Bojack Season 4 Talkback 3

This season really uped the drama and bat shit craziness by eleven in a lot of the episodes.

Like normally I'd get depressed around episode 11 every season, but holy shit there was so much going on.

Lizard dad is best dad

>>95204871
up to eleven I meant, shit

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>yfw episode 2

>>95204879

Shut up you dumb piece of shit you can't do anything right

Who dropped the F bomb on Bojack this season? Diane?

>>95204747
>The scratched-out face
Bea has been shown to be incredibly jealous of even the chance that Butterscotch might sleep around (Remember all those snarky remarks in previous flashbacks) only to find out not only did he in fact do so but it was also with the hired help who wants to keep the child and to top it all off, Butterscotch didn't have the stones to deal with it himself; he begged her to clean up the 'mess' he made.

But hey, it turns out his comment about her Diamond mark wasn't complete bullshit like she always thought

>>95204898
Bojack. He said "Fuck you, Mom," in episode 5.

>>95204904

Oh shit

>>95204846
Since when was Bojack's mom suddenly the star of the show?

So... this is filler, the season? Like, god was 11 an amazing episode. In general, 7 and up were pretty good. Everything before was kind of... not good.

Specially episode 1 and 3.

>I won't binge this episode, nope, not this time

>Okay maybe one more

>Yeah that one was weird okay maybe ooone moreokayfuckjustWATCHALLOFIT

>>95204930
Bojack's relationship with his mother has been the driving force of the show since the beginning. Show has made no secret everything wrong with Bojack begins with his inability to deal with how his mother treated him.

The fuck is up with the cuck jokes

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>>95204957
>Whoa what a season
>time to go to sleep
>6am

There are just so many things I want to have sex with on this show. And so little time to ask for rule 34 drawn of them.

>>95204975
Get better at art and draw them yourself.

Worst season except for episode 11.

>>95204983

Idk man
Episode 2, 6 and 9 hit me pretty hard

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>>95204975
>That mallard clown
>Honey Sugarman

>>95204846
I liked this season alot. I was worried they would make Mr.PB like Trump, but thank god the election shit was just a catalyst instead for Diane and PB to get a divorce next season. Also, I don't know why, but I cried at the end of episode 11. That scene reminded me of the ending of Big Fish, the fucking goddamn feels man.

>>95204939

I thought episode 1 was good "fun" episode

Anyone got any high quality screenshots from episode 6 and 12 where there's the artstyle shift?

Those were my favorites, and I can't get good quality shots from netflix pausing.

>>95205017
It was a nonsensical garbage which couldn't keep track neither of previous things shown in the show (Peanut Butter show, pasta saving, and dozen other shenanigans which makes people always ask for autographs and be happy he's around) or the joke it was trying to make itself.

If the episode didn't exist, nothing would have changed whatsoever with the episodes that followed except for three jokes which ultimately went nowhere. Episode 1 is the worse of the bunch of the episodes of this season.

Also, i'm really sad that Judah got fired. He was one of my favorite characters and a real fucking bro.

>>95205051
I am disappointed that was the best conclusion they could come up with for that specific storyline they clearly forgot about, for the shallow "resolution" it was given.

>>95205051

Me too. Judah was too good for this world and it's sad Princess never really appreciated him for all the things he did

>>95205064
I agree. Plus Judah was trying to really protect her, he was too pure. And also, I love Diedrich Bader's voice

I appreciate Diane's NPR ringtones

Todd death for season 5 please.

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>>95204846
I just finished the season

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>yfw it's never going to be alright

>>95204846
I was worried Mr. PB was gonna turn into the bad guy this season or be shown as some selfish prick. But in the end, he's still a good boy and best friend.

Granted, he still gets easily manipulated. That's still his biggest drawback and his exes all loved abusing that.

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>Diane sex noises

>>95205044
It had to set the pace, every first episode is family guy quality to lock your expectations in, because its a fucking cartoon after all.

>>95205140
Are you a masochist?

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Whoa another season ends with Diane being a huge bitch, what a surprise!

>>95205142
>tfw you realize cats' paws look like beans
>tfw you realize what PC's special method of keeping time is

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Jesus Christ I'm watching it now and I just finished episode 6, and I poke my head into /co/ with all the skill of avoiding spoilerage as a guy used to doing this shit...

But I am so far very, very, very pensive about the 11th episode. It's been brought up every fuck where. Quick, without spoilers, what should I expect?

>>95205200

You're gonna be fucked up. But this time it's not Bojack's fault

>>95205200
To cry. Every single E11 so far has been brutal.

>>95205142

This episode was honestly too much for me man. She did not deserve to suffer like this.

So then is Bojack going to Nguyen the Dianebowl after all? How would PB react to this, provided they had seperated first?

>>95205182
That's bullshit and you know it. Every single first episode up to now has been a solid if unremarkable, serving as a proper bridge between seasons and setting up the overrall conflict that is to come.

This first episode did none of that.

>>95205200
Cry for the Devil.

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>>95205211
>>95205213

>>95204930
Bojack and his mom have always been a big point in the show. It was never explored up until and I think that was intentional. It made for a great chunk of buildup.

Time's Arrow was hands down the best of the season.

>>95205191
Dude, after episode 11, I want to feel and cry more. This season was fucking fantastic for Bojack.
>>95205200
Fucking feels anon...it's been awhile since a show made me cry like this.

>>95205200
A deeply depressing backstory from one of the character's pasts.

>>95205228

Same as he deals with every issue. Mope a little bit then distract himself with something else, then find another abusive wife that sucks all his joy out if him

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>episode 11
This show has made me depressed in the past, but I was on the verge of tearing up by the end.
Like fuck man, I hate Bojack's dad so much and I'm glad Bojack didn't tell off his mom even tho she was a cunt to him most of his life.
Even though everything nearly comes together by episode 12, it seems only Bojack & Todd have the better end of the stick while everyone else is miserable.
I was hoping for the series to end this season, but now I wouldn't mind a season or two more before it finishes.

>>95205142
>BoJack tells Beatrice that "her whole family" is beside her telling her everything is going to be okay
>tfw he's actually right about that one

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>>95205213
>Every single E11 so far has been brutal.
>I've never really paid attention to episode counts
>Checks to see what all the other E11s have been
Oh.
...
...
Shit.

>>95205083
>>95205092
Judah was a piece of shit who thought he could make the decisions because he was the assistant of the owner. Well it bit him in the ass and PC was absolutely right to fire his ass because you can't trust someone like that.

>>95205142

I'm not sure I can sit through that episode again, not without the illusion everything turns out alright.

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>STOP BEING SO NICE AND PERFECT MR. PEANUTBUTTER THIS MARRIAGE IS SO SHITTY WITH YOU BEING SO SUPPORTIVE OF ME ALL THE TIME AND TREATING ME SO WELL
Is Diane the most insufferable cunt of all time?

>>95205278
PC pls go, you're depressed and taking it out on someone who was looking out for you

>>95205267
Anon pls stop, my heart can't take it

>>95205278
It's ironic the one time Judah showed his emotions and did his best to protect PC, he got bit in the ass for that decision.

>>95205293
I still can't figure out if the creators actually think they are making people feel sympathy for her. I can't even begin to fathom any other purpose in framing her narrative like they do, but they must be aware that "oh woe me, I have everything to be happy but I still can't be, and it's not my fault" isn't really compelling or sensical.

>>95205096
if by appreciate you mean desperate want so do I.

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How THE FUCK Hollyhock ended up with Bea's diamond mark on her face if she isn't Bojack's daughter? They put so much thought on details on this season, I doubt this isn't the equivalent of having your parents characteristics for a horse.

Bojack has Bea's diamond mark and Butterscotch's stripped mark on his nose, well, the nose end of it at least.

>>95205312
The one time PC backstabbed a friend/coworker it bit her in the ass.
They'd actually be ok for each other.

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I can't watch this. My grandmother has dementia, she's in a nursing home and all she does is lie there all day playing with a doll. I don't need to be reminded of it.

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I'm always a sucker for the whole senile character is told a beautiful lie so they don't know how shitty their addle brained existence really is thing, so I was wondering if the conclusion of episode 11 had hit home for anyone else the way it had for me. Good to see it did.

>>95205330
Butterscotch told Bea her diamond reminded him of his mom's.
Just because it's a pickup line doesn't make it automatically a lie

>>95205293
I don't want to sound autistic but I actually can't figure out the last scene between them, am I retarded?

>>95205324
It's with great hope and dreams of self-aware well meaning, intelligent, and wise creators that Diane is actually designed to seem, on the surface, the straightman and the standard woman archetype that's sensible and is liberal, but in actuallity is SUPPOSED to come across as a straight up cunt in personality to discern who actually pays attention to the show and who just goes around listing their favorite characters on Youtube for clicks.

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>>95204846
Yolanda is best girl

I really like how in the opening theme song when bojack drinks the coffee it becomes a colorful kaleidoscope. I thought that was a nice detail.

>>95205330
Butterscotch straight up says Beatrice's diamond is just like his own dead mother's. Bea later thinks he was lying about it to charm her, but it turns out he wasn't.

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>yfw in ep 2 when the flashback/realtime duet starts up

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>>95205255
>Waiting the entire season for that moment of lucidity to tear her a new one
>He's realized it wouldn't change anything by the time it finally rolls around
>Instead he lets the past go and chooses to comfort her one last time
>"You're in Michigan, at the lake house..."

>>95205366
It's a pity it was wasted such a pointless episode. It's like they came up with the idea of the duet first, then the story for the episode second.

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>>95205330
Bojacks dad mentioned her mother, hollyhocks grandmother, had the same diamond.

>>95205339
I work at a retirement home, where we also have a memory care unit. I saw one of the residents feeding and taking care of a "baby" like Beatrice was, it got me wondering...is this an good representation of what happens to people with Dementia? If it is...kill me now, I don't ever want to end up like that.

>>95205342

oh yeah, shit, now thats make sense. I skipped that line, too much going on this season desu, but probably (?) the best season so far. I was looking at Butterscotch white line on his nose and Bojack's thinking "well, wtf?". For a couple of episodes I was sure Hollyhock was PC's daughter for a twist, but the Henrieta twist was so much better.

Damn, that season was brutal. I barely laughed, just felt.

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>>95205366
>yfw episode 6 uses a "time travel" plot device similar to season 2's and the presence of it being correct and canon in season 2 lulls you into believing it's also correct in season 6 and not just in someone's head- until it is.

>>95205346
Think of the end of season 3 where Diane goes rigid when her new boss starts asking what she'd do if no matter how nice and supportive her man is, he just doesn't get it and will never get it.
This is her realizing that. She describes her Belle-room and he thinks it means book props and painted smiley faces on the furniture, not a room for a bookworm. He is a big dopey extroverted dog and while he may bring her joy he will remain completely oblivious throughout.
For someone who wants to be appreciated for her depth, this kills her inside.
I'm not saying she's the hero or she's right, just trying to explain the scene.

>>95205390
Nurse here. I do hospice now and I've done dementia care in the past. There is very much a good representation of dementia. It's sad to watch and it's even worse to see it progress.

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>>95205366
>when the kino kicks in and you cant deal

>>95205384
Which is the first sign of true growth we have ever seen from bojack in all this time. With a bit of luck, the writers will realize character status quo being god doesn't make sense if you want to keep making seasons.

>>95205385
Well it set up Bojack's mother's past and showed Bojack's first steps to improvement. The trust fall and slowly resorting the house.

>>95205387
She also has the same hair as Henrietta. Beatrice implies that it was all a big lie.

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>>95204846
The deepest lore

>>95205390
Episode 11 is a bit dramatic but yeah. It's like you are dreaming but instead of your subconscious picking up that werid thing at lunch you forgot about later its all your younger memories. The whole refering to some random guy as your son thing is basically you sleep walking through life.

>>95205346
No you're not autistic or retarded, anon. The writers are. Mister Peanutbutter is nothing but loyal, loving, and supportive of Diane.
>You kissed Bojack? Oh well, these things happen!
>You want to go to Cordovia? Sure thing, love you honey, stay safe!
>You have actually been home this whole time and were lying to me? It's okay, I know you just needed some space!
>You went to a party and took a bunch of drugs? Well I hope you had fun!
>You said you wanted a ballroom? Well here's a room full of balls!
>This isn't the kind of ballroom you wanted? I'm sorry, I was just trying to surprise you!
>You want to take on a big celebrity and their sexual harassment allegations? I'll support you and defend you!
>You're pregnant and want an abortion? Alright, that works for me!
>You wanted a room like Belle from Beauty and the Beast? Well I made you a room just like it while we were away!
And how does Diane repay him? She gets mad at him for having different political opinions and writes smear articles on him. She gets mad at him for doing nice things for her. She doesn't support him or his ideas. She constantly bemoans how loyal he is and how loving he is towards her and lusts after an abusive shitty broken asshole like Bojack.
She has no redeeming qualities, she is a terrible person and one of the worst characters in any piece of media.
She has a loving, rich husband that would go to the ends of the earth for her, she has had multiple jobs that all are exactly what she wants to do, she has a great house, she lives in the lap of luxury - and she hates it all. She's just a piece of shit. With how "progressive" this show is I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that Diane is genuinely an autist.

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Which one of you was this?

>>95205406
I don't think Diane was pissed the books were fake. I don't think she even realized they weren't real books at the short glance we saw her have before throwing her fit. She's pissed PB did it at all, not that he did it wrong.

>>95205443
>Leaning tower picture is crooked
THAT'S NOT EVEN AN ANIMAL GAG

>>95205427
So? It's a recessive gene. Its how bojack got his fur color.

>>95205390
Dementia isn't loud and dramatic. Dementia is quiet and sad, weak and frail, scared and alone. Beatrice is a pretty good representation of dementia. It is one of the most cruel diseases in existence.

>>95205346

It's a tough scene but I can understand Diane. Just because you fantasized about something as a child, doesn't mean you truly want it. Even if, maybe the sole idea itself was just what made it so fascinating.
Kinda like I always thought about what life wouls be like if I just gave everything up and became like a sheep herder. It's a nice little happy place for yourself but if I had a billionaire friend who bought me a sheep farm because I shared this thought with him and he thought that's what I truly want it would also freak me out. It would be too much, I would lose my fantasy and instead if becoming my own little escape it would be a huge burden.

I dunno that's my take on it anyway, but I can understand with Diane

>>95205433
Jesus, she's still a cunt even in this state.

>>95205443
is that bar tender just Diane's model with a different hair style?

>>95205458

The way Bojack treated his mother this whole season made it all much more tragic. What a trainwreck of sad emotions.

The writer probably has too much family issues, man.

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>>95205433
When she called Bojack "a waste of my husband's jism", the answer was right in front of us

>>95205418
>Well it set up Bojack's mother's past
Episode 11 does it much better even in a vaccum and there's actual advancement

>showed Bojack's first steps to improvement
What first step? Bojack rebuilt the house as a way to ignore his life back in California, and he didn't even do it purposefully, his neighbor was the one who actually got it started; and then proceed to destroy it all because reasons.

There was literally nothing in that episode which is relevant to the overall story, and nothing which advances aanything.

>>95205427
>Beatrice implies that it was all a big lie.
Beatrice believed it to be a lie, which doesn't mean it's actually a lie. We won't know until we get to see Hollyhock's paternal grandmother

>>95205435
And the worse part is the show doesn't seem to want to call a spade a spade and point out she's a massive ungrateful cunt who has provide nothing to the relationship.

HOW THE FUCK DID THE COFFEE TABLE NOT BREAK?

>>95205487
I didn't get that part. Was she pretending to be unaware or was she really unaware?

>>95205435

But that's the point anon. Diane and Mr Peanutbutter just don't fit together on a mental level.

Just imagine all of those scenes you listed being played out with Bojack instead. Or just remember how she interacts with Bojack all the time. Bojack understands her and she understands Bojack. The reason why it doesn't work out between her ans Mr PB is the same reason why Bojack can't stand Mr PB.

>>95205517
she thought he was the maid

>>95205517
She was unaware that Bojack wasn't Herrietta, but i'm pretty sure she didn't know Hollyback was the child that got adopted

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>>95205142
Man, that fucking framing device really had me fooled good. I honestly thought this episode was gonna end on a bit of a high note, or at least a bittersweet one, but not even that.

>>95205521
Diane is just being a regular, westernized asian women.
A friend of mine dated a korean girl and it was pretty much like PB and Diane.

>>95205469
Yeah, I thought I kinda got where Diane was coming from in this way also.

Also Mr PB's whole reason or doing it was to strengthen the relationship and make the house feel like something they shared instead of something he alone had control over, but the way he went about it was to impulsively do it alone without consulting Diane, the same way he does a lot of the things that piss Diane off, and it defeated his whole purpose of sharing it with her by not letting her have control over the situation just for the sake of making it a "surprise."

I still think Diane's reaction was uncalled for, but I guess it was supposed to be a "straw that broke the camel's back" thing and if it'd happened earlier in the show she might've handled it differently.

>>95205521
I honestly can't because go back wouldn't attempt to make her happy, he'd just go down with her in a spiral of depression. They aren't happy together, they understand each other and hate what they see.

>>95205487
I honestly thought that meant Henretta was suppose to be Bojack sister.

>>95205517
She meant Henrietta was a waste of jism in that Henrietta was getting boned by Butterscotch, not that she was talking to Butterscotch's child.

>>95204871
I actually appreciated the slightly more spread out drama opposed to the huge drama bombs. Overall I liked the direction they took this season, I do feel like the governor plotline dragged on a little too long but other than that it was great.

I'm glad it looks like MPB and Diane's actual relationship issues will be looked at in more depth next season.

I'm also glad that Bojack finally seems to be sincerely trying to change and has acknowledged that it isn't an overnight fix and that he's going to stumble. I think having a family member in his life who isn't completely broken really helped him. After all the shit PC went through I'm glad Bojack took the role, and hopefully put some stock into the adoption idea so she can reconcile with Ralph. Despite not caring much for Todd's plotline I was still happy for him that he's worked out more of his sexuality. I'd be nice if him and Bojack could make futher amends but it wouldn't make or break the show for me.

>>95205537
Oh no I knee since ralph stood up for her that fetus was on borrowed time. The framing device was the nail in the coffin, absurd for bojack standards, it even had "future adderall" written on the pills.

>>95205347
If this isn't fully realized, along with Bojack being content with knowing his sister will lead a happy life with a good family while he dies only to be known as "that horse from horsin' around", then...well idk actually.
I just hope this series concludes where Diane gets justifiably shat on as the cunt she is and Bojack is at the least content with the decisions he's made and finds peace in that he's done all he could in life, even if he's well aware that many of his decisions were poor.

>>95205572
And thats bullshit because mpb clearly askes diane if there was anything she wanted when they vr shopped for the house.

>>95205593
Yeah, I kinda knew that the baby wasn't probably gonna make it, but I wasn't expecting everything to just tumble into shit for PC.

>tfw season 5 is when PB will be at his lowest after the divorce
>tfw bojack will have to be the friend that PB was to him many times, with his own style and not bojack it up.

I'm not prepared for it. Tbh. He's too pure.

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>Dogs evolved from scavanger renegade pack wolves that bounded with humans to survive, therefore relying on human leadership to survive
>Mr. Peanutbutter is incapable of leading, and probably all the other dogs in this universe

It's like poetry, it rhymes. Those little subtle details and moments of the anthropomorphic animals keeping the natural characteristics of the animal they are is what makes me love this universe so much.

>>95205612
>implying Bojack won't be busy binge drinking with Diane while Todd tries to cheer PB up

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>>95204846
>PB: Everyone deserves to be loved
>Scene ends. No quip, no eye-roll, not even an "ugh"
Did they have an actual moment?

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>>95205612
He's not going to be able to do it and he'll be secretly smug PB is now down to his level.

Well, that was a pretty mediocre season overall.

>>95205604

Diane didn't want anything new, she was content with the house as is.

>>95204846
My friend just informed me the name of the script PC is given is called "Philbert", which was going to be the name of her baby.

>>95205403

Episode 9 but yeah
Fuck this episode got me even more than ep11

>>95205396

>yfw Bojack's and Hollyhook's births juxtaposed to each other

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>>95205649

>>95205637
Thats about as close to "I will always love you" as a platonic male to male conve5rsrai9n can get.

>>95205593
I can't decide if Ruthie knowing about a B plot that PC didn't know about is an indication that it wasn't PC's fantasy afterall but the actual truth, or if it was a lazy oversight by the writers indicative of bad writing, or if it's just a cartoon, and one that is very aware of its own status as a fictional story at that, and maybe I should just give it a pass.

>>95205293

I thought that Diane has a problem thinking that she doesn't deserves to be happy and have someone like Mr PB. That's what I got from the part that PB wants for them to built the house together, while she wants a house PB is happy with. Like she thinks she only takes and doesn't give anything (she hates her job that she only got because of knowing PC, she wasn't really supportive of the governor campaign, everything in season 2 with her not being in Kordovia; lying about it and getting instantly forgiven ) So she may feel like the relationship is one sided even if she does love PB

>>95205572
>Also Mr PB's whole reason or doing it was to strengthen the relationship and make the house feel like something they shared instead of something he alone had control over, but the way he went about it was to impulsively do it alone without consulting Diane, the same way he does a lot of the things that piss Diane off, and it defeated his whole purpose of sharing it with her by not letting her have control over the situation just for the sake of making it a "surprise."

My only stance on this is, if Diane was open to actually discussing how to rebuild the house when Mr. Peanutbutter initially expressed his desire to have her contribute, so it's equal parts both of their's, while they were still with the designer then it wouldn't have happened. I understand Diane not liking the big gestures but at the same time if she ever gave her input on situations like this then Mr. Peanutbutter wouldn't feel the need to do it. It's strange to me that for someone so opinionated that Diane can't do something as simple as give her opinion on a house design and add her own input.

>>95205649

Well yeah, that's why she wanted to produce it so badly.

>>95205361

OH FUCK
I was wondering what they fuck was up with that

>>95205649
Yes that's why she instantly became so attached.

>>95205339

Sometimea Bojack hits just way close to home.
Bojack telling himself what a piece of shit he is the entire episode and stressing out about every little thing was the episode for me

>>95205647
Except diane was inadvertently pitching her dream room. Its just in mpb to fetch.

>>95205293

She does realize it's her fault though. At least she did when she was on drugs.

>>95205689
>>95205682
I just binged like 5 episodes and I didn't catch or realize it, forgive me

>>95205649

>This project is my baby!
>Well if you don't get a big name for it your baby is dead.

>>95205675

I wouldn't think much about it but I think it was really just red hering. Basically you were expected to believe that Princess happy ending somehow became a result of the Bojack story and hers tying together. I don't even remember if Bojack told PC at the end what he was up to all day and that's why she knew

>The donkey mom and her kids are still working at Bojack's former restaurant
I don't know why I laughed but I did.

>>95205675
I could buy her knowing about the facts of b plot later, but the robot displaying b-plot detected reeked of fantasy. Also knowing way too specfically what pc was thinking and feeling. No the whole future setup was just a signal that "yeah the fetus is dead" at the episode start

>>95205695

I had to skip much of that episode, I jumped to the non-bojack scenes and got out.

Todd is such an asshole. He has become the Tom Yates of the show. He is clearly a Gary Sue. Asexual? The whole subplot about it looks like the writers just discovered the term Asexual. From a scientific point of view, being an Asexual is impossible. Now, someone will reply and say "But I'm Asexual, Anon" No you are not asexual you are just ugly and you tell yourself that it doesn't matter, but deep down you know that you will be forever alone and take your own life in your mother's basement.
Back on the Todd question. He is a shitty OC, Bojack did nothing wrong and Todd is an Incel. His whole character is at fault but the writers still try to make him look right.

P.S. If someone on Netflix is on here, I want you to know I pirated the entire season.

>>95205641
I'm suspecting a flashback scene where bojack tries to talk him out of getting married.

>>95205727
He was in the middle of telling her every detail down to his breakfast

>>95205728
>Bojack's former restaurant
When did he sell the Elefante?

>>95205732
>pirated the entire season
link?

>>95205695
It's not really a personal thing that raises a lot of strong emotions, and I doubt it's a popular opinion, but I thought the whole "thoughts and prayers" episode was a pretty striking commentary on how shallow and removed and unempathetic all the characters were. Like, damn.

>>95205732
Todd is kinda neccessary to ground the drama to keep it from slipping into total nihalism. Thats why he cant have any faults.

>>95205732
Well, yeah, the whole asexual plotline is retarded and pointless, and the fact the writers think they can both have the girl tell Todd to his face she's just going to look for someone else because he can't commit, AND have Todd still bitch about how Bojack had sex with her when she was the one who initiate it all is just disingenous.

>>95205758
thoughts and prayers is pretty much a huge joke on how everytime something awful happens every liberal in california goes thoughts and prayers and goes back to their normal routine.

>>95205732
I'm probably giving the writers too much credit, but maybe the intention was to bring up these characters as innocent and the victims of Bojacks bullshit in the early seasons, but without him in their lives, they're fully realized as broken, or outright pieces of shit who are no better than him, or in some way, need him.

>>95205612
>Bojack will be his friend
>Implying he won't be fucking Diane

It's Bojack

>>95205758
I think it really points out how liberal hollywoo types really really don't give a shit as long as it benefits their agenda. They go thoughts and prayers and how horrible it is but all they do is think about how to use the situation to their advantage.

>the scene where they were actually hoping for another shooting just to boost the movie

>>95205745
I'm pretty sure it was S03 E09.

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>>95205758
I take it you havent spent much time in the west coast

>>95205763

Also especially interesting from the perspective of Hollywood producers because that's what their thought processes are probably are when a mass shooting happens.

"FUCK A MASS SHOOTING. THIS MEANS MY MOVIE IS COMING OUT TO TOTALLY THE WRONG TIME"

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Thoughts?

>>95205784
I don't see him selling it, he just had everyone who worked there leave.

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I always feel numb after finishing the annual Bojack season binge, but much less so this time. I agree with what some other people were saying, the PB governor storyline kinda sucked as did episode 1 and the other couple filler episodes, but honestly I think this season as a whole was the best so far.

Every story line and character to me felt like it had a purpose and somewhat satisfying resolution. I love Hollycock. She's such a comfy character.

Diane has gotten a bit more annoying and dramatic though, I'm imagining with the divorce plot they're setting up she's going to be even more insufferable in the next season which is a shame.

Honestly though, despite how depressing episode 11 was (having known family members with mental illness, my mother most likely going to suffer from dementia in the coming years, grandma going through EST) the ending of the season was the most heartwarming moment of the series so far because it's nice to have a moment where Bojack is redeemed in a sense and he doesn't do something else to make himself an asshole again just to revert the status quo. I want some to make a gif or webm of his smile at the end so I can watch it on repeat.

P.S. Does anyone know the song that plays at the end of the last episode?

>>95205727
>>95205730
Yeah but I think BoJack telling her about his day at the end of the night doesn't add up because I'm pretty sure PC was supposed to be imagining the future framing device during her events in the day instead of afterwards at the end. This is why Ruthie still believed that PC's necklace was from the old country, because PC imagined that part before she found out it was a lie.

The alternative implication is she fantasizes passing on that lie to her future kids and grandkids, but then if that's the case, it gets fucked up because Ruthie tells the part of the story where the gold plating is revealed to PC later.

>>95205796
I'm okay with fracking tbqh

>>95205812
Anyone who tells you fracking contaminates groundwater doesn't know fuck all of what they are talking about. Always remember that, and you won't have to deal with as many idiots.

>>95205796

With Bojack I'm never sure if the writers are redpilles or bluepilled. Could be a "christians are bad people too!" virtue signaling or a "Of course liberal news media tries to relativise muslim terrorism by pointing out how some guy shooting up a mall is christian, even if nobody is really sure if he really was"

Anyway it's not in your face about it anyway and that's why I think a lot of Bojack jokes work

>>95205786
I have not.

>>95205805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tl20WUl0_c

>>95205806

>This is why Ruthie still believed that PC's necklace was from the old country, because PC imagined that part before she found out it was a lie.

Well it could be that she's still in denial about it
I know I was

>>95205831
"muslim kills at open mic night" means he did really well

>>95205859
Wouldn't that have to be 'kills it at opening mic night'?

>>95205841

Thanks, I might have to check out some more of her work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZmhlbGvsmM

This cover is cute as hell

>>95205763
>every liberal in california
And you know, pretty much everyone in the country regardless of political affiliation.

>>95205872
I think they both work to mean did really well?

>>95205762
Todd is a child in every way

His inability to have a healthy adult relationships, his nonsensical tantrums his complete failure to take anything seriously. It's all so tiresome

>>95205340
It wasn't complete lie tho.

Also watch kudo if you haven't already.

>>95205841

Thank you anon

>>95205732
Ugly people get laid all the time you moron. Just because you don't understand asexuality doesn't mean you have to dismiss it.

>>95205883
well this show is mostly about Hollywood liberal types so it's mostly californians

>>95205831
>With Bojack I'm never sure if the writers are redpilles or bluepilled.
Please don't ever share your worthless opinions.

So were they implying incest with Beatrice's mother and brother?

>>95205906
No problem bud, I have been listening to it since I finished so I had it ready to link.

>>95205796
Jokes work on subverting expectations

This means they've basically accepted the idea that everyone believes muslims constantly go on killing sprees, otherwise there would be no joke here

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really hope margo is ok

>>95205910
Asexuality is a desperate attempt to be special without talent or work

>>95205894
See, I don't mind that. Todd, the silly guy who has weird adventures is perfectly fine with me as a character. I have nothing against him.

I do have an issue when he's used to act like the moral high ground when his position is not sustainable. Todd had not entitlement to the girl, and it's clear neither him or her have any interest in trying to make a relationship work, so why berate bojack for their personal failures?

>>95205958
Well, on the bright side, at least he's not pansexual.

So what happened to Ethan and his Ethan Around show?

>>95205293
She suffers from the bojack effect of destroying everything that is good

Just finished the binge.
I am destroyed, as I expected. The tears flowed many times.
But hey. Happy-ish ending.

... y'know, except for Beatrice.

>>95205942
Anon, I think you spend too much time on the internet.
Her son died and she went crazy with grief and guilt, is not out of the ordinary for parents to feel that if their kids pass away before they do.

>>95205910
>Ugly people get laid all the time you moron. Just because you don't understand asexuality doesn't mean you have to dismiss it.
Carl, Can I call you Carl? Carl jacking off and having sex are to different things. One day Carl you will have to grow a pair and hire a whore. Sure you may have to wear a paper bag over your head, but you will not be a virgin with rage anymore. Chris-Chan now has a girlfriend, Carl. Chris-Chan. If he can do it so can you. Give up your fantasy about asexuality. Soon, you will see the light. One day you will lose your v-card and say "I am not Asexual, I was just too lazy/ugly to get laid. My problems are my own." Only then Carl you will finally move out of your parents basement.

>>95205958
There's plenty of talented and working asexuals, anon. It's just a label for a sexual expression (or lack thereof) that people have. It's not hard to comprehend.

>>95205975
At this point, I am almost hoping they don't revisit it, if the other unfinished threads are any indication of what they are going to do with them.

>>95205959
I hope you're not Implying that bojack was in the right to sleep with the girl he liked, because I would hate to see your friends.

>>95205684
I think it was alluding to Beatrice drugging Hollyhock by putting amphetamines in her coffee.
Man this show hit me hard.
>Raised by grandmother.
>Watch slip deeper into dementia.
>Starts treating a doll like her baby
>Her funeral is on Monday.
Seeing Beatrice just made me feel worse.

>>95206003
But why did she kiss his friend?

And of course it's normal for a mother to be grief stricken but she went nuts and ignored her other child and husband. It's like her life revolved around her son. I don't think their relationship was normal.

>>95205942
>>95206003
Well, while I am sure some of do spend a lot of time in the internet, I couldn't help but get the same vibes from the whole thing. That's not the usual Mother-son interactions I have ever seen, and is more akin to a budding romance one.

>>95206004
My friend is asexual and they are married and about to have a baby. Just shut up already.

>>95205998

SOMEONE POST A GIF OF BOJACK'S SMILE ALREADY

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>>95205142
>Runt of the litter
>Job failing
>Multiple dead babies
>Single again
Why do they let her suffer? They better be giving her a win in season 5.

>>95206022
I am not implying shit, I am saying Bojack was completely in the right to not reject a girl he barely knew anything about other than:
a.) Todd knew her.
b.) She wanted to have sex with him.

Specially when he had a long story of rejecting her advances for wacky hijinks. He has no right to be angry if by all indications he was just going to string her along until he could figure out what's wrong with him, and why he apparently could so easily have relationships for the previous 2 seasons but not with her.

>>95205361
>>95205684
>>95206026
Oh damn I was wondering about that, makes sense.

For this season, a lot of answers to things were right in front of us the whole time.

>>95206009
What's easier to believe?

1. A healthy mammal experiences no sexual attraction in spite of a billion years of sex in their genetic past

2. Someone who is looking for something to make them special in the eyes of others says they feel no sexual attraction

I understand what they're saying, and I'm saying they're either lying to be special or have a disorder

>>95206048
>My friend is asexual and they are married
They? There are only two genders, Carl. male and female. Not a "they" him or her.

>>95206056
She's weak, hence why she suffers. Now she is old, she shall suffer more

>>95206048
>>95206048
>>95206048
Not to be that guy, but I think your "friend" might not know the definition of the word asexual.

>>95206056
Her win will be her adopting a kid and coming to realise she can't handle a child like she does her buisness.

This ultimately leads her to becoming a great mom tho.

>>95206072

Says a lot about you.

>>95206048
Wow, so they don't even bother commiting to the label? Way to prove us right

>>95206083
That's he's normal, functioning, and logical?

>>95206083
Like what?

I'm sick of putting up with attention whores?

>>95206030
>>95206032
She must have had mental problems beforehand and the death of her son just set her off. I don't know if there's a good explanation for her kissing the friend outside of being out of her mind and drunk, I think if he had like confused the friend for her son it would be clearer if there was something there to imply.

>>95206083

senpai he's baiting at this point, don't dignify him.

>>95205293
They don't call her Cry-ane for nothing.

>>95206056

>be the only character that wants to help everyone and wants everyone to be happy
>suffer the most from everyone

And to think in the beginning I didn't like Princess because I thought she was your stereotypical bitchy business woman that just terrorizes the MC telling him how useless he is similar to Mr. PB's ex-wifes

>>95206072
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean you have to dismiss it. There are gay peope, anon, being gay doesn't make instinctual sense since you're not reproducing. Is it so hard to believe there are people that just aren't interested in having sex? It's not a wild concept.

>>95206076
Or maybe it's you that doesn't.

Did you guys watch this season at all? I was hoping it would spread some understanding about asexuality but apparently it just went over your heads. Asexual people date and have families. You can eat when you're not hungry. You can have sex for the purpose of procreation.

Man imagine if Todd came out as gay.

Would /co/ be just as mad or just not give a shit.

>>95206121
Gay people have a disorder, though

It wasn't taken off the list of mental disorders because of scientific reasons, it was lobbying from homosexuals

>>95205806

Well events in Bojack episodes aren't always in chronological order.
They often go back in time to a different character's perspective so the story could be a mix of present PC's imagining and end of the day PC piecing things together imagining.

>>95206108
But there's also the fact that her grief was paralleled with the dragonfly who lost his wife.

I really think they were implying incest. When the brother was introduced I didn't even get that it was meant to be the brother at first, he came in like a family friend and their interactions were a bit weird - the dad seemed jealous.

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>>95206150

>>95206145
Depends. Is it going to be handled as heavy handed as the asexual thing, with Todd going to gay social groups while defining all the different aspects of being gay? Or is he going to be the same character, but also gay?

>>95206109
>senpai
I do get tired of your kind coming here.

>>95206108
See, I don't know what specifically signaled the other anon, but it's beyond the kiss for me. The first entrance, the way the mother doted over the son, the way they did the duet, how it mirrors the dragonfly's grief.

If they weren't intending to imply some incetous undertones they sure went their way to give the imrpession

>>95206108
I think she was overwhelmed with grief and that made her desperate for some kind of physical comfort. Her husband wasn't gonna give it to her prolly because he was skeeved out by her emotions so she grabbed the next familiar man she could.

TL;DR Grief makes you do crazy things.

anyone got a magnet link? pirate bay is blocked in my country and i dont want to rip kim cartoons because of their fucking watermark

>>95206217
Have you tried using the search function in qtorrent?

>>95206160
>>95206185
Eh, the theme of the season is family, not love. And it might be hard to believe if you don't have a kid of your own, but the bond between a parent and a kid can be just as strong if not more than a lovers one. Specially since it seems the father was more detached from the family, the kids were drawn closer to their mother. In the 11th episode there's a parallel drawn between Beatrice losing her baby toy and her mother losing her son, his father tells her no to cry because she could end up like her mother.

https://youtu.be/OxZg0eEvdiw

I really liked the Horse with No Name cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1qibZlWS04&t=198s

>>95206265
>Eh, the theme of the season is family, not love.
That's irrelevant to the points being brought up, which I can't help to notice you did not address any.
>And it might be hard to believe if you don't have a kid of your own, but the bond between a parent and a kid can be just as strong if not more than a lovers one.
I have three young daugthers, how does that affect the points brought up about how the structured and presented the interactions between them?

>Specially since it seems the father was more detached from the family, the kids were drawn closer to their mother.
We have no indication of this. All we get from the father is that he was cartoonishly backwards about his view of women, and cartoonishly monied. And that still doesn't deal with the parallels to Ed, the kiss, and the first interaction between the two (in addition to the song in question).

>In the 11th episode there's a parallel drawn between Beatrice losing her baby toy and her mother losing her son, his father tells her no to cry because she could end up like her mother.
I will suggest you rewatch that episode, because you have seemingly completely misundertood what her father was talking about and how it affected her. Her father wasn't talking about the baby, he was talking about her emotions and attachments. Her mother got lobotomized because she couldn't keep her thoughts and emotions to herself, that's the threat her father made.

>>95206390
Of course the father detatched, he was always at work, complimenting his secretary. He wanted to marry his daughter off to a business partner.

>>95206521
I don't think you understand what a detached parent is actually like. It's not a dad who works long ours, it's a dad who has hardly any interest in your well-being. For all his faults, Sugarman clearly cared for all his family in his own twisted way. Lobotomy wasn't done out of spite, and neither was his concerns over proper marriage. Do keep in mind, he was right.

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Whoa, I'm glad Jessica Biel came back with a much bigger role. They were particularly mean with her. She's such a bro.

>>95206390
How can I address those points if they are subjective? You feel like they imply incest with those moments, I felt like they did not. Hell, rewatching it, when the son enters the mother just calls him handsome in the uniform and then they go to play a son on the piano. I don't get how that implies incest.
The whole 'narrative point' of the episode was to show how Beatrice learnt that she shouldn't get attached to her son, because if/when she loses him she will end up like her mother. Hence why she treated Bojack like shit.

> Her father wasn't talking about the baby, he was talking about her emotions and attachments. Her mother got lobotomized because she couldn't keep her thoughts and emotions to herself, that's the threat her father made.
Yes, but there is a parallel made between 1. Beatrice losing her baby doll, 2 Henrietta having to give up the baby and 3 Ms Sugarman losing her son. That's while that part had flashes between all those scenes

>>95205947
>presumed dead
Confirmed for still being alive.

>>95206580
I don't think they had a sexual realtionship, but I got the vibe that her love for him was more romantic than a mother's love for his son.

>>95206575
Saw some video where she complained to the producers that the writers were being too easy on her in earlier pieces and wanted them to really tear into her and her career.

Glad she gave them the go ahead.

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>>95206575

>Calm down, future hard jeopardy question.

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>>95204846
TOMMY SHLOMMEE

A Tale of Two Kitties
can't read the second one
Romeow and Juliette
Purrity (in pink?)
purrmise days?
Consider the Lobster
the big book of Faw---
The Color Purrple
Purrsepolis

anyone able to read the ones i can't make out? it's in the pink cat's office in the first episode

I'm so glad they proved wrong some patterns the redditor fans had made up. The whole "oh-oooh every time somebody says Fuck to Bojack they stop talking to him forever!".

>>95206580
>How can I address those points if they are subjective?
Same way you address all points about fictional media, by pointing out their internal inconsistensies. At this stage you have done none of that, and i am not going to hold my breath until you do.

>The whole 'narrative point' of the episode was to show how Beatrice learnt that she shouldn't get attached to her son, because if/when she loses him she will end up like her mother.
That's not it at all, otherwise the whole "you should make this all be worth it" line wouldn't make sense in the context of her view of the baby, or in the context of the narrative. Even in her talk about Henrietta, the focus isn't on the harm attachment to the baby but on the damage staying with Bojack's father and the kid that forces her to be there has done. The entire point isn't that she shouldn't get attached to her children because she might lose them (she never does), the entire point is the damage her father did to her mother, and the ways it parallels the ways Bojack's father damaged her (a decision she did out of a need to spite her father).

And there's no flashes of Mrs. Sugarman in that whole sequence, nor is there any sequence in the episode where the focus is in the lost of her son, and all to do with the lingering threat Beatrice will get lobotomized if she let's her emotions get the better of her. That third leg of your stool is nowhere to be found, because the focus on the Baby dool-Hollyhock parallels involve an external figure severing the child from the parent for their own good.

Or, put another way, the whole point is that this force separation, this unattachment if you will, is actually harmful for those involved, even if they remain functional afterwards. The loss breaks them, and this continues with every generation.

>>95206580
>they go to play a son on the piano
really makes you think huh?

I hope we get more porn of PC this season. She's the best.

>>95206740
I want to see her naked and crying over her miscarried remains as her barren womb rejects life once again

>>95206740
Her clock is almost done ticking.

I hope they release the soundtrack for this show

>>95206763

As long as her tits are rocking during it, I'm good.

>>95206769

Well, my cock is not yet done fricking.

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I feel as though they missed a big opportunity to bring up Sarah Lynn when it revealed Hollyhock had ODed. Think about it. Bojack parties with his fake tv daughter and sets her down a path that leads her to dying from an OD on drugs literally named after him. He then is accused of putting his own biological daughter down a similar pat, despite being completely innocent and not that bad at taking care of her. He should be crushed that people think he is so much of a scumbag that even after Sarah Lynn, he could do the same to his own flesh and blood. He shouldn't have gone on a binge, but it should have been bigger.

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>>95206722
>Same way you address all points about fictional media, by pointing out their internal inconsistensies. At this stage you have done none of that, and i am not going to hold my breath until you do.

I really don't understand what you want me to argue here. Again, the interactions between Ms Horseman and Crackerjack seem normal to me. He comes in, his father tells him to get ready for the picture and then his mother calls him handsome takes him to the piano and they play a song. The father exasperation doesn't seem like jealousy to me, he is just impatient to get the photo ready since Crackerjack was already late. After that, Ms Sugarman gives him the blanket, which just seems like a cliche of a mother giving her kid something from when they were babies that they don't really need anymore because they still see them as little kids.
The 'incest' part is implied after the son dies. She goes crazy and that's enough to imply she loved her son more than she should? It seems like hysteria to me
> Historically, hysteria was thought to manifest itself in women with a variety of symptoms, including: anxiety, shortness of breath, fainting, insomnia, irritability, nervousness, as well as sexually forward behaviour
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteria

I admit I did get that part wrong, and I do agree that part is about forced separation. I confused it with minutes earlier when Beatrice goes to leave the painting with Bojack. There's a flash of the doll burning and one of Beatrice's mom playing the piano (what we know is that connects her to her son) That indicates that Ms Horseman equals losing her son to being hurt, even before the Lobotomy she could see that there was something wrong with her mother.

>>95206732
Pic related I guess.

>>95206874
Why do you think he had a mini panic attack and flushed all his drugs down the toilet?

The comic Persepolis got a background joke in episode one in PC's office. Neat that comics got a joke.

>>95206145
They just gave us 8 gays in a polyamorous "relationship", they've dealt the full deck of gay cards and alternative lifestyles . Todd will start cross dressing or become a nullo because he doesn't find a point to having a dick he'll never use.

>>95206910
He thought she had gotten into them behind his back. Her doing that is different than giving her the drugs directly. They should have had the memory of happenned to Sarah Lynn be brought up in some way.

>>95206961
It was subtle but it was a callback to Sarah Lynn, otherwise he won't have reacted nearly as bad as he did.

>news scene
>pausing every few seconds to read the ticker
>study finds ticker headlines to be more distracting than informative
How did they know?

>>95206992
Well then subtlety be damned. I wanted full on mini episode 11 level thoughts going through his head.

>Not that I'm pregnant, because if I was pregnant, it'd be bad luck to tell you!
>episode 9 happens

Oh dear sweet Jesus this season goes hard

>>95204983
Best and most consistent season so far.

>>95206538
You can't say the lobotomy was the right idea. Now burning someone's stuff after they've had scarlet fever is the right thing to do, though probably not right in front of them, but he could have explained the need for that. Overall though he was more about the image of a family rather than the substance. Crackerjack's death was terrible for everyone though, that was a big part of how everyone's actions followed.

>>95207108
This anon gets it

>>95207007
They had to be subtle or else it would have been too much, man

>>95207007
Maybe next season? Although it's hard to see where we go from here. Diane and Mr. PB seem to be the only ones with something still to deal with.

>>95207137
Idk the moment has passed so I don't think they could create a situation like that again.

>>95207123
There is notnnearly enough porn of Bojack fucking hollyhock while crying for sarah lynn

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>You don't want to end up like your mother now, do you?
Jesus...

>>95207155

I don't think there is any point in him having a Sarah Lynn episode again.
This entire season was about him dealing with her death and being afraid that he'd fuck things up with his daughter.

It's always gonna be grim reminder of what happens if he goes back to his old way but now it's time to become better step by step

>>95207177
It could have been him being haunted by "ghost of Sarah Lynn and him doing the right thing showing how he has come along.

>>95207177
>It's always gonna be grim reminder of what happens if he goes back to his old way
I've honestly lost count of how many times bojack fucked up. I'm glad they're moving forward because it was getting old. I think they may have made a nice jab at it when bojack wasn't able to remember what the name of the auto asphyxiation guy was.

>>95207210
Nah, too on the nose.

>>95206699
The second one is "Me Meow Pretty One Day".
It's a play on "Me Talk Pretty One Day" by David Sedaris, Amy Sedaris's brother.

>>95204846
I watched up to 11 and stopped. Been up all night and I wanted to rest and make sure I had a stiff drink on hand. I did watch the first few seconds. I guess I really wasn't feeling any sympathy for the evil old bitch. Did like the lolUndertale allusion.

>>95207270
She got really well fleshed out, what happened to doesn't excuse who she is, but it does explain who she is.

>>95205406
This, Honestly I really hated Diane in the last three seasons but something about her development in this season really made me sympathise with her. I love Mr Peanutbutter (Not even kidding he is a cartoon manifestation of everything I'd ask for in a lover) but you are so right, he is kind, loyal and good but that isn't enough.

>>95205637
This was such a small moment in the episode but it honestly may be one of my favourite moments of the season.

>>95207359
Nothing's ever enough for that self-confessed pit of a woman. Mr PB's far too good for her.

>>95205675
Didn't Her and Bojack have a conversation at the end of the day where he listed everything that happened to him in the day? Also didn't she say that she would imagine that at the end of a long day? You could argue that she knew about the B plot because of that phone call with Bojack.

>>95205732
>From a scientific point of view, being an Asexual is impossible.

You're a fucking retard. Just because there is no direct usefulness from an Ultimate evolutionary standpoint doesn't mean that it cannot exist in a proximate capacity.

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>>95205637
PB didn't even say that in his standard overly-enthusiastic clearly feigned tone of voice.
It was real, wasn't it?

>>95207494
He really is a great guy

>>95207176
I still wonder if it was an honest to god threat or if he said it meaning "overemotional and unstable" without realizing the threatening undertones

I mean, it would be the line between an abusive, uncaring and distant dad and a straight up sociopath

>>95205051
>>95205064
>>95205083
>>95205092
He got fired for the same reason princess Catelyn was fired last season
By the way she signed Bojack name in that shit

So, Beatrice's dad was a fucking scumbag and she became bitter about it and a shitty mom. That's the main thing I should take from the character?

>>95204939
So season 1?

>>95205435
>You have actually been home this whole time and were lying to me? It's okay, I know you just needed some space!
Actually he doesn't know that
And you fucking faggots a man that does everything his bitch wants is not a good boyfriend. You have to be assertive or else you come up as weak. PB wasn't a good husband for the exact reason that he never said no.

>>95207832
He said no when she asked him not to run for governor. All I'm hearing is that Mr PB's too perfect. And initially I was expecting him to have some deep dark secret, or to actually hate everyone all the time. But he's a really good boy. Diane just seems to want some misery in her life because she grew up miserable.

That sex with the president of your fan club justification was pretty decent.

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>Show casually inserts a crazy 8 dad family and makes fun of it
>Autists complain at shoveling sjw propaganda
>Show makes a political race between a candidate that has obama posters and a down to earth candidate that "has to be the bad guy sometimes"
>Autists interprent it completly ass backwards and complain about the show slamming gronaldo droompf
Fuck you you fucking faggots, why are you such brainlets and not realise this show isnt sjw you fucks. Stop fitting everything into your narrative.

>>95205989

But unlike Bojack, she just gets away with it with no consequences and you get the feeling the writers want the audience to take her side. That's what makes her so fucking irritating.

>>95205942
I knew i wasnt getting the only one getting those vibes from Honey and Crackerjack
There was definitely something brewing in there

Ok guys who will win the Bojack bowl? Who will become Mrs. Horseman?

>>95207832
He did know, he pretended not to know when they were on the phone but looking right at each other.

>>95207983
_Todd

>tfw no mouse girl from s2

>>95207967
I hate that a mother can't be portrayed as being proud and loving her son without people thinking it's incest. Did you have a bad relationship with your mother anon?

>>95207983
no one i guess, he is actually a horse Toxic and he already know this. so i think he will never be married with others. besides, he has a sister who makes him feeling a responsibility.

>>95206185
>your kind
4chan is open for everyone, deal with it senpai. Also thats the result of filtering " senpai ".

Was Katrina the campaign manager in previous seasons? I don't remember her but the episodes so far make it seem so.

>>95208030
As much as I personally don't think they were incestuous, the way that she remained hysterical a whole year after his passing did seem a bit off. Still being sad and having breakdowns now and then would be perfectly understandable, but the extent she took it to was insane and could very well be interpreted as a hint that she perhaps loved Crackerjack in the wrong way.

>>95207771
Anyone? Just trying to wrap my head around that part. She was also sick and feel pretty far off a ladder to a slide.

>>95207771

Yes. Also her husband was a scumbag. That appears to be the whole width and depth of the character.

>>95208030
Did you even see the fucking episode holy fucking shit its so obvious to anyone
But no you wanna be a humpback bitch and not see whats right in front of you

>Episode 9
FFFFFFFFFUCK
Will Princess ever stop getting shit on? She deserves happiness.

>>95208093
More like don't put too much of your love into something because it'll come back to hurt you. Conversely if you don't put your love into anything you'll end up a lonely bitter old person.

>>95208133
>Narration stops 3/4 through the episode.
I thought the little details about PC's love life were done for humour, but in retrospect how could her great great granddaughter have know those details?

>>95208133
She shot herself in the foot by driving Raph Stilton away. He was the perfect man for her and she blew it.

>>95208133
I hope she gets back together with Ralph and goes through with the adoption, they're absolutely perect for each other. PC dropped the news of the miscarriage on him out of fucking nowhere, of course he wasn't able to handle it at that moment.

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>>95208008
My only problem with asexual Todd is that it torpedoed her chances of coming back.

>>95208206
5 miscarriages. That's too much man.

>>95208205
>>95208206
He wasn't perfect at all times. Like when he took her to meet his parents and they were racist as fuck.

>>95208234

Barely his fault that his parents are shit. Makes him even better for overcoming the prejudices his parents ingrained in him. And he stood up to them in the end.

>>95208234
He stood up to them when they tacitly disaproved of PC though, very aggressively.

>>95208234
He still stood up for her and put their bullshit aside.

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Just finished staying awake all night watching the season and then ruminated on it for about a half-hour.

Beatrice has my empathy, but not my sympathy.

>>95205031
We need video clips of that.

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>episode 6
>too fucking accurate
>trying to keep my shit together
>his daughter inherited the issue

overall I thought it was better than S3 tbqh

PC still my favorite character

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>>95207771
Beatrice's mom was an emotionally unstable madwoman with no self-control that was later lobotomized.
Beatrice's dad was a relatively-emotionally-detached figure that was constantly thinking of his family's image more than his family's stability.
Butterscotch was a tryhard wannabe that romanticized life so much that he acted like a rebel and married a chick he had a one-night-stand with.
Beatrice was surrounded by scumbags and she grew up to be a scumbag.

At one point, I would have said that this cycle of self-destructive scumbags would end if Bojack didn't have kids. But Sarah Lynn was proof that's not the case.

>>95208515
>But Sarah Lynn was proof that's not the case.
And Hollyhock since she had the same low self esteem thoughts Bojack had before she even met him.

>>95208544
Probably because of how tubby she is.

>>95204846
Best season, i loved the little cartoon drawings they did. They are so cute!

The animation is pretty bad.

>>95208544
She'll be fine now that Bojack's content with being her half-brother and won't accidently influence her negatively anymore. Her parents are competent enough to make a good person out of her,

>>95208706
Her dads seem like a bunch of douches.

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>10 minutes into the first episode
>they show a woman wearing a hijab

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>>95208703
Its not an animation driven show, I like good animation and all that jazz but it doesn't helps when you are doing a dramatic show like Bojack.

>>95208736
It's California.

>>95208726
A tad yes, but they seemed more like the standard overprotective dad-archetype times eight to me. They still genuinely love and care for her unlike Bojack's parents.

>>95208703
It is pretty shitty but you end up overlooking it because of the writing.

>>95205732
>From a scientific point of view, being an Asexual is impossible
kys

>>95208775
Shouldn't at least one of them have accompanied her to L.A.? She went with a rape kit and kidnapped the first person she could find attacked to Bojack. She's still a teenager.

>>95208726
thats how gay people generally are
>>95208736
seems like an accurate representation to me

>>95208753
>>95208781
It still warrants being said when an animated work has bad animation.

>>95205732
Being Asexual is fucking dumb and the most first world shit (this is coming from a brown 3rd worlder) ever but statistically you can be retarded or autistic enough not to care about sex. Remember anon, autism is limitless.

>>95206711
But they specifically subverted it. Bojack was gonna use the Fuck You to cut ties with his mom forever.

>>95208821
I agree.

>>95207176
>tfw she ends up just like her mother, with reduced mental faculty, anyway

>>95208821
They sacrificed animation fidelity for a quick turn around in season. Honestly I don't think better animation would get a could return for how much it would cost, Bojack's strength is its writing.

Why is Hollyhock so cute?

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>mfw those """leaks""" from a couple of weeks ago were 100% false

>>95208879
Any particularly odd ones?

>>95208871
She is nice, funny girl who is sometimes sarcastic but never mean for the purpose of being funny. Also horse imouto

>>95208815
Yeah that's a good point, it would've worked much better if she had run away from home rather than them happily letting her travel alone to LA to crash at a complete stranger's house. That was most likely a screwup by the writers though, they still seem like decent fathers.

>>95208903
The only ones I remember are (fake spoilers but tagged just in case) Princess Carolyn being the one to drop the "fuck" bomb and Bojack's mom dying after a heated argument.

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I need these, but I dont know how to screencap netflix

>>95205732
He is the worst character by far

but I guess in fairness his plot line is intentionally not as dark as the others to lighten the mood

>>95208753
u wot me m8
It does help, more animation doesn't mean more cartoony, you know.

>>95209004
Print screen is not enabled on netflix? I've never used it.

>tfw no Character Actress Margo Martindale this season.

>>95208941
She ain't dead yet which I found pretty surprising by the end. Their terrible relationship makes me so grateful for the relationship I have with my parents, even though I found out some Bojack-esque stuff about them recently.

>>95209004
torrent
>>95209027
she's presumed dead on the news
so almost definitely alive

Is next season going to be the last one? I seem to recall the creators saying they wanted to do five seasons but I may have just made that up.

>>95209049
Aside from Diane and Mr PB I'm not sure where they'll go with the next season.

Was anyone else surprised by how relatively apolitical this season was? I was expecting them to lay the politics on thick with the governor subplot but it was mostly just silly antics. Overall I thought season 3 with its abortion arc was more political than this one.