/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

>Durge
>Missed

>>95174413
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How's the Thrawn novel? Should I read it before Season 4 starts? It sounds interesting, but the last NuCanon novel I read had lots of talking and very little action, and I like my Star Wars pew pew heavy.

>>95174811
> pew pew heavy
> a book

>>95174811
The Thrawn book is not very action heavy, but it is one of the most engaging and essential Canon reads.

It could literally only benefit your experience of Season 4, so I would recommend it, even though there isn't a lot of action.

>>95174811
It's a great book, I would highly recommend it.

At the same time though, it's not focused on the type of action you want. There's a lot of politics and a lot of strategy, but not a lot of grunt work. If you want Thrawn related books that are heavy on action, I would recommend picking up the Heir to the Empire trilogy. they aren't canon, but still good and feature Thrawn.

>>95174811
> last NuCanon novel I read had lots of talking and very little action

What was it?

>>95174830

What's your point? Lots of books are heavy on action.

>>95174903
>>95174923

Alright. I'll give it a read then.

>>95174935

Tarkin. It was a good read, but the few action scenes didn't feel that engaging.

I guess I don't mind a novel having little action, but the few action scenes in it should at least be exciting to make up for the slower pace during most of the story, and I felt like Tarkin failed to do that.

Lost Stars is the best YA book published for Star Wars.

Discuss

>>95175231
Nothing to discuss, this is basically the truth.

I have a soft spot for others like Moving Target though. That was a comfy story.

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Is Poe a good comic series? I have heard yes and no from this general and I want some Resistance lore

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Vehiclebro aka Nebulanon back to continue my survey of all Star Wars vehicles that I can identify. I'll be starting on Star Wars Rebels now, but I obviously won't be able to catalogue the vehicles that first appear chronologically in Season 4, owing to the fact that I'm not a time traveler.

The infamous TIE fighter makes its first visual appearance in Rebels, though its' scream could be heard by V-wings and Eta-2s, among other echoes of its design. I'm not totally positive, but it may have appeared in a Rise of the Empire era novel. At any rate they were not widespread til years after Order 66.

>>95175444
Its meh IMO, but it has its moments

>>95175444
just first arc

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>>95174413
>The question mark scar on his fore head is a symbol for the fat that no one knows who he is
Bravo Disney, Bravo

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Post your shipfu

>>95175584
They first appear in Tarkin, where Tarkin himself notes that the V-Wings that were slowly being phased out were vastly superior in his opinion.

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The iconic Imperial Star Destroyer. While I do like the Rebels' Ralph McQuarrie inspired design with the longer neck and slab-sides, I do wish they had updated their model for S3 and 4.

>>95175584
>owing to the fact that I'm not a time traveler
>not even mastering time travel before posting

/swco/ just gets worse and worse

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>>95175722
No. For the love of god please for one thread no

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The Ghost is a VCX-100 class light freighter, and in my opinion, rather overpowered, considering its cinematic competitor the Millenium Falcon. While the Falcon's design was inspired by the B-29 Superfortress bomber, the Ghost took design cues from the B-17 Flying Fortress.

>>95175734
Sorry senpai I'm a pleb, check out my variable-quality taste from the past few threads in the archives. At least I believe I'm promoting some decent Star Wars discussion with my hot opinions.

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>>95175760

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Speaking of American aviation, the Ghost's parasite fighter-shuttle the Phantom I reminds me of the XF-85 Goblins intended to be carried by the B-36 Peacemaker FICON (Fighter Conveyor).

>>95175760
Are you complaining about shipfus in general or the Resurgence class specifically? The latter I can understand, its design is not for everyone, but if you're complaining about the former, consider exactly what you're saying:
>star wars thread
>ree don't discuss star wars things

>>95175877
>tfw you like the Phantom so much more than the Ghost

why couldn't they have just made it x20000 bigger

>>95175877
Your post are informative and are original, but lets do something other than post the same 5 pictures of the same 5 ships in every thread

>Someone post TFA ship, gets called reddit
>Someone posts Venator, everyone creams themselves

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The Imperial Gozanti Cruiser is an up-armored and up-gunned heavier variant of the standard freighter. This version is capable of carrying TIE's as parasite craft. Thrawn's early career in the Imperial navy started on one of these small ships

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>>95175722

>>95175807
>and in my opinion, rather overpowered, considering its cinematic competitor the Millenium Falcon.
No, stop

The Falcon is supposed to be fucking junk.

We should be HAPPY that Filoni has had the balls to create a new "home" ship that doesn't have to dance around the Falcon and pretend like the Falcon is the best fucking ship ever. Fuck the Falcon.

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The C-ROC conversion for Gozantis is commonly used by independent shipping companies and spacefaring businessmen of less reputable nature. This one is the Merchant One of the fat waddling red Chinese crime lord Azmorigan, while Cikatro Vizago owns one without the top engine pod.

>>95175983
I'd be happy if the Ghost wasn't fugly as hell. Great concept, looks like ass. We seriously need more home ships though.

>>95176059
It's a flying diamond, it's practically kino in spaceship form

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The 614-AvA speeder bike is based on original concepts for ROTJ by Joe Johnston and Nilo Rodis-Jamero. Their seating arrangement looks a lot more comfortable than the Aratech 74-z most scout troopers use, but it doesn't look anywhere near as cool.

>>95175983
I'm just saying the Ghost seems to have a lot more cool toyetic features and abilities than the Falcon seems to. I like both.

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>>95175722
>>95175951
>>95175983

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The V-35 Courier is a very 1970s looking hovercar. I was very surprised to see these being driven in TCW and Rebels from an open top behind the apparent "windows" up front.

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The AT-DP (All-Terrain Defense Pod) has been a staple of Star Wars expanded content since Joe Johnston first created it as a concept for ESB. Most renditions give it a much larger "head" than the original drawing, while Rebels gives it longer legs.

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The ST-45 Space Bus is driven by none other than RX-24 "Rex" from the Disneyland Star Tours ride!

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>>95175584
TIE Fighters appear in Tarkin and Lords of the Sith. They're like the F-22 Raptor and F-35 in that they have not been completely integrated yet.

>>95175730
>V-Wings that were slowly being phased out were vastly superior in his opinion
Which is funny because the Empire used TIE fighters to mimic the Separatist droid army. They figured it would be easier to use swarm tactics versus using maintenance-heavy starfighters.

>>95174923
>it's not focused on the type of action you want

Does it show Thrawn's cunning in commanding his forces during battle as an Admiral? Or is it more of a "rise to power" kind of thing?

>>95176118
My question is why is the early Empire using 614-AvA when the is Z4 decades older by Rebels. I mean you see the Jedi using them during the Clone Wars

>>95176398
It's definitely a rise to power story, but Thrawn demonstrates his cunning many times.

>>95175722
Shit
>>95175962
Okay
>>95176136
Patrician

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The ITT (Imperial Troop Transport) is actually based on an original Kenner toy for ANH made way back in 78. Even though it's more or less just a flying brick, I rather like it. Fits the Imperial aesthetic very well, makes a good hovertank (or rather APC) in my opinion.

>>95176426
Really? Where?


>>95175730
>>95176342
Thanks for the corrections I do appreciate them. Feel free to rectify any mistake I make, particularly any instance you can find of me forgetting to chronicle a vehicle you think should be mentioned. Note however that I won't be reiterating previous entries that I already made in the last thread unless they are significantly different enough to warrant it. For example, the jumpspeeders of Sabine in Rebels and Ahsoka in TCW are identical aside from the paintjob.

>>95176398
I would describe it as more political and exploitation of situations than action-oriented. It's a good book regardless. Thrawn has no idea how to handle the politics of the Imperial military.

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I thought the prequels were supposed to show everyone that space politics are fucking boring

>>95175584
Hey welcome back.

>>95176522
>not enjoying space opera politics

Truly the plebbest of the plebs.

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Speaking of toys, a lot of these cheap little first gen vehicles made it into canon in various sources. This MLC-3 here was shown in the UK Rebels comics.

>>95175732
Not a fan of the Giraffe Destroyers myself

>>95176522
This may come as a shock to you anon. You might even want to sit down.

Lots of people enjoyed the politics.

Why do you think one of the biggest complaints people have about TFA is that we didn't see anything happening at Hosnian Prime? Politics have been ingrained in Star Wars for the past 2 decades, even TCW had multiple politics-themed episodes.

It's actually more jarring now when politics are completely ignored (IE; TFA)

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The Lambda class shuttle also appeared in Rebels comics. They were around at least as early as 14 BBY, during the Lost Stars novel. Truly kino design.

>>95175807
What about the Ghost was inspired by the B-17?
Nose guns?

>>95175959
I like these ugly fucking tick-carriers

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Kanan's Joben T-35 speeder is a pleasant little swoop bike with nice coloring. Reminds me of a Harley Davidson.

>>95176600
The turrets and the stepped cockpit placement. Check the late model B-17s to see what I mean, it's got a little barbette on the chin just like it.

>>95176597
What are foldable wings doing on a spaceship?
Who the fuck knows but it looks cool
We can all blame the X-wing's S-foils.

It makes a cool part of Star Wars identity though.
Folding/expanding wings are just STAR WARS

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The Wookiee Auzituck gunship is probably my favorite wookiee design, I don't much like their catamaran fluttercraft, and I'd much rather have seen this used in TCW than Sugi's Halo. Although I'd REALLY like to see what a Wookiee capital ship would look like. Wooden ships and iron men, anyone?

>>95176580
Okay. You didn't have to be so Reddit about it.

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>July/Aug 2009
I wish I had bought more of these magazines when I was in middle school.

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Inquisitorious TIE Advanced v1s also have folding wings for landing, and a missile launcher. I wonder if these will show up in Battlefront 2, but I kind of doubt it.

>>95176720
I don't like that gunship. It feels like a departure from the ornithopter focused designs in RotS

I kinda dug that design. Maybe if that gunship had foldable wings for atmosphere?
I also don't like the regular designed cockpit windows. Maybe they should have had a more organic "grown" look?

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>>95176750
>2009
>middle school

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>>95176490
>Really? Where?

>>95176792
There was a poll last night
Most regulars here are under 25
Which explains a lot

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There was no other mention of Filoni besides this

>>95176792
>I graduated high school in 2014
Gee, time really flies.

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>Skywalker wait, Palpatine is the Sith lord and he used me to get you as his apprentice!

Was that so hard to say?

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>>95176729
>You don't like something I don't like?
>REDDIT
come on

>>95176792
I was probably in 5th grade in 2009, m80

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The Sentinel-class shuttle is one of my favorite designs, I actually like it better than the Lambda. Interestingly, the EU version of it appears vastly larger and fatter and out of proportion to the one that actually first appeared (by release date) in the ANH special edition, which looks far closer to the version used in Rebels.

>>95176818
I just turned 26 and now I feel old af.

>>95176796
Damn son you're right, time for me to list that fucker next post. Thanks for pointing that out.

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So is this magazine still Canon?

>>95176866
The weird thing is that there's an awkward silence for a noticeably long time.
Dooku doesn't even start to speak. Like, I get he's shocked. Sith arrogance is part of the package, it's not all lightning and yellow eyes.
But maybe he should have spluttered something as Anakin chopped off his head

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DELET THIS

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The Aratech 74-z speeder bike apparently shows up in Revenge of the Sith, and I missed it, props to the guy above me for pointing it out. It's my favorite speeder in the franchise, and since I first saw ROTJ's speeder bike chase as a tot it's always been my fondest dream to ride a one of these.

>>95176850
>tickled femi taylor
LEWD!

>>95176580
>Politics have been ingrained in Star Wars for the past 2 decades

Even ANH has the little political scene aboard the Death Star where they talk about the senate being disbanded and the Death Star essentially taking its place since fear will keep everyone in line. I always felt like ROTJ could have used some political talk. Even Heir to the Empire and the rest of the Thrawn trilogy had a lot of politics. Politics has been a part of Star Wars since the beginning, I think people just hate the political scene in TPM because it goes against what people expected from certain characters.

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>>95176935

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>>95176895
>I just turned 26 and now I feel old af.
Trust me, man, it doesn't get any better.

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>>95176818
>Most regulars here are under 25
Well, fuck me. That does explain an awful lot.

>>95176981
Then no, because in the tarkin novel it's stated that Tarkin does know who he is
>personally requested
or sheev is fucking with him

>>95176866
I wish they would have played up the TESB twist a little more. Aboard the Invisible Hand, Dooku could have been trying to get Kenobi to turn dark so they could kill Palpatine together, but then Dooku would be surprised that Palpatine was planning the exact same thing, except with Anakin. Dooku should also have started to spill the beans only to be beheaded by Anakin.

>>95176935
Insider used to have something similar, but it was the medical droid that fixes Luke's hand in TESB that would answer questions. And he was a dick about it too.

>>95176944
Dooku is a classical villain. He knew what he was doing was wrong and he knew he was fucked in all holes at that moment. He knew it was over. There was no begging or crying it was over.

>>95176818
I turn 13 in October

>>95176976
People hate the TPM politics scenes because they don't make any fucking sense.
At least in 1999.

People DO like politics. Look at the earlier season of Game of Thrones. One of the most popular shows on TV and it all hinges on politics.
The thing is that, even though it was a fantasy world like Star Wars, it was presented in a way that made sense intuitively.
So when a clever backroom dealer made some tricky play, everyone could go "Ah, how smart of him. What a devious bastard"
Sheev's actions in TPM were just "O-ok? What's the deal with this invasion? Does Sidious want it signed? He tried to force the Asians to make Amidala do it, but then he tried to get Maul to kill Amidala? Does he want it signed or not? What happens if it isn't? What happens if it is?"
We have no idea about the context the politics are working in.

People like people doing clever things but only when you can see them being clever.

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My favorite TIE, Darth Vader's TIE Advanced X1. Even for a custom badass TIE fighte flown by Anakin/Vader of all people it seems a bit overpowered as to totally blow the fuck out of that poor Pelta frigate Sato commanded so easily. Are there any other appearances of this ship in canon prior to 3-4 BBY when it shows up in Rebels?

By the way I forgot to mention, that Joben T-35swoop bike from before that Kanan uses is named after the swoop racer Thall Joben, a character from the Nelvana Droids cartoon.

>>95176895
>Interestingly, the EU version of it appears vastly larger and fatter and out of proportion to the one that actually first appeared
Since Commander is canon, it can be explained that there are different variations of the shuttles. The Sentinel-Class has a larger variant and the Lambda has a medical variant as well in the game. The "bulge" version is seen. Like in the Rogue One games that carry walkers and supplies.

>>95176976
>I think people just hate the political scene in TPM because it goes against what people expected from certain characters.

Which is bizarre because the whole point of that scene is to show that politics have failed and spur the Queen to take up arms in defense of her planet. It's a pivotal part of basically the only character arc in TPM.

I both love the prequels and don't hate RLM like some around here, but their criticism of that scene has always really bothered me.

>>95177104
>no begging or crying

There's a big difference between begging and letting the cat out of the bag though. And he is quiet for too long, he should have said something.

>>95177077
That'd have been cool
>D: Obi-wan, you are being deceived. There is a power at work behind the Senate
>K: There is someone being deceived. It's you. By the Dark Side
>D: Enough of the petty politics, you must feel that this war is a farce.
>S: Heheh, Master Jedi. Ignore him and free me! There is no time.
>D: Join me and we can restore the Republic to the glory it deserves. It doesn't need to end here
>A: Oh it does, Count
>D: Quiet boy. I've dealt with you once, I'll dea-
>S: Anakin, please!

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The RZ-1 A-wing of Star Wars Rebels is a short and stocky early iteration, a very vanilla basic fightercraft. This interpretation of the A-wing is loosely based on Joe Johnston's fatter shorter concept with the coloring of the famous McQuarrie painting. The A-wing we see in ROTJ is an elongated version of Johnston's design, and the Resistance A-wing of TLJ is almost identical to the very long and narrow McQuarrie painting except the colors are inverted.

>>95177128
>comparing game of thrones to star wars
>saying game of thrones does anything better than star wars at all
>>>/out/

>>95177146
My only quibble about the TIE Adv is that the front looks too much like a regular TIE
If the cockpit was just a liiiitle different.

>>95177289
>>saying game of thrones does anything better than star wars at all
Game of Thrones was good once. It wasn't always as absolutely wretched as it is now.

Don't also forget that it's very popular. It captured the public's attention far more than any of politicking scenes in the Prequels

>>95177128
>People like people doing clever things but only when you can see them being clever.

Wow, you just explained that better than I ever could have. I also hate that Valorum apparently sends the Jedi as ambassadors in secret, but both the Naboo and Trade Federation know about it. Then, when the senate cals for an investigation, Padme doesn't say shit about the Jedi witnessing the invasion and neither do the Jedi. Then, even after Valorum is bascially fired anyway, the Jedi still stay silent about knowing there is an invasion.

>>95177128
None of that is political though. The politics people complain about are not surrounding the treaty and invasion (which are clearly just a sham to cause a mess) but the senate scene where Amidala appeals to the Republic to save her struggling planet and everybody wants to interrupt her and call for a lengthy investigation instead. Nothing about TPM is hard to understand.

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Seeing the first-gen AT-ATs "chase" the AT-TE on Seelos was quite the adventure. Some people say these are designed to look like camels, but for my part, they look like the gargantuan prehistoric rhino ancestor Paraceratherium.

It pains me knowing there'll never be a /swco/ meetup.

>>95177225
The political scene in TPM annoys me because the senate calls for an investigation to see if Padme is telling the truth, but the Jedi already saw the invasion. Now, I understand they were sent in secret by Valorum, but if Padme was already willing to throw Valorum under the bus for being a complete pussy, why not also mention that the Jedi Knights, the trustworthy guardians of the Republic, saw my fucking planet get invaded.

Plus it downplays her arc because at the point of saying fuck it, Valorum is a pussy, she didn't actually have a plan. Jar-Jar just happens to mention later that the Gungans have an army.

>>95177339
Yeah, I've never gotten any of that. The "Why" just never made sense to me.

Like, I get the basic deep down plot. Sheev wants to be chancellor so he manufactures a crisis on his homeworld so he can say the current chancellor can't protect people and that he should be chancellor, with the bonus pity of having his homeworld invaded.
That's good scheming. It's clever and it's obvious how it's clever.

But what we got had layers of unnecessary baggage. Why was the Jedi mission a secret? What's the deal with the treaty? Why try to get it signed then try to kill the people who can sign it?

Do we know if George's scriptwriting was rushed? It feels like he could have gone through a few more drafts

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>>95177415
We got an IRL representation at Star Wars Celebration though

This guy showed up behind a loli while she was being interviewed

>>95177269
Dooku offers his hand in AOTC to mirror (potterize) Vader doing the same with Luke in TESB, except unlike in the OT, it never goes anywhere. George likes to paint in broad strokes, but I feel like he forgets about the little details sometimes.

>>95177415
>pains
Nah, mate.
You should be relieved.
Go look up photos of other board meets. Like /k/s furry meetup

Or if you really want to be horrified, look up reddit meetups. Good lord. I thought they were supposed to be normies

>>95177339
>I also hate that Valorum apparently sends the Jedi as ambassadors in secret, but both the Naboo and Trade Federation know about it.

Because the Jedi were supposed to resolve the crisis under the table.

>Then, when the senate cals for an investigation, Padme doesn't say shit about the Jedi witnessing the invasion and neither do the Jedi

Because everyone is acting out of bounds here. Valorum by sending the Jedi, the Jedi by agreeing in the first place, and the Trade Federation for their illegal invasion. Nobody can legally point any fingers except Amidala, and when she tries the system rejects her, so she goes back to free her planet herself.

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I know it's a fool's hope, but I'd love the beautiful Blade-wing assault Starfighter to make it into Battlefront 2, both Rebels variant and standard. The orange is fantastic, the Rocketeer homage of the episode was kino, and I must be the only person who liked the death-star laser style ion cannon beam of the prototype.

Actually I hope the B-wing makes it into the game period, I was a bit unnerved by its absence at gamescom along with the TIE defender, both of which had been modeled but unusable in BF2015.

>>95177335
GOT was good back when it was a lighthearted HBO action-fantasy-drama series in the 1980s, except that never happened, so it was never good. It takes a hell of a lot to be edgier than real life, but hacks like Martin manage it.

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>>95177499

>>95177519
That's not a fools hope at all though.

The B-Wing, Y-Wing and even Defenders were in the last game as NPC ships. People complained about not being able to play as them, and the Y-Wing is now already confirmed playable.

>>95177335
the show outpaced the books which is 99.998% why it went to shit

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The Shadow Caster is a Lancer-class pursuit craft used by Ketsu Onyo. It has apparent Koensayr design elements, looking something like a Y-wing turned into a flying saucer.

>>95177415
I'd be willing to do one, but the problem is that we're so spread out that it wouldn't be worth it. Would two people meeting at a con qualify as a meetup?

>>95177455
>Why was the Jedi mission a secret? What's the deal with the treaty? Why try to get it signed then try to kill the people who can sign it?

Not only do these issues raise questions that are never answered, but they aren't even necessary to the plot. Maul could have followed the heroes to Tatooine just to prevent them from getting to Coruscant. You don't need treaty BS as motivation. Keeping them from Coruscant is motivation enough.

And as for the Jedi mission being secret, it's not even that secret. The Naboo ask about them so we know they know and Gunray in no way acts surprised that ambassadors are showing up to the invasion so we can assume the Trade Federation knows about them too. (he is only surprised that the ambassadors are Jedi) So why was it secret at all?

>>95177583
I really like this ship. Not sure why.
But I like the look a lot

>>95177499
>/k/'s furry meetup
I don't think that counts. For all we know, it was a regular /k/ meetup and a bunch of people decided to wear fursuits.

Although I'm scared that most of the conversation will be about waifus, and people calling each other faggot, and the 3 anons that brought their $400 lightsabers are dueling, and then one guy comes up with a plate of homemade brownies that whispers w"hat is she" into everyone's ears.

>>95177455
>But what we got had layers of unnecessary baggage. Why was the Jedi mission a secret?

Because the blockade was not technically illegal.

>What's the deal with the treaty? Why try to get it signed then try to kill the people who can sign it?

Because it doesn't really matter what happens. The Nemoidians are the patsies. And they and Maul have orders to return Amidala until she leaves Coruscant, at which point Sheev just decides to test his army and apprentice against them because he's already got the vote he wanted.

>Do we know if George's scriptwriting was rushed? It feels like he could have gone through a few more drafts

He spent longer on TPM than any other prequel.

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>>95177499
BAZINGA

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The awesome Interdictor cruiser is canonized in Rebels based on original Joe Johnston concept art - I am pretty sure it is not the Immobilizer 418 (which is apparently technically canon from a novel, though I forget which) nor the interdictor star destroyer (which might be canon from the Heir to the Jedi novel assuming its not talking about this one). I think someone should check with Pablo or Leland to confirm. This one is much larger than the conventional Immobilizer, being at least 1000 meters long, competing with a Venator, and very well armed. Given the preponderance of flattened surfaces, I suspect it might be a design influence on the Mandator IV dreadnought from TLJ.

>>95177552
You misunderstand, my pipe dream is the Rebels orange B-wing making it in to BF2 complete with converging focus ion laser beam to btfo capships.

>>95177519
>GOT was good back when it was a lighthearted HBO action-fantasy-drama series in the 1980s, except that never happened, so it was never good. It takes a hell of a lot to be edgier than real life, but hacks like Martin manage it.
This isn't the thread for it, so I'll be brief.
ASOIAF was a good series. It wasn't pointlessly edgy as casualness like to describe the show. It subverted high fantasy tropes. You have a prophecy? Well it's not real. Or maybe it brings a villain instead of a hero. The Prince Charming is a bastard. The noble hero gets his head cut off.
It's about subverting your expectations.

I can see a Star Wars fan hating that since Star Wars is so much about embracing the classic tropes and not feeling an ounce of shame

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>>95176136
best canon ship ever

>>95177669
>Because the blockade was not technically illegal.
How does that affect the Jedi? Or Valorum?
If the blockade is illegal, all the better to have big legal dick walking around.

>Because it doesn't really matter what happens. The Nemoidians are the patsies. And they and Maul have orders to return Amidala until she leaves Coruscant, at which point Sheev just decides to test his army and apprentice against them because he's already got the vote he wanted.
Maul attacks the gang on Tatooine, before Coruscant.
It's also a huge deal because Maul is the first Sith the Jedi see in millennia. For all the Jedi know, the Sith have been very dead for a very long time.
It's Maul that gets the Jedi worried about Sheev. Even if their investigation goes nowhere

>>95177742
Except all those tropes were inverted 40 years earlier by The Once and Future King and virtually every scifi and fantasy story since then has been aping it and one-upping it in edginess. It is nothing new whatsoever. It's not even Seinfeld is unfunny, because again, it wasn't creative when it came out, it was the same old shit people had seen before and pretentious aesthetes and edgy teenagers love to jerk themselves off over.

>>95177669

Why does a shipping company have an army? Why does a shipping company that has an army (a "battle hardened" army no less) still get benefit of the doubt in the senate? How did they get battle hardened, they must have done this shit before. Why were the Jedi sent in secret? Why didn't Valorum just assign them to go? Palpatine assign Jedi to do all kinds of shit in AOTC so why is this specific mission different. It seems like Lucas had to make-up a lot of BS redtape in order for the plot to work.

>>95177707
>You misunderstand, my pipe dream is the Rebels orange B-wing making it in to BF2 complete with converging focus ion laser beam to btfo capships.
That's not out the realm of possibility neither.

Vehichles are confirmed to be customizable to alter their visuals and abilities too. They revealed the TLJ Falcon changer with updated cannon attacks and satellite dish as the example.

So it is entirely possible that the B-Wing will not only be playable, but also have an alternate Rebels version with the lasers. Moreso if there is public demand for Dice to add it.

>>95177852
I think you're a tad confused, mate. High Fantasy tropes go back centuries.

Don't confuse subversion of "edginess". Edginess has no rhyme or reason. Subversion is a purposeful acknowledgement of tradition and then a rejection
Things don't just happen for random reasons

Again, not the thread for it. But if you ever can stomach reading the series, Jaime Lannister is unironically one of my favourite protagonists

>>95177797
>If the blockade is illegal, all the better to have big legal dick walking around.

This is my point, apparently there is a reason that an ambassador couldn't just be sent, or the Jedi for that matter, but we're never told why. We just have to accept that Valorum couldn't publicly send an ambassador because he doesn't. We have to fill in the blanks in our head which is never a good sign for a screenplay, let alone a finished movie.

>>95175444
Has its highs and lows

>>95177868
>It seems like Lucas had to make-up a lot of BS redtape in order for the plot to work.
That's the real kicker
It ISN'T needed for the plot to work.
It's just sorta all there.

All it needs is for Palps to manufacture a crisis on his home planet and then talk shit about how Valorum is a limp dick.
Amidala can just be an ignorant sap caught in the middle of grand machinations. She doesn't need to be vital

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The Hammerhead Corvette in my opinion is a far superior design to the hammerheads of KOTOR. I am glad to see these little buggers in the Rebel fleet. Personally I prefer the Rebels version a bit better than the longer combat conversion of Rogue One.

>>95177876
I really appreciate your optimism, I just wish I could share it as deeply as you do. I'm still hyped for what I've seen of BF2, I just want them to do the best job they can.

>>95177961
Goddammit forgot my picture

>>95177961
>The Hammerhead Corvette in my opinion is a far superior design to the hammerheads of KOTOR
Got to disagree a tad on that one
I don't like the "mega-tugboat" look in RO
I'm ok with the petite freighter of Rebels though

I just find it convenient or something that the ship with a bow like a hammer and called "Hammerhead" is actually some kind of space-trireme made for ramming.

It sounds like backwards reasoning from the name

>>95177632
>And as for the Jedi mission being secret, it's not even that secret
The mission was not a secret, the Jedi being there was.

>>95177797
>How does that affect the Jedi?
The Jedi aren't supposed to be there and Valorum wasn't supposed to send them.

>If the blockade is illegal
No, it IS legal. Nute says it at the start of the movie.

>Maul attacks the gang on Tatooine, before Coruscant.
I'm well aware of that anon. Maul's orders are to return to the Queen BEFORE she gets to Coruscant. When she gets there Sheev plays her like a fiddle and has no use for the treaty anymore.

>It's also a huge deal because Maul is the first Sith the Jedi see in millennia. For all the Jedi know, the Sith have been very dead for a very long time.
Yes, which is why the council sends the Jedi back with the Queen.

>>95177868
>Why does a shipping company have an army?
Presumably because Sheev gave them to them. This is a dry run for the upcoming war.

>Why does a shipping company that has an army (a "battle hardened" army no less) still get benefit of the doubt in the senate?
No one but the Jedi can confirm that they have an army and the Jedi aren't supposed to be there.

>How did they get battle hardened, they must have done this shit before.
That's nitpicking.

>Why were the Jedi sent in secret?
Because Valorum wanted a quick end to the crisis. The Jedi were supposed to strongarm the Nemoidians into giving up the blockade, which was technically legal.

>Palpatine assign Jedi to do all kinds of shit in AOTC so why is this specific mission different.
The only thing he assigns them to do in AOTC is protect a senator from assassination.

>It seems like Lucas had to make-up a lot of BS redtape in order for the plot to work
Well that's the point isn't it? The Republic is all about BS redtape keeping anyone from doing anything to justify having action scenes.

>>95177991
>I really appreciate your optimism, I just wish I could share it as deeply as you do.
Fair enough.

I'm mostly optimistic because all the stuff I want has already been confirmed or "confirmed" via leaks or developer comments, and a lot of it was underrated stuff like re-canonized vehicles or non-movie characters, so things like B-Wings and Rebels versions seems quite likely now.

Don't get your hopes too high of course, but I think the game is mostly going to be satisfactory and full of goodies for the fans to play with.

>>95177415
We should wait until Star Wars Land or the Star Wars Resort opens so we can autistically harass the twi'lek dressed employees

...cant there be multiple hammer head designs in canon?

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Cheap cut-down Mining Guild TIE fighters. Not very good, not a surprise the Empire sells em.

>>95178021
Since the name hammerhead has been in use for 15 years, I assume they thought that "hey, when all you got is a hammer, that star destroyer starts looking awfully a lot like a nail"

>>95178098
Yeah, of course.

>>95177929
It's unnecessary and would have caused even more complaining about politics than there already was!

The plot of TPM is that a Queen is trying to free her people, the politics are in the background except for one scene to show that the Republic is corrupt and failing.

>>95177963
>All it needs is for Palps to manufacture a crisis on his home planet and then talk shit about how Valorum is a limp dick.
>Amidala can just be an ignorant sap caught in the middle of grand machinations. She doesn't need to be vital

But that's what the movie is about...
I would love to hear your version of TPM.

>>95177963
This brings up something I never really paid much thought to before. No one really complains that TPM was too kiddy or too political. They complain that it tried to be both. If George would have A) Just made a simple movie with stuff that you piece together later or B) a political movie with lots of stuff going on TPM would have been fine. But instead we got half-cocked ideas about political subterfuge alongside a cartoon alien and neither of them played out to anyones expectations. I like TPM, but it's biggest flaw is going from a scene where Jar-Jar steps in poo to heated political debates. You can't put both of those in the same movie.

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The roughly 450 meter long Quasar-Fire class cruiser-carrier proudly continues the heritage of Imperial Space Triangles. This first appeared in the rather dreadful EU novel The Truce at Bakura, where it was unceremoniously destroyed. Sato's end in Season 3 was much more glorious.

>>95178098
If we're being honest, the CR-90 and Crucible are hammerheads.

>>95178126
>I like TPM, but it's biggest flaw is going from a scene where Jar-Jar steps in poo to heated political debates

It's one scene, and it's only there to give Amidala a reason to stop playing by the rules and go to war. The political stuff is all in the background otherwise. Kids have no problem understanding the good guys and bad guys are.

>>95177252
What good would it have done? He personally maimed, killed, genocided and pledged allegiance to the Sith. What could possibly Dooku say in this situation? What benefit would it have?

>>95178080
>>>95177632 (You)
>>And as for the Jedi mission being secret, it's not even that secret
>The mission was not a secret, the Jedi being there was.

So Valorum could have sent a normal ambassdor and everything would have been fine? When is this said?

>Why does a shipping company that has an army (a "battle hardened" army no less) still get benefit of the doubt in the senate?
No one but the Jedi can confirm that they have an army and the Jedi aren't supposed to be there.

Panaka mentions them having an army before they invade so clearly them using their security droids as infantry is common knowledge, otherwise why include it as dialogue. The point of dialogue is to convey information the audience last I checked.

>How did they get battle hardened, they must have done this shit before.
That's nitpicking.

No it's not. Once again, dialogue is used to convey information to the audience. Those words were picked for a reason.

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The TIE/sa Bomber/Boarding Craft is another of my favorite TIEs. Love that they're being treated right in Rebels in Battlefront 2. Love that they've got roomy interiors to carry a bunch of troops, they used to always be portrayed as barely enough room for the pilot.

also please cease this
>secret=/=illegal
nonsense, we've heard it before

>>95178189
>It's one scene, and it's only there to give Amidala a reason to stop playing by the rules and go to war. The political stuff is all in the background otherwise. Kids have no problem understanding the good guys and bad guys are.

Yeah, but things like character motivation and other more complicated aspects of a story go right over kids heads so they never stop and realize that something weird is going on either.

>>95178119
>But that's what the movie is about...
>I would love to hear your version of TPM.
But it wasn't.
What we got had layers of bullshit on top of it
Like the fact that the Jedi's ambassadorial mission was a secret (so important that it's in the crawl) but we never know how or why and we're left guessing.
Or the constantly mentioned treaty bullshit
It's a fucking blockade/invasion. What the fuck is a treaty supposed to do
>I, regent of Naboo, hereby declare that I love my planet getting fucked in the ass. I want all trade to stop. I want nothing to leave or nothing to enter. Thank you, Trade Federation. I love you.
What the fuck is that?
All we know about this treaty is that it makes the invasion legal. And that's not enough.
The TF were apparently upset about taxes (from the crawl) so I guess the invasion was meant to bully the Republic into lowering taxes, but if they made the invasion legal, how were they going to strike fear into the hearts of all the other planets who voted against lower taxes?

Look, I'm sure some autist or another will excuse this shit one way or another, but my main question is WHY. Why bother? Why did George make it like this?
He didn't need to. And that lack of need is why TPM is so flawed.

>>95178216
>What good would it have done? He personally maimed, killed, genocided and pledged allegiance to the Sith. What could possibly Dooku say in this situation? What benefit would it have?

Dooku was just betrayed by his former master, he should have said something that went along with his character.

Is Dooku upset? Then he could say "Anakin listen..." and then Anakin kills him before he can spill the beans.

Is Dooku still a Sith at heart and respects the fact that Palpatine has outdone him? "If you kill me, I'll only became a martyr" And then Anakin still kills him.

I'm not saying he should have tried to run thru the whole Kamino conspiracy, nor am I trying to sound like a gifted screenplay writer, but myself and others clearly find it weird that he stays down there on his knees and neither does or says anything for several second while waiting to do. Hell, he could even have stood up straight so he could die with dignity. It was a good chance for a character moment and instead we got nothing.

>>95175708

We know who he is, though.

Space Dracula from outside the galaxy.

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A space triangle in multiple dimensions! The as yet unnamed Imperial Cargo Ship is a bulk freighter that I personally really like as far as space big rigs go.

>tfw try to foster intelligent and polite discussion but the thread is hijacked by complaints over prequel """""plot holes"""""

>>95177499

I love the massively diverse /pol/ ones.

>>95177490
>George likes to paint in broad strokes, but I feel like he forgets about the little details sometimes.
I think George's main problem is that he loves cool things. You can see him in all the BTS stuff running around the artist department like a kid in a candy store.
He loves cool looking aliens and space ships and all that kind of shit.

That's why his plotting can be a little weak. It's all just stage floor dressing. The main attraction is the "cool shit".
Like all the ships we've been seeing these last few threads

>>95178383
what is this from? Rebels?

What planet is that?

>>95178383
Not one person has said "plot-hole" As soon as someone thinks an aspect of Star Wars is dumb you all immediately try to make it sound like we mean it's a plothole. It's a tired strawman on /swco/ and I'm calling it for what it is before it gets mentioned again.

>>95178424
This is unfair, George talks extensively about the little details and the importance of the stories he is telling.

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>>95178354
>Hell, he could even have stood up straight so he could die with dignity. It was a good chance for a character moment and instead we got nothing.

Yeah, all we get it this face for about a minute.
I like the standing up straight idea. That seems really Dooku to me. The "game respects game" aspect.

>>95178449
Talk is cheap.

>>95178228
>So Valorum could have sent a normal ambassdor and everything would have been fine?
Of course not, because the point of the Federation being there in the first place is to cause a crisis for Palpatine, so nothing would have been fine. But the reason Valorum didn't send normal ambassadors is because the red tape would have gotten them nowhere.

>When is this said?
It may not be outright stated but it's implied by the crawl and the fact that the Nemoidians are expecting ambassadors.

>Panaka mentions them having an army before they invade so clearly them using their security droids as infantry is common knowledge, otherwise why include it as dialogue. The point of dialogue is to convey information the audience last I checked.
You know what, I'll give you this one. There really is no reason to assume a communications blackout means an invasion.

>>95178277
>It's a fucking blockade/invasion. What the fuck is a treaty supposed to do
It's the equivalent of a female friend with a no-good boyfriend showing up to lunch with a black eye and saying she totally just fell down the stairs.

Had the treaty been signed Palpatine would have taken it to the senate as evidence that the Republic is obviously corrupt and the Chancellor is doing nothing about it.

>The TF were apparently upset about taxes (from the crawl) so I guess the invasion was meant to bully the Republic into lowering taxes, but if they made the invasion legal, how were they going to strike fear into the hearts of all the other planets who voted against lower taxes?
The Trade Federation itself may be rightly upset about the taxes but Gunray and his lackeys are just being bullied by Sidious.

>Why bother? Why did George make it like this?
To show that everyone is corrupt. That's the point. What would you have done differently?

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>>95175722

I like it.

Seems like it'd be a comfy posting, as long as heroes are nowhere near you.

was george really so autistic that he couldnt have had 4 movies in the PT?

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RZ-1T A-wing Trainer, a 2 seater, invented for the sole purpose of giving Kanan and Ezra a device to get to Maul's hideout simultaneously because the Phantom was destroyed in the previous episode.

>>95178433
It's from Rebels, episode 219, The Forgotten Droid. Don't know the planet though.

>>95178383
>>tfw try to foster intelligent and polite discussion but the thread is hijacked by complaints over prequel """""plot holes"""""
I like you, mate, but you're a little touchy about the Prequels.
I think we're having a pretty amiable discussion about the Prequels, as far as discussion about the Prequels go. No one's told anyone to go back to /reddit/ yet.
We all like Star Wars, but we don't need to pretend it's flawless.
Your mockery of the "space triangle" motif surely denotes an ability to take the piss out of something while still loving it, right?

Anyways, I do like that cargo ship a lot. A tad big for my taste, but I like it
Star Wars is littered with "freighters" but we never see them hauling loads. It's good to finally see one actually doing its job

>>95178471
That face is hilarious. I understand that Lee didn't want Dooku to start sobbing and instead take it like a man, but that look makes him look surprised, which kind of makes him seem stupid. If he was expecting a betrayal and was hoping to betray his master first, but failed, he should have just accepted it, stood up straight, and waited for the final blow,

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>>95178502

>>95178474
None of this is said in the movie. You're pulling these reasons out of your own head canon.

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Villainous imperial fighter ace Vult Skerris flies a TIE /int Interceptor in Rebels. The Rebels version carries the standard white hull color from ANH props, but I prefer the blue hull of the ESB/ROTJ props.

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>>95178526
Dooku should have been more like this guy.

>>95178502
Do you know how numbers work?

>>95178556
Perfect example. Thank you for understanding what I mean. "I've been outsmarted, but I knew what I was getting into when I started to play the game."

And goddamn do I love that movie.

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GR-75's are finally confirmed to have the cockpit in that little antenna pod on top in Rebels. I'd like to see how comfy the inside of the hull is, if at all.

>>95178474
>There really is no reason to assume a communications blackout means an invasion.
A COMMUNICATIONS DISRUPTION CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING - INVASION

>>95178518
>implying I'm mocking the space triangles

>

>>95178618
BEST ship

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The Phantom II is a heavily modified Trade Federation Sheathipede shuttle taken during the escape from Agamar. It is noticeably absent during the Battle of Scarif.

>>95178618
>A COMMUNICATIONS DISRUPTION CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING - INVASION
I've been bitching about TPM all this thread, but god damn, I love this line for some reason
Fucking Sio Bibble

>>95178613
>And goddamn do I love that movie.
Me too, buddy
It's pretty divisive, but it's fucking good for what it is.
Soundtrack is absolutely 10/10

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The YT-2400 is a pretty bitchin space truck. It was first developed for the ANH special edition which was then used for the Shadows of the Empire multimedia project.

But reminder, Dash Rendar, aka Non Solo, is NOT CANON.

>>95178730
>>95178673
I don't agree but I respect your opinion. The clamshell design is iconic and definitely novel. Apparently they do actually carry some light weapons and can act as picket ships, they're not totally unarmed.

>>95178552
>None of this is said in the movie
Because it's not really necessary. The movie is ultimately about space wizards protecting a queen and fighting evil robots. You could make a damn good case about why that aspect wasn't compelling enough, but that's an argument for another day.

>You're pulling these reasons out of your own head canon
It's only logical if you think about it for a second. Let's lay out Palpatine's original plan, before the Jedi got involved.

>Federation are pissed about taxes
>Sidious coopts a couple of Federation goons to legally blockade his home planet under this reasoning
>Ambassadors show up, go home because the blockade is legal and the Federation won't budge, this keeps the senate mired in debate about taxes like the crawl says
>Federation invades and forces Amidala to sign the treaty
>Invasion is illegal, but the treaty makes it "legal"
>Palpatine goes to the senate with the treaty and says "Look at this bullshit, my home is suffering from invasion because you retards won't stop arguing about space taxes long enough to see that a legal invasion by way of treaty is retarded! I call for a vote of no-confidence!"

Then the Jedi show up, Sheev tries to stick with the plan by first having them killed and later having Maul retrieve the Queen, then she comes to Coruscant and decides to plead her case to the senate, and he realizes that having the struggling Queen call for the vote would look even better.

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>>95177339
>>95177339
>>95177517
>>95178277
>>95178474

How can an invasion be legal? Its act of war, and as far as I know the Trade Federation made no declaration of war, that would make it a war crime. But if they're a private company can they declare war? Do they have diplomatic immunity to pull shit like this?

And how would signing a treaty make an invasion legal? If North Korea invaded South Korea and if the South Koreans signed a treaty does that mean South Korea's Allies can't intervene? What's to stop Naboo's space ally from sending a proper military to deal with the tradefeds?

What would the treaty say? "These guys have the right to invade us so don't stop them ok? I want them to invade." because then its not an invasion, hell I don't know what it would be at that point.

I'm not nitpicking per say I'm just really confused now that we're talking about it in detail and want to know if you guys know.

>>95178781
>hating on Dash

He's not Non Solo, he's Jock Solo. You're making it really hard to like you, guy. It's a good thing you're so fond of Venators.

>>95178781
>It was first developed for the ANH special edition which was then used for the Shadows of the Empire multimedia project.

Come on now. We all know it was designed to be Dash Rendars ship and George liked it so much he put it in the 97 special edition.

>>95178790
I'm asspulling hard here, but maybe George wanted to create a future advanced civilization where even warfare was strictly a bureaucratic process?
>Planet ABC has filed for a war on Planet XYX
>Passed, so long as causalities are below 60%.
There are lots of sci-fis with such arrangements and George was a reader.

But I think that may have been lost in his rewrites. As it stands now, it's messy and the "treaty" business should have been cut entirely. But so it goes

>>95178784
Where did this information come from?

TPM? No, it came from you. It's head canon. Lucasfilm could easily contract a book that contradicts everything you just said.

>>95178790
It's just a device to have the stupid Nemoidians do something stupid while thinking they're safe from legal ramifications, it's obviously bullshit.

Vehiclefag will you get up into the ships exclusive to the LEGO shows?

>>95178180
I thought there first appearance was in Rebellion?

Snoke is obviously going to life drain somebody to become young and handsome again, but who?

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The wonderfully recanonized TIE Defender accompanies the wonderfully recanonized Grand Admiral Thrawn. It's tough to say whether either will survive Rebels; Thrawn's TIE project is already on the chopping block in-universe in terms of Imperial priority. I am inclined however to believe that Thrawn will survive Season 4, and the Empire's rejection of his Defender Project or else the theft of it without credit will cause him to abandon his allegiance.

>>95178849
>implying

>>95178823
hey Pablo Hidalgo invented the term, not me, I'm not a hater, but I'm not too sad to see him go

SOTE was a comfy as fuck novel desu


>>95178926
no, because they're not canon :^)

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>>95178967
>lego star wars isn't canon
Why even live

>>95178967
The TIE Clusterfuck

>>95178899
>Where did this information come from?
At least half of that comes from information given in the movie. Sheev's original plan isn't spelled out for the viewer but that's the point, he is the titular Phantom Menace.

>No, it came from you. It's head canon
It's reading between the lines. Movies ask you to do this sometimes,, as George himself will attest. I'm sorry Star Wars has trained you to expect every single little thing to be spelled out in strictly "canon" materials, but much better movies than TPM have gotten away with vague plots and fan debates for years without anyone crying "not canon!"

>Lucasfilm could easily contract a book that contradicts everything you just said
Let me know when they do! I'd love to hear their reasoning.

So I decided to read TFA novelization.

You know how everyone hated Star Killer base because it's size and the costs involved don't make sense when the FO is supposed to be smaller than the Empire.

Besides it being Death Star 3.0, people also hated how it worked as a weapon, the physics sounded "retarded" and what not.

But I did some basic lazy googling, and well.

>Quintessence is a hypothetical form of dark energy.
>Phantom Energy is a hypothetical form of dark energy.
>it would produce a "big rip" that would go "through hyperspace".

Just found it cool that it wasn't based off of total bullshit pulled from their asses.

Thoughts on this?

>>95178967
>hey Pablo Hidalgo invented the term

Pablo makes it really damn hard to like him sometimes as well...

>>95178471
>>95178354
>standing up
>when he's in incredible pain from having his hands cut off
>when he has two plasma swords that can cut through planets near his neck
I'm in the opinion that Dooku died perfectly in character. He realized from the beginning he was played like a fiddle. And again, there was nothing he could do or say. It was over.

I'm having a hard time imagining him saying anything of value or importance. Anakin and Obi-Wan were done negotiating with him after all his crimes.

>>95178967
just wait till Naare appears in the Vader comic

>>95179042
you will forever be known as "headcanonanon"

>one-shot comic about Han coming to terms with Ben becoming a Jedi
>Luke takes Ben to a Jedi temple for his first trials
>Han isn't prepared for Ben to leave yet so he comes with, Luke allows it as a sort of 'going away' trip between the three
>Luke, Han, Ben sit down in an old Jedi temple. Han doesn't get what's happening but eventually Ben sees a door and walks through it to his trial
>Han is surprised to see Ben vanish before his eyes
>Luke and Han talk for a bit about the Jedi. Han tries to act like he doesn't really care about the Jedi but Luke points out that Han has been reading Obi-Wan's journal. Embarrised, Han admits that Obi-Wan was a good man who sacrificed his life for theirs on the Death Star, which going by the rules he uses with Chewbacca means that Han owes a life debt, or at least a great deal of respect for Obi-Wan which is why he named Ben after him
>then Han sees a doorway
>Luke tells him to go through it. Han is freaked out but he does it anyways.
>Han sees Yoda who he soon recognizes to be the master that trained Luke on Dagobah
>Han talks about how he doesn't get the whole force thing and thinks it's just something that Jedi use, but Yoda tells him that the force flows through everything and that being a good father is just as, if not more, important than the work of a Jedi
>Han talks with Obi-Wan and sees visions of Obi-Wan's training under Qui-Gon where Kenobi reveals to Han that he used to be similar to the smuggler what with his skepticism and love for adventure as a young man. They go to a scene of a young Obi-Wan trying to awkwardly move a pastry into Satine's mouth using the force and them laughing when he gets icing on her nose. Han shows respect for the Jedi Master and finally he sees Anakin.
1/2

>>95179058
He should have been more than a gormless idiot.
Maybe he should try to rise but have Anakin singe a shoulder and then he just straightens his back and looks resolute

Or fucking something you know?

>>95179079
>Han is angry with Anakin because he sees him as Vader. Anakin apologizes for everything he's done to Han and his family and says that he's proud to have him as a step-son
>they go to a scene of Anakin meditating as a pregnant Padme sleeps in the bed next to him. Anakin looks startled and excitedly wakes her up. "It's gonna be a girl!" "Ani you said it was gonna be a boy yesterday." "No but I can sense it now, she's gonna be a beautiful girl." Padme begins crying and when Anakin asks her why she says that she fears for the galaxy their daughter will have to live in. Anakin says "Hey don't worry. I can sense that she'll have a great man to take care of her. He'll help her through all the hardships the galaxy can throw at them." Padme then smiles and they embrace.
>Han slowly comes around to Anakin as he sees visions of the young pilot in love with royalty, he learns to see the good in him like Luke did
>All three Jedi tell Han of great tests that Ben will go through and that no matter what happens, Han must have faith in his son to make the right decisions in life
>the whole time this has been happening, Ben has been having visions given to him by Snoke about the Jedi's failure in the past and how Luke has no hope of rebuilding the order. Finally though, Anakin, Yoda, and Kenobi help Ben pull through and come out hopeful that Luke's Jedi will succeed
>when Han returns Ben says that he understands if he doesn't want him going off to be a Jedi and that he could stay with his parents
>Han cuts him off and says that he is proud to have a Jedi as a son and the three embrace as Han's "It's true. All of it. The Force. The Jedi. All of it. It's all true." quote from TFA echoes in the background.
2/2

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>>95179014
>tfw republic TX-130 hovertanks from the 2002 Clone Wars video game are still not canon (though I hear they're appearing in BF2 thanks to datamining)

>>95178938
Quasar Fires have so far only canonically appeared in Star Wars Rebels AFAIK. I mentioned Truce at Bakura because that's where the Flurry showed up, and that was way back in 96 or something.

>>95179054
>Thoughts on this?

Shit

>>95179073
You know you could try reading between the lines and coming up with your conclusion instead of invoking the law of canon, but whatever makes you feel better, my autistic friend.

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>>95179058
>>standing up
>>when he's in incredible pain from having his hands cut off
>>when he has two plasma swords that can cut through planets near his neck

WOW!

What I am suggesting is tweaking the scene so that Anakin's blades give him the maneuverability to prop himself up straight, while still being on his knees, and dying with a little more dignity than was presented in the movie. Another anon already posted a picture from a different movie detailing exactly what I meant. Please go be autistic somewhere else.

>>95179104
>Or fucking something you know?
Why?

He just realized he got outplayed from Sidious. He honestly thought he was a valuable player and just lost but he wasn't quite ready to let it go. He's in shock and in pain. There's a little bit of hope that maybe Anakin will spare him. But he knows its over in that moment. All eyes were on Anakin to make a decision.

>>95179114
>2002 Clone Wars video game
Played the fuck out of that one.
Forget how I ever got it.
Was it an Xbox bundle?

>>95179114
No, I mean the old 90's video game Rebellion.

>>95179188
Anon, if you're fine with Dooku's portrayal then fine. Other's aren't and we were discussing an alternative. You are literally "stop disliking things I like" and it's getting fucking annoying.

>>95179188
>Why?
Because the Prequel villains were shadows of Anakin's fate as Vader
The Sith apprentice
The fallen Jedi
The cyborg

Dooku dying with a fraction of dignity is like how Anakin told Luke to take off his mask

>>95179182
Dooku and the German officer are in completely different situations.

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>95179189
Gamecube and PS2, I had it for PS2.

>>95179281
>captured
>about to die
What's so different?

Dooku acted like CIA in TDKR
>No! This can't be happening to me!

>>95179237
>You are literally "stop disliking things I like"
This never happened, anon.

>>95178526
>If he was expecting a betrayal and was hoping to betray his master first, but failed, he should have just accepted it
That's the thing, he wasn't expecting it. He probably knew that Sidious would kill him if he ever fucked up badly enough, but Dooku is arrogant enough to believe that he's indispensable to Sidious. In Dark Disciple he clearly believes Sidious needs him. Dooku thought he was safe so long as he made sure that Sidious never reached a point where he no longer needed him.

Dooku's surprise is that he didn't realize that point had already been crossed a long time ago. Sidious wasn't keeping him around because he was indispensable, he was keeping him around because his replacement wasn't ready yet.

>>95179312
It looks like a silver turd laid by someone who needs more fiber, but I've gotten used to it

>>95179327
>one is an experienced officer that would rather die than let his men become killed
>one is a selfish wizard obsessed with immortality and power

>>95179188
>>95179335
This. Dooku is that manager that thinks he has total job security and that the top boss will never fire him, only to be called into the office and told "yeeeeeeeah we're gonna have to let you go"

>>95178695
Holy fuck, I never noticed.

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Is Porgs a cancer that poisons the fanbase?

>>95179335
What part of, I don't like how it happened and I am discussing an alternative are you not understanding?

>>95179391
They kind of are but I already prefer them to BB-8.

>>95179391
They're just the new ewoks or gungans, only they will probably have an even lesser role in the film

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My favorite starship, the axe-shaped EF-76 Nebulon-B Frigate appears in multiple guises throughout the franchise and is a stalwart of the Rebel Fleet throughout the GCW. Presumably they are obtained from the planetary defense forces of sympathetic systems.
SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT HER!NO BULLYING

>>95179229
Perhaps it came out after Truce at Bakura? I'm not sure, I don't remember, and I didn't play it.

>>95179189
Gamecube and PS2, I had it for PS2.
>whoops fucked up my reply

>>95179355
They're just skyscrapers converted into ships. They fit the alien mon cal aquatic architecture very well and are excellent visual counterparts to the geometric empire.

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>>95179380
This happened at my job the other week. Good shit, anon. I fucking hate uppity assistant managers

>>95179402
Wait, why are you getting mad? I never told you not to like what happened.

I can't be the only one who would get a huge fucking erection if instead of fighting Phasma, Luke and Rey somehow managed to convince her to be a good person right? Like imagine if in this movie we see how ruthless she is and at the end of the movie she's kicked out of the First Order for lowering the shields to Starkiller, then in Episode 9 she's forced to work with Luke and Rey who end up convincing her that the world isn't entirely ruthless. It would be Luke's trust in his father taken to a natural conclusion where he starts seeing the good in other people and helping them out of destructive lifestyles. I don't think Phasma could ever be full Jedi tier good but I could see her ending up as a ruthless antihero who actually wants to help other people for once in her life.

>>95179407
Yeah, the porg merch had been surprisingly minimal. I would've expected a deluge of porg stuff but so far we've had what, some plushes and that one interactive one?

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>>95179373
>>95179380
Well sure, I can get his surprise and shock.

What I don't like how he looked like this for the entire 2 minutes where Anakin chatted with Palps.
Like, ok, holy shit, you just got played. But maybe like, try to say something RIGHT as Anakin cuts his head off.
Or anything really.
A man can only be surprised for so long

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>http://www.starwars.com/news/my-favorite-scene-qui-gon-waits

Literally why Qui-Gon is the best

>>95179439
I think it would take more than a pep talk to turn Phasma around. Plus assuming there isn't someone else who can present evidence that she lowered the shield, her comic already showed her covering her tracks on that.

>>95179439
I don't know. From the comics and novel, Phasma is a irredeemable shitbag

>>95179469
>But maybe like, try to say something
Like what? And please don't say "tell Anakin that Palpatine is Sidious"

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>>95179439
I'd rather Luke do this with Aphra post ESB desu.

>>95179426
I liked the Nebulon back when I was less informed and thought all the junk on the front were various cargo containers and modules.
Like the real ship is just the top bit, and it can insert/attach various parts to the bottom.
Now they're apparently standard issue. Like, ALL Nebulons look just like that. They all have the same "random" assortment of parts.


>excellent visual counterparts to the geometric empire.
I hadn't thought about angle before and you're right
It's really rather obvious

>>95179469
I think he knows that there isn't anything he can say that would change the situation. At this point it's less surprise and more suspense and nervously waiting to see if Anakin's actually going to do it.

>>95179469
Are you forgetting he cut Anakin's arm off? What about the multiple attempts on Padme and Ahsoka's life? There was no negotiating with Anakin.

Now, if Obi-Wan was conscious I can see this entire situation being played like you guys are saying.

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>>95179469
Yeah I'm sure trying to talk his way out of it would've been a good idea

>>95179515
It doesn't have to be anything specific.
Dookster just got fucked and he knows it.
Either he takes it nobly or he tries to betray Sheev.
Maybe he just sputters and stutters as Anakin cuts his head off
Or maybe he says nothing and just opens his mouth as Anakin executes him

>>95179515
>Spare me, and I can negotiate an end to this war
>I trained Qui-Gon not to be a murderer. He trained Obi-Wan not to be a murderer. I know Obi-Wan. He has not failed in your training.

>>95177415
Why?
The people that like the old canon and the new canon would kill each other

>>95179585
You just know Anakin's response to that would be
>Buuuuuullshit

>>95179585
Or just
>I- *lightsaber noises*

>>95179568
>just following orders
This is bullshit because he made it very clear with Ventress and Savage that he intended to kill Sidious.

>>95179469
The whole scene should have been different. By the time Anakin kills him you expect him to be halfway thru a sudoku. (he could use the force to hold the pencil, I know he doesn't have hands.)

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>>95179537
>Like, ALL Nebulons look just like that. They all have the same "random" assortment of parts.
Not true, even within canon they are semi modular. The 3d Nebulon B model from Rogue One looks significantly different to the original ILM physical prop from 1980.

>>95179610
I don't think the point of that picture is to depict Dooku being honest

>>95179486
Qui-Gon is the most fascinating character in Star Wars IMO. He's the guy that could have saved the galaxy had he not died,but instead wound up damning it with his dying request.

>>95179603
Yeah
But better that than Dooku looking like gaping moron

>>95179585
>thinking Anakin would fall for this bullshit after this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5azZ4z5kTTk

>>95179576
>Either he takes it nobly
But that's what he does...?

>>95179626
>Bra'hatok
Is that Klingon

>>95178790

The Trade Federation is like a colonial trading company that ships your stuff and cheats you but sends in troops if you resist. They want the Naboo to basically agree to their monopoly totally not under duress. Because the Senate won't stop them.

>>95179646
Oh I know he wouldn't. Just thinking of something feasible that Dooku might have said.

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>>95179655
>But that's what he does...?
>lip quivering intensifies

>>95179655
I think that anon is focusing too much on the worried look he has. This is Dooku's expression right after "do it." He seems less shocked and more resigned to it.

>>95179439
If spoilers are correct there's no chance of this happening. She does something to piss Finn off so hard that he RIPS her arm off, most likely with an electric axe or tr8r stick

>>95179655
Yeah, didn't the script call for Dooku to beg for his life but Lee convinced George that Dooku would take his dignity to his grave?

>>95179721
Forgot picture, but >>95179702
posted it anyway, apparently arguing now that this is the look of someone not going out with dignity.

>>95179671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A90TYC0BiwE

>>95179741
He looks pretty fucking cowardly and scared shitless in that pic, anon

>>95179763
Not sure how that looks translates to "blubbering coward" like you seem to think but okay

>>95175444

The C-3PO/droid spy's arc and the issue where Leia is acting motherly but strict to Poe are the only good issues.

On a while it's pretty bland.

>>95179763
Yeah, he's obviously scared, but he looks much more composed in that final shot. He looks like he's still hoping it won't happen but is resigned to the fact.

>>95179763
Well apparently it was good enough for Lee, so fuck you.

>>95179763
Are we looking at the same picture? Like I can buy that description for >>95179469 this, but that last shot he looks much more dignified.

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We've seen the X-wing, U-wing, and Occupier tank in the Season 4 trailer, but I'm going to save those for my Rogue One list. I will cover one thing, and that's this horrifically evil walker superweapon.

Reminiscent of Nazi occult super-weaponry from a variety of franchises from Wolfenstein to Captain America to Hellboy, this appears to be an AT-DP head on AT-ST legs, and equipment elephant-ears of some dark purpose (rangefinders? anti-air? ammunition? TOW missiles?), with a rotating electro-beam coil weapon that turns Mandalorian flesh to ash in the most visibly excruciating way. Presumably one of the weapons designed regretfully by Sabine Wren, this may be the first look at what "disruptors" do to life forms. Truly terrifying and despicable, and I am loath to see what happens with it in the S4 premiere. This will be my last vehiclefag post of the night.

>>95179657
No but it sure sounds like it.
tfw not enough people talking about ships :(

wow this is the most autistic chain of discussion I've seen in this fucking general in years

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>>95174413
>death planet II
>pizza Star Mega Destroyer Darkness
>goldmember emperor

Wow. If only the Mouse didn't make Luke gay another director wouldn't have been fired/quit and we'd have an age appropriate Mara Jade.

>>95177065

>sheev is fucking with him

I fucking love whenever Sheev fucks with Vader whether it be in canon/headcanon/fanfiction. Palps getting giddy just knowing that he can mess with Vader and Vader can't do shit is the best.

>>95179854
I still think "they never say what goods the Trade Federation is blocking, therefore Episode 1 makes no sense!" was probably the most autistic but yeah, this one's pretty dumb.

>>95179854
It's bad but it's not the worst. This is probably one of the better threads we've had all summer.

>>95179854
I agree, one brave anon is suggesting ways to improve a very poorly done scene and all these turbonerds are throwing a shitfit about it, this general really needs to be put down.

>>95179879

It's obviously Nute Gunray's porn stash

>>95179873

SHEEV IS KINO

>>95179867
>muh ra jade

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>>95179929

>>95179854
I'd rather faggots arguing semi-politely about the movies than faggots flinging shit about the legitimacy of EU vs canon novels that nobody reads

>>95179929
>very poorly done scene

You just said an aspect of the PT isn't absolute perfection. I hope you are prepared for a shitstorm.

>>95179867
>wanting Maray Sue

>>95178790
The treaty was about allowing the Trade Federation to operate on hyperspace lanes that weren't taxed by the Republic. The invasion was to basically strongarm Naboo into agreeing to let them get away with it, since Padme had been trying to pass a bill to enforce taxes in the region.

I don't think there was ever a treaty about legalising the war. Their representatives in the senate sperg out about "there's no war at all, launch a UN investigation to go see for yourselves!"

It's kind of dumb, but Sheev basically assured them he'd deal with the Senate side of things to get them off their back while they did their thing so they went ahead with their invasion.

Or I'm just remembering it wrong.

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>tfw make all these vehicle posts and people hardly even talk about their favorite vehicles let alone give me (you)s
all I want to do is promote polite on-topic discussion and get a few replies for my trouble, but I can't even get people to bully mu nebulonfu

I can't be the only one who thinks switching around the "I loved you!" and "I hate you!" lines in ROTS would make more sense right? It should be Obi-Wan saying "You were my brother Anakin! I loved you!" and Anakin replying with "WELL I HATE YOU!"

>>95180091
Don't feel bad, I gave you a (you) earlier when I mentioned how absurd it was bringing troop transports into a heated battle

>>95180065
come on man nobody here seriously thinks the prequels are perfect, we just disagree that they're as bad as some people make them out to be

if we go by the next vader issue, poor inky was corrupted long before anakin attacked the temple.

This week's lost stars is only 11 pages of stuff. 9 without the covers and what have you.

I'll storytime it when I'm done

>>95180065
60% of the thread has been a group of buttmad autists repeatedly and aggressively shitting on someone who dared suggest that a single terrible scene could've been done better so that's already been happening.

>>95179439

nah, she's pretty much out for herself. it would take a lot more than a pep talk for her to change her complete way of life.

>>95180203
>t. autist buttmad that nobody likes his suggestion

You're sockpuppeting a little too frequently anon.

>>95174811
it starts off from one of the other thrawn books, but reedited to fit the rebels story.

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>>95179486

>mfw retards that just focus on the choreography of this scene and not the symbolism.

>>95180280
but anon mr plinkett told me that only the OT fights have symbolism behind their bad choreography

>>95180091
No, anon. We're actually discussing Star Wars. It's been a while since I've posted in these threads because of the constant waifu wars and SS. I mean the other day we got 3 storytimes! Three!

>>95179873
Me too, mate
That's one thing I love about the Prequels.
Ian McDiarmid really brought out Sheev's absolute LOVE of being himself.

>>95180091
I've been with you, bud, since you started a few threads ago.
There just isn't much to talk about, you know.

I remember hating TFA when it came out but I hadn't watched it since so I watched it again

Big mistake

It's The Big Bang Theory of Star Wars. Every fucking scene is a cheap reference or copy. And uses surface level "nerd culture" (which I am convinced Star Wars isn't) to convince people that they are just as hip as the kids because they understood something about one of the biggest pop culture series of all time

OH LOL HAN SAID EXHAUST PORT! I UNDERSTOOD THAT! AM I NERDY NOW?!?!?!

>>95180304
If you actually watched the Plinkett reviews he praises that bit with Qui Gon

>>95180364
What OT character is Kylo a rip off of?

>>95180373
nice try but I'm not watching them again

>>95180358
>>95180326
You guys could talk about your personal opinions on star wars vehicles. I like to be an anchor point for discussion but I don't like to talk to myself.

>>95180233
It's "everyone who doesn't agree with me is the same anon" anon

>>95180443
That guy's literally going "that handsome and brilliant anon who is not me is being so unfairly treated"

>>95180203
>60% of the thread has been a group of buttmad autists repeatedly and aggressively shitting on someone who dared suggest that a single terrible scene could've been done better so that's already been happening.

The entire beginning of ROTS was supposedly trimmed down from about an hours worth of footage, and it shows.

>>95180443
Says the guy who can't handle the fact that people don't agree with his suggestion.

>>95180396
I incredibly enjoyed Kylo but one original character doesn't prove him wrong

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>>95180409
I've already done so.
There just isn't much more than "Yes, I like this." and "No, I don't.
Vehicles are so subjective that you can't break it down to logical reasoning.
It's like discussing music

But since you're so determined.
What's a real world aircraft that deserves to be Star Warsified?
You seem pretty knowledgeable about the topic
Maybe we can get some other people to join in.

I want to see a F4U Corsair. Or does the X-wing already count?
Pretty bent wings

>>95180473
But I'M the anon who made the suggestion about the Dooku scene and someone else made the comment defending me. Which means, surprise surprise, we're at least two different people, maybe more.

>>95180485
The entire space battle sequence from Rogue One is about 45 minutes long, but only the 10 most plot important and camera-friendly minutes make it into the movie.

>>95180502
No, you're right.
I'm fairly neutral about TFA. I liked parts and disliked others. Balanced out, pretty much.

I'm just annoyed by people who have temper tantrums acting like TFA was the worst movie ever made that they're about to hang themselves due to the "damage" it did to the franchise

>>95180526
>But I'M the anon who made the suggestion about the Dooku scene and someone else made the comment defending me
Sure, Anon. "Someone else."

>>95180502
Kylo would be the exception to the rule then? I can get behind that.

>>95180541
I'm that "someone else".
There are dozens of us!
Or at least two in this thread now

>>95180523
The X-wing is more of a P51, thematically. Filoni mentions it specifically. Personally I don't much care for the Corsair but that's just me. I'd like to see the aesthetics of the first generation of the jet age incorporated into Star Wars vehicle design - P80 Shooting Stars and Yak-17s, F86 Sabres and MiG-15s.

>>95180541
And there you go again. Do you do this any time someone disagrees with you?

"Oh, there's two people who disagree with me, nah they're the same person."

>>95178228
The reason that the trade federation has a fleet and army is to protect their assets. And also use it to bully planets and smaller governments into trade agreements.

Given that the republic had no standing military or law enforcement force, aside from the jedi, and the general lawlessness in the galaxy the further you are away from coruscant, the trade federation has good reason for a fleet and army.

Really simple thinking and logic just from watching TPM.

>>95180578
>first generation of the jet age
I can be down with that
They're so... uglycool
They're like pugilists punching the sky into letting them fly.
They'd make for cool Rebel ships because of that "crudeness".

Speaking of planes, have you seen Dunkirk?
Planeporn that one is.
>that early scene where we see the diving Stukas silhouetted against the pale blue sky

>>95180559

Don't bother. If this is the same guy, he does this every time I post something on here that goes against the "PT is gold" narrative. He refuses to believe that there is more than one person that dislikes aspects of the PT on the planet.

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So how does your girlfriend/wife feel about Star Wars?

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>>95180364
...hence why promotion for it literally said it was about and for the fans, yes. The main characters of the Sequels at large are literally modeled after the fanbase.

>>95180643
Normally I'd agree but the whole "this poor brave anon" thing is suspicious

>>95180643
>If this is the same guy, he does this every time I post something on here that goes against the "PT is gold" narrative

the irony is palpable

>>95180650
Star Wars is my wife

>>95180650
>where do you think you are.jpg

On a side note, my friend just got his wife to watch the OT for the first time in what may be literally forever.
I'll ask him next time I see him

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>>95180650
>your girlfriend/wife

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>>95180641
>have you seen Dunkirk
No, I don't watch Nazi propaganda ;^)