Commission Thread

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I posted here last time one of these threads was up, hope it's ok to post again.

My work can be seen here: http://candyladyart.tumblr.com/
Commission info here:http://candyladyart.tumblr.com/commissions

I don't like to draw gore, scat or anything underage, but I am fine drawing pretty much anything else d.

Picture is a commission someone got last time :)

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Sweet! There is one here too!

Here is my commission sheet. Like it says, I am willing to draw literally anything you can thing of!

>inb4 im a desperate deviantartist who doesnt want to have to get a job
>inb4 they provide fake examples of their work, if they provide any example at all before taking your money
>inb4 they take 5+ months "because they want to do it justice"
>inb4 mods delete thread for mass shekel grubbing
>inb4 they demand payment up front and your work never gets done
>inb4 you pay someone to draw something which as an amateur artist they should be drawing for free to develop a wider variety of skills and genre application because theyre nowhere near good enough to charge for it yet
>inb4 crayon drawings and chicken scratches

>>6911811
Well... they're not wrong. Some free advice folks:

When you get something commissioned, first of all, pay for it when it's done. You don't pay until the work is done, or they no longer have any reason to actually do it.

When you're discussing things with the potential artist, the first thing you ask is to see their website. If they link you to a tumblr page or a deviantart, you say no, I want to see YOUR website. Then they send you the link to a site, and you say "okay, now post something on it to prove it's actually your site". Otherwise they'll just find an artist and claim to be them.

Get everything in writing, get them to agree to it unequivocally. Make sure you have provided examples of what you want in the image. Creative/Artistic license will lead to them drawing what THEY want, not what YOU wanted, unless you are very clear.

When you have agreed on it, don't let them fall out of contact. Make sure you agree on regular updates. Ask to see work in progress stuff. If they claim "I don't like showing my art until it's done", then remind them you're the one fucking paying them.

>>6912017
Remember, if an artist doesn't have a reputation to lose, then they have nothing to worry about by screwing you over and changing their username.

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I'd love to get some commissions.

Some of my my stuff: http://178349artz.tumblr.com/

Send me a message on tumblr or mail me @ [email protected] if you are intrested.

>>6912048
>http://candyladyart.tumblr.com/
>>6911391
how much do you all typically charge? my gf and I might have some things we want drawn ^_^

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>>6912060
>http://candyladyart.tumblr.com/commissions
All my prices are there, but I add things up based on how many people are in the picture and what they're doing. For example a full color/ full body drawing of a single person is $50 but if you wanted some tentacles or some such it would be $60. It get's cheaper for thigh up drawings or just line art. Feel free to send me an email with what you want and I can add things up for you no problem. (email is on the commission page)

(added another commissioned picture to hopefully keep the thread interesting)

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>>6912060

It would depends on the complexity i guess, what did you want drawn?

>>6912048
>>6912081
do you guys have your own websites or just tumblrs?

>>6912091
No website, but I have hentai-foundry and Pixiv in addition to the tumbler. Though they contain pretty much the same pictures.

http://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/178349/profile
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=17679699

>>6912091
Mostly tumblr, but I post on other sites too.

HF: http://candyladyart.tumblr.com/hentaifoundry
DA: http://candyladyart.tumblr.com/deviantart
FA: http://candyladyart.tumblr.com/furaffinity

https://discord.gg/0vFd9ZRGHZVfDx9E

Some dude made a discord for 4chan artists and made a public link so i'm putting it here.

>>6912017
Well, on the opposite side of things.

Some people are starting out. I'm just getting into the swing of things, and don't make enough to justify my own website.

Secondly, if you wait until after the art is done to ask for money, what is preventing the person from just taking a screencap or the sample and running off?

Honestly, just like with any freelance work, both people need a little caution and a little trust. I've gotten screwed over, and I know commissioners have gotten screwed over. So, as amicable as I want to be, I do have to protect myself. And if I loose clients over that, well, better to never have them then risk doing work and losing out.

>>6912091
I mostly use tumblr as a dumping ground while I try to figure out hentai-foundry. It's been giving me some weird trouble lately.

>>6911811
>inb4 im a desperate deviantartist who doesnt want to have to get a job
Only a few that are extremely good earn a living of off it. Don't ever expect to make any money at all, just keep looking for some low wage job and you will already make much more money.

>>6912017
As an artist I take payment upfront. It's much easier for someone to go through paypal and challenge a payment than to try to hunt someone down for a payment in the end. However I do agree that the artist should show in progress works and not wait until it's done.

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Ohey this thread lives again I see.

Most of the stuff I do is at http://notreallybuttpants.tumblr.com/

Also reminder to new people to add yourself to the master list linked in the OP.

Pic related is my last commission.

>tumblr
>tumblr
>tumblr

Don't waste your money here folks.

What's the going rate for comic pages these days? Per-page or per-panel?

>>6911811
>>inb4 you pay someone to draw something which as an amateur artist they should be drawing for free
>they should be drawing for free
No anon, shit doesn't work like that.

>>6912017
Here is some free advice from me too:
Stop acting like artists are scam artists that rip their commissioners off. You cannot have business done if you treat the other side like a fucking criminal.

>>When you get something commissioned, first of all, pay for it when it's done. You don't pay until the work is done, or they no longer have any reason to actually do it.
This is a two way street Anon, commissioners can always just lie that they are not satisfied with the end product, regardless of its quality, and claim that they will not pay after the work is done whatever happens and disappear with the previous versions of the work that was already done and shipped conning the honest artist who actually did his work. This is why you pay, at least partly, in advance so that you show your trust and good faith.

>>When you're discussing things with the potential artist, the first thing you ask is to see their website. If they link you to a tumblr page or a deviantart, you say no, I want to see YOUR website.
Most smaller artists don't have their own website because
1) it takes extra work and money to keep the site up while keeping track of their their gmail, tumblr, deviantart, facebook, twitter etc.which they have to have already, while they are not working on their art.
2) nobody visits them, most people today want everything available inside their social platforms not outside. If the link goes out of their tumblr/facebook/twitter etc. they will not follow it.

>>Remember, if an artist doesn't have a reputation to lose, then they have nothing to worry about by screwing you over and changing their username.
No anon you have it completely backwards. There is no such thing that someone has nothing to loose out of such an ordeal. Trust is very hard to build up and extremely easy to loose. It is easy to recognize and find an artist even if he changes usernames. Nobody will risk doing something like that unless they are extremely stupid.

Whoooa... all this damage control. I think anon was right, avoid these spergs like the plague.

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My commission by Mode7.

I'm always looking for people to draw more of this childhood crush of mine, who my mind has turned into a mixed-wrestling champion who has a huge cock, beats people up with it (I have a bunch of cock-based wrestling moves planned), and steals wives and girlfriends all day.

Ping me if interested here, and a way to get in contact with you.

>>6912738
You sound like the guy who will only eat at Pizza Hut rather than the smaller pizza restaurants.

>>6913109
>>6911451

>>6913146
Surely Tumblr would be pizza hut, since everyone uses Tumblr. The people who put in the effort to make their own business... are the people who put in the effort to make their own website. Your analogy makes no sense from your perspective.

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>>6912738
>>6912091
>>6911811

If I may, I'd like to throw in my two cents. But first here's a piece I've recently finished that is the first part of 5 of a commission.

email is [email protected] if anyone actually wants to ask about a commission, etc. I only came on to go /d/rawfag because I was bored, and saw this mess of a thread.

While I understand that seeing an artist use either tumblr or deviantart may be off-putting; you need to remember that as artists we need to show others our work in order to grow. While it is definitely more professional to have a single website for your work of your own design, it is much harder to

a) make a community around your art (unless you are seriously popular)
b) get your stuff out there and become popular - while many of you think that 4chan is a haven for self-promotion as an artist, I promise you it isn't
c) make friends and other artists that want to work with you

while using an isolated, but self made website.

Not to mention that creating and running a website requires a whole subset of skills and resources many artists don't currently have, nor have the time to learn/earn, so it's much simpler to use tumblr, or dA, and build from there.

Even further, many of the artists who would even post on here are unlikely to have been doing commissions for long enough to warrant owning a website.

Granted, I likely have a bias here, because I am seeing it from this side of the deal, rather than that of the other way round, and I recognise many of the points that, say, >>6912017 gave, although many of the replies demonstrate why most of the time this isn't the case.

Just my thoughts - I'm going to the drawthread.

Writerfag here.

If you want to pay, commission will be faster.
If you don't want to pay, commission will wait a little bit longer, but not so much. Let's say two or three days more.

I have an old dA account with a work for another /d/eviant

Ask what you want.
(If I can, I'd prefer not doing scat)

>>6913572
Might be interested actually.

Is anyone here proficient at drawing feet and general expansion?

>>6912017

If you're paying them via Paypal, you have at least 90 days to retract the payment. Really, the only questions you need to ask to avoid being burned (I have actually been burned so I know) are as follows:

- What is your average turnaround time once a commission is paid for?

- How many, if any, other people are "in line" in front of me, waiting to get their art?

- At what stages will I have the ability to suggest changes? How and when do you communicate about progress?

I also commissioned >>6911391 for an F-List character (to replace a 6-page sequence that still isn't done after a year) and I've gotten tons of comments about how much people like it. Fast turnaround time, and I didn't really pay any more than I did per page for the bigger sequence. Got my profile ("Bridgette Young" on F-List) a lot of attention as well.

>>6912091
see >>6912997
>Most smaller artists don't have their own website because
>1) it takes extra work and money to keep the site up while keeping track of their gmail, tumblr, deviantart, facebook, twitter etc.which they have to have already, while they are not working on their art.
>2) nobody visits them, most people today want everything available inside their social platforms not outside. If the link goes out of their tumblr/facebook/twitter etc. they will not follow it.

Yeah, the way these "artists" are responding has put me off considering hiring you. You sound like a bunch of con artists the way you responded to someone trying to give consumer advice. It's like you're trying to hush up someone spilling your secrets.

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One of my practice sketches that I decided to make into a full piece.

>>6915678
Sorry, I meant to attach this to the picture.

But the 'consumer advice' was just responded to by the people who would be affected by it. If you don't want to hire me because of it, that's ok.

But there aren't many artists I know that will both show you the WIPs and have you pay nothing until everything is done. And there aren't many artists who try to sell their art that DON'T have heavy social media presences adn rely on those to generate business.

>ITT tumblr swindlers in a nutshell

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>>6912017
>not even partial payment up front

Is this really a thing??

System I use:

50% before

I show stages at (sometimes thumbnails), final sketch, ink, and color.

They get 1 edit per stage ("I want her tits bigger, I want that green to be blue instead"). I'm a little lax about this if they're small tweaks after the first edit, but I can't waste my time going back and forth 10 times. You take some time to think about it, decide everything you need edited so I can do it in one go.

I make contact at least once every week or every two weeks depending on what we agree on. Usually finish things in a month or so, though, unless shit comes up. If customer doesn't care about progress checks, can manage one to two weeks.

I send final plastered with watermarks

They send last 50%

I send final without watermarks.

But I only take 2 slots at a time so I don't get overwhelmed. I really think 50% before 50% after is the only way fair to both artist and customer. I guess my policy is no bullshit- Not from me, not from my customer. Not actually looking for commissions but I really can't believe people take commissions without getting partial payment upfront.

normally draw bara tho, so maybe customer base is different

If an artist doesn't have a reputation, then they have nothing to lose. If you've never heard of them, then they can screw you over with no fear of consequences. Follow the advice in this thread, ignore the tumblrites trying to preserve their money laundering schemes.

>>6913612
Hes got it right,I always pay all up front via paypal,it shows respect and trust,and worst case situation I retract my payment.

Fucking... wow. Look at all the tumblr fags get triggered when people point out their shady business practices are shady.

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Remember, don't pay someone until the product is ready, don't pay someone unless you KNOW the product is ready, don't pay someone unless they have delivered the product satisfactorily.

Here's a commission that got shared a while back.

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Anyone who can read the responses from artists in this thread and still feel like throwing their money away deserves to lose their money.

>>6915945
>>6915904

Yeah, this is about right. I'm a freelance writer (not porn) and I would never work for someone that refused a down payment. And what the fuck is wrong with tumblr as a place to throw art? Tumblr people are the fucking worst make no mistake. They can lick the darkest part of my black ass. But just throwing your stuff somewhere that you can, objectively, browse pretty simply? Your dick won't fall off if you click a tumblr link.

Are people just being assholes or are they this autistic? It's reached a level I can't tell.

>>6915947
>>6912017
>>6915678
>>6915947
I can't honestly believe that any of you are even considering paying any artists anything. Bunch of trolls.

This is why /d/ is /d/ying.

Who can draw the meatiest soles?

>>6915998
>>6915904
>>6915851
Guys, in case it is not obvious to you by now, it is a troll and you are being baited hard.

>>6916406
Yeah, they're giving artists who deserve a chance a bad name with their responses.

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the thread here is a bit more hostile compared to the /aco/ thread. but it never hurts to shill.

if anyone's interested. im open to a lot of things as long as its not on the list. hit me up if you want.

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>>6916590
here are some stuff i've done in the past

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>>6916595

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>>6916598

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>>6916600

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>>6916602

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commission I made recently!

>>6911451

If you're not going to spend the time to layout your commission sheet so it doesn't look like a shitty Geosites page, you don't deserve money.

Go back, re-do that entire thing. It's atrocious, and offends my eyes.

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I'm looking for a drawfag or writefag to do something involving dick-and-balls girls with smegma on their tips getting sucked and having sex, and general body odor/unwashed works are grand.

Maybe something where Osaka from Azumanga explores puberty-driven sex acts with Chiyo-Chan?

I'm going to bed for now, but if interested please link to my post with an e-mail or site or something.

>>6916706
>writefag
I'd recommend Drace Domino on Tumblr. I commissioned them for a lesbian mind control story and it turned out amazing.

I was wondering, for those who order lewd or pornographic comissions, do you post everything on sites, or do you keep some for yourself? Like a secret porn stash. I have some comissions I'm not too happy with, so I don't want to post them, since its my gallery I'm free to do whatever i want with it right? I only want to post the things I'm happy with and comfortable with posting.

>>6912017
no no no, you don't go into a store and pay after you leave, nor pay after a service is done. You hire the nanny, the cleaner, etc and pay them after their service is done.

Other than that:>>6912997
countered well.

>>6912779
per page, depends on color or no color anon.

>>6916901
I keep it to myself and don't post it anywhere.
The vast majority of times, the artist posts it to their blogs. Sometimes they ask and I always allow them.

Personally, I'd love to keep a lot of it to myself but I feel like it's unfair to the artist.

>>6917017

Thanks for your insight, I guess since the artist posted it himself, I don't have to post it to my galleries. They advertised the art themselves, so its all good.

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Made a commission sheet!

>>6917029
You have a very difficult username to remember.

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This is a work in progress I've got going at the moment.

What do you guys reckon, am I good enough to do commissions?

Also sorry for Furry, hopefully this is /d/ enough and topical enough to grant me mercy from the mods

>>6917039
I've seen worse do commissions.

>>6917039
Of course you are good enough, just don't post furries.

>>6917046
>>6917059

Thanks, and yeh I'm sorry I know it's against the rules, I just hoped the sheer number of tentacles would knock this safely into /d/ territory.

>>6917063
It could include every /d/ fetish under the sun. The fact that it has a furry makes it /trash/ material.

Just do some requests in the drawthread or do a commission sale, then use it to make a commission page.

>>6917065

Yeh I've been lurking the drawthread, trying to decide which request to attempt, it's great practice.

And I'll keep the furry shit to /trash/ from now on

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Ill draw just about anything. Here is a link to my commission info
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Commission-Price-Updates-609092097

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I'm still experimenting with my Style and currently I can only draw/Paint Traditionally. So If you'd like a Physical Copy of everything I could be that person? I've been on Hiatus due to Employment, but that's no longer an issue until my next season starts. I have three Sites I've used in the past, only two have updated recently.

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/koomie-san/
http://ragnonrokai.deviantart.com/

My DA is different from my FA simply due to being harassed when my names matched and people stealing.

Posting most current WIP for a personal Project.

>>6916908
You don't pay for your groceries before you've taken them to the checkout. You're retarded.

>pay me up front
>nothing stops me from walking with the money but that's only fair because IT'S TOUGH BEING A NEET

Fucking cancer.

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Something I did for a girl who wanted to be female link getting fucked by HW Ganondorf satyr-riffic.tumblr.com

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>>6918087

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>>6918088

>>6918087
I approve of this

>>6918092
Neat

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On the charge up front/after deal, I charge upfront because it's going to be done in a day or two anyway, and because I run into enough people as is who barely understand that I draw for money, these aren't just requests.

If you aren't comfortable paying upfront though, find an artist who works with that? And if you're specifically worried about like, turn around time, find stream commissions, those are always a SUPER FAST turnaround time. Or pay attention to calls for commissions that your chosen artist puts out, and compare like, when they take commissions, and when they put them out.

Like a lot of these other service comparisons aren't totally useful, because those are a lot easier to deal with non-payers. Like if you steal from a store, or hair salon, or masseuse or whatever, they know who you are. They saw a real 'you' person. They maybe even caught your license plate. When like, businesses work with an independent web designer, they have signed contracts showing exactly what both groups agreed to.

Commission artists at most have like a TOS they wrote up, maybe a paypal invoice to show they've requested money from you that explains what it's for?

>>6916706
Writerfag here

I can write it for free, but I would like to know what exactly arouses you and if you have a sort of idea about the main character

>>6918131
I thought paying upfront was, like, the norm anyways?

>>6918140
It's something that i always do or at least get 50% of the payment upfront

>>6918197
Yeah, I can imagine a lot of scumbags not shelling out for work done. That's kinda retarded.

Or those ones that do a charge back or dispute the transaction on PayPal.

>>6918087
First artist in this thread who doesn't need more Loomis.

>>6918580
/ic/ please go!

>>6918039
>I'll pay you after shipping
>nothing stops me from walking away with the product and not paying it's fair

>>6918140
It is the norm just people are trolling by claiming that artists will always con you if you pay up front. Hence the words "con" and "artist" meatch.

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Lot of silly discussion going on here.
I paid for this commission up front, and everything went fine. Totally happy with it.

Artist: BQNK

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>>6918965
Got one more yet-to-be-completed from him that will be a POV of this image. Super stoked for that. He's been really nice and responsive and helpful. Why does everyone here hate on artists?

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I just finished this commission. It's a pretty fun little pastime. I asked for half up front and half on delivery, there were no problems.

I even asked the pateron if he/she wanted to see the line art before it was colored first just in case.

Just wanted to say, from the two artists I met through these threads, I learned a lot.

Littleburns if you're reading this, thanks so much for the comic you drew for me. It's still my favourite!

As for the other cunt I won't name, everyone in this thread be wary. Don't trust someone if they ask for money up front. They'll just take it and run.

>>6919532
>Don't trust someone if they ask for money up front. They'll just take it and run.
No, you need to name them because most artists do that.

>>6919557
>most con artists*

FTFY

>>6919532
>As for the other cunt I won't name, everyone in this thread be wary.
>Everyone be wary of this person who you won't be able to identify because I'm not naming them.
Anon, this is the circumstance where you SHOULD be naming the person.

>>6919532
They've probably just deleted their deviantart account by now and made a new one, no point naming them I guess.

>>6920676
Please just name them in case other people might be about to commission them with old details.

>>6915904
This is the way to do business fellas. 50-50, when done send medium size pic with watermark.
Easy.

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I tend not to take commissions too often, but here's something I did lately. Commissioner requested some lineart done similar to Legoman's style.

I don't ask for money up front. I send some rough sketches first to nail down what the commissioner is looking for and to prove I'm serious. As the work is completed and edits are made, I only send preview copies. Once finished, I request payment before sending the final, full-res, unbranded versions.
Hentai-Foundry: http://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/FlannaganTheRed/profile
Tumblr: http://flannagan-the-red.tumblr.com/
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/flannaganthered

>>6919532
I always ask for my money up front and i dont run away with it, never have. You cant really do that too many times cuz the word spreads. Cant really build a reputation by scamming people... Well, a good reputation anyways.

>>6920676
There is only so often someone will make a new email/paypal/deviantart when they are a scammer. And, even if they do, they will not do it often. Also, if one has a good eye for art style like i do, you can spot them with just their artwork.

>>6920767
Ya, that works.

>>6920787
You did a great job mimicking his style, including the same lips he gives every character.

Price deets?

>>6921180
>>6921183

wow, you sure sound trustworthy :^)

are you people really giving these people your fucking money?

>>6921274
Umm, i am trustworthy. Kind of the reason why i list the people that commission me as references so then other possible clients can contact them. And after 4 years and hundreds of commissions, i would think if i simply just ran way with the money, people would stop hiring me since i use the same DA page and the same email the whole time.
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Commission-Price-Updates-609092097
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/gallery/44193982/Commissions-and-Art-Trades

I would love to hear how i can avoid getting scammed if i dont at least get a down payment up front. Cuz, when i first started, i was the one being scammed, not the fuckers that get free artwork form me. So, i was kind of forced to use that policy, since... Yaknow, i like to get payed for my work and all.

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>>6921274
Please ignore the troll.

>>6921280
This person's a delight to deal with. Pic related.

>>6912017
Please be a troll.

>>6916676
>Geosites

It was Geocities, dumbass.

>>6921891
Ya, or perhaps just really paranoid. All the advise give does nothing for the artist being hired. For some reason this person thinks artists cant get ripped off, like i have been in the past.

>>6921262

Hey, thanks!

That particular drawing was $100 even, but I am willing to negotiate. If you're interested, drop me a line on one of my sites.

>>6922370
That's a hell of alot. Am happy for you.

>>6922370
Cool, I was hoping for like a price sheet or something because I wouldn't be asking for a Legoman-style drawing.

>>6922370
$100 for an outline. No colour. No shading.

Okay.

>>6920787
>>6921262
>>6922370
monopoly money or real money? it's unfair to take advantage of the mentally handicapped you know

>>6920787
>$100
>$100
>$100

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>>6922370
>100 dollars

>>6918580
Thx anon. I'mma get my read on.

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Oh my gosh how have i never come across this before! I didnt know so many people shared this interest!

>>6912297
>Some people are starting out. I'm just getting into the swing of things, and don't make enough to justify my own website.
It's like $30 PER YEAR for a shitty webhost. My artist friends all had simple portfolio websites like junior year of highschool so they could show something to colleges that didn't include their deviantart trash.

>preventing the person from just taking a screencap or the sample and running off?
You show them a downscaled version with a giant watermark over the entirety of the image.

>as amicable as I want to be, I do have to protect myself. And if I loose clients over that, well, better to never have them then risk doing work and losing out.
If you're an artist doing commissions you need to think of it as running a business. That means customer service is #1 priority. People will buy literal garbage if the business is friendly enough.

You got a long way to go, kid. This is the kind of stuff a good art school will teach you.

>how to spot no one in this thread is an art school graduate

As an artist, I'm ashamed of the sleazy pricks in this thread. Genuinely ashamed to see that this is the community I am a part of. The most important thing I learned at school was art is bigger than the artist, but look at these attention seeking primadonnas charging out the ass.

You shouldn't be charging money, because nothing i've seen so far in this thread is worth a penny. I don't charge money for my work, because I'm not good enough to charge for it yet. Neither are any of you. Fucking disgusting. The worst part is some of the work shared so far DOES HAVE some talent behind it, but that is totally overshadowed by how much of a money grubbing piece of shit you're being.

Go find an art school, and if they'll even take you, maybe some of you will learn a bit of fucking humility. This thread almost makes me want to vomit.

>>6922370
Please tell me you didnt really charge someone $100 for a fucking unfinished sketch.

>>6922703
I wouldn't call that a sketch. More like line art.

>>6922664
>>6912297

No point in owning your own site. Plenty of places to post your artwork like Deviant Art, Tubmlr, Twitter, Facebook, New Grounds and many man others.

And, i would still at least be getting payed half up front, no matter what

And yes, i would agree doing commissions is like running a business. Thus the reason why i have the contact info for my clients for other to contact to see how they liked my services

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>>6922700
Well, thats odd, since i get payed for my artwork... So...

I mean, reading your comment and how you say we need humility? Fucking laughable.

>>6922700
Also, i would LOVE to see some of your artwork.

>>6922700
Enjoy your future as a "starving artist" my "well educated" friend!

>>6922709
There is plenty of point in owning your site. It means you're an actual artist and not a 12 year old with a deviantart account.

>>6922715
I can see why you took up drawing, since you can't write a sentence.

reminder: a deviantart or a tumblr does not make you a professional, it makes you an amateur, do not advertise yourself as such. if you didn't graduate from somewhere, you're an amateur. people should know what they're paying for.

Theoretical situations for you guys:

Scenario 1-

You walk up to some stranger on the side of the street with a paper sign saying "for sale". There's a hundred other people on the street too, all in similar positions of "sale". You ask them "hey, i'd like to buy what you're selling."

They say "Okay, you give me the money now, and come back here in a few months, (i'll totally still be here promise), and it'll be ready."

You say "Okay, well, that sounds trustworthy to me. But can I see some of your other work before I decide to give you my money?"

They say "Sure, here you go." And they pull out a bag of shit they could have gotten from anywhere with no kind of legal guarantee of ownership. "I made all of this. Yours will be just like it, promise."

You say "Okay, well this sounds like a sweet deal to me." And you give them your money, and wait for the agreed upon time to return.

Scenario 2 -

You walk into a store, with a guy behind the counter. It is an official business with all the legal backing of such, and all the accountability. There is a clearly marked advertisement of products and their costs, along with a whole bunch of products on display for comparison. On the wall is their qualification, along with the means to go and double-check it for yourself if you want.

You go up to the counter and say "Hey, I want this and this and this."

They say "Okay, well you give me the money now, and I'll get your product to you by the following date. If it's not ready by the following date, you are entitled to blah blah blah as it says directly in this contract of sale we will agree upon."

You sign said contract and wait for your product to be delivered.

--------

Now which of these two scenarios sounds like the smarter way to go? Here's a hint: The first scenario is people who use a public art hosting site because of a number of possible reasons, most of which are bad. The second is people who make their own site and have their legal info clearly posted.

>>6922783
I am a Italian writer who is getting published...but, whatever.

(If you want, guys, I write for free whatever you want ;__;)

>>6922783
Please go troll /ic/ instead! Nobody here claimed to be a professional.

>>6922806
Just a reminder for everyone to ignore the troll.

>>6922873
>trying to help people avoid being scammed
>troll

This scared response from artists is making me think they're right.

>>6922700
Someone jelly of someone else's success. You don't charge for your art even after art school!?
Damn, how does it feels to fail so hard.

P.S. Greatest artists of all time never actually studied art, they DID the art.

holy fuck is this thread infested by trolls.

>>6922912
worse, trolls trying to make money

>>6922700
>shouldn't be charging money
But who is going to draw a dickgirl raping a girl in the mating press position for free? Especially if I want to specify the characters?

>>6923058
Someone with some actual talent who is worth the money. Not someone like >>6922370 charging a hundred bucks for an outline they traced and added nipples to.

>>6923064
I'll agree that $100 is more than I would pay for a line-art commission of a single character but they perfectly captured the Legoman look and if someone's willing to pay, why not?

They got quality.

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>>6922766

>>6923123
>memegenerator

thanks for surrendering the argument

>>6922783
professional
(of a person) engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.

Oh, looks like im a professional artist, have been for years. Still not going to bother having my own since. Since, yaknow, doing that will not get you work, exposure will. And sites like the ones i said can help you do that. And thats why all the pro artists that started on those sites stay on those sites to promote their own website.

>>6922774
Ya, i know. That was kind of the point, you fucking troglodyte.

>>6922870
No, i am a professional. I make my living drawing, so ya.

>>6922806
Have you every been to an art fair then If you used that in your hypothetical scenario, then you would have been a bit closer to the money.

>>6923130
>having the qualities that you connect with trained and skilled people, such as effectiveness, skill, organization, and seriousness of manner
>having the type of job that is respected because it involves a high level of education and training

You're cherrypicking.

>>6923128
Umm... what?

>ITT OH SHIT THEY'RE SPILLING THE BEANS
>I'll call them trolls, that way I don't have to acknowledge criticism and I can just use /d/ as a way to scam money

>>6923139
>You're cherrypicking.
And you're not? Point is, i get payed for my artwork and the money pays for my bills. If im not a professional artist, then what am i?

>>6923148
You provided one small part of the definition which fits your specific wants. I provided the full definition which just so happens to disavow your narrow view.

If you're not a professional artist, you're an amateur. Amateurs shouldn't charge money.

>>6923143
But i dont scam money though, as evident to how people keep hiring me.
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Commission-Price-Updates-609092097
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/gallery/44193982/Commissions-and-Art-Trades
And i work the way i do for me to avoid being scammed, so...

>>6923150
>how can it be a scam if it makes money
>scams don't make money

>>6923149
No, i used it with correct context which with amateur, you are not. I get payed, therefore im not an amateur by definition.

>>6923153
Umm... what?

>>6923155
So you are educated and trained then? Where did you graduate? Where did you mentor? Where was your placement upon graduation?

>>6923158
Im self trained.

So, looks like i am an amateur then... that gets payed for his work... right...

>>6923150

>http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Commission-Price-Updates-609092097

your work is really bad.

You look like you're autistic and type like it as well. Good luck to you man, you need fucking help.

>>6923168

forgot to include

chrisbryer.daportfolio.com/about/

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Well, looks like this thread has turned int nothing but pointless bullshit and trolling.

Wow, guys... Well fucking done.

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>>6923168
>>6923169
Looks like people like to buy my shitty artwork then.

>>6923171
What do you expect when deviantart and tumblr "artists" flock here in the expectation of a quick buck for shit work? They go nuts the second people try to share some healthy consumer advice, because obviously they were hoping to find easy pickings.

>>6923173
People drink diet soda too, doesn't change that it's shit.

>>6923173

yeah, but you don't have a consistent income.

you might make some sales but you aren't living off of you artwork.

>>6923150
Stop falling for the bait.

Wow who invited /ic/ in here?

>>6923174
Odd since i got two commissions form the last thread... so... ya...

>>6923184

>getting commissions

how's that $30 feelin right now?

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>>6923179
>implying the deviantart links aren't the bait

No one would seriously come on /d/ and link to their deviantart or tumblr in expectation of money. No one is that stupid, not even the autistic artists that reside there. This thread has been one giant counter troll from the start. People just grabbing random deviantart and tumblr links and pretending to be the artists.

Look how badly they defend themselves. It's so obvious. There's no way they're real. No one could be this autistic, showing up to /d/ and advertising when your shit looks like pic related. That guy has his actual face on his deviantart. Do you really think he would be that stupid? Do you really REALLY think someone could be so retarded they would link to a site with their OWN FACE on /d/. Don't fall for it like everyone in this thread has.

If any of you think any of the artists linked in these threads are actually here, you're almost as retarded as they would be if they actually came here with nothing but chicken scratches and a tumblr page to their name.

>>6923187
yes.

>>6923177
No, i am living off my work.

>>6923179
Are you kidding? This is rightly amassing. The thread has gone to shit anyways.

>>6923187
Oh look, my face. I also use my name to, cuz im a professional...

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>>6923190
Look at this shit. Do you really think someone would try to charge money for this? I've seen better shit done in MSPaint. No one could be that autistic. Not even here.

>>6923197
How much did that cost?

>>6923193
Leave the poor guy alone. From that picture alone it's obvious the guy has some mental issues. Obviously this thread is full of gullible idiots who will probably make that guys life hell thanks to you, but some of us aren't that stupid. No one would link this shit on /d/ intentionally.

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>>6923201
Anything more than "free" would be a ripoff. Let's find out shall we?

Assuming I've interpreted this person's very shady "pricing" system correctly, $20. Not a huge amount of money, but still more than "$0", which is what someone at this stage of developing their craft should be charging.

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>>6923203
Yep, got mental problems. Still make money with my artwork.

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>>6923209

>>6923209
>>>/b/

>>6923211
Hey, at least i got nice hair now.

>>6923212
No... Im good, thanks.

>>6923213
if you're trying to get someone doxxed you're on the wrong board

>>6923205
I'm actually going to agree with this. A person of this quality should do requests or do it on the cheap.

$20 will go a lot further with better artists.

>>6923215
What? You mean myself? Oh, cant really doxx me since most of my info can easily be found online.

>>6923219
Literally no one here believes that is you. You'd have to be chris-chan levels of autistic to release that kind of information.

>>6923223
Ha, Chris-Chan. Thats funny.

And unlike you bunch of cowardly cunts, i dont really care if my information is out there. That's kind of how i get my work. What are you going to do? Doxx me? OH NO! Swat me? BA! Non of that shit really scars me, sorry.

>>6923226
Stop trying to get people to attack this guy. We're not going to do it. If you want to try that shit, try /b/.

>>6923187
... wow i feel like an idiot now

>>6923229
>>6923230
No, that is me.

>all these complaints
I don't care as long as they're cheap, I want to feel like I'm getting a deal.

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>>6923258
Exactly

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M-may we not argue, please?

And letting people like me advertise their shitty works?

Please ;___;

>>6923269
Agreed. Lets try and get this thread back on track.

>>6923280
Someone post a cheap artist then:
>>6923258
>>6923261

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>>6923289
This is someone i follow on Deviant Art. The artwork is very good and the prices (are honestly a bit to low for this kind of quality) are really good.

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>>6923289
http://blushmallet.tumblr.com/commissionsandrequests

You could get something like this for $25.

>>6923316
>taking her bra and panties off is $10
I mean, it's high quality, no doubt. But rather than $35, I'm looking for rougher, cheaper and lewder.

>>6923319
>>6923316
That said, reading their page makes them come across like a professional. Quick turnaround, updates, request for approval before posting on the blog.

That's respectable, even if they're not what I'm looking for.

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>>6923319
Not sure about cheaper and rouger, but how about lewder?

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Might as well jump in.

>>6923319
Sorry, my lowest costing commissions are 15$ for a sketch.
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Sketch-Commissions-Starting-at-15-620771489

I don't make people pay for my writing.
Just because, well, it is not well performed as I wished, so it would sound nasty.
Seriously, I will work for free, if necessary, to get a reputation

Let me and other artists work: we could not be great, but willing to improve

>>6923369
>>Just because, well, it is not well performed as I wished, so it would sound nasty.
This sentence makes your English look as if it's non-native.

>>6923337
Wow $45 for something like that? Holy shit that is dirt cheap like literally pennies. Tell her that she should double her rates immediately!

>>6923383
ooops meant for >>6923301

>>6923381
It is not-native: I write Italian poems.

(How would that sentence be in correct, native English?)

>>6923384
Most populor artists with her skill level do ask for double that most of the time.

But is was not just her fully illustrated work i was talking about. Her prices for the full body colored sketch is affordable for sure at 20$. I may even commission her myself.

>>6923415
ffs do her a favor and tell her that she is leaving tons of money on the table and that she deserves more. I am pretty sure she is just some lonely girl with terrible self esteem issues who thinks she is doing the right thing and being nice to everyone and working half price while nobody gives a fuck about it.

>>6923435
Ya, i fucking charge more and shes way better then me. But, she probably has a day job so she does not need to rely on that income.

>>6923415
Some artists charge so low because they feel that a steady stream of commissions is better than one commission every now and then, which is the case if their art is good and they can work fast.

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I currently have one commission slot open.

>>6923452
that is the reason why my prices are the way they are. I could never charge 100$ for just line art :/

>>6923454
I like the viking girl :P

>>6923454
I suggest bigger pictures and less text.

>first come, first serve
You can assume this, you don't need to say it.

Condense the next two into something like:
>All commissions will be posted (anonymously by request)
Bam.

Put the contact details at the bottom. where they're easily noticed.

>>6923381
>>6923400
It's like the words mean the right thing but they're not what a native speaker would use.

I'm just disappointed because I would love a free writer for lewd stories.

Unsolicited pricing advice strikes me as horribly presumptive and patronizing. As long as you're making as much as you want at your prices, you're free to keep those prices.

>>6923497
It is. Telling them to lower prices is insulting, you don't know how many commissions they get.
Telling them to raise them suggests you know that their customers will stick around and they're not already making an OK stream of cash.

>>6923465
I don't see how anyone would actually pay that much for lineart when some decent artists might charge $60 for a colored image.

How much paypal info can an artist see when you pay them for a commission?

>>6923506
They really like the style, I guess. It's pretty damn close to a real Legoman.

>>6923509
Their name or alias, that's all.

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>>6923506
>Hey, thanks!
>That particular drawing was $100 even, but I am willing to negotiate. If you're interested, drop me a line on one of my sites.


Im not saying the art is bad or anything. Just, well, 100$ is a lot of money

>>6923517
It seems bad taste to me to argue about an artist's prices here. A person can make his mind up if it's worth $100.

>>6923525
Ya, you are right. Im sorry.

>>6911341
Looking for somebody to do a shota-growth story commission. Anybody cool enough?

>>6923509
If you make a business account, you can use a business name so people won't see your real name.

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Thought I'd shill this direction. Here's my galleries so you can see what level of quality I offer:

http://knullmannen.tumblr.com/
http://knullmannen.soup.io/
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/knullmannen/1

In terms of limit and such, considering who I'm advertising to I can't honestly say I have any, but like the commission sheet says, if it's something that makes me quite uncomfortable or gagging then I'll need some extra money to pull me through.

But hit me up with an email provided in the image if you're interested and we can discuss whatever it is you want and whether an extra price will be necessary.

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I find the problem with finding an artist I want to commission is that I'm not sure what their weirdness filter entails even after assessing their ability.

After taking a good look at red flag lists and even if they drawn all sorts of stuff for /d/, it's no guarantee my fetishes are in the "safety zone."

Not to mention if I'm looking in general, there are some dealbreakers of my own like whether or not an artist can draw feet or if they can do some anime or 80s toon characters justice. Let alone if they can work with stylized proportions if needed, some artists I like can draw too much of the same body type on characters that don't have those types of proportions.

Also prefer artists with less scruples when it comes to a character choice because nostalgia can really muddy the water but also, I get that some things can be a weird fap and sometimes questionable, so it's really not bad if the artist flat out says "no" which is better than leading a client on because the money looked good.

Not quite sure I like the idea of paying extra for a pic unless it's an an NSFW or privacy charge. The whole point in paying for a pic at all is for something that appeals to me in the first place. Again, it's not without understanding, I'm just saying I'd prefer to be treated the same as any other client.

>>6923588
I just feel weird commission some fetish thing from an artist in general, even if they make it perfectly clear they are comfortable with drawing anything.

>>6923588
Yeah, it's really tough, I know what you mean. That's one of the reasons I've commissioned a range of different artists.

I've never paid extra for NSFW and probably won't any time soon.

>>6923588
>>6923595
Just out of curiousity, what fetishes are you talking about?

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>>6923595
I'll still remember my first. That shit was spaghetti as fuck trying to explain the context of it all.

There's also the "dip a toe" method of asking first, but that's not ALWAYS a guarantee. Had a guy pretty much skim over that message and act like a huge shock despite being VERY specific with what I was about to throw at him.

On the other hand, some artists are VERY flexible and quite friendly (and even if they reject it, some do it in a direct, civil and professional manner which gets my respect just the same). I even had some PMs sent on dA requesting my business, I just hope the door's still open when I wanna experiment with them.

>>6923588
Honestly after have to ink and color furry porn which i loath, nothing really bothers me when it comes to a commission.

Although, what you say about nostalgia is interesting. Not sure if i could take drawing Vegeta getting bumfucked by Goku due to my liking the characters. But... then again, when you need the money, little stops you.

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>>6923588 here

>>6923602
All my fetishes just involve wearing something on the head or face in general. Sometimes worn "normally" sometimes symbiotically in whatever context. It doesn't necessarily have to be designated headwear (so saying "helmets and masks" isn't always accurate) or the use doesn't always have to be for the wearer's benefit either.

Sometimes I might throw in something that just happens to be there, like some level of foot focus, tentacles or even bondage. That's as general as it gets.

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>>6923671
Would you then be interested in some symbiot stuff like Venom but now on a woman.

Artwork here is done by Vandeilson Vagner da Silva on Deviant Art.

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>>6923684
I said "symbiotically" but I don't mean literal symbiotes. More like masks fusing with the wearer.

>>6923695
Ok. Well, i always had a thing for female Venom myself

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>>6923695
Hey, in one of the sets of Magic the Gathering, there are these odd zombies that have masks. Would you be interested in a female version of this?

>>6923475
I still can write lewd stories. I wrote one for an anon here.
It's just that...you know, after writing in a certain way for 20 years, using your tropes, your rhymes and rhythm schemes...learning a total new one is a little difficult, and obviously words I tend to use are those whose links with my first language are stronger. So it happens with sentences and their structure.

Please, allow me to write something foe you. It is totally free

>>6923734
Not sure I would be, but I admire the enthusiasm.

Familiarity with a face underneath plays a part in my fetish. The mask can't be the "default", which is why something like Shygals doesn't work for me, or Celty for that matter.

Browsing through this thread really makes me realize just how badly I've been ripped off by the price/quality ratio of past commissions.

>>6923781

Why?

>>6923799
Ignoring stuff like preferences for particular art styles, there's so many artists open for commission in this thread with rates equal or even lower than artists I've gone to in the past that produced art of significantly lower overall quality.

>>6923763
Honestly i just really like the masks in that design. So, the idea of one of these creatures with some rule 64 action could be really cool.

Well, ill link you to my artwork. If you like it, send me a message and we can talk.
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Commission-Price-Updates-609092097

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Um, do you guys expect tips? Or is this just some tumblr thing made up by people who underprice their art and think that american tipping is the norm?
http://ksuriuri.tumblr.com/post/141147596082/commission-etiquette

[cantspoiler]pls no more shitstorm i'm just genuinely curious if i've been rude by not tipping people i've commissioned in the past.[/cantspoiler]

>>6923506
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>>6922587
>>6922700
>>6922703

Yea. $100. Because I value my time greatly, and that's what the client was offering. Are there better, cheaper, artists out there? Absolutely. But not all of them will offer the same kind of granular requests and edits that I will.

All of my personal work is created and shared absolutely free. My day job kinda sucks, god forbid I make a little money on the side doing what I enjoy. I think everyone deserves a shot at that.

I'm also not really sure why people are so surprised, have you never heard of the likes of Mark Rothko? Canvases full of only a few colors go for insane amounts of money. Your perception of the "quality" or "completeness" of a piece of work has no bearing on its actual value.

Oh, and I do have a BFA, thanks.

I've been looking for artists with a semi-realistic/non-cartoony style and knack for musclegirls to commission a picture from. Anyone know of any artists like this? Having a fine knowledge of anatomy and muscles would be important. I'd be willing to pay for the extra attention to detail.

I find it hard to believe there aren't any resources anywhere for finding artists taking commissions.

>>6924089
Jesus Christ, no. I have never heard of anyone asking for tips before this person.

>tfw no amount of money will get dtiberius drawing again
Why live?

>>6924089

No. But it's not uncommon for fine artists like painters and tattoo artists.

>>6924089
I have heard of this over the past year or so on Deviant Art and Tumblr. To me i do not like being payed more then i offer. It feels like a client may want favoritism but i try to treat all of the people i work with equally. I know that sounds silly but i try to work that way. So, i dont take tips... Or, well, i try not to.

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>>6923528
Also consider sometimes it's worth paying more if an artist has good reputation, consistent quality, happy to make adjustments, and gets the job done in a fair amount of time.

I'm not the artist, just have a friend who commissions a LOT, and they have many stories of being disgruntled about the lack of attention to important details, No input during the early phases, or getting burned completely by being made to wait.

>>6924106
Ignore the "art student", this person i gather had his mom and dad pay his way thought school and afterwords since i gather he spent years learning to be an artist to just move back in his parents, jobless and pointless.

Anyways, what i would like to know if you would not mind telling me. How long did it take to do that line work?

>>6924120
Well, those are all good quantities. I feel happy that i try to work similarly. I only hope people say such nice things about me.

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>>6924110
I would point to myself, but i gather you may already know who i am...

>>6924089
>asking for tips
>go to place where service or product is offered
>pay for service or product
>leave with finished service or product
>'no you need to tip me 30% the price you paid of X just because regardless of anything!'

Tips are meant for someone that goes beyond what they are supposed to do, not for getting what is clearly expected or less.

Tips are fine when they are not expected. Fug.

>>6924089
I did recently because creating a character from text alone is a bit more stressful with all the go-between and double-checking, and I knew I was going to be far pickier than most, even able to draw myself only alleviated some of the anxiety by knowing how to explain details. Because of this they gave me good treatment, even if it was just a bit more.

But as a general rule, no. Unless they went above and beyond expectations by far, completely exceeding your expectations, and you got the cash to burn.

>>6924124

Honestly, I'm probably a lot slower compared to most of the artists on here (I blame it on being a perfectionist/OCD), and my natural "style" is a bit different from Legoman's so that took extra effort.

In all, probably about 4 or 5 hours. That includes the initial sketch, refining the lineart, and several edits from the client.

>>6924131

I agree with this approach. A tip is appropriate if there are special circumstances or if they did something for you out of the ordinary. And on the other hand there's nothing wrong with paying exactly what was agreed upon.

Also, truly the best tip is repeat business or referrals. I'd much rather have that than a little extra cash.

>>6924134
Well, that is 20$ an hour. That is a damn good wage. I will admit, i am a little jelly. So, just ignore my prodding.

>>6924139

Don't be too jelly, I don't get these types of commissions very often, I'm mostly off in my own little world trying to put a book together and getting a Patreon off the ground. That's really my passion, so the way I see it, if I'm going to do work on the side the distraction has to be worth the while.

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>this thread
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>>6924146
I know it is such a vain thing to feel. I used to never care about how much others made doing artwork.

Last year, i was paying my bills selling my artwork on t-shirts. Then, at the beginning of this year after a massive DMCA take down, my sales have basically disappeared.

Now, im not trying to tell a sob story, but when i see some dumb text only sure get 25K+ likes on facebook is starting to really make me hella jelly i was close to tears.

So, to be honest, i have respect for someone as yourself that makes money with real skill.

>>6924153
That is some damn fine work.

>>6924154

That sucks man. Did you have your own website? There's a ton of other custom t-shirt sites out there (tee fury, qwertee, etc), though I'm guessing you've already checked them out.

>>6924157
I mostly posted on TeePublic and RedBubble. I would like to run my own site and sell them myself but there is no way i could afford to do that

>>6924179

You'd be surprised. It's getting easier and easier to run your own website these days. Google just recently announced their own domain service for only $12 per YEAR.

https://support.google.com/domains/answer/6010092?hl=en&_ga=1.235814404.481661250.1468470620

>>6924190
Thank you, honestly. But, thing is, running a site is not what would be the hard part. Buying, printing and send out the shirts themselves will be the an astronomical and close to impossible thing for me to do. I have looked into it and i would have to spend hundreds if not thousands just to get started. And, well, im already in debt, so it could never happen.

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>>6924155
I tend to look for relatively okay deals on things.

>>6924089
If the artist was willing to go above and beyond my expectations (giving source files, alts, edits), then I'd be willing to cover paypal fees and then some.
Now if the artist is literally asking for a tip to cover fees then I tell them to fuck off.

>>6924249
dem cow udders

>>6924089
I'm not always good for it and she's wrong about the gratuity not being included for a restaurant tab. It's always on the receipt in some establishments, usually with a minimum. Sometimes there's gratuity included in the bill WITH a base tip suggested.

The restaurant analogy is flawed for other reasons too. The tip isn't for the product (food), it's for the service. Specifically the wait staff making sure you get what you need because they manage a lot of tables per day WITHOUT the benefit of canceling or refusing a table of dickheads. This is more like asking for a tip on Craigslist or Upwork if anything. See, you are already paid for your service and you're expecting courtesy on top of that. You are not dealing with assholes yelling in your face as though you control the chefs or the cosmic reason why they drove to the wrong store/chain to pick up their order. You are some guy, gal or something in between drawing 2D tatas and who-hahs and wee-wees for extra moneys which I hope you ARE itemizing if you're in the bracket to do so lest you get in trouble for tax evasion.

Yes, commissions are luxury. Yes, you are paid what you asked to provide a service. Yes, a good client will agree to the terms written. These are all facts. However expecting some extra layer of courtesy for a job accepted HOPEFULLY what's on top of a dayjob to keep your house or so, that's probably stretching it a bit.

HOWEVER, I'm not against the notion of an artist tip jar or anything. That's fine.

It's just that being so expectant of it on a project that someone backbites and browbeats about it on Tumblr? Not giving them my business.

Thanks to the people who answered >>6924089
I'm totally for tipping in cases of going above and beyond or having a tip jar or so on, but yeah I thought being entitled to it automatically was odd.

Also,
I'm in the market for toothbrushing art. Anyone here draw sharp teeth or fang mouths? (not furry, but the kinda crap that /sug/ was into awhile back.)

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>>6924249
Anyways, last thing for now.

>>6924302
Don't sweat it. Commissions are a luxury, but you really don't have to be rich to spoil yourself either.

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Character of mine I've been commissioning.

>>6924190
To have a good looking site one inevitably needs to know how to design a website and even some coding to create a layout you wish. Now I don't know if knowing web design and how to create a website is as common as tying your shoes these days but I have zero clue on how to code stuff.

>>6924387
That is mighty hi quality stuff right there. One thing tough, personally I hate it when creator deliberately blur out parts of the picture to forcefully put your attention into the part they want you to look at. I already hate it when they started to do it with 3D movies.

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And another I got after that one.

>>6924549
PLEASE! Rules, no furries, you know this.

>>6924556
Don't bother. The "artists" in this thread are just trolls, looking to get a rise out of you. Hide this thread and ignore it.

>>6924561
i thought the person that posted the furry porn was the commissioner of the artwork and not the artist.

Yes I commissioned it, and after bouncing through multiple threads at once, dropped it into the wrong one. Already deleted it.

>>6924584
None of these people are actually the artists. Just trolls replying to themselves to make the artists seem autismal as fuck. Do you think an artist would come on /d/, advertise their prices, and then post furry porn? That makes them look like the biggest cunt. It's obviously not really the artist. None of these are actually the artists. They're just trolls who went and found their pricing info/images and posted them here to get a rise.

>>6924611
So says the troll.

>>6924308
Buru's work is glorious.

>>6924127
But I don't. Tell me who you are, I'd like to give you money.

I always wonder if i'm just picky when it comes to who i'll pay money to draw for me. I see so many sub-par artists getting commissions and i'm wondering who is actually paying them for colored scribbles. It's usually OCs and fetish stuff(inflation, shit, piss, macro) too.

>>6924672
take a look at the shitlords in this thread

you can't be picky enough

>>6924678
Maybe my standards are just high. I tend to commission the same few artists because they're somewhat affordable and available most of the time.

>>6924687
You've found a few artists that aren't money grubbing cunts. Stick with them. Having high standards is not a bad thing when it comes to your own money. Especially when you are buying a 100% luxury product and you're what keeps these artists fed.

>>6923568
Just finished up another commission, linked just to make sure it's not unseemly:

http://knullmannen.soup.io/post/687046006/And-a-third-commission-in-the-Star

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>>6924671
Here is a link to my commission info
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Commission-Price-Updates-609092097

I dont always draw muscular women but i have no problem with it. So ill post a pic of what the women i draw look most of the time.

>>6924672
Sometimes, skill is not just a reason why someone hire an artist. Sometimes it's art style that a client finds appealing. But yes, you do have a point.

>>6924945
This. Skill and style can be two separate things when deciding on an artist. One doesn't exclude the other mind you, just that erring more towards the former simply isn't enough.

I never think one artist as the best for any job, but rather what job is best suitable to the artist's ability.

>>6924956
That is a damn good point. I have some friends online that are not nearly as skilled as i am but i love their artwork all the same since it is highly stylized and quite cute.

>>6924968
I say this because I've peers who are conscious I like commissioning artists but usually throw a buttload of artists in my direction they think is pretty cool but either they draw in a style that isn't my cup of tea or said artist's style probably doesn't work for a character I want in the moment but probably another one down the line.

Worse still is if said artist has dealbreaking flaws or shortcomings that don't work for what I want to see. Granted, it is only a suggestion rather than a requirement.

>Sssonic2 opening commissions Friday
Anyone else like his work?

>>6924308
Does she have a horse dick and anus? Did her whole crotch get replaced?

Kind been in a dry spell, and drawing porn has crossed my mind. Incidentally, is it still hard to get a job in product animation like when the black lists existed back then?

>>6925772
The workaround is usually not having a page for it and trying not to make your work recognizable.

It's not a guarantee though and I don't want to steer you with a false sense of assurance for my own pleasures. If you wanna get in the industry, protect that if you can.

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Point me to artists which draw cheap black and white comic pages, please.

I'm looking for a range of them.

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>Commission something
>Get one email confirming it's received in a flavorful way
>Think nothing of it.
>Few days later
>Get another email just making banter
Okay, I'm not paying you to socialize. Can you just work on my shit please?

New thread when?

>>6927104
please no, nobody needs 300 more posts of trolls and autists furiously beating a dead horse argument.

>>6927117
Despite the saltposting, it's not a bad idea for artists to promote themselves and clients to express what they're looking for.

Just push for civility, I'd say.

>>6927117
It's 4chan. Trolls are unavoidable

>>6926189
>>6911451

Eh. I'm game. I just posted on my tumblr dump the remains of my comic after my computer tried to kill the files and wouldn't let me edit them past this point.

>>6927305
I dunno, I've been lurking several other boards' shill threads, and this one seems to be pretty cancerous in comparison.

>>6927333
Ya, the "art student", the guy that was like "the real artists are not here posting, thats impossible and thus it would be autistic if they were" and the guy saying "Dont pay artist upfront in any fashion and you are a shit artists unless you have your own site" have not helped this thread. The aco thread was better but it did have some morons posting trolly shit.

>>6927348
Not the guy posting that stuff, but you really can't expect an echo chamber of sucking off the artists. Some clients get burned just as much as the artists do and pretending that's just from the customer end of things is pretty delusional if not self-serving.

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>>6927457
Point is, if you dont like the artists policies, dont contact them. If you dont like it that they post their work on sites like DeviantArt and the like, dont contact them. If you think an artist will rip you off, dont hire them.

>>6927593
>If you dont like it that they post their work on sites like DeviantArt and the like

People actually care where an artist posts their art?

>>6927599
Of course.
If you bought a donut for yourself, would you share it?

>>6927599
Thats what one person kept bitching on about. Going on like "If you dont post your art on your own site then you look like a amateur"

>>6927614
what does that even mean?

>>6927619
You mean like this guy?
http://leonartgondim.deviantart.com/
Iv seen his work on this site before
http://zzzcomics.deviantart.com/