/dgg/ - /d/ Games General

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Also there is this lewd jam thing. Should we keep it in the OP for the rest of the month?

https://itch.io/jam/lewd-jam-2016

Pic related, h-minded da vincis assemble

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Meanwhile in a degradationist arcology, degradationists are degrading degraded girls strapped to degrading implements in a degradationist establishment.

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The minimum to start a thread is 6 pictures, right?

>>7000290
It says its set to "punish" but theres no denying whats happening there is torture.

All this makes me think. Are there any good games with forced orgasm content? I recall the Studio S games were decent, but filled with... other, less pleasant stuff as the downside. Many trainer type games, flash or otherwise, have elements of it, but it's far too repetitive and the quality is usually mediocre.

Any suggestions?

>>7000334
The distinction itself is somewhat fragile. I'm sure torture can count as a form of punishment, and some harsh punishment is obviously torture.

New newlfe where?

I know the game is shit but i keep coming back to it

>>7000334
I mean he's a jap, his english isn't all that strong. Don't expect delicate conceptual subtleties.

>>7000350
>>7000353
What I'm saying is 8 orgasms a minute to the point where they have orgasmed over 5000 times has gone well beyond what could be considered pleasurable and has just a horendous form of torture at that point. I like machine stuff but not when its extream stuff like that.

>>7000361
Yeah but fiction though
That many orgasms in fiction just results in mindbreaking from the pleasure, at worst.

CAM-WHORE v0.0.2 is now available. Do you like bugs? Are you fond of placeholders? Is a complete lack of actual porn your fetish? Then you'll love 0.0.2!

http://pastebin.com/45kV1WxU

v0.0.2:
Added several new Traits and Perks.
Added more character creation options.
Finished the basic Morale system.
One of the character motivation options now has content, including a reward that doesn't do anything yet. Guess which one.
The MMO stream is still lacking content, but now loops and pays properly.
Added a placeholder camslu.tz stream. It's lacking content, but loops and pays properly.
Added a stamina bar. You no longer have to use the debug room to see how tired you are.
Updated and expanded the tutorial.
Created a weekly upkeep calculation system (that is not balanced in the slightest against how fast you can actually earn money in the demo).
Assorted minor changes.
Rewrote and reorganized a lot of the old code to make use of everything I've learned since I started working on this project. Everything looks cleaner and it'll be much easier for me to add new stuff.
Still no actual porn.

Coded but inaccessible:
Created a quest log system and two basic tutorial quests.
Created the first version of the cosplay assessment system.
Created an inventory system (that doesn't do anything yet because there are no items).
Created wardrobe and clothing lewdness evaluation systems (with one shirt, one pair of pants, one bra, some test accessories, and the ability to look in a mirror to get a description of how revealing your shirt is).
Created a system to generate and save viewers with random fetishes and preferences. Will mainly be used for recurring fans and rich donors.
Created the privacy/doxxing system.
Currently working on the account merge system.
Came up with the basic design for the dedicated fan and enemy management systems (hasn't been coded yet).

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>>7000347
Rack by fekfek is all I can think of aside from the two studio S games (ryoujoku and yui ero), which is a flash game more strictly focused on forced orgasms and edging, that is pretty well done. Nothing else comes to mind. Absolutely nothing text-based either.

Note, it was originally a furry game, but there are human skins for the characters you are interacting with.

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I can't find it anywhere, /dgg/, can you help me out? I'm looking for Chijoku no Troll Busters, the game, not the sprite gallery
anyone got a link to that?

>>7000361
Well, since you want to get pedantic about it, 8 orgasms per minute are literally impossible. A minute has 60 seconds. 8 orgasms per minute would mean one orgasm every 7.5 seconds. Even if it were possible to stimulate an orgasm in 8 seconds, with some combination of aphrodisiacs and machine stimulation, the orgasm itself would take between 5 - 15 seconds to end. So this either means she would experience a single continuous orgasm or that it's literally impossible to get to 8 orgasms because each orgasm takes too much time to die down before the next one can occur.

>>7000364
if shes cumming at a rate of 8 orgasms per minute for a total of 5329 orgasms then she has been cumming every 7.5 seconds for the past 11 hours. That's just cruel to me.

>>7000371
If it's a dlsite game, have you tried searching for it by its RJ code? Try anime-sharing and sukebei in particular.

>>7000372
That sounds like a bad time for whoever is in the box.

>>7000378
I mean, it's a punishment.
And again, it hardly follows realistic rules. If reading doujins with forced orgams taught me anything, it's that the women in them can handle hundreds of consecutive orgasms, or a single continuous one lasting like, an hour or some shit.

The point is, don't overthink, seriously.

>>7000399
I wouldnt have a problem if it was a guy fucking her for eleven hours straight giving her a constant orgasn but being staped in a small box and having it done just feels like torture because I can see the raw statistics and how its purely to hurt her.

>>7000290
Anyone know the keyword for the milktraining game? I keep entering momkinsb and it tell me its wrong. I am I retarded?

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>>7000378
Cruelty is so much fun, tho, you paternalist softy.

Well since I haven't seen it posted yet
[spoiler]https://mega.nz/#!rN1BlbpK!hU_FSL7CEoUkoKQQgxLdu4gabbKfRHSgxs_2IepZy80[/spoiler]
new life for anyone who cares
if there's any patches/fixes this month I'll upload those too but next month might be another crap update so who knows

>>7000430
>ctrl+s works but the spoiler itself doesn't
well alright then

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>>7000394
There's worse. I mean would you prefer being encased in a small space for an extended period of time and not being sexually tortured?

>>7000435
Yes.

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>>7000439
Well, I think I would go insane if I were completely immobile, without any sensory intake at all to keep my mind occupied.

>>7000301
6 is the minimum um it is up to you if you want to do more than just the bare minimum. now the inflation thread for example has 37 pictures of inflation.

>>7000448
Still better than constant pain.

>>7000451
Pleasure, not pain. That's the idea. It's not the artist's fault that you're incapable of maintaining the suspense of disbelief.

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>>7000412
Don't worry anon. I'm sure she'll be given plenty of aftercare after she's eventually let out.

>>7000454
That level of overstimulation would become painful after a while even if you were wearing a Ring of Chafing Immunity +5.

>>7000430
Cheers man.

>>7000467
...if you were a real person.

You're doing this on purpose, aren't you?

>>7000467
The potion button means she's addled with aphrodisiacs.

Anime aphrodisiacs. You know how these work?

>>7000455
That's interesting. I just went through my collection only to realize that I have virtually no gentle maledom and happy slavegirl images.

I need to get back on the hunt.

>>7000467
If we're going to get autistic about this then the point is moot because you physically can't orgasm that many times in a row.

All sexual torture stories/games/pictures are inherently unrealistic. You can't break someone's mind via sex and you can't force them to orgasm 20+ times in a row.

>>7000489
>moot
Who?

>>7000494
Notorious cuck and founder of reddit.

>>7000474
>if we define prolonged overstimulation as something that doesn't cause suffering, then prolonged overstimulation doesn't cause suffering
wow are you a scientist or something

>>7000489
>You can't break someone's mind via sex
Years of doujin training, and I've been lied?

>>7000371
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the game is just a progressive gallery with moon runes. If thats what youre looking at then thats all there is. I have it somewhere deep in my hard drive, Ill post it when I get home from work.

>>7000513
Alright, so you ARE doing this on purpose.
Because I refuse to believe you're stupid enough to fail to notice the difference between the overstimulation in a fictional work designed to provide masturbation aid, and overstimulation in the context of a real person being subjected to it.

So basically decent bait, you got me, but you just fucked it up.

>>7000527
So your argument is literally that if we define prolonged overstimulation as something that doesn't cause suffering, then prolonged overstimulation doesn't cause suffering.

Good job. I fell for it. You got your replies. Now go back to your ebin trole cave.

>>7000365
cool concept but there is nothing really in the game yet

>>7000533
You're repeating yourself. That won't make you right.

The argument is that real world rules do not necessarily apply to fiction. In fact, they generally do not apply to literal fap material as a rule - if they do, it's an exception.

Seriously. Just stop. No one's really buying it anymore.

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Hey, I'm trying to play this game but I can't get the machine translation to spit out any text. It's made with Brum so I can't use chiitrans and instead have the ITH pull the japanese text that automatically copies it to the clipboard so chiitrans/translation aggregator can give me something useful. But the problem is that I can only choose between a thread without any dialogue or one that takes only a couple words and ignores most of it.

It's a real shame because not only can't I get any of the dialogue but I can't get anything from the menus or anything either. It seems like a pretty neat game, you lay down traps to guide your heroine but hell if I know what half of them do, even after fooling around with them.

>>7000430

FUCK I love that game. Making a facsimile of myself and just dropping my standards and allowing a guy to act like a disgusting jerk and me passively letting him do whatever he wants.. amazing.

Too many times I've schlicked to completion just from "[Guy] say's he's done for the night and quickly leaves".

>>7000618
My claim is that even if you were immune to physical injury, exhaustion, and strain, that level of overstimulation would become psychologically painful pretty quickly.
Your claim is that if we define prolonged overstimulation as something that doesn't cause suffering, then prolonged overstimulation doesn't cause suffering.

My claim is not a retarded truism. Your claim is.

You're probably screencapping my responses for your private 'My Most Epic Trolling Wins' scrapbook, so I have a message for you-20-years-from-now:

Was it worth it? Are you happy that you spent your childhood doing shit like this? Where are you now? Are you content? Married, maybe? I hope so. I hope you did okay in the end.

I'm surprised there isn't a game like... you play the part of someone's pet/sex slave. You as the player set your fetishes before hand for the master to express on your character so you can have control over the content, but sort of experience being controlled and used by someone else.

Like pick feminization and your master will slowly start to turn you, and you get the scenes from your perspective as a somewhat reluctant (or completely willing) and the master could be caring and loving, or malicious and cruel.

>>7000646
Are you literally incapable of recongizing that a fictional character does not necessarily follow logical rules?

Let me spell it out.

It's a character in a fap material picture.
No amount of overstimulation would necessarily cause her pain, physical or otherwise.
Because logic does not apply.
If you choose to believe she's suffering, that is your choice, and only yours, as the artist left no indication of such in the picture.

There. Is that simple enough, you fuck?

can't we all get along

>>7000678
No, fuck you.

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>>7000394
>Because logic does not apply.
>If we define prolonged overstimulation as something that doesn't cause suffering, then prolonged overstimulation doesn't cause suffering.
>That's totally not what I'm saying though.
>Even though it is.
>Because reasons.

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>>7000643
>schliked

>>7000678
only if you don't torture me with orgasms

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>>7000372
>pedantic
stopped reading here desu famalam

>>7000710
I found this post rather shallow and pedantic

>>7000643
Newlife is not a very good game. It's basically empty.

However I must credit the creator with the idea of freeform sex scenes. That was a very good idea and well implemented.

>>7000702
Bruh. Hate to break it to you, but 'it's fiction' is, in fact, a valid argument.

@FCDev

I think I have some kind of bug report for you or at least an inconsitency.

In 0.8.2.2 devotion of slaves in the servant's quarters can go into some kind of downward spiral even if they are at whorshipful (20.0). I have no idea why this happens because if I take them out auf the quarter's and let them serve in the main menu, everything's fine und the devotion rises like it normally would.

I didn't encouter this on my last playthrough at 0.7.11.2

>>7000710
What's wrong with calling something pedantic? A lot of people are pedantic about stuff.

>>7000731
>Nu-male
Is this the new cuck? I've been seeing it a lot lately.

>>7000731
I hope you don't think you're making some sort of coherent claim or something, because I'm wuting pretty hard here.

>>7000733
It's been trending for a while already, if I remember correctly the most recent one was Aids Skrillex

>>7000735
>Being this new

>>7000731
This guy? It's just the maker of Fez and he's a royal douche

>>7000736
Oh ok, so you're either baiting or functionally retarded then. Either way, time for me to walk away very slowly.

>>7000721
Making the guys argument, to quote my earlier post, 'a [appropriate and accurate insult redacted. substitute 'pointless'.] truism'.
>In a fictional world where prolonged overstimulation magically doesn't cause suffering, prolonged overstimulation doesn't cause suffering.

>>7000744
I mean, yeah, but at the same time complaining about hentai on account of what WOULD happen if the bullshit rules it follows weren't in place is kinda weird.

It's a bit like someone dropped Star Wars 'cause they really should've just died on the spot with all that lava around in that one scene.

>>7000725
Also, anyone else have a problem where slaves get stuck at 3 or so ambivalence and won't go into accepting even if 10 weeks pass?
Fearful or terrified doesn't seem to make a difference.

>>7000294
>https://itch.io/jam/lewd-jam-2016

so how do i view all games submitted?

>>7000710
someone doesn't enjoy proper vocabulary. Does your vernacular not hold that word?

>>7000748
I was making the point that even if physical pain and injury were discounted, feeling any strong sensation for a prolonged period of time would likely become extremely unpleasant. Mainly as a response to the guy who said he'd prefer continuous forced orgasms to sensory deprivation, but also as a general observation that most people probably don't consider.

Does anybody know what will increase approval of Roman Idealism in FC? The only one I can find is focusing on business.

>>7000784
>Roman Revivalism is a future society model. It:
>Approves of good leadership qualities like wealth and strong defense; disapproves of debt.

>>7000784
I haven't run Roman in a while so this may be outdated, but there's also pit fights, and providing for the defense of the arcology.

what's the difference between trapgirl, sissy, and bitch in FC?

>>7000808
Check the size of their balls and dicks. It had to do something with them.

>>7000808
Face shape, muscles and shoulders, and balls, as far as I can tell.

>>7000808
Can't you dick about with a new game custom slave thing? That usually helps with determining what affects a label.

>>7000427
Does anyone have a source for this? I neeeeed it

>>7000808
I know the difference between trapgirl and sissy is the face type - masculine and androgynous giving the latter, while average, sensual and exotic give the former.

Never saw bitch at all, so I wouldn't know abou that.

>>7000824
oh yeah never thought of that thanks.

>>7000824
Or just look in the game file; it's not like twine is hard to read.

>>7000835
No problem. Give word when you find out, now I'm curious myself. Never actually saw a sissy or bitch pop up.

>>7000832
It's hakaba's. I think private toilet? Check his work, it's all great anyway.

>>7000808
In addition to what >>7000834 said: if the shoulders are broad, it labels them as a bitch.

On a side note, there's a hilarious number of labels in the code, and oh boy are they a laugh. "Boobgirl" or "dickMILF", for instance.

Must've had a hell of a time writing that, FCDev.

Has anyone played FlowerFairy?
Not sure what I should be doing after beating the Slime boss. I found a grass area and a snow area but both seem like dead ends.

>>7000837
>>7000834
>>7000824
>>7000808
>>7000814
>>7000816

Thanks /d/egenerates, i've generally figured it out.

Trapgirl = cute/exotic face, breasts< 300cc, narrow shoulders. Dick and ball size have no effect, so hung traps are available.

Sissy = trapgirl but androgynous/masculine face

Bitch = trapgirl but broad shoulders.

Shemale = trapgirl but breasts> 300cc

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Pic related is now in english
>I want it
>but I'm broke
>going to buy it as soon as I have funds hope they do the second one
https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=187

>>7000896
>femdom
MODS!

>>7000869
>FlowerFairy?
tell me about this game, anon.

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Updated free version to 1.63

http://www.tfgamessite.com/index.php?module=viewgame&id=847

>>7000906
Hey, wasap.

>>7000904
Wrong thread ?
>has futa in it

>>7000920
>Wrong thread ?
The mods are smart and sensible people. As such, I assumed that they had banned femdom and other pleb fetishes to make room for classy fetishes like lezdom and maledom.

Sadly, they may not be as sensible as I thought.

>>7000906
Post a changelog you faggot.

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>>7000939
take your humor as humor

call you out for ironic shitposting is still shitposting

both. have my face.

>FC Alpha v 0.8.2.2.html
>Open with -> Notepad++
>ctrl + F: nigger
>Find: Can't find the text "nigger"
Really?

>>7000906
your game is garbage

>>7000290
source on the OP image?

>>7000906
>>7000940

Yeah, you've jumped quite a lot of version numbers there. What's been going on?

Or do you want to nickel and dime us over a public release?

>>7000883
source?

>>7000968
Don't know why that made me laugh.

>>7001025
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1770474

not getting the Parasite Infection new version, is the brain minigame supposed to not be completed?

>>7001056
"It's awesome but the Empire wasn't racist." has 6 downvotes and is hidden. It's a fucking normie zone now.

so I feel incompetent for asking, but I'm new here and the last 20 threads didn't illuminate anything, so when I've followed a link in the Game Catalog, how do I play the game from the new site? Even in the case of games playable by browser I honestly can't tell how to get said games in a browser to play.

>>7001094
I thought Palpatine was pretty human-supremacist. Has that been rendered non-canon with the de-canonization of Star Wars EU, or was it just fanon to begin with?
>>7001115
I honestly don't know what your issue is. Have you tried right-clicking the downloaded .html file and selecting "open with" then picking Chrome/Firefox/etc.?

FC update when?

>>7000731
What a disgusting way to think.

>>7001126
>https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1770474
For reference, I am trying this with Parasite Infection because that was what was being discussed when I found this thread. I followed the link to TFGamesSite, but the only links to the game I found were rar files and I don't understand why or how I would use one. I have tried opening said files in chrome, but it just gives me more of that rar file

>>7001135
also, I don't know why that greentext appeared in my post, but that is only more evidence for the incompetence theory

>>7001135

There may be images or other files external to the game which obviously need to be compressed to DL them. Get the rar, open it up and see what's inside before you extract it.

there should be an HTML in that, so long as that's in the same place as you extract any other shit, you just click and play that. Assuming Parasite dev hasn't done anything weird with his formatting.

>>7001127
>Next update August 29-30. Update plans are approximate and subject to change.

>>7001141
I cant do it lads, I'm starving here.

Also I've learned it looks like Parasite dev doesn't actually know how Patreon works. Or just has terrible formatting.

>>7000365
super fun idea. really like it dont stop now.

>>7001145
Starting a new game a day or two before he releases a new version just feels pointless.

But then it drops and you decide to wait a couple of days for hotfixes, meaning you only have a two-day window.

Damn FCdev and his habit of actually updating the game!

>>7000610
>>7001159
Most of the core systems are finished, so I'll be able to actually start adding content soon.

>>7001139
Should be run in Chrome, I've only ever tested it in Chrome. The brain minigame should work but I'm not sure if it's broken in Internet Explorer.

>>7001153
What do you mean

>>7000940
Added chapter 6

>>7001167

Well, I've seen Patreons with like, goals or whatever on the side "give me so much money a month so I can do X", but if I'm reading it it looks like you have those as like, distinct patron tiers to like, pay for your Adobe or whatever. Without necessarily getting higher rewards. But again, maybe it's just not cleanly formatted.

Also, y'know, public changelog would be nice. I don't mind you doing your hustle or whatever but my last version is 1.51 and now you've released 1.63, that's a lot of numbers you skipped there and I have no idea what was in them. You're going to the trouble of making it public, no need to keep shit in the walled garden.

>>7001174
>Without necessarily getting higher rewards
Too much gib money 4 diksuk on pattytron anyway

>>7001174

If by walled garden you mean walls of incompetence...

Basically all thats changed is that I've added chapter 6. I'm looking for a real artist for the game now that I have a small budget, although it feels like most of the good artists would drain all the money I get monthly for 6 pictures. If I can't find a good one, I'll have to buckle down and improve my artwork a few tiers. I'd prefer not to though. The code is getting complicated, but a nice person is helping me with that right now. The big issue is integrating Canvas into Twine.

As far as tiers go, I can't really offer much else at this point. I think this month I'll be creating some content for people who pledged more but honestly what can I do, I'm not going to start sending out hats to people, and I don't do that whole 'vote on the next feature' thing.

>>7000906
>Parasite Infection 1.63.rar
>.rar
Use 7zip you freedom-hating Neanderthal.

Ranching 101 continues. Not sure how long I'll keep at it since my main rig is getting put back with all of the WIP stuff for the alpha of my other project.

Added:
- Games can now be saved and loaded.
- Futa cows have harvest text.
- Placeholder text for love pen masturbation and sex scenes. They should properly detect how many and what combination of cows, bulls, and futa cows are contained in the pen.

Changed:
- Love Pens cost raised (should no longer have negative price).

Fixed:
- Minor text fixes.
- Love Pens pricing should no longer be negative (raised base cost).

Windows, Mac, and Linux binaries available:
https://mega.nz/#!4FdAACYK!spz9ubiF83QugQQ-6HZGbiY7snGMqAfX-Sj8ZDRSZfc

As usual, source code is available for inspection on gitlab. Feel free to contribute.

>>7000414
>I am I retarded?
Yes.

>>7001166

Question for you Screamer: I understand the mechanics behind getting different accounts linked, but what needs to happen for the player to have their RL identity exposed? For example, if you only have one account and you never show your face, does the chance of being doxxed just go up with your fame?

>>7001135
>>7001138
Ok, you're around 6 years too young to be using computers. Please go away and learn.

>>7001184

Well, got a bug riddle for you, my friend. Brain minigame doesn't work in Firefox (you can clear the top row but then nothing happens), and the HTML for Parasite Infection doesn't work in Chrome (gives a "failed to replaceState on History" error common with Twine). So, might want to look into that.

>>7001384
replaceState sounds like a loading issue. I'd be more concerned if I wasn't doing unspeakable things to the java/css every time I update. I kind of expect loads to be broken, that's why I put all those shortcuts in the beginning.

Brain minigame not working in firefox - I'll look at that later, I don't even have firefox but once I start to polish the game I'll try to get it working on all browsers.

Thanks for posting

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>>7000631
I guess I'm an idiot and found a manual in the game's files. I don't understand the purpose of the curse, flash, bomb, or meteor are supposed to do. But it looks like the point is to use combinations of traps to get around and also pull off sick combos before finishing off enemies so that you can open up the red portals and activate h-mode to change your body. Still no luck getting the text from anywhere else and I have no idea what triggers any of the mutations/transformations. The first time I found a lot of huge breast options and the 2nd time I found basically nothing interesting but the start of a penis.

The gameplay is kind of neat, but it kind of falls short since you really just do make up your own combo moves to get the most score or decide which direction you want to turn in. By default the white princess hugs the right wall and the black princess hugs the left wall and they'll turn into every single nook and cranny on the map unless you use your traps to guide them around. It'd be much more interesting if there were patrolling enemies or traps that you had to manipulate along with your princess and I guess at that point it wouldn't be terribly different from a 2D Deception game.
I'd give it a kind of neat / 10. Bonus points for actually being a game and not just "choose your 3 favorite fetishes and read along".

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>>7001392

Well, it is a loading issue, in that the game literally does not load when you open it.

The redacted portions are the unimportant parts of the file location.

>>7000786
Yeah, but what does that mean? I'm making money but I'm not getting any approval (apparently, I had to focus on business before I got the approval). Also, what does "focusing on defense" mean? Spending money to pick the most valuable defense options?

>>7000787
>pit fights
Ahh, haven't really had those. Thanks.

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>>7000906

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>>7001384
>Brain minigame doesn't work in Firefox
>the HTML for Parasite Infection doesn't work in Chrome
Both of these are false. Your computer is a bit fucked up, mate.
Are your browsers up to date?

>>7000631
>>7001393
got dlsite code or jap name to search for?

>>7000294

It would be really help, if devs from /d/ are actually participating in it. For devs it would be a way to get their work out in front of the world I guess. I think it would be interesting to see what comes of it. It's actually originally organized by /vg/.

>>7000758

Games will show up as "entries" after the jam starts, and when devs submit their games to itch.

>>7001456
Not him but that game only works if I start a fresh file.
Always softlocks at the end if I try to use my old file.

>>7001456

Should be, literally just updated Firefox. I can't be up to date on chrome, since they discontinued support for older OS and, y'know, it's not like I'm made of money for a new computer.

If you complete the puzzle (with Firefox), what is it supposed to do? I clear the three purple neurons but then nothing else happens.

>>7001479

Inability to use old saves is common, I started fresh and when I get to the end the puzzle just goes nowhere.

>>7001482
>when I get to the end the puzzle just goes nowhere
Yeah same thing if i use my old file.
Don't know what to tell ya buddy.

>>7001482
>I can't be up to date on chrome, since they discontinued support for older OS
Use Opera, then. It's objectively better and still supports older versions of Windows.

>>7001485

Fresh install gives the same error as Chrome here >>7001396 on start.

>>7001496
What happens if you launch it with the parameter "--allow-file-access-from-file"?

>>7001482
Okay other people have had this issue - try restarting the game, not loading, and then skipping to chapter 5 (it's pretty short, just hit continue all the way through till you reach 6)

>>7001396
It doesn't start at all? That's weird, most people can get it to start. It has issues trying to load saves though.

Free Cities more than any other game underlines the contradictions of my character. On one hand I'm inclined to do the worst possible things to my slaves. Their suffering and dehumanization is the precise object of my desire.

On the other hand doing what I want to do to them makes me feel very bad, since it precisely contradicts my sense of justice, which tells me to give them the jobs they want and let them retire as free citizens so that their lives don't go to waste. In fact if I could go overboard with the paternalism and give them non sexual jobs I would absolutely do that.

I'm a very conflicted arcology owner.

This is the interesting thing even about such perverted RPG like Free Cities. They're always a mirror of your morals.

Of maybe 10 playthroughs I can only imagine one being a degredatory tyrant with arcades, Terror and high slave fluctuation.

In 90% of all games I will do the same paternalistic route with VERY scarce reselling. Man I still remember needing 7 complete runs of BG2 before my first evil route. And that fucking human skin armor wasn't even worth it.

>>7001699
You're a lot like me.
I badly want to see them suffer terrible things, and this desire seems to go beyond what FCDev is willing to add to the game. (Though I don't know if it's about morals or "m-muh lore and realism") I want very young slaves, though I know, understand and respect FCDevs decision. I have the desire to see them somehow getting raped by animals and I wish there'd be more context if you make a pregnant or crawling slave fight in the pit. In fact, I would love more context for the pit overall. Most fights read themselves like they're over really fast, and I would like extended scenarios with more violence if two participants are equally matched, or if one is a sadist and takes fun in prolonging the event. That one gladiator-event was also diamonds. The one where your BG's opponent is completely inferior and pisses herself before the show. Would love more piss in fighting events overall.

But at the same time I feel like I need a reason to cut someones limbs or tendons. I feel like it needs to be just. I am the guy (or at least one of them, if there were multiple) that suggested the vignette system. I try to submit what comes to mind, but currently I feel (While the system itself is good!) like it didn't yet achieve what I wanted it for: To give me the feeling that because Slave A did something bad, I have the right to punish her now!
There are some negative vignettes in which slaves fuck up, but it's often in a context that makes it not their fault, like that one where a slave owner punishes his property publicly and thus cutting into their business.
I'll probably submit some more vignettes that say "She fucked it up and it's entirely her own fault" in an hour or so.

>>7001699
I always play it as arbitrary tyrant. On the one hand I have a cherished harem of waifus who are protected and loved. On the other hand anyone who is superfluous is sold to whoever can pay the most regardless of their intentions or forced into the arcade.

There's also the whole "muting and amputating the limbs of a slave just because you want an 18 year old living fleshlight" thing.

>>7001707
>On the other hand anyone who is superfluous is sold to whoever can pay the most regardless of their intentions or forced into the arcade.
As a Pastoralist, I tend to shove them into the industrial dairy instead. For the aforementioned "cherished harem of waifus" I go as Paternalist as possible, while still giving them tits as huge and milky as possible.

>>7001706
I think you overstate our similarity. I absolutely agree with the entirety of the first paragraph, but I don't want excuses to hurt my slaves. I would know they are excuses after all. The point is that in the occasion that a slave did fuck up, I would still consider it unjust to entertain inhumane treatment (even though I want to treat them guro-tier badly, I don't want to want to) and would probably just forgive her. Hell, my most straightforwardly favorite scenes are where you console your slaves (like the shower scene, or the overused ambivalent whore one)

>>7001707
I want an 18 year old living fleshlight, too. But on the other hand I'd feel bad for her so I don't. Please send help.

>>7001714
>But on the other hand I'd feel bad for her so I don't

Try and get a criminal or prisoner of war so you feel justified.


I also try and make them as intelligent as possible so they can appreciate the full horror of their situation but that's just me.

>>7001714
>I think you overstate our similarity.
Oh, fair enough. Do your thing, bro.

>>7001716
But that would be unjust though, that's the entire point of my predicament!

I just do degradationist runs where I pretend to be someone mustache-twirlingly evil. I find rationalizations of unethical behaviour risky for my prized moral integrity.

Seriously though. I would be more willing to get my living fleshlight if it wasn't permanent, so that I could get a worshipful girl with the respective fetish processed, then eventually fix her up.

>>7001699
>>7001706
I know what you mean, fampais.

In my case, it's really just that unnecessary, pointless cruelty feels hollow for me. Entertaining a few times, maybe - watching the reactions to random intense body modding, amputation, vocal chord removal and what have you.

But it's a case where the shock and despair provides only short-term satisfaction, whereas grooming the slaves to love being exactly what I want them to be is more of a slow burn, so to speak.

Not to mention taking in mistreated slaves and being their personal savior makes my dick diamonds.

But then so does reducing all those shitty people you get to enslave in events to the status of living onaholes, so y'know.

>>7001752
>Not to mention taking in mistreated slaves and being their personal savior makes my dick diamonds.

Now this is me.

Also I noticed a discrepancy with FC. When you give unaccepting girls a degrading name they dislike that, but giving a girl her maiden name back doesn't make her feel happy (such
as for instance fixing her tendons or unmuting her)

Waiting for those robotic appendages. Then I can get mindbroken quadamps from the shelter and slowly transform them into loyal cyborg bodyguards of deadly efficiency.

>>7001714
>I want an 18 year old living fleshlight, too.
The reason why I suggested the shelter was so that I could get fucked up slaves without having to fuck them up myself. Of course, that's more paternalist than degradationist.

>>7001750
>I just do degradationist runs where I pretend to be someone mustache-twirlingly evil. I find rationalizations of unethical behaviour risky for my prized moral integrity.
Whenever I force myself to do an evil run for the sake of variety, I try to be harsh but fair. If you do X, you get punished with Y. Lawful Evil bothers me less than abusing slaves at random.

>>7001754
>Waiting for those robotic appendages.
The setting is too sci-fi as it is. We don't need muh cyborgs running around.

>>7001755
I think it bothers you less because lawful evil is predictable, so contemplating life under a lawful evil master from the slave's perspective is less scary, because you know that whatever he may like doing, you can conform your behaviour so that you can have a sort of decent existence. With chaotic evil it's all unpredictable, and this adds to the felt helplessness, you don't know what to do to avoid harm, because there is no overarching rule that governs when it is dished out. You just have to live in fear and hope you'll be lucky enough to get out of it, but nothing you do really matters. So with lawful evil you maintain some independence, in that it is at least partially up to you where you end up.

>>7001758
I don't think mechanic arms and legs are too sci-fi, personally. I think it'd fit perfectly well in the setting. Now, if we were talking about half-robotic brains and mind uploads then yeah, that'd be too scifi for the setting.

>>7001758
Between the shit the drugs can do, the extent of body-modding, AI and fucking power armor, I seriously don't think considering cyborgs the breaking point is anywhere near reasonable.

>>7001765
>the shit the drugs can do, the extent of body-modding, AI and fucking power armor [...] cyborgs

>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?
>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?
>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?
>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?
>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?
>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?

>>7001772
Yeah. Exactly. What's your point?

>>7001772
I honestly think that growing vocal cords and transplanting them so that someone can regain the ability to speak is far more scifi than mechanical limbs offering some degree of mobility to cripples. The technology basically already exists. It's just not refined yet.

On one hand I find girls that are terrified cute, so I can't bring myself to hurt them. It just awakens my paternalist tendencies. I want to console them and assuage their fears. On the other hand if she knows what I can do to her and she is still defiant, I kind of have to respect that. I can't just put her down.

>>7001774
Though I must say this, I can see robolimbs being a thing you can create only if you get some more expensive upgrade, like with the pharmaceutical fab and upgraded surgery.

>>7001773
That slopes are slippery.

>>7001774
Slippery slopes can cover the other direction too. "Oh, well. We already added 10, so let's add 9 and 8 too."

>>7001775
This reminds me. Is there even a point to the girls being afraid rather than devoted? It seems it's more or less inevitable to end up with the latter, unless you go moustache-twirling or stick them in the industrial dairy.

>>7001777
Your argument makes no sense to me. I'm saying that the setting as it already exists entails more advanced technology than would be required to create artificial limbs, and that therefore adding the latter is in no way inconsistent with the rest of the setting.

You should explain why that isn't the case without having to resort to informal fallacy bingo, which is simply not a substitute for a coherent argument.

>>7001778
Them being afraid make them more liable to obey, and hence raises the devotion stat faster. Very low fear may even result in devotion hits (since she trusts that you won't hurt her and therefore openly disobeys you and resents you),

>>7001782
In fact it would be inconsistent not to add that. It's like making a world where they have spaceships but not boats. This is an inconsistent world.

>>7001782
>the setting as it already exists entails more advanced technology than would be required to create artificial limbs, and that therefore adding the latter is in no way inconsistent with the rest of the setting.
That's just an excuse to make things worse. Adding a single thing from tech level 8 can be tolerated even by people who would prefer TL6, but the problem is that people use it as the thin end of the wedge.
"This one single thing at TL8 exists, so why not add another one at TL7? And another one. And one at TL8. We already have something that advanced, after all. In fact, why not add everything from TL7? We have two things at TL8, you know. It would be inconsistent NOT to have everything from TL7! And since we have two things at TL8, why not add another one? Also, we now have three things at TL8, so what's the big deal about adding one little thing from TL9?"

>>7001787
This is some impressive autism. Were you the guy screeching about overstimulation earlier in the thread?

>>7001789
>u have the AUTISM!
>haha I win
Okay buddy.

>>7001787
Your incredulity aside, the argument you are faux-quoting is sound. You are just reporting your emotional dissatisfaction with a certain possibility in spite of the fact that it would be inconsistent not to add it. And that's ok. You don't have to like robotic limbs. You also don't need to try and rationalize your dislike as if it were inconsistent with FC's tech level, because it simply isn't.

>>7001794
I'm not talking about the current state of the fluff, I'm talking about how the fluff gradually changes, and how people use those changes to justify further changes ad infinitum. The slope really is slippery.
If FCdev adds mind uploading and the ability to have slaves ascend to a state of pure energy in today's update, then planet-wide terraforming wouldn't be "inconsistent with FC's tech level". So what?
Fiction can be rewritten to be compatible with anything. The question is, should it?

>the argument you are faux-quoting is sound.
Frog boiling is sound now? Try replacing >>7001787 with:
"This one single thing at TL8 exists, so we should add everything at TL7, several at TL8, and at least one thing at TL9."

Of course, then you're in a situation where
"This one single thing at TL9 exists..."

>>7001787
...yeah, except you're just going maximum hyperbole here, rather than providing an actual argument.

Assuming there is one beyond you not liking it. Which I'd get, mind, but... y'know. Just say so.

>>7001808
The argument is that we've slipped far enough down the slope, and that I don't think we should slip any further.

>>7001809
But there is no slope. The setting was rather sci-fi to begin with - I'm fairly sure FC Dev had a pretty solid tech level in mind starting off, hence the superdrugs and power armor being in there either from the start, or soon after.

I seriously can't see an argument here, beyond you disliking the sci-fi level and accusing everyone of being incapable of saying on said level given any leeway, or whatever.

>>7001806
You added "and at least one thing at TL9", but there is no reason that TL9 things should be added, for reasons of consistency. Therefore the only criterion left to us to evaluate them is whether we want the game to take that direction or not, since it has not already taken it.

At any rate, the point is that the argument that robolimbs are inconsistent with the technological level of FC is false and therefore this can not be advanced a a reason not to include them. A reason not to include them could be that we don't like them or FC dev doesn't. But at the very least several people do seem to like them. The point is that all your bluster is an attempt to rationalize your preference against robolimbs, which is kind of silly thing you don't need to do.

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>>7001809
You're killing me! Wow! This is far worse than the guy obsessing about overstimulation.

I really hope FCDev is going to give us Robo-limbs some day! Can't wait for the day I can stop cutting my slaves tendons to make them crawl, but rather amputate their limbs and give them new ones that disable walking or using their hands completely! All inspired by one certain picture that has been very popular in here.

Let's see if you can help me recall a /d/ game, I remember it was an executable with a bunch of transformation stuff akin to CoC, you were in a city with a bunch of locations you could visit, there was a brothel where you could work or be a customer, a park where you could swim or run laps, a river creek with some lewd events, there was a lab for alchemy stuffs. Then there was a wilderness where you fought monsters, collected reagents for the alchemy, and there were some events too, such as a god tier amazon orgasm denial scene. I also remember a spring somewhere in the wilderness that feminized you if you took a bath in it.

>>7001811
Actually no, you didn't add it, I just didn't notice it at the beginning.

But it's clear that robolimbs are not equivalent to the T9 in your argument but with the T8, so my point stands.

>>7001815
I don't think I have seen the picture you are talking about

>>7001816
No idea what the game is but it sounds interesting.

>>7001817
Much more to the T7!
T7 would be robo-limbs we don't have, even though we already have super drugs from T8
and T9 would be planet-wide terraforming.
In conclusion T9 is super sci-fi and shouldn't be in FC, T8 is relatively sci-fi and already is in FC and T7 is a lot less sci-fi than T8 but isn't in the game yet, for some reason!

>>7001820
Even though I was the guy that mentioned the picture I didn't save it. Maybe someone else has it?

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>>7001823
This one?

I'm fond of that one pic of a MEC trooper getting cuddled, personally.

>>7001825
Exactly that one!
That's JUST what I want in FC!
Cut a slaves limbs and choose from a nice selection of robo-limbs. Normal ones that almost look like legs, ones that are obviously a machine and a few that resemble animal legs and prevent walking or using their hands!
I could make cats, dogs, horses, pigs etc.

>>7001825
The one where the sheets get caught in the mechanism of her limbs and she's otherwise cold?

Because that's the picture I have in mind as far as robolimbs are concerned.

>>7001828
Yep. I can't remember who did that one, so I haven't had luck finding it.

>>7001830
I have it. I'm at work right now, but I'll post it when I get back home, if no one else does before that time.

>>7001810
>The setting was rather sci-fi to begin with
It sure as hell didn't have organ cloning or cybernetic limbs.

>>7001811
>You added "and at least one thing at TL9", but there is no reason that TL9 things should be added, for reasons of consistency.
That's the problem. All it takes is a single item at or near TL9 to open the floodgates of people screaming about "consistency".

>>7001817
>But it's clear that robolimbs are not equivalent to the T9 in your argument but with the T8, so my point stands.
Tech Level is just a vague abstraction. As long as something at ~TL8.3 exists, people can ask for something at ~TL8.7 because it's "pretty much the same level". Once the ~TL8.7 item is in the game, people can ask for something at ~TL9.3 because it's "pretty much the same level" as the ~TL8.7 thing. And then ~TL9.0 becomes the new normal, and the whole thing happens again.

We can't actually quantify technological progress, so we don't have any way of saying "TL8.231 but no higher".

>>7001811
>At any rate, the point is that the argument that robolimbs are inconsistent with the technological level of FC is false and therefore this can not be advanced a a reason not to include them.
The more TL7 you add, the more of a foundation people will have to stand on when they ask for more TL8. The more TL8 you add, the more of a foundation people will have to stand on when they ask for more TL9. It's a vicious cycle.

>>7001815
>Wow! Dude! Buddy! Your argument is, like, so dumb because reasons! I am literally laughing! Haha! That's how wrong you are because reasons! HAHA!

>>7001834
When your whole point hinges on "I sincerely believe people are going to be retarded and go too far", it's generally time to come up with better, actual arguments.

Because no matter how retarded people may or may not be, arguing against something on account of believing others to be dumb is only going to make you come off as a bit of a douche.

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>>7001832
Bless you.

>>7001791
You could've just said yes.

>>7001834
>That's the problem. All it takes is a single item at or near TL9 to open the floodgates of people screaming about "consistency".

I don't think it does, as evidenced by my argument. At any rate, the crux of my point is that when we're discussing a feature there are some cases where arguments from consistency can disqualify or mandate something, but in most cases, due to the malleable nature of fantastic worlds, which you yourself have noticed, they fall flat, and what does matter is whether we want that feature added or not. I see no reason to beat around the bush. Robolimbs are one such case, where they obviously don't conflict with the setting and which I personally like because they'd allow me to be a dick or entertain my savior fetish a lot more effectively. We can talk about what is of substance or we can beat around the bush and make silly arguments about floodgates opening, which we have no reason to think they will, unless people find some ideas of augmentations independently interesting or pleasant. No one is going to ask for terraforming just because.

>all this "bionic limbs are too advanced!" autism
For fucks sake we have really good bionics right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NOncx2jU0Q

>>7001847
>No one is going to ask for terraforming just because
I kinda wanna make a joke about making the earth itself your slave and taking modifications their logical conclusion, but honestly I'm kinda stumped.

>>7001850
>but honestly I'm kinda stumped.

Nothing that cant be fixed with some nice homegrown bionics

>>7001837
>When your whole point hinges on "I sincerely believe people are going to [...] go too far", it's generally time to come up with better, actual arguments.
You've clearly never played a game that got taken over by furries, subs, and/or waifufags.

>>7001847
>silly arguments about floodgates opening
>I disagree, which makes your argument silly
There is nothing "silly" about it. He added organ farms, and now people are using that to try to get other things included.
"After all, you can already clone body parts, so what's the big deal about X?"

>No one is going to ask for terraforming just because.
There are people with mind uploading fetishes. There are people with Mystique-style instant shapeshifting fetishes. There are people with limb-regrowing fetishes. There are people with body-swapping fetishes. There are people with monster girl fetishes.
And don't say "oh, he'd never include that, that's too far". A year ago people would have said the same thing about the ability to clone fully functional dicks and balls and attaching them to people.

>>7001471
RJ170963

>>7001850
Are you stumped because the trees were cut down?

Does anyone know off the top of their head the last version of FC to have the trainer assignment in it? There's an event tied to that job that I want to salvage and refit for the school teacher.

>>7001772
>Technology always stays in one place. How could it possibly go that far?
Nice meme

>>7001849
We can do all kinds of shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbrrXJRYjik
>Chives on during a press conference about an incredibly advanced procedure

>>7001952
>>Technology always stays in one place. How could it possibly go that far?
The game only spans a period of approximately two or three years.

>>7001986
look at how fast we are moving nowadays. Self Driving cars are becoming a reality. Imagine if there was a guy with damn near infinite funds and no rules to hold him back/No agencies to report to?

>>7001986
In the future with advanced technology. Who are you to say what is too far.

>>7001991
That doesn't mean that anything goes. People keep pushing the boundaries to insert their fetishes, and every time they do, the Overton window shifts and the next boundary push becomes even easier.

>>7001994
>Who are you to say/do/think X?
Words can not express how annoying and hollow that argument is.

>>7001863
>subs as bad as the other two
nice meme

Also, I have. But there is one big difference between shit like CoC and FC, and that's the dev. FC Dev is hardly known for giving in just due to the extent of the appeal - he has an actual vision for what he wants the game to be, and mostly adds only content he either approves of or doesn't mind.

Which leaves two options.
Either he tells the people who try to push too far to shut the fuck up, in which case crisis averted, or he agrees with them that such progression makes sense for his own setting, in which case, I mean, it's his work.

>>7001986
>It is the year 2037, and the past 21 years
Nice meme

So if I want to make a game but have no coding experience, are there any of these various engines that'd work? More RPG-styled than anything, preferably, though I could do a VN setup I guess.

>>7002016
First figure out what sort of game it is you want to make (mechanics-wise), then find a thing that can do that.

>>7002005
now you know how your life feels

>>7002012
>FC Dev is hardly known for giving in just due to the extent of the appeal - he has an actual vision for what he wants the game to be, and mostly adds only content he either approves of or doesn't mind.
Everyone is susceptible to group pressure to some extent. If enough people ask for a certain thing every time there's a new update, he might just give in and add it.
Besides, slippery slopes are subtle. Unless you have a design document detailing what you want your setting to be like, it's easy to drift from your original idea to something completely different just by giving in to a long series of individually minor suggestions, especially if those suggestions all push in the same direction.

>it's his work.
Something obvious enough that I didn't mention it. Yes, it is obviously his game, and if he wants to add robot limbs or age acceleration drugs or advanced genetic engineering he has every right to. I'd still think (and probably say) that it's a bad idea, but I couldn't (and wouldn't) stop him.

>>7002014
The hell are you talking about? I'm comparing what the tech level of FC was early on during the games development to what it is now.
I assumed that your comment
>Technology always stays in one place. How could it possibly go that far?
suggested that even if the game starts out at X, it could change into X+Y after a certain amount of in-universe time had passed. Something that's not really feasible because the in-game fluff support only extends about two years from the time you acquire the arcology (which is why we can't enslave our children after 936 turns have passed).

>>7001991
>Imagine if there was a guy with damn near infinite funds and no rules to hold him back/No agencies to report to?
In a world rife with war, conflict, corruption, natural disasters and massive resource shortages.

>>7002016
Twine for simple stuff (or Free Cities if you're an absoloute mad man) Renpy for easy making VN and choice games with more images. RPG maker is great ttoo but it all depends on what youre trying to make realy.

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>>7000832
It's Hakaba - Private Toilet

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/575372/d2c092c021/

I think a second chapter is out, but I don't think it has been translated yet.

in case you didn't find it yourself

>>7001825
>>7001843
Here it is.

>>7001863
>He added organ farms, and now people are using that to try to get other things included.

Robolimbs were requested long before organ farms became a thing. What's silly is that you keep pretending that adding things or tech is a bad thing as such, while the point I'm illustrating is that whether a feature should be added, except for edge cases, should have to do with what the feature itself is actually about and whether we like that thing or not. My view is that you [ersist on this line of argument because you don't really have anything to say about why robotic limbs themselves are a bad thing. You don't like them, but you can't offer any reason we shouldn't either. People asking for more isn't unambiguously bad. What they are asking for in particular is what might be a good or bad idea.

>>7002043
Something in the vein of [spoiler]TiTS/CoC without furrybait[/spoiler]. Aiming for the same general layout. Is that even realistic to do off one of the major engines?

>>7002045
>Robolimbs were requested long before organ farms became a thing.
And organ farms gave more fuel to the people asking for them.
"We have organ farms, so we should have robolimbs to keep things consistent."
"We have organ farms and robolimbs, so we should have X to keep things consistent."
"We have organ farms, robolimbs and X, so we should have Y to keep things consistent."

>My view is that you [ersist on this line of argument because you don't really have anything to say about why robotic limbs themselves are a bad thing.
I have already explained that about five times now. I think robolimbs are another bucket of lube poured on a slope that is already far too slippery.

>What they are asking for in particular is what might be a good or bad idea.
Depending on the consequences of implementing that thing.

>>7002056
>I have already explained that about five times now.

No, you haven't. Even in this post you advance no reason why that feature would be a bad thing. You're only saying that it may result in people asking for more features, without of course being able to predict what those might be. This is not much of an argument. What if they ask for more great things? That would be doubly good.

>>7002041
Alright, I'll give you that no one is fully immune to pressure - at the very least, there's a 'fuck it then' point where resisting is too tedious to keep up.
However, FC Dev's stance on what he will and will not allow has been pretty solid and consistent in all other respects.

...and, what's more, I honestly still don't see what your argument is supposed to convey beyond your dislike, if anything - because you're presenting the inclusion as mechanical limbs as purely negative (when it's subjective) with the only justification being that it MIGHT, potentially, lead to something more.

And I mean, it might. But is the potential of an issue arising really all it takes to discard an idea? I really don't think so.

>>7002056
Alright, to your your style of argument around.
>Going outside might result in getting mugged, better not

You see? Hyperbole and speculation proves nothing.

>>7002068
FC should have been a game about anarchoprimitivists rather than ancaps. Only then could we be certainly safe from the terrible slippery slope into Star Trek.

>>7002041
>Pretending FC didn't start with super drugs
Nice meme

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>>7002045
Thanks, anon.

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Guys, I like impregnating cow girls, but I also like gently dominating dickgirls. What do? I can't have both Traditionalism and Radicalism.

>>7002050
Twine could probably do that, Prety sure sinse twine can do random encounters from a list it would be the best way of doing something close to CoC. Good luck

>>7002096
I mean, you CAN have Pastoralism and Radicalism, though, can't you?

>>7002041
The entire basis of your argument is a fallacy so famous that everyone knew it was bullshit 2500 years ago. That doesn't seem like a problem to you?

>>7002096
What's the reason for wanting Traditionalism? It's not apparent from your description of the problem.

>>7002065
>You're only saying that it may result in people asking for more features, without of course being able to predict what those might be.
Tech that's even further away from the established tech level of the setting, which, in turn, will pave the way for requests for even more advanced tech, ad infinitum.

>What if they ask for more great things? That would be doubly good.
They can already ask for whatever they want to.

>>7002109
>I am dumb enough to believe that the slippery slope metaphor is always fallacious
Good for you. Go away.

>>7002068
>>7002078
>>Going outside might result in getting mugged
>it MIGHT, potentially, lead to something more.
It will, absolutely, 100% certain, lead to requests for even more advanced technology backed up by statements like "we already have cybernetic limbs, so what's the big deal". The question is whether or not FCdev will accede. FCdev is one of my favorite frogs, and I don't want to boil him.

>>7002121
It's fallacious the way that you're using it. You're not providing any evidence or even a proper argument. If that's not fallacious, I don't know what is.

>>7002121
As evidenced before, cybernetic limbs are actually LESS advanced than what we already have. While they can be used as an argument for future requests, they would be no more basis for technologically advanced additions than what is already present.

And so, they will change nothing.

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>>7002112
Impregnating. Cow girls.

>>7002103
But I can't impregnate a dickgirl cow can I? [spoiler]Can I?[/spoiler]

>>7002121
Just give it a rest. This is not what we're saying. We're not saying that he should include cybernetic limbs because their technology is consistent with the technology of FC. We're saying that we want him to include them because they are excellent fetish fuel for many people, and that they can't be disqualified merely for the reason that they are inconsistent with FC, because they aren't.

>>7002130
I mean not without a pussy, no, but having Traditionalism won't change that. If they have it, you can go wild with or without the society.

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>>7002138
But why would I want pussies if I'm going for Radicalism?

>>7002146
I don't know. Because impregnation?

Pretty sure you can't impregnate asses and/or boypussies regardless of your society model, though.

if you want robolimbs, post pictures and comments that make fcdev's dick diamonds at the thought of robolimbs

arguing about tech levels and setting canon is boring and won't convince him either way, appeal to his penis and you'll be going places

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>>7000731
>"nu-male"

back to your hiveminding session aka >>>/pol/

>>7002130
>Impregnating. Cow girls.
This has nothing to do with Traditionalism (which basically just wants slaves that don't have balls).
>But I can't impregnate a dickgirl cow can I?
You can if she has a working set of ovaries and a vagina to match.

>>7002146
There's two laws for Radicalism. One for dick+vag, and another for dick only. Ergo, Radicalism doesn't necessarily mean "no pussies ever".

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>>7002156
says the dumbfrogposter

Everyone, please stop replying to the clearly autistic guy.

Here's an FC-esque excerpt from a not-yet-published story, slightly altered to be even more FCesque, just to get your mind away from all the autism.

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He moaned and outstretched his arms. A smile crossed his face as his arm fell to his sides. He was already busy with the one who slept beside him. She was a rather recent project, and she had yet to leave his bed in all these weeks since they had finished with her. She had smooth, almost glistening, deep black skin. Her flawlessly constructed chest stood out proudly, defying gravity. Her hair was in a small afro, placing a cushion around her head a little over half an inch thick. Her lips were puffed, and began to part after she felt the touch of his hand. He pulled his pillowgirl closer until her limbless torso was pressed up against him. He moved his finger down to stimulate her clit, always stimulated as it were by her smart-piercing.

She moaned her gargled kind of moan. With the modifications to her vocal folds, it was now nearly the only kind of sound she can make. Her teeth had been removed and her mouth was filled with hundreds of dangling nubs on nearly every surface but her tongue. It left her constantly salivating, and makes every moan or cry come out wet and gargled. He looked over at her. He had kept her eyebrows, but a patch of artificial skin now covered the space between them and her cheeks. Her eyes can still open, still close, but with a covering over top of them they are effectively useless now. Her ear canal was similarly plugged, and with further manipulation at the Cochlear nerves, her hearing can be turned off or on remotely. He had not found need to try the “on” at all since she had first woken up to her new state. He prefered to think of her plunged in isolation. She had not even met him before the procedures, she has no idea what he looks like and yet exists entirely on his whims.

Part 2/3

Once he had risen for the morning and did what he felt like doing to her, he had never once returned midday to her and by night he was usually exhausted by the time he returned to his room. Aside from the mornings and an occasional visit from the women charged with handling her rather unique upkeep demands, she was left completely alone. She was trapped to lay there with her clit perpetually stimulated and no way to do anything about anything, let alone anything about that.

“Morning my little fuck-pillow” he said as he flipped her over onto her front. Her lower end was made of two large almost spherical ass cheeks. Visible between them was not only her swolen pussy but an equally enhanced asshole. It was not only slick, coated daily to keep it that way, but ribbed throughout with a series of silicone rings deforming the inside. As he slid his hard wet dick into it she began to moan a garbled moan again. Whenever the rings detect the pressure of a cock, it turns her chip up to overdrive. Higher even than had he stuck his dick in her soft tight pussy, though not as high as when the nubs in her mouth detect seminal fluid. He pressed down on her back, holding her firm against the bed as he began to quicken his pace. Her moans took on a desperate tone, punctuating in rhythm to his thrusts. Held at the edge as she always was, it took very little time for the anal stimulation and the higher setting of her piercing for her to cascade into orgasm. She managed to get nearly to a third before he pulled his cock out and flipped her around. She opened her mouth, sure of where his cock was heading next.

Part 3/3

When he placed his cock in her mouth, she bit down on it, well as hard as her slightly modified jaw muscles would allow her to without pain. A firmness that only made the pressure feel intense to his cock and not painful. Her tongue slid around the underside of his shaft, pressing its top have against as many of the nubs on the roof of her mouth as she could. It felt amazing to his cock and to her as well. Each new sensor that tasted his seminal fluids would buy her more pleasure, more relief more completion. The first it triggered came quickly. She nearly coughed as his cock made it more difficult to breath a dry breath to shout the ecstasy she was feeling. Soon enough he came, covering most of her mouth in his cum and a sudden symphony cascaded over her. It did not wait for one orgasm to begin before another started. Even after he withdrew his cock she made sure to swish it around her mouth quickly before swallowing it. She had been told while she could hear that she must always swallow or the pleasure would be canceled and replaced with several hours of pain. She had experienced the pain once, and did not plan on ever doing that again. She would spend the next ten or so minutes lurching orgasm to orgasm as she experienced the completed payment of a job well done. It was exhausting, and by the end she knew from experience she would likely fall right to sleep again.

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>>7002151
>can't impregnate boypussies

Sadly not. Maybe I could make them look pregnant by filling their boypussies with stuff. How much liquid can the human rectum hold anyway?

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>>7001597
>In order to simplify things, there are going to be some quick assumptions made:
>- Everyone is going to call your original body Chloe from now on.
>- The game assumes you took the bodysuit enhancements in the labs, but did not get infested by the Thresher. Rene has been infested in the labs, and because of the chaos she is still infested. This is going to be a major plot point later.
>- All of your immediate family is assumed to have Biosuits.
>- Your original Chloe body has a Blooming Snake internal parasite which is fully developed.
>- Steve, your friend from Chapter 3, has become Stacy (fully female).
>- Your immediate family is assumed to all have starfish parasites infesting their breasts.
>What variables DO remain:
>- Your domination status by the werm. Being dominated by the werm vs. being equal/dominant of the werm will still create different outcomes from this point onward.

Welp, that's a way to take care of exponential branching.
I really hope the sluttification neuron you can hit in Chloe's brain is relevant.
Because that shit is what I always wanted.

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>>7002160
Turning slaves into futa is a late game thing. What am I to do until then?

My life is like a porn game.

Poorly made and there's no end goal but at least there is some perverted shit to fap to, so I guess it's okay.

>>7002197
XD

>>7002091
>>7002045
>I think a second chapter is out, but I don't think it has been translated yet.

It has.
>>6997198

>>7002127
>You're not providing any evidence or even a proper argument.
>But can you PROVE that sprinting across a busy highway will kill somebody? No? The who are you to tell people that they shouldn't?

>>7002129
>While they can be used as an argument for future requests, they would be no more basis for technologically advanced additions than what is already present.
Quantity matters.

>>7002131
>because they aren't.
In part due to the introduction of things like the organ farm.

If nerve-connected prostheses are implemented, people will be requesting brain implants within a month "because we already have tech that hooks into the nervous system, so what's the big deal?".

>>7002220
...seriously, can you please stop? We get it, you don't like it. Stop pretending including it is literally hitler and would inevitably lead to fucking Star Trek or something. Let go.

>>7002195
Make sure they're cow enough for your tastes, I guess?

>>7002220
I made a very clear and very simple point in the previous posts. Since you are refusing to engage with it, by insisting on your slippery slope fantasy, even after I showed that features must be judged independently and not according to what they might or might not cause to be requested (which again might be good or bad judged independently so that FCdev implementing one good feature that causes people to request other good features, which would obviously be great, therefore revealing the inanity of your concern, I can only conclude that you don't want to, or simply can't understand it. Either way there is no point in me pressing it any longer.

>>7002231
when will we be able to give slaves non-human skin colors and modify their heads a bit so i can live out my captain kirk fantasies? fcdev is oppressing me

>>7002238
>so that FCdev implementing

so that FCdev might implement*

>>7002239
When will we be able to give slaves non-human skin and modify their heads a lot so I can live out my furry fantasies? fcdev is oppressing me
>:^)

>>7002239
At this point, if I were FCdev, I would add robotic limbs simply to spite you.

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>>7002236
But do I start with cowgirls to impregnate to give dicks later? Or do I start with dickgirls to give pussies to later?

>>7002247
Do you like impregnating or dick girls more?

>>7002247
Why not both? Have a bit of each, my man.

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>>7002249
I think I like dickgirls more. Soft asspussy is just too perfect.

>>7002254
I admit that this entire dilemma was an excuse to post cowgirl and dickgirl images.

>>7002265
>Soft asspussy is just too perfect.
I don't really care for the whole "let's pretend that anus is vagina". Actual asspussy (anus replaced by, or modified to resemble, a pussy) when?

>>7002231
>...seriously, can you please stop?
You are free to stop replying whenever you want to.

>Let go.
>This guy I've spent the last six hours discussing porn game minutiae with sure is obsessed. Unlike me.

>literally
>inevitably
Never said anything close to that. What I've said is that they are pushing the boundaries of the current tech level, and that they would be more lube on the slope.

>>7002238
>even after I showed that features must be judged independently and not according to what they might or might not cause to be requested
Implemented. What they might cause to be implemented. FCdev, blessed be his name, is not immune to boiling water.

>which again might be good or bad judged independently
>Where's that forest you were talking about? All I see are a lot of trees.

>Either way there is no point in me pressing it any longer.
And yet we both keep replying to each other.

>>7002245
>At this point, if I were FCdev, I would add robotic limbs simply to spite you.
If you were FCdev, FC would be TiTS.

I'm not the guy you responded to, by the way.

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>>7002274
>"let's pretend that anus is vagina"

I don't think people do that do they? Asspussy is just a kinky term.

>>7002275
>Never said anything close to that
>It will, absolutely, 100% certain, lead to (...)

ok

>>7002292
I'm pedantic about some of this sort of stuff. An actual pussy where an anus would normally be is more accurate than just calling something a pussy that isn't.

For a similar reason, I'm most often disappointed when I see someone mention "breasts the size of her head".

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>>7002174
Something like 4-6 liters I think, plus an extra liter for the stomach. Of course one could risk fluid toxicity at that point.

I don't really know for sure, but that's kind of what I remember.

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>>7002309
I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying you dislike the term "asspussy" because it doesn't look like a pussy?

I'm pretty sure a pussy doesn't look like a cat either.

I really hate when people get turned against something because an autist has a bad argument. Robo limbs are shit and won't be implemented because that would be a lot of work. FCdev would need to add checks to almost every event, write alternative descriptions for every relevant event, and write new scenes because he doesn't believe in halfassing new content with only descriptions. He could better use that time on things more than 3 people find erotic.

>>7002319
>I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying you dislike the term "asspussy" because it doesn't look like a pussy?
I dislike it when it's used to refer to something that is not a pussy.

>I'm pretty sure a pussy doesn't look like a cat either.
"Pussy" (as in pussycat) and "pussy" (as in female genitalia) are homonyms, and that's ok.

>>7002317
6 or so litres would make a noticeable bulge right?
>fluid toxicity
What if the viscosity of the liquid made it difficult for the body to absorb though the rectal lining?

>>7002323
Well then.

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>>7002333
Something ate my image.

>>7001135
>but the only links to the game I found were rar files and I don't understand why or how I would use one.
Your information technology card has been revoked.

Out of pity, I will recommend that you download 7zip, then right click on the .rar and select the "extract to" option to unzip it.

>>7002333
It'd be quite noticeable for sure; imagine 6 whole soda bottles shoved up in there, of course just loose and sloshing.


As for toxicity and viscosity, I'm not really sure.

I do think that it would help as mucus lined or otherwise viscose substances do take longer for the body to break down, so I'd say it's a fair assumption.

>>7002333
Viscosity doesn't exactly help. Nutrients don't cross into your bloodstream because they're carried by fluid liquids (chyme is quite thick, actually), it's a different mechanism.

>>7002321
I basically only want robolimbs so that I can make quadamps walk again. I don't even have a technophilia fetish.

As far as incredible overreaching ideas that won't be implemented go, I would much rather be able to blind or deafen girls, and unblind and undeafen them.

>>7002347
Same kind of thing where drugs absorb faster if one takes them with milk.
It really depends on the substance.

Of course I doubt we have scientifically tested just how much cum or whatever else we can fit in a person, but i'd be lovely to think about.

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>>7002345
>>7002347

It seems no-one is quite sure f this would work. If I was a wealth Arcology owner I would fund research into this so that I can fill my dickgirls with something until they look pregnant.

>>7002307
Lead to what, exactly? How unfortunate that you coincidentally cut off the sentence right before the part that proves you wrong.
>It will, absolutely, 100% certain, lead to requests for even more advanced technology backed up by statements like "we already have cybernetic limbs, so what's the big deal".
>would inevitably lead to fucking Star Trek

>>7002321
>an autist has a bad argument
fak u bruv

>>7002356
That's why I prefer true futas. Much easier to make them pregnant for entire months.

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>>7002359
I find futa boring personally. Giving a dickgirl a vagina and making her a futa takes away focus from her anus.

>>7001772
>the shit the drugs can do, the extent of body-modding, AI and fucking power armor [...] cyborgs

>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?
>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?
>It's just one more step. What's the big deal?
>Oh hey, there's a step back there that we missed

Added prosthetics to your list.

>>7001787
The game is consistently TL9 with regards to bio/med tech. Tech level 8 is right now. The game doesn't even have TL7-level prosthetics. Hell, there's no such thing as a peg leg which is TL1 at the highest. Sticking in some modern or slightly beyond modern prosthetics would be entirely fucking reasonable.

>>7000427
>says farewell after she can't hear any more
Why?

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In FC, how come breasts have a seemingly unlimited growth potential but ass and dick and balls have a cap?

>>7002396
Simple
Breasts are the best

Does anyone know how to get past the sandra's brain mingame in chapter 6 of parasite infection?

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anyone have the latest cloud meadow build or know of a site that keeps up on it? i usually go to the other chans but i cant find anything

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>>7002400
Got to disagree pal. A slave with tits and no ass is a disappointment. A slave with ass but no tits is still good.

>>7002379
>>Oh hey, there's a step back there that we missed
Further cementing our descent down the slope and adding even more things for the but-we-already-have-ers to point to when asking for brain chips and dog-human hybrids.

>>7002388
>Sticking in some modern or slightly beyond modern prosthetics
>and then some slightly beyond slightly beyond modern prosthetics
>and then some slightly beyond slightly beyond slightly beyond modern prosthetics

>>7000631
>>7001393
Try to rename exe file into bruns, works for me every time. Also you might want to patch it to the latest version, 1.0 is buggy AF to the point of not being able to get to a "good" ending.
In order to transform a girl you need to lure her into a sertain monster. They are the ones that are already placed on level or you can summon them using pentagrams. In order to activate pentagram you need to fill up QUALITY meter.
Quality fills by luring girls into traps with ordinary monsters on the end, longer chain and better traps, give you bigger multiplier for number that adds to this meter.
Button in the top right corner named 改造ツりー (the one that lacks on your screenshots actually, it was added in later patches) is containing the whole transformation tree.

Flash stuns heroine so you could build some traps right in front of her.
Bomb explodes after a few turns, adding to the multiplier, so place it on the first stages of trap combination.
Meteor is basically stun, but instead of standing still heroine flouncing in random directions. Useless stull if you ask me.
Cusre doesn't do a thing except for giving a serious boost to multiplier. Activating it doesn't stop the momentum so place them after traps that move heroine for a multiple squares.

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>>7002146
>But why would I want pussies if I'm going for Radicalism?
Interesting question; maybe someone in this Free City here has an answer for you. Try Sodom, and Gomorrah after that if they don't know.

Bugfixing this update is a pain in the ass, but I've seen some interesting emergent stuff. One of the arcologies here, whose owner renamed it from Arcology X-4 to Sodom, ran out to a huge economic lead early, popped Gender Radicalism way early, and spread it all over the place, with no player input at all. (The player's arcology is Arcology X-7 in this Free City; the others are AI.)

>>7002396
>In FC, how come breasts have a seemingly unlimited growth potential but ass and dick and balls have a cap?
Because breasts can't be shoved inside places. Hyper dick content would require code for whether dong would fit inside other slaves. I'm not saying it won't happen, it'd just require some dedicated time.

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Let's hope FCdev will distract everyone from the retarded debate that is going absolutely nowhere because both sides are entrenched and too stubborn to quit.

Bring peace to our lands once more, wise FCdev.

>>7002432
>traps-loving degenerates everywhere
IABMs when? They're asking for it.

Also, >establishing Pastoralist

>>7002432
>I'm not saying it won't happen, it'd just require some dedicated time.
For the time being, you could just make them useless for penetrating.

Also, ass/balls aren't shoved into places. Shouldn't they get similarly limitless(ish) growth that breasts do?

>>7002391
For personal gratification?

>>7002439
Even I can solve this debate - mods will fix it

>>7002421
There is no reason to think that this will happen, and there is no reason to think that if it did happen it would be a bad thing. You need to show that any step is individually a bad idea. The mere fact that it is a step further is neutral.

>>7002449
How would you dick her if her ass was the size of two bean bag chairs.

>>7002432
Just solve the robolimb controversy already. Can't you see man? It's tearing us apart!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmM-m7Cl8U

>>7002167
Also this was pretty neat. I liked it.

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>>7002432
>Hyper dick content would require code for whether dong would fit inside other slaves. I'm not saying it won't happen, it'd just require some dedicated time

I understand.

One more thing. A Size Queen slave stopped gaining devotion from a huge plug after her anus was stretched out. Is it meant to be this way? I thought a size queen would always enjoy being filled by something huge.

>>7002455
From the front (because no pussy -> no dicking), or go between the cheeks (I'd think it's the fatty parts that expand, meaning they'd be about as movable as similarly enlarged breasts).

>>7002453
>There is no reason to think that this will happen
There is every reason to think that it would happen, because that's how fan suggestions work.

>and there is no reason to think that if it did happen it would be a bad thing.
A major and pervasive fluff element drastically changing halfway through the development process is obviously a bad thing (unless you just want a fetish kitchen sink game like TiTS).

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>>7002455
Assjob.

>>7002461
>Just solve the robolimb controversy already. Can't you see man? It's tearing us apart!
FCdev getting personally involved would bring an already annoying shitfest to new heights of fiery destruction. There would be no survivors.

>>7002466 was obviously meant to be a response to >>7002454

>>7002474
Would it? I would hope people would just shut up about it. Either he feels it would fit well his game, or he thinks it wouldn't. And if he does, it is either practical or not.

>>7002486
I caught your reply, I just don't feel there is any point in rinsing and repeating. So let's just let it end here and see where fate gets us.

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Forget robolimbs, nanomachines when?

Is there a guide to Free Cities anywhere? I am terrible at this.

>>7002466
I haven't participated in this stupid debate yet.

>There is every reason to think that it would happen
Things only happen if FCDev (or a modder) makes them happen. Prosthetics aren't going to spontaneously appear from the ether.

>major and pervasive
Amputation is already optional, therefore prosthetic limbs are also optional. And it makes sense, from a balance point of view- lots of stuff you can do to slaves is reversible to some extent, so limb lopping should be too. It also makes sense from a realistic perspective- we already have robolimbs and prosthetics, it's entirely reasonable that they will be melded with a decent power source in time for the games timefame.

It's already a fetish kitchen sink, and that's not a bad thing. There's active solicitation of content to satisfy more fetishes, from clothing to body mods. Braces just got added a couple weeks ago because someone asked.

>>7002505
There's a guide in the game, but it's deliberately vague about a lot of stuff. There's been talk about a wiki, but that hasn't really been developed yet.

FCDev, what are your thoughts on a wiki? I understand you don't want anything risky to privacy from your research into having a forum, but wiki software is easy to come by- it's hosting that's the issue. What part do you think you would play in that?

>>7002432
O snap is that the next update? Will we finally get to invade other arcologies and begin our conquest for an empire?

>>7002493
You know what? I'm just as tired of this debate as you are.
I know that I'm right, and you know that you're right. Let's just leave it at that and make sure we never align our QPUs.

>>7002507
But that's wrong. I'm not talking about-

No. I'm just going to close the tab and revel in how right I am.

>>7002531
>>O snap is that the next update?
Nooooooooo, it's just fanart. That's why he's writing about the difficulties of coding it on the usual update day.

>>7002545
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>No. I'm just going to close the tab and revel in how right I am.
See:

>>7000290
>>Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it's okay to disagree, so be chill with people who are wrong since you know you're right.

>>7002351
>I basically only want robolimbs so that I can make quadamps walk again.

You wouldn't need robot limbs to do that. You could just have an expensive endgame cloning vat or something capable of growing appendages. Que the subject up for surgery, attach cloned limbs. Wouldn't even have to make new descriptors or anything, the game would just treat 'em like breast implants or whatever.

Shit, in fact you could use the cloning vats to alter all kinds of shit. Give your eunuchs balls again, attach a foot-long dongle to somebody, put a second set of tits on your cows to double milk production. Did one of your traps down in the arcade get a fully blown out anus? Clone that little bitch a brand new rectum!

>>7002546
...fanart? You mean like a mod by someone FC dev is reviewing?