/dgg/ - /d/ Games General

>>6574505
>>6574508
>implying
Wasn't banned, so I'm not evading any ban. But please, continue to hate on loli. I'll laugh at the hypocrisy.

>>6574514
How's that fedora you're wearing?

>FCdev added a gloryhole building

He really is the son of oldhuntsman!

PRAISE

Can you all stop taking cheap shots at each - other and shut up?

>>6574544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pqKiOZdI40

>>6574545
also this, please.

>>6574544
Wallbutts for all!

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>>6574548
Huzzah!

>Anon's correction of 9mm Parabellum (a compact, effective and inexpensive pistol cartridge) to .45 ACP (a chubby, slow, and overrated relic) in one scene was not made, because Anon is wrong.

Still funny.

I'll admit though, the 9mm surprised me too. It's not surprising that people might still be using that cartridge 20 years from now, because they will. But given all the power suits and security droids running around, you'd expect a bodyguard might have something a little more...futuristic.

>new fc release

the dick chafing is real

>>6574545
In every thread on every topic we hope for this, and in every thread on every topic we are disappointed. But thank you for trying.

Is there a difference between difficulties in FC beyond starting slaves/cash?

>>6574616
I was thinking about "starting options" and completely forgot that there was a separate difficulty setting. Never mind.

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> Alina is very tall and a healthy weight.
> Before she was a slave, she was a soldier.

This new release seems to have upped the difficulty to the point where I'm going bankrupt incredibly easily

>>6574642
You could always cheat. It's really easy to changed how much money you make in this game.

>She doesn't get a hardon as you use her, but she comes from the prostate stimulation when her beloved Master uses her butt.
Aww. I almost regret gelding her for not being highly intelligent.

Almost.

Whoring doesn't seem quite as profitable in this latest version of FreeCities as it was in the last. Is gloryhole more cost effective with the new release?

>>6574650
Using Cheat Engine or something?

>>6574676
Editing the .html file. Twine games are inherently open source so just change how much money a job gives you.

>fc dev really has forsaken us
FC Dev come back! We promise we won't respond to the lolifag in the future!

>new FC

Anyone tried the intubation setting on the Dairy?
I am curious, but I don't want to force feed the little cows.

>>6574738
Why? It's not like they're people.

>little
doin it wrong

>>6574729
Plot twist: FCDev was shitposting without a trip in the past thread and got b& and this is why he didn't post an update

>>6574748

Probably should mention "Hey FCdev, it's a bug!".

So am I retarded or can I not rename slaves anymore?

>>6574752
you can, from customize her description. First field.

>>6574752

Have to go into customize their description

>>6574748
Newfag here.
What is this game?

>>6574756
By newfag you mean "I just came here in this thread right now", right?

Free Cities.

>>6574756

See, this is why the FREECITIES DOT BLOGSPOT DOT COM dev always has to put that into every update post, because someone always asks.

>>6574753
Ah, okay. Thanks.

>>6574758
>>6574759
Exactly.

>mfw you can't give preventatives to your arcade inmates to make sure they stay fit for duty indefinitely

ONE JOB FCDEV

Choosing her own clothes is still bugged. What the hell. Is it really such a difficult bug to eradicate?

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Minor proofreading error in a nickname event, FCdev.

Man all that arguing in the last thread makes me reconsider what I've done thus far. If people are going to be that upset about content, it is disheartening.

I've been working on a text-based high-fantasy MUD with MMO elements where a good deal close to everything requires sexual activity:

Harvesting resources? Sexual encounter.
Crafting items? Sexual encounter.
Fighting? JK, sexual encounter. Societal structure is closer to that of bonobo than chimps.
Skilling up? Ok, ok -- simply requires time to level up a skill, even when you aren't playing (see: EvE Online).

Planned features include procedurally generated NPCs for characters to interact as they please, world events to participate in, clothing/modesty system, hunger/thirst system, public API for other people to make clients, etc.

Currently the core engine "simulates" 11 body part types, open to more, which leads to all sorts of possible new/crazy content I haven't really seen "traditionally" (eg in my 5+ years lurking /d/). Unfortunately, still working in infrastructure-land.

Part of me wishes I hadn't gone the multiplayer route -- development gets much more complicated -- and instead done something like interactive fiction in Inform7.

>Went into this hoping for a quick wank
>Ended up spending hours trying to accumulate obscene amounts of wealth so I can enslave that rival arcology owner.

>>6574792
But MUDs are so much more fun than single player games

>>6574802
The player-to-player interactions can be a blessing and a curse. Awesome players will bring the blessings and jerks will make my (and others') life hell. Part of me wants to make it a free-trial/subscription model to incentivize people to stick around and not troll/be jerks, and keep the in-game community smaller and higher impact to really maximize P2P interaction.

>>6574792
>If people are going to be that upset about content, it is disheartening.
If you can't deal with people wanting you to add things to your game -- either by doing everything they want, or by ignoring them -- then you should quit now.

>MUD with MMO elements
>doom clone with first-person elements

>everything requires sexual activity
Are players going to have to do this with other players? Are you targeting the ho-mo-sex-u-al market?

Multiplayer is hard to get started. The first person to buy a phone can't call anybody.

>>6574813
You want to charge money? ... good luck

>>6574813
If you want to do a subscription thing, you better be the best MUD around. Online text based games don't exactly have massive player-bases, even less for sex based ones.

>>6574818
>If you can't deal with people wanting you to add things to your game -- either by doing everything they want, or by ignoring them -- then you should quit now.

For the guy doing an MMO, it might be easier for him because all he has to do is ignore it and no one can really mod his game. The people who wanted something added will just leave eventually once they realize they're not getting it. But the guy would potentially lose a part of his player base if he did that.

On the other hand, with a single player game, he can choose to ignore it, but he has to be realistic about whether people will add in stuff he doesn't want. Once it's released, it's really out of his hands. There will be content he never wanted in the game, whether he likes it or not.

>>6574798
Hopefully you have 2-3 prestigious slaves by now.

Sell them to get the rival.

>>6574818
> Are players going to have to do this with other players?
Have to? No. Possible to? Yes.

> Are you targeting the ho-mo-sex-u-al market?
I'm not targeting anything at the moment.

> You want to charge money? ... good luck
>>6574819
> If you want to do a subscription thing, you better be the best MUD around. Online text based games don't exactly have massive player-bases, even less for sex based ones.
Not sure what "best MUD around" I would be competing against -- but I don't want to put any emphasis on the money thing. A large part of me really wants to leave it free to play. It's easier on me, on players, on everything in between.

>>6574839
>Not sure what "best MUD around" I would be competing against
There are a lot of them that are really good, a few of them with sexual stuff in them.
There are also about a hundred that are completely dead, so be aware of that too.

>>6574839
>Not sure what "best MUD around" I would be competing against
WoW, FF14, etc. If you're serious about going commercial, get ready to hire a payment service (paypal, that "swipe" thing?). You do not want to roll your own, and the liability when you get everything wrong will end you.

>>6574842
If "completely dead" includes "now offline" I would say tens of thousands.

Shit, it looks like Lambda is still going after 25 years. God I feel old.

>>6574846
>you will never play your favorite MUD for the first time again
What's her name, /d/?

FC bug:Cannot remove slaves from arcade

>>6574842
Yeah, it would suck if that happens. There's a good chance it could, and I'm prepared to deal with that reality.

>>6574846
> You do not want to roll your own, and the liability when you get everything wrong will end you.
Definitely agree with you there. Dealing with money sucks even when it is "going right" -- chargebacks, fake CCs, etc. It's not worth it.

Since it seems relevant, I should ask, any particular mechanics people would want to see in a /d/ themed MUD?

>>6574856
Singleplayer.

>>6574856
>/d/ themed MUD
Semen physics. I want to be able to cum so much that it flows into the next room, stuff like that.

>smart worshipful virginal 18yo nympho hermaphrodite
I can't decide whether to keep her for myself or make a killing in the prostitution market.

>>6574759
http://freecitiesblog.blogspot.ca
.it works too and will direct you to the same.

>>6574856
Chargebacks and liability, nothing. As soon as money becomes involved, it attracts a species of asshat that believes it just bought the rights to your firstborn for five bucks, and will never let you or the rest of the player base forget it.

Dude, just do your research. MUX have been around long enough that the wheel has been reinvented dozens of times. Learn from other people's mistakes before you start writing a feature list.

Are the Newlife patreon releases still being posted here or is it onto another board/thread?

>>6575016
I think they are posted on Patreon.

>>6575016
Go nuts:
https://mega.nz/#!YUkTRAQa!7nlEEJIJWxvIIiybHIplu7Qojjv80jLsKgDQjxjhJ2k

Why are you guys talking about the same game over and over again? It's not really it's thread.
Secondly, western porn has been banned here, but western porn vidya isn't?
Wouldn't it be helpful for you to get a thread, or a board, or something?

>>6575065
This thread is for discussing /d/ games. There's no other thread to do that on /d/. So, this is it. Go on, discuss a /d/ game.

>>6575065
>or a board
Hiro-tan has been adding so many recently, might as well create a /dgg/ board.

>>6574851
But why would you want to?

I haven't seen a wiki set up for this game yet, so I made one about ten seconds ago.

freewikis dot wikia dot com

I'm hoping to flesh out the basics by this evening or tomorrow. If anons could contriboot that would be swell.

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>This hardcoded slave

Disgusting. At least her selling price was handsome.

>>6575157
You missed an opportunity there buddy. Set her to whore and roll in nearly 10k per week, every week, for the rest of the game.

>>6575164
Nah man. I couldn't play and fap knowing there was that "thing" in my game. Besides, her 280,000 selling price is more than enough to help me free sail through this game.

I'm surprised Free Cities allows for slaves to reach those kinds of physical attributes considering how FC Dev likes to keep a foot in realism.

>>6575207
It's only 9.2 liters, I've seen worse on /d/

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>>6575052

>>6575212
Does that mean it's touhou futa? Wait, this isn't /tg/, /d/ probably likes that.

Dolphin porn?

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>>6575217
Nah it's legit.
Touhou futa/dolphin porn would've been fine too desu

>>6574851

It was hotfixed

In other news, just saw a news article that penis transplants are a thing (or will be soon, doctors haven't actually done one yet), so that might make it in FC. Assuming FCDev listens to people about the trends of modern medicine.

>>6575217
>dolphin porn as a joke upload
what a wonderful world we live in

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>>6575222
>>6575329
Come on, guys, I still have 4.7 GB of touhou futa to read through...

Hey guys.
Rag player games aren't launching, don't seem to even be starting. Cursor loading icon flicks on for almost a quarter of a second, maybe, then stops and nothing happens. Know way too little about Event Viewer to look it up in there too. Anyone having similar issues or know how to fix?

>>6575352
http://bedlamgames.tumblr.com/post/128350243101/running-rags-games-on-windows-10

This just in: RAGS is shit, film at 11

>>6575353
Nope, nothing. Thanks anyway though.
Fucking W10 breaking everything though, first Star Citizen now Rags/Skyrim.

>>6575284
FCdev is going to bitterly regret tying features to real-life science once every single feature request turns into a fifty-comment clusterfuck about the feasibility of medical advancement X.

As for that particular feature, I think slaves are interchangeable enough as it is. Don't want him to make it even worse.

So, anyone knows the 3 stats needed for each of the job supervisors in FC, I know it says it kinda describes it right there, but dunno, I like things explicit.

>>6575407
Here's what I've found:
>fully trained, older for head girl
>experienced whore for brothel
>oral fetish, big cock for cockmilking facility
>intelligent, educated for school

>>6575401

Yeah, probably should have amended "and a function I want in the game" to "scientifically probable" earlier. That's usually kind of implied but FCDev is usually pretty good about the feature requests - people get attenuated to circumstances.

I'm moderately okay with the game now, but it's kind of undercuts the previous response to "why can't I put a dick on XX slaves?" of "nah, medicine can't do it". We'll see though, FCDev may never return to /dgg/ after the previous clusterfuck.

>>6575407
head girl old as possible
brothel age>=35, dick, balls, no hormones, whore 3
promenade age>=35, face 2, entertain 3
milkmaid
dairy age<21 musc>1 health>=8
extractor age>=35, dick, balls, no hormones, whore 3
school age>=35 int>0 edu>0

>>6575353
Bad RAGS games are bad, but every once in a while you get a Miss Adventure or Overseer

>>6575498
What's overseer about? I've heard people talking about it but I never tried it.

>>6575501
stair climbing simulator

>>6575498
RAGS != RAGS games
hammer != house

>>6575508
That doesn't sound very appealing.

>>6575515
It's a worthless piece of shit that has barely anything sexual in it at all. It is incredibly linear and if you don't follow an optimal build/research order, you'll lose very early, but if you do, you can't possibly lose ever.
Unless you're 'too mean' or 'not mean enough', which are both completely arbitrary values and have very little warning when you're approaching them.

>>6575524
But what is it about? And why do people apparently think it is good?

>>6575532
Mindcontrol, latex, and hours of tedious micromanagement, and walking through your unergonomically designed base.

So Trapquest dev hit $4000+ a month on patreon and lied about the goal i.e. turn TQ into his full time job.

Would make more sense if he waited a bit to see how things went, but full on saying he's not not gonna give up his day job when that was specifically one of the goals? Guess its better then him lying to us.

>>6575547
>Trapquest dev hit $4000+ a month on patreon
jesus fucking fuck

>>6575550
To be fair, they usually only get around 70% of what Patreon claims.

>>6575515
Dollmistress' games are very 'simulation-ey'

Overseer is a game where you play a chick that gets mindfucked by a Big Sapphic Mind Control Conspiracy and tasked with building up a 'hive' of your own. It is, admittedly, pretty monotonous, but the author is in the process of recoding/streamlining it with the benefit of what she learned from her latest game, Miss Adventure.

Miss Adventure is also sim-ey, but in the sense that you have to make sure to eat, keep yourself clean, go to work, etc. The actual plotline is that the PC finds out they are a superhero and begins detectiving all the weird (and inevitably mind-control themed) stuff happening in the city.

>>6575552
I'd still give up my shitty day job for that. They must make enough money or something.

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So each slave incurs roughly a 100-300 upkeep cost depending on what you give them.

Things like the brothel and promenade incur an upkeep cost of 500 when built, an additional 500 per capacity upgrade and an additional 100 when they upgrade.

An obedient slave in the servant's quarters reduces upkeep by 400.

So if I have say 15 slaves outside the servant's quarters that should cost me in the range of 4500-5000 credits.

If I have the brothel and promenade with an occupancy of 5 each as well as their upgrades that's an additional 1200 credits.

Would I be right in guessing that am I going to need 16 obedient slaves at the most in the servant's quarters to get rid of the upkeep costs of having 5 slaves in the brothel, 5 slaves out on the promenade and 5 shall we say arsing about in the penthouse?

I'm just wondering if I have the right idea about what's what in relation to upkeep.

>>6575563
Maybe he did give up his day job, but he's lying about it so he doesn't have to work more.

>>6575217
>implying /tg/ doesn't like touhou futa

>>6575571
Oh shit, that would be horrifically skeevy.
It's a possibility these days though.

Milk nerfed into uselessness, but I don't mind because now I have the Arcade. It's free money. Take a cheap crappy slave, drop her in there, roll in cash. And once in a while pay a visit to the facility and see the rows and rows of Mindbroken, Extremely Unhealthy, Very Slow slaves staring vacantly back at you...

>>6575565
That math sounds right.

It's been my experience that I tend to end up with a looot of servants to pay for the rest of my slaves if a game goes long enough.

Also don't forget to add in upkeep costs for mercenaries, if you want them. $3,000/week for the first event, and it jumps to $5,000/week if you upgrade/knight them.

>>6575581
Oh good, I haven't had a chance to try the new update yet but someone on the blog sade the Arcade literally worked slaves to death, which was bumming me out.

You get money for it? I wasn't expecting that.

>day two, fc dev still won't post on /d/
G-guys I think he's mad.

>>6575547
4000$ doesn't count the patreon cut and all the people with fake cards/dodging out at the end of the month/etc.

>>6575595
Good riddance. We don't need some limp-wrist who can't handle a man's caliber.

m-maybe he's just busy?

>>6575694
Maybe he netted a three day ban or something.

>>6574792
Listen. Listen? Please keep going. I've been waiting for a game like this for so long. I dont even care what fetishes are in it, I just want to play a lewd MMO that isn't bogged down with shit 3D.

>Hardest difficulty/start on FC
>get the 1 starting whore to earn cash until I'm sitting on 5k
>buy 5 1k whores
>build an arcade
>still earning enough to pay off debt
>the moment the debt is paid and 5k is sitting in the bank buy another 5 1k whores and take another 2.5k debt
>rinse, repeat
>now I'm sitting on 50 whores earning 50k with a 24k upkeep in my arcade
>have to replace 1 a week because FC seems to only be able to handle 1 slave death at a time
>if they were dying in large groups it'd only be an overhead cost and not a major setback

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>>6575705
one day I'll reach the level where the outer wall of the arcology is made of this.

>>6575709
Holy fuck those holes are getting worked worse than a Street Fighter machine

>>6575713
Yeah this is probably the first time I've looked at it and thought "war crime" instead of "human rights violation"

I've created a monster; but my dick is still hard so...

Is it the Arcade itself killing off everyone, or the extreme aphrodisiacs?

>>6575724
the arcade itself

>>6575724
Extreme aphrodisiacs reduce health by one, gloryhole without preventatives reduces health by one, too.

Result: Slaves go in, slaves don't go out.

I wonder if that means they learn that a slaved passed away when some client complains that the holes he rented wouldn't tighten.

This sucks by the way. I *demand* to be able to give them preventatives instead of aphrodisiacs in the name of prolonged punishment.

>>6575726
yeah I was a little bummed that not only did the upgraded version not save them from the brink of death it pushed them over

>>6575726
Also, since the arcade is so destructive, it would be nice to be able to condemn girls to it for specific periods of time. Say 10 weeks, then they automatically get out. That, or I don't know have the capacity to automatically get them out before they get mindbroken or ded. Like, get an event that they are on the brink and whether you want to let them in or get them out or whatever.

FCDev pls.

>>6575726
Yeah if the Arcade -has- to do health damage I second the need for preventatives.

Cut the income from it if necessary, mindbreaking is fine too, I just don't want slaves to actually -die-, I want them to suffer.

>>6575731
I don't want them to get mindbroken. Mindbroken slaves do not appreciate their situation as much as lucid slaves.

FC Dev!
The game completely skipped the arcology attack.
I have gotten the events for when the merc asks for a slave and to fund the refugee raid but the attack hasn't happened.

>>6575734
FCdev hath forsaken us for we hath questioned his lolimod commandment.

>>6575733
Well yeah, I'd be okay with them staying lucid and helpless. Just figured I wouldn't ask for -everything-, ya know?

Letting slaves die is a waste of assets...

Some building settings would be nice, but for the moment I'm enjoying stuffing captured Daughters into the arcade and leaving them to rot.

>>6575736
I doubt that. FCDev seems cool enough that one retard wouldn't set him off.

>>6575731
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Just be able to toggle between extreme aphrodisiacs/stimulators etc for mad cash and damage, or preventatives for sane cash and no damage.

>>6575736
I haven't been in this thread for a while so explain the lolimod thing to me please.

>>6575750
Check the last 200 posts of the last thread.

>>6575750
FCA has shit taste in calibers and fetishes

>>6575750
The drama started here
>>6574163

and then was inflamed more and more as people started fighting over the honor or lack thereof of loli fetishists

>>6575754
>>6575753
>>6575752
So basically a standard shitstorm about fetishes.

>>6575754
>fighting over the honor or lack thereof of loli fetishists
Hey now, most lolifags are chill. That one guy was just a faggot.

>>6575547
I don't understand this. If you only want to do the work for one job, fine, you should only get paid for one job. If you're willing to do the work for two jobs, I don't see the problem with getting payed accordingly.

>>6575756
Pretty much.

He either took part in it and got b& or he is looking down on us for having failled him.

This is the kind of stuff that starts religious splits by the way.

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I've just been busy, calm your shit. Didn't have time to debug 0.5 and do my usual here too. Some anons need to learn how to report, hide, ignore, but I love you anyway.

>>6574756
>What is this game?
Game is Free Cities (freecitiesblog dot blogspot dot com, for ctrl+f), pic is the game's structure in Twine.

>>6574581
>I'll admit though, the 9mm surprised me too. It's not surprising that people might still be using that cartridge 20 years from now, because they will. But given all the power suits and security droids running around, you'd expect a bodyguard might have something a little more...futuristic.
It's a revolutionary using 9mm. I see the suits the PC and the mercs wear using mostly legacy weapons, just bigger than an unassisted person can comfortably wield and carry ammo for. The drones are probably a bit more exotic due to weight considerations - caseless, maybe, in the 5-6mm range.

>>6574642
>This new release seems to have upped the difficulty to the point where I'm going bankrupt incredibly easily
The goal is to make the default difficulty require some attention. Whoring was way too profitable until 0.5.

>>6574770
>Is it really such a difficult bug to eradicate?
If you pop open FC's code you are seeing literally >90% of my coding experience. That's my secret: for me, it's all hard. You should see the shit I catch before public releases.

>>6575401
>FCdev is going to bitterly regret tying features to real-life science once every single feature request turns into a fifty-comment clusterfuck about the feasibility of medical advancement X
You should see my fucking inbox.

>>6575565
This all looks about right. At the moment however, massive servant use isn't the best option from a pure profit standpoint, since proper servants are going to earn more elsewhere. Eventually I'll add diminishing returns though, making the first ~5 servants extremely useful.

>>6575762
>continued
>forgot trip

>>6575591
>Arcade literally worked slaves to death, which was bumming me out.
You should have seen the first version of the arcade. Amputation was not the only surgery required. Arcade is bugged though. Death was an unintended consequence of the way I borrowed preexisting code. Even with the upgrade it's only supposed to push them to the edge, not over it.

>>6574767
>you can't give preventatives to your arcade inmates to make sure they stay fit for duty indefinitely
Apparently I need to make this clearer in game again. The facilities are all assumed to be looking after their inhabitants' drugs, clothing, rules, etc. Your arcade inmates are getting preventatives, anon. It's just that they're not enough. They should be going down to ~-8 health though, not dying. My bad.

>>6575694
>We don't need some limp-wrist who can't handle a man's caliber.
But anon, this shitty argument can be used against any caliber by a larger caliber. It doesn't stop at .45 - the true man's pistol caliber is 45/70 Gov't!

>>6575757
My disposition towards loli and loli fetishists consists in deep and unfaltering indifference.

>>6575762
>>6575762

THE SON OF OLDHUNTSMAN HAS NOT FORSAKEN US

REJOICE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pqKiOZdI40

>>6575762
>I've just been busy, calm your shit.

This situation, where you have a needy tamagotchi that requires constant attention and emotional support and if you neglect it either gets mad at you or guilty and starts accumulating neuroses. Don't forget about it.

If you ever think of procreating, always remember how /d/ reacted to a day-long delay in your recap and think better.

>>6575762
What is the clusterfuck of lines in the middle-left?

>>6575764
>Even with the upgrade it's only supposed to push them to the edge, not over it.

It's killing them fast. Jesus christ mate, it's a holocaust in there. The allies will never stop talking about it after they kill me.

Also what amputation? Do they get amputated?

>>6575771
You know how when you choose a drug treatment the page refreshes? Well, I suspect FCdev is sending you to another page instead of just using a text variable to change how that page reads. I suspect he found out about this at some point hence why some choices don't refresh the page.

How close am I FCdev?

>>6575762
>If you pop open FC's code you are seeing literally >90% of my coding experience. That's my secret: for me, it's all hard.

I did that once with Cursed's front door text, and I'm still having nightmares about it, so I'll just take your word for it.

>>6575764

>the true man's pistol caliber is 45/70 Gov't!

Well, I know that .45-70 is the superior large pistol caliber choice for stopping Centurions and Cazadores.

>>6575698
I'm all ears, usually lurking. I started this project because of the exact reason you have. Also the client will be Windows/OSX/Linux because it sucked growing up on a Macintosh and seeing all the games I couldn't play.

>>6575764
>the true man's pistol caliber is 45/70 Gov't!
Finally someone that talks like a real man!

Anyway I have a small list of suggestions if you don't mind.
1. Ability for the assistant to automatically apply brands
2. Custom brands
3. Fix the auto-assistant so that it actually bleaches assholes

Keep up the good work FCDev. I always look forward to your updates!

>>6575762
>If you pop open FC's code you are seeing literally >90% of my coding experience. That's my secret: for me, it's all hard. You should see the shit I catch before public releases.

Like me. I'm building something without any programming knowledge, propulsed solely by the power of pure unadulterated autism.

>>6575709
What criteria do you use to send them there?

>>6575782
>pure unadulterated autism
The most dangerous force in the universe.

>>6575764
>Your arcade inmates are getting preventatives, anon. It's just that they're not enough. They should be going down to ~-8 health though, not dying. My bad.

:"(

I would still appreciate some way to make sure they don't get mindbroken immensely, though. Just an event "yo dawg dis bitch gonna crack if you don't get her outta there! waddayasay?" would be great.

>>6575788

Could be a fun random event.

>"Please, get me the fuck out of here, I'll do anything".

>>6575781
Oh, and more kinds of collars would be neat. Something like a silver collar would go good with the nice suits I have my on my slaves or generic religious symbols to go with the nun outfits.

>>6575781
The auto-assistant does work. I know because I, too, have set it to bleaching assholes and it works just fine.

It just doesn't work automatically unless you choose "activate rules assistant".

>>6575786
>Do they exist?
>if yes send to arcade
>else if no send to arcade
>else send to arcade

I'm only guessing though

>>6575789
Yes, great idea. Your personal assistant is monitoring them so it could tell you about them.

>>6575729
>>6575731
>>6575772
This. We need an upgrade that keeps them at a constant (low but not dead) level of health. Someone dying there should be a rare happenstance, perhaps only as an event. Poor maintenance on the machine, perhaps?

>>6575764
>Death was an unintended consequence
¡Viva la Arcología!

>>6575791
Let me clarify. It doesn't work on slaves newly bought from the market. I just checked and the main menu option doesn't apply it and neither does the option to apply defaults when you first acquire the slave.

>>6575797
That's interesting. Could be a bug with 0.5 because I distinctly remember applying defaults returning "her asshole has been modified" in the previous version.

Might want to post that in the blogspot to make sure he sees it.

>>6575799
It's been a bug for a while. For starting slaves it works fine but any new slaves you buy it won't apply it.

>>6575802
I'm definitely sure it worked in 0.4.9

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>>6575762
>Eventually I'll add diminishing returns though

Ah don't

>>6575806
>all those servants
>no stewardess
For what purpose?

>>6575810
I'm working on that.

>>6575772
>It's killing them fast. Jesus christ mate, it's a holocaust in there. The allies will never stop talking about it after they kill me.
Just posted a quick patch that should keep the arcade upgrade from killing inmates.
>Also what amputation? Do they get amputated?
Not in the version that I went with, no. As originally planned, the arcade was going to be a far more invasive setup. Now it only wrecks their physical and mental health.

>>6575771
>What is the clusterfuck of lines in the middle-left?
That's the end of week code. All the facilities and assignments use those passages to piece together code to handle each slave's week.

>>6575774
>You know how when you choose a drug treatment the page refreshes? Well, I suspect FCdev is sending you to another page instead of just using a text variable to change how that page reads. I suspect he found out about this at some point hence why some choices don't refresh the page.
Sort of. My shitty array system to make everyone's stats work without object based stuff sometimes requires a page refresh to apply changes, sometimes not.

>>6575781
>Fix the auto-assistant so that it actually bleaches assholes
The bug that would not die. Fuck.

Also post /d/ images to keep the janitor off.

>>6575806
One of your slaves is missing the standard shock collar. I'll leave you to finding her.

>>6575812
>Also post /d/ images to keep the janitor off.

To keep them off, or to get them off?

>>6575814
Panagoita?
Thanks for the spot.

>>6575812
Why not make the amputation decrease the upkeep for arcade slaves? That way there's still an incentive but it's not mandatory.

>>6575812
>Just posted a quick patch

Already? Impressive as always.

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>>6575812
Does Twine not support object-oriented programming, or is it something you just don't want to fuck with? Not that I blame you, OOP can get you in deep shit pretty quick.

>>6575812
>keep the arcade upgrade from killing inmates
Don't do that. Make a new upgrade so that it cal still happen but you have a way to fix it.

>>6575821
H-He made all this without objects?

The fuck, how? What are the slaves, then? Variables? Bundles of correlated variables? Well technically that's what objects are, anyway. Why go to all the trouble?

>>6575823
>Make a new upgrade so that it cal still happen but you have a way to fix it.

How? Would it doze them with phoenix down?

I meant that the current situation (people dying all the time) could happen, but you could fix the situation (by upgrading (targeted health drug IV rather than preventatives, perhaps?)) and no longer have people die all the time. Not like fixing the individual deaths. If you care about individual slaves, you could already fix it individually by taking them out and healing them and treating them nicely before throwing them into the glory holes anew.

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>>6575812
The new career fluff and the intelligence stat are great and really help to fleshout randomly generated slaves.

Any chance nun, journalist, musician, and unemployed could be added to the careers?

Also any plans to do more with education and intelligence? Prestigious genius/wunderkind slaves maybe?

>>6575831
>unemployed
There's too much nuance to that. Beggars and vagrants should be one, NEET leach could be one, itinerant preacher/philosopher could be one.

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>>6575777
It's not too bad, just twine doesn't support parameters or return values, so it's globals. Globals everywhere.

>>6575797
>>6575802
It's not a bug-- it doesn't modify slaves below obedient because they'll have mental reactions to that shit. Break your slaves first.

>>6575825
Arrays of dictionaries, basically. Dictionaries are perfectly capable of quacking like a duck.

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FCDev:

I got tired of lag in FC. Instead of bitching about it, I decided to dig into twine and figure out what the hell was causing it to take over a second between scenes. The two big lag spots for me are summary generation, and event selection. I haven't found what is causing the summary lag, but I found is causing the event selection lag.

So in your code: You go through every slave and if they qualify for an event you add both the event to a list and the slave id to a list. Once this is done, you select a random event, then a random slave from that event's slave list. You then discard these arrays at the end, and remake them at the end.

Holy shit is this wasteful. You currently have fifty-six events with an average of three checks each. I currently have seventy slaves in my game. Worst case (in computer science you always plan worst case until you can math out average), your going to push nearly four thousand slave ids and events into arrays.

The further downside to this method is the more slaves who qualify for an event, the more common said event is. This is more of an opinion, because I'd rather see more different events but up to you.

My proposed solution:
Instead of iterating over every slave select a random slave. Have an array of all the events. Select a random number "i" less than the size of the event array. Starting at the number and working your way up check if the slave qualifies for event[i]. If she does, fire that event. If she doesn't, increment i. Make sure that if "i" becomes greater than size of the event array it is set to zero so you start from the front of the array. If you make it all the way around to your original random number, you can do two things. You could select another random slave and repeat this process, or you could just have "No Event" fire.

If you go the "no event" route, you only make around 150 comparisons (instead of over eleven thousand), and store two random numbers (instead of four thousand).

continued...

>>6575831
Maybe add bookkeeping as a job. Maybe as a better way to lower upkeep like a higher tier of servant?

>>6575733
>>6575737
>>6575742
>>6575788

Glory-hole and Arcade both don't directly cause mindbreaking, only the odd quirk.

However they both lower devotion, and when a slave is rebellious or worse and has more then a 100 sex acts there is a weekly chance to mindbreak.

You can keep slaves worshipful in the gloryhole, probably for years like confinement.

>>6575839

Office facility. Slutty secretaries make money based on intelligence, they have a Supervisor for their supervisor.

>>6575838

The method I specified above follows the style you have currently: the more slaves who qualify for an event, the more common that event is.

If you want to control how often different events occur, instead of selecting a random slave, then finding an event that fits the slave, you select a random (or weighted random) event, then go through the slaves to find one who fits the event. Downside to this one is that is probably more likely to end in a "no event", but it lets you control how often events are.

Hope my posts help you, and make the game better.

>>6575839
>>6575845
A team of dedicated Israeli sex-slave accountants to manage all you're arcology assets while you manage their assets.

>>6575848
>Event where you fuck one while they're working
>They mess up and you lose a shit load of money

>>6575838
>The further downside to this method is the more slaves who qualify for an event, the more common said event is. This is more of an opinion, because I'd rather see more different events but up to you.
That's already an option, right?

>>6575838
if the random slave doesn't qualify for any event, couldn't he just repeat the process with another random slave until someone does? or just fire one of the events that have nothing to do with a slave. Those already happen often.

>>6575855

After reading your comment I went back and looked and yeah >_>

The way FCDev does event normalization might actually be another source of lag. He does it by removing duplicate events from the event table. I'm not sure what twine uses for their arrays, but it is probably not optimized for mid list deletion.

>>6575786
less than 2-2.5k cost to buy them; 1k flat for the very first group
>>6575792
but pretty much this

>>6575857

I mention the repeat is an option. The downside to this is that if no slaves qualify for any events, you have to have a bit of logic to catch that case.

I've already found an issue with my code: it doesn't really account for events that aren't slave focused. FCDev would have to add a decision statement that decides whether or not to do a slave focused event, or use the alternate method I described in >>6575847

>>6575792
there will come a day when no one is left to patron my arcade; my debts will pile up through automated systems and I will look for the dagger at my back

But there is no one there. There is only the Arcade now.

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'Pure White'™
Organic Caucasian Semen
No dilutants or hormonal additives
[Inert - For recreational use only]

I'm building a fucking empire!

>>6575863
>Your debts pile up
>Finally run out of money
>You're automatically transferred to the Arcade
>You're the last human on earth and humanity eventually disappears but the Arcade remains

>>6575863
It was the personal assistant all along!

>>6575866
How do you increase their balls?

I find that hormones only work the first two - four weeks.

>>6575869
They seem to grow on their own, even without hormones. I reported it as a possible bug about an hour ago.

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>>6575812
Dunno if anyone's reported this bug-
The daughters of liberty event is utterly broken. It skips past them trying to free a slave to them having freed your slave. Except it's a null value, as no slave was freed. This continues to break every scene that follows it in the chain.

FC Dev can very smart slaves still get educated status?

>>6575876
I think you mentioned something in relation to that before but I can not for the life of me find it.

>>6575876
Someone said custom ordered slaves can't be educated, if that's your problem.

>>6575873
Didn't happen to me in 5.01.

Could FCdev hazard a guess as to whether 5.01 saves are compatible with whatever the latest hotfix is?

Also, it would be nice to have a changelog for each hotfix somewhere.

The current file on Dropbox says "FC Alpha v 0.5.0.1.html". The first hotfix was "FC Alpha v 0.5.01.html". I'm fairly sure v0.5.01 isn't the latest one. Somewhat confusing.

>>6575876
Looked at the source, nope. Slaves with two or greater intelligence can't be educated. However, for most calculations, educated is treated as one point of intelligence.

>>6575888
so which slaves can be educated?

>>6575890
ones like you

>>6575891
I take it this is an off-hand insult and you mean slow slaves?

Isn't that an inconsistency?

>>6575890
Any slave with less than two intelligence who is not already educated. The more devoted and intelligent they are, the faster they make progress.

So I took a peek into into the code for FC, I'm not sure if he's making it more complicated than it should be.

So I'm gonna give making a game a shot. Not a /d/ game exactly, but I'm gonna try to make a game based around the same idea as Newlife. Going for a dating/sex sim. Wish me luck, guys.

>>6575897
Epsilon-minus semi-morons can be taught to fuck, at least. We can't do without any one. Even epsilons are useful. We couldn't do without epsilons.

>>6575899
Twine might not be the best platform for that, but it'll do if you don't try to micromanage too much.

What language does Twine work with? Because I'm mediocre at C++ and FC's source code looks like absolute nonsense to me.

>>6575899
Make it so I can play as a trap

>>6575904
Part javascript, part interpreted custom stuff. I think FC is all interpreted.

You can figure out what "if ($seeDicks is 1) and (random(1,100) gt 80)" means, right?

>>6575901
So do you have any recommendations for me? Definitely not planning on making anything with graphics; it's gonna be text-based. I can't draw for shit and I don't want to get someone to draw for me because that shit's not free.

>>6575906
If I can do it, I'm not going to limit clothing to gender. So hopefully, you can be a bisexual male dressed in female clothing, then romance and have sex with people who are attracted to males.

But this is going to be my first real attempt at making a game. I've never really tried any sort of programming before. The most I've done is fiddled around with coding in BYOND.

I'm just gonna tell you right off the bat that I probably won't have anything decent to show within the next year considering my lack of experience. And because of that, I make no guarantees that I can even implement what people want, let alone what I want.

>>6575868
Drugs, penis enhancement.

>>6575916
Literally wat

>>6575915
>So do you have any recommendations for me?
Are you the one making a game or the ε-?

>>6575920

The one trying to make a game. Hopefully with success.

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>>6575901
>Epsilon-minus semi-morons can be taught to fuck, at least. We can't do without any one. Even epsilons are useful. We couldn't do without epsilons.
I understood that reference.

>>6575915
Inform7 is basically designed to help beginners get started with a text adventure, but you'll have to do some extra work to do things that aren't text adventures. Do you like how trapquest's interface works? It's that. (The pictures might take a little extra work too)

Newlife itself is in java with some UI toolkit or other.. I wouldn't recommend a beginner start with that but if you're adventurous you'll get some useful skills as a side-effect. Same goes for other general-purpose programming languages like C++.

It's hard to give a suggestion if you don't already know a programming language.

Here's an updated list of best slaves for roles:
Madam: Whore > 2, Age > 35, Int > 0, Dick > 2, Balls > 0, No hormones
Concierge: Entertain > 2, Age > 35, Face > 1, int > 0
Milkmaid: Health >= 8, Age < 21, Musc > 1
Collection Oral > 2, Butt > 4, Boobs > 800, Dick > 3, Balls > 0, No hormones
Teacher: Max Int, Age > 35 Skills don't matter. School can only teach level one of skills
Stewardess: Health >= 8, Age > 35, Int > 0, Dick > 2, Balls > 0, No hormones
Recruiter: Devotion > 25, Int >= 2 (Also upgraded promenade helps)
Specific to group:
recruit whores: oralCount > 1000
recruit mothers: preg > 5
recruit migrants: health > 8, face > 0
recruit sissies: dick > 1, balls > 0, no hormones
recruit re-assing: ovaries = 0, face > 0

Side note: If slaves get to pick their clothing, they pick based on their fetish if it is known, otherwise they pick based on their job (if they're obedient).

>>6575909
Yeah. It's different from how C++ works, but I can figure most of it out.

>>6575915

Twine would work. You create scenes, link them together, and it has macros that let you change what the text is based on options i.e. if x, print y otherwise print z.

If you just want to start making stuff, Twine is probably the easiest route to go. If you want to learn a RL applicable skill, the faster route would be to code it in HTML5/Javascript/JQuery, but that requires learning a lot more.

>>6575937
>Side note: If slaves get to pick their clothing, they pick based on their fetish if it is known, otherwise they pick based on their job (if they're obedient).

You mean they would if it wasn't broken.

>>6575951
Broken how? I just tested it with two slaves and it worked.

>>6575954
Not him, but almost every slave decides to wear a string bikini on mine. And the rules assistant makes it worse, because it works as a toggle for the clothing for some reason. I get a fresh batch of slaves, and try to sue the assistant and now every slave before them is naked.

>>6575930
Not really enjoying the way trapquest works. I'm not looking to make a text adventure. I actually prefer FC's interface.

>>6575946
Twine seems like it'll do fine from what FC Dev's managed to do. Of course, I'm sure I'm bound to run into limitations soon enough as I go on.

>>6575954
I just realised what is happening. If you choose "choosing her own clothes" the description says she is wearing choosing her own clothes and her nude body in in display, after you confirm changes the mechanic works properly.

Interesting.

>>6575959
I'm pretty sure FC Dev broke Twine over his knee and forced it to do as he wanted. Twine is designed to make CYOA stories.

>>6575960
You also get small section in the end of week update where it says why she chose to wear the clothing she did. I'm loving looking through the source cause I get to find all the little features FCDev thought of.

>>6575959
I would use something like Quest, personally. Or I don't know daydreamer. You know, things that are like rags except not infuriating like rags.

I mean you can fool around with twine, but I'm pretty sure it's not made to do complex things.

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>>6575959
Yeah, twine should be okay. I'm just worried about scenes where you can do ten different things to ten different people with a hundred different outcomes, but they all lead back to a main screen. That'll be the hardest part in twine.

Bug: Slaves in arcade show up in "train" menu

>>6575937
>recruit re-assing: ovaries = 0
Will the removal surgery make qualify?

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>>6575764
Reductio ad absurdum won't save you, FC Dev. Deep down inside, you know it to be true: there's only one real fighting caliber.

Pic very much related.

>>6576011

But...9mm is clearly in control! You have foiled your own plans this time, /k/!

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>>6576011
>true man's pistol caliber
>not .500 S&W Magnum

>>6575993
Huh? What train menu?

>>6576011
That's not a reductio, that's a continuum fallacy. Just saying.

Where do I download FC?
Keep in mind I don't even know what FC stands for please don't bully.

>>6576026
>>6575762

>>6576026
Freecities dot blogspot dot com.

Call now and get it for only 9.99

>>6576003
Anon, this is the kind of shit you test yourself. But yes it does work. I opened up my save, bought a slave from The Slavegirl School, removed her ovaries and got the bonus message.

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>>6576032
freecitiesblog*

Thanks for the game FC dev. I am also curious about about the possibility of adding some snuff and human toilet content. I would also like to suggest new slave modifications such as clit removal, pussy sewing, blindfold, and eye removal. Im not sure if you have already made statements on these.

>>6576054
Ideas go to his blogspot. Post as anonymous.

>>6575838
the game also slows down the more saves you have, for optimal performance running a single save+autosave is best

>>6575836

You can make an object constructor in the Javascript window of Sugarcube, then call that function and set the new object as a twine variable. Seems to work alright.

>>6575838
watching the FC dev learn CS

this is legit why I came to /D/

>>6576089
>/D/
Stop that.

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>>6576089
>/d/ - Programmer Gore and Caliber Wars

>>6576096
Don't forget about the semicolon debates.

>>6576104
And the Great Trolicon Schism.

>>6576104
There is literally; nothing, wrong with semicolons

>>6575780
There's nothing really I can suggest right now, but it'd be great if you could post updates and such about progress in /dgg/ threads, or at least make a blog for it.

>>6576109
>t. hitler

>>6575969
If I end up deciding on Twine, I'm sure I'll get better as I go along and be able to deal with it somehow.

>>6575966
So after I've explored Quest's game book development for a while now. I'm actually less confused with Twine. Quest's documentation is not as extensive as Twine's and I can at least search an index with Twine's. Quest's is really annoying to navigate. I'll keep it in the back of my mind, but I probably won't use Quest. I'll look at Daydreamer next.

>>6576213
I only recommend quest because I think it's pretty powerful and can handle OOP. If you want something easy, you don't get easier than twine.

>>6576214

So Twine doesn't exactly allow OOP? Because I can technically make objects, like
$player
$activenpc
then have variables assigned to it like
$player.name = "John Doe"
$activenpc.sex = "male"

Like I said, I'm a completely inexperienced programmer so I don't understand it when they seem to function in the same way. If you can explain to me what the difference is, I would appreciate it.

Now the rules assistant automatically tattoos the slaves' chests with "no default setting". I take it this means he accidentally a " or something so the game doesn't get it's a value and not something it's supposed to print.

>>6576224
That's the most hilarious bug I've ever heard of

>>6576223
What you're doing there is kind of but not really OO.

A "true" Object has a well-defined identity and list of things it has and can do.

What you're using there is Javascript's prototype model, it allows you to set arbitrary properties on things, either like you're doing (thing.var) or with array-like access (var['thing']).

Another difference is that in a lot of languages you can't just get a list of everything an object has and loop through it, you have to know what to ask for. With Javascript's properties, you can just loop through all the properties on an object.

A side note, OO in Javascript is really just a side-effect of the prototype model, and doesn't really enforce any identity for the things you create using it.

Also note that I haven't done any serious Javascript in YEARS, so all of this may in fact be wrong.

>>6576223
Inform is object oriented, Twine is not

Lets say you want to see how many of your npc's have both trait A and trait B.

With inform, all you need to do is define something as an npc and give it those traits. Any time you want to know about npc's with trait A, call npc's with trait A. Any time you want to know about npc's with trait A and B, call npc's with trait A and B.

With twine, you need to create an object(or an array) for that npc and give it those traits, and give it a trait for its name. Next, you need to create an array of all npc's. Next, create an array of all npc's with trait A. Next, create an array of all npc's with trait B. Any time you want to know about npc's with trait A, call the array of npc's with trait A. Any time you want to know about npc's with trait A and trait B, call the array of npc's with trait A, then call the array of npc's with trait B.

"Objects" in twine are arbitrary, so you can only track objects individually, and if you want to track objects on a greater scale, you're out of luck unless you create an object made up of aliases for other objects.

>>6576237
>Inform is object oriented, Twine is not
Shut up, fuckwit.

Do you even know what javascript is? Twine is based on it. You can do OO in javascript, so you can do it with Twine.

Go fuck yourself with your shitty inform7.

>>6576224
This actually seems like a bug with the assistant, not with the game. Next update should have an event where the assistant bugs out and starts tattooing 'no default setting' or blank qr codes or the jpg not found symbol, or has an integer overflow and tries to place a custom order for a set of 4,294,967,295 CC breast implants. Then you have to decide whether you call in tech support, or try to figure out a way to discipline your sultry-voiced virtual assistant.

>>6575498
Both are bloat city. Day-to-day simulators are just extra bad on RAGS.

>>6575762
Stop doing the spelled dot
http://freecitiesblog.blogspot.ca/ works just as well

>>6576239
Actually, JS has lots of problems with OO. You have to do a lot of hacks to get them to work the way you want.

For instance, try getting a JS object to inherit traits from a parent class.

(Not the guy you replied to, by the by.)

>>6576228
>>6576237

I'm having difficulty understanding how to use Quest and Inform. Maybe I'm just retarded, or Twine is apparently just easier to use, with the tradeoff that Twine requires more work and will require arrays and such.

I'll keep trying, maybe it'll click someday for me. If not, I might have to just go with Twine.

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>>6576239
The guy who acts like a rabid dog every time somebody mentions inform7 always makes me giggle.

>>6576111
I've thought of making a blog before, just never took the time to do so. It'll take a little effort to set up but keeping the public informed definitely seems worth it.

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>>6576073
Deleting one save takes forever. Deleting all the saves at once is instant. I think it's sugarcube at work here, but still-- they have to work to make it that bad.

>>6576228
>side-effect of the prototype model
All of JS is a side-effect of making the monkey dance.

>>6576296
Maybe it's just because I learned programming back in the 1900s but I still think OOP gets in the way more often than it helps. The important thing is getting a finished game, don't worry about formalisms.

>>6576341
Force yourself to make regular posts with at least one new feature/fix each. Keep doing that and one day your game will be done.

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>routinely dump all rebels, criminals, attackers and abolitionists into the wallbutt arcade to live out the rest of their lives
>get attacked by the Daughters of Liberty and crush them
>go to dump them all into wallbutts
>ugly 40-year-old dude, dumped
>ugly retarded girl, dumped
>pause at the last one
>intelligent, uneducated, pretty, tall, naturally narrow waist, ex-criminal light-skinned Guatemalan latina, extremely healthy and in her early thirties
>named Gabriela
>decide to give her a chance
>she adapts quickly, becomes obedient, and learns fast, and becomes a nympho from a brief educational stint as a whore
>make her my recruiter for that delicious irony
>the money I make from reselling waifs and strays she recruits is what lets me break the benefactress of the Daughters of Liberty
>Gabriela bonds with my muscular Russian herm bodyguard over their mutual nymphomania, eventually becoming lovers
>I let my bodyguard knock up Gabriela and they ask me to join in

At this point I'm more attached to Gabriela than a whole lot of actual written characters I've encountered in H-games.

>>6575761
The lolist versus the anti-lolists fighting for the favour of FCDev's majesty.

>>6575821
Is that a picture of the Daughter of Liberty that suicide bombs?

I just want to help FC Dev code ;-;

>>6576237
>Any time you want to know about npc's with trait A, call npc's with trait A. Any time you want to know about npc's with trait A and B, call npc's with trait A and B.

And how do you think inform knows this? It's probably either holding a data-structure in memory or creating it as needed, which could as well be an array.

Unless Twine doesn't allow to write your own functions you could just write such a function yourself with Twine as well.


This has nothing to do with object orientation

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So what is currently the most efficient way to make money? I've just lost two games in a row because I forgot to save, and wasn't sure of the limit to the amount of debt you could go into, AND I was willing to take the risk to try and chase after that damn rival arcology owner.

I play on easy, which only makes this more infuriating.

Should I be getting bitched, training them up then selling for massive profits? (I've already been doing some of this, I always start with the wealthy start then ditch the used goods for maximum profit to get my arcology upgraded almost out of the gate.) Are whores nerfed enough that I shouldn't be using them as a stop-gap money method? I just want to capture that damn arcology rival ONCE and then build my perfect placid milk array after things settle down. That's all I want.

>>6576472
I think the big sticking point for people is that they're used to playing with a few slaves they focus on and turn into a perfect harem of perfect waifus but they just don't have enough raw earning power to pay for the neat shit they want. You need a *lot* of slaves. Ten is a good start, twenty is better.

Done two full games since intelligence was introduced and here's what I've been doing - selling the starting slave/s (because they've got average intelligence) and using the money from them to buy a couple slaves from the basic slave market with max int or one less than max int and uneducated. Live off that seed money for the couple months it takes for them to be devoted enough to start whoring, then buy four more or pick them up in random events. What you're aiming for is three for a brothel and three for a promenade - when you just have three, it's easiest to get the perfect variety bonus because one heavily tattooed and pierced, busty and big-assed forty-something shemale can balance out a couple of regular young bio-females. Also, buy the drone upgrade as soon as you have the money to do so, because once you start putting girls on public servant you'll quickly hit the arcology income limit, plus you need to buy it before the event that will let you arm your drones.

Buy up the drones, weapons and mercenaries at the most expensive options when you can - this will probably stall out your income but that's okay, as your girls improve they should start bringing you forward. Around now you'll get the attack event, and since you bought the most expensive options you'll have minimal loss of money from it and you'll get some free slaves. Chances are they'll be shit, though. Buy an arcade and dump them into it unless they're not shit, although if one has huge tits or balls you might want to consider getting a dairy or extraction facility to put them in.

cont

>>6576500
Once you've got an arcade, upgrade it and any time you have the opportunity to buy someone in a random event, take it and dump them in the wallbutt arcade and you'll break even within a month and the rest is profit. If your conscience bugs you about it, you can save it for just criminals and debtors.

Your next target is a madam for the brothel and a concierge for the promenade, and to fill out the positions of bodyguard, head girl and recruiter. These are where you build your waifus. For the madam, you want a smart shemale or herm with a functional dong over the age of 35, max out their whoring skill and grow their dong with drugs. For the concierge, you want her pretty, smart, and over 35, and max out her entertainment skill before you put her to work. For the head girl, you want her smart, over 35, and a herm - but this usually isn't possible until late game since herms are so rare and you need to spend a fortune to upgrade your surgery to upgrade it yourself. A shemale gets a bonus to teaching sex skills because she can use her dong, but she doesn't have vaginal skills of her own to pass on, though you can always 'upgrade' her later on. Make sure you max out her sex, entertainment, and whoring skills before you make her head girl. Finally, for the recruiter you want her as devoted and as intelligent as possible. They spend a little bit of money to attract recruits that are usually worth 10-20k, and a good one can attract a new recruit every three weeks or so.

cont

In Free Cities, shemale slaves cannot qualify for "virginal" nicknames right?

>>6576519
You'll get scripted events to get new recruits along the way. There's a taser skeet shooting event where you can pick between a musclegirl, a herm, and a girl with huge T&A - good to fill out whatever you're missing in your brothel or promenade. There's one where your mercenaries raid a lab and bring you back your own River Tam - a max-devotion max-health virgin herm 18-year-old nympho genius with a few quirks. I usually make her my bodyguard but she's a great asset pretty much anywhere. There's the raid on refugees, where you can choose between a lot of really sick ones, an average amount of average ones, or a few decent ones plus a bigger rep boost - I rarely get anything great from this but you usually make a profit just from selling them straight off so it's worth a shot.

cont

>>6576524
VV requires a V, yes

>>6576530
Eventually, you'll be prompted to upgrade your mercenaries to your Evocatii/Immortals/Knights. This is the point you need your shit together by - if you've been playing well you usually have all of the above set up before this point and can spend some extra time expanding the brothel or promenade, or building a collection facility or dairy or servant's quarters. Either way, if you can't afford the huge jump in upkeep this upgrade costs you should probably restart if you really, really want to enslave the rival archologist. If you can, you've made it to the endgame. Keep expanding your business until the Daughters of Liberty attack, at this point you should be sitting on at least 100k in the bank and at least 5k income a week - ideally, 10k a week or more.

When the rival firsts contacts you, you can either contact them to shake them down for money or start attacking them. Pick the most expensive option you can afford until you burn your savings down to about 70k then maintain there by choosing the first option until you win. If you can't maintain your bank balance, don't be afraid to sell off your brothel/promenade slaves, because they'd be worth a fortune. Eventually you'll win and you'll have the option to spend 50k to put a bounty on the competitor, and if you've still got that much money to burn then congratulations, you just won Free Cities.

>>6576500
>>6576519
>>6576539

if that's too much effort for you, or you'd rather focus on the waifu simulator part of FC, reroll your starting slaves until you get mistress izzy, sell her turn 1 for close to 300k, and then do whatever you want

Anyone know how to hack a RAGS game? :/

>>6574911
I think there's a /d/ mod for Dorf Fortress.

>>6576565
Yeah, use a disassembler. I cracked the master password RAGS uses to open games, but it was a random string of characters and it's on my old computer.... Also I'm not giving that out 'cuz it's kind of a douche move. Just wanted to gloat about being able to open any RAGS game and set "password protected = false".

>>6575762
>The drones are probably a bit more exotic due to weight considerations - caseless, maybe, in the 5-6mm range.

"We fire the whole bullet; that's 65% more bullet per bullet."

>>6576614
If I had done that I would've uploaded the unlocked version of every RAGS game just to annoy the developers.

>>6576614
So on the end I need a disassembler and a password, but you're not giving it to me... :(

>>6576640
Also, anyone knows a rags disassembler?

>>6576472
If you want to be a war criminal, keep dumping people in the arcade and swim in the mad cash

>>6576694
TFW you realize you can set up rape camps in FC like something out of Hotel Rwanda or some other African bush war.

>>6576694
... I'm actually gonna try this and see what my profits are like.

>>6576708
The profits at the upgraded arcade are around the same as the profits for new slaves on the default brothel. Great to start with, but once you can get the brothel going with a good variety and mistress, the brothel turns more profit.

>>6576708
MAD cash m8. In all other playthroughs I was taking personal attention of all the slaves, whether I abused them or I was kinda sorta nice to them.But jesus christ the money you get from this is out of this world. I quickly found myself putting girls in there without even taking care to check what they look like. If you ever wondered what Arrendt meant by the banality of evil, it was this.

I became a glorified accountant organising industrial suffering and it was just business, no ill-will whatsoever, because I stopped registering them as NPCs at all. Basically it's a lot more monstrous than whatever cruelty a single oligarch can dose out because unlike making girls amputee fuckpillows it's absolutely impersonal and calculated as a means to capitalize. I feel like I had an epiphany about commodification or something.

But I digress. MAD CASH.

>>6576715
You probably don't have the same amount of inmates in the arcade. No training or living expenses required. You buy and drop them in there and you immediately make some surplus. Basically have a good recruiter and keep dropping girls in there every second week. I was making ~15k in a few weeks.

Only my conscience can stop this, but I can't quite hear it over the sound of ALL THIS MONEY I'M SWIMMING IN.

Fc dev, can you please remove arcade slaves from the personal attention menu?

It's annoying to scroll through 250 or so mindbroken slaves to get to the ones I actually care about.

>>6576720
Yes, it was probably a clerical error on his part. From what I understand he didn't write the arcade code from scratch so it was sort of frankenstein'd.

I assume he'll fix it by next update.

>>6576719
>Putting recruited slaves in
>Not selling recruited slaves, buying 10 1-2k girls from the first market every turn, and be making 100k a turn after costs just from the arcade.

>>6576726
Too much hassle. That's literally the only reason I don't buy 100 slaves per turn to maximize profits.

Other than that, I concur that this is a great business plan.

The new update certainly make RPing as Satan much easier.

The most economical playthrough is to condemn dozens of innocents to eternal torture while you sit cackling on your throne.

At least now I the Daughters have a valid reason to want me dead, over earlier playthroughs where I cuddled and petted my slaves at every opportunity, and every last one adored me with all their heart.

>FCA comes back
>Sees the current discussion
>Is horrified at the crimes against humanity that he had a role in.

>>6576738
I just hope he doesn't nerf the arcade. I like my concience being the only thing that stops me from going bashit with it.

Perhaps there should be some upper limit after which you get diminishing returns though. I can only assume you can't increase the supply of wallbutts indefinitely without their price falling.

I'm gonna go and say something controversial.

I want to be able to treat slaves with respect. I mean not rape them and treat them well (allowing them to wear decent clothes etc) in order to get them to trust that I was their jackpot. Perhaps persuade a friend to get enslaved by me to avoid being abused. Because I want to betray them cruelly later on. I can't be the only person that wants this.

>>6576716
>tfw a porn game teaches you more about the holocaust than fifty auschwitzes

Honestly FC Dev probably needs to cap arcade profits because there could only so much market for three-¤ fucks and it kinda breaks game balance. Maybe tie it to arcology prosperity so you have increase prosperity so there's more dicks around with owners that would pay for access to the wallbutts.

Also yeah I really reached a new level of evil with this update. At first I was only throwing in criminals and captured attackers but then I was short on cash and I got a random event with a poor ignorant refugee hoping for a better life and she had bad stats so I enslaved her and threw her in the wallbutts. Later I had one of the wallbutts try to escape and I chopped all her limbs off because I was mildly annoyed that I had to pay brief attention to the wallbutt instead of one of my more interesting slaves. Maybe it was the same slave both times, I didn't even pay attention enough to know.

I mean I've done bad stuff in games before, deep into playing JoNT at one point I beat a slave to death out of frustration because she just refused to cooperate and every day of her stubborn bullshit was costing me money, but it's never been so impersonal and petty before. This has been a learning experience for me.

>>6576748
You know how it is. The concentration camp you open yourself always holds a special place in your heart.

>>6576746
I've actually done this bro, it's entirely supported.

Reporting back from my SATAN RUN. It seems like my girls are stuck at 'Extremely unhealthy' eternally after the latest hotfix. Guess I'll have to expand the damn thing to hold these five replacements I had prepurchased on standby. Oh well!

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>>6576746
Good times.

Worshipful slaves don't go into despair when you do horrible things to them, though.

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>>6576749
You know, alternatively you could upgrade the arcade (and I do want to be able to toggle this on or off) and go full arcade, with screens and toys and so on for an inreased price.

>>6576749
>At first I was only throwing in criminals and captured attackers but then I was short on cash and I got a random event with a poor ignorant refugee hoping for a better life and she had bad stats so I enslaved her and threw her in the wallbutts. Later I had one of the wallbutts try to escape and I chopped all her limbs off because I was mildly annoyed that I had to pay brief attention to the wallbutt instead of one of my more interesting slaves. Maybe it was the same slave both times, I didn't even pay attention enough to know.

THE STORIES WRITE THEMSELVES

>>6576472
I usually start off pretty lazy on normal difficulty. I can't offer optimal money-making advice, but if you want a slower, more waifu-friendly game, I did the following on my last save:

The more cash you have, the more money you make every week. Don't burn any on upgrades until you actually need them (except the mercenary stuff)! Also, not personally focusing on a slave increases the amount of money you get every week.

Buy low if there's anything you want. If you get any enslavement events that look like they'll let you turn a worthwile profit, sell high (or very high) after getting rid of the bad traits. I'm not sure how much virginity increases selling price, but don't waste it if you can help it. Not sure if obedience increases sale price, but I usually don't bother.

I had ~8 unmodified cum slaves and nothing else by the time I bought the rival. Compound interest is truly a thing of beauty.

Also, use the rules assistant. It won't make you more money, but when I finally tried it, I found it to be much more convenient than I thought it would be. Remember to exempt your waifus.

>>6576753
I was thinking something in between fearful and obedient. Not fearful because she trusts you won't hurt her, but not obedient because obviously she isn't trained and she's going to get traumatised if you fuck her against her will.

I now want a special status to satiate my treasonous appetite.

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>>6576638
Don't be a pic, dick.

>>6576719
>No training or living expenses required.
But what about food ? What do they...

Oh.

>>6576753
They do, bit by bit, if you throw them in solitary.

>>6575762
Have you thought about making FC open source?
Not to crowdsource content, that would be a clusterfuck, but rather to get help improving the backend?

>>6576782
It is already open source. You can just open it with Twine.

>>6576782
right click FC x.x.x, edit, boom.

>>6576720
>Himmler
>Talking about the concentration camp arcades
I admit, I laughed.

You know what I want? I want an event with that nurse your platoon gets when you raid the sickly refugees.

>>6576818
Her matter-of-factly surrender made my dongle tingle.

>>6576818
Same. I really like her, and it always makes me kinda sad I never see her again.

The female recruit voluntary slave event, anyone knows what are its conditions? I just noticed it in debug, and I don't think it has ever occured in any of my games.

>>6576818
Exclusive skills when? If a given slave had, say, 4 points total (possibly modified by intelligence) to use to learn ranks in combat skill, medical skill, prostitution (not sex) skill and so on, you'd actually have to make some decisions. Respecs could be available for a high price.

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What do you think of the following idea: A simple text game that consists in nothing more than a dungeon, the game starts as you enter and are locked inside, and ends when you manage to get some artifact hidden somewhere within. The ending artifact could be placed in one of several empty rooms randomly at the beginning of the game.

Each room has a trap that must be avoided, or a riddle that must be solved, or a challenge that must be completed, with /d/ undertones. The heroine could have rudimentary attributes such as health, fatigue, arousal/pleasure, sanity and a few counters because counters are always nice.

/d/ thinks the rooms through (because I am so far removed from an ideas guy, I actually have no idea how to end this sentence), I then put them in twine, and we see how creative we can get with something like that.

>>6576906
Make a prototype, and if it's fun, then open it up for collaboration.

>>6576906
Nothing wrong with it, would probably be easy to make in a weekend(although twine is deceptively unfriendly to true puzzles)

>>6576906
You'd need a system where you unlocked new features for new playthroughs to keep it interesting.

>>6576985
Progressively more /d/ as you reach the 'end' maybe?

>>6576990
Er, as you reach endings and replay I meant. So you start pretty vanilla playthroughs and eventually they get fucked up.

>>6576845
Seems like it's just a random event, only requirement is having a head girl?

It's got a pair of matching events- a boy, a girl and a whore.

>>6576990
>>6576994
>the dungeon is a living creature
>as heroines expend energy/get fucked within, it gets stronger
>when the artefact is retrieved, the dungeon reconfigures itself to be more difficult/perverted and spawns a new artefact with greater value/power
>artefacts resemble human females, with features similar to heroines who were defeated and never made it back out

Is there a way to get rid of upgrades in SC? I built a school on a whim, and it is determined to bankrupt me.

Psychosupressors for everyone from now on.

>>6577118
That's actually a good idea. I like it.

>>6577120
What do schools do, even?

>>6576906

It's not a bad idea on the face of it. Whether it's any good comes purely down to execution though. "Enter room, jump through hoop, receive h-scene if you fuck up" is not particularly compelling gameplay, which is easily what this could boil down to. Especially if the dungeon is totally random and the rooms arbitrary.

I mean, you've pretty much described Whorelock's Revenge, and that game is pretty distant from "good". Wandering around a dungeon looking for a MacGuffin is really easy to fuck up.

Does anyone else always buy both the boy and his pimp sister the first time they get that event, only to then pump him full of male hormones, make him the manliest man ever, and let him get revenge on his sister?

>>6577130
>"Enter room, jump through hoop, receive h-scene if you fuck up"

Why not receive h-scene in order to succeed?

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Ok lads, I want your opinions on the plot I'm developing.

Originally it was going to be a rags to riches story, but I decided that was shit so I tossed it and started rewriting it and a bit of the world lore.

The new one is centered a lot more around the character's father. A former political and magical hotshot, he's been demoted and sentenced to lord over some pissant village in a developing province for his unfashionable and outspoken views on reviving Necromancy as a viable branch of practiced magic, mostly to use as a weapon to enact a final solution against orcs and elves, but also because he views magic as his peoples birthright. Necromancy was originally banned because toying around with souls has a corrupting effect on a mage's own soul, to the point where eventually they devolve into power hungry megalomaniacs who think everyone that isn't them is an inferior form of life. Given the potency of necromancy in general, this meant you had a bunch of semi immortal madmen running around the empire who all thought that they should be the emperor, or doing insane experiments to increase their own power. The nobility and peasantry alike in the expansionist xenophobic empire based on slavery was disgusted by what the average necromancer did. So you can see why it was banned and most knowledge of it burned or hidden away.

Upset at being exiled to a political backwater for his views, daddy dearest decides that he's going to take up necromancy and show everyone first hand why he was right. Naturally, he starts going off the deep end almost immediately and things spiral from there.

I want there two be a beginning 'path' that is fairly linear, and then a shift at some point midway in the game depending on whether you've been choosing (for fucking up) dominant or submissive actions that shapes the game from that point.

Also how is my new map. Residential district for the first provincial town.

>>6577135
I've heard worse.

>(for fucking up)
?

>>6577135
tl;dr
needs more dicks

>>6577141
I meant to say (or fucking up). There are some fights that losing, instead of a game over, ends up with you getting fucked and submissive points added. Trying to add a few misleading choices as well.
>>6577142
There will be loads of dicks anon. Both giving and receiving.

>>6577135
I like it when evil empires have things that even they think are too horrible to fuck with. Might be more of a practical consideration in this case, but still.

>>6577118
please god yes.

>>6577133

Because then your reward for success is dicks. And your punishment for failure is...no dicks?

Rape-based games work best for me when rape (or other /d/ things) ARE punishment for losing, but you like the main character and the story enough that you want them to succeed more than you want to fap. Monster Quest and Violated Heroine come to mind instantly.

>>6577157
Porque no los dos?

I mean, you have to do degrading things to win, while losses entail permanent fuckery of some kind.

I definitely agree with you on liking the main character, but I was thinking of this as more of a lazy collab we could do than as a game with story progression.

>>6577157
That's always been the problem for me. "You only get the reward if you fail" doesn't motivate me to actually play the game, but it's not much of a sub/rape game if you only get raped when you win. I've found "optionally do humiliating things to get an edge" to be a decent compromise.

>>6577135
Wait, is the main character male or female?

>>6577135
So.. are you riffing on Star Wars? Or just a generic hate-your-dad theme?