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Previous thread >>6564849

Fucking Chest edition

Discuss lewd games, share your projects an have others critique them.
Post pictures (/d/ related preferably) to keep the thread alive.

Lose hope of making games here, and collaborate with others to not make games:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!forum/hentai-game-dev-group

>/d/ Catalog:
http://pastebin.com/Su7gb2iq
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>>6570429
ultimately they're males with wounds between their legs so there are no futanari.
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Is there a way to save your game in FC on a mobile browser?

It's neat enough that I'm treating it like an adult tamagotchi, but being unable to maintain progress without leaving it running is limiting.
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>>6570784
FCdev has said mobile isn't supported officially, and I know chrome apparently has some issues, but for what t's worth it saves work for me on iPad. It's a fairly miserable experience though.

Maybe try a different browser?
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>>6570784

Works fine here using Firefox on Android.
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>>6570784
Sex slave tamagotchi is a great idea, by-the-by. anyone know of existing games like it?

Might become my project-that-never-actually-gets-finished. FC inspired, single girl (initially), locally stored text game.
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Hey all, I need some help here.

Trying to remember the name of a game that was discussed in these threads just a while back.

It was relatively new - the setting was Futuristic (i believe it was made in a modded RPG maker? May be wrong).

You played with 1 or 2 girls It involved guns and lots of 3D models when doing the porn scenes. Enemies involved dudes with gas masks + robots.

Sorry if thats vague. It only had 2 levels as well, think it was new and in beta?
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>>6570882
Malise and the Machine, yes it's RPG Maker.
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>>6570744
plz tell me there is more
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>>6570875
After an hour of mucking about.. and now I'm going out for dinner.

Generally, what's the etiquette before bringing stuff like this to /dgg/?

I know 'more than an hour, asshole'.
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>>6570922
>Generally, what's the etiquette before bringing stuff like this to /dgg/?
That you intend to have a playable build within a reasonable timeframe.
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>>6570922
Etiquette is to wait until it's playable. TFGamesSite may love early alphas that are unplayable messes, but /d/ prefers to avoid those.
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Okay, can you give me games I can steal gameplay from?

Undertale was really fucking clever at picking bullet hell, because it engages the player in a non-linear fashion (you can move around freely) and you can build a ton of different scenarios with it. It's something that match-three or tetris can't do.
Turn-based combat (which a lot of eroge use, I think) is solid, though you cannot give instant feedback to the player, unless you involve skill in some aspeeeeeeeaaand hey we're back to Undertale.

So, any other clever ideas?
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>>6570976
For what exactly? Most generally-applicable gameplay loops possible? Because it sounds a little like a generic vidya gaem request...

Well, I've been stealing the neo-roguelike genre (FTL-style nodes-and-vertices). Classical roguelike (rogue-style) is flexible too, if you don't mind spamming keys
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>>6570922
Make it playable and then come, it's best this doesn't turn into the slave trainer thread where there's a billion "announced" games

Like I sincerely hope you make your game but you have to realise that a good 90% of h-game makers never get very far into their projects
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Does FC react much if I'm an absolute shit to every slave?

I've always just played as a sort of nice guy because it seems pretty optimal for breaking slaves

Tempted to start a save where I'm a total shit but I'm wondering if anything will change
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>>6570981
Yeah, it's basically a generic game loop request.

FTL's loop isn't really nodes, it's just the beginning and start of the main part of the loop, which is combat.
But okay, I'll actually do my job and write down the things that I would like to achieve with the combat system/main game loop.
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Anyone else hype for Trap Quest's Hotel? A lot of the content the creator has been posting about is right up my alley especially that hypnosis trap.

>>6570885
Of that image? It's a cover/promo image for a entire doujin by Homura Subaru. Whole thing is about that woman in a mimic trap.
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>>6571004
Maid is my thing.
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>>6570868
Hmm. Does your phone use an SD card, or internal memory?
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>>6571024
Ah, there we go. Desktop site does it on the mobile.
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>>6570976
That's an insanely vague request, but for what it is worth, "action command"-style RPG mechanics (the Mario RPGs, South Park: Stick of Truth) never get old for me, especially if I can eventually reach a skill level where I never take damage. I also would love to see more games with combat like the Megaman Battle Network games. Plain turn-based RPGs and scrolling shooters are both badly overdone.
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>>6570922
I would say try to make a very, very tiny but still playable game with some sort of achievable goal for the player. Get the absolute basic gameplay working and add a little bit of content that works with those absolute basics. Then you'll have a working game, something that most would be developers never achieve, and you can only improve it from there.

Most developers think it's a waste to spend time on placeholders that aren't going to be part of their final epic vision, but then they end up with a bunch of overcomplicated code that doesn't go anywhere and they have to scrap it all start over.
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>>6571177
This. If it's playable and in any way fun, it's worth showing off. If it's unstable and boring, then keep working or start over.
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>>6567896
Reposting from last bread for FC Dev.
http://pastebin.com/DWTHvah6
http://pastebin.com/MZCWdJbn
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>>6570976
CoC/Tits and all clones
Nightgames mod
Jack o nine tails or FC
Cursed or New Life

Those are the ones I played for at least 1 hour and all have different kinds of settings and gameplay.
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>>6570922
>tamagotchi
>text
>not making it one of those things that walks about on your desktop
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>>6571309
>not syncing with my phone so I can take my catgirl for walks so she'll fall asleep and stop chasing my cursor
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>>6571353
Honestly, a phone app, (megaman net-navi style) would be amazing. Something that frontends Siri/Cortana to be useful in addition to being cute. But that might be a bit beyond what anyone here can do.
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What does using the alternate personality even do? I've never noticed a difference.
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How playable is JONT? I kinda dismissed it because it seemed like a piece of shit after about 5 minutes of play
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>>6571365
Not that I've ever tried but it seems like any Russian with two lengths of copper and a dial-up internet connection can make a phone app these days. Too bad all those talking assistants sound like lobotomy patients, we should really be closer to synthesizing human speech.
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>>6571372
Staying profitable gets repetitive but there's a game there

I got sick of the sex and combat systems; a nice attempt but the result was not great.
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>>6571373
Frontending Siri, Cortana, or Hello would involve hacking the OS though, they've got that shit locked down.
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>>6571375
Eh

I'll give it another go, kinda run out of stuff to do in the /d/ games that I like
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>>6571371
I got an event about making something more efficient. Got the impression it'll turn into a slutty skynet
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>>6571376
That's sucks. You could rake in some NEETbux with a cute girl frontend.
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>>6571371
>>6571380
It makes the smart piercings more effective (or at least allows an event to trigger that makes them more effective)
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>>6571385
Ah okay

I always just use them for sub/hum and then I get confused over which one does what in game
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Is the current patreon version of trapquest containing all the hotel stuff so far?

And is there no torrents/links for it if it is? Considering it since it's like $5 but unsure how that shits working.
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>>6571378
I think FC is better now with the large exception of tentacle monster breeding and milking
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>>6571387
I set them to "all" to develop nympomania in my whores. I haven't explored the submissive or humiliation fetishes much

>>6571411
>breeding and milking
I've been bitching for fcdev to add this forever, and in the 4.9 update he nerfed milk. I have a mind to make my own shitty twine game for breeding/milking/my other niche fetishes.
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Is /dgg/ meant only for /d/ content or is it some sort of extra general for overflow from /agdg/ and /hgg/ ?
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>>6571236
Why are you correcting grammar and punctuation when you are so blatantly wrong about them?
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>>6571427
Huh, really?
Where?
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>>6571428
Pretty much every time you said an 'is' should be an 'are' you were dead wrong.
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>>6571435
There are two of those in total, out of ... lots.

But yeah.
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>>6571437
Also,
>A becoming steel
Makes perfect sense if you understand the breadth of meanings "becoming" has.
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>>6571435
>but the real attention getter is her unique, <<if $activeSlave.areolae is 3>>heart-shaped<<else>>star-shaped<</if>> areolae
I'll concede the second, but 'attention getter' is not uncountable

>>6571437
>>6571440
Oh, shit, right; I forgot about that sense
Please point them out, this is really bothering me
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>>6571440
Yeah, you should probably be a native English speaker for this kind of thing.
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>>6571424
It's mostly just the /d/ equivalent to /hgg/, but we're fine with pretty much everything here. There's not really enough fetish content to keep these threads alive usually, so talking about game development is heavily encouraged.
As a rule of thumb, I'd say that if you're not sure whether or not you can discuss it here, go for it. The worst that can happen is no one will reply to you.
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This is a purely hypothetical question

Would it be legal in the US to make a text-only h-game with subjects under age 18?

[spoiler]pls no ban[/spolier]
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>>6571448
>text-only
100% so.
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>>6571428
>daughters' -> daughter's
Wrong. Plural possessive.

>do, wasn't -> do - wasn't
Wrong, comma flows better.

>The only flesh visible at all is her mouth and chin, and her huge breasts, supported and presented by gentle corseting.
>is -> are
Wrong, it's describing the flesh, singular.

>arcology; from -> arcology, from
Semicolon dictates the pacing of the sentence, so to say it's incorrect is to criticize the stylistic choice rather than a grammatical point.

I could go on.
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>>6571443
In Indo-European languages, verbs agree with their subject, not their object. It doesn't matter whether the attention-getter is one cock, two areolae, or five thousand tentacles; there's one attention-getter.

Now I'm curious what your natlang is.
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>>6571450
>Plural possessive
It's just the one daughter, though.
>comma flows better
Admittedly (as this goes to show) I'm not too clear, but I always thought the use of commas to represent pauses for effect was ungrammatical.
>flesh
Yeah, I fucked up
>semicolon
Fuck me

>I could go on.
Please do.
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>>6571450
Commas and dashes are grammatically identical, so which one to use is a purely stylistic choice, but semicolons aren't. Semicolons can only be used to separate two independent clauses, so 100% of the time you can replace them with a period. Replacing it with a comma world be what's called a comma splice error.
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>>6571456
I agree with you on the comma, actually.
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>>6571456
It's one of the Daughters, the name is plural.
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>>6571462
>[RE addict mother daughter workaround]
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>>6571456
It is technically not grammatically incorrect to use commas to indicate pauses, but I wouldn't recommend it; it doesn't look as nice.
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>>6571456
>defenceless -> defenseless
Brit vs American, dunno which FC Dev uses but it's not an outright correction.

The rest looks okay, seems the bit I glanced over at first was a clusterfuck of oddities and not standard for the whole thing.
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>>6571483
Isn't using an S the Murican way? FC Dev seems to be American, so it makes sense to keep it consistent.
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>>6571491
Yeah, if he's been using American up to now it should be corrected, but I don't know which he uses. Some yanks use Brit spelling.
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>>6571483
That'll teach me to try to do these things at 4 AM.

>>6571455
>natlang
English, for all intents and purposes--I find myself using transliterated English phrases embarrassingly commonly--though strictly it's a second, after Chinese.
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>>6571496
That's your problem then, you're a dirty chink.
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>>6571496
...man, I just realized that FC has made me consider people's nationalities in an entirely new way.
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>>6571483
>>6571494
For consistency, people who write defense should write fense for the light wall-like thing, and fensing for the activity with swords.

>>6571496
That does explain the difficulty with plurals. Strive for perfection-- most of the best English speakers I know of are nonnative.
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>>6571499
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little 屁精?

>>6571504
How so?
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>>6571508
For consistency, people should write in a language that is not English.

>>6571510
My first thought at you saying you were Chinese was 'eh, I'd prefer Japanese, but a ton better than Vietnamese or Indonesian or whatever'.

Is it racist to mentally rank countries by how fuckable I'd find their people if I was considering making them my sex slaves?
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>>6571522
Not at all
>tan skin
>to the market you go
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>>6571527

You can fix that you know.
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>>6571530
That's not the point, she was tan at some point, so she has to go
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Free Cities needs some sort of limited-play-per-day feature so I don't play it ALL FUCKING NIGHT. God damn.
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>>6571535
I can't play for more than half an hour without just fapping to death :(
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>>6571538
Then I'll just have to set your masturbation rules to restrictive and start you on female hormones.
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Question for the thread:

If you came across someone that exactly matched you in FC, would you buy that person? And what would you do to them?
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>>6571566
Yes, and turn him into my personal sissy anal fucktoy. Unfortunately IRL I have to be my own sissy anal fucktoy.
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>>6571566
Yes. Bodyguard.
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>>6571566
>she is tall and dangerously skinny
>her face is ugly
>she is a virgin
>her penis is small enough to be a source of embarrassment on a male
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>>6571483
FC Dev lives in western US, so I'd guess American spellings.
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>>6571588
What country? Skin colour? Hair? Eyes?
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>>6571604
>She's American; ethnically, she's white
>Her hair is shoulder-length and blond
>Her eyes are blue
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>>6571607
...would. You're a fixer-upper but you'd probably be worth it. Since you're tall I'd probably fill you full of horse hormones to give you a monster dong to inflict on the other slaves, I'd keep you skinny though with A, maybe B cup breasts and a small butt. Get that whole willowy blonde with a monster dong thing going. So you'd probably be facing some facial reconstruction surgery since going the hormone route would interfere with the monster dong growing.

Probably go all-over tribal tattoos, but no piercings. For clothing... jewellery. Bisexual for the kink. You'll most likely end up as either a public servant or a head maid, or possibly a subordinate sex slave for a favoured cumslut or nympho slave.
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>>6570922
Why is the age measured in weeks?
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>>6571613
do hormones actually improve XY slaves' face? if so, just keep her on heavy hormones for a while, her penis is small already so 1 or 2 more weeks on penis enhancers will be all it'll takes after her face is prettied up
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>>6571566
Yes. And I'd bounce her around between subordinate sex slave, servant, fucktoy duty, and gloryhole depending on how I felt that minute. But letting her fully break break or her health go to shit is also off the table.
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>>6571642
They used to, not sure if they still do.
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>>6571624
Presumably because using days would be an unnecessary level of precision.
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>>6571613
>will never be enslaved by a qt benevolent arcology owner and have my entire existence bent to his whims
>will never be the perfect slave girl to be looked upon with pride by my master after years of training, intensive drug therapy, and surgeries
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>>6571624
Because of the way that twine is written, the author already has a $value set for age in weeks, which is expressed in the description "she has been with you for $value"
To express age in years, it would require an entirely different value
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>>6571566
> Anon is short and carrying a little extra weight. She's asian, and her skin is pale. Her hair is black and shoulder-length. Her face is unattractive.
> She is bitchy and constantly tries to get a word in edgewise.
> Her flat chest is barely there. She's got a healthy and plump derriere.
> She has a small penis, little enough to be a source of embarrassment on a male.
I'd probably saw all my limbs off for shits and giggles, dess.
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>>6571662
Short, chubby, pale, asian? I'd buy you, but you're gonna be on the receiving end of a lot of dicks. Female hormones to soften up the face, expand the tits out to about a D, keep the weight. Once the face is good you'll be off hormones so you'd maintain the ability to achieve a tiny erection. Grow the hair a bit longer, pierce the ears and nipples, tattoo something floral all over the back (a koi scene if you're Japanese). For clothes, a nice dress and heels and a pretty golden collar. Break the bitchiness, make you a buttslut.

You're gonna be a whore, but a high-class one. Once you've got the skills I'd dump a shitload of money into making you famous.
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I was reading earlier discussion of tamagochi like game and the idea struck me - did anybody try replicating Slut Life CYOA? Like a tamagochi/simulation game, where you setup your character based on SL rules and then watch/adjust. Maybe even tuck in roleplay and allow others to rate your popularity.
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>>6570999
It really is horrible
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Are there any games where I can play through as a sub/slave? All I've really played is CoC and some Rags games
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Questions:

What are the best games, indie or otherwise to let me play as women and do women stuff? Princess Maker?

What are the best rpgmaker games for gender swaping and transformation? I was playing one where you were a bearded man and you're trying to stop the end of the world and you get changed into a woman at the end. Right after that it said it wasn't finished.
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>>6571865
>I was playing one where you were a bearded man and you're trying to stop the end of the world and you get changed into a woman at the end. Right after that it said it wasn't finished.

Runes of Chaos maybe
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>>6571828
Pretty much everything on tfgamessite. No, none of it is finished.
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so all we have is writefags? where are all the artfags?
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>>6571879
Selling out to furries on patreon.
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Anybody have a download link for Newlife 0.3.13 yet?
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>>6570976
Okay, I got more specific with it.

I want my core gameplay loop to feature a leash for the player. The leash restricts movement and your relationship with the Domme can change the length of the leash and her behaviour towards it (like tugging).
There's also going "off the leash", which basically gives you a God moment for a while, because you're not restricted. It means to signify trust between you and Domme.

Obviously I thought of a top-down fighter, or just other top-down genres, but it really made no sense for me, that, if your Mistress wants you to do well (because you're protecting her, for instance) - why would she restrict you?

I looked at how people behave with dogs and it seems pretty obvious, that you tug the leash to stop your dog from doing random shit, that he thinks are good for him (but aren't), or doesn't know they're inappropriate. I don't know if this helps, though.
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>>6571907
That's .. different. All I can think of are the goddess-form transformations in Neps.

Maybe a sneaking game? Or one where diplomacy matters? The dog wants to bite everything, pee on everything, and eat everything, but the mistress knows free rein will only cause her aggravation.
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>>6571907
A leash mechanic would probably work better if you controlled the domme, or the domme and sub at the same time. Otherwise you're going to need to hide information from the player and design some pretty amazing AI for the domme. Or, it could be asymmetric co-op, where one player is the domme and another is the sub.

If you want to drop the leash mechanic but stick with the sub/domme thing, have this picture for inspiration.
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>>6571923
>Or, it could be asymmetric co-op, where one player is the domme and another is the sub.
Just seeing someone suggest that eliminated any interest I had in the idea.
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>>6571929
Uh, sorry, I guess.
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>>6571929
lol
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>>6571932
Not like it matters, I just will ignore it entirely if that anon decides to go with your idea.
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>>6570976

You're the Amazon management game person, right?

Do you want the gameplay to integrate some titillating components? It'd be more "interesting" *wink*.

Many types of gameplay can be tied to porn, but not ALL types of gameplay turn into ALL types of porn.

Reference games:

King of Dragon Pass.
Not porn. Visual novel slash tribe management. You have a circle of advisors whose skills and religion can affect your options and success rates.

Istaran Dragonrpg.
Porn. Flash game / text adventure.
You start as a tiny dragon. Encounters are fights, or talks. Fights are a weird rock/paper/scissor thing. When you defeat humanoids, you can Roar to enslave them, then they're your tribe's workers.
Certain unique humanoids can be befriended; they become allies, not slaves. They can be talked to, given gifts, then sexed.
Dragonrpg turns late-game into slow hard-to-control TB strategy game which is just horrible.

Rai7
Porn. Space strategy game.
Each underling is a resource to direct. If you play as the overlord, you control all underlings directly. Each space ship needs a captain. Science needs researchers, personnel (HR) increase loyalty, supply officers restore space ship "HP".
Women can be sexed. Their loyalty might go up or down. If you rape, it goes down. If you cheat on your wife, she might divorce. Loyalty management.

A Dark Room
Not porn. Idle game with an end goal.
Text-based game where number of followers gathers you resources. You use resources to explore "dungeons".

I suggest:

Decide how the character uses resources to display "supernatural" power. Fighting?

This gives followers to control & sex. Basic workers are your 'gatherers'. Sex scenes are generic.

Resource gathering - look into idle games / clicker games. Hunters vs fishers vs crafters sorta stuff.

Unique companions. Named characters. Unique sex scenes, which take longer to unlock. Work as advisors, give global bonuses, give extra options & choices, unlocking new areas or something.
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why does no one come up with a simple idea that they could actually finish in a month or two?
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>>6571998
For me, it's because simple things aren't fun to make. Detailed modelling of mutations, random generation, building custom text parsers, that's what I find fun to program. It's also why I never get anything done... Not that I need to, because nobody ever expects anything from me.
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>>6571974
No I'm not, lol.
>>6571916
>>6571923
I don't think I need amazing AI for the Domme, but I think I got it.

The Domme follows a path to her objective through the world. The player's on a leash, but he isn't really restricted by it much, he just has to stick around. He acts as a defense for the Domme and she'll tug him if she needs help, she'll also fight herself, but be very displeased when she's forced to do so.
You might explore the world to the sides of the Domme's path, but you might notice things beyond your reach. For these, you have a "bark" button, that makes the Domme check out what you've found. Whether she responds is dependent of your relationship with her and poor loot/crying wolf with make her resent you faster.

This ties in pretty well with what I had before in terms of storyline. In order to actually try and make the player "hate" his Domme (and get even better hateboners), the player is first introduced to a "white" Domme, a tutorial one, that's loving, caring, lets you do basically everything within reason and is everything you've dreamed of. Then, after the tutorial ends, she's assaulted (lol spoilers) by a second, "black" Domme and murdered and the player is claimed by her. She's not boasty or bitchy, but cold and professional, so you cannot really hate her personality as much as her actions. By just changing a couple of variables, she's much more strict and the effects of that are doubled by how the player learned to play the game with the white Domme.
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>>6572007
Ack, I don't like the murder part, but the rest sounds good. What if she got possessed, and while following her orders you collected holy relics (on the sly) to exorcise the evil spirit?

Random idea: domme uses the leash to swing you like a weapon when she's particularly pissed.
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>>6571923
>design some pretty amazing AI for the domme.

>tfw skynet comes out of a perv's wet dream instead of military bullshit
>sexinators everywhere
>come inside me if you want to live

call me for judgement day bros
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>>6572124
I doubt this anon would need to develop a general intelligence for a porn game, but one dream.
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Hey anyone have the full sissylife cyoa. Not the image but the big long pdf text one
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>>6571998
The one that gets me is all the fucking twine porn games that aren't finished

It's just fucking writing, wait until it's done to put it up for download
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>>6572261
Should clarify a bit as you can do complex stuff with twine

I mean all the ones that are just Visual novels without the pictures, just cyoa
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>>6572261
When you're creating shit for free, especially in a niche like this, there's not many motivations. One of the popular one is for the kudos and attention, and releasing a complete product out of the blue doesn't get as much attention for effort as promising the killer app of porn games and dribbling out content over fifty pre-alphas before getting bored and wandering off.

That's why people that actually get shit done are a rarer breed and so adored by their fans, because some purer motivation drives them forward.
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Jesus christ all these tutorials in JONT

and they're pretty much needed to work out what the game wants you to do
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>>6572267
That game is more challenging and compelling than actual management sims I paid actual money for.
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>>6572269
It's like when I downloaded Kamidori Alchemy Meister to fap and ended up finding my favourite jrpg

By the time porn did turn up it was just distracting me from the gameplay
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>>6572271
I felt the same way about Littlewitch Romanesque. Came for the porn, stayed because I wanted to adopt the two student girls and protect them from all the evils of the world.
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>>6572267
>tfw only completed the tutorial on the last day before money ran out
It's a hard game
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>>6572340
Hard but rewarding!
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>>6571236
Aren't all the 'th' replacing 's' just slaves with overly large tongue piercings speaking? I think it's supposed to be them slurring. On a regular slave, the text is normal.
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Any good futa/futa on female recommendations? I know it's tame for most of you, but I could use some games with those fetishes.
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FC needs chrono-slaves. For... incentive.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chrono-gladiator
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>>6571883
Still waiting myself m8
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>>6571880
To be fair, a lot of people on /d/ fantasy about being sluts and whores. And whats a whore other than someone that will do something degrading for money.
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>>6571998

>Come up with a simple idea
>Start working
"Fuck me, this isn't simple at all! I need to learn how to actually program"
>Learn basic programming
"Wow, this actually WAS really simple. Now that I know Java, I can do something a little more involved. It won't be that much harder to do."
>Start working
"Fuck me, this is way harder than I thought. I need to learn how to program better."
>Go back to learning programming
"Well, I've finished that--but what a kludgy mess! I should really tear it all up and start again on a better system--"
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>>6572459
>Well, I've finished that
>implying implications
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>>6572459
Exactly this. FC is a maze of inelegant cludges. JoNT is pure Russo-Lovecraftian madness. CoC is so badly-written it literally blinded someone. But pretty much everyone here knows what those initials mean because the authors pressed on instead of letting perfect be the enemy of done.
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>>6572464
>But pretty much everyone here knows what those initials mean
Yeah, apart from JoNT. It's been nicknamed SlavTrainer for a while, idk how the name lost its popularity.
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Free Cities OST: Track 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
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>>6572469
Probably because before /dgg/ became a regular thing, most of the time over on /vg/ people would think you were talking about Slavemaker.
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>>6570987
You might accidentally mindbreak a girl and it would take longer to get them to obedient. Other than that, nothing.
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>>6572474
Can you ever undo mindbreakage, I thought once they were mindbroken they were dribbling idiots and couldn't really gain any useful skills?
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>>6572471
That's exactly where the nickname SlavMaker came from.
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>>6572477
Yeah, it's a cute pun and all, but it gets annoying fast when every single thread there's someone that's never heard of Slavmaker and just assumes you're talking about Slavemaker.
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>>6572476
>Can you ever undo mindbreakage

No, it's identical to a chemical lobotomy.

I wish you could nurse girls back to health. Oh well. When I make my game never.
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>>6572269
>>6572267
JONT is a weird mix of incredibly complex and overly simple

Like fucking food has 3 different levels of micromanagement but rating often just comes down to looks being the limiting factor
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>>6571566

Hrm, not sure. What's the fattest a slave can be in FC? I'm fairly rotund.

Let's see...

Tall, fat, American, blue eyes, black hair, pale skin, caucasian

Depends. As a girl my hair is honestly probably 'Brunette', it's that super-close to black, brown.

If my hair was brown it would depend on if I already had a bodyguard and wanted to slum it or not. Oh wait, I'm mid 20s. Yeah, I wouldn't buy me. I only buy 'tall' white people if they're 18 or 19. Or if they're anorexic.

I play on XX mode regardless.


It twine the best option for a non-programmer who wants to make a game with simplified Mendelian genetics? Asking for a friend.

>>6572363
For what purpose?

>>6572491
I really wish FC had physical lobotomies.

Though, I wish FC had girls under 18 since that is my primary fetish.

BTW, FCdev. You mentioned that you hope people respect your wishes about not modding it to have under-aged girls after it hits 1.0 and mods become a thing, even though you had no illusions people would respect that wish. Speaking as someone who was literally planning to mod-in lolis the instant you hit 1.0, might I suggest you make a page including your wishes Re: that sort of thing at some point? While I think you're being silly with regards to my primary fetish, I won't be modding it now that I know you actually have a problem with that. I just assumed you weren't including it because it didn't appeal.
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What's JoNT?
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>>6572500
slavmaker / jack o' nine tails which our brilliant pastebin maker decided to name JONT even though no one is aware of that abbreviation.

If you haven't played it go to the wiki, download it, get the hgg mod and the grimdark mod (better pictures) and play it. It's one of the best amateur h-games out there.
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>>6572498
>I really wish FC had physical lobotomies.

Why? What would they offer that chemlobs don't

>Though, I wish FC had girls under 18

The game I'm making will have girls under 18.
[spoiler]But you won't be able to do anything sexual with them while they're underage, you sick fuck. Only raise them to be nice ladies.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Then anything goes[/spoiler]
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What the hell is "feature creep"?
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>>6572508
It's when you decide to add new features to a game you're already partway through making and further delay the game's release. A lot of the time it leads to games being released unfinished due to deadlines or running out of money, or never being finished at all.
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>>6572508
It's when you're working on a project, of any kind, and you start getting creative.
>What if I add X?
>Oh Y would be really cool!
before you know it, you've forgotten why you started, your project is a mess, and you have no hope of finishing it. Additionally, in an H-game, all those features can just end up being tedious or redundant for the player to manage
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>>6572515
With the added risk of being regularly tempted to tear the whole thing down because it's become a kludgy mess of things being shoehorned into systems that were never meant to account for them.
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>>6572505
It would add being my fetish, anon. I might start giving my lobo'd girls custom 'scar' descriptions in the future and just pretending. I'm not seriously suggesting he should add physical lobotomies, since I'm probably the only person who would enjoy it.

Anyway, yeah. I want to fuck the little girl. I mean, we're already having to make due with picture-less text beaus it is the only workable alternative. One of the few advantages of text-only is that underaged stuff is easily done without worry of legal complications. Yet no one is letting me fuck lolis.
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>>6572523
Lobotomies were usually done through the eye socket, so they didn't leave visible scars.
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>>6572523
Why don't you just mod FC for yourself and not release it?
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>>6572528
If no one but me is going to benefit from it, I'm not motivated enough to put effort into making the mod. At that point I might as well try and fail to make my own game, since at least I can share it with others then. I actually briefly considered trying to make a game inspired by FC with a female main character and lolis, but then I realized that I'm not a programer and I'd feel scummy if I didn't ask FCguy about it first.

>>6572526
Is that so? Huh. So my fetish is unrealistic. That's depressing.
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http://imgur.com/a/35p3D
does ANYONE think this is a good character window? Jesus christ those faces are disgusting. Why would anyone pick this over danaume? And this is for patrons.
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>>6572542
What am I looking at?
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>>6572543
Trapquest has a side window showing how the character looks. It has 3 modes. 2 dynamic modes, Danaume and Keriax. You're looking at Keriax. The 3rd and oldest is just vaguely fitting photos of each bodypart.
Keriax has a hideous artstyle imo.
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>>6572542
They look like some sort of weird goblin-zombie, not my kind of game anyway
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>>6572547

Yeah, that's what I thought too. Creepy as fuck.
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>>6572542
Yeah, not pleasant. Has that gross Western porn look, like it's going to go full guro/scat at any moment. The first character looks like bimbo twink Hitler. That tileset sucks too, what a distracting color scheme.
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>>6572547
I adore the game, but yeah, not my artstyle.
>>6572552
yup. For one the hip anatomy is just crazy. For another, what's up with the face?
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>>6572542
They look like they've got too many or too few chromosomes.
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>>6572539

I hope that FC Dev lets you do it. I'd also like lolis in FC. If FC Dev is in the US then there's absolutely zero chance of legal issues for him allowing it anyway.
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I dunno about outright asking FC Dev. I mean I want him to have control but at the same time I'm thinking that if he's outright asked of course he's going to have to say no, because even if there's no legal consequences if he gets outed (which has happened to western h-game makers in the past) and it's on the record that he said 'sure make a loli mod that's fine' then bam, life ruined. So he'd have to say no just to cover his ass, even if he'd be fine with it. But if nobody asks him about it he can claim plausible deniability should that worst case scenario happen.
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>>6572564
Good point. How about: If FC dev is violently opposed to loli content in his creation, then he should say so now. If he doesn't, people can move forward. He can always say that he didn't happen to read this comment.
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>>6572505
But, buuut what part of the world is it based in, U18 isn't abnormal in many parts. Sad face.
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>>6572561
>>6572564
>>6572567

He literally outright said in...

>>6567896

>Modding is of course fine. It would be neat if modders credited me and respected the loli prohibition, but it's a simple .html. I have no illusions about my ability to control that.

While I have no problem with blithely ignoring the rights of creators to, say, get paid. I like FC dev and his creation. Since he has some sort of problem with loli apparently, I am willing to respect his wishes. Admittedly it may have something to do with the fact that he didn't throw a bitchfit and try to force us not to do it. I have a lot of respect for people who admit they can't force something, but ask nicely. Also Fcdev seems like a cool guy, eh makes H-games and actually updates regularly. I'd prefer not to demoralize him.
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>>6572572
Honestly if he had thrown a bitchfit I would at this very moment be writing that mod just to spite him.
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>>6572579
Yeah, same. He's so legit about it that I can't bring myself to piss on his work, tho.

Bastard probably planned this.
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>>6572542
Face is total dogshit, suprised they managed to find a way to make TQ uglier

Good thing I don't like trapquest (it's far too gameplay heavy without ever having good gameplay)
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>>6572498
>For what purpose?
Incentive. She would probably be a lot more enthusiastic if her life literally depended on it.
Every second spent having sex or otherwise following orders increases the counter by three seconds.
Every second spent masturbating when "not allowed to" decreases it by a minute. Pleasure yourself all you want, but you are throwing away your life doing so.

Obviously it wouldn't actually track the remaining time (mechanically speaking). It would just alter the random event messages a little.
Maybe add an event where one of your resting slaves realizes that she's almost out of time, and comes to you begging for something to do to earn some more.
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>>6572542
Male/top face is a bit off, but I honestly don't mind the body. Could partially be because the cum looks like drool.
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>>6572579
How dare he want some measure of control of his own creation?! We're tough internet guys who are gonna stick it to the Man!
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>>6572648
If a guy is prone to throwing bitchfits then I want to cause those bitchfits because I do not like the type of guy that throws bitchfits. Your aggrieved tone indicates you may be one such person, please let me know what would infuriate you so I can immediately do it.
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>>6572658
>please let me know what would infuriate you so I can immediately do it.
Just carry on being yourself. That should be plenty.
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>>6572661
Way ahead of you, buddy.
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So to reply to the discussion about modding FC to add content that I won't include. I like FC. I plan to keep adding to it for a long time. It's most of the way to 1.0 now, but when it gets there, I hope I still like it enough to add new random scenes when the urge strikes, DLC style. If FC post 1.0 is dominated by modding activity that includes content that I've declared out of bounds, that would probably make me like FC less, which would probably deny me the motivation to add more content. That would be sad. All I'm asking is that modders leave FC's author appeal intact, because that's the only motivation I've got, here.

In other news I'm looking to get 0.5 up tomorrow night. At the moment I'm working on an interesting upgrade for each of the facilities.
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>>6572683
How are you such a class act? What is your secret? Do you sacrifice small mammals to a demon prince? Seriously, give me their number, I can get baby rabbits in bulk, I know a guy.
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>>6572683
Haters gonna hate.

Honestly, I'd prefer no mods and you do your own thing than allowing mods and you losing interest in the game (like happened with the development of SDT).

If you do ever go "welp, I'm done, not touching this again" I think all of us would appreciate being able to plug things into the code (or allow for other devs to make forks) if it ever comes to that but for now I am just interested in what you can offer.
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>>6572683
best dev
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>>6572542
I like it
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>>6572683
Best... DEV.... EVER!
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>>6572683
Alright, that makes sense. You do you FC dev, you do you.

>>6572708
from what I understand it wouldn't be hard for people to mod it now, the only reason no one is has to do with FC dev moving fast and stomping bugs like a motherfucker, so any mods would be out of date too soon to matter. I could be wrong though.
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>>6572629
I would honestly just like to be able to organise mock executions for shiggles.
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just found a bug that allows you to increase an anal virgin slave obedience to the max
when the anal inspection event pops up allow her to keep her virginity, then click her name and then continue
this will bring you back to the anal inspection event, which allows you to keep her virginity again, increase her obedience
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>>6572720
Correct. I've modded other games and thought about modding FC but... most games, even if they're still active, update on a timescale of months. FC Dev updates multiple times a week, and before it was daily. Any mod I'd make would require either constant updating or it'd be left in the dust within a week. So I'll save the effort for when he either moves on to the next project, or for when the Gods curse him into animal form, like Athena did to Arachne.
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>>6572683
FCdev. It's imperative that you add a gloryhole expansion to the arcology. I am sentencing a lot of girls to gloryholes and my gamescreen gets ubercluttered.
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>>6572683
It kinda pisses me off how much people like you. It's unrealistic. I bet if I were in your position people would treat me like fen 2.0 or something.
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Well crap, now my motivation to fire up FC tonight is dead if the new version is coming tomorrow.

Hopefully milk income will go up in v0.5 (and I made a suggestion on the blog about it), I'm a big fan of rows upon rows of limbless, lobotomized tits-with-life-support-systems hanging from racks in a dairy...

First World Problems, haha.

I had plans to build a cockmilking array. Not for commercial use, but all my shemales hitting 40, nobody wants to fuck old slaves, may as well put them to use and this way I don't have to import cum for the slave paste mixture I feed the rest of them.

Pic related, I have this urge to be a humongous asshole to slaves. Thought you could get a slave vacation and get bought back by parents? Fuck you, bitch, you're never getting out.
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>>6572733
FC Dev is a cool guy who dislikes furries and consistently releases updates that improve the game. People liked Fen before he became a huge bitch and freaked out at his fans.
People would only treat you like Fen 2.0 if you were as much of a faggot as Fen.
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>>6572728
We already know this loop. It happens with all events.
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>>6572730
I would LOVE it if the gloryholes got a brothel/promenade-style sub-list thing.

I would put SO MANY criminals and rebels in them.
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Also, a harem subroom for storing all the fucktoy girls like the brothel and dairy. It'd probably be wildly impractical to have that many women dedicated to one dick but what's the point of being a Free City tycoon if you can't be wildly impractical?
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>>6572737
Is she from an event or something?
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>>6572730
>>6572743

Stockade? Just bulk public punishment, +rep but girls end up mind-broken over time or something.
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>>6572747
She's from the luxury slave market, you can access it once you're ridiculously renowned and there's only one available per day and they cost a fortune, but they come with fame and neat backstories.
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>>6572749
I like the idea of a public stockade or something. But why get them mindbroken? I assure you I have mastered getting girls to devoted while never removing them from the gloryhole
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>>6572750
I'm asking because I tend to not be a humongous asshole to slaves, and it sounds very nice to be able to indulge her.
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Can you get whores to make more than ~2000 FCgolds?

What are all the conditions? I know they get extra money for: Beauty, being the dominant race of the area, prestige, any sexual inclination other than normal, being nymphos, being on aphrodisiacs, whoring alongside a friend.

Anything else I'm missing?
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>>6572747
She's one of the hardcoded starting slaves. Beatrice (No. 525) I think is the full name. I just plastic surgeried the FUCK out of her.

>>6572749
Yeah I am totally into this idea, just a big bank of fuckpods with other slaves periodically cleaning/feeding the sentencees. It kind of serves the same purpose as the Promenade though (+rep) but the Evil Asshole Oligarch in me would rather something like this that acts as a deterrent than the current Promenade where the slaves are implied to be high-class and such.
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>>6572757
A shame. It would be a nice event. I was very dissapointed the recruiter couldn't get nympho voluntary slaves. I have a fetish for girls that voluntarilly get in a situation they can't voluntarilly get out and they know it.
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>>6572756
Most (all?) surgery options also add to whoring income. The plastic doll whore pic I posted a little above brings in ~2700/week, and she has no relative/lover or innate prestige
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>>6572757
You could choose whether to have 2 arcology currency units per fuck, like in the normal gloryhole, or some rep per girl. Then you could have a single girl making sure they don't get mindbroken and cleaning them, a la the stewardess/madame/milkmaid etc
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>>6572751

Well, I suppose they could just even out at some point, but if it's a standard facility there's an equilibrium somewhere. Mindbreak normally happens in gloryholes, if you just push them off to a new screen they probably head that way if you don't cycle them out or something. Maybe the supervision position slot would negate such a problem.

>>6572757

Heh, that could also work. The giant fuckbox drives the obedience of unruly slaves not in it up because they don't want to end up there.
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>>6572756
whoring with a family member, experience
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>>6572756
I think entertainment skill increases whoring income, too.
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Honestly what I would really like, and I'm pretty sure FCdev can do it, is if you could sentence girls to something for given periods of time. Say gloryhole for 10 weeks or something. Then get a message when they get out.
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>>6572763
For a Stockade facility I would probably set the devotion normalization to Fearful (not Resistant or Rebellious because being a set of wholes to fuck would break their will, but certainly not Obedient or higher because, well, you consigned them to be faceless wholes for anyone to fuck).

The benefit would be purely +rep and maybe +devotion to NON-gloryhole slaves (probably less rep than the Promenade and a pretty tiny +dev bump per hole'd slave to balance it).
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Ok. I found a bug. If you place someone in the semen milking facility, they still appear in the summary each week
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>>6572756
Wait, there's a separate income bump for whores on aphrodisiacs?

Well, hell, I guess all mine are going to be addicts in my next game.
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>>6572756
also having a smart piercing at all.
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Thinking about making all my whores aphrodesiac addicts made me realize that shemales always getting hurt when whoring/serving the public is annoying.

Female slaves with maxed-out skills stop taking damage, but either because shemales only get 2 skills instead of 3, or because they only have 2 holes, even a fully-skilled shemale takes damage unless you have them on preventatives.

It feels pretty bogus IMO.
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>mfw FCDev still hasn't added a schoolgirl uniform

O-ok

>>6572782
They stop taking damage when they get to masterful shemales, for me.
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>>6572785
I will double check this but I'm pretty certain even at Masterful Shemale they get a line like 'being a shemale whore is tough on her' and lose health.
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>>6572683
All this talk of gloryholes reminded me. Didn't you mention refluffing it before so that what it did was a little more self-evident?
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>>6571566
No, since I play without males. Boring, I know.
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>>6572757
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>>6572782
>It feels pretty bogus IMO.
Kind of makes sense, though. They have ~33% fewer holes.
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>>6572798
But if I put a girl in a chastity belt and whore her, she doesn't take damage nearly as constantly as shemales do, despite using the same holes.
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On the topic of chastity when can we put chastity cages on male slaves?
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>>6572801
Fair point.

...maybe she should? Does wearing a belt reduce whoring income?

>>6572802
Requesting chastity belts that prevent anal, chastity bras and some sort of "chastity muzzle" that prevents oral but not speech.
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What's the highest entertainer rank? Expert? There isn't a master rank?
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>>6572858
There is, but basically the only way to get it is to throw them onto the promenade. You can't personally train above 'skilled', which is the basic tier, and I don't think Head Girls can do it either.
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Do slaves in the brothel and slaves whoring outside the brothel use the same income formula?
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>>6572874
No. Far as I can tell, brothel whores earn significantly less.
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>>6572858
rank 3

>>6572864
what? no, just set them to public servant
and HG can do it if she's rank 3 too
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>>6572885

I think they only appear to earn less because the brothel runs them into the ground. They don't have any time to recover their gaping orifices.
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>>6572802
Do you not even read what FC Dev says? It would be a lot of effort for something that the majority of the players works feel indifferent at best about. It would be better for him to spend his time making the game better.
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>>6572908
Where did he say that?
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>>6572915
A couple of threads ago. He said that make chastity belts would be a pain in the ass so don't expect them any time soon.
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>>6572908
>>6572915
We need to write a bible with everything FC Dev has said. Who wants to be pope? I think we have enough nuns in the thread.
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>>6572921
I'll be Pope only if I get to wear the cool hat and can declare a crusade.
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>>6572921
Would the pope be FC Dev's head girl in this case?
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>>6572921
We need a wiki.
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>>6572928

An external one.
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So, what skills exist? Anal, Vaginal, oral, whore, entertainer and fighter.

Is there a skill for trainer?
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>>6572756
Lactation is a massive jump in profits.

I've had whores jump from 2200 to 2800 per turn just from the lactation implant
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Do skills improve when you have a girl in the promenade or brothel?
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>>6572928
seconded
that said, does anyone know the important stats/skills for the different house leads are?
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>>6572961
brothel age>35, dick, balls, no hormones, w+++
promenade age>35, face++ (surgical ok), e+++
milkmaid age<21, muscles>1, health>=8
head girl age>35

haven't checked the extractor

... turn on abbreviations if that doesn't make sense to you
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>>6572969
Stewardess is Age>35, dick, balls, no hormones, and health>=8
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>>6572969
...old, fat futas make the best madams?
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>>6572984
Whore level 3.
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>>6572988
Ah.

What does "no hormones" mean? Can slaves be on hormones while in another building, or does it mean "never used hormones"?
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I sort of wish FC had more unchangeable slave traits. I know that that would probably piss off the bodymod/brainwashing enthusiasts, but when any slave can be turned into any other slave (with the exception of adding dicks to women and a few other minor things), hunting for an ideal slave starts to feel sort of pointless.

Maybe give some slaves a permanent fetish and/or personality flaw in addition to the changeable one everyone can have?
If you wanted to, you could take a slave with permanent fetish X and also give her adjustable fetish X to get an even bigger bonus, for example.

Does the custom slave order "shop" take into account how specific you were when ordering? Maybe have the default be "I don't care", and then have each specified trait increase the final price by X% (with the base cost still determined by the actual quality of the slave).

Maybe you could make an out-of-game slave editor where you had complete control over all traits, combined with the ability to import the slave into the game and get it for free? It could obviously be used to cheat, but the game has a cheat mode anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
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>>6572956
Yes, they improve, they just don't show up in the weekly summary screen. You'll only know about the improvements if you check the promenade/brothel screen yourself and see the new summaries.

On a side note, I really wish whoever was making Newlife would make a male or FtM version of the game. I know this is /d/, but god dammit, I want a male version to play too.
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>>6572993
It means that you can't be giving the administrator hormones, and have to stop any hormone regimen.

The game doesn't take into account if they were previously on hormones though.
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>>6573019
So building admins can be on drugs? Not sure why I thought they couldn't.
How about the workers?
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What's the deal with the intro to Witch Trainer? I just wanna train up a Witch, but I keep getting killed by Snape
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>>6573045
I think you have to block when he's charging a certain attack or something. It's been a while since I played it.
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>>6573045
Download Bitch Trainer, it has cheats built in. It's still incredibly repetitive, but slightly less terrible.
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>>6573053
Why did they decide to include a long ass intro and a boring ass wizard fight in this game about rape and titties?
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>>6573062
Akabur is a fucking retard, that's why.
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>>6573062
Because Akbur is a terrible game maker.
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>>6573062
It's actually mostly a game where you talk to snape about his disaster of a romantic life and try to slug through dozens of ungratifying and useless books to progress.
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>>6573062
Porn feels more rewarding if there's a story leading up to it and if you have to work for it. "Click here to see boobs" isn't nearly as much fun. Some guys really overdo it though.
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>>6573069
Snape is somehow the best part of the game.

The worst part of the game is the choose your own adventure book. Literally why.
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>>6573071
There is no porn though.

Just Chibis and one scene where you can make Hermoine yell whatever random shit you want.
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>>6573074
Still has bewbs tho.

http://stregac.github.io/trainers_image_library/index.html
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>>6573071
How does reading a shitty CYOA make seeing badly drawn chibis more fulfilling?
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>>6573078
>>6573071
>How does reading a shitty CYOA make seeing badly drawn chibis more fulfilling?
>Some guys really overdo it though.
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What's the difference between Whorelock's Revenge and Journey through Izildia? I know that both of the original fap roulettes were relatively similar.
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>>6573083
Whorelock's Revenge at least has some semblance of gameplay, though it's pretty shit.
Journey Through Izildia doesn't even try to be a game.
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>>6573094
Are either of them any good or is it just better to stick with the pictures? From what it looked like it just seemed like a way to make it more automated.
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>>6573096
I didn't think either of them were good, but that's mostly up to the individual.
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>>6573096
Whorelock is neat from a "gee this gameplay feature could really be useful" point of view but it's really repetitive and rather RNG-heavy... as expected of a game based entirely on rolling dice
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>>6573100
>>6573101
Alright thanks, guess I'll give them a go and see if it's for me then.
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Can you un-break a slave in JoNT?
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>>6573107
No.
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>>6572921

Did he say anything about getting to name our city? "The Arcology" is really impersonal.
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>>6573169
The city isn't named "The Arcology," it just is an Arcology.
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>>6573169
The whole game is impersonal. It's too late to change that fact now.
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The thing that mildly irritates me about free cities having a no loli rule (which I understand FCDev's legit reason for) is that it seems so out of place for the super unethical anarcho libertarian hedonism domains of individuals with supreme power to all somehow agree on the one thing that squicks them, when everything else they permit is so damn awful.
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>>6573236
"No loli" doesn't necessarily mean that it never happens, just that the game never portrays or mentions it.

The lack of loli rape in the GTA games doesn't mean that all the amoral scumbag criminals in [city] got together and decided not to rape any kids, just that the devs don't want that sort of thing in their games.
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>>6573255
FC kind of goes out of its way to explicitly state it's against the laws. AFAIK it's the only thing against the law aside from contract breaking.
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>>6573282
Oh, right. Completely forgot about that. Never mind then.

Maybe it's an important part of some old treaty, and the other owners would use a violation as an excuse to invade and loot your arcology without risking retribution? They don't actually have to care about the act itself for the law to be "enforced" in that way.
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>>6573236
They probably have to stay away from some super taboos just to prevent the rest of the world from getting all up in their shit. Although nobody gives a fuck about Saudi Arabians diddling kids so what the fuck do I know.
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>>6573292
Yeah, there's a definite way to write it as "personal quirk of old influential arcology founder, too much status quo inertia to bother changing it"
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>>6573014
>out-of-game slave editor
I think that'd be harder than an in-game slave editor. I made a cheatbox piggybacking off the custom description page so I could dick around between faps.
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>>6573304
Meant more in the sense of "a cheating tool not tied to any specific playthrough/save". Honestly, I just want to create myself for fun.
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>>6573304
damn, now I wanna learn HTML
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>>6571883
The latest newlife update adds something new
The choice to beg for someone to not cum in you

Hes stepping up, no more mister prude now
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>>6573366
but beforehand, if you ask him to wear a condom and he says no, will he always comply if you ask him ever-so-nicely to leave?
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>>6573357
It's in Twine. I just copypasted the custom description textbox a bunch of times for every variable and then added type conversions where it writes the activeSlave to the slave roster.
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>>6573357
HTML is easy, javascript is tricky, and making a compelling game loop is a royal pain in the arse. It's almost like people do this for their job.
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>>6573551
Willful has three Ls, and you need to replace both semicolons in the first paragraph with commas.
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>>6573554
OUTSIDE OF ESSAYS AND CONTRACTS SEMICOLONS ARE A STYLISTIC CHOICE REPRESENTING THE PACE OF A SENTENCE RATHER THAN HARD AND FAST RULES.
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>>6573554
The first semicolon is fine, but the second one needs to be a comma. As an anon said earlier, semicolons can always be replaced by periods, so just use that as a simple test to see which punctuation to use.
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>>6573554
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wilful

And thanks, but I'll be fixing the game loop before I mess around with the text compositing.
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>>6573551
Why even follow FC's format? It's boring.
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>>6573557
It, is, not, grammatically, incorrect, to, add, a, comma, after, every, word, thus, making, most, commas, a, purely, stylistic, choice. That still doesn't mean you should disregard conventional English writing just because you can.
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>>6573563
it isn't going to be. It's just inspiration and some filler content whilst I'm working out how to make a game out of "text-tamagotchi slavegirl".

It won't be a harem game.
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>>6573557
I'll be sure to take you more seriously because of the caps, and, if you're going to do something, do it correctly.
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>>6573557
To be fair in this instance it's because semicolons are a really convenient way to mechanically construct a sentence into object; effect. I agree the second semicolon needs to go.
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Something about Free Cities thats bothering me, Submissive seems to be mixed with exhibitionism. I know it seems arbitrary but being seen and turned on by that is pretty different from being a submissive. I know FC Dev is trying to go deeper with fetishes and less broad, but this just seems like a mistake, or a misuse. Like exhibitionism and submissive should be different sexualities.
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>>6573563
Not that guy, but are there even other formats you can use for text-only?
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>>6573740
Being forced to show off in public seems like it would appeal to a submissive on some level.
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>>6573740
Remember, in FC some terms are interpreted differently from their modern definitions.

Like Shemale covers everything from sissies to transgenders to normal adult men. Or how nymphos aren't people who suffer from high libido or have a sex addiction, they're instead sexual ubermensches who can do everything fflawlessly.

Submissive probably covers all of the shame-based fetishism.
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>>6572796
... And the opposite wall is just hooded heads strapped to the wall so their throats are straight. Probably with their teeth pulled as well. God damn, I keep finding out that I'm more of a sick fuck than I already thought I was.

>>6573872
Seems like that would be covered by the Humiliation fetish (what used to be called Exhibitionism). Submissive I usually use for non-sexual slaves (servants and such) to signify that they're well-broken and accepting of their place in life.

Hell, I use Bisexual not necessarily for 'like girls' but more often as 'smart piercing programmed to condition them to enjoy training other slaves' for my HG, Madam, Concierge, etc.

But pleasure conditioning is one of my buttons so I have this whole head-canon thing going like that...
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>>6573566
That is absolutely untrue. There are cases where one may choose whether or not to place a comma; however, commas and semicolons are not interchangeable, nor may commas be placed with absolute impunity outside of quoted text.
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>>6574028
Alright, anon. Just point to the part of the codified Rules of English book that indicates that.
English, like literally every language, exists only to facilitate the transfer of thoughts from one being too another. Both of you anons seem to think that there is something more, rules that must be followed. There are not.
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>>6573740
What are you talking about? Humiliation is the exhibitionist trait. That is different from the submissive trait.
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>>6574035
>people don't have different reactions to different ways of conveying the same information
It's like you're not even aware of what's going on.
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>>6574035
Let's not forget. Subjective mental states are unverifiable thus resulting in a permanent problem of indeterminate translations.

Or was it that the meaning of linguistic conventions can't be removed from the real use of terms in social practice therefore making concrete and certain definitions impossible?

Or wait, was it that meaning is a function of the positionality of signs within a given linguistic system, but since linguistic systems are not given meaning is subordinated to an ideological struggle about competing narratives?

Doesn't matter. Either way language is irrational and we should probably not think about it too much.
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>>6574040
Who are you quoting? Because nothing in my past even implied anything to the contrary.
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>>6574046
Your research subject is describing that he feels differently about different punctuation. It's exactly the same as describing the difference between an acrolect and basilect (try getting a Singaporean to talk in basilect in public), or politeness levels such as "Could you bring me that pen?" vs "Bring me that fucking pen, bitch!". Pretending it doesn't exist is disingenuous at best.

Are you one of those "You can't tell me what to do! You're not my dad!" types? I know several linguists -- grown men! -- who are.
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>>6574053
What? Are you reading different posts than I am? Those anons seemed to imply that there was a strict code for how language can be written, when in reality there is not.
You don't make any sense. In what way is calling someone a bitch and "improperly" using a semicolon the same? It's disingenuous at best to act like the two are even tangentially related.
Also, what kind of an idiot uses a simile that only people from Singapore would understand?
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>>6574028
>>6574035
>>6574040
>>6574045
>>6574046
>>6574053
>>6574061
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Philosophical linguistic debate is the most sickening fetish I've ever encountered on /d/.
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>>6574075
I'm tempted to analyse goofy walking naked as an example of quinean indeterminacy of translation.
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>>6572683
FC Dev is a cool guy. He gave me bodysuits and I only had to beg twice.
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>>6574085
But I begged more than twice and he didn't give me a schoolgirl outfit :(

Also, It's hella annoying that bodysuits don't give any benefit to obedience.
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>>6574083
It represents despair at the prospect of poorly conveyed (unrelated) despair.

The above sentence was an attempt to explain true art.

As is the sentence above this one.

I'm so alone inside me ;(
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>Try out "FC Dev's preferred settings" on the Assistant
>Cosmetic options are set to blue eyes and blonde hair

You're a dirty vanilla bastard FC Dev.
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>>6574086
they're one of the slutty outfits, I think. Older girls in particular like wearing them.
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>>6574100
They used to be but now 'choose your own outfit' just chooses one of the other outfits at random, I think.
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>>6574100
Does choosing her own clothes work for you in the latest version of FC?

I'm asking because I think it's broken but apparently no one else is making a fuss about it.
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>>6574103
I switched to bangles when the change went through because it rubs my piercing fetish just the right way... but I still want my bodyguard to look like Hit-Girl. FC Dev pls
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I wish I could draw.

Would make adding gags to these faces so much easier.
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CoC-style FC slave visualizer when?
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>>6574103
Not in this version, they all default to naked. That's probably why i didn't notice schoolgirl/nurse vanishing.

So now my prestigious slaves get elegant dresses, and their own companion slaves wearing bangles. They inevitably fall in love, and then you get to fuck a slave with her slave.
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>>6574111
It's slaves all the way down.
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>>6574075
>>>/aco/
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>>6574110
Never, because it's a shitty idea that involves way too much effort.
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>>6573292
>>6573301

I would rather he include it with some heavy limitations, making it very difficult to access without a lot of work, effectively limiting it those with extreme dedication, or using cheatmode. Like an event where someone offers a slave child.

If you refuse, you get a good event, like money or something.

If you accept, you get your first child slave, but word gets out around the Free Cities. Your renown plummets every week, and your slaves start to lose devotion and obedience. After a few weeks, you get attacked by other arcologies. If you're not well equipped, game over. If you have a good defense, you survive the attacks, but you have to repair your city weekly, causing you to lose a lot of money. If you manage to hold off long enough, they stop due to the futility of their efforts.

The end result is you can never buy slaves regularly again. You can only get slaves through the recruiter or child slaves through the event.
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>>6574137
heightrs gonna height

>>6574138
The guy said he doesn't want loli in his game. I was just trying to come up with an in-universe explanation.
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>>6574138
Adding slaves with ages numerically below 18 would (mostly) just be a matter of refactoring. Thing is the author doesn't enjoy writing loli scenes, and without writing there's really no functional difference beyond that the younger you go the more ridiculous the body shapes are.
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>>6574108
I still think the latex bodysuit ('restrictive latex') is the way to go with bodyguards. That, the latex thigh boots, tongue/nipple/(smart)clit piercings and a row of studs along the labia.

Also the starter slave Reine is pretty much the perfect BG. Very Tall, starts with combat experience, natively Submissive, you just have to get her some muscles.

re: 'choose your own slutty outfit', I kind of miss the old functionality where it was an outfit itself, any time I wanted an outfit now on the list (like, say, a schoolgirl one) I'd just choose that and write in a custom description for it.
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>>6574143
I know FC dev said he doesn't want lolis in his game. He also said >>6572683.

I really think he should be realistic and realize he won't get his wish, no matter how much he asks.

I guarantee you within a few months of 1.0 dropping, someone will release a modded FC with lolis. He will have no control over anyone's free will. If he wants to limit the modding done to it, he could at least try to mitigate it by gating it behind difficult content.

>>6574157
I mean really there's no need to make compeletely seperate scenes for lolis. I can't speak for other anons, but I would be completely satisfied with literally a number change for the age range. It's not like there's any difference in the scenes for a slave in their 40s and one in their 20s.

Also, I don't get what you mean by
>there's really no functional difference beyond that the younger you go the more ridiculous the body shapes are.
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>>6574163
Lolis don't have the same size or proportions as adult women because they are not adult women.

I know that for pedos, lolis not being adults may be a hard concept to grasp, but it is in fact true.
Thus, they ha
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>>6574163
If he can't control modding, how could he possibly control the in-game difficulty of obtaining modded-in content?
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>>6574165
>I know that for pedos, lolis not being adults may be a hard concept to grasp
...really, dude?
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>>6574163
FC Author can't realistically prevent anyone from modding in whatever, but he can say "I don't like this and I won't put it in myself".

He's been clear that he has no intention of adding underage stuff, so people should just plan to mod it in if they want it, rather than asking repeatedly for him to do it.
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FC should be updating in just a few minutes unless the update was postponed.

f5ing the site like a madman
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>>6574163
>I really think he should be realistic and realize he won't get his wish, no matter how much he asks.

You know, FCdev might not get his wish, but that doesn't obstruct as from disliking whoever might be a dick and refuse conforming to his request.

I mean it's like saying we can't stop murders from happening. Which is true, we can't, but that doesn't mean we have to just accept it and like murderers, either. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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>>6574174
How do you know the exact time-frame it's going to update? A day has 24 hours.
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>>6574176
FC almost always updates between 6:30 and 7:00 his time.

I think that's still an hour away though, unless the american daylight savings fucked up my time conversions.
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How can I force/encourage a rivalry? I want two slaves to loathe each other.
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>>6574175
I don't think loli content is really comparable to murder.
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>>6574181
No. If he's on the east coast it's 2 minutes past 7. If he's on pacific time it's one and a half hour more.
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>>6574163
>I really don't like thing and would appreciate it if people didn't do thing right in my face
>If you don't do thing I'll do thing right in your face, so you should really do thing
ok
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>>6574186
comparing =/= equating

The comparison is valid.
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>>6574183
Other than making sure they're working together (both in brothel, or both being servants, whatever) I don't think there's a way to 'force' it.

You could f5 the end-of-week summary and hope, I guess?
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>>6574187
Wait, no, two and a half hours.
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>>6574183
Low devotion non submissive subordinate sex slave duty between the two seemed to work for me. Haven't tested it extensively, though.
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>>6574186
I'm not comparing loli content to murder. I'm comparing being a dick to FCdev to murder, the commonality being that they are both reprehensible things that we can't stop but can marginalise the perpetrators thereof.
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>>6574165
>Lolis don't have the same size or proportions as adult women because they are not adult women.
No one's arguing that. But it's a video game. There are artists who draw lolis with big boobs and asses, no one's calling it out for being unrealistic or anything, they just enjoy it.

>I know that for pedos, lolis not being adults may be a hard concept to grasp, but it is in fact true.
No one's saying lolis are adults. I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at besides it's unrealistic. You've got slaves who can inject themselves to enhance their T&A to unrealistic proportions.

>>6574166
I'm talking about controlling the content. Like if FC Dev added lolis and just gated it behind difficult content. Not modded lolis.
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>>6574194
oppai loli aren't real loli you silly goose
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>>6574194
>Like if FC Dev added lolis
So the solution for FC Dev not wanting loli in his game is for him to put loli in his game?

Are you intentionally being this stupid, or did your owner pay up the 300¤ to take away your ability to stop and think about what you're typing?
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So, anyway. I wonder what the 'interesting upgrades' to the facilities that FCA hinted at are going to be.
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>>6574194
>I'm talking about controlling the content.
What content? The content that won't exist in the base game (and therefore won't need to be controlled) unless he adds it?

also, see >>6574188
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FCA is on record stating he's not adding loli, and people bitching at him to add stuff he's not interested in is actually a disincentive for him to work on the game.

Can we just accept he's not going to add it and move on now?
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>>6574171
>>6574175
>>6574188

I understand. He also said he wants to add content beyond 1.0, but only if people don't mod in things he doesn't want(like lolis). He can't have it both ways. There are two ways this will go. He can add it himself, and then be satisfied that no one is gonna ruin his work.

Or he can not include loli, then bitch a fit when people add loli. I'm not saying he has to, but I am saying that he can't have his cake and eat it too. Loli will happen regardless, but why not control how it happens?

>>6574201
>>6574199
OK, I guess no one will win then. Here's what will happen. FC Dev will drop 1.0, loli gets added within the next few months, he gets mad that people didn't respect his wishes, then doesn't add more scenes. No one wins, everyone loses.
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>>6574200
A special room in the brothel designed for crazy fetish sex.

A cute bow-tie for the concierge.

An apology note for how poorly thought out the milk nerf was.

A skull that screams whenever one of the servants forgets to do something. It has never not screamed.

A set of prostate-tickling toys for all of your little sperm-cows.
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>>6574203
>and then be satisfied that no one is gonna ruin his work.
Except himself.
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FC 1.0 will probably be too bloated to add anything anyway, that will be his answer to lolifags
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Why are lolifags always so obnoxious?
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>>6574203
Or, he can add what he wants, and people can NOT mod in loli stuff.

Is it really worth pissing the guy off enough to get him to stop work on the game just to get one particular fetish in?
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>>6574203
You know, if you stopped whining, making a game like the one FCdev made is pretty much piss easy. All you have to do is learn how to set variable values through conditional statements, then check them for expressions.

Basically you need to learn some rudimentary coding to make the loli game of your dreams.
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>>6574204
>A skull that screams whenever one of the servants forgets to do something. It has never not screamed.

I want this.
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>>6574207
Pretty sure it's the anti-lolifags being obnoxious here.
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Is there any benefit whatsoever to cockmilking a slave?

If I'm not wrong it makes less than the slave's maintenance is worth.

What should I do to increase my milking income? Give them steroids or penis increasers or what?
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>>6574210
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>>6574211
I mean, I'm not an anti-loli fag. I'm an anti-being-a-dick-to-cool-devs-that-get-shit-done fag
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>>6574208
>people can NOT mod in loli stuff
Good luck with that. You realize that that's going to be impossible, because people are gonna do what they want.

>>6574209
I'll be satisfied with or without loli. I'll just enjoy it a lot more with loli. I would very much love to make a game for you fags, but I have no time to spare making a game, because I have school and a job to deal with. I have enough on my plate, I don't need game development on the side.
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>>6574211
Pretty sure it's the loli wanters projecting, actually.

>>6574213
FCA outright said it's not supposed to be economically viable, just a decadent indulgence for oligarchs with money to burn.

I like to think of it as not a commercial product, but all the jizz I get from my shemales gets used for the slaves that are on cum-based diets.
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>>6574213
I think FCdev said that it was mainly a fetish thing because he couldn't think of an in-universe reason why it would be profitable.

I heard he's planning to add some special events tied to it though.
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>>6574207
>>6574211
People disagree on something and then call the other side dicks, this, in turn, makes people act like dicks.

It's like pottery.
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>>6574217
Yeah they'll do whatever they want. Just as long as they don't try to wiggle out of the consequences of their actions (FCA bitching and/or stopping development).

They know going in they'd be doing it against his wishes.
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>>6574219
FCdev sucks at economics. If people want cum for their cum-based diets, the marginal labor constraints on cum milking would actually make it more expensive.
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Please Send Help
I sat down to fap and found myself trying to debug events for HentHighSchool
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>>6574219
It could be profitable if cowmilk and cockmilk were treated as luxury.

It would make a lot more sense to see it as the ultimate decadent product of a dying world instead of a source of nutrients
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>>6574223
IIRC the main hurdle to getting it added was that there's no real USE for cum, economically. You get it in small volumes, there's basically no nutritional value to it, any weird fetishy beauty treatment stuff you might try with it would be outperformed by far by actual cosmetics, etc etc etc.

It pays shit because it's not supposed to be something you can actually make money from - it's only in the game because so many people asked for it, and that's the compromise he decided on.
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>>6574223
How common are such diets, though? Commoners might drink breastmilk regularly, but I doubt all that many people 1. have a lot of slaves, 2. feed them large amounts of cum, and 3. don't have their own cum supply slaves.
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>>6574204
>An apology note for how poorly thought out the milk nerf was.
>A skull that screams whenever one of the servants forgets to do something. It has never not screamed.
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>>6574223
>>6574227
I assumed cockmilk diets were low-quality chinese imports from hormone-laden bulls. And by bulls I mean bulls.

... How about an event to promote the sale of luxury artisinal 100% pure organic cockmilk only from free roaming <nation>-grown bulls?

And by bulls I mean humans.
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I just wish I could figure out how to keep my bulls having maxed-out block and tackle without having to put them on male hormones (or injections if they're not in the facility).

I want gigantic balls AND pretty faces, damnit.
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>>6574232

FCDev did say that enabling cock-milking in your own arcology and similar things would open up future "highly decadent" events
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>>6574222
Oh, they know. Again, no one wins, everyone loses.

If loli gets modded in, FCdev stops development, community is left with self-made content only.

If loli doesn't get modded in, FCdev continues development, but community suffers from less activity, resulting in fewer good mods.

Eventually, someone will mod loli in. Even if it's not within the first few months of v1.0, it will be within the year. Again, FCdev can choose to be realistic, or he can plug his ears in ignorance with this knowledge.
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>>6574238
I doubt the lack of loli mods will eviscerate the modding community.
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>>6574228
>>6574229
Cum-based diets people. They don't need to be common. If arcology owners want it and only arcology owners want it, what you get is a positional good. The profit-margin of cockmilking operations would shoot for the sky because the equilibrium price of the cum would be very high because of the marginal labor constraints in producing it but it would still be bought by arcology owners that have nothing better to do with their cash, hence reproducing the relations of its production.
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>>6574238
You are not the community.
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>>6574238
>If loli gets modded in, FCdev gives no shits because his insane code will ruin the mod by next patch anyways, community gives no shits about the mod other than the two lolicons who are trying to act like their fetish for children will sound the death knell of the game unless FC bows to their demands

ftfy
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>>6574238
So we shouldn't be angry with FCA, we should instead be angry with the people that want loli crap so badly they'd kill development on a game.

Or, you know, they could have a nice, continuously-developed game without loli content, and just go play whatever other loli-focused games for that fix.
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>>6574238
>but community suffers from less activity, resulting in fewer good mods.

Bullshit argument, you have nothing on that.

I kind of wanted to stay out of this because it's a dumb argument with one guy trying to say how his fetish is inevitable, but I can't hold it in anymore. All you have is bullshit supposition. The only way you can know for a fact is if you're planning on doing it yourself, in which case you are the problem.

FCDev has never been a dick to us, we can not be a dick to him. Fuck.

Can we all stop engaging in this now?
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>>6574246
>but I can't hold it in anymore.

My arguments are uttered on their own!
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>>6574240
You're assuming that a single cum-fetishist arcology owner will net you anywhere near the amount of money that a large population of breastmilk-drinking or whore-fucking commoners will.

Cum sales do still make you money. Just not as much as other things you could be doing.
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>>6574240
If an oligarch wants to feed his slaves cum, what's stopping him from milking his shemales to do it? Statistically, ~50% of slaves are gonna start with balls.

And since oligarchs are the only people with enough slaves to need a bunch of cum for this (pretty sure one of the encyclopedia entries says that the majority of slave owners have like, 2-3 slaves and only big arcology owners have huge amounts), but they can get their own, then who are you selling it to?
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>>6574232
>chinese imports
That why I'm not really fond of cheap international slave.
If the world is ending, I would assume that global trading is massively reduced and the prices have skyrocketed, for absolutely everything but human life.
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>>6574248

Is there like a sexy version of the bait image? That would be appropriate at this point.
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>>6574253
Will this do?
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>>6574252
I just turn nationalities off.

It's a brave new world, I don't give a fuck if you're French or Russian or Polish, I just need more pretty white girls to make me money.

I tried using the continental slave trade option, but some of the choices felt weird. I mean, I get why FCDev put Haiti and Cuba under North America, but if trade is as bad as the game makes it sound I would expect it to be only actual continental slaves.

But if you turn off nationalities then fuck it, I rename almost every slave, they can be from wherever I say they're from.

Because I am the oligarch and I oligarch hard.
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>>6574239
>>6574241
I'm not the community, but there will be less people engaged in it. I've already said I'll enjoy it with or without.

>>6574243
>two lolicons
I'm sure there are more than two. I'm not saying there's a massive amount, but there's definitely a likelihood that there are a fair amount of people who will not play it.

>>6574245
I'm just stating the facts, man. It's like you people don't want to hear this.

>>6574246
>FCDev has never been a dick to us
But he's holding post 1.0 content hostage just because he wants people not modding loli in, instead of being realistic about the situation.

I'm not going to do it, but I am going to speak the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Mods will happen, someone will inevitably mod in lolis, whether it's me or some other faggot.

It's like Team Ninja with DOA5LR on PC. They asked people not to make nude mods. After release, what happened? Nude mods.
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>>6574263

>But he's holding post 1.0 content hostage just because he wants people not modding loli in, instead of being realistic about the situation.

He's not holding it hostage. He's just saying FC is at it's heart author appeal. If people fuck with his author appeal, it's going to impact his desire to work the game.
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What is it with loli that gets people so riled up?
I understand that much of the complaint right now has to do with the possibility of turning the author off from his own game, but it feels like there's an undercurrent of something against loli itself as a fetish.
Why so?
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>>6574269
It's just moralfags projecting. Ignore them.
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>>6574269

I'm neutral on loli, I'm just not enthused with this guy running around shouting about how loli is inevitable so either FCDev is going to bitch out or he can "suck it up" and just put in loli.
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>>6574269
In a lot of places lusting after underage kids isn't okay.

I feel bad that I had to actually explain that.
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>>6574269
Because planning to kill off development for a game to satisfy a fetish that is technically against /d/ rules isn't exactly a plan that will get people on your side of an argument?
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>>6574272
Don't patronise me. I know that.
In a lot of places rape and chattel slavery aren't okay, either, but I don't see nearly as much complaint.

>>6574276
I'm not the one(s) arguing for loli; just commenting on what I see.
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>>6574269
Because people dislike things that seem abnormal. It's like people with futa. There are people who like it, people who don't, and people who don't care.

>>6574272
>implying they're lusting after 3D kids
Project more, please.
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>>6574277
>I know that.
Then why did you ask?
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>>6574279
Because I see a double standard.
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>>6574279
Because he's asking why people have to be so uptight about literally fake drawings of imaginary children, when people aren't so uptight about your fetishes of slavery and dickgirls.
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>>6574279
At this point I'm putting him alongside the punctuation fetishist as a shit-tier troll.Gating off content, indeed.
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>>6574277
>>6574284
People have a soft spot for kids. Really don't like seeing them get hurt/raped. Simple as that.

>>6574278
>implying it matters
It's still people jacking it to kids getting raped.


Jack off to drawing all you want, but don't go full tumblr "muh kink-shaming" when people inevitably think that it's fucked up.
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>>6574281
>>6574284
And it never occurred to you that different people have different opinions about different things?
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>>6574284
People would be just as against loli slavery and loli dickgirls.

Bottom line, FCA isn't interested in it, it's not going into the game, deal with it (although hopefully not by modding it in).

I'm sure there's lots of loli sex games out there for people into that. Not every game has to cater to everyone.
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>>6574284
>He literally can't understand why children getting fucked is worse than girls with cocks getting fucked.
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>>6574288
It has; I just figured that this would be one of the few places where people could leave alone things they don't like.
Though I guess everyone gets irritated at some point.
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>>6574294
>leave alone things they don't like.
You're the one trying to force loli into FC. Have you considered leaving that alone?
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>>6574294
It's probably less the loli and more of the attitude "my fetish will be in fc, deal with it". See subs, furries etc
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>>6574292
>>6574286

It's literally fake and imaginary. Like more fake than WWE-fake. Yet people get mad because it's little kids. I think futa is an indication of gay or bisexual tendencies, but you don't see me hating your fetishes.

You might go out and fuck a Thai ladyboy one day, but I won't diddle a little kid.
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>>6574297
As I said, I'm not one of them. I just think making an attack on the fetish itself inflames them more than keeping the conversation on the fact that, in the end, it rests on author fiat.
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>>6574298
Yeah, MC is my big thing but I'm not telling FCA his game will include my kink or I'll force it in anyway.

FCA is making the game he wants to make, and that game doesn't include loli (or MC). People should respect that.
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>>6574299
>It's literally fake and imaginary.
Yes. You are sitting down and jacking off while you imagine children getting raped.

I'm not even all that anti-loli in general, I just think it's absolutely absurd that so many people fail to realize why most people are disgusted by it.

>I think futa is an indication of gay or bisexual tendencies, but you don't see me hating your fetishes.
>>>/pol/
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>>6574302
>raped
I'm talking about imaginary children having sex, not rape. Rape means there is no consent. The fact that you use that word to describe loli shows me you're quite anti-loli. Take off those rose tinted glasses for a second and let's talk about rape.

You're sitting here fapping to FC, where there is literal slavery, not to mention LITERAL rape. You can drug them. You can amputate their limbs. You can chemically lobotomize someone. You are literally a slave master who can abuse a person to no end.

Yet you consider loli to be less acceptable when not all loli depicts outright rape, but this game does and you consider it to be OK.
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>>6574310
Uh, children can't give consent. That's a huge part of why loli gets kickback.
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You know he's definitely just reading through this shit rather than posting the next update.

I'm sick to fucking death of seeing this argument in all it's forms again and again.
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>>6574310
Children, both real and imaginary, cannot consent.
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>>6574311
Nobody in FC gives consent.
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>>6574313
I wish FCA would post the update so we can bitch about milk income instead.
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>>6574315
There are several events that ask the Arcology owner if they consent to sex with a slave who is requesting it.

The game respects your decision.
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>>6574311
>>6574314
Real children cannot legally give consent when the prospective partner is older by a certain threshold.
This has absolutely no bearing on fictional children in erotic works. Claiming that a fictional, a fictional, a *fictional* character cannot give consent is absurd.
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>>6574322
Dogs can't consent either; can fictional dogs give consent?

This is getting ridiculous.
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>>6574324
Uh, yes. A fictional dog can give consent. A fictional doghouse can give consent. A fictional gazebo can give consent.

This is rather ridiculous, but where do you think you are?
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FCA deliver us from this idiocy with a new build.
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>>6574322
From the game.

>It is not legal to own children, but it is legal to charge an orphan for the costs of raising her when she reaches 18, and those debts are always high enough to enslave her. My 18th birthday was yesterday, so I am a slave and for sale now.

We can clearly see that owning lolis is illegal, and slaves cannot legally be owned until they reach 18.

Thus, the age of majority (and thus consent) is 18 in FC Arcologies.

As a result, lolis, being younger than 18, cannot give consent in FC.

Bam. Fictional character who cannot consent to sexual acts.
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>>6574314
>>6574311
>children can't give consent
Children can certainly consent. By a certain age, they have the very capability and understand the implications of the word 'No'.

Can they legally consent? No, the law prohibits children from giving consent to a sexual act especially when the partner is older.

Slaves who are resistant or rebelliousl in FC do not consent, nor do they have the option to give consent at all. You can rape them as you please.

>>6574319
There are also events and non-event options where you can rape a slave. See above for example.

>>6574334
You are talking about age of consent but we're talking about the actual act of consent.
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>>6574334
I'm not saying every fictional child ever is capable of giving consent. I'm saying that
>Children, both real and imaginary, cannot consent.
as a blanket assertion is overgeneralizing and untrue.
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Why can the mods not be faggots in this particular instance and ban the lolicons?
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>>6574336
The brain isn't even fully mature until the mid-20s.

Children can't consent because their brains literally aren't fully grown and working yet.
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>>6574338
Western-styled art is a much more pervasive issue, don't you think?
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>>6574340

So then why is the age of consent 18? Shouldn't we raise the age of consent to 25? Since 18 year olds don't have a fully grown and matured brain and all.
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>>6574342
>Shouldn't we raise the age of consent to 25?
Totally agreed, but I didn't set it.
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>>6574342
I am more than fine with only Christmas Cake and above women being fuckable.
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>>6574342
What the hell happened to the thread? Why is consent even being brought up? I play FC precisely because slavery is about as non-consentual as you can get.
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>>6574344
What if instead of a set age, you have to take a test to determine when you're allowed to fuck?
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>>6574348

> Why is consent even being brought up?

People began arguing that loli was okay because a 12-year-old could consent to sex.
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>>6574348
Pedos are trying to justify fantasizing about children and claiming that lolis need to be added to a game where the dev has specifically stated there will be no loli.

Consent just branched off from their idiocy
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stop replying you fucking morons
shut like this is why our threads get deleted
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>>6574352
>>6574353
Oh, that's silly.
Loli is okay because it's fictional. That's the only reason anyone should ever need.
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>>6574354
Deliver us from (our) evil, FCA!
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>>6574310
>LITERAL rape.
Sort of like loli, then?

>You can drug them. You can amputate their limbs. You can chemically lobotomize someone. You are literally a slave master who can abuse a person to no end.
And 99.9% of the public would no doubt be disgusted by my choice in fap material.

And I wouldn't for a second think that there was anything wrong with their reaction.

>but this game does and you consider it to be OK.
At no point have I said that I think that fictional bad things should be illegal to write about or draw.

Some people, even people with fucked up fetishes like me, have things that we just can't stand.
Scat disgusts me, so I just stay away from it.
Bestiality, on the other hand, actually pisses me off and puts me in a bad mood because of some of the things I've seen in real life.

If I created a game, even if it was a game about sacrificing orphans to Satan, I wouldn't want any bestiality in it. That doesn't mean that I want to ban drawings of bestiality from the internet. I just don't want something I've created to be used to spread something I can't stand.


I have no idea why FCdev doesn't want loli in his game. Could be potential legal issues. Could be simple personal preference. Regardless of why he doesn't want it, I think his wishes should be respected.

>>6574322
A fictional character who gets killed is still a fictional character who gets killed. It doesn't stop being (fictional) murder just because it's fictional.

"If you fictionally cut me, do I not fictionally bleed?"
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>>6574340
>>6574344
On that note, since the age of majority is 18, but apparently you don't have a fully working brain until you're in your mid 20s, why is someone at 18 considered an adult? Let's bring it all up. Voting age, drinking age, whatever.

>>6574348
Because people are talking about how loli is wrong because they can't give legal consent.

>>6574352
>People began arguing that loli was wrong because they can't give legal consent.
ftfy

>>6574353
How about you justifying your fantasy of slavery and rape? Oh I forget, rape fantasies aren't real. Hold on, loli fantasies aren't real either.
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>>6574356
They break the law and then we get to put them in camps. It's a win/win!
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>>6574350
"On question 6b, you said that you are not a feminist. Unfortunately, any decent person who understands consent would happily consider himself a feminist. No sex for you."
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>>6574358
>And 99.9% of the public would no doubt be disgusted by my choice in fap material.

Yet you faggots seem to be disgusted by loli. The irony of being on /d/ and you faggots being disgusted by a fetish other than their own.
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>>6574358
>A fictional character who gets killed is still a fictional character who gets killed. It doesn't stop being (fictional) murder just because it's fictional.
Yeah, fictional murder is a bad thing in-story because someone was killed unjustifiably, but it's still okay in real life because, y'know, nobody actually died.
I mean, snuff is also a fetish.
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Wow, this thread really went into the shitter with the addition of the race stuff (as if loli arguments weren't bad enough).

If I was FCA I might be pissed enough to not update tonight just to spite all of us.
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>>6574359
Because 18 tends to be the age when you can sign up for the military and

1. The military won't increase that because they want to recruit kids right out of highschool before their brains can comprehend that they're signing up to potentially be shot at

2. There's a bit of a public outcry if you take away adult rights from someone old enough to be signing up to potentially be shot at.
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>>6574367
I'm just gonna stop anyone about to reply to this right here and say that that discussion belongs elsewhere.
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>>6574363
Yes, but the guy said
>I'm talking about imaginary children having sex, not rape. Rape means there is no consent. The fact that you use that word to describe loli shows me you're quite anti-loli.
Fictional murder is still fictional murder.
Fictional rape is still fictional rape.
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>>6574364
I blame the comma apologists
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>>6574372
What's wrong with commas, my friend, do they make you uncomfortable, or some such?
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>>6574364
>If I was FCA I might be pissed enough to not update tonight just to spite all of us.

Hi FC Dev, I hope you don't update tonight so that these anti-loli fags don't get their wish.

Also I find it funny that you're adamantly against loli but you can literally custom order a slave that's effectively no different from a loli in appearance/description besides the age, because you can just order a petite flat-chested and flat-assed 18 year old virgin slave girl. Guess you should remove those options.
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>>6574372
I don't think she's consenting there.

That looks faintly non-consensual.
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>>6574374
You do realize that FCA isn't australian right?

He does understand that some adult women had a very unfortunate puberty.
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>>6574374
But she would be 18 anon :^)
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>>6574374
>>6574378

Also, if they're "effectively no different" then why do you need explicit loli, just custom-order a bunch of petite flat-chested 18-year-olds and stop whining.
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>410 posts of arguing about semicolons and if lolis can give legal consent.

Just kill me now.
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>>6574375
Consent was implied
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>>6574370
It's fairly disingenuous to bring up statutory rape. People play FPS because it's a match of skill against skill, not because they support killing dirt farmers for Israel. Similarly, people like loli because of the appealing body type and personality, not because they enjoy ruining lives.
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>>6574387
Sorry, your body is too useful.

I can chop off your limbs, pump you full of hormones, scramble your brain matter, and hang you on a rack to be milked if you want though.

/eviloligarch
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>>6574381
>>6574383
>>6574378

And lo and behold, we've come full circle. When 1.0 drops, any old faggot who gets into modding will just lower the minimum age range from 18.

You're right, FC Dev doesn't need to do it himself, some other faggot will do it for him.
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>>6574389
Did SJWs ruin the word "disingenuous" for anyone else, or just me?

>>6574389
>I don't play "Assassin Quest" to slit throats and kill kids, I do it because I really like the execution animations and gameplay.
That may well be true, but you are still killing people.

I never said that all loli fans are sadists who enjoy hurting kids. Just that they are jerking it to porn where people have sex with nonconsenting children.
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I just now realized that slaves die when they hit -10 hp.

Just like D&D characters.
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>>6574398
Can we drown them?
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Starting to look like no update tonight. It's 8:30 central, blah.
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>>6574400
It's all the semicolon's fault.
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>>6574403
nice apostrophes faggot. i bet youre not even a french nationalist.
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>>6574405
Of course.

I am a French Ultranationalist
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no update makes me sad, despite alcohol, /tg/ storytime and fat paycheck. Can we have some kind of pasta created about what subjects have been argued to death and can therefore be avoided?
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>>6574396
>Did SJWs ruin the word "disingenuous" for anyone else, or just me?
No, but "trigger", "toxic", and "problematic" all make my bile rise. Incidentally the Twine main page has blurbs from Carolyn Petit and Anna Anthropy (if you don't know who they are, I recommend keeping it that way), which makes the fact that it's the platform for Free Cities deliciously ironic.
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This lolifag is what makes people hate loli; people like him are just as bad as furries. I am a lolifag too and would love it if it got added, but I would much rather FC Dev continue to work on this game and make it better, especially since loli content wouldn't even add anything in this instance. There's other games if I want my loli fix.
Also, why is that one anon calling FC Dev FCA? Where does the A even come from?
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>>6574396
>Did SJWs ruin the word "disingenuous" for anyone else, or just me?
It was Mass Effect that ruined it for me.

Occasionally hearing retarded kiddies yelling "Disingenuous assertions!" at the top of their lungs for about 3 months while working tends to make you dislike the word.
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>>6574434
He goes by "FC Author" on the blog.
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>>6574433
>Carolyn Petit and Anna Anthropy
My god, those two cancerous wastes of good oxygen are still making their horrid shit?
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HAPPENING
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>>6574445
Not sure. Kind of doubt it. They're just bad pennies.
>almost typed bad penises by accident
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>>6574455
you lie
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>>6574458
orly?

>Furthermore, intelligence reduces the interchangeability of slaves. Education can only improve intelligence one step, and it's currently a five-state stat, so the ideal slaves for leadership positions must start at at least above-average intelligence.
Neat.
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It's here
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>>6574433
>Carolyn Petit
Isn't that the woman who said that Linkle was a bad character solely because she wasn't named Link?
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>Anon's correction of 9mm Parabellum (a compact, effective and inexpensive pistol cartridge) to .45 ACP (a chubby, slow, and overrated relic) in one scene was not made, because Anon is wrong.
how can one man be so based
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>Construct a sex arcade to confine slaves in
lolwut
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First bug found. Slaves put it the arcade can't be taken out.
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>>6574465
What seems to be the anomaly, good sir?
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>>6574465
arcade as in something like pic related
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>>6574465
Do you not know what that word means?
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>>6574475
>>6574476
>>6574484
Still have no idea what it actually is.
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>>6574489
Do you really need this much spoonfeeding?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcade_(architecture)
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>>6574489
To sum it up basically an outdoor area designated for the public to use as they please typically in the form of selling items.
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Now watch as FC Dev stops posting on /d/ because of the obnoxious lolifag from earlier.
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>Anon's correction of 9mm Parabellum (a compact, effective and inexpensive pistol cartridge) to .45 ACP (a chubby, slow, and overrated relic) in one scene was not made, because Anon is wrong.

I still can't stop laughing.

This is even better than finding out that West point banned pillowfights
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>>6574494
>>6574499
So it's exactly like the brothel/gloryholes, but outdoors?
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>>6574500
Well, mods are gods, so it looks like most people who participated in the argument got a 15 minute block for review on the charge of "/b/ Garbage" (which includes loli) so there's a good chance that lolifag is gone now.
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>>6574499
Not always outdoors.

>>6574504
Kinda like. There's girls there that you can have sex with, so in that regard it's the same.
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>>6574505
>lolifag is gone
someone that dedicated to shitposting will ban evade the second FCA turns up again to try and threaten him into allowing it
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>>6574504
>New facility, the arcade, associated with the glory hole assignment. Includes a powerful upgrade that greatly increases income at the cost of rapidly ruining slaves.
It is to the gloryhole job what the brothel is to the whore job.
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Fresh bread for y'all nerds.

>>6574510
>>6574510
>>6574510