wanted to ask a questions,

-How would you guys think you'd treat these kind of slaves differently?

-Would it make a difference if you raised a slave from a child?

-If that slave was your biological child or adopted would it make a difference?

-If it was your biological child would you want them free them or keep them as a slave?

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>>7415795
>>7415782
Did you guys read the like A1386G side stories and stuff in the Pastebin in the OP? That actually deals with a lot of this stuff to one degree or another.

>>7415795
Well my slave fantasies tend to be more one sided with only and all females as salves/pets. It makes the would clears cut because I often take to slave fantasies to what ever anime or cartoon I'm watching. I just want to fantasize what everyone's breast and vagina looks like and make them do animal stuff as their boyfriend, brother, father, ext pats them on the head and rubs their tits as they call them a good girl . So If you have a puss and or breasts that stick out then you are nude, wears a dog collar.

The closest I could get would be a girl's older or younger brother since they are boys they are free well the sister has to remain a slave for being a girl. I like the idea of an older sister slave dealing a younger brother free, Like when he's born he's too young to give commands as a free person. As his older sister she's suppose to help raise him, but as a slave she has to follow the commands of a free person.

But I as the master of the house can always declare that my young son has to do what his slave sister says. Tell the sister she can spank the boy if he givers her mouth and he would have to deal with it until he's legally an adult.

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>>7415842
I read it as it was being written. That's part of where I got the free daughter from a legal wife idea from.

I don't remember any forced breeding in A1386G though, but it's been a while since I read it (I guess the Jimmy side-story might count but that's technically not breeding).

>>7415808
I consider these questions to be fairly setting-dependent. In other words, I imagine that the me in another world would think like the people of another world, not like the people of our world. In our world the idea of making your own child a slave is monstrous, but in a world where it's the norm there would be no stigma attached and I also would think about the situation from a different perspective. The me in this world would give his life to prevent his (hypothetical) child from being enslaved. The me of another world featuring benevolent slavery might not.

Also since I don't have children I don't know how I would normally act...

But I guess the answer is pretty similar to how I think I'd be with a slave of any sort - strict but fair. I would expect to be addressed as "Master" not "father". I would grant her no special privileges as a result of our shared blood, and I would expect her to remember that her status is the same as any other slave.

>How would you guys think you'd treat these kind of slaves differently?

Not at all. I'd make sure my slaves remember that they are slaves. I would be merciful and kind but maintain the social order strictly.

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>>7416278
>Would it make a difference if you raised a slave from a child?

Emotionally, it most likely would. However, I would make an effort not to allow it to cloud my judgment. Slaves are slaves and will remember that at all times.

>If that slave was your biological child or adopted would it make a difference?

Possibly. However, again, I would make an effort not to let it affect my actual treatment of the slaves.

This would partially be based on societal norms, too. I don't know whether incest would be taboo in this hypothetical world. While the thought seems weird to me in this world, if there's no taboo I could even imagine having sex with the girls once they're of age - though more for training purposes than for my pleasure (or maybe not - the idea is kind of weird to me the more I think about it).

>If it was your biological child would you want them free them or keep them as a slave?

Unless there is a societal pressure to free them, they stay slaves. I prefer to imagine worlds where there isn't even a path to freedom for slaves, so that's not even an option.

If I also had a free child, the contrast between them and my slave children would be obvious. I could imagine my slave daughter being assigned to my free son/daughter as an attendant, for example, and I'd make clear to each of them that they are not equals.

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>>7416278
ah, right, that was in the Jimmy side story, and a sequel to it that was only posted to LJ and literotica.
https://www.literotica.com/s/an-early-present
http://fmannerly.livejournal.com/3939.html
As well as the whole mentioning of breeding stuff in chapters two and five, but that's commercial stuff, not having your kid get knocked up.

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>>7416321
Yeah, what I (and the other guy) are thinking of are more along the lines of a private arrangement rather than at an organizational level. That said I can't imagine I would be the sire - after all, incest tends to turn out some messed-up children.

>>7416280
So to elaborate on some of the differences between free and slave:

Any of my free children get their own rooms. I have one slave room that is to be shared among all the slaves (I imagine having only female slaves - if I had males there would be two gender-segregated rooms), and that shared room is not larger than a single free child's room. This slave room does not have a door. There is a single shelf lining the back of the room on which the slaves may keep the items which could be considered possessions. A slave which is assigned to a free child may sleep with their master at that master's permission.

The free children may dress as they please. Slaves must wear uniforms. They are forbidden from dressing in anything besides their uniform. There are different uniforms to account for different weather conditions and formality levels.

Slaves would be expected to not sleep until the master does and to wake before him. (I know this has been contentious when it has been posted before but I think it's pretty reasonable). That means me in most cases. The exception is when a slave is assigned to one of my free children, in which case the slave follows the sleep cycle of that master.

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>>7416409
Slaves may not eat until the freepersons have finished their meals. Should a freeperson be late to dinner, the slaves don't need to wait on them, though.

Slaves must display obeisance when greeting the head of the household for the first time each day. This usually means kneeling on the floor and bowing. This is to be strictly observed. They are also to address all freepersons by title and not by name, including other members of the household.

After school (should a slave wish to be schooled, which is optional but I allow them to go to school), while free children are allowed to hang out with friends for some time, slaves are to come straight home and work on their chores. If there is no work to be done (a situation which I take care to make rare), they are to wait attentively. Slaves are not allowed recreational time of their own, but are included in "family time".

...And that's all I can think of for now.

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>>7416409
>Yeah, what I (and the other guy) are thinking of are more along the lines of a private arrangement rather than at an organizational level. That said I can't imagine I would be the sire - after all, incest tends to turn out some messed-up children.
Of course. And that's why you let your free daughter take her favorite slave-sibling with her when she goes to school/gets married whatever, or find some nice boy to knock up the slaves. If you don't just go for artificial insemination.

God it's got to be awkward for the kids if you ask someone's BF to knock up her unfree siblings.

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>>7416453
I imagine running a household similar to the one in A1386G (but not identical, of course).

I don't think I would ask my daughter's boyfriend to breed a slave (unless he was a particularly good specimen). More likely I'd ask friends and neighbors if they have any good studs, and we'd come to an arrangement to breed them.

Honestly though I can't see that happening when they're young. The optimal childbearing range for women is like 27-35, which leaves it as an issue for my children for the most part. More likely I would make it a treat for the slave girls.

My slave girls would be forbidden from dating (and probably even masturbation). As such, I could offer them the opportunity to have sex with a slave boy as a reward for good effort, and they'd be involved in choosing the boy.

And yeah, I'd likely offer my free children the choice of slave siblings as a coming-of-age gift, assuming they've shown they can be responsible masters.

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>>7416411

>(should a slave wish to be schooled, which is optional but I allow them to go to school)

Education for a slave is like dancing lessons for a horse. Only do it for the ones who will directly benefit from it.

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The idea of an immortal slave owner treating his slaves the way crazy people do dogs feels like it could be a good story to me. Master really likes his slave Sarah, so he breeds her before she dies and names the daughter Sarah.

When Sarah #07 has her limbs locked into the rape-rack to be bred, she can be content in the knowledge that this is where she, her mother, grandmother, and great great great grandmother were conceived. Someday her daughter will be taken here, and her granddaughter, and...

>>7416280
>This would partially be based on societal norms, too. I don't know whether incest would be taboo in this hypothetical world. While the thought seems weird to me in this world, if there's no taboo I could even imagine having sex with the girls once they're of age - though more for training purposes than for my pleasure (or maybe not - the idea is kind of weird to me the more I think about it).

Well technically I think most people would look down on incest. If slave breeding is well organized like almost everyone's linage is well documented that would be a thing people would keep an eye one specially if it's a thing where one mother can produce both free and slave children. Like in one sex being slaves and the free.

Form what I understand occasional incest holds low risks. You might be able to get away with a father and daughter or brother and sister every few generations, Breeding cousins into cousins is like the opposite where it's fine if you add new blood once in awhile.

Keep in mind that this system one's value is in their breeding. One deformed retard baby would devalue the whole family line so too much inbreeding is risky. I can just imagine what kind of value bastards would have.

>>7416476
>Honestly though I can't see that happening when they're young. The optimal childbearing range for women is like 27-35.

Is this physically or for the modern woman who wants kids and has a job and stuff. I'm asked that that seems kind of old and I think most woman have kids before that? I'm thinking 24 seems more like the right age?

Well if I had a high valued female I'm willing to wait to breed her if the pay out is good enough.

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>>7417052
>Is this physically or for the modern woman who wants kids and has a job and stuff. I'm asked that that seems kind of old and I think most woman have kids before that? I'm thinking 24 seems more like the right age?
Early 20s is when it's safe but they've still got the energy for multiple kids, so that seems like the best time to start.

>>7416640
>Education for a slave is like dancing lessons for a horse. Only do it for the ones who will directly benefit from it.
Well, if you benefit from it, that's even more important. And dealing with dumb, illiterate fucks all day gets annoying fast.

>>7417052

This is a bit off-topic, but I wonder if CRISPR gene editing will one day eliminate the dangers of inbreeding.

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>>7417407

>Well, if you benefit from it, that's even more important. And dealing with dumb, illiterate fucks all day gets annoying fast.

You don't need to send someone to day school to teach them literacy and critical thinking. Slaves should get exactly as much training and education as they need to perform their duties.

That may sound harsh, but it's honestly for their own good. Say you have a slave with a particularly gift for chemistry, smart enough to get a PH.D in just a few years. It seems like a no-brainer to cultivate that talent, but unless you intend to put her to some use in that field, all sending her to college does is teach her that there is a wonderful life being denied to her.

Next thing you know, you're finding homemade bombs under your pillow and every meal is a different flavor of poison.

It's a real drag.

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>>7416640
>>7417628
I see it as being one aspect of the mercy and kindness I can show. I would give my slaves the privilege of an education if they desire it, because I want them to ultimately find fulfillment in their duties. However, I would make it clear that it's a privilege and that it's by my mercy that they are being allowed to go to school.

Should it become a problem, they get pulled out of school. After all, it's a privilege and the world as I imagine it is one in which slaves are not entitled to an education.

I also imagine that education in slaves would be considered fairly valuable for companion slaves. You want your companion to be genuinely learned and intelligent. I imagine that the curriculum would be slightly different for slave students compared to free students - perhaps even a different school.

>>7417052
You're speaking of breeding, which is not what I was discussing at all. The way I see it it's strictly taboo to have children from incest period (it's pretty undesirable overall). You can have sex without having children.

A taboo against having children in an incestuous relationship is not the same as a taboo against having an incestuous relationship. There could be a specific cutoff too - perhaps just sex is fine but actual romance would be frowned upon. I myself would certainly look down upon someone who decided to breed himself with his own children, even in this fantasy world.

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>>7417685
>>7417052
Quite frankly I don't care for the idea of using myself to "breed". The way I see it I might have children with one of my own companion slaves as a reward to her (basically for a slave, being allowed to carry your master's child would be a reward), but not as any sort of breeding effort. "Breeding" would be done with male and female slaves only, NEVER with a free person and a slave. I can't imagine that anyone would treat themselves as breeding material.

>Is this physically or for the modern woman who wants kids and has a job and stuff

Physically. Anything before the 20s is suboptimal from a biological standpoint (but after 35 it gets really, really bad).

Early 20s is fine; there should be no problem in starting at 24.

>>7417603
It won't affect the societal taboo. The reason why people look down on incest is not primarily for genetic health reasons.

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Something I have not seen for a while.

>>7417716
Great idea, horrible execution. I wish the person who drew that actually knew how to draw...

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>>7415782
>It becomes extra intense if the two slaves involved are in love but trying to hide it.
This is my favorite scenario:
>two people romantically interested in each other but too shy to go forward with dating/dating but haven't had sex yet/etc
>both people lose a bet/get captured/etc
>master forces them to have sex for his/her own entertainment
>the bigger the audience, the better
>feelings of intimacy and romance get mixed up with shame and arousal
>both get passed around the crowd, become the exhibitionist and the voyeur
>couple is finally together, reduced to toys for the master's pleasure

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>>7418116
It's quite the romantic tale, isn't it? A pair who loves each other who are made to have sex repeatedly for the enjoyment of those around them. They are both of low enough status that they don't have the luxury of experiencing their own sexuality for their own sakes.

They have to have sex publicly, yet to those around them, their feelings are irrelevant, because they are permitted no sexual agency of their own. Worst-case scenario, if their feelings become obvious to the spectators, they may be torn apart, as such lowly beings may never be allowed to participate in an act of self-gratification.

It's like Romeo and Juliet, except if Romeo and Juliet were forced to have sex for the amusement of their houses. Rather than their love being truly forbidden, it's just irrelevant. Perhaps these two might be brought before each other only in public, so while they share mutual feelings, they are never in each others' company without the watchful eyes of their masters on them.

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being honest about it though, if they're just there as entertainment, seeing a couple who are really into each other going at it is going to be more interesting to watch than people going through the motions.

Unless you want like an S&M or Rape show really, but that's something completely different.

>>7417628
>all sending her to college does is teach her that there is a wonderful life being denied to her.Next thing you know, you're finding homemade bombs under your pillow and every meal is a different flavor of poison.

Open a slave collage, a school for slaves where they are given the freedom of slaves. Low grades get punished

Also getting poisoned would suck, that's what minding breaking/ brainwashing is for. Yeah that doesn't always works but good slave's stockhome should stop it from hurting you.

>>7416691
>When Sarah #07 has her limbs locked into the rape-rack to be bred, she can be content in the knowledge that this is where she, her mother, grandmother, and great great great grandmother were conceived. Someday her daughter will be taken here, and her granddaughter, and...

Why teaches your pet the birds and bees? How does explaining where babies come from helps her get pregnant if you are going to strap then to a rape rack. Keep her innocent and confused then in joy her surprise and surprises to come

>>7418507
>>7418880
All of this talk about force two people to do something sexual not for their enjoyment but the enjoyment of others. It makes me think of this concept I always liked is sexually activated food.

Imagine something like all that people are given to eat are these editable food stick things some as big a dildos. When you take them out of the box they are hard and tastes awful. They can only being eating after curing in the vaginal fluids in a vagina it quickly becomes editable. If you what you drink water or juice you have to put a packet in a vagina and drink the liquid out of the vagina when the packet dissolves.

I like this because it would make slaves depends on each other for something that's none sexual eating and drinking in a sexual way that some people would be grossed out to think about doing. I be a guy and have to live off of food soaked in a girl's vagina and can only drink out of a vagina. Then you have slave children it think about.

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>>7419275
The drinking thing is just impractical.
Just put a dildo on the sort of water bottle you'd give a hamster or something.

>>7420162
I think hamstring it like that really work from a sexual point a view. I mean it's just a dildo with a tube in it drinking from it is like using a vibrator back message. There is a disconcert to the sexuality and embarrassment.

Maybe do something where men are only given or allowed to drink water. But woman only drink urine if they want water like how if a man wants food he has to stick it in a woman's vagina and get her good and wet if he wants to make it edible.

I also like the idea of slave girls living off cum as nourishment. It basically puts her the position where she need her master or masters to cum regularly. Not so sexually satisfy him/them but because she needs to eat to live.

One scenario I like to imagine the master of such a female or females to some kind of god like Son Goku the Monkey King witch as a god as the ability to cum endless. Was a feat of his god, he raises a baby/child off his cum alone. As she grows up that's all she eats his cum. She's the only person that lives where she is placed that is like a place wing. Mentally she's pure and innocent. Because its god cum she doesn't need to eat it all the time to live and it could weeks or months between visits leaving her to feel hungry all the time. The act of sucking off her master is so mundane to her she never gets aroused and he never fucks her pussy because his needs are statistified, the thought of fucking her vagina never even comes to his mind. She just a sweet untouched innocent girls that eat cum.

Another on I like is a race of males aliens, gain red or gold men. Who catch human females as pet slaves. They are aroused by them and keep the girls naked. Unfortunately their dicks are just a little to bit to big to have sex so all they can do his force the girls to make sex poses and yank off or make the girls help them. Keeping human food was too much of a bothers and finds the girls can live just fine on the amount of cum they produce from their large alien balls.

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>>7419215
>Open a slave collage, a school for slaves where they are given the freedom of slaves. Low grades get punished
This. You don't mix them with free students. You send them to schools where all of their peers are also slaves, and whole structure is designed to normalize and encourage their submission.

They would all be given some basic education needed for functioning in the modern world, like literacy and arithmetic. Then they take whatever additional classes their owners choose for them. For many that will just be things like cooking or dance. Others will be taught things like accounting or secretarial skills so that they can provide some more practical service to their master. A select few will even be taught things like literature, philosophy, or politics, if their master wants them to be able to engage in interesting conversation.

Regardless of the actual subject matter, every class is also an obedience lesson. Defiant behavior is always punished in a public humiliating manner. With the other slaves encouraged to particulate in the shaming of the trouble maker.

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I like the idea of collecting alien slaves in a space opera setting where humanoid species are common. Traveling the galaxy. Discovering new life and new civilizations. Stealing their princess to be my newest exotic pet.

>>7421341
I like the space opera setting too mind tend to be around a space ship that snare it's crew in environmental collars or implants, like the badges in Star Trek TNG. The ship travel around picking up crew members some willing some not. It will visit a planet and teleports away people it likes to join it's crew fitting them with a collar. People who are unhappy with this arrangement can be easily killed by their collar.

They are called environmental collars because they pervaded everything someone needs. Acts like an oxygen scriber, temp control, communication and translator, body force shield, disperses organic and water into the air and reabsorbs useful compounds in the body. Basically you don't need clothes witch is good because you can't wear anything with out the collar dissolving them and absorb what it can in your body. You will have no need to drink or eat or poop or pee. If there is anything missing that the body needs it can be absorb thought a skin ointment.

The ship only chooses females, It deemed that ship of nude females are the least threating to other species. Plus the ship isn't above impregnating it's crew, giving crew member children is a good way to keep them attached to the ship's social ecosystem.

Most of the ships crew are made of daring Ne'er-Do-Wells who job it is is to defend the ship they think. They also can't choose where the ship goes. The ship will go to a planet and starts a timer as it send down probes. Mean while the crew is free to visit the surface that their own risk. Anyone left behind is terminated, if they choose to stay behind their head pops off. if forced to stay behind they go nuclear taking out city blocks.

Anyone who wants to join the crew can come back with the away team. They well be fitting with a collar and modified. Old people turn young, loose unwanted body fat, males turned into females. There are ill effects of medication sometimes losing most of their conscious memories or having swish cheese mind.

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>>7421282
>This. You don't mix them with free students. You send them to schools where all of their peers are also slaves, and whole structure is designed to normalize and encourage their submission.
I don't entirely agree with this. I like the idea of free students in a regular school being allowed to bring their slaves along as attendants/classmates who would also be expected to get their education alongside their master.

In addition, having a slave-only school actually runs counter to the goal of encouraging submissive attitudes. In a slave-only school, the slave students would attend classes alongside their equals. In a mixed school, they would be confronted by inequality every day. Their daily rituals would have to include interactions with free people.

Perhaps when class starts, slaves are not allowed to sit until the free students have been seated. Perhaps the slaves are to wait to eat their lunch until after the free students have. Perhaps during "breaktimes", slave students would be expected to complete certain janitorial duties while their free peers are allowed to socialize. Unlike a slave-only school, they would be confronted by a difference in status at all times.

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>>7422774
>They would all be given some basic education needed for functioning in the modern world
The way I see it, school for slaves would be optional. Basic education can be provided without needing to send your slave to school, or at least not beyond the primary level.

At the very least, certain slave-only classes would be available.

>every class is also an obedience lesson.

This can be true even in a mixed school. As I said earlier, something as simple as the slaves being required to stand until the free students are seated would ingrain this into the slaves' consciousness.

Every aspect of school life would illustrate the dichotomy. I think even the uniforms would be different for slaves compared to free students.

>>7422675
While I do like the direction the concept is headed in, if all the ship's inhabitants are of the same status then there's no slavery.

>>7422675
Is the ship sentient and choosing to do this, or is it just a tool following some programed directive? Once the crew are collared and converted into fit young women, what does the ship actually do with them?

>>7422774
>In addition, having a slave-only school actually runs counter to the goal of encouraging submissive attitudes. In a slave-only school, the slave students would attend classes alongside their equals

By that logic having slaves work along side slaves is counter productive. Slave students have their teachers as their superiors. How is this different then normal slavery?

I do like the idea of free students being along side slaves. There is this concept of mine there people give children instead of a puppy to teach them responsibility they are given younger child of the opposite sex to teach them reasonability. The age difference would be something like if you are a high school student you have a slave pet about middle school age or younger. Of course high school kid being dicks and horny their slave pets get sexually abused. Like imagine a couple of kids the age of Tie and Sora from Digimon season one owned by high school students with the power to make the two of them have sex so their masters can jacket off or get horny enough to have sex with each other.

>>7422780
Tell that to the crew members the ship kills because they break the rules or it doesn't like them, and the people who wake up naked and collared with half their memories of home missing. Tell that the woman who become pregnant against their will. Make no mistake they are slaves to the ship.

>>7423055
Well part of me like the concept of a warden, Maybe its some man locked in an unmarked isolated room on the ship spends his days collecting girls and jerking off to their naked form as she watches them from a camera.

I still like the idea of the ship having it's own agenda, like the Tardis just does what it likes despite the Doctor being the captain.

Maybe look at the things as also a type of social experiment. You have a crew of just woman, some may have been men with free will to the point it doesn't harm the ship or it's function. They are basically forced to be naked all the time so they have to learn to get used to interacting other nude woman. Then choosing if they want to go off world with a gun in their hip and deal with none nude people who may or make not be okay with their pubic nudity depending on their society or even okay with the fact they are space people.

People having to deal with the fact that they are basically immortal unless killed. They have almost no need for air, food or water. They don't have to pee or crap every few hours. Removing them from their basic humanity physically for the most part. They still have their sexual needs their mines still craving to interact with other people to expand their minds.

Side note, the concept of how the collars works is based off the concept of the Buddha and Ancient Aliens Theory. Where it is said the Buddha has physical need for very little food and water and how stuff like that was achievable thought alien technology.

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>>7423411
It still sounds like they're mostly left to their own devices within the limitations the ship sets. More prisoners than slaves.

An AI master could be interesting, but I'd go for it being a more active presence. Actually talking to the slaves, and giving them commands. Maybe physically dominating them with robot appendages. Perhaps its design was modeled after human minds, and they did it a little too well. Accidentally including sexual desires. Which it fulfills by playing with its fleshy toys.

>>7423710
You know what, I have had a concept of woman having to do a sexual points witch basically gives them credit to buy things, like food and stuff. Like have the ship know when they masturbate and gives them money for masturbating. If two woman have sex with each other then the credit is higher then if they where masturbating alone. If a third or more women masturbates well watching other women have sex or decides to help by grabbing or sucking a breast or pussy then you have an orgy bonus.

It would demoralized the crew faster if they have to pay for basic needs like food or water with sexual acts. Maybe the crew can also buy metal slugs from the ship for going off world. A sliver, gold or platinum slug, even if it isn't legal tender is probably worth something at street value on most planets, just need to exchange it at a pawn shop or something.

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How would I make a slave of someone like C.C.

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>>7423346
>By that logic having slaves work along side slaves is counter productive. Slave students have their teachers as their superiors. How is this different then normal slavery?
Yeah, I remember when I was in school how I felt like a slave to the teachers.

Come on, did you really think this argument through? I specifically said that the advantage of a mixed school was that it would help impress upon the slaves that they are not the equals of their own peers. Teachers are not the peers of the students.

Although by your logic schools that don't include slaves would be inculcating slave-like attitudes in their free students... What kind of school did you go to?

I can't say the rest of your post does anything for me either. How does giving someone a slave teach them responsibility? If anything it is a slave who needs to be taught responsibility, not the master. It is the slave's responsibility to look after the master, which is a far cry from owning a puppy, since it is the human owner who is responsible for looking after the puppy.

It seems to me that your idea of slavery is limited to just using the slaves as sex toys rather than as servants, for which no schooling would be necessary in the first place. That's the only way I can see that the dynamic of "master being taught responsibility of caring for a slave" that you describe... Honestly your whole post is half-baked.