/hyw/ - How's Your Webcomic? #392

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>>94325074
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
calligraphr.com

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

You really never learn do you?

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>>94325074
We are also running our third challenge! Now fortnightly!

>THEME: post apocalyptic - cartoon - animals
>GENRE (options): FREE PICK (choose whatever genre you want on this occasion!)
>DEADLINE: August 13

Remember that you can play with the theme as you see fit, we want to see how creative you can get!

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This is the last time I can shill my comic before I'm traveling for three weeks with no internet.

>cute comic about a fox and a cat going on adventures after having lived their whole life together on a tiny hut on the ocean
>updates three times a week
>I can't draw but it does not matter because I will get there on the way

https://foxandcatadventures.tumblr.com/

>>94325074

Considering that tons of cartoons/comics have characters that perform athletic feats/fight with tons of acrobatic flair impossible in our world

How do you make a character's fighting technique and abilities stand out? As in making them truly impressive to the audience despite the over saturation of exaggerated combat.
I get that art is important but I'm talking more about the concepts and types of fighting styles.

>>94326053
I don't think fighting ability or technique should be the selling point of your comic. As long as it's "good enough" it will be glossed over. What's the story about, what's the more important feature that you're trying to show

>>94325746
Have a nice travel anon!

>>94326280
Thank you!
I wish you guys some nice ideas and time to turn them into drawn reality!

>>94326053
Watch actual fights. You'll notice that most of them will end in about 2-3 solid good moves. You don't need to have flairish fighting sequences if you don't want them to, but you just need to make sure your choreography looks good.

>>94326219

>I don't think fighting ability or technique should be the selling point of your comic

It isn't really. I just want to make on of the minor/secondary characters an impressive fighter/to have his skill set be unique. If anything his role in the story is more relegated to 'the dad of one of the (immortal) main characters that died centuries ago'. While I have his personality, relationships, and practically everything in his history down, I also want to make his skills seem cool just as a garnish on top of everything else.

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posted this on the art thread but the res was fucked.
anyways. mine and a friends character. working on a follow up to this. i always take forever with comics

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I want to do a webcomic about giant monsters, and potentially make money on it. Should I be concerned of Toho trying to destroy me? None of them have -zilla in their name.

>>94326853
The neck/head position of the dog (?) in the second panel looks painful. Otherwise the style looks really elaborate.

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got some stuff i'm workin on but have really slacked over the past week or two, last one i got done was this flyer for my patreon.


https://romanpen.tumblr.com/
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=322164

>>94327083
As long as they aren't blatant rip-offs you shouldn't have problems with it, the kaiju genre is mot exclusive to the SKREEOOOOOOONK franchise

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This is yesterday's page, hope it hasn't any typos unlike the last one. I felt it was time to start being a little less rigid with panels now that I'm more confident, and to be ready for an action sequence that will start next week.

>>94327228
Take the green whale looking guy. He's one of the main characters. He he's not a dinosaur and doesn't breath fire, but he does shoot a blast of sound by clapping his hands together. Will that be enough to get me sued?

>>94327083
Don't sweat it, as long as you don't use existing characters you are golden. Also I'm very interested on future development of this, I love the cowbot.

>>94327306
>words words words words words

>>94327332
I doubt it

Please tell me he claps like a seal

>>94328278
Well, someone has to make for your lack of vocabulary and communicating skills, my mentally challenged amigo.

>>94328563
No, but he can stretch his arms into giant fins words that look like butcher knives.

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>>94325074

The worst joke I've ever written 1/2

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>>94328691

2/2

>>94328691
>>94328722
I legit chuckled. Would read. where do you have it posted?

>>94328844

Thanks! See more at SaffronComic.com!

>>94327083

Oh I remember you, I think you'll be fine. None of your characters are Toho rip offs and its not like they own the rights to giant monsters. Otherwise we couldn't have things like Pacific Rim.

>>94326053
It's hard to put into words, I just know that growing up with a million arcade games has burned cool fighting styles into my brain, and finding anime shortly after arcades stopped being a thing cemented it even stronger.

>>94326853
I'm so glad we're still getting this adorable capybara

>>94327332
sued by whom, DC? for using Superman's move?

>>94328615
Cool

Has there ever been a story in an medium where the Hero and Villain never actually fight or confront each other?

>>94330249
Fifth Element

>>94330249
Definitely. If you're just thinking in terms of main hero/main villain in the Hunter x Hunter Chimera Ant arc the hero and villain pass each other by to go onto fights with a side villain and side hero respectively.

>>94325074
You talk a lot about drawing (obviously), but how's your WRITING in your webcomic?
>do you consider yourself a good writer?
>do you use scripts?
>are you going off the edge of your pants or do you plan everything out?
>do you ever practice your writing? if so, how?
>do you have particular strengths or weaknesses in your writing?

>>94330249
Are you talking like they never meet each other or just never fight?

>>94330488
>do you consider yourself a good writer?
Decent, but not great
>do you use scripts?
Yes but I follow them loosely and make adjustments as I drew
>are you going off the edge of your pants or do you plan everything out?
Mostly planned, with a little writing by the seat of my pants whenever I make last minute changes
>do you ever practice your writing? if so, how?
I write comic scripts and that's about it. If I enjoyed practicing writing as much as I do art I would be making a novel instead of a comic.
>do you have particular strengths or weaknesses in your writing?
People say I'm good with chracterization and dialogue, so I'll take their word for it

>>94330488
>>do you consider yourself a good writer?
Yes
>>do you use scripts?
No
>>are you going off the edge of your pants or do you plan everything out?
Plan everything out from beginning to end
>>do you ever practice your writing? if so, how?
Short stories
>>do you have particular strengths or weaknesses in your writing?
I can't do romantic situations to save my life. They always sound like something out of an anime.

>>94330570
They've met, but never fight. But I think my question has been answered

>>94328610
Are you writing a novel or are you making a comic, faggot?

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>>94330488
>do you consider yourself a good writer?
I consider myself to be out of practice in actual prose, but I have always thought of myself as a writer first. To be honest, my approach on more visual mediums is because I think I can make my stories reach more people if they have anything visual on them.

>do you use scripts?
Not much for comics, if anything i write the general idea and then make the composition right in the paper. Probably not the best.

>are you going off the edge of your pants or do you plan everything out?
I usually have everything planned out at least on a general perspective, I make some changes here and there on the go but I stay with my key points.

>do you ever practice your writing? if so, how?
I haven't practiced my actual writing in a year already. I used to use a roleplaying forum with some friends to help myself with my prose and writing, but after I got into an argument with the GM's favorite guy I stopped. Also college happened so that didn't help neither.

>do you have particular strengths or weaknesses in your writing?
Strenghts it seems people really liked my own little worldbuilding and how nothing felt retconned in my rp story, even when I admitted I did a lot of revisions and changes while I was writing. I'm always concerned with continuity, so that helps a lot.

As for weaknesses, I'm too shy to describe romance and lewdness. I have got a better hand on romance if only a bit, but I still can't write smut even if I can picture it in my head.

>>94330835
Can't you tell?

>>94331578
he's right, your comic needs almost no words on that page, we shouldn't have to read dialogue, it defeats the purpose of a comic.

>>94327306
Comic book fonts aren't very readable, IMO. Anyway, you could reshape the bubbles to give the illusion of paragraph breaks, or maybe have text in the bubble drift slowly rightwards or leftwards, it's just hard to read personally.

Has anyone ever thought of what song would be playing during the credits if your comic were adapted into a motion picture?

>>94331864
>comic book fonts aren't very readable
That must really suck for you. I find them to be the most readable, but I know how individual that kind of thing can be
>bubbles with paragraph breaks
This, I wholeheartedly support. In fact actually breaking the text up into chunks makes it much easier to read.

>>94332048
I don't really have a specific song in mind, but I think something hopeful would fit nicely. My endings are usually bittersweet but with hope for a better future coming.

>>94332048
I do. Thought I might be the only one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8LkYw-GFK0

>>94332048
Honestly the comic I'm working on is kind of sort of a thinly veiled idea for a television show. I already know what I'd pick for an ED: In the Backseat off Arcade Fire's Funeral. It'd basically just be the MC walking down the road while cars pass by, slowly evolving as the season progresses to jogging, then finally a breakout run on the last episode as we jumpcut to different characters in various locales throughout the season running in the same direction.

>>94327306
Those are some China walls dude, try to at least break it on more balloons

>>94327306
Cut down your dialogue, there's a lot of unnecessary words that lead to walls of text. Either that or break your dialogue up over more panels/pages/bubbles. People read comics for visual storytelling, not just walls of dialogue.

>>94330835
>>94331724
>>94331864
>>94333197
>>94333293
ITT: retards can't read

>>94333374
t. comic writer

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>>94327306
I didn't bother to correct your grammar because it's riddled with errors, but you should cut a lot of the fat from your dialogue and increase the font size. No one likes zooming in and out

>>94327306
>>94333891

I wil never, ever, understand why there are so many spelling issues in webcomics, especially if the art is decent.
You need to invest hours upon hours to draw a comic page, the time needed to spell check or even the time for the complete writing process pale in comparison. Yet it immediately ruins the presentation. It wouldn't be so frustrating if it wasn't so easily fixable.

>>94334668
Well judging by the signature in the corner, English isn't his first language so I think it's a little excusable. But definitely, plenty of people willing to spell check

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>>94327306
>>94328278
>>94330835
>>94331578
>>94331724

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Lots of text in comics is perfectly fine, if done right. The notion that there is some kind of golden drawing to text ratio or, in the very least, a very narrow margin of balance is pretty dumb in my opinion. There is a massice spectrum ranging from no writing at all to a grey area where panel structure is abandoned and comics transition into more of an illustrated novel type of deal. All the variations have legitimacy and where a comic falls on the scale says nothing about its quality.

Of course, there are certain established conventions that have proven to work well an can be adapted easily. Arranging lots of text on a comic page favourably requires lots of skill because more text always provides the potential of disruppting the flow. Keeping the flow alive is absolutely crucial and as >>94331864 pointed out, there's some basic guidelines to achieve that. But it can be done with lots of text aswell. Many comic beginners just lack the experience and need to invest a lot more effort into a page or chapter that is text-heavy.
I think an important aspect is to alternate high-text pages with low tex-pages regularly and establish a kind of rythm that supports a steady flow. If this is done correctly, high-text chapters can create a very rich reading experience.
Professional comic artists struggle with these issues as well. If I had to pick an artist who's really made high-text comic appealing and mainstream, I'd say Togashi. Of course, Togashi is a paneling genius so he's got a lot to work with.

Anyways, I just wanted to blow some steam, sorry for the blog post.

>>94335351
I agree with what you say here, the problem is not that it is text-heavy itself, but that the text is all together which makes it look like an awful pasta, which along with the small font size makes it hard to read.

I would have my issues with the page you just posted as well, but at least that one has more breaks and also a bigger line spacing, which the other comic posted here doesn't have and is what makes it hard to read too.

>draw like shit
>just want to find an artist to team up with
fuck comics

>>94334695
>I think it's a little excusable
fuck you and fuck off, if you can't write in english...here's a brilliant idea: publish in the language you don't suck six balls at? or have someone translate that isn't a troglodyte mongoloid retard

>>94333891
>>94333293
Thanks for the input, I'll keep it in mind when I work on the text layout for future pages.

>>94334668
>>94334695

If anybody can help me fix any grammatical error I would be immensely grateful. English isn't my first language indeed, and even though I have a relatively high level, I'm not totally fluent and translating actually takes me a good ammount of time.

>>94335988
>a troglodyte mongoloid retard
>- Selected poems by the hacker known as 4Chan, revised 3rd edition

>>94336043
what is your first language? martian? can you go back? is that still possible?

>>94335767
Try taking up straight literature.
Or just keep working on your writing until it's so good it can carry your shit drawing. Become the next ONE, anon. I believe in you.

>>94335767
How's the story go?

>>94335767
>be an artist
>write like shit
>just want to find a writer to team up with
i say fuck comics too, and me while you're at it

>>94335351
I don't think it's fair to use manga as an example, because the original text had to be translated. I don't know if this is an official translation or not, but even then there will be differences in how it's handled (regarding how well it can be translated, and how they choose to replace the text).
Even with this page, I get the impression that it was made to save drawing or animating time, all this text is a bit of turn-off, especially in panel 7.

>>94336043
panel 3, bubble four: *and when is that going to be?

panel 4: *going to be released from jail / will be released

panel 5: 've can only be used after a pronoun, but that fisrst sentence is a complete mess, needs to be redone from scratch.

Don't see anything else at first glance except maybe some comma issues. It's just overall really clunky. Just read more books in English, preferably some acclaimed stuff, not YA trash, and you'll make it...

Is one really a good writer? Can we really say that's why his comics sell?

>>94335767
It's practically impossible to find an artist over the internet unless you're willing to pay him/her.
If you're still at college or know some artists in your personal life you have a chance.
Definitely don't try in hyw all you're going to do is get "*sent :^)" replies and start stupid artist vs writer arguments.

Personally, I'd recommend you to just find people you know can draw and talk to them irl, eventually you'll find someone who's willing to collaborate if you get lucky. If you're really dedicated, also make a workmap and go to comic conventions and just speak to small time artists directly. Good luck.

>>94336250
>Is one really a good writer?
I'd say so.

>Can we really say that's why his comics sell?
Depends. HIS comics probably sell on their writing, but the manga version of OPM probably gets more sales due to the gorgeous art and/or anime, though.

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>>94336291
You have this text ready to copypaste anytime someone comes with a question like that, don't you?

>>94336291
i am an artist and i will do anything for free as long as you shower me in attention and sometimes affection

>>94336193
>I don't think it's fair to use manga as an example
Gaiman, then.

>I don't know if this is an official translation or not
It's not. I don't have the Viz scans for the recent chapters, they're a lot better. I also own the German tankobons which are excellent and in many ways superior to the American release (usually it's the other way around).
I'm not going to attempt to discuss Togashi because I'm very biased, you've not read hxh apparently, and anyways, the discussion would belong on /a/, probably.

>>94336378
Well, here we go!
[email protected]
If you're serious, send me a mail saying "Hi, I'm the guy from hyw" or something and I'll send you some scripts I'm working on. If you find any of them interesting, we can discuss a collaboration.

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To anybody hosting on those free webcomic special sites, could you tell me which ones you prefer and why? So far I'm between Comic Fury and SmackJeeves, but I think I need to pay to SJ if I want to use a domain of my own which is kind of a turn-off.

>>94336343
This was the sixth time I have created that reply, and I have become exceedingly efficient at it.

>>94336500
why do i get the distinct feeling i'm going to get raided by interpol for emailing this vaguely villainous sounding german email

>>94336238
Thanks anon, much appreciated, I'm going to make corrections now. Also, what is YA? Got any good recommendations? Basically, 99% of what I read is in English, so it's no problem. I'm a sucker for Robert A. Heinlein, but I've got the Complete Sherlock Holmes and The Coming of Conan lying around, are those good?

>>94336698
YA stands for Young Adult, you know, Twilight, Hunger Games, books like that. They aren't really good recommendations if you are learning the language because their vocabulary is kind of toned down either because the protagonist is supposed to be on low level (Hunger Games) or because the writer is not that good neither (Twilight).

>>94336621
I'm German, so I have a German email adress. I didn't expect it to be likely to get a reply - but hyw is a relatively civil place for 4chan standards and although creative collaborations on here are infrequent, they're not unheard of. I also feel that the recent 3-page contests have created a nice creative mood so I was willing to give it a shot.
As I said, if you're interested in a collaboration email me, if not, that's fine too.

>>94336534
could you theoretically use tumblr and just put your domain on there? or does that sound like a nightmare scenario to you

>>94336859
My only nightmare with tumblr is the community desu, but I don't think I have anything that could upset them. Yet.

Is it too greedy to ask how ad revenue works if you host on tumblr? Not that I will get visits worth many dollars anytime soon, but I'm curious.

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>>94336698
>Got any good recommendations?

/lit/ is a meme circlejerk, but you can't really go wrong with anything from this list, especially if you're new to literature. Just pick literally anything.

type in the tile here: b-ok.org and there you go.
Not even the most piracy opposed countries give a shit about ebooks...

>>94334668
You'd be surprised how hard it is to spell properly in english if you aren't just naturally word-intelligent, even if you study hard.

>>94337317
No excuse at all, nowadays.
Just use a grammar checking app, or even word or open office. It will take you half a minute.

>>94335602
Breaks really are what make it good
i like that this whole aggrument went by without me having to even get involved, but exactly as it would have, if I had.

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>>94337034
>Can't go wrong with anything on this list, especially if you're new to literature
>2 James Joyce novels in the first line

>>94336043
With the language barrier, you might have trouble telling subtle stuff like who's shitposting. so just in case you were unsure, the people giving you shit are just being dicks for fun. You don't have to actually feel like you have to accomodate them

>>94335988
>tfw this is the reason why I will never post my comics in english
I already suck at grammer and spelling in my native language.
At least I gave up on the idea working as a pro someday. So I guess it is okay.

>>94336193
Yeah nihongo has to spend a lot more time and words and syllables to say the same info, but english has the capacity to be super extra verbose and it gets richer and more enjoyable the more wordy you get (see popular cartoons currently)

>>94337524
oh.
maybe don't start with Finnegan's Wake, yeah...

But othet than that I think this list has a pretty good variety and examplifies how profound literature can be. I can't see anyone seriously arguing that any book on there is bad.

>>94336534
I like comicgenesis the best, but it has been nearly abandoned, so it probably isn't wise to start one now.

>>94337429
How good are computers at understanding the extremely vague nuances of grammar nowadays? They can't actually find most problems with meaning, can they?

>>94337812
No? Verbosity is pretty undesirable in English writing, ever hear "berevity is the soul of wit?" This is creative writing 101, mang.

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Hey dudes, I'm gonna dump the next chapter that's going to act as filler for my comic so i don't have to go on hiatus.

I've had it as a back up juuuust in case this sort of thing happened!

and if it does happen again, it's ok because I already also have a second backup chapter as well.

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>>94338115

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>>94338146

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>>94338187
Now with this one I've modifyed it a little bit so it can up to date with current times.

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>>94338217

>>94338251
And that's the end of the chapter.

No one knows what's happened to the dog to this day. Annabeth probably lost it.

>>94338251
>>94338217
>>94338187
>>94338146
Fuckin' /trash/

>>94338280
Whoops, forgot pic

Which is what I would have said, if i could upload the picture, but i can not because it is over 4 mb. so i guess you guys will have to wait until it's on the site.

>>94338057
brevity*
and we're talking about richness and enjoyment, not wit. Though actually, no. Brevity gives the impression of wit (the soul, if you will). It's one of those less-is-more things. You still actually want more.

>>94338280
God dammit, I laughed.

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Legend of the Hare: Return of the Cock Champion!

>>94338299
well said

>>94338553
Why is the cock so angry?

>>94338589
Probably because someone who's trying to be a friend just told someone to stop using a word, despite knowing exactly what she means. If that doesn't piss you off, I dunno what kinda peace pipe you're puffing on but I could use a hit.

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Got a bunch of shit to post for the next few weeks. Get ready! im going to create 5 pages of a comic, combine it to post on hyw, and gonna update my website!

in mean time, een studying muh hogarth, muh backgrounds, and muh manga references

>>94338809
whoa, an entire case of dokuza? don't drink it all in one night

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>>94327306
Left, just some text changes. I wanted to remove things that didn't seem necessary to write, and instead reveal later in the story.
Right, is a draft of how I would have spread it over two pages. I really wanted to try showing how WhiteCat was annoyed with their current situation, and didn't really understand why they weren't doing more elaborate schemes when she thinks they are capable of it. While BlackCat is pretty content with how things have been going. In your panel 4, I think it'd be a good idea to blow up the image of the convict, breaks up the dense dialogue.

Also, I'm pretty sure one of them is a fox? Dunno, I haven't been keeping up really.

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>>94338299

>>94337812
>>94338407
Let me guess, ColdFusion? Here's the thing, verbosity and wordiness in writing just stretches shit out. It bogs down the pacing, wastes the reader's time, and often muddles the intended meaning of a sentence. Excessive verbosity is the prose equivalent to drawing out a shounen fight scene, it's just boring filler.

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I always dream about doing 3 webcomics at the same time, but I can't even keep one with regular updates

>>94339678
Alright let me put it another way:
In MY opinion, the longer you take to just kind of naturalistically chat shit out, the more digression, the more seinfeld-ass shit going on, the more I enjoy dialogue. If it was boring, nobody would do it, because it's a pain in the ass and nobody is under any kind of "stretch this out into more episodes with less money" deadline the way they are in shounen anime.
The more words, the more meaning you get. That is how words work. And that is why Zetsubou Sensei, the monogatari shit, Rick and Morty, that one doctor who episode where they're all just trapped in a shuttle, and a whole ton of other things are so fun.

Obviously you still can't in a comic, as I said, unfortunately, because you have a limit on room and a big wall of text is difficult to chew through.. but if you have the time to break it up into a ton of interesting panels of people talking? Shit, pages can go by with nothing but talking in a way that expands on what could be just a couple sentences.

>>94339720
One day anon, one day

>>94327083
Just a heads up, like three of those things look almost exactly like monsters from "King of the Monsters".

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Does anyone know what happened to this guy?
He did this not too long ago, but nothing since
I miss this stuff...

>>94341872
he disappears every so often.. he'll be back
last time his house burned down, i'm sure this time it's nothing, comparatively speaking
or it's still the last thing. things dont always go away right away

>>94338780
Fair enough

>>94341872
I feel like I'm missing something with Lupone

>>94341394
Makes sense, that was the inspiration.

>>94343759
That comic is kind of all over the place, I wouldn't overthink it
The alt-text had an "anything goes" joke, though, maybe authors a fan of crappy musicals

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Practicing bubble composition.
As well as trying to get a better feel of the characters through interactions.

I made this in photoshop hoping it would be easier than SAI. But... the shape and text features are so counterintuitive.
Is there a better way or am I just an idiot.

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>>94312167

>>94344593
photoshop's shape tools are definitely confusing, you have to usually make a shape, then 'contract' by so much, if you want to make a lineart shape. The text is simple but it's annoying. And overall it can be hard to tell whether you have settings like anti-aliasing on or not

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>>94344593
>>94344728
I use photoshop on a daily basis because memes don't get edited themselves of my job and since I already got it I use it for my artistic works as well. I'm not sure why you have so many problems with the shape tool, you can edit the settings for it to only have the stroke and if you want a specific size for it too.

Although to be honest I use the CC version of the software and it has been years since I used the older versions, but even if you have those it should be similar.

As for the text having anti-aliasing, check for pic related on the text settings. As long as it doesn't say something like "none", your text has antialiasing already.

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I was in one of these thread last night but it dies shortly after
I'm working on my own comic (been in progress for 4 years)
called The K.Kroell
I will explain with the next picture

>>94345403
>you can edit the settings for it to only have the stroke
where? i'm using cs2, maybe it's not there yet

>>94345403
I use cs2. The old version that's free to download.
I just don't understand how any of the features work or how to alter settings.
In all honesty I'm worried of trying to. I might fuck it up somehow.

>>94345490
>Free
well that makes me feel really old, not only did I have to pay for it for college, but I pirated it before that and that version never worked.

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(had to use a preview version cause the pic is too big for 4 chan sorry)
The general premise is
A budding Demigod is being trained in the form of torment and turmoil by a similar demigod that wants to recreate The K.Kroell in his own image.
The two fight for universal inheritance ad to be the next King Kroell (The K.Kroell's god)
Kroeder (the main character) Must fight and awaken his godly strength and cunning to keep the planet he's born to inherit safe, and keep the people believing in their world's gods.

>>94345505
Don't apologize, my good anon. Saving a smaller version isn't just the rules, it's a good idea. Nobody can view a huge file easily, whether because of display size, loading time, or (in my case) something about my misinstalled graphics drivers and/or firefox just putters out when I try to make it load a big image
plus don't forget display size for your comic's webpage.

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>>94345475
>>94345490
>CS2

Holy cow I feel even older too! That version is really old indeed and I think it doesn't have some of the features that makes shape/text life easier. I thought you would have CS5 or CS6 since those were the last easier to pirate. Sorry for the high hopes, I should have asked first.

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The K.Kroell itself is a full world that I've been building on for these 4 years
It's got companies, mythologies, religions and etc
I plan to show off many aspects of the world to make it feel real
my goal is to create something totally new and keep any politics, and sjw influence that arent part of the K.Kroell's society
keep fun and aesthetics and keep agenda and shit out

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And with the creation of a whole new universe, it's more excuse to make more stories to build the world besides the main story of Kroeder
I can just keep making character designs for years to come to fit into The K.Kroell world.
the possibilities are endless

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I've been making designs for 4 years and I feel it's finally time to make the comic and show the world what I'm made of
I hope to have fans that I can treat like gold (without pandering too much)
I simply want something that people love.

>>94345618
Anon, I fucking adore everything you've posted so far, but just one question.

How many hours a day do you spend jerking off to your fifteen Gurren Lagann Blu-Ray disks?

>>94345556
Are you recommending that I pirate cs6?

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I have more passion for my work than I'll admit
I feel so many things these days lack heart and love put into them
I want the world to know how much my project means to me, and I never want to feel like its descended in quality

>>94345650
That's for me and my doctor to know

>>94345618
You ever play guacamelee.

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>>94345674
I tried actually but I never beat it

forgive me for showing off
character design is a biiig part of what made the K.Kroell what it is
Purple Lizardman is one of my favorite designs.

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I think Kroeder will always be my favorite design of mine though, but that's probably because of my attachment to him as a protag.

>>94345661
Nobody has to know anon, I don't even know if you can buy it anymore.

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All the inspiration from media and encouragement from people who love my work make drive me to making more and more impressive work
I will never appreciate anything more than that

How did you guys decide on the art style you would use for your comic? I never went to art school, so I've mostly been using various how to draw manga books to learn how to draw, but I'm taking some online courses and watching videos on how to draw anatomy and gestures to hopefully get away from drawing anime style things. But I kind of want to draw something similar to western cartoon styles as well. Its hard trying to find a style I like to draw.

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>>94345748
>watching videos on how to draw anatomy
not proko i hope

>>94337034
>Pynchon
Forgotten and discarded. Shit list.

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I hope to make many happy with The K.Kroell
truly from the bottom of my heart hope you guys will enjoy it when I start.
enjoy some characters

>>94345771

Nope havn't watched his stuff yet.

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The main villain here, the opposing demigod
Vile.

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Here's some Vile final art

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The K.Kroell's famous hero

The Shiny Metal Man
Gallix

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Ah sorry for spamming up the thread
I apologize
I get so antsy when I talk about The K.Kroell
It's like the son or daughter you're most proud of feeling.

>>94345712
... does every character have a variant on your last name in it, or just this guy and the ... I forget what the title refers to, a place?

>>94345748
Wanted to do something simple like newspaper comics, since it was possible to do a lot of quick, consistent gags at that level. Also was inspired by sprite comics, which have about the same detail level, so there's some synergy there. Also the Earthbound models.
The biggest deciding factor though was "if MegaTokyo can do a comic in pencil without cleaning it up, so can I"
Yeah.. no. But the bar was set low as fuck in 2002.

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>>94345935
Just those two (The K.Kroell is the planet's name)
I came up with those names years ago and never changed them
I mainly kept it because I started using german names for concepts and characters
and I'm mostly german, so I thought it was fun to explore the language with my series

>>94345955
And still, in 2017, you manage to lower the bar ever further

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>>94345935
oh and Lord Leroesche, he was technically my first character ever made back 5 years ago before The K.Kroell was even an idea.

>>94345748
>How did you guys decide on the art style you would use for your comic?

I didn't, I only roll with what I can do, so I warn you all beforehand that my style is a mess with different mixes here and there so please bare with me.

>>94345968
BTFO

>>94345955
>"if MegaTokyo can do a comic in pencil without cleaning it up, so can I"
you retards see this? the ones who see OPM and think "hey ONE can make it drawing like shit, so can I!"

you're wrong. you're all mini coldfusions in the making.

>>94346029
Did you miss the 'yeah no' part? I owned up to that. Definitely not a good way to think, but the more important thing is that piro could actually draw.

>>94346080
and when did you learn that lesson? idiot, do you see yet? stop embarrassing yourself

>>94345955
Why are you still continuing with it after all these years? Clearly you know by now that your webcomic will never be popular, partially because of your style.

>>94346099
>>94346096
I was talking about the pencil aspect. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

>>94345825
Damn this looks creepy as hell.

I like all of your designs actually, you got some nice stuff in there anon!

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>>94346255
Thank you man, comments like that drive me to keep going
I appreciate it

>>94337034
I guess this should be complemented by saying that anon should read books whose original language is English. I don't doubt the translation abilities of editorials not anything, but they may not work the same for learning the actual intended grammar.

>>94346769
>says the one making typos everywhere

Phoneposting at 1 am please understand

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>>94345955

I think one of your biggest flaws isn't the art but the writing and you in general. You're the person that needs an editor not just for your work but for every single bit of interaction you have with people online and in real life.

There's a reason why you're lumped in with the other three horsemen of the apocalypse.

I see you spinning your wheels and wonder "why doesn't he have some kind of a following" and then you say something so bad I have to look away.

And then I really look at your work and that level of weirdness (not in a good way) seeps into your panels and dialogue. You really would benefit from having a writer to at least lift up your art.

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too tired to proofread,

>>94347705

Then don't post it until you do.

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>>94347740
Good point.

Am i being annoying about this? Sorry, i thought nobody going to reply and stuff. I pretty boring guy compare to other people.

>>94347771

Otherwise it'll seem like you're expecting people to do that for you. If you want, just say you're open to criticisms and comments.

>>94347952
I am open up to criticism and comments?

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after networking with a couple editors at SD Comic Con and talking to fellow artists about my portfolio I am certain that I need to grind a couple areas to elevate my work more. I got really good feedback and there will be future conversation.

so far i'm happy that there is confirmed interest in the concept of Kinematic but I need to polish and complete a first draft to turn in for formal review. I know a lot of people have been asking already... I feel ready now tho.

while I am working on that I'll be in making my proportions more unique so that it stands out more, also I'll be working in studying more fashion as I was told that my work best fits a young female audience which is fine by me.

welp, I'll be busy.

>>94326853
You don't have any dropshadows, or really any shadow at all, it's all quite... saturated or pastel-like... I would use more distinct shadow or go the inverse, and just have no shading, and just texture and colour.

>>94348435

Where's the porn, friendo?

>>94344593
The speech balloons in P2 are in the wrong place for that conversation to flow; standing rabbit's dialogue should be on the other side of his head, inbetween book rabbit's first and second balloons.

Standing rabbit filling the entire height of the panel is acting as a panel border/divider, so you read the whole of book rabbit's dialogue first, before you notice what standing rabbit is saying. Move SR to the right, and his speechballoon to the other side (and up a bit).

Study how the vector shape and line tools work in Photoshop. You can make a decent speechballoon shape using four control points and adjusting the handles.

Alternatively, if manually drawing your balloons, try a very broad brush drawing straight lines (hold down shift).

Dialogue text should be centre-aligned (not left-justified), and arranged into a block or oval with appropriate use of line breaks.

>>94347952
Fuck off, what's wrong with asking for free proofreading?

>>94347771
I always like your stuff, man. Let's see...

>this is a first. I never saw a child to block out Mr. Lou's psychic powers before
I think the more common expression is "Well that's a first!"
Then: "I've never seen a child block out Mr. Lou's psychic powers before"

>reminded me of me
"remind me of mine"

>in my free time or lunch time
Sounds kind of weird. I would say EITHER "in my free time" OR "during lunch time" or just "later"

>>94349985
It is okay anon! You don't need to insult other anon. He was trying to be helpful. And Thank you for saying that!

>>94349985
>Fuck off, what's wrong with asking for free proofreading?

Because he didn't ask. Which is why I offered some helpful advice. Give a man to fish and feed him for one day, teach a man to fish and feed him for life.

>>94337034
>he doesn't get dating advice from /lit/

>>94346139
You didn't answer his question. Why are you still making your comic? You will never be anything but reviled in every community you go to, so why keep going?

Man, coldfusion sure attracts a lot of bile...

>>94350838
someone has to educate the masses on the positives of menstrual cups

>>94346029
Not to defend him, but there's nothing wrong with an amateur beginning with rough work. Not learning a damn thing about inking, color theory, anatomy, shading, or expediency in a decade is unacceptable.

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QUICK,


post the idea you had for a comic but don't trust yourself enough to actually make.

>>94349985
Can I get free proof reading here? noice
my comics become mostly silent because I'd spend more time checking my english than actually drawing the whole thing.

>>94351673
A maladjusted teenager on a small, sparsely populated island with a relatively large abandoned city tries to break her family out of a Faustian Bargain.

>>94351946
Please, do tell me more

>>94351673
I wanted to do a story about two young siblings in Roman Gaul trying to escape to Rome during the barbarian invasion.

>>94351510
He also didn't learn how to hide his autism.

>>94351510
Have you not seen his "normal" non comic work? Not saying it's great but he actually has some semblance of skill. He chooses to draw like shit in his comics for "muh style"

>>94351673
A boy falls in love with a girl. Unable to confess,

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I should just make an edgy about how pathetic I am and how much I hate everything.

Do anyone has a crawling-core playlist for maximum edgyness?

>>94352845
He does lots of tracing there actually.

>>94352845
I thought his non-comic work was all shitty loli porn

>>94351673
Something mixing my favourite things about adventure time and moomin. A fantasy world with wacky stories about magic objects and monsters and characters and stuff. I don't want it to be redundant to the other story I'm going to write and also, it's just not exactly inspired.

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>>94349527

>>94351673
Fantasy world with reverse % of water-land in comparison to Earth with multiple protagonists and POVs, all connected by an ancient conspiracy that is actually just a bitter fag wanting revenge on all the known world

>>94351673
I only have 3 comics I really want to make. I've been obsessed with one of them, but I put it off until my art and comic career improve. It's kind of frustrating not working on it though.

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>>94353571
And now no wonder I hated geography at school, I meant the idea was to have more water than land, I don't know why I worded it like I did there

>>94352174
I'll post some more on my lunch break, at work right now so I don't have time to type.

>>94352963
I mean do you REALLY hate everything? that's a lot of work just to let everyone know that you hate things
anyway these are some misanthropic gems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVtWcQOWWmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDDulEQsIoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbfxNoYxMhI
and especially this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ysyB_rhAWs

>>94352963
Go ahead. You will be really popular on facebook!

>>94351673
sad porn comic

>>94348435
Good to know about you again anon!
Good luck on your efforts!

>>94346769
Basically just read anything published in the 90s or earlier.

>>94347313
Dude I would love a writer. Or at least someone who's read all my shit and could act as a reference source or idea springboard. "did I do that already? have I left any threads hanging?"
I like my weird dialogue though, that's one of my favorite bits.

>>94335351
Using Togashi as an example is really bad.
The only reason people bother with his walls of text is because of the trust he has built with his readers over hundreds of chapters that his writing/work will be top quality.
This isn't anything you can expect random webcomic to pull off, especially at the start.

>>94348435
Very nice pose and angle, but the proportions are still skidding around like water drops in a hot pan here. Just a bit. Remember the elbows go down to the bottom of the ribcage, and always doublecheck your leg portion ratio. Right now your thighs are about twice as long as your shins. Gotta bring those knees up, especially the far one seeing as the heels are that far apart. You'll wanna raise the far hip up too just so it's all in agreement.

>>94351510
hey hold on, I know expediency.. ... that's not a good thing. Also a little anatomy. You gotta admit my hands look alright.
>>94352967
Hey I have never traced. I do heavily, HEAVILY reference though. Mostly for commissions, when the customer hands me the pose to copy
>>94351898
yeah sure dude

>>94353649
We already have more water than land. If you meant to reverse the percentage in comparison to earth, that would mean mostly land instead of mostly water. Would be interesting, almost definitely a very different climate, different resource issues...

>>94355294
>Mostly for commissions, when the customer hands me the pose to copy

When someone can pick out the art you copied to make a pic you're doing it wrong and you need to stop.

>>94355848
is that part of pose-copying etiquette? are you supposed to make changes? because I often do, but I didn't know that was a rule.

How do you feel about having your target audience being aimed at kids and or adults /co/?

What would you differently to yor comic to fit the targt audience?

>>94356076
Personally, I think anyone who gives any mind to that is a ponce. The idiocy of incompetent executive thinking has no place in independent production. You make what you want to make, and you get the audience you get. Catering and pandering are self-defeating.
And, more than anything, anyone who thinks kids and adults need separate entertainment has probably never been either one.

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>>94355848

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>>94351946
>>94352174
>>94354054
So I've been lazily mulling it over since 2010, and the gist of it is this:
Gibson Island is in the Pacific Northwest, in the Canadian Gulf Islands, just North of
Washington State. In the 1910s & 1920s, the town became a popular spot for wealthy investors in lumber and coal, and became a boom-town. When the depression hit, the city was abandoned in a matter of a few short years with only a handful of families staying behind. The northern 3/4 of the island, largely urban and heavily developed remained uninhabited for most of a century. The remaining residents all huddle together in suburban neighbourhoods along the southern shore.

Rosemary "Boss" Roswell grew up on the island, her grandparents settling there after WWII.

>>94355116
>Goblins: life through their BUTTS

>>94356168
Theres some differences. Kid stories obviously have less cursing and sometimes death is more vague. I was more curious what people would do if they couldn't explicitly have a character die, how would they get around that.

Personally I worry that I draw women too sexy for kids or that my world view might be too cynical. Though I know theres cartoons that have those elements.

>>94356460
I'd be curious to know what makes you think any of those things don't belong in things for kids; why you would ever worry about that.

>>94356407
Roswell and a quartet of hangers-on spend weekends and nights sneaking across the bridge between their neighbourhood and the 'old town' to explore the old buildings.
Roswell's father has been missing for a year, having left behind financial provisions, a gun cabinet, and a handful of cryptic letters.
The sudden influx of workers and upper-class citizens from across Europe during the town's heyday has left behind an eclectic assortment of relics, texts, and occult paraphernalia from a mosaic cultural background. Roswell is convinced that some non-human intelligence is responsible for her father's disappearance, and is using the "urban spelunking club" as both cover and backup while she digs through the old town in search of any leverage or bargaining chip she can use to reassemble her family.

>>94356407
This is a really interesting idea. My grampa lived up there in Washington during the depression. His navy dad was stationed there but the designated military housing was full, so they just had to go nail together some sheet metal and live in a shack for a while... and they went out to the shore and ate mussels and whatever they could dig out of the ocean. Sounds like a really interesting time n' place.

>>94356548
I think I'm more worried about parents shutting me down than kids themselves disliking it.

>>94355325
No I actually meant way more water than land. The idea started as a pirate story and all nations were a bunch of islands in a huge ocean. Kinda as if all continents were Oceania instead of big masses like Eurasia.

>>94356970
They don't do that with webcomics. The only reason they can do it with TV is they have advertisers who listen to every little thing. Comics advertisers don't care as long as it's not flat-out porn, and even then there are ads for porn. If your comic isn't ad-supported, it's extra irrelevant.
Now there are exceptions, if you're big enough to get the big advertisers (and big enough to need it to afford your site) they will bust you down for a single nipple. Still, that's it. Nobody cares about swears or stabs.

>>94357003
So, Water World?

>>94357003
Oh okay, so rather than the opposite of Earth, it'd be "Earth but even moreso"
There is a fantasy book setting called Earthsea that's like that. Plus of course Wind Waker. It can be a lot of fun adapting everything to an ocean world.

>>94351673
I wanted to do something where after a Nuclear War Vinyl records become the only thing connecting us to the world before and also becoming the most valuable objects in the world.

>>94357103
That's pretty cool. I saw something like that recently, but with cassette tapes. Don't worry though as long as yours doesn't have giant robots, nobody will think it's too similar.

>>94356456
>BUTT

>>94357048
>>94357023
Yeah that's what I meant, it started just because I wanted an excuse for pirates but as time went the world and it's history became bigger and bigger to the point I don't think I can manage on the closer future. At one point it isn't even about pirates anymore.

I must admit that I haven't checked any of those works, I know about the Zelda game but have never played it. Probably should check them.

>>94345982
samurai jack?

>>94358292
Reminds me more of Chibodee Crocket

>>94345748
It initially came to me trying to imitate Jeff Smith's style, as Bone was at the time my favorite comic Cerebus the Aardvark and Usagi Yojimbo were also big inspirations.

Of course, I'm no Jeff Smith, but I think I developed something very much of my own. I knew I wanted to make a lighthearted Fantasy adventure and so trying to copy those comics worked nicely at first

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>>94358649
Woops, forgot pic of what I was talking about

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>traced over a painting while sketching for a character's appearance
>I have no plans to use it outside of reference material for the look but still feel guilty about it

>>94358750
nothing wrong with tracing, as long as you don't publish it. You can learn a lot from tracing. Just.. not everything

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>>94344647

>>94358834
Tracing literally teaches you nothing other than how to draw one specific set of lines, you dope. Quit trying to share share your art "knowledge," CF.

>>94358750
I only trace some fucking difficult to draw jewelry and mechanic parts, since I need to be precise with those or they would look way off.

I think you can be more lenient with the human form.

>>94358834
>>94360018
>>94360116
the only downside to tracing is a personal one, no one cares if you trace, at the end of the day the only time someone will notice you trace is when they ask you to draw on the spot
this of course if you take your own pictures to trace from tho

>>94360018
Yep, and if you do it enough, you start remembering them.
It's like how just reading the answers helps you remember shit for the test. It's extremely narrow and only helps on that exact, specific test, but that's still more than nothing. Plus, just getting it right once and comparing to how you do it on your own lets you see what you're doing wrong (like not seeing foreshortening)

>>94360116
If we're fair, everyone traces mechanical stuff. Disney has been doing it since at least Cruella's car. That's what makes shit like Gundam so impressive, when you actually can draw mechanical stuff by hand and keep it consistent.

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t-shirt design progress.

that anon from the previous thread was a nice help, for sure.

>>94360684
Glad I could help. Damn that is a bitchin' logo.
Just gonna ask one more time though, are you sure ponytail man's legs shouldn't be longer? Like especially the below the knee portion? If that's just his deal, then nevermind. But if someone doesn't tease him and call him Baby Legs as a joke, I will be disappoint.

>>94360755
he's short but yeah, now that i'm paused, i see that his legs are a tad short. Even for his frame.

>>94360684
why is it called gloryhol

>>94360866
It's a Dethklok pastiche.
I wish I'd come up with some kind of sexual vikings that live in Gloryholla. That's a good pun.

>>94360866
basically what he said. And it's a name i came up with a friend when we were really drunk for stupid band names.

>>94360912
You gave me a good idea. Gay vikings from space.

I'm finishing the third chapter of my webcomic this week, very excited as it's such a long term project for me and I invest a lot of time in doing it (on top of a full-time job). I'm really psyched to finish it because it's an achievement and I can see myself improving with each chapter. However I'm finding it nigh on impossible to get any serious traffic to the updates. If I'm lucky I get 200 views per update - at least 20 of those are me at work checking the script for inconsistencies as I write the next bits.

I know it's super hard for sincere, story based webcomics to make an impact in the same way that gag-a-week strips do. But are there any good forums or places to share my work that isn't here or Tapas? I tried Twitter and Tumblr, but I frankly don't have the time to engage with those platforms enough to get any sort of following.

>>94361823
In the Goodie Bag we have a nice guide for self-promotion, don't know if you have checked it already though

http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

You have some sites there like Top Web Comics, The Belfry WebComics Index, Piperka and The Webcomic List. Reddit if you aren't a fuck off reddit guy.

It also helps if you are active in the sense of you updating fanart and stuff like that in your own social media. It will draw atention to your webcomic eventually.

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>Read comics from this thread
>They're all uninteresting as fuck

Come on faggots, no god tier art is gonna save your shit ass writting

>>94362066
what did you say, punk?

>>94362066
unless you're a 12 year old trans you're not my target demographic

>>94362114
>taking the b8
this had better be pasta
>>94362087
now that's more like it

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I did some colors on the main characters. Now all i need is to paint a FUCKING BACKGROUND

>>94362066
lolfag

>>94360462
that's cheating and unethical and disney should go to prison and/or hell for it. tracing is the devil's work. do you love satan? are you a communist? kys

>>94362256
Your comic is nothing besides tits. If it weren't for the huge chests your work would be fucking ignored entirely

>>94362438
Gloryhol anon is like /hyw/'s version of RAITA, creates weird skeleton-tits but his normal women and men are actually decent.

>>94362256
Oh man, I love their outfits. Didn't realize til now they were dressed like dapper pirates

>>94362438
Personally I'm in it for the metalocalypse parody
And just like in that show I can ignore the tasteless gore, in this one I can ignore the tiny-headed lady with tits down to her ass.

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posting my other comic, mostly doing this so I can have something quick to put out while I get more views for my da.

http://c-tierboi.deviantart.com/art/CosmicWarp-title-page-696414782

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>>94363185

and the first page


http://c-tierboi.deviantart.com/art/Cosmicwarp-Page-1-696420767

>>94363185
>>94363308
My gahd

>>>/ic/

>>94363347
i'm guessing this anon is implying that it looks bad, and some parts do but there is potential
>>94363185
>>94363308
how you color looks like you have a clear intention, but a little sloppy for the people.
i'm not sure what that thing is on the red hair guy. is it a moving arm?
i did the way you draw backgrounds. very cute, very simple.
how you draw faces is cute, but not impressive
the hand being a ball doesn't bother me but i can see how it'd bother others.
also you might as well just color your pages.
black and white is a good style for comics that make use of it. in your case it just makes your art look unfinished. lots of people do this i don't know why

like I said, I made it so it could be the bare minimum so i can get something out on da to get more people when I have college to deal where I can't focus on my main comic.

>>94362066
Ok QUESTION, what is it that YOU'D like to read? What are you into ol' sport? if your just a troll go on your way if not stay a sec and talk to us.

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I have a tablet now. If anyone wants to write a three pager for this weeks challenge please let me know.

>>94359776
Im rooting for you bud!

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Thanks to the advice of some kind anons yesterday, I fixed the grammar errors and divided the two text walls so they are less intimidating. Also, I rewrote the last balloon, now it should be at least readable. Next time I feel wordy I'll considerate to make more balloons, or even make it into more than one page.

>>94363600
This should be the next OP

>>94363532
Yeah I would at least put in some grays. Just one layer of gray would make a big difference. But if it's digital anyway, and so simple, you might as well just bust out the fill bucket for all the time it'll take you.
The best thing about cute, simple styles is how easy it is to get them nice and even and geometric with only a little extra effort.

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This is what I'm working on now. After all this talk I think it's time for some action, so for this scene I'm planning to do a car chase. I hope I can make it interesting enough, it's hard conveying the feeling of speed.

>>94363597
>so i can get something out on da
I fail to see what favors that has even the potential to do you
>to get more people when I have college to deal where I can't focus on my main comic.
Wanna run that sentence by me again?

>>94364086
I wasn't even one of the critics, and I think this looks loads better.
>>94364659
psst, turn up the contrast and even pages like this can be legible online so we can see what you're up to.

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>>94337034
>Moby Dick
>good

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>>94364795
It's good as meme source at least.
Damn it has been way too long since I read it, I remember loathing it but being fair I was 12 years old back then. Maybe I should read it again if only to refresh my memory on it.

>>94364898
I'd rather read Re: Zero again then Moby Dick: Knot Tying Chronicles.

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>>94362066
Clearly you haven't yet read the dewd's magnum opus.

>>94363597
thank you!

>>94365250
Is it ok to add a period on the subtitles? I mean it is correct but I don't usually see titles nor subtitles with periods so it just strikes me as odd.

>Blocking one of the characters with the title
Why tho

>>94365403
you know, now that you mention it, I have never seen a period in a title. Colon, sure.. exclamation point, question mark... but not a period
>why tho
apparently it's a reference to something else that did the same thing

>>94365250
lmfao i remember that disaster. is that shit publisher still trying?

>>94337034
>No Foundation

>>94365608
>Sci-Fi?
>In MY /lit/?!

>>94365250
>zach

So that's why he changed his protagonist's name early on, he's a shameless self-insert.

>>94365776
Sounds like shame was involved, hence the change.
I still wish Finn had been left as Pen. It's just such a fitting and unusual name that fit the tone of the show so well. but he said he didn't want his name on kids' underwear

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>Drawing cars

I mean I can get away with it but I don't do them as "clean" as they probably should.

Any of you polished your mechanical skills or just going with anatomy?

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What's a good program I can use to plan, plot, or chart my story and characters?

I know I could use pen & paper, but I don't want there to be any chance of people discovering my autism.

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Wow. I just got back from the black superheroine thread. Apparently I'm a scam artist tricking people and I'm the superhero rape tracer anon from 2011.

Has anybody ever tried to work on any /co/ projects? I know the Psu did and ultimately dropped it.

>>94367298
Google docs.

I don't know of any specific software, but the Snowflake Method might be useful to you.
http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/articles/snowflake-method/

>>94367298
You could always just keep it saved in onenote or something.

>>94363600
I bet /jp/ OC thread is behind this.

>>94367687
>when the dewd can tell you you fucking suck
BLU TRINITY PUBLISHING BTFO

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These took longer to make then they should have.

>>94367252
Sadly my mechanical skills outpace my anatomy completely, since you don't need to worry about things stretching and squishing at all. Which isn't to say that things like cars are easy at all, because I still suck at perspective.

>>94367348
Ohh I like this.
>>94367739
You have to admit, no matter someone's quality, if they're your client you at least TELL them when you're dropping them. That's just professional courtesy.
>>94368040
Heyyy I remember this. I remember it being really hard to read or something. It is currently not hard to read. It's also cute and reminds me of some hybric of Hey Arnold and that cute Animation Domination cat song girl. Is it a story or just a one-off?

>>94368254
>>94367739
>>94367687
>>94365597

Damn I'm curious, what happened?

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Guys, how do I promote your webcomic if I don't have a large presence as an artist on the internet?
I don't want to waste months making fanart to get an audience that's gonna leave after I start doing original stuff. I just want to start a comic.

>>94368373
>willdrawforfood guy wants to make money
>joins up with some "friends" and starts blu trinity publishing
>they take just about anybody and throw together a shitty site, have a shitty intro video, and have a shitty contract where they own your comic's publishing rights for two years
>sell all print comics for $13
>that includes dewd's comic >>94365250
>everything falls apart
>wdff is stuck in a contract because his "friends" won't let him leave this sinking ship

It was all bad. A shitty business with untrustworthy people running it that have no idea how to be even mildly competent. I'd say they would scam you but that would imply they'd get any money out of it.

>>94367298
microsoft word
but make an index and use links for important points and such

>>94351673
A japanese guy writes a shitty light novel to make fun of them but his girlfriend and otaku schoolmates love it unironically and he keeps writing for money, getting feedback from friends and editors that water down his ideas and make it more cliche and trash. He starts to lose faith in art as he is picked by BRAND Pictures (mispronounced as BLAND) to get an anime.

It's too weeb so I don't have the guts to write it but I'm so in love with the idea.

>>94368671
This is actually a bomb ass idea.
If it's too weeby then americanify it.
Instead of a japanese light novel... an american young adult series series.
And have it picked up by some movie company.

>>94368538
They did scam me 70 bucks saying that they would put that money towards making the books, advertising, and something about a card game.

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Alright, I've waited a month for the scene to finish, but it's all out, so now I can storytime.
Here's page 1

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>>94369006
pg 2

>>94368919
That sounds disgusting

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>>94369006
>>94369026
pg 3

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>>94369006
>>94369026
>>94369060
pg 4

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>>94369006
>>94369026
>>94369060
>>94369079
and the final page.

>>94368533
Just start your comic then. Fandom can come later.
In the meantime if you consider doing things for people like fanart and participating in stuff a waste of time, then don't do it

>>94368538
oh I'm sure nobody lost any money, I mean-
>>94368996
shit, really? That would have been useful information earlier on. No legit company ever asks you the client for money unless it's for something demonstrably useful such as training, and even then that's really shady

>>94368919
fucking hell, it's perfect

>>94369178
Fuck off, coldfusion. Not even Dewd likes you.

>>94368538
Damn that does sound awful, I wouldn't wish something like this even on the people I dislike.

>>94368996
>and something about a card game

What the hell really

>>94369006
>>94369026
>>94369060
>>94369079
>>94369110
So I've been contemplating changing the format of this comic. I'll still stick with the storyboard-style method since this is meant to be "animated", but I'm thinking of changing the delivery method to be able to fit on a standard 8 1/2 x 11 page and make it more "comic book-friendly".
On top of this, I'd really like to up the quality of the art. Add color, do some shading, something to make it more eye-catching because I suspect that one of the things holding this comic back is the art.
As I've said before, I'd rather have good story over good art, but I'd like for this to look better to help it be more competitive on the market.
That being said, I'd have to drastically cut back the quantity of panels from 12-16 a week to about 6 a week. I'm worried that this'll turn people off from the work, but if Ava's Demon can get away with one bloody panel an update, the masses might find it in their heart to forgive me.
What do you guys think? More story or better art?

>>94369032
I guess. But I still think the idea is good.

Hey... so what's with Cold fusion.
People seem to hate him.
What's the story behind this?

>>94369320
He is really dense.

>>94369320
>>94369355
he draws ok loli tho'

>>94369320
>shitty art and hasn't improved while working on the same comic for 15 years
>really creepy person that even dewd doesn't like
>has an autistic fascination with casual nudity and underage girls and feet and now menstruation blood
>had an autistic rage over on the hyw discord and got booted out

Every thread he figures out a new way to be an even bigger creep.

>>94369274
I think you could compromise for the time being and replace the flat grays with flat colors. That's something at least.

>>94369274
Adding colors may be a nice improve to your comic indeed, maybe not much shading but at least flat colors so it looks a bit more "alive" in a sense.