Paul Kupperberg posted about Len Wein’s death on his Facebook.
>>95246292
Damn, now Logan's lost both his daddies
I was trying to find an article to link, but it seems like people just found out so there's no writeup yet.
This sucks.
F
I was just reading a great story from him last night, what a fucking tragedy. One of my all-time favorites.
I've gotta storytime something. This sucks.
militarily WHOM?
Damn.
Rest in Peace.
>>95246292
>I just got the news. We've lost Len Wein.
Well, I hope they find him again.
>>95246292
Shit.
F
>>95246292
Fuck, that dude's behind so many DC classics (as an editor). Rip.
Also first one to post Stan itt is a massive homosexual.
>>95246383
Creator of Swamp Thing and Wolverine. Made X-Men a successful franchise. AMong many other things.
>>95246450
You have to give it like an hour before the Stan joke works to uplift spirits.
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Fuck, one of the greats.
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>>95246358
I checked as well, and there's nothing out about it at all, aside from some twitter talk.
>>95246292
That sucks. I liked his Swamp-Thing.
RIP
Snikt in peace, Bub.
>>95246502
Based on his twitter he'd been in an out of surgeries lately, so it's probably just related to that. Really shitty.
He's going to rightfully be given most credit for creating Swamp Thing and Wolverine, but for my money his biggest contributions were his work as a DC editor, his fantastic Detective Comics stories, and his often unacknowledged work on Perez's Wondie revamp.
Fucking hell. And not even 6 months after Bernie died.
>>95246544
Kek'd check'd and gave my respects'd
>>95246383
Jump off a bridge, /tv/.
>>95246662
Thankfully I am seeing a lot of people reference his time as editor for both DC and Marvel on twitter and on Facebook.
I'll admit that I only really knew him for his part in the creation for certain characters but I had no idea how many classic books and runs came out during his time as editor for both companies.
https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/906998950397440000
i keep forgetting Darwyn Cooke is dead, i only found out about his death like 2 months ago, insane.
HE CANNOT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!
>>95246292
Wait, I tought Stan Lee created Wolverine.
Anyways, Im sad this happened, Rest in peace.
Sticky when?
>>95246454
And Lucius Fox.
>>95247073
Friendly reminder that he got more money from Lucius Fox appearances in the Nolan films than the Wolverine and X-men movies.
>old cavemen with their archaic ideas about comics are dying
Today is a good day
>>95247108
>t. millenial who never buys comics
>>95247134
More like t. false flag trying to bait retards like you. Stop fucking replying.
>>95247094
EXCELSIOR!
>>95247108
i know this is bait but i heard a kid say the same sorta shit when an elderly custodian at ym school died and everyone just piled up and beat the shit out of him. Western millenials are cancer.
Just a reminder: I forgave him for writing a Before Watchmen book, since he created Swamp Thing.
>>95247165
>Literal schoolkid whines about millennials
What a time to be alive.
>>95247193
Did Moore actually say anything about that?
I'm still perplexed by the amount of somewhat appropriate talent attached to Before Watchmen. I mean most of those were big names who could have, and probably should have, said no to that travesty. I was expecting JT Krul's and the like.
>>95247238
>Did Moore actually say anything about that?
No, but most of the creators involved in BW ended up sick or dead.
A tribute to both Wein's original Swamp Thing stories and his House of Secrets in general.
>>95247280
Thank you based Glycon
>>95247280
Wait, who exactly? I know that Cooke died
>>95246292
Bye Len. I was glad you managed to do one last classic Swamp Thing mini last year. RIP.
Dude created wolverine one of the biggest comicbook characters of all time. A true legand in the industry
>>95247193
>>95247238
Wein edited the original Watchmen series, so I don't know about Moore, but he deserved to have some hand in it.
>>95247303
Joe Kubert died not too long after.
but Joe Kubert was also like 90.
and also all people get sick and die, so like...
>>95247291
His Swamp thing is underrated because Moore came in and did one of the GOAT runs. Wein Swampy is still one of the better comics of the 70s.
>>95247238
I imagine it was solely a money thing for most people. You have a book that's not only guaranteed to sell in single issues but probably be reprinted for a very long time. Attaching your name to Watchmen is a good way to guarantee a steady royalty paycheck.
Also I'm sure some of the creators took a less cynical view and were just happy to get to to work on the beloved characters. Not everyone views Watchmen as a sacred cow that should never be expanded upon.
>>95247303
Joe Kubert died.
Cooke died.
Amanda Conner cannot draw pages anymore, only covers.
Straczynski... well, his career is dead.
>>95247332
I was expecting Wein's original run to be generic pulp shit but it was actually pretty neat.
>>95247359
>Amanda Conner cannot draw pages anymore, only covers.
That was the case for her before BW too
>>95247307
Famously he's made less money off of royalties for Wolverine than he has for Lucius Fox. DC's royalty program is so based.
>>95247359
>Straczynski
I'm guessing he will still be a producer for a lot of /tv/ shows. But yeah, his comic career is dead
>>95247359
Oh, and Azzarello's career is dead too.
>>95247334
>Not everyone views Watchmen as a sacred cow that should never be expanded upon.
most people are more mad on Moore's behalf because when Watchmen was created, tpbs weren't really a thing, and DC promised Moore&Gibbons that they would get ownership of the series if the book went out of print.
since then, DC has never allowed the book to go out of print, its also perennially one of DC's best selling books, 30 years later.
>>95247334
Not that it's a sacred cow, but that it's more like a creator owned work than a big 2 book and the creator was being kept away from it in some ways. So it's a bit weird to do quasi against Moore's wishes.
It's not like Kirby tributes where he knew damn well his work was owned and always entwined with the big 2.
The one good thing here is I now know what omni I'll be getting myself after my birthday-- Swamp Thing Bronze Age.
>people still mad about Before Watchmen
>fully on board for Johns' raping of the Watchmen franchise
>>95247401
This is fair and factual
>>95247407
This is delusion
>DC will pay him tribute
>Marvel will not give a fuck until fans get angry enough
>>95247311
He and Gibbons being involved was both incredibly appropriate and sort of odd at the same time.
>>95247401
>>95247407
Yeah, not that I think that it SHOULD be touched, just that there's different views on the subject and not everyone who worked on BW saw it as a dick move.
>>95247394
>Azzarello's career is dead too
he went on to have a rather decent selling Wonder Woman series, and is currently doing an Image book with Eduardo Risso, and hes never really been a dude to have multiple books happening at a time any way.
how is his career dead?
>>95247359
>Straczynski... well, his career is dead.
JMS just went back to TV, he co-created Sense8 with the Wachowskis.
>>95247401
Moore had talked about doing either a Minutemen prequel or an actual sequel at some point. I can't recall if he nixed those ideas simply for not being good enough to pursue, or because of his problems with DC.
>>95247434
Yeah okay bud.
>>95246292
F
Sticky when?
>>95247449
>>95247449
Azz is writing Miller's retarded shit.
>the Wachowskis
Totally dead.
>>95247334
who would be able to make a good take on Watchmen? I can't think of a comic book writer that would be able to. Maybe if I think of novelists, but even there I would have a hard time finding someone
>>95247446
Yeah, if Moore had said "I did what I wanted with Watchmen I don't care at all now." then all prequels, Rebirths, Doomsday Clocks, etc, would be fair game.
>>95247502
How many comics are written like a complex layered novel while simultaneously understanding the nuances of telling a story via panels?
>>95247438
To be fair he left Marvel very angrily and the majority of his career was at DC.
Wein had some really good work on Spider-Man and Hulk and of course was key in rekajiggering X-Men but the bulk of his best work was definitely for DC.
>>95247449
>Sense8
Wait for the upcoming new episode in your favorite porn site!
>>95247438
acknowledging him would mean acknowling the X-men, and marvel dont want that
>>95247506
>>95247407
reminder that Alan Moore wanted to use the original Charleston characters for Watchmen, but DC editorial realized that they wouldn't be usable after the events of the book, and convinced him to create the eventual cast.
anyone who complains about respecting Moore's "creations" needs to remember that he had no respect for the creations of others as evidenced that by and all his bullshit with Lost Girls and LoEG.
>>95247530
I am totally going to get shit on for this butTom King and David Mack are two that understand this.Them on Watchmen may not be good...but it would be interesting
>>95247583
>Lost Girls and LoEG
Public domain, faggot.
>>95247502
Cooke did a pretty serviceable job, even though his contribution was just "Golden Age heroes, but with a secret edgy tweest".
You'd have to have someone who not only had a great appreciation and knowledge of comics history but who was also well-read enough to understand how these characters and concepts look to an outsider. There really is just no one quite like Moore and Watchmen is a work that I think can only come from a guy like him.
>>95247616
so what?
Moore did Work for Hire.
and public domain is bullshit defense for not being to create anything of his own worthwhile.
>>95247604
>Tom King and David Mack
Fund it.Kinghater's butthurt would be legendary
>>95247438
>DC is pushing Swamp Thing a lot
>appears in Injustice
>Marvel killed the X-men books.
>literally killed Wolverine
>rip off versions of the character take his place.
>doesn't appear in the regualr rooster in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite
>>95247583
I agree with this mostly. Watchmen and Moore's circle logic about these things is perplexing. For all his talk about originality almost all of his major works revolve around riffing off of century old stories.
To be fair to the Charleston issue, I don't think he had a problem with that when editorial (Wein I guess?) wanted him to change it, but it was actually after that decision that he modified things even further. I think before that the Charleston Watchmen would have been rather watered down compared to what we got.
>>95247578
his influence was good on the show, the Wachowski's are what brought it down.and the tranny was his idea, evidence of this is that Deleen in B5 was supposed to be a tranny but the voice didn't work so they kept her a girl from the start
>>95247641
t. underage
>>95247616
That post was talking about respect not legalities. Moore is just an asshole. It sucks he got lawyered out of the rights because, but that doesn't make him a good guy.
>>95247438
Next month:
>Stan Lee True Believers Reprint of The Incredible Hulk 181, marking the first Full Appearance of one Stan Lee's Hulk villains, written by Len Wein.
>>95247654
>>95247583
>Charleston
Samefag.
>>95247654
>I think before that the Charleston Watchmen would have been rather watered down compared to what we got.
yea, he got to include all that rape after changing the characters.
wouldn't be a good Moore story without some rape
>>95247691
Actually I'm >>95247654. I have awful spelling so I second guessed myself and copied it from the other post. I guess I should have trusted myself this time. Whooops.
>>95247681
>>95247696
>respect
Says the Moore hater.
>>95247691
autocorrects a bitch my man.
>>95247714
>>95247722
Sure, sure.
>>95247716
I don't hate him, I just accept that being a victim doesn't give you a pass on everything.
>>95247654
>I think before that the Charleston Watchmen would have been rather watered down compared to what we got.
Agreed, a big part of what makes Watchment so poignant is that it shows that you can only take these "serious superheroes" concepts to their logical extremes if you don't have to worry about a shared universe or brand protection.
I forgive Moore for his use of public domain and expy characters because it's something I have a fascination with as well. At his core he's just like any of the other ascended fanboys that got to write for their beloved Marvel or DC, just instead of Marvel and DC Moore is a fanboy for the entire canon of Western fiction.
>>95247291
Swampy and Abby have one of the best relationships in comics rip Lein
>>95247743
>>95247749
>I don't hate him
Too late to backpedal, anon.
>>95247749
I don't like saying he took serious superheroes to a logical extreme. Not to THE logical extreme. The fact that about nobody had powers is the problem here. It's a real world with some oddities. It's not a full fledged Marvel or DC with dozens or hundreds of magical and scientific marvels zipping by.
Also making superheroes "real" as a de facto atmospheric choice is doofy to me. These things should be pulp, fantasy, space opera, and so forth. Anything at all times as the story demands. Experiment with the same cast and story. That's what makes big 2 comics fun. Style isn't set in stone.
Like most people I imagine, when I first read Moore's Swamp Thing I hadn't read the original stories, and this issue was my first exposure to it.
It was odd at first how different it was. But a brilliantly kind /co/mrade secret santa'd me the Roots of the Swamp Thing DC Comics Classics Library collection and instilled in me a love of the original form of Swampy.
>>95247786
How much got retconned for the new 52 anyway? For Swamp Thing or Animal Man they seem to be an odd mix of just being the next volumes picking up after Brightest Day, and being relaunches.
>>95247811
>big 2 comics
>fun
>>95247811
>These things should be pulp
oh you!
>>95247823
I'm very excited for that omnibus. I've never read Swamp Thing. It's one of my last major works to read.
I'm just a bit annoyed that the omnibus will end 3 issues before Moore's run starts.
>>95247854
I don't know who this is or what it means.
F
>>95247867
IIRC some collections of Moore's run start with the first Bissette/Totleben issues of Pasko's run, maybe that's why they did that?
>>95247359
JMS was also legally blind at one point. He had to have some untested surgery to repair his sight
>>95247789
>talking to namefags
There is a reason why God hates Texas, anon.
>>95247981
God only hates Austin
>>95247935
That's the modern way of collecting Moore.
Even then it's an issue or two off.
So I don't know. The omni got too big and the rest of that material would be in a Moore omni they're planning?
I love those expressive eyes on Wrightson's Swampy.
>>95247059
I think he's claimed credit for it. He's claimed Cap as his own in the past I know that much.
>>95246292
F
>>95248062
I'm pretty sure Stan has lost track of which characters he actually created and which are just Marvel characters.
Actually just checked the Amazon page for it and the Bronze Age omni goes right up to issue #19, while Moore starts at #20. So maybe they changed it.
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Well Rip in Peace
>>95248107
Oh wow maybe they did. Brilliant then. I'm just starting to get the Moore trades as I see them in preparation. Swamp Thing, Animal Man, and Hellblazer are my last Big two series to read.
>>95247830
I didn't read new 52 swamp thing but animal man was basically a continuation
>>95247438
>inb4 people use the "but they use his contributions so it's a tribute somehow" BS just like they did with Kirby
>guy was responsible for Marvels most popular character next to Spider-man
>no fucking word at all
fuck those ungratefull faggots
F
>>95246399
Kek
>>95248138
Hellblazer's going to take a very long time if you actually want to read through all of it. The latest trade collects up to #201 out of 300
>>95248138
Oh how I wish I could read those for the first time again. Swamp Thing and Animal Man were what got me through high school along with Doom Patrol and Sandman.
>>95248157
Animal Man had that vibe from what I saw. Swamp Thing I'm very unsure of. Both were clearly planned relaunches from Brightest Day before the new 52 fucked up all of DC. So I'm not sure what's been rebooted or continued from either.
>>95246292
damn,stan lee is gonna outlive all of them
>>95247165
>everyone just piled up and beat the shit out of him.
This makes me happy to hear.
>>95248177
Yeah I know it'll be a beast to get.
I keep an eye out for Barnes and Noble buy 2 get 1 free sales, use a few coupons, and buy factors of 3 at a time. Essentially something like half off when I'm done.
>>95246292
>>95246375
DUDE FUCKING CREATED SWAMP THING
THIS IS A NO BRAINER
THAT ORIGINAL RUN WITH BERNIE WRIGHTSON IS STILL GORGEOUS, AS IS THE ISSUES THATY FOLLOWED WITH NESTOR REDONDO
I'd be really thankful is we didn't clog the thread with a storytime.
>>95248219
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
>>95246292
>>95248239
ALSO PERSONALLY FOND OF HIS HULK RUN
>>95248254
Apologies. It's over now.
F
>>95248235
It's on my list too. Thankfully the trades are far cheaper than anything printed now. Get about 8-10 issues for the price of 6
>>9524705
If you listened to Stan long enough he'd probably take the credit for Kamala and Miles too.
>>95248254
>hating storytimes
this is why /co/ is shit these days
>>95246292
>another one of your favorites die
Goddammit, i wanted to meet him
>>95248362
It's only going to get worse as we get older.
>>95246454
I think he is the creator of every new Giant Size X-Men mutant, including Storm, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Thunderbird and Sunfire.
I dont know if he shares the creation title with Cockrum.
>>95248373
don't remind me, i legit think i will cry myself to sleep when Alan Davis kicks the bucket
>>95248166
They hardly did anything for Jack Kirby. What did you expect?
>>95246292
RIP
>>95248343
your dumb
>>95248420
>>95248254
IT'S A FUCKING TRADITION TO STORYTIME IN TRIBUTE THREADS
>>95248420
>your
>>95248420
>tripfag
need I say more?
inb4 sticky
>>95248405
>>95248166
The companies current creative roster got their comic knowledge from movies, cartoons, and comics no older than 10 years old. They have no sense of the history of the medium.
>>95246292
Can anyone please post his Batman issues ?
>>95248377
It's usually just the creative team that was on the first appearance that gets the credit. Gets weird sometimes though.
>>95248157
The first two or three Animal Man volumes are out of print.
Fuck.
Not as scalper prices, but this bodes ill.
>>95248444
that is you're problem not mine
the thing i'll remember most about len wein is how he used the villain holocaust survivor chimping out and trying to kill himself plotline twice within like six years of each other in batman as a writer and in x-men as an editor
>>95246292
>dad loved his swamp thing
>dad still has the issues of his batman run
fucking hell this one hurts like a truck, i remember reading this stuff when i was 8
>>95248505
How cute trying so hard to troll. Must be a slow Sunday for you.
>>95248644
ignore him anon, please
Literally WHO???
>>95247500
>Azz is writing Miller's retarded shit.
Still not really a "dead" career.
>>95248377
I'd say Nightcrawler is more Cockrum.
>>95248802
he's jewish not white
>>95246383
You have to go back
>>95248813
Nightcrawler was a rejected LoSH, design, iirc, so yeah, more Cockrum.
Too bad about Wein though he did a lot of good work.
>>95246292
>>95248219
>>95248261
>>95246450
Hey now true believers, I thought about maybe just seeing Joan again, but then I thought, what would she want? Joan is the one who told me to make character I'd like. Joan is the one who told me to write the heroes I wanted to write. Joan is the one who held Jack Kirby's wife down while I put it in her ass, Joan would want me to live! So I'm back and I'm hungry for souls True Believers! Excelsior!
>>95248254
What are you talking about? It's a tribute storytime
>>95246292
How is this not a sticky yet?
>>95249244
No idea, but news articles have been rolling in now at the usual places.
>DC tweeted about it
>Marvel has said jack shit
typical
>find out about Len
>go to /co/
>no sticky
shameful
Godspeed, Len. You and Bernie are probably whipping up some primo material in the afterlife and, if so, I can't wait to scrounge the back issue bins when my time comes.
>>95247438
Depressing but probably true
>>95247165
>kids in school
>millenials
uh, no
>>95246454
>Wolverine.
damn. he must have been worth 200 million for creating that character
>>95249573
He didn't say it happened recently.
>>95249582
he got more money from Lucius Fox appearing in NolanBats than all of Wolverine's movie appearances.
>>95246383
>>>/tv/ faggot
>>95249582
He didn't get much movie money, but I don't know about merch.
>>95249582
marvel didn't didn't give him shit.
He made more money from lucius fox than he did from wolverine.
>>95249597
made a shit sarcastic comment but ended up with decent information. Im glad he got something for his work
>>95249615
even /tv/ should know him, and probably /v/
Wolverine is kind of a big deal
>>95249666
they'd know who Wolverine is, but not who created him, Satan
>>95246292
man I was just reading Perez's Wonder Woman the other day, never knew he scripted that before reading it
sticky when
He's crippled his last bitch.
Damn, Giant Size X-Men was one of my favorite comics as a kid. RIP
deserves a sticky. RIP
I just remembered he wrote the Ozymandias story for Before Watchmen.
bumping till sticky.
rest in peace, sir
fuck
Not Lenny!
F
>>95251139
aw man
>>95247020
The industry press glossed over it. They have no real respect for anyone that was considered a part of the old guard. I hope Len gets better treatment than that.
>>95251520
Darwyn Cooke, despite being so loved within the industry, wasn't really that big a name (and wasn't really the old guard either). His biggest thing was New Frontier, which is reasonably popular but never really took off on the same scale as other popular limited series.
Wein, on the other hand, is one of the biggest names in comics.
RIP Length Weiner
Fucking F
>>95251139
Damn he hell be fined himself
>>95246292
Goodnight sweet prince
>>95247432
At this point I've just accepted it as an inevitability. Hopefully it won't suck too hard, If so oh well, guess I'm sticking to Valiant.
F
One of the greatest capes of all time lost a father.
>>95252510
>Wolverine
>one of the greatest capes of all time
also that page isn't even written by Wein
Posting in sticky
Thanks for the sticky mods, he deserves it.
>>95246454
Oh, just capeshit? Right then, back to other stuff.
>>95246292
>'co-creator' of Wolverine
That's a funny way of taking credit from Stan Lee.
>>95246292
I'm honestly not a big part of the comics community, I'm more of a cartoon person, but I know how much this sucks for you comic guys. I send you my condolences.
F
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Is it bad that the only thing I knew him for was his Simpsons work?
>>95248166
They did acknowledge it on https://news.marvel.com/ and ran a remembrance a bit ago.
>>95252734
Sorry, but Stan Lee created the X-Men. Not some minor staff member.
>>95252754
Wolverine wasn't even introduced in X-men
never mind him also creating Storm, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and the other Giant-Size X-men
If dubs Stan dies within two months
>>95252754
Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created the X-Men but Len Wein and Dave Cockrum created the more familiar incarnation and it's most popular member.
>>95246292
posting in a sticky
>>95252790
You've failed to strike him down, anon. Brace yourself -revenge shall come swiftly
>tfw I genuinely liked his swamp thing
Even his new series was a fun read. I'll miss him.
>>95246292
RIP
I'm not a big Wolverine fan, but the man really was an important staple in creating comic pop culture as we know it.
RIP
I've always enjoyed going back to my old Len Wein Blue Beetle comics. They were always strangely fun. I'll have to give them another read as a tribute.
>>95252553
Yeah, I don't have any pages by him on my phone.
Just cause you don't like Wolvie doesn't mean he's not one of the best. He's easily one of the most popular and definitely one of the most used in all of Marvel. Name me another Marvel character that is nearly as fleshed out as he is. Maybe Spider-Man and a couple Avengers but that's about it.
>Stan Lee STILL alive
He can't keep getting away with this!
Fucking who?
>>95253166
Why are you on a comics board if you don't even know who Len Wein is?
>>95253187
>/co/ - Comics and Cartoons
F
>>95246292
Didn't Bernie Wrightson die earlier in the year as well?
>>95253230
>/co/ - Fucking Retards Who Can't Google
>>95253230
>/co/ - MCU and Furries
ftfy
>>95253277
Yup. Poor Alec lost both of his dads this year
>>95246383
mods plz ban
>>95246292
F
>>95253166
>>95246383
I didn't know ether but now that I do I feel like paying respect to the man please stop clogging the thread with this shit and use google.
>>95246292
Well shit. Loved his recent Swamp Thing mini.
God dammit I keep learning about major players in amazing things only as they fucking die.
F
>>95252754
>I literally believe Wolverine was an original member of the X-Men
kill yourself please
>>95254027
>furry
Neck yourself.
Rest in peace, bub. You were the best there was at what you did.
>>95254027
If you don't care, why bother posting? Jackass.
>>95254027
>not to sound like a jackass
you didn't try very hard
>>95246292
Goddamnit, this is some bullshit to hear after I read Swamp Thing, and then this happens.
F
or maybe Snikt?
Dunno.
Still, sad to see him go.
>>95254140
Well, in a scope of /co/, this isn't a very big loss.
>>95254300
You would not be a big loss on the scale of /co/ Len Wein is tho.
>>95253230
Are you being a dickhead on purpose?
Is his Swamp Thing good?
not a fan of capecomics
Was he a talented man?
>>95246292
One of the GOATs...
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-_-7
>>95254374
Yes.
Goddamn I wish people had a little fucking respect. This thread is absolutely clogged with trolls and bait. It's sad, Len Wein was a great talent and deserves a better memorial than this.
>>95254300
or, you are the idiot here. Pretty sure you are in the minority, so it's more likely you are the idiot
>>95254398
Very
>>95254398
you've probably read something he edited, at the very least
>>95254127
>If you don't care, why bother posting? Jackass.
Because they're sad little people and crave whatever little attention being assholes gets them. People who don't care but aren't pieces of shit just move on.
I am glad he is dead
>>95254349
I think you know the answer to this.
>>95254577
why?
>>95254577
Why?
>>95249597
DC does
>>95254689
edgy
>>95254689
>badass
no
>sociopath
maybe
>>95254500
>defending capeshit
>>95254855
You are free to read lost girls and whatever it is you people like just don't waste our time with your shitposting.
>>95247438
I am legitimately angry now
>>95254855
>swamp thing
>capeshit
>>95255122
>a comics creator from the 60s was Jewish
I am shocked. Shocked!
>>95247059
>Wait, I tought Stan Lee created Wolverine.
thinking comes from not knowing
>>95247438
https://news.marvel.com/comics/74107/marvel-mourns-loss-len-wein/
>>95247438
It's true but these have the right of it:
>>95247645
>>95247580
>>95248165
Marvel needs a bullet
>>95247359
>Amanda Conner cannot draw pages anymore, only covers
She cannot handle the pressure of a 22 page schedule and never could. She made up some shit about carpal tunnel syndrome to get fans off her back. Lovely woman but she should have been honest with them.
Fuck, this honestly makes me sad.
F. The man was a fantastic writer and responsible for one of my favorite runs in comic history. He will be missed.
And we thought 2016 was bad.
>>95255199
Already been done upthread, my dude. Early bait gets the worm. Try again with something a little more original.
>>95255186
>Other Marvel characters co-created by Wein include Brother Voodoo, The Golem, Jigsaw, Jamie Madrox, Stegron, Thunderbird, and the Wrecking Crew.
cool, I love The Wrecking Crew
Swampy is one of my favourite characters. You are missed, WolverWein.
https://twitter.com/GregCapullo/status/906996777227833344
Swamp thing mini confirmed
>>95255533
>Swamp thing prestige mini in 2018 or 2019 "confirmed"
ftfy
>>95255533
At least I get more Swamp Thing. Wish he had an ongoing still.
>>95246292
they'll give any old "literally who" cuck bitch a sticky nowadays.
RIP wolverine creator, i hope people will remember your great characters.
>>95248377
Nightcrawler and Storm are both way more Cockrum than Wein.
>>95246292
FUCK NO, FUCKING SHIT NO
The creator de Swamp Thing is dead!!!???
Damn you!! Him was one of the best!!!!
>>95255533
I wonder if Snyder's writing it.
>two stickies in under a month
>both are for complete pseudo-important bullshit
Boo hoo another """celebrity""" in an irrelevant industry died
Surely this is worth having a prolonged shitposting thread because that's special and totally not something that happens every day on here.
>>95256100
He has accomplished more in hos life than you will ever do
>>95256114
>this jock strap sniffing nut hugger
damn swamp thing has always been my favorite. RIP thanks for your work
>>95256100
>irrelevant industry
It's 50% of the basis of this board.
If you don't care... leave? No one is forcing you to be here.
Go fellate your own ego over in /lit/ or /mu/.
>>95256114
>career artist who worked for bare bones wages
>accomplishment
Fuck you got me
Better quit my $76K a year normie career because I'll never compare to this fucking nobody
>>95246454
>swamp thing
literally what is that? wolverine i know, but swamp thing? how is that important at all?
RIP
I know most of the "literally who lmao" posts are bait but the attitude people take to older comics and classic creators is so fucking sad. Nobody has any historical perspective anymore, all that matters is shit from this decade.
If you consider yourself a comics fan and honestly don't know who fucking Len Wein of all people is, who is not just a guy with a couple good works being propped up because he's dead, but a guy who actually is EXTREMELY important to the history of Marvel and especially DC, your reaction should probably be that maybe you need to fucking educate yourself.
>>95256242
Kill yourself, Marvelcuck.
Why is it that when it comes to pay tribute to one of the greatest creators in comics, the thread is slow and small, but when it comes to post the very worst the industry has to offer, the threads hit the limits in a few hours?
RIP Len Wein, you were too good for this shitty industry and their even shittier fans.
>>95256396
/tv/ is a cancer, that's why
>>95256289
thanks preacher anon
Seriously who is this nobody?
>>95256439
>comics are 50% of the board
>is that why cartoons are retarded
I don't think the two are related
>>95256242
Swamp Thing served as Alan Moore's big break into the American market, had a movie adaptation starring Adrienne Barbeau and a sequel starring Heather Locklear, a live action TV show and a cartoon.
But that was mostly in the 80s, and you're 12.
Thanks, preach.
>>95256396
I'm sure it's a lot older than TORtanic but that's when I noticed this entire site became solely about tearing everything down and circlejerking about how cool you are for hating shit. People are here to be part of the next EBIN FAIL, not to discuss good things.
>>95256242
Jesus christ kill yourself, how did you even find this place
>>95256641
spoiler: /co/ is so shit because of people like you
>>95251520
DC did not forget about him, there were memorial pages in the floppies just like there were for bernie wrightson.
Its kinda shocking how short peoples memories are nowadays, Darwyns passing was a pretty big fuckin deal.
A comics legend, a great writer and an editor on many of DC's best comics ever.
>>95246292
William Blatty
Miguel Ferrer
Jan Kruis
Gorden Kaye
Mary Tyler Moore
Richard Hatch
Peter Mansfield
Chavo Classic
Damian
Al Jarreau
The Animal
Jane Roe
Ivan Koloff
Bill Paxton
Tommy Page
Ron Bass
Chuck Berry
Jack Lynch
Skip Williamson
Bernie Wrightson
David Rockefeller
Chuck Barris
Daisuke Satou
Don Gautier
Irwin Corey
John Hurt
Don Rickles
Murphy
Powers Booth
Roger Moore
Gregg Allman
Adam West
George A. Romero
Martin Landau
Chester Bennington
John Heard
June Foray
Jerry Lewis
Steely Dan
Len Wein
>>95256641
Hang out in a shelf thread... I know its posted as being about actual collections but its really just a good thread to talk about comics in general, I feel lost when it bumps off pg10 and doesn't come back for a couple days.
its the /co/ equivalent of a large study room with comfy couches and book shelves all around, ppl just shoot the shit.
http://gerryconway.tumblr.com/post/165203922023/my-friend-len-wein-is-gone-im-trying-to
This is so insanely fucking sad.
>>95256845
Was just about to bring up this mini, which I also haven't read, thanks preach.
>>95256835
Love this mini, hadn't read any actual Wein Swampy before i picked it up in floppy, just Snyder/Soule run... was really cool.
F
He will be missed.
>>95256871
>The world feels like an open wound.
>My friend is gone.
>I’m heartbroken.
It really is.
>>95256851
seconding this. Only rarely is there a troll, which is odd
>>95256999
I had just recently been reading about how Wein, Conway, Starlin, Englehart, Gerber, Wolfman, and more I'm forgetting were all such good friends in the 70's. They just loved making comics so much.
I'm not looking forward to getting to that age where your friends start dying off.
>>95256242
kys
>>95257060
>I'm not looking forward to getting to that age where your friends start dying off.
Jokes on you, I don't have any friends!
>>95256851
The JSA-threads also have some casual discussion going on in them, but they really need to reconsider that outdated name
>>95256851
Shelf threads are the only threads on /co/ worth going into anymore if you want to actually talk about comics. Everything else devolves into political faggotry or memes, including JSA threads.
>>95246292
>Died at age 69
N-nice
who?
>>95256641
>>95256851
>>95257172
>>95257257
>>95246292
So he really is going to bury them all, isn't he?
>>95254398
He's Grant Morrison's favorite comics writer.
>>95255235
she has arthritis, dude
>>95246383
MODS
might as well just fucking off myself at this point
>>95257745
What kind of cold, lonely existence do you have to live to think people discussing comics and actually caring about each others' tastes and opinions is "attention whoring"
>>95257745
>How can one board be this out of touch with it's own site?
this is why we don't want your kind here
>>95257805
Are you some kind of faggot? This board exists for shitposting and sexualizing children/childrens cartoons.
No one actually talks about comics.
>>95257805
>>95257831
anons you are responding to obvious bait at this point
REMINDER THAT LEN WEIN WAS GRANT MORRISON'S FAVORITE COMICS WRITER
>>95251636
My absolute new frontier is still my favourite part of my collection, it's a shame he's not around anymore. I would have done anything for a Darwyn Cooke drawn captain marvel book
>>95246292
RIP. Thanks for all you have done.
>>95257893
It's not bait. I'm trying to get them to justify having a sticky for a run-of-the-mill celebrity passing. So far they haven't explained anything.
>>95257963
t. poorfag
>>95247280
>>95247302
Realistically, though, there was talk on some sites that DC kind of coerces people into working on some projects because they know some may have health issues or whatever and the income (I forget where it was, maybe Comics Beat?) Back when Bleeding Cool still had forums I think it was implied somewhere that Adam Hughes took the job on Before Watchmen to pay for medical bills. And Alan Moore is kind of aware of this. He knows what happened to his friend Steve Moore (who at the time had a brother who had motor neuron disease) and Alan got the insinuation that DC was trying to strongarm him into complying or they'd take away jobs from Steve (who would need the money).
Moore may sound crazy to you, but he is not stupid to curse people who've worked on Before Watchmen if he knew that some creators are on there just because they have no choice. If it was someone like JMS, sure, I could understand on account that JMS had huge success and took shots at Moore in an interview. If he had cursed them then it would just end up causing some horrifying twist like unintentionally causing Grant Morrison's work to completely eclipse Moore's in popularity and literary value for the next century or so. So I'm pretty sure that all that was just a coincidence and not Moore cursing.
>>95258000
Len Wein was a prolific comics creator and an influential figure in comics
that is why there is a thread for his death
>>95258047
So was every literally who animator who has died I'm the last month. Where's their stickies?
>>95258000
You're wondering why there's a sticky for the death of a legendary comics creator on a board dedicated to comics?
>>95258081
name one
>>95258081
You should have made threads then faggot.
The end.
>>95258000
>justify
no one will know or care who you were when you die but that's no reason to project
I met Len a few years ago at Long Beach Comic Con
): sad to see him go
Here's a cameo in Sensational She-Hulk #7 from 1989. Both Byrne and Wein were rabid teddy bear collectors.
Sleep well, Big Enilwen.
@95257963
>/co/mblr
but (You) represent the *real* 4chan I'm sure
>>95258594
Fuck, now I get the reference in the name.
>>95258594
oh, that's really cool. Makes me love this book more
>>95246292
Really sad news, his stories shaped my childhood in a lotta ways. Last thing of his I bought was the Watchmen Dollar Bill spin-off...just a good, solid, entertaining story, nothing too "deep"...Wein was a great storyteller, that's all there is to it. RIP
>>95246341
Swamp Thing too
>>95246292
fuck
F
>>95247645
I think you're way better off not showing up in a modern capcom fighting game to begin with. Fucking awful.
F
>>95247830
Animal Man acknowledged the Morrison stuff and basically nothing else. Swamp Thing literally is a sequel to Brightest day, basically nothing is different.
>>95256100
>irrelevant industry
He has characters in both comics and cartoons. If that isn't relevant, I don't know what is.
>>95259273
he even made the hop to movies for our peaceful /tv/ refugees
>>95259233
>Swamp Thing literally is a sequel to Brightest day, basically nothing is different
pre nu52 Swampy was his own organism which only thought it was Alec Holland but Alec was in heaven
present Swampy *IS* Alec Holland
>>95256320
I can't remember who it was, but like six years ago someone died and they had just thrown all his original art into the street, where it was raining, and some comics aficianado happend to stumble upon it and was aghast at all the comic treasures being ruined and was only able to salvage some of it.
>>95259298
>pre nu52 Swampy was his own organism which only thought it was Alec Holland but Alec was in heaven
Didn't Brightest Day bring back Alec Holland?
>>95256033
That's not true. They'd never give one for you.
>>95256723
> go bite yourself
beautiful
F
>>95246292
F
If it weren't for him and Chris Claremont, the X-Men would just be some obscure characters from the 60s that never caught on.
He also deserves a lot of credit for creating Swamp-Thing and editing Watchmen amongst many others.
This is your fault, /co/.
>>95246292
The good thing about being a creator is that if you're lucky, the characters you craft will always outlive you.
The bad thing about being a creator is that if you're lucky, the characters you craft will always outlive you.
RIP. Thanks for being responsible for some of my favorites.
>>95259700
>amongst many others
The edgelords who post ITT will die well before the age of 69
They might have a few people who knew them by online nicknames that sound like so many others
They will be forgotten in far less time
They had a choice and they made it
Enjoy your (You)s, you fakesJust as we're enjoying watching your posts disappear as foreshadowing
>>95248377
Sunfire is neither of them.
>>95259322
>thrown all his original art into the street, where it was raining
That's an impressive story. Do you have any details to corroborate it since comic book arthas never been drawn with water soluble inks?
>>95259823
Pretty big overreation there.
>>95247830
>How much got retconned for the new 52 anyway?
Pretty much nothing from what i can tell.
>>95259823
wot
>>95246292
rest in rip in pieces of peace
>>95252668
Right back to your /sug/ thread with you.
>>95260115
>>95260060
>>95260145
go back to /oven/
>>95260145
>>95260169
Is it from Badger?
Oh boy, another no body, how tragic.
>>95260184
your bait is both late and unoriginal
>>95260189
Just like Wein
>>95260194
>>95260208
Truly, the best time to be alive.
>>95247786
>big strong fella
>quiet type, introspective
>likes flowers
>outdoorsy
I mean he's a pretty good catch all things considered. I wouldn't kick him out of bed
I left this wretched board years ago but everytime a great dies I gotta come back and press F
>>95256818
>my fiend
CHEEKY
>>95246292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H5zXh6MVvg
hava nagilla hava nagilla hava nagilla have heyah
>>95248107
Swamp Thing Corp? Haha, sounds better than just The Green.
>>95252668
>>95246383
Kek, I love these sort of posts, especially when its something like capeshit. It's like those old videos where people used to gank WoW "funerals".
>>95247446
>"Am I your keeper?"
Oh for fuck's... just have him say "I'll murder you later." why don't you. I thought this suspense was supposed to be SOPHISTICATED.
>>95246292
O-oh, that's a shame
May he rest in peace
>>95247446
Where is pic related from
>>95261128
From this book.
>>95247291
>>95260145
>The answer to violence is more violence
You should really re-evaluate your life, anon.
>>95261513
>getting reported on a taiwanese puppet theatre forum is violent
You're a pussy.
>>95246292
Well shit. Rest in peace.
I must admit I never read Swamp Thing before. Guess it's a good as time as any to do it now.
RIP in Peace
>>95256100
>>95256429
>thanks preacher anon
No problem.
>>95256532
>Thanks, preach.
>>95247359
Conner just did a full issue for The Kamandi Challenge.
I'm guessing DC is gonna do a Len Wein sale for this week
>>95246292
Why are comicbookautors/drawers dying like flies, lately?
>>95262172
because they're getting old, stupid.
>>95262183
>69
>old
Not even for a average american.
>>95262195
Seems like he was sick, his wife was updating his status on his twitter feed. It sounded like good progress, but shit can happen fast.
>>95261467
shouldn't you be getting ready for the shortbus
>>95246292
So is it pronounced wine or ween?
>>95252790
Fool, only trips can take down the LEE
Literally fucking who?
Who?
Whom?
>>95262799
you have likely read at least one story he was involved in (Watchmen)
>>95248504
I just bought em off of instocktrades
>>95247382
>Cain and Abel
>House of mystery
I may have to read this
>>95262841
>responding to memeshitters
Just ignore and/or report, man. This thread is one of the worst "in memoriam" threads I've ever seen here. /co/ is really going downhill.
Thanks Preacher anon for trying to salvage it, at least
>>95263065
No problem.
awwww, it's a comic book guy that seemed cool
>>95246358
Here is an article from Comic Book Resources
http://www.cbr.com/len-wein-wolverine-creator-dead/
He was te definitive Swamp Thing writer for me.
Rest in peace man
>>95248191
>The first story
>I invented murder
Kain and Abel...?
>>95247716
Fuck Moore
>>95264197
Yeah.
Cain and Abel were the hosts of the DC horror/suspense books "House of Secrets" and "House of Mystery."
Decades later, Neil Gaiman reused them in Sandman
>>95246292
Jesus christ, this guy was amazing.
When you think of Morrison, Moore or Claremont, thats fucmimg Weim behind them.
shalom
Damn it... 2017 isn't quite as shit as 2016, but it's sure making a good go at it.
>>95246948
Oh, Neil...
>storytiming shitty scans instead of digitals
>>95265429
Most of the time digital colors are too bright because they were intended for paper that would darken them..
>>95246292
R.I.P.
>>95265429
>wanting recoloured shit
>>95265326
>2017 isn't quite as shit as 2016
Well, that's a matter of opinion. I hate this fucking year so much.
I've never seen a sticky this dead before
Almost like no one cares
>>95262263
I remember he was in a wheelchair at the Wonder Woman premiere and he wasn't looking so hot. Some people assuaged my fears by saying he had just gotten out of surgery, but I guess those ended up being "hell be fine" posts, unfortunately.
>>95266509
/tv/ doesn't care about an old comics creator so they don't shitpost as much
>>95266509
It's really weird. It's not like Wein was some obscure eurocomics guy or an inker/colorist who's only known by industry folks. You have to be an uber casual who only knows the names of current creators or Moore and Morrison to not know who Wein is. This is like not knowing who Karen Berger or Roy Thomas is.
Really goes to show how little historical perspective modern comics fandom has, and how all these people crowing about how they're the "true fans" opposing the SJWs really have only been fans since like 2012.
>>95266509
this thread was shit, for fuck sakes what happened to this board ?
>>95266830
Still applicable though the age of good comics changed in 2016.
>>95266509
Everyone who's big into comics left years ago.
>>95265923
Better than pixellated shit.
Well shit.
F
>>95266203
>WIkihow to put spoons on your eyes
>>95259433
S A V A G E
My tribute to the man.
Rest in peace.
>>95268559
Nice.
>>95268559
Thank you, Alvarez.
Man this one sucks. Definitely a great
F
>>95266880
>I'm totally not false flagging
>>95268559
This is great.
>>95269598
As much as I like Giffen's work, I do enjoy it when the Justice League is actually, y'know, the Justice League.
>>95246902
>>95246662
It's no shame to say that he was a greater editor than writer. He was a good writer but even more important than creating Swamp Thing was hiring Alan Moore to write Swamp Thing. That changed comics history forever.
DC in the '80s was much more daring and sophisticated than Marvel and part of that is people like Wein and Karen Berger who took chances on talent.
>>95270097
>As much as I like Giffen's work, I do enjoy it when the Justice League is actually, y'know, the Justice League.
This.
The end.
I swear to God /co/ has the highest amount of dead people stickies
Is this his doing?
>>95246292
F
>>95266830
I have no idea who he is, but I'm here, with you guys, enjoying his work.
Remembering how different the priorities were back then, and giggling at the ol' stories the kookies used to bake.
>>95266830
>how little historical perspective modern $ANYTHING fandom has
these fucktards think they invented having the first black, female, gay, trans etc. everything because if it didn't happen in their lifetime it simply didn't happen.
I haven't experienced a generation this proud of its ignorance before.
>>95259861
The pages would still have been wet and wet paper mushes up or gets torn.
>>95252754
Why cant anon's on /co/ ever go fact check them selves when someone offers a counter to their beliefs or simply just say "Oh i didn't know that, thanks.", why do you have to be a cunt and disagree like your completely right even though multiple people tell you to check the facts?
>>95274645
Admitting you are in the wrong gives power to the other person over you.
F
>>95266830
Yea check at Reddit. Barely any comments. Modern Fandom sucks.
>>95248046
E M O T E
>>95261821
My all time fave
>>95246818
God I'm still Bummed by bernies death, All I wanted was him to Finish Alive, Alive! I'm hoping dark horse would at least reprint his Frankenstein illustrations book for Halloween or maybe they'd continue Alive Alivs to honor him
>>95271015
Thanks!
here from /fit/, we just lost rich piana
its good to mourn, but make sure to also reflect on all the great things he did :) it helps with the pain
>>95276335
What pain?
>>95276086
You Welcome anon.
>>95268559
Translator's note: "Bub" is literally an abbreviation for "brother." It fits.
>>95268982
> Lee Allred
That's Mike's brother btw
>>95271310
>created by Len Wein & Carmine Infantino
>ruined by Peter Milligan
>>95274872
Said no one with brains, ever