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"When I woke up I because a Succubus you know..."

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>>7093606
>because
became

>>7093606
TG/succubus is the best thing

>>7093492
I'll write the caption for you, whoever requested the draco tg on /aco/
Though I will warn you that I know very little about Harry Potter, Ill try to do some research before hand

So what's a Succubus anons?

>>7093601
>we have our own site now

Nice, here's hoping it becomes something great eventually.

>>7094010
No problem mate. Choose the POV that you want.

There is some characterization here
>>>/aco/913381

Anyone have some first person tfs?

>>7094107
A semen demon.

So uh, any news on Press-Switch or Student Transfer?

[spoiler]They're dead, aren't they?[/spoiler]

>>7094985
Student Transfer says they'll have an update out before 2017.
Press Switch isn't dead, yet. The creator is still giving status reports, and is a pretty reliable sort. It's just taking forever.

>>7094985
Supposed to be an update for Student Transfer at the end of the year regardless of what's finished or not. Somebody saying they were a dev said this in a /v/ TG thread and I'm pretty sure I've seen it said in the ST thread on TFGamesite too.

Press Switch is anybody's guess. Author is posting again and shown a screenshot and I think 2 screenshots of coding as proof of actually working on it. All Elena school stuff too.

I have faith in them both.

>>7094928
>>7094938
>>7094935
Oh look it is a bunch of shitty bimbofications

>>7095127
Fuck off fag, one of these is good.

>>7095209
Fine the cluedog one is average

>>7095246
It is not even bimbo, fag.

>>7095246
>>7095127

I dunno, I'd be happy to never see that artist again. Strapping weird man-faces on women is rather unsettling.

I wish there was a way to keep track of everything going on in the TG hentai games world.

You really gotta hunt for it.

Oh, there's a forum now. Awesome.

>>7093601

There's already a board like that at:

http://tgmangas.xeraweb.com/forum/

>>7095683
yeah, but sensualoi isn't an admin there

>>7095683
The admin there is highly autistic and heavily moderates on tone. It's decent for new information, but it's no longer a good community, and anything older than a year is almost impossible to search for. Another difference is the board makes no effort to protect files from being deleted when artists complain, and it promotes commercial western tg if the artist is a member of the forum regardless of poor quality.

>>7095725
They're night and day. You can probably trust Sensualaoi to treat it like /b/ and not moderate much.
http://www.metamorphose.org/thread/show.htp?threadid=20631&page=1&se0=thread&se1=show

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Does anyone know of a french graphic novel about a woman who gets magic from africa to give herself a dick, and then she changes her boss into a woman to take his job? I've seen in on /d/ but I can't remember the name. It's been published and is even on Amazon in french and I got an english translation here a few years ago.

>>7095914
/aco/ has it.

>>>/aco/961068

>>7095434
THIS

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>>7095209
>>7095430

>>7095932
You guys have shit taste, there is no manface.>>7095932

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>>7095925

Thaaank ya!

>>7095430
Bimbo,milf it all is the same shit

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>>7096074
>Bimbo,milf it all is the same shit


No...it really isnt....like, has nothing to do at all.

>>Good news! We have a new tg forum for file-sharing and plans for a database of tg stories.
>>Come and be outspoken when you discuss what you want to see, and what you fetishes you want to exclude

Neat idea. Might join cause I cant post some stuff anywhere else

>>7096100
It is just as bad

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>Wanting to be turned into a bimbo
>Not wanting to be turned into an anime princess

>>7096542
Princess transformations are the best. I wish there were more.

>>7096648

Identity death is the stupidest fucking thing, especially paired with other dumb shit like reality alteration.

Ultimate endgame culmination of the former:
>A guy walks out of a room at the same time a girl walks into it.

Ultimate endgame culmination of the latter:
>A guy exists. In a completely alternate universe with no connection to that, a girl exists.

It's all pointless.

>>7097049
Opinions, man
Everyone has them

>>7097049
Just a changed personality wouldn't be so bad, since their memories could be used to consciously moderate the personality changes and add internal conflict. Even giving up your treasured old identity is fine, it happens IRL when you grow up anyway. But I especially hate when he loses his memories, particularly when everyone forgets who he was before. It's like what's the point? So the reader can feel smug at being the only one who knows that he changed?

>>7096100
whats that comic?

>>7097148
I like the ones where anyone that witnessed and experiences the transformation remembers their past self and then the friends that TG the friend tease them about it

Other than that yeah I agree with you

>>7095914
I gotchu familia

Gisèle et Béatrice

https://imgur.com/a/NlgFZ

>>7097148
>>7097503
My idea I plan to use in a story is that the reality manipulation is like a ripple, where the wave is strongest at the center and while it's felt out further it's weaker as it goes.

What this means is that while some scrub in Washington with no emotional attachment could probably figure it out in 5 minutes if they had any memories of it, they'll probably just accept what's on their papers and computer screens.

It also means that anyone with a strong enough emotional attachment will override the new reality programming even if they're at the epicenter of it all because of how strong their memories are.

It's a good way to deal with things easily and add emotional drama as the MC expects people to recognize them who don't, and they realize the emotional bonds were mostly one-sided.

I'm trying to find a sequence I saw a while back (Most likely on an old tg thread). From what I can remember, it looked a lot like something from Kannel (But I've scoured their entire patreon history/deviantart gallery and can't find it).

It had 3 friends who were at some mansion for some sort of vacation they won or something. It ends up being a slowish sort of feminization story, with the timid guy ending up as a more dom girl (Futa? Can't remember), one guy (Who had the most focus) becoming a japanese maid. I forget the third. They're then sold to some rich people.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can help

>>7097550
It is Kannel almost definitely, probably taken down because of how often it gets reposted.

I know exactly which one it is except the name. The Ski Lodge? Something like that.

>>7097550
Ding, found it.

Spa Special.

It's not sold through Kannel's patreon or main site, it's sold through some other site.

>>7097569

That's exactly it, thanks a ton

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Egyptian art from delta-tsf; wtf is going on? And here's his old pregnant tg.
http://touch.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=43433831&ref=touch_manga_button_thumbnail

>>7095008
>All Elena school stuff too.

Bueno

>>7097511
I like it

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>>7097772
>tfw you forget to specify you want to be a "cute" girl

does anyone else have those cyoa links that were posted a while back?

>new Welcome To Saturn Beta chapter
>blowjob scene

HELL FUCKING YES MY DICK

What do people have against bimbo-tf/tg?

Like, I can understand some people don't like the mind-death in some of them, but a lot of them just have the person becoming decidedly less intelligent, not losing their personality entirely.

>>7097962
A story about [voluntarily] becoming retarded? I'd rather turn into that genius from Steins; Gate or fuck a genius.

>>7097962
Personally I just am not attracted to the whole "big tits slut transformation"

Cute TG is way better

>>7097962
Imagine, for a moment, if you had a good friend and a wizard cast a spell on her that turned her into an old Central Asian man who can only think the word 'nil' and is constantly talking about how much he craves absolutely nothing. You got to see her body's sexless, weathered, saggy exterior emphasized in great detail and he would only ever wear baggy body concealing clothes in earth tones.

Basically for literally everyone not into the 'bimbo look' of blondes and pinks and big lips and huge tits and might be into smart sexy people, this is what bimbofication is like.

>>7098329
Whoops, left my shitposting namefag on.

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>>7098323

I'm of the minority viewpoint that prefers when the TG subject is already androgynous and cute-looking to start with, OR when the guy is some big alpha who gets massively humiliated and emasculated by being TG'd and gets fucked by the androgynous-looking beta in a twist of irony.

Really want to be a writefag and make a story out of the latter scenario one of these days. Putting a trap into the picture also does it for me. Just the whole comparative masculinity thing.

>>7098329

lmfao

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>>7097969
>>7098323
>>7098329
This is why gyaru tg >>>> bimbo tg

And

People who self insert as the one doing the fucking >>>>>>>>>>>>>> People who self insert as the TGed person.

>>7097962
Because I like intelligent girls.

Rational thought and critical thinking skills are literally one of the most attractive things a woman can have, personally.

I mean, it's like, if I have some weird and complex crackpot theory about society, politics, economics, or science, I want someone I can discuss that with, y'know? Not someone who's gonna say, "lol what's with this nerd shit let's just fuck already."

There's gotta be some depth and complexity to her personality. Bimbo removes any depth at all, really; at least, it removes all the stuff I care about.

Now, that said, bimbo is okay if and only if it is temporary. I can understand and appreciate some of the appeal of a temporary discarding of intelligence to just have a fun romp in bed, not worrying about anything else. That's totally fine, but bimbo just ruins girls as people when it's permanent.

And when TG is involved, it's like, you would make a man turn into a girl (the best thing ever) and then just ruin it by removing a lot of their mental faculties? It doesn't even make me as mad as it makes me just sad, really.

>>7098401

>People who self insert as the one doing the fucking >>>>>>>>>>>>>> People who self insert as the TGed person

You're going to need one hell of a citation for that massive load of bullshit.

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>>7098401
>Implying we don't self insert as the person being tfed

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>>7097962
I like agency in my fetishes.

Boku Girl and Shinyuu to Seitenkango wouldn't be nearly as fun if the protagonists were forced into a feminine mindset outside of their own will. Loving submission is the best.

>>7098401
>self-inserting as the one fucking

Fuck that

>>7098577
no, fuck you (as you wanted)

>>7098598
the fuck is this ERP bullshit doing in my /d/ thread.

>>7096542
Shame that princess tg is so rare I want more of it.

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>>7098323
Cute is justice!

>>7098508

I must become the justice.

>>7098853
this

I have gotten to like more lewd TGs but they still need to be cute

>>7098486
>>7098508
>>7098577
As fun as it would be to be a cute girl for a day or so, I'd rather go the Identity is Everything route, and just have my best bro turn into my lovey dovey girlfriend I can mold to my will. So going with >>7098401 on this one

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>Not wanting to turn into a girl so cute that your girlfriend falls madly in love with you and cuddles you every day.

>>7098964
Having a bit of trouble finding the origin on that one, help a deviant out...

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>>7099005
Nyotai-ka by Ruen Rouga

>>7098964
Yuri is boring.

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>>7093601
You know one thing that I love about these threads?

All the work that some guys that lurk here do, saddly, plenty of the stories that are made on Pastebin are hard to find. Lets take a time to apreciatte things that have been done on these threads.

>Anyoe has that Pastebin story, where two friends are alone whatching movies, and one of them start to transform into a girl?

I remember that the author focused a lot on the body language and the subtitle details of the transformation ,it was spetacular.

>Another cool stuff that was done here, was that greentext of Sasuke taking Hinata's place, and becoming his milf.

Anyone has it?

>CrowbotTheShameful

This guy posted on DA and on TG Storytime just three stories that he made based on prompts from here - and on my opinion they were some of the most refreshing stuff in a while: Japocalipse and Eaglesworth Academy.

Do you still hang around here buddy?

>that one story where an anon from /a/ gets transformed into a 2d loli

I dont even like loli, but it was so well done and so funny that I wish I knew where he posted it. Anyone has it?


Which other things that were made by our brothers on /d/ and /aco/ do you like? Like drawings, stories and etc.

>>7099358
I remember it but that loli stuff doesn't last because few sites preserve it. Why don't we make backups by resubmitting any tg stories we ever bookmarked on the new forum regardless of who authored it? Kindle crap too.

>>7098964
but I do, anon.

>>7099190
Only for the soulless and black-hearted.

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I'll take any story/caption/whatever requests. Particularly something that doesn't involve established characters from other works.

>>7099358
>CrowbotTheShameful
I wish there was more of Japocalypse. I don't know why but that entire premise is makes me diamonds.

Also, I think you're looking for this story: http://tehavidtypawrita444.deviantart.com/art/Caveat-Emptor-TG-597736325

>>7099646
He gave me permission to write a Japocalypse story, but I ended up writing myself into a place where I didn't particularly enjoy being and never finished it.

I should give it another shot some time.

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>>7099358
I have that Sasuke-Hinata screencap!

>>7096542
I'd literally die of joy if I got to experience a princess tranformation. There's nothing better than pure, cute and beautiful maidens dressed all frilly and girly, so girly that they couldn't be more it even if they tried.

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Due to some friends, bunny is a new kink...

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>>7099638
Had an idea on /efg/ with a reserved student getting a genderswap disease, being eased into their situation (socially, mentally, or physically) with the assistance of a friendly Gyaru classmate, eventually going Gyaru as well as their friendship blossoms.

I see a lot of narrative potential to the concept.

Maybe have the protagonist's figure go from Reverse Trap to mirroring the voluptuous figure of the Gyaru; slowly filling out as she gets more acclimated to her body.

Or the student's orientation shifts as time goes on, from liking girls and holding a crush on their friend, to being boy-crazy from repressing arising lewd thoughts (perhaps cooling down after obtaining a vibrator).

>>7100100
It's good, although I personally prefer skinny tomboys over voluptuous Gyaru (your pic related is already pretty much perfect in my eyes). Cute either way though.

>>7100100
wtf is /efg/

>>7094107
A miserable little pile of semen!

I know it's ironic coming to /d/ to ask for this but I don't have many options. What are some good stories/games/movies/etc. that involved TG, but don't devolve into a huge sex fest? I'm trying to find some good stories that are slow with the TG, and has a bit of romance in it, call me a faggot if you wish, it's just what I like. I've looked at manga, tfgames, and a few other misc places, but the good stuff is usually abandoned, too short, or covered up by "Oh wow I'm a girl! Time to suck on dicks!". If some of the anons in this thread have been on tfgames and played a game in development called "The Weekend", that is a bit of what I'm looking for.

>>7099942
>manlets

>>7099837
Holy shit, thanks.

>>7100100
Ill work on it
How long do you usually like your stories to be? I usually keep my short but Im willing to go longer.

>>7100582
Try some stories by Morpheus

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>>7094985
>mfw that mother incest path

I had to stop playing because that shit just felt fucking dark and depressing. I don't know if it's just some hardcore sub fantasy but it gave me fucking whiplash compared to how light the other options were.

>>7099358
There was the guy who wrote the time travel tg, and the guy who wrote his own great g wave story. And the one where the guy finds the medallion in the attic.

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>>7099638
What about trying this story here - >>7099358

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>>7100620
>the mother body swap path will never even be started

>>7097772
preg tg best tg.

>>7100810
im....scared like what the fuck

>>7097049
Except it's the same consciousness. That seems to escape everyone who complains about identity death. The consciousness lives on, man.

>>7095008
Student Transfer writer here. I can confirm that we're shooting for a 2016 release of a new route

>>7100810
What the flip?

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>>7100840
Science says there is no evidence for a soul, or your "consciousness". When your brain changes and you lose your memories and personality you're an entirely different person. Identity death is for those who fetishize suicide, which incidentally is common among SRS trans who tend to get unusually depressed.

>>7101109
[citation needed]

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>>7100810
What.

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>>7101109
Fucking tranny that self insert as the TGed character, the characters are not real.

>>7101109
I'm not talking about the soul. You still inhabit that body, albeit a completely different personality, because that's still your brain. The idea that you "die" and get replaced via identity death makes no sense.

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>>7101173
You must not be familiar with the Ship of Thesus concept from philosophy. How many parts of an axe can you replace before it ceases to be the original axe? With these stories you always replace the wood (body), but now you're replacing the axe head (the very thing that defined it since the beginning. Now there is nothing left of the original axe.

We are talking about having your memories and your personality wiped right down to knowledge of the change, right? Because that's 100% total identity death. Your brain has also changed along with the new body. Every defining characteristic of your neurology that ancients subscribed to a soul has now been changed, short of the mystical immortal spirit-thing that inhabits you according to western cavemen, wand which Buddhists thought could pass into another body via reincarnation quackery. (But at least Buddhists realized that there is nothing unique about an individual, and its only the sum of the parts that make you who you are.)

>>7100582
I'm the same as you, anon. I really love tf, but I dislike the heavy sexual themes. Could you say what some of the good stuff you found is? Since I'd like to see more romantic/slow tfs.

And sorry in advance, I don't particularly know anything that could suit what you've been looking for. The things I've enjoyed are quite widely known, such as Boku Girl. Kanojo ni haru hi is decent, despite the tf taking place off-screen and it getting pretty repetitive in some parts.

>>7101185
Identity death is hot as fuck tho.

>>7101185
The thoughts in the brain are not the physical parts of the brain. Ship of Theseus doesn't apply.

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>>7098329
That sounds kind of hot desu
>>7094107

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>>7101217
Even if we granted the unscientific mystical bullshit that says thoughts can operate separately from neurology (which has no basis in psychology or neuroscience), then the ID death fetish still overwrites their thoughts and thought processes. How are you not getting it? There's not one shred of the person remaining other than the "idea" of it being the same person, when an outsider looks at them and sees them completely change form. The only thing you haven't changed yet is the name of the person, (and the names usually change in these stories so there's not even that!)

>>7101199
TFGames has some interesting stuff, such as Magical Camp, which is a rather fun game where you slowly turn into a magical girl, and Witch's Familiar, where you die and a witch brings you back to life as a woman (which you create in the intro), both are still in development, and the latter doesn't have much at the moment. Magical Camp is...Rather buggy, with some scripted stuff not happening at the right time or at all, but to be fair it's in very early alpha and even as is it still has a few good hours of content. There's also Loki's Corruption, it's not about the god Loki, just a guy named Loki who slowly turns into a chick thanks to a monster. As for manga...I can't really help much, there is a manga from like...The 70's that was interesting, but they only had the first chapter. Apparently it's ungodly rare. If you like stories I would say go to bigcloset and check out the TG stories, they're actually pretty good, and there are THOUSANDS of them.

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The question of "what is consciousness" is one of the most controversial, wide ranging, and hotly debated topics in philosophy and neurology.

We're going to be diverging FAR from porn discussion if you clowns keep it up.

>>7101231
Don't be such pussy regarding porn with fictional character.

>>7101237
>recomending terrible sites we all separately found out about years many years ago from basic tg searches on Google
>YOU KNOW THERE'S THAT ONE MANGA FROM THE 70'S
lurk moar

>>7101109
>Souls aren't real so you're not allowed to fetishize them.
I also enjoy stories with magical elves and dragons. Your argument is shit.

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>>7101109
>>7101231
>>7101185

Doing God's work.

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>>7101238
I think it's fine. The notion of identity is central to the TG struggle, the most intimate part. There's the excitement of attaining a female form and having full control over it, the fear of your concept of self being lost, the shame of becoming something that you didn't expect, and exploring sexuality and personal desire through it.
In a way, TG is actually completely about loss of control and identity destruction, to the point where character's often lose everything that they treasured and embrace a new way of living life. Death of consciousness is yet another fear of identity loss, but I don't think it's so far from the other aspects. It's just a bit more disturbing like snuff, vore, guro, but in the end it's all hitting the same emotion of telling you 'this is very dangerous, you should be afraid' which triggers your sexuality like wild for men and women.

If I were to just say 'my picture was a man who took over this girl's body' that automatically gives you a lot of context and thoughts to consider. How'd he taking it? Why isn't he masturbating? How'd he learn to fly? All these things are 'new' to him, new parts of his existence that are overriding his old self rather quickly. It's fair to say that the current 'him' may not exist at all, the only thing that was transferred was his memory and personality.
Just who is he then?

>>7101250
I get willingly suspending disbelief for fiction. But this isn't a case of inserting dragons or souls into fiction. No, these people want to pretend its the same person when it's not even a logically consistent position in the story's own universe. The philosophical principles we have found are universal laws governing nature just like calculus, and we can apply them to analyzing fiction. These readers are calling ID death something it isn't, plugging their ears and chanting, "La-la-la, I can't hear you, I just want to believe its the same person! Just let me believe!"

>>7101263

That's digging really hard into very specific reasons for appreciating TG that are far, far from universal.

Hell, some number of threads ago there was a poll that showed most people here self-insert as the TG'd person and an accompanying poll that showed most people here want the TG'd person to remain attracted to girls.

I just want to be a lesbian and have lesbian sex with other cute girls, while retaining literally everything about myself other than my body/appearance. I find your explanation very silly.

>>7101274
You just want a girl's body then. I overthought it. Maybe I should get off /d/

>>7101263
You are just autistic dude.

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>>7101263
>>7101269

I as well like the blurring of identity aspect of tg...to an extent.

Like, my ideal is that they become a girl inside and out...but they are the same person in-so-much as they have the same ideals and "special something" that makes them them, just shown through a different prism and embracing a different way of life.

IE:

>Valiant and heroic Knight is turned into a cute princess
>Exchanges manliness for femininity
>Sense of compassion, kindness and desire to help and protect others remains the same.
>Others "feel" like its the same personality, even if it's changed in some ways.

But that's just a personal preference and I don't care too much to argue the philosophy or science of it.

>>7101287
I already knew that brah. Thanks for the heads up though.

>>7101269
Which is a fair position to take, if you insist on comparing the before and after characters in a frictionless vacuum. If you put a cow and a hamburger next to each other, a person who doesn't know that beef is made from cows would be hard pressed to find the connection.

But it's really hard to take this debate seriously when the motivation behind your side's arguments always seems to be the fact that you don't like it and don't think anyone else should be allowed to either.

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>>7101302
So stop sperging on the thread with useless bulshit, make a blog or go to /lgbt/.

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>>7101310
>the motivation seems...to be to insult tates...
Now you're just projecting unsavoury motives as an excuse to be dismissive of criticism, which can be misused for rejecting any argument. I will admit I don't like identity death and find it perfectly stupid, but unlike the supporters I know myself and can articulate logical arguments for my preferences and what I dislike.

I like logically consistent rules in story universes (just like in this one), and I consider that an objective benchmark of good thought and careful writing. ID Death is a kind of low self-esteem wish-fulfullment that doesn't even try to be internally consistent before penning the words. It's story writing where you make up the rules as you go along to reach a pre-determined that is inherently a paradox.

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>>7101329
>ID Death is a kind of low self-esteem wish-fulfullment that doesn't even try to be internally consistent before penning the words.

Nice projection mate. Is this that autism that you admited to have? That makes you believe that you can judge the motivations for why someone might like something different from you, based on wild guesses and pretentious attacks against everything that doesn't follow your wish fulfullment?

>>7101339
>>7101310

Nigga is just a fedora tipper.

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>>7101339
Then make the case for why you like it, and how a fetish where you totally kill yourself could ever be empowering or inspirational? It's a rush to suicide, when you don't even want to remember what you were. A fresh slate without any memory that defined you. It's worse than those "It was all just a dream" stories, and not even the most life-dennying Buddhists want to have that, with their past life recall, karma and dejavu.

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At least this whole argument has done a good job of distracting us all from this thing >>7100810

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>>7101346
>Then make the case for why you like it

Actually, my favorite is partial mind alteration, not total mind change, but I'm not a faggot that pretends to be superior just because he is inclined to an speciphic part of a broad fetish.

> It's a rush to suicide, when you don't even want to remember what you were.

So try not self inserting as the TGed person, because maybe.....Oh shocking! Other people might like different aspects of the fetish! Maybe not everyone who likes the fetish is (probably) trans like you?

Also, you are taking sexual fantasies too seriously, likely because as you said, you are autistic...and thus, has problems differentiating reality from fiction. Hell, even if a person self inserted as the one who suffer identity death, this doesn't mean that he would actually like that it happened with him on reality.

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>>7101356
Don)t you see anon? Only sociopaths like Identity Death, in the same way that only sociopaths like to play GTA!

I mean, it is impossible to writte a good story with Identity Death too! A sophisticated and inteligent person with this fetish should have a very defined and speciphic view on what is good on it, and it most follow what that euphoric guy likes! Because....uhh...I don't know...calculus analizing fiction?

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>>7101374
It is just cringe behavior.

>>7101356
>I'm not a faggot that pretends to be superior just because he is inclined to an speciphic part of a broad fetish.
That's because you haven't thought enough to have opinions, or to realize some are much better than others.

>don't call me autistic...tough mean....mean.......autist!
I didn't even call you autistic, this is a chan with multiple posters, stupid cretin. And you never bothered to make the case for why you like it when replying, but acted upset at being called out for not being able to articulate something, while saying something vague about not self-inserting.

>>7101374
Fine, it's possible he likes murder porn rather than suicide porn, and I want one of you explain the appeal. (But you won't and I know why. ) Otherwise you've only convinced me that the people who like this stuff either lack insight or are exceptionally stupid and logically inconsistent. They seem unable or unwilling to articulate even the weakest justification for their preferences, lacking even self-insight, and instead get offended when they hear their thought processes are defective.

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>>7101396
>That's because you haven't thought enough to have opinions
>If you think enough you will think exactly like me, because my way is the only way.

Are you really this retarded? I bet that you think that you have a "Objective" view of the world.

> or to realize some are much better than others.

>This thing that makes you sexualy excited and is out of your control is bad, just because it don't follow what I like!

I bet that you even rank fetishes as "better" than others, without realizing that most of them aren't a concious decision or choosen based on logic. You might as well have had a scat fetish, and would still babble the same thing, believing in some way that it is art.

>don't call me autistic...tough mean....mean.......autist!

Never said that you called me autistic, pay attention on what you read. I said that YOU are autistic, for being unnable to differentiate reality from fiction - classic autistic behavior - and for being unnable to accept different views from yours as legitimate - which is also classic autistic behavior.

>And you never bothered to make the case for why you like it when replying

To be honest, it doesn't matter, it doesn't better why someone get off to something, people don't need justification for it. Your problem is acting like some people are better them others for fapping to some speciphic thing, which is stupid.

And as I said, I don't even like identity death, but partial mind alteration - I like the struggle, the conflicting memmories, the impulses or instinctive behavior that the character normally wouldnt have - it also generates more conflict to the story - and put the character in more feminine situations. But if a person likes the idea of completely reshaping someone into something else.... who cares? Who are you to judge? Why should he care about what the character "think" about the situation? The character is just a tool to an end.

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>>7101438
> I said that YOU are autistic, for being unnable to differentiate reality from fiction
I was about to reply to this accusation from the perspective of a literary critic, but then I read how your post ends.

>Why should he care about what the character "think" about the situation? The character is just a tool to an end.
Which reveals you don't even know the basics or story-telling. You couldn't write a good story or recognize a good one if you tried. You think the thoughts and motives of the characters are worthless considerations, and characters should be copy-paste icons that only do as directed. Your opinions are now shown to be worthless. You should be ashamed of yourself for being just another programmed drone who wants to affirm the worth of his preferences through arguing, without first learning how to think original thoughts or address a central point.

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>>7101396
>Fine, it's possible he likes murder porn rather than suicide porn

Let me get this... anon compared your criticism with saying that playing GTA makes you a sociopath who likes to kill people....and you actually went along with it?

Do you really think it? Have you ever played a game where you had to kill something, and you enjoyed it? Or enjoyed a movie where a hero killed setient beings? If you say "yes", acording to your logic you are as much of a murderer sadist as a person who likes Identity Death.

>convinced me that the people who like this stuff either lack insight or are exceptionally stupid and logically inconsistent.

Your behavior is childish, 3 people don't speak for an entire group. I am just one person and I speak for myself. Stop being autistic and thinking that one person represent an entire group that might have different opinions and reasons to like something, this is stupid.

But you still haven't explained what is objectively wrong with it. What is "illogical" with ID, if it makes people sexualy excited? Why people should only like one kind of transformation, otherwise they are lesser than you?

Before answering ask yourself...why people should care about your answer.

">muh murder" - Ok, so why should anybody care? Why is it important to take this in consideration on a sexual fantasy? Your entire problem seem to be that you are unnable to not self insert, and that you can't accept that people can separate reality from fiction - which again is childish and naive, even more weird coming out of this board.

>nstead get offended when they hear their thought processes are defective.

>I will call other people idiots for having a different degenerate fetish than me, and get surprised when they dont like it.

You don't have many friends, do you?

>>7100814
>>7100815
>>7099980
Do you happen to have Arianna Vance by Tebra, anon?

>>7101499
https://mega.nz/#!L0txBQZT!zGcdpocS2gwH8YgjOw1l3d3R84BcZqzyv_GrTILqDKM
not my favorite of his, but it's got a lot of decent drawings

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>>7101481
Nevermind GTA since that's a tangent, do you self-insert when you read these stories? Who do you self-insert as? If it's as the ID death trans person then you're inserting as a character who experienced suicide, and if it's the one who changes that person then it's murder. Or are you the smug outsider who says, "I like knowing she used to be a guy when no one else does." If you're not the first two, and you're the third, then why can't you explain jack-shit about why it appeals to you? It could be a lack of thought, or a lack of interest in explaining. I'm sure you're the kind of person who watches trashy reality shows or soap operas on TV and gets angry when someone asks them to explain what's so good about them, even if that person is an English professor or director. "We all have our opinions man! Leave me alone, it's all equal! Just as good as War and Peace!"

>But you still haven't explained what is objectively wrong with it.
I did, and it's poorly written and poorly conceived. If you don't understand that you must be unread or very stupid.

>Before answering ask yourself...why people should care about your answer.

Yes, I know they're fictional characters. As you repeat it's fiction, you miss the point like retards. None of you have given a reason for why you like it, or bothered to argue that the writing can be well-done, which I consider pathetic.

I like tentacle porn and I can explain the appeal from multiple perspectives, including the physical sensations, and the spread-eagle poses, even without a self-insert. Can you? No, it's all just getting upset like pussies. ID death is probably more stupid than scat, because scat is just making a fetish out of an action we find gross, while ID death necessitates liking bad logic and is unsurprisingly tied to terrible writing.

You know how most of us don't like furdom because we instinctively recognize that their stories suck? Well ID death is at the bottom of the trash-bin in the TG world.

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>>7101471
>I was about to reply to this accusation from the perspective of a literary critic

Oh please, go on, tell us what your doctor said.

>Which reveals you don't even know the basics or story-telling. You couldn't write a good story or recognize a good one if you tried.

Your first declaration was that you had a need to self insert as the character, and that identity death was "evil", because it "killed" the character (you). The point that I made is that it doesn't matter if you kill the character, what matter is that the story reached the climax and managed to get the response that it wanted from the readers. If a story has identity death as the end goal, the fact that the character like it or not is meanless, his feelings doesnt matter if you want to reach that.

> You think the thoughts and motives of the characters are worthless considerations, and characters should be ...

Never said what characters "should" be, stop making shit up.
You are talking about a fetish whose most of content are characters without any characterization getting randomly gender swaped. Where artists manage to get thousand followers based on comics with one off characters that doesn't even speak....and why this happen? Because these pics reach what they were meant to do. So you don't NEED to have Shakespeare on what is basically fetish porn.

All of this fetish has an speciphic end in mind and what is important is to get what the author intended.

Does this mean that you have to desconsiderate characterization? Obviously not. Don't be stupid anon.

Pic related for example, goes for indentity death - while ALSO considering characterization and motivation among all characters presented.

You can have conflict, an interesting plot and even be funny in a story about identity death.

Saying that any story that includes identity death is meanless, is like saying that any story where the protagonist doesn't survive is meanless. Which is a really stupid position to take.

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Guys, I'm trying to fantasize about turning into a cute schoolgirl.

You're really harshing my buzz here.

>>7101523
Thanks a lot kind anon, I've been looking all over for this.

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>>7101526
>Nevermind GTA since that's a tangent
I see that you are trying to avoid the obvious paralel without answering the issue. What makes it different? Why you can like killing soldiers in a game, but not enjoy mind alteration in a story? What makes you more virtuous than the other?

>do you self-insert when you read these stories?

Mostly never to be honest.

>and you're the third, then why can't you explain jack-shit about why it appeals to you?

Are you retarded? It isnt my fetish, I like partial. I said it three times, but I gave options for why it could be.

>I did, and it's poorly written and poorly conceived. If you don't understand that you must be unread or very stupid.

A concept isnt good or bad, a concept isnt "writting" too. The writting is the execution, and can vary. What you are saying is that "I dont like thing, so it is inherently bad".

Also what you said boils to: "It is bad, because it is bad, and if you desagree you are stupid!!"

>Yes, I know they're fictional characters.

So why you say that if you like it you are a murderer? Why it is ok to kill fictional characters in a game or other stuff, but not on fetish? Why something makes you a murderer and the other doesnt? Keep running away from the answer.

>None of you have given a reason for why you like it

I gave the reasons for why I like partial mind alteration, but as I said, I am not into ID. The point is that your view that something is inherently bad is just childish tantrum.

>while ID death necessitates liking bad logic

Which bad logic?

>and is unsurprisingly tied to terrible writing.
Because it is the most common and liked aspect of the fetish, unlike people on 4chan believe, and this can be seem by the amount of stories with it compared to averything else.

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>>7101528
Oh, let's lift up the hideous cartoon art with a bad story to boot. And it's another story where some pissy liberal thinks it's ok to murder the personality of some kids she doesn't know, just for not appreciating her art. You're holding up a story with the cliche of disproportionate punishment as a great example of what ID death has to offer! (How old are you kid?)

>Your first declaration was that you had a need to self insert as the character...
When did I say that. Your listening comprehension is terrible. I prefer to self-insert in certain stories, but I didn't say it's necessary to enjoy it. However, don't most of you self-insert as a character? Yes or no? Even if it's not completely, you generally empathize with a character or their emotions (whether or not you like the character), or else the story falls flat because it doesn't resonate with you.

>All of this fetish has an speciphic end in mind and what is important is to get what the author intended.
1) Stop misspelling specific, it makes you look like a teenage dropout
2) The intention of the author is often less important than my own observations which I takeaway when I read it. Welcome to modern literary criticism.
3) Maybe the author's intention is to write like a retard, and it might be better not to consider his intentions as much as our own thoughts.

>You can have conflict, an interesting plot and even be funny in a story about identity death.

And the conflict ends with identity death. The earlier the identity death happens, the more boring and pointless the story is. So why not just leave it out? There are more provocative and memorable climaxes too.

>>7101526

>You know how most of us don't like furdom because we instinctively recognize that their stories suck?

No, to begin with, most people don't like because they aren't PART of the fetish. You and me are not part of the public intended, and even if we were, most of everything suck anyway - including movies, music, comics and every content made for every fetish.

It is not "instinct", dont be stupid anon. It is the opposite of disliking something "instinctively", it is a judgement made out of contact.

Earlier you said that it is "poor writting" and "poor concept", withou never explaining why these things would be inherently be tied to the concept - which only seems to indicate that you place your feelings over any rational argumentation. They are bad because "they are bad", and this is what you mean by "instinctively disliking something", and shows that you are not really prepared to go deeper into any kind of discussion.

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Fucking hell. What happened to this thread?

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>>7101569
This literally happens to every TG thread. It's almost hilarious how some stupid cunt manages to throw the entire thread off topic every single time.

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>>7101569
Don't know. But this proves my theory that people who complain about identity death are cancer

>>7101569
Autism happened. Again.

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>>7101573
It's not THAT common, but this is the biggest bullshit-fest we've seen in a while.

>>7101274
I find the idea of loving as, and being loved back as, a lesbian in a more soft, sensual way is really appealing.

This philosophical crap is annoying since we're not comparing ships and axes we're talking about people.

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>>7101559
>Are you retarded? It isnt my fetish, I like partial. I said it three times, but I gave options for why it could be.
Then you're just being what the French call "a debate master." Please go away and let the ID death readers state their justifications without me wasting time on...

>your view that something is inherently bad
...fucking sophism and relativism...

>Because it is the most common and liked aspect of the fetish
...and retarded arguments to justify poor tastes with ad populum. Seriously, I can't believe you people...

>>7101568
They're bad because Identity Death is death of the persona, it's right there in the name, and it means death of conflict. No matter how well-written it is despite having ID, you could write a better story without including it. Do you like watching a 3 hour movie where ten minutes from the end the main character wakes up and says, "That was all such a weird dream," and then forgets about it? That's ID, and it's an objectively bad trope, just like Deus ex Machina.

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>>7101564
>Oh, let's lift up the hideous cartoon art with a bad story to boot.

Oh I see! Poor anon didn't managed to deal with the argument that a TG story that contains ID can have conflict, plot and characterization, and just decided to attack a random strip for being liberal propaganda or something like this! Just another way to run from the argument.

Also, it is a humoristic strip, with recurrent characters that are always changed on multiple ways. Your crazy reaction just shows again your autistic behavior.

>When did I say that.

When you implied that someone who read a TG story can only ever self insert as the TGed person, with me even needing to tell you that people can self insert as an outsider, or not self insert at all. This is why you insist on the "suicide" stuff.

>The intention of the author is often less important than my own observations
I am saying that by the point of view of the author - if the author wants to provocate fear, rage or laughs at a determined part of the story on a reader, and he manages to do it....them it was suceful. The objective of fetish stories is to be sexy, if you forget this aspect you might have a good story, but a terrible fetish story.

>And the conflict ends with identity death.
Not even necessarily, a character can still have agency and effect others after it. Can still cativate the reader after it, and can still cause conflict. On other side, it can also be the punchline of a joke, or ironic turn of events in a story.

>The earlier the identity death happens, the more boring and pointless the story is.
Mostly agree. .

>So why not just leave it out?

Because it is usually a climax, and the FETISH of the person writting, it is like saying for someone to writte a TG story,, without the TG aspect.

>There are more provocative and memorable climaxes too

Again you are confising concepts with execution

>>7101577
I don't like it, but saying that you are "euphoricaly superior" because you dislike it is patethic.

>>7101569

I'm just going to reply to my original post to make things more clear. I haven't read every single reply relating to what is being fought about, but I have an idea. Personally, this stuff seems extremely childish to even be fighting about. It's all about personal preference and what you like, no superiority involved. Now let's all calm down and just post tf, shall we? :)

>>7101595
I'm not going to read y'all's exchange I'm just going to look at the pictures but has /d/ ever had a discussion this exhaustive? I've always just looked at the /d/

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>>7101590
>Please go away and let the ID death readers state their justifications without me wasting time on...

Your arguments are still flawed mate.

>...fucking sophism and relativism...

Now you are just being retarded. Also, this is not an argument, again you just said "I dont like it".

>...and retarded arguments to justify poor tastes with ad populum.

What? Dont be stupid anon, just said that the more common something is, the more shit there will be among it. This is basic.

What a bad reading comprehension.

>They're bad because Identity Death is death of the persona, it's right there in the name, and it means death of conflict.

I have read an story where it happened in the middle of it after gradual transformation.

The conflict came out of the person that TGed the character - that still did it with more people along the story - and the climax was MC discovering what happened and reacting to it. This is conflict post identity death and just one example.

I could even make a story where a guy believes that he tricked a demon to his bind and secured that he would never get back at him by using a mystical coin...just for him to get cocky and flip it on the air, leavin a fraction of second to the demon to rewritte his existence. MC them could pick the coin again and banish the creature, and act cocky and smug that such thing would never trick him...unnaware that it already happened. Boom! ID as a punch line.

>you could write a better story without including it.

This is one of the most retarded things to ever say to a writter, regarding anything. This kills creativity.

>and it's an objectively bad trope, just like Deus ex Machina.

Deus ex Machina can be good on multiple ways too, like on a parody. You are just kind of weak at creative writting.

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>>7101595
Okay, I've grown tired of going in circles with you. It's like you just don't read well-enough to get much, and are unwilling to volunteer answers when repeatedly prompted in plain language.

>I don't like it, but saying that you are "euphoricaly superior" because you dislike it is patethic.

A silly reference, since Atheists are statistically better educated, smarter and more successful than theists, which they usually neither know nor like. I try make a point of paying more attention to smart people, including my former professors.

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>>7101604
Sometimes, but they are rare. This is the first time that I do this tho.

Funny enough, it is usually that same fedora tipper that always is engaging in these discussions. Usually to insult liberals, or religion or for people not agreeing with his speciphic taste on tg.

>>7101610
Ok, now this looks like a parody. Are you baiting? You keep running away from his questions, just insulting and saying to yourself how smart you are. Poor anon.

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Fetishes aren't rational you stupid niggers. No amount of arguing will convince people to stop getting boners from identity death or vice versa.

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>>7101610
You weren't lying when you said that you had autism, were you?

Still waiting for you to answer about the self insertion stuff regarding games or movies. Also would be interesting how you justify your taste as objective, when it is clear that you have a very limited imagination and keep thinking that things can only work on one way.

You should face that this anon is right >>7101620

By the way, you called the notion of "subjective opinions" and "relativism" a sophism .... which is absurdly ironic when statistically better educated, smarter and more successful philosophers of the modern world go against this idea...

You make me remember an autist called Emilyrees that is always looking for someone to start conflict.

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>tfw I think identity death is dumb as hell and I supported this guy for like the first two posts
>mfw horrifically cringey autism explosion

Can everyone please shut the fuck up? I'm just as tired of identity death shit as anyone else who finds negative appeal in it, and I sometimes act elitist out of frustration that my particular niche of TG has extremely little content, but knowing when to drop the argument is crucial to not being a thread-harming fuckwit.You're making everyone who also hates identity death look bad, as >>7101577 pointed out. For the love of God, you fucking idiot, just drop it and quit typing. Things will immediately improve for everyone.

>>7100582
Daybreak on Hyperion

I like identity death, mostly because my tg fetish sprung up from my mind control fetish.

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>>7101717
Same

>>7101398
okay, so now that the bitching storm is over, whats the sauce on this?

I looked through hoping someone said it, but i didn't see anything. Maybe i'm retarded.

>>7101738
It's by Greg Soujou.

>>7101717
I'm also a fan of both. Not sure which one was first though.

>>7097049
Identity death can be hot though. It's just a preference, chill you soon to be tits.

>>7100840
you're using the word consciousness but what you're talking about is the "Id".

and basically what you're saying is that formatting a computer with an AI is cool because at least the hardware lives on.

tl;dr that's bullshit

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>>7101717
>>7101718
I think total, instant-changeo identity death is shit. It's not even a transformation, I feel, it's just a replacement of one person or another.

I prefer the middle ground, where there's some mental alterations but the person is aware and tries to resist, which may or may not make things worse. That, or the person is broken down and changed mentally but there's an actual process.

This path and the twin sister route where she makes you act more and more like her got me hard as diamonds for that reason.

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>>7101569
People not knowing that de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum.

>>7102089
Yeah well sic semper tyrannosaurus rex

>>7102049
I can respect that. I also think instant mental death is a bit mediocre since I really enjoy watching those ore turn to atashi and the process involved in learning how to adapt and trying to resist is followed by the slow process of forgetting their previous life.

I guess I just don't often see myself as the person being tg'd rather than an uninvolved agent watching it happen or in some cases the one causing the change to happen in the first place.

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Finished an autonomous request, where they become naked

2 more requests to go(The zelda mermaid/fairy tg and the "level up" TG request)

hope you guys enjoy

I tried to work on leg posing a little more this time

>>7102096
I find the ore to atashi change interesting, but I find the erasing of one's memory to be too troll.

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>>7102089
Most Greeks didn't agree with that wishy-washy statement. Their aesthetics were focused on realism and harmony and their art used mathematical precision.

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>>7102268
(Unlike this picture. Romans ruined everything.)

>>7102268
What is that from

>>7101237

I just played through Magical Camp (skipped my class to finish it, don't worry, I can read it online), and although there are annoying scripted things you can miss that are required to proceed, I never in a thousand years would know that there was TG material that was of such quality, and it's a couple factors of ten more popular than I expected, too! My only problem is that it is way too stimulating for me, a person with a long refractory period. Once the developer adds more full-body pictures, fixes the bugs, adds more endings (when do you finally get a vagina and lose your balls?) and makes the story progression more clear it will be a masterpiece.

>>7102302
Yeah, they're still working on it, last update was just in October if you didn't know, but for now it's damn surprising it's still just in alpha. I had a lot of fun with it. Totally going to go with the Alice romance as long as it doesn't lead to a horrible ending.

>>7102273
Based on Kimi No Na Wa. Good shit, but it's only available in Japanese theaters or as a screener copy atm

>>7102394
Cool thanks anon

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>>7101717
I'm in the same boat. I like cute girls and I'm into shit like involutary transformations, mental changes and corruption. Gender Bender is simply the best variation of this fetish that combines both of these things and enables some really nice additional stuff like reality changes, transformed clothes or elaborate personality changes (ore -> atashi, etc) which get me diamonds. It's rare to see stuff like that done properly in TFs that end in monsters, objects or other shit.

I agree with >>7102049 though, instant identity death is shit. If there's complete indentity death, it needs to be accompanied by at least some struggle or subtle, gradual changes in behaviour to make it worthwhile for me. Mental alterations that don't end in the complete loss of the former memories like the Jane slut route or the April route are also perfect.

>>7102504
I sadly have to say I agree with the guy who mentioned identity death is a bit like suicide/murder, however after reading both sides I completely understand why some people would enjoy it. Still, the Jane slut route just seemed too fucking dark to me, it just felt hopeless and depressing compared to how light and comedic most everything else was. Still can't get up the nerve to play it through to the end, just gives me a really bad vibe. I like the Eliza twin route though.

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>>7102504
>elaborate personality changes (ore -> atashi, etc)

>>7100810
honestly kill yourself

>>7102522
I kinda love this picture. I think I forgot to save it last time it was posted, so thanks for the reference.

Right is cute! Cute!

>>7102522

Left is perfect, holy shit. If only stuff featuring that kind of character wasn't 99999x less common than stuff featuring the character on the right.

I wouldn't be so bitter if it was just a lack of content, but it's especially insulting when you so often start reading something that SEEMS like it has the character on the left, only for her to nonchalantly start sucking a cock, or to get gangraped and start loving it, or some other mood-ruining bullshit.

There's much more material appealing to the creepy, sadistic fetish of turning the character on the left into a cockslut than there is material featuring the character on the left actually getting to stay true to herself. It's infuriating.

What do you feel in regards to clothes transforming to fit the transformee?

Is it okay when it changes in the bare minimum? E.g men's jeans are now women's jeans and shirts fit the female frame.

Or do you prefer it when it goes all out? E.g Jeans into skirts/dresses shirts into spaghetti straps and magically appearing bras underneath.

Or do you prefer the transformee to be left with baggy pants that no longer fit them and a shirt a few sizes to large?

>>7102570
I find clothing change to detract from the fetish. The image of the new girl wearing her male clothing provides a contrast that is lost with clothing change.

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>>7102559
>sadistic fetish of turning the character on the left into a cockslut

I mostly prefer right, but not because of sadism.

It's more because I'm one of those who self-inserts as the tg person, and in my fantasy I want to go "all the way" with becoming a girl. Inside and out. Which may include getting dicked.

Not that I like full identity-death, either. Put me down for partial mind-alteration like >>7101438
explained..

>>7102591
Also pic related is maybe not a good example of what I just said tho.Total cockslut. Though at least he ends up with a futa in the end.

desu I kind of like the idea of the tg'd person becoming bi. Best of both worlds IMO.

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>>7102512
I can also understand why someone wouldn't be into dark stuff like bad ends or identity death, and even why they'd compare it to suicide. It's simply not for everybody.

For me, dark shit simply adds to my arousal. Stuff like the Jane slut route kicks my dick into overdrive. I also like less extreme changes though.

>>7102522
Right is perfect. I want to dress her up girly and force her to go outside like that.

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>>7102570

Clothing changes are a must for me. Things like sleeves to spaghetti straps/sundress/swimsuit and things that bare a lot of skin are basically jackpot.

>>7102600
Yeah, I totally understand why some people would love identity death, personally I love mind control/possession, and I can see why people would enjoy the idea of someone slowly becoming someone else, not my kind of thing, but I finally understand why that route was added into the game, originally I thought it was just the creator going off their meds and adding in a dark as fuck route, but reading the debate made me realize that it's just a hardcore fetish for a niche group, and I have newfound respect for the game for adding it in, even if it's not my kind of thing. Plus, now that I think about it, Calvin is a bit of a dick and had it coming.

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>>7102570
I like it when clothing changes go all out. There's something oddly arousing about clothing gradually turning into something completely girly. Sometimes it's even enough to carry an entire tranformation for me.

No changes at all can be nice too though. Those highlight the size difference before and after the transformation nicely.

>>7099638

MILF does a transformation switch on her lazy son (transformation switching meaning they morph into each other) to get his life in order while he feels compelled to act out her life including loads of yoga.

>>7102559
I couldn't have said it better, holy shit

now i'm mad

>>7102559
That's like your opinion man but the left seems like a manipulative caricature of a woman from what I read into it.

>>7098401
Source?

>>7102559
I wouldn't even mind the right so much if she admitted she had become a girl. Denial of plain facts is stupid, like the modern tsundere archetype.
I can't buy into someone being so dumb, and I can't make it my fetish. I just roll my eyes when they wrap up their boobs and insist they are physically a guy. Same for the sudden sexuality reversal, though I would believe it more when she had been a girl for a few years.

>>7097506
WARNING: This comic contains disproportionately large heads.

>>7103294
I'm not sure I follow. Manipulative caricature?

To a degree, her actions and attitudes are an act, but that's because he's now a she, and is endeavoring to fit in as such. But she's still the same person at heart, so old habits sometimes reveal themselves, and her old sexual preferences remain. So I'm not sure why that would be considered manipulative.

>>7103330
Painted in Girl Colors

>>7098401
I didn't realize "flashy" was a French term.

>>7099482
>loli stuff doesn't last because few sites preserve it

Such cowardice pisses me off to no end!

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>>7103506
It's already a rare fetish within a fetish, but the bastards had to make it harder to find. Sucks when normies host everything...

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Fresh webm.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1478375393079.webm

>>7103569
Anime name?

>>7103691
Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku

>>7103569
is that a fucking real-ass picture in the background just layered onto the poster?

>>7103737

Our world is just an show that the anime characters watch, dude.

Unrelated note, does anyone have a recent or permanent link to the Discord server?

>>7102591
I prefer the right one too, but with less of a shame element. Having the brain become female along with the rest makes it much hotter; things like crying more, having interests and fashion tastes shift, becoming more submissive and having straight female sexual desires. The same individual is still there, but dictated by a totally different hormonal and cranial makeup.

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>>7103756
>we are their porn
>they watch us masturbate
Jokes on them, there is no new material for them on November.

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>>7103774
Funny guy, stop making me cry.

>>7103770
Eeeeeexaaactly Couldn't have said it better myself.

Same light shown through a different prism. This is perfection.

>>7103465
>I wouldn't even mind the right so much if she admitted she had become a girl

Well, usually accepting the transformation is the climax.

That being said, this why I've been enjoying Kanojo Ni Haru Hi. The gb'd character ultimately enjoys and accepts their transformation, but their feelings on it and motivations for embracing femininity are more complex and have more ups and downs then most gb protagonists.

It makes for more drama to keep the story interesting and also more cuteness.

>>7101620
Is the bad translation on purpose? Why do people do that?

>>7099482
>>7103506

I know of one loli TG story on dA that a writefag linked here several months ago that's actually pretty well-written though also pretty tame:

http://tehavidtypawrita444.deviantart.com/art/Caveat-Emptor-TG-597736325

Still not a doujin or anything like that though of course.

>>7103770
>Having the brain become female along with the rest makes it much hotter; things like crying more, having interests and fashion tastes shift, becoming more submissive and having straight female sexual desires.

You know the one on the left also has a girl's brain too, comes whit having a girls body. Seems to me you just have a fetish of a gb character turning into a stereotypical hetero feminine girl. And not of a brain becoming "female".

is there a tg rp discord server/irc yet? someone link me the hell up

bumperino shmumperino

So I am having trouble now that I feel more trans urges than before, but I have a top secret plan. I don't want to come out to anybody yet, and I don't want to go through a sex change yet because I know that deep down you are still very male with our unrefined technology. I want to wait for future technology to actually alter genes, which will take a Manhattan Project's worth of effort, probably entirely driven by private business and billionaires. We might not even see it in our own normal lifetimes, but fortunately organizations like SENS and startups funded by Google, Jeff Bezos and even Mayo Clinic are all but promising that if you are in your twenties you will see anti-aging breakthroughs in your lifetime, and I am entirely serious.

My plan is then to wait patiently, and perhaps painfully if it gets worse, for the real deal, probably an artificial chromosome that codes for new proteins and has trans-acting repressors that turn off the sry gene on the y chromosome for instance, and then move far away from my friends and family. Then I alter my genes and become the pretty dyke I want to be, and I'll be able to look however I want as well because of further gene altering. Once the process is completed I will move back and talk to my family and friends until they realize its me, then get floored by the surprise. I will say that I have been waiting to do this for, say, a century just so I could see the look on their faces, because that's the type of person I am.

And that is my top secret plan. I hope you feel privileged that I told it to you guys first before even my psychiatrist.

What are some good TG games out there that let you name the main character? Something like Magical camp where it's more about the TG than the sex would be preferred.

>>7104075
Same question

>>7104075
>tg rp

Explain how this works. I get the basics of RP but never really did it outside of MMO's or tabletops.

>>7104036
Not that anon, but I'm personally fine with a girly girl or tomboy transformation (in fact, as in all things, I prefer tomboy). But yeah, "female brain" is a must for me.

>>7104133
On that note, I think right is overall closer to my preference because it makes it more clear that some kind of transition and conflict is going on inside, whatever the result may be.

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>>7103478

It's so weird seeing this pic again, and reading people's reactions to it.

After going through the whole sex-change/hormones deal, I've basically ended up as a weird mix of both left and right on any given day. I can definatley say though, that the Left day's are way more enjoyable than the Right.

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>>7096989

>>7103478
"caricature" in the sense the person is acting like how they think a woman acts.

Manipulative because they plan to use their position to obtain the trust and relationships of girls.

It's how I read it, I see what you're going for but I feel like the left is meant to be more "negative" than the right.

>>7104146
Love this picture. The details, the length of time, the pregnancy
Diamonds.

So I think the one with the foreigner who becomes a girl when he enters Japan https://exhentai.org/g/942296/4f6fc088c0/ is the best recent TG manga - there are links in the comments to parts 2 and 3 and I was wondering if anyone can tell me why he's so gung-ho about fucking the dude in the third one.

>>7104146
Who's the author of your image?

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>>7104098

Or you could also wait a few hundred, thousand, or million years for the continued natural genetic deterioration of the non-recombining areas of the Y chromosome, and other genes responsible for sexual dimorphism in primates. Only 30,000 years ago most women resembled men and most men looked like hairy midgets with massive beards by the time they were 13. Eventually almost all males will grow up looking like androgynous overgrown shotas as opposed to the maybe 15% or so who do in the present day. At the very least transitioning will be more naturally foolproof but who am I kidding why wait 900 generations for that shit when you could just go with that anti-aging super science regimen in only a few decades.

>>7104302
You mean I was born too late to be a dwarf?

God dammit.

Still no links to TG RP irc/discord. rip.

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>>7104293

Corablue

https://e621.net/post/index/1/corablue

What are some well written tg stories that don't jump straight to sex? I enjoy observing how people react to someone suddenly changing genders and how the changed character has to solve problems and situations in their new body, however most tg in media is "Oh, I'm a girl now. BETTER START SUCKING DICKS!". I've looked at a few sites, mainly BigCloset, but a lot of the stories there seem more like bad fanfiction though a few gems were found, anything would be appreciated at this point.

>>7104594
Uplifted is a Xeno TGTF with fantastic mental changes.
For A Girl takes all the way til the end to go for the D.
Welcome to Saturn Beta has been slow burning, with no hetero sex (yet)

>>7104904
Thanks mate, where would I find these stories? Bigcloset?

>>7104913
tgstorytime.
In fact, here you go.
Uplifted
http://www.tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=2803&ageconsent=ok&warning=3
For a Girl
http://www.tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=88
Welcome to Saturn Beta
http://www.tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=2954

Hurray for agency!

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>>7104918
You gave me three stories and a brand new site to look at, thanks a lot anon, in return I give one of the few tg pics I have in my porn folder. Like I said, I prefer the characters and story than the porn. Unless it's Delta-tsf.

>>7103569
>I mean, how can a guy be a magical girl?!
Something something twintails.

>>7104923

That one fujoshi anime about flamboyant magical boys

>>7102522
Right is favorite to me. Always like when they fight the change.

>>7103569
>not showing the change
boo

>>7101295
Source? Reverse search ain't working

>>7104971

The scene was an ep 06 flashback to when he first started and that webm was literally the entire clip

>>7104975
"10 things to do while I'm still a boy" by Orimoto Mimana

One of my personal favorites. Mostly comedy, but pretty funny. Pretty unique for having the transformation being the ending rather then the beginning.

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>>7104997

He makes such a great trap so it's a shame.

>>7102522
>when rushed says "watashi"

That doesn't make sense. If the character was used to speaking as a man, then it wouldn't make sense to slip up in that way. It should take effort to speak like a girl.

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>>7102522
I prefer something like what happened to Mai. She initially wanted to turn back into a man and considered herself male, but wore girls' clothes and tried to act as much as a girl as she could because she didn't want to stand out and have people realize that she used to be a man. However after a few months her mind turned female and she started to like boys and after suffering an identity crisis and struggling over the impact of her transformation on her identity, she eventually accepted herself as a woman and decided to live as a girl.

>>7105119

Japanese first-person pronouns and mannerisms are the most utterly retarded aspect of the language and the fact that they exist is a dumb formality that doesn't even serve a practical linguistic purpose. "Watashi" is technically gender-neutral formal first person while "boku" and "ore" are considered male. So basically Japanese girls are brought up from their toddling stages to always speak in an extremely polite and restrained adult mode of speech at all times and people will think they're eccentric or rebellious if they don't, while it's no big deal if males move freely between different modes.

So yeah the TG changing a guy's speech mannerisms is really retarded and unrealistic but it's part of the artist's fantasy or interpretation so there's little point taking it seriously.

>>7105150
All natural languages are full of stuff that serve no "practical purpose".

But yeah, a change in speech patterns or mannerisms makes sense only as a result of a conscious effort on the part of the character. Unless you say that the character's personality has been rewritten so that their default behavior is the same as if they've always been a woman.

>>7105154

Few other major languages have first person pronouns, which are artificially constructed in the first place and are imposed rather than a reflection of natural behavioral speech patterns.

>>7105160
What are you talking about? English has a first person pronoun. And different speech patterns for men and women are pretty common; if anything English is weird for lacking them.

I bet that if I were magically transformed into a woman I'd screw up and talk like a man all the time since I've spent my whole life talking like one.

>>7105119
Agreed, its cliche.

>>7105150
I thought the same until I started trolling Japanese I don't like with mock formality and old pronouns like お主 は and 我がは。now I love them. I can't do that everyday roleplay shit in English.

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Anyone got a link to the Discord RP server?

>>7101341
>1st Sergeant
>only has sergeant stripes (and upside down at that)
they only call her sergeant instead of 1st sergeant.

its shit

>>7105119
>>7105227

I like the idea of it, unintentionally slipping into femininity without realizing it, but yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense unless speech patterns have been explicitly rewired.

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https://exhentai.org/g/993874/69285c98e5/
>daily tg english search
>find this
>it's actually the 10% where the guy goes "fuck yeah, being a girl rocks! All your dicks are mine!"

There guys
0% identity death

>>7094985
Student Transfer? Never heard of it... link?

Has there been a pressswitch update in 2016? Last I played was early this year.

>>7105379
Student Transfer: http://tfgamessite.com/index.php?module=viewgame&id=790

And no, Presswitch still hasn;t bee updated, but the writer on it has started using the tfgamessite forums again, and says he's working on a new update. Here's hoping, amirite?

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>>7105363

Looks like he turned into Yang, certainly not a bad choice.

>>7105363
>Buys medicine
>No way this will work
>Holy shit I turned into girl
>Fuck little brother

So annoying for TG girl to instantly lust for cock.

>>7105463
There are exceptions and I can sometimes pardon it if the art or other aspects are strong, but yeah, in general its the sign of a weak "dime a dozen" doujin.

>>7105463
>>Fuck little brother

Seriously though what is it with Japan and incest

>>7105483

what is it with Japan and literally everything being a fetish

>>7105483
They were cooped up on that little island for so long with no healthy outlets
Shit happens.

>>7105463
Not my point
Sure he loves cock instantly, but he's still his usual douchebag sadist self. He wanted to be that way.

So yes, it is different in that regard

>>7105496
I can agree with you, Anon.

It's a slutty little mango but it IS her/his choice.

>>7105483
It's called wincest and I like it. Family bonds give are strong emotions, you can't ditch family easily even if you do it poorly, and there is a hiding it motif/taboo that makes it exciting when you insert yourself.

>>7105463
A 20 page porn manga doesn't have the time to show the character gradually succumbing to the cock.

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>>7105489
With the Japanese being so xenophobic, I wouldn't be surprised

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>>7105565

>>7105562
I've seen it done decently. Just needs more then 5 pages of set up and decent porn writin' skills.

Some of the best are when they resist up until getting groped and fondled, and then start to gradually lose the desire to say no as they're overwhelmed by new feelings.