/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

I don't care what she is

>>94267571
i just wanna put my benis into her

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What is she, /swco/?

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>>94267571

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>>94267627
pretty fuggin qt

What did everyone think of Inferno Squad?

That ending was quite the bummer. Though I expect Del Meeko will become /swg/s husbando when the game comes out.

>>94268323
I still haven't finished it. I don't want to quit but it's kind of a slog, so I've been going very slowly.

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Fuck, Marry Kill?

>>94268361
Well one is already dead.

>>94268361
All three to all three

>>94268361
Fuck Anakin
Marry Luke
Kill Kylo

ANAKIN SKYWALKER IS THE SLOTH CREATURE

SNOKE HAS MULITPLE BODIES HE'S A FORCE VAMPIRE

REY CAN PHYSICALLY SEE AND MANIPULATE THE FORCE

HER PARENTS ARE DEAD THEY WERE KILLED BY SNOKE WHEN THEY TRIED TO BRING HER TO LUKE FOR TRAINING

KYLO EATS ANAKINS FORCE GHOST AND KILLS IT

A PENGUIN MAKES REY LOSE THE FIGHT TO KYLO

THERES AN X WING ON THE ISLAND

LUKE KILLS ALL OF THE KNIGHTS OF REN IN ONE MOVE

KYLO REY AND LUKE TEAM UP AGAINST SNOKE AT THE VERY END

KYLO IS BEING A SNEAKY SITH

FILM ENDS WITH LUKE FACING OFF AGAINST SNOKE

>>94268493
>KYLO WILL BE INJURED

>REY WILL FIGHT THREE PRAETORIAN GUARDS AND ONE IS FEMALE

>KYLO AND REY WILL FALL IN THE TRASH COMPACTOR(BTW,THERE IS A PLAYSET TOO)

>AT THE BEGINNING OF EPISODE 9 SNOKE WILL TRAVEL IN SPACE AND FIND A SITH CRUISER,IN THAT SHIP HE WILL FIND DARTH REVAN'S BODY AND HE WILL BRING HIM BACK!

>>94268361
When will Hayden come back? Ewan too?

What do you think about Jake Lloyd? Do you feel bad for him?

These better not be real spoilers. Because it's fucking July so how?

>>94268688
I hope he dies! He destroyed my childhood! Original forever!

>>94268691
They were pretty much confirmed by merchandise so... Only the part with Farth Revan is fake.

>>94268703
Kill yourself. You don't deserve to live.

>>94268703
You reminded me why I hate so much this fanbase and any other fanbase. Also,I hate you.

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>>94268774
>>94268835
>/swco/ is autistic enough to take that seriously

>>94268842
So you are with him??? You hate Jake??? Hayden??? Ewan???

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>>94268842

>>94268713
No they weren't. Those spoilers are and always were bullshit.

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>>94268493
Just no....

>>94268926
Just wait. Just wait. Then I will tell you:I told YOU!

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>>94268493

>>94268493
http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1501402388786.jpg

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>>94267541

How do I ban myself from 4chan?

>>94269254
What we did to deserve this?

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>>94269449
The madman

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>>94269449

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>>94269449
WHERE'S THAT THIRD HAND COMING FROM

>>94269536
It's ____your____ hand, Anon.

>>94269564
I don't know... if this won't ban me, what will? Please help me niggers

>>94269564
The hotpocket isn't finished touching himself yet

>>94269583
Spam with naked woman.

what the fuck is going on here?

>>94269653
I have no idea...Old Republic trilogy when?

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>>94269695
its nice that they are still making clone wars sets

>>94269695
Source?

Are you fucking kidding me? Do I need to bloody post more to be banned?

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Are Clones sterile in NuCanon?

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>>94269913
I'd hope they're not.

>Mothma slashed the New Republic's military budget by 90% even though there were still rogue imperials out there.

Those Bothans didn't die for this.

>>94268479
Literally the only correct answer.

>>94268361
Fuck Luke
Marry Luke
Kill the other two

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Daily reminder that Ezra secretly misses being touched by her.

>>94269913
aren't they effectively confirmed not to be with cut lawquane from Clone Wars?

>>94269806
Lego genera!

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he Misse only Sabine

>>94269969
To be fair, we don't know what that 90% was from
If it was from the old Empire's budget I'd argue that was actually pretty reasonable. The Empire must have been spending a grotesque amount of credits on military build up, research and upkeep, ripping that budget to shreds in favour of funding other programs just makes sense. The fact it reinforces the idea that the New Republic won't just collapse back into being the Empire 2.0 like the old Republic while simultaneously putting the onus of defence spending on the NR's individual members is just gravy
Instead of one massive homogeneous fleet you have hundreds if not thousands of disparate local defence forces of varying strengths and tactical focus. Certainly makes for a better defence in depth

>>94270116
I don't think so, both of those kids were way too old to have been born in the time between Cut's desertion and his discovery

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When I was younger I always thought Chuchi wasn't wearing any pants in this episode; no underwear in space...

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>>94270124
Anon, please. He clearly misses SS. You never forget your first time - even if it wasn't exactly voluntary sex.

>>94270176
Imperial pedophiles are for execution, not romance.

>>94269307
>Sheev with a heavy west country accent
I need more of this.

>>94270217
Ezra is space legal - on Mirial

SS is for naughty BDSM sex followed by romantic spooning and hand-holding.

>>94270164
Well anon, your lucky her dick did not slip out beneath her skirt.

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>>94268493
>ANAKIN SKYWALKER IS THE SLOTH CREATURE
>SNOKE HAS MULITPLE BODIES HE'S A FORCE VAMPIRE
>KYLO EATS ANAKINS FORCE GHOST AND KILLS IT
>LUKE KILLS ALL OF THE KNIGHTS OF REN IN ONE MOVE

Is it bad that I ironically want these parts to be real

The force ghost killing part in particular sounds kinda weird, but at the same time it has the potential to be a serious "oh shit what" moment.

>>94268493
>>>/tv/

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>Read Vader solicitations
>Grinky shows up eventually
>No info on other inquisitors

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>94270710
Apparently they will show up as well but in later issues.

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How long will she have to go on her knees and SUCC so Vader and Grinky spare her and take her within their ranks

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>>94267627
too pure for this world

>>94270116
>>94269936
>>94269913
I do not remember any source that says anything about it, but I believe so.
Cut's kids were from a previous husband, I think Dave or Pablo mentioned that.

How do I get banned????

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>>94271044
Turn off your computer and go outside.

Unless you meant, "How DID I get banned????"
In which case it was because you were being a faggot, and should turn off their computer.

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>>94270418
Such rude words!

>>94270710
Because Grinky is the only one who doesn't suck.

>>94271237
>she doesn't deny it

Witwer should be fucking grateful for TFU and Starkiller, he wouldn't be shit without it

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>>94271450
(You)

>hint at the Knights of Ren in TFA, alongside Kylo some of the cooler and more original designs from what we can do
>wipe them out in one scene
>introduce Royal Guard ninja turtles with the same unique melee weapon schtick

Lads, what if Rian's shit?

>>94271605
I think they look good, I'm so tired of people saying 'they're just sheevs guard ugh'

>>94271618
Me too,they started to grow on me.

Also,post Twileks.

>>94271761
>Twilek
What is a Twilek? I'm not a nerd.

>>94271770
the idiot probably meant Ashoka

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wew just snagged an action fleet LAAT and Acclamator for 20 bucks on ebay

opening cargo bay doors mane

>>94271488
Brilliant retort anon you sure showed me

Tell me how does his dick taste?

Starkiller>>>the joke they made Maul into

>>94271861
>characters can't fail because then they are jokes

>characters can't succeed because then they are mary sues

>>94271808
shit I thought I was on /toy/

whatever, barely any difference anyway

>>94271861
>thinking the mary sue who literally pushed Vaders shit in, and then proceeded to dumpster sheev is a better character than maul
You should climb to your number of chromosomes, and then jump to your number of braincells

>>94268493
>KYLO EATS ANAKINS FORCE GHOST AND KILLS IT

Fuck off, let Anakin be at peace.

>>94272292
But I'd rather Obi-Wan and Yoda bust his balls for all eternity.

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So, I just got done playing KOTOR 1 and 2 for the first time, and aside from Kreia and cringy Mandalore stuff, they were pretty decent. Throughout KOTOR 2, all I could think of from the thread in wild spice is Snoke and how easily it could fit with the current space of canon we have. I know the story technically is wrapped up differently in the MMO, but do you guys think Abrams was a hardcore KOTORfag too and made Snoke the person Revan and the Exile went after?

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>>94272473
>do you guys think Abrams was a hardcore KOTORfag too and made Snoke the person Revan and the Exile went after?
>implying JJ cared in any capacity about anything star wars related
He hated 3/6 movies, anon. I doubt he'd even seen the prequels. And I super doubt he had time for two videogames that required you to think about it in any capacity.

>>94271787
Mate, h before s.

>>94272572
>The joke
>you
he mispelled twi'lek

>>94272537
>He hated 3/6 movies

About that - I hate drawing the distinction of "real fans" and "fake fans" for things, but I question calling people who only like two Star Wars movies actual Star Wars fans. It seems there are a lot of those, too, who only like A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.

>>94268493
>KYLO REY AND LUKE TEAM UP AGAINST SNOKE AT THE VERY END
would be kino
>KYLO EATS ANAKINS FORCE GHOST AND KILLS IT
not kino

>>94272631
there is nothing wrong with gatekeeping

>>94272631
He refused to have anything from the prequels in, even to be as petty as to CGI out fucking podracing flags. That's stupid and only served to make the series worse. Why write a retread of the first movie if you're a fan? It just doesn't add up. It's not about real for fake fans, it's about his ego getting the better of him.

and he's said he doesn't like star wars, so yeah.

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Decided to rate all of the canon Star Wars movies and shows on a scale of 1 to 5 lightsabers. The lightsaber scale isn't necessarily the same as a star scale because I'm judging them as Star Wars movies compared to one another and not as movies in general, if that makes sense. Also, I don't give half points, only whole numbers.

>A New Hope
5 lightsabers
>Empire Strikes Back
5 lightsabers
>Return of the Jedi
4 lightsabers
>The Phantom Menace
2 lightsabers
>Attack of the Clones
2 lightsabers
>Revenge of the Sith
4 lightsabers
>The Clone Wars (2008 film)
1 lightsaber
>The Clone Wars (2008 series)
5 lightsabers
>The Force Awakens
2 lightsabers
>Rogue One
4 lightsabers

I'm going to reserve my rating for Rebels until that series concludes, but right now my rating is sitting at 4 lightsabers.

>>94272700
I remember JJ saying when he was confirmed as director for TFA that he didn't actually like Star Trek and that it was really Star Wars that he was a fan of and always wanted to direct for. Do you think that was all a publicity stunt?

>>94272718
>Do you think that was all a publicity stunt?
YES
E
S
he is petty, and doesn't understand what star wars is, just as he doesn't get what Star Trek is.

>>94272631
Honestly? I'd rather have someone who says "there were certainly good ideas in the prequels" directing the ST than JJ "PRACTICAL EFFECTS ALL THE WAY and also let's CGI in Rens mask because Driver is not cute" Abrams

>>94272705
Given your idea for a rating scale I'd probably bump TPM a saber or too, and TFA would sit at a one unless ST content starts getting stellar.
Otherwise pretty spot-on. Only other things I could see spats about are rogue one that high and some like myself and whoever posts that fucking witwer vid that think ROTJ should be on the same pedastal as the other two OT films, not slightly/a lot under.

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>>94272473
>ASIDE from Kreia they were pretty decent
You have to be 18 to post on 4chan

So lets say that the Big Mouse decides to make The Old Republic-era sorta canon, with some changes here and there.
Would you have it as a movie trilogy or a television series akin to The Clone Wars and Rebels but more darker?

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Fuck, Marry Kill?

>>94272718
>>94272741
I remember him saying that he didn't want to make a Star Trek movie for Star Trek fans but that he wanted to make a movie for people who love movies. I'm paraphrasing here, but he said something strange like that.

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>>94272631
Nowadays I don't even pay attention to people who say "ESB is my favorite star wars movie"

>>94272806
It'll never happen anon, just let it go
>>94272829
Fuck Nihilus
Marry Revan
Kill Kylo

>>94272781
Yeah, TPM and TFA were the ones I was having the most trouble with rating. It's hard because I think as a standalone film, TFA is definitely more enjoyable than TPM, but as a Star Wars film, it feels so unnecessary and disappointing. On the other hand, TPM dared to do something different and expanded the lore in great ways. I think you're right though, I think I'll revise the rankings to give TPM 3 lightsabers and TFA 1 - again, not based on a general film score, but how they stack up as Star Wars movies.

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>>94272837
He's a unoriginal hack who normie-afies everything he touches for mass appeal and mass marketing. I remember that too.
fuck, sometimes I KMS myself thinking how good the reboot Star Trek films could have been with the god tier casting, and the pile of SHIT we got still hurts. Pic related is me whenever a normie friend watches an episode of the original series and says 'this is boring and dumb, I'm so glad they remade this garbage'

>>94272741
He said he didn't want to direct VII because he felt he couldn't do the series justice and that Kennedy had to convince him. He doesn't hate Star Wars. He has a very specific and limited idea of what "his" Star Wars is, true, but that doesn't mean that he's out to destroy our precious franchise because he hates it or whatever paranoid conspiracy you dreamed up.

Just because he likes a different side of Star Wars than you do doesn't mean that he isn't a Star Wars fan. The elitism goes both ways.

>>94272861
I unironically liked Beyond. It felt most attuned with the original series.

>>94272861
The first JJ Star Trek movie was the first thing I ever saw from Star Trek and I really disliked it. I remember at the time how everyone was going on about how great it was and I couldn't for the life of me understand what everyone was seeing in it.

>>94272938
>he didn't want to direct VII because he felt he couldn't do the series justice
He was right.

>>94272945
But after ID, I never could give it a chance. It fucking ruined any want to support that dumpsterfire of a series. Is it really worth a watch? They put it on Hulu, and my friend gave me his password
>>94272938
It came off as a skin deep sort of appreciation for the series, like a normie friend who said to me 'I won't see Rogue One, it doesn't have any Jedi in it'. Maybe I'm wrong, but it screams "I did this for a paycheque and bragging rights' all over it

>>94272861
To be honest, I really enjoyed the first reboot movie. It was Into Darkness I really didn't like, the fact that they lied about Khan and nerfed him at that and killed Kirk only to bring him back 15 minutes later with a tribble. Still haven't seen Beyond yet.

>>94272980
If you've got a couple hours it's definitely worth it. The only good movie of nu-Star Trek.

>>94272984
>the fact that they lied about Khan

Why did they even do that? It was basically the worst-kept secret in film history and nobody was convinced he was playing an original character.

>>94273010
>an original character.
>In a JJ film
Oh how naive they were. Did they honestly think he was going to play a no one in the movie? Benedict 'gets all the teenage girls wet' Icantrememberhislastname?

>>94272980
It is a skin deep level of appreciation. But it is an appreciation nonetheless. From his point of view, he did what he could to capture what he considers to be the essence of Star Wars.

This is not an argument of whether his work has the same level of storytelling depth works by people who do care about the setting in its entirety have. It probably doesn't. But I stand by the belief that he did care about his vision of Star Wars and put love and effort into his film, as superficial it might be for people like us.

Both Abrams and Edwards did their best in their own way. If we dismiss Abrams for "not getting Star Wars", we're the same as Mike Stoklasa dismissing Rogue One as mere "fanservice porn". Star Wars means very different things for very different people and perhaps we should not judge.

>>94272984
The first reboot as itself is fine, but it lierally says
>lol remember 4 series of TV shows with and 8 movies? LMAO NONE OF THAT HAPPENEDED ANYMORE

And yes I know
>b-but its an alternate timeline!
Which is stupid as hell, and even more retarded that this technically is a "sequel" because you find out what happens to spock and Romulous after Nemesis.

>>94272800
>Grey jedi lmao XD

Unironically kill yourself.

>>94273093
What do you think about how he literally didn't have a plan beyond this movie, though?
>dismissing Rogue One as mere "fanservice porn". Star Wars means very different things for very different people and perhaps we should not judge.
I don't agree with this statement. I dismiss TFA because it's poorly written, has a rehash of the first two deathstars, and overall, isn't a very good movie on it's own. Rey as a character is fucking bland (not a mary sue, but straddling the line) and Poe is given fuckall reasons for surviving out in the desert. Why didn't he pull Finn out? Why did he just leave him? How the FUCK did he get of Jakku? Why was phasma hyped only to be the butt of an incredibly shitty and demeaning joke? She was literally dumpstered. It leaves a lot of questions unanswered, and is generally unpleasant. I'll give Rogue One, a movie I personally didn't like, that it was more enjoyable. Things made a bit more sense. The first half is choppy and the characters aren't developed as well as some would have liked, but they make sense. I like Kylo ren, and I think he and Hux are salvageable. But I am very iffy on rey.

And TFA literally ended on the shittiest helicopter shot I have ever fucking seen in a major release.

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>Well thought out arguments that haven't resorted to shitflinging
my god, the stuff my dreams are made of

>>94273144
>lol remember 4 series of TV shows with and 8 movies? LMAO NONE OF THAT HAPPENEDED ANYMORE

You know what I just realized? Star Wars fans got off easy. It may have undone a lot of plot points in the original trilogy, but at least TFA doesn't literally overwrite all of the previous movies.

>>94273144
>even more retarded that this technically is a "sequel" because you find out what happens to spock and Romulous after Nemesis.
I don't know, I kinda liked it. And both timelines exist now. Discovery is sticking to the original timeline

>>94273144
>lol remember 4 series of TV shows with and 8 movies? LMAO NONE OF THAT HAPPENEDED ANYMORE
We're living in the worst timeline. We could have had space shenanigans, but instead, got grimdark ''action'' that has nothing to do with the TOS that retroactively rewrites canon

>>94272837
He says in the DVD commentary for his first Star Trek film that his first question in the meeting about the film was "How do we make it more like Star Wars?"

>>94273191
>Poe is given fuckall reasons for surviving out in the desert. Why didn't he pull Finn out? Why did he just leave him? How the FUCK did he get of Jakku?

It was so blatantly obvious that Poe was supposed to die in the original script and that they decided to bring him back halfway through production. They didn't bother writing him into the plot the whole time, they just magically brought him back with the thought that "eh, the comics and books can explain how he survived".

>>94273253
>ANOTHER pre-TOS series so that way they can use the same old plot points and bank on nostalgia while also making it SJW as fuck
No fucking thank you. Call me back when we get content after Nemesis that isn't a fucking MMO.

>>94273144
It's just a different timeline and they could easily go back to the old one if they cared to. Even without the Vulcans I would bet you that most everything in Next Generation or DS9 plays out the same way.

With all this talk of Trek, I'm intrigued to know:

What's the best Trek movie?
What's the best Trek series?
What's the best Trek episode?

>>94273291
I know he was supposed to die, but it doesn't excuse how fucking shittily he was rewritten into the film. I actually like the scene where he is reunited with Finn, it's probably one of my favourites in the movie.
but it was NOT earned. iirc it was because the guy who plays him refused to be in the film if he died, like the fatty who complained to JJ and got written back into it.

>>94272984
Beyond is pretty good, though it's about one action scene too long.

>>94273299
>while also making it SJW as fuck
Hasn't Star Trek always been kinda like that?

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>Star Wars fans got off easy.

No. Old Star Trek has no ties with the new stuff. But the new canon of SW is forever stuck with putrid shit like TFA, and probably the entire sequel trilogy.

>>94273313
FRESH HOT OPINION, COMING THROUGH
>Best Movie
Star Trek II, all the way
>Best Series
I'm partial to TOS, but TNG was good too
>Best Trek episode
Trouble with Tribbles, hands down.

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>>94267541
Random thought.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that the "Force Tree" look like the rebellion logo.

>>94273330
Yes. He's complaining because there's female characters in it, as though star trek, the series known for the first interracial kiss on television and for having a non-stupid non-inconsequential black woman on the cast has always been this shining beacon of non-politics
someone post the comic where kirk says "and yet I, a white man, am captain. Look at how progressive we are'

>>94273299
>making it SJW as fuck

Star Trek was always ridiculously progressive for its time. You wouldn't think of it now but the fact that there was a show in the '60s with a black woman in a major role who wasn't a maid or a servant was groundbreaking.

>>94273313
>What's the best Trek movie?
Forbidden Planet
>What's the best Trek series?
DS9
>What's the best Trek episode?
City on the Edge of Forever

>>94273191
The quality of the picture wasn't really the point of the discussion. Whether Abrams cares about the series or not was. People said that Abrams hates Star Wars. Whether TFA was a well written, well directed movie, did not really enter this particular discussion.

>What do you think about how he literally didn't have a plan beyond this movie, though?
That's how Lucasfilm does these things. Rian Johnson didn't plan for IX either.

>>94273347
you're late

/stco/ - Star Trek Comics & Cartoons

>>94273178
>DUDE MORAL DICHOTOMY LMAO
Shouldn't you be studying for your word test little boy?

>>94273313
>Best movie
Voyage Home (though I just saw First Contact again and really enjoyed it)

>Best series
With a gun to my head it's DS9. Love TNG's characters but they have more complete storylines in DS9 and all the characters play well together.

>Best episode
That's rough.

In the Pale Moonlight
Trials and Tribble-ations
Best of Both Worlds
City on the Edge of Forever
Chain of Command
Blink of an Eye

I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

>>94273405
Conversation is stale, we don't have much star wars to talk about
>>94273379
Good taste

>>94273347
A
FUCKING
TREE

>>94273393
>Rian Johnson didn't plan for IX either.
Lucas didn't fucking plan far with what he was doing for the OT too.

>>94269936

I know shipper scum will ship anything with anything, but Ahsoka/Rex never made much sense to me.

>>94273432
I ship Vader/Tarkin it's all about deluding yourself

>>94273253
>Discovery is sticking to the original timeline

That's just what they are saying to keep the fans quiet.

It's actually going to be separate as that's the only way to get it done without another licence negotiation.

>>94273360
>B-but Star Trek is always progressive!

Shut the fuck up. Just because they had a nigger on the show and kiss doesn't mean shit when the rest of the series aren't like that. TNG, DS9, etc aren't progressive and don't necessarily push a narrative outside of it's universe. All the promotional articles and news about this new series has been nothing but SJW garbage.

>>94272631
>It seems there are a lot of those, too, who only like A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.

Guilty, although Rogue One worked its way into my heart.

>>94273460
tng was literally an sjw communist screed

>>94272631
What if I don't like ANH as well as all the other SW movies except ESB which I only vaguely enjoy? What type of fan am I considered?

>>94273460
>Just because they had a nigger on the show and kiss
Oh my fucking god, do you now know how fucking controversial that was? Of course not, because you're a /pol/ shitposter who can't admit gays and women exist. Go back to (((>>>/pol/)))

>>94273460
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tQcLLfzzKWA


https://io9.gizmodo.com/apparently-you-cant-say-god-on-star-trek-1797301585

Godless humans vs the Devout Klingons

Yea that's gonna come off okay.

>>94273502
>*tips enterprise* M'space

>>94273476
All of Star Trek society is communist, that's just what the series is. It doesn't actually push an agenda. That's like saying Star Wars is promoting fascism when it focuses on the Empire.

Give me an example where Picard looks at the camera and says "Capitalism is evil and we need to overthrow the bourgeoisie."

>>94273460
ye but why u mad tho?

>>94273502
But the vulcans are incredibly spiritual. What the fuck

>>94273492
Why are you here?

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Why did Vader train her to be into little boys?

>>94273496
>1 episode in a 1960's show means that the other 400 episodes and 10 movies spread over 60 years is SJW filth

Really fires the neurons.

>>94273518
http://www.friesian.com/trek.htm
>Too much of Star Trek has always reflected trendy leftist political sentiments. It was appropriate that John Lennon's "Imagine" should have been sung at the 30th Anniversary television special: Capitalism and religion get little more respect from Star Trek than they do from Lennon. Profit simply cannot be mentioned without a sneer. The champions of profit, the Ferengi, not only perceive no difference between honest business, piracy, and swindle, but their very name, the Hindi word for "European," (from Persian Farangi, , i.e. "Frank"), seems to be a covert rebuke to Western civilization.

also I don't know why you're complaining about Uhura when Worf and Sisko (aka the only good characters outside of TOS besides Data) are black

>>94273546
I like Star Wars vidya and occasionally enjoy Star Wars comics and cartoons. IMO the movies aren't that good, its in the content that orbit it where the real gems can be found.

>>94273313

Movie: FC or TWoK
Series: DS9 if you like war; TOS otherwise
Episodes: too many good ones

>>94273568
>Having a main character be black at all
>Or an asian
you just lost the game jimbo

>>94273530
Yea as is most the races. Even the Ferengi believe one day they'll have their money making venture tallied in the afterlife.

Its gonna be awkward.

>>94273405
/polco/ - Political Comics and Cartoons

Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars movie in my opinion.

>>94273611
I certainly enjoyed it more than ANH, and all other SW movies except for ESB.

>>94273569
When did I complain about black people?

>>94273569
>meanwhile ID was literally about a guy who wanted to start a forever war because it would make money

>>94273530
>>94273594
>At the same time, one can find little in the way of acknowledgement of the role of religion in life that, whether in India or in Europe, would be essential. Although exotic extraterrestrials, like the Klingons and Bajorans, have quaint religious beliefs and practices, absolutely nothing seems to be left of the historic religions of Earth: There are no Jews, no Christians, no Moslems, no Buddhists, no Hindus, no Jains, no Confucians, and no Sikhs, or anything else, on any starship or settlement in the Federation. Star Trek is, not to put too fine a point on it, what the Nazis called "Judenfrei," free of Jews [note], a condition that Marx also anticipated with the death of Capitalism -- though Leonard Nimoy did introduce, subversively, the hand sign of the Hebrew letter "shin," , to signify the Trek benediction, "Live long and prosper," . With no practitioners, there are no chaplains for the crew -- no ministers, no priests, no rabbis, no mullas, no brahmins, no monks, no nuns. The closest thing to religious advice is the tedious psycho-babble of counselor Troi. The absence of traditional human religions stands in stark contrast to the more recent, shortlived science ficiton series, Firefly (which, however, doesn't seem to have any Jews either).
> Even the aforementioned religious beliefs and practices of the Klingons and Bajorans seem to consist of little more than ritual and mythology, and one is left with the impression that respect for such things is motivated more by cultural relativism than by a sense that they might contain religious truths of interest to others. The Star Trek universe is one without religious truths -- where the occasional disembodied spirit can be explained away with talk about "energy" or "subspace."
nothing new with TNG faggotry, but again DS9 wasn't so bad about it (based Sisko)

>>94273641
>Just because they had a nigger on the show and kiss doesn't mean shit when the rest of the series aren't like that.
eat shit

>>94273518
>All of Star Trek society is communist

Nah, it's post scarcity socialism. People do all the same shit, there's strong government and regulations, but just no "money".

Borg are an example of Communism of a malevolent kind. If the Borg left everyone alone and only assimilated willing cultures/species, then they'd be benevolent Communism.

>>94273611
Revenge of the Sith had some of the worst writing/acting in the series outside of that one theater scene everyone loves. Also just like Attack of the Clones every scene where Padme and Anakin were on screen together was physically painful.

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Kylo a cute!

>>94273695
>Padme and Anakin were on screen together was physically painful.
Please, for the love of god, don't say that. You'll summon the anon who projected about how women like sensitive serial-killer vibe throwing men

>>94273668
True but they are going with a very stark contrast since their foe in Discovery is a very ancient Klingon house that is deeply religious.

True it never had much play outside of some ceremonies and the Bajorian prophecy stories. Bug this one religion is a main point.

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>>94273683
>not real communism
lmaooooooooo

>>94273668
Again, when did I say it was a bad thing? I was saying the rest of ALL Star Trek isn't progressive.
Learn to read dumb nigger.

>>94273668
>based Sisko
Some of the worst DS9 episodes were ones where Sisko went "Black people have had it rough, yo." Especially during the last season where he just was inserting his feelings on race in a lot of things ("I can't go into this holodeck program because they didn't like black people back then")

>>94273724

Borg is real communism, which I said.

The Federation are socialists.

>>94273683
Not so much as no money. Just it's not the driving force and the Vulcan Science fixed the economy somehow.

>>94273611
That's not a bad opinion
Keep posting

>>94273313
>What's the best Trek movie?
I really like First Contact and The Voyage Home. Wrath of Khan is amazing too.
>What's the best Trek series?
TOS
>What's the best Trek episode?
So many greats to choose from. I can't choose one so I'll pick ten:

Arena
The Visitor
The Offspring
Duet
Mirror, Mirror
Year of Hell
The Best of Both Worlds
Space Seed
The Devil in the Dark
Far Beyond the Stars

>>94273695
>Revenge of the Sith had some of the worst writing/acting in the series

>>>/tv/
>>>/tv/
>>>/tv/
>>>/tv/
>>>/tv/
>>>/tv/

>>94273717
Oh I'm not questioning how the two of them got together. That part hasn't bothered me. They just had very little in the way of chemistry and the dialogue between them was always awful. Not even talking about sand but things like the "Are you saying love has blinded you" bullshit balcony scene in 3.

>>94273730
That's what happens when you let magic space hole aliens nest in your brain.

>>94273730
I should say "relatively based" in the sense that he's as infinitely superior to Picard as he is infinitely inferior to Kirk, who is the true king of captains (excluding Jason Nesbitt of the NSEA Protector)

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>>94273550
>Anakin loved being /ss/ed as a kid
>it is somehow suprising that his Inquisitors are child diddlers as well
Anon, please...it's all about pic related

>>94273795
>excluding Jason Nesbitt of the NSEA Protector
He's a phony!

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What the hell has this debate devolved into?

>>94273819
>t. Sarris

>>94273695
Fuck off

>>94273824
I can't have an opinion?

>>94273857
Why are you so racist? My girlfriend is black too.

>>94273860
A chance for some easy credits from the ISB?

>>94273923
His kickass lightsaber

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>>94273923
because he's the only child of God that's also actually God

>>94273927
this desu

>>94273882
Too many facts for you?

>>94273945
But doesn't God live in all things?

>>94273824
>>94273857
>>94273904
You are the one who doesn't deserve to live. Look,I'm atheist so I don't care about your shit but when you come here and start swearing, calling people evil because they enjoy the prequels,that's not cool. Btw,I love Revenge of the Sith. Bye!

>>94273965
Your shitty opinions arent facts, they're just arguementbait

No loose wire jokes.

>>94273939
Oh,come on.

What the hell just happened?

>>94273986
>>94274008
Thank you ISB!

>>94273695
This is just my opinion okay. Revenge of the Sith is my favorite of all of them.

>>94273991
Not trying to bait anyone, it's just my response to people saying RotS is their favorite movie. I can't understand why.

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>>94273986
>I'm atheis
Start going to church and stop sinning anon.

>>94274068
I like it. I enjoyed it the most. There are some flaws but it's still good. Can someone respect my opinion?

>>94273986
absolutely haram!

>>94274068
This general is the Star Wars community trashcan for stupid opinions

>>94274098
Sure.

>>94274068
Its the emotional climax of the story where the most important events of the saga happens, with some of the greatest visuals, and by far the more impressive choreography of the saga. (inb4 "hurr looks leik dance durrr")

>>94274121
Fuck off back to /tv/ then

I will respect anybody's opinion for favorite piece of Star Wars media as long as it's not TFA or ESB. TFA because it's trash and undeserving, ESB because it's a normie indicator and tell for OT purist EUfags who don't really like star wars in the first place.

>>94274154
What if I have a good well thought out reason for ESB being my favourite movie?

>>94274173
If you are able to justify it beyond "it was darker and more mature ;^)" or "le epic plot twist ftw XD" then yes, I'll respect your opinion that ESB is the best movie. There are a lot of justifications for ESB being your favorite, but without qualification, it's typically indicative of a fake nerd trying to fit in.

>>94274185
I'm starting to think YOU are the shieldgate anon

>>94274218
>When everyone is the shieldgate anon no one is

>>94274154
So what's the best choice then for "favorite piece"?

New Hope is just an indicator of some die hard oldfag where "nothing is better than the first one"

Return of the Jedi might be acceptable but it's also flooded with people trying to be contrarian.

Prequels are just bait.

And Rogue One is just normies jacking off to the Vader scene at the end.

>>94274154
And here we go again.

>you're not a Star Wars fan as long as you like the things I don't

>>94274218
You're free to think that, that's the peril of an anonymous image board - no security from accusations of samefagging. However he's been so thoroughly BTFO by everybody in every thread yet he keeps coming back for more in a decreased mental state and inarticulate manner. This is his latest manic outburst.

>>94274250
Fuck you, ANH is my favourite, and RO is tied with a prequel for second place

I like all star wars films, except TFA (which was meh at best). What kind of a fan am I?

>>94274250
Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith are usually the best indicators of a strong fan.

Someone who can look past the obvious flaws to praise the strongest and most important chapters in the saga, with the most significant worldbuilding that positively expands the saga.

>>94274250
>And Rogue One is just normies jacking off to the Vader scene at the end
Space battle that looks better than ROTJ visually > Vader scene

>>94274250
At this point, no matter what you like, someone will shit on it.

The point is to like what you like, and don't let the shitting get to you

>>94274275
>I like all star wars films, except TFA
>What kind of a fan am I?
A good one <3

>>94274250
The answer is that all of Star Wars sucks and all possible preferences are just fake pretensions.

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>>94274250
Excuse me, I jack myself off to krennic

>>94274128
The good choreography really only applies to the final fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan and even then it got pants on head retarded after they left the station and started swinging on ropes at each other. Dooku/Anakin was okay too but Grevious/Obi-Wan and Windu/Sheev were just far too many close up shots of the combatant's faces rather than showing the actual fight.

Can definitely agree with the visuals, I wish they'd showed more of the space fight at the beginning.

>>94274154
What's wrong with ESB?

>>94274250
All Star Wars media, from the movies to the cartoons to the comics to the books, can be considered "best" and I'll respect such an opinion. The only exceptions to this are TFA, which is currently in a state of shit but might be retroactively redeemed by episodes 8 and 9, and ESB, which has been for so long critically acclaimed without any real understanding of its importance and with disdain for the rest of the franchise, that it needs an explanation or else I'd simply consider the person claiming that it's best not worth intelligent conversation. ESB can be considered best, but if you can't explain why, you're probably an RLM redditor or capeshit fan.

>>94274284
I agree but whenever you talk about Rogue One the first five things anyone will talk about is that Vader scene. People that like it will gush about how awesome it was while people that hate it will talk about how it makes Vader look like an idiot.

>>94274351
The Force Awakens is the best movie ever! God said that!

>>94274353
I still think that Rogue One's final two minutes were a perfect ending to the movie. Without them, the movie would have just ended on a downer note. They needed that exhilarating Vader scene to end on a high note.

>>94274308
Shut up Galen

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Why was George so obsessed with jungle-bunnies and older women paired with younger man

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>>94274467
I don't know but whatever the reason I agree with it

>>94274351
>TFA, which is currently in a state of shit but might be retroactively redeemed by episodes 8 and 9

I think this is possible. So much of TFA is up in the air because we don't know how the rest of the trilogy is going to pan out and a lot of it is a mystery. Whatever happens, The Last Jedi is going to make or break the trilogy. If it's another dud, then this sequel trilogy is forever a bust. However, it's totally possible that 8 and 9 will make 7 feel completely worth it, and maybe in a few years after all is said and done, we will be glad TFA happened.

>>94274478
Loris looks like one of the muses from Hercules.

Can we please nuke this thread admin

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>>94274514
aka those semen demons that gave me a boner as a child

What the hell happened to this thread?

>>94274547
Some racist/christian original trilogy fag started to shitpost.

>>94274547
Shield-gate anon has finally cracked and gone off the deep-end and is so dedicated to shitposting in /swco/ that he ban evades with a thousand proxies.

We had an actual mod performing janitorial duty for the past few days (finally) but its no longer effective.

>>94274512
I still think that TFA will forever have a shadow over it for just being New Hope again. Whether it's forgiven by people that hate it for that simply because it lays the foundation for better movies will be seen soon.

>>94274547
>>94274579
I'm 99% sure it's just some butthurt /tv/ retard trying his hardest to get the thread nuked

>>94274458
I like them quite a lot too, and I wish they'd had a little more time with the rewrites of the ending to really solidify the scene to have it make a little more sense (rather than Leia being there for no reason). But I still enjoyed it and Rogue One in general quite a lot.

>>94274596
Yeah but he's been doing that every single thread for about 2 months.

>>94274583
Yeah, even if TLJ/IX lore justifies all of the shit in TFA, it will never change the fact that TFA was so void of original concepts that it is generally worthless to the saga.

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>>94274583
As someone who actually likes TFA, I can honestly say that I just want to move forward. You can't attempt to discuss the ST without a legion of shitposters wheeling out the same old rehash and Mary Sue arguments. The community is poisoned.

It really is no different from the prequel discourse that only got better in the last few years. No matter how hard you tried, someone always dragged out Jar Jar and such and started beating the dead horse again. SW fandom just can't break away from its stale whipping boys.

>>94274547

What happens to most threads? /pol/ shit. It's always /pol/ shit.

>>94274772
I agree. I actually really like TFA but I'm just so unable to talk about it. I casually brought up Han dying during a completely different conversation and someone went on a 10 minute rant about how it was the worst fanfic tier thing that had ever happened above the most meaningless Star Wars Bottomless Pit ever.

>>94274498
go back to /pol/

>>94274583

Sadly, TLJ is looking like a not-TESB

I remember the first real leaks about TFA and how LFL was disappointed in that they remade ANH -- everyone called it shit, but here we are.

>>94274772
>>94274821
Yeah, /swco/ hates OT purists who act like the prequels raped their childhood without realizing that they are acting just as obnoxious and immature as them regarding the sequels.

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>yfw the Viscount saves the day in TLJ

>>94274915

>implying that's not a false flagging SJW

>>94273191
>Rey as a character is fucking bland (not a mary sue, but straddling the line)

I agree with this. I posted in the last thread how I believe the Sue claims are a little too overstated as she does have some legit flaws (the fact that she ran away from the lightsaber and her destiny instead of instantly embracing it was a big sign that there's a bit more to her character than perfection) but there is no way I'm going to say she is a well-written character and some of the things that happen to her are a bit too convenient. I do think it's totally possible for TLJ to redeem her though.

>>94275023

Doesn't look like we're getting much in the way of NR/Resistance super ships in TLJ, with the only one being the Super Ultra Mega Destroyer that Snoke rides around in.

Around Hosnian, it looks like the NR fleet's biggest were Mon Cal stuff. The NR probably kept Mon Cal working on the same stuff until they felt like no need to buy anymore.

>>94275086
>Mon Cal stuff

That's Home One-sized as biggest

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daily reminder that people who call TFA unoriginal thirty years later in the universe love garbage like this a thousand years ago

>>94275156
>People
We are not a hive mind

>>94275156
comfy ship though.

I got good lekku lovins in there. Good times.

>>94275156
No I dont, the shitty Legends TOR aesthetics are unoriginal as fuck. Not quite as bad as TFA in terms of ripping off the OT, but still rediculous in the context of the saga.

>>94275182
/swco/ is very much one big dumb hivemibd

>>94275204
>Not quite as bad as TFA in terms of ripping off the OT
>sith ride around in TIE fighters and live in a death star city while the republic has stormtrooper esque soldiers

Yeah no.

>>94275156

Kotor/TOR really make the SW universe look stagnant. Like the Galaxy hit its technological peak millennia ago and it hasn't changed much except politically.

>>94275251
TFA had literal TIE Fighters, so yeah.

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>>94275281
Thankfully that isn't happening again

>>94275156

TFA is unoriginal and uninspired, and I dislike TOR/KOTOR.

So, checkmate, Gungan.

>>94275156
Reminder that the reason why TOR and KOTOR I are inferior to KOTOR II are the same reason why TFA is inferior to the other movies.
Reminder KOTOR I is one of the most normie Star Wars vidya.

>>94275324
KoTOR II is arguably worse though.

Plus, it spawned all the fedora tippers who think they (& bioware) knows Star Wars better than Lucas/Lucasfilm

>>94275293

And X-Wings. Literal copy and pasted X-Wings and TIEs, with hardly any difference.

At least the prequels showed a nice design evolution that led to the OT. TFA should followed the same evolution tree.

Ren's TIE doesn't look too bad.

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>Makes a character who's only trait is "lol I'm gay"
>gets mad when people call it shit
Is Wendig autistic?

>>94275104
The Viscount was about the size of an Executor SSD

>>94275345
Even Rogue One showed more original evolution of design than TFA.

The Prequels gave us a very appropriate and acceptable display of how vehichle aesthetics in the military factions progressed over a set amount of time, but TFA threw it out the window and decided "shiny X-Wings and TIE's" were enough.

>>94275369
Chuck Wendig more like KEK WENDICK

>>94275311

Pablo is a faggot and has put his old WEG shit into Rebels because he got butthurt over Saxton calling it shit

>>94275369
Wendig is pretty autistic, im sure of it.

Thankfully he never really harmed Star Wars, he's probably going to fade away into obscurity now.

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>>94275412
Hello, you! Upvoted!

>>94275369
He's bad, but he's not Traviss bad. remember her spergouts about Jedi?

>>94275369
I'm not straight and I hate how Chuck Wendig thinks he can speak on behalf of people like me.

What's the best "hero ship" that isn't the Falcon?

>>94275452

He's a petty faggot that hates anyone that doesn't subscribe to the old WEG shit.

Chee was fine, though.

>>94275516

Shuttle Tydirium

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>>94275516
This one

>>94275516
The Ghost, hands down.

It's a comfy flying diamond that can home a family, has s fighter pod attatchment, a garage for speeder bikes, and its BULKY AS FUCK, and even tore shit up at Scariff.

>>94274154
All of the OT movies were good anon even though you do have a point with OT purists and normies but that doesn't really detract from the movie.

It's really frustrating that the Mouse is being so safe and sterile with the NT. People will eat anything up as long as it has "Star Wars" stamped on it and they should know that. They don't have to rely so much on nostalgia to get by.

>>94275654
JJ =/= The mouse

He made a shitty nostalgia-bait movie because thats all he wanted to do. Let Lucasfilm actually make another ST ovie so you can more appropriately judge it.

Do any of you have any embarassing Star Wars related stories?

I used to wear a single black glove in school because I wanted to be cool like Anakin.

Nobody would say anything, and the teachers never asked me to remove it, like they would with other people wearing gloves.

I later found out that everyone thought I was a burn victim and I was hiding my scars.

Kind of poetic if you think about it.

Is it bad that I enjoyed Revenge of the Sith and love The Clone Wars?

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>>94275369
Not as autistic as this guy.

Are in Star Wars some good looking black women?

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>>94275345
Old Imperials and Rebels using updated X Wings and TIEs is more offensive to you than THOUSAND YEAR OLD TIE FIGHTERS? I wish my brain was peanut sized like yours you fucking toy worshipping peasant.

>wahhh my hot wheels ship is too similar to the last one!!!

>>94275742
No, that sounds like one of the most appropriate and normal opinions a Star Wars fans could have.

Both of those things are great.

>>94275794
>bad grammer anon
like clockwork

>>94275787
The Galaxy is simply understandably hostile towards the beings that caused three years of horrible wars.
I'd lynch a mon cal too if I saw one whistle at my bae.

>>94275787
Lol
Myself as a white male I'm married with a black woman and the only thing I can say: It was the best part of my life. Not only that but she loves the prequels too. Some people like that christian guy need to be open minded.

>>94275433
Nope, he has new material coming out in the 40th anniversary anthology novel
>>94275787
>Empire is made up of a diverse population
>lol fuck minorities it's white supremacy

>>94275889
Bullshit

>>94275927
Thats just one short story out of 40. They probably grabbed any Lucasfilm writer that wasn't already busy on another book.

Wendig mentioned at Celebration that he has no Star Wars plans beyond that short story, so we're probably good.

>>94275787
Everyone forgets that he deleted that immediately and apologized, admitting it was an ignorant thing to say.

>>94268361
Fuck Annie
Marry Luke and live happily ever after
Leave Kylo dead in the worst way imaginable

>>94276004
Oh thank Christ

>>94275889
George, please stop shitposting on 4chan and force Disney to hire you on as a consultant.

>>94276022
The people who got triggered by that don't care. Hell, it's not even the factual inaccuracy of the statement that twisted their panties. Hell most of the ones who got assblasted probably don't actually follow Star Wars closely enough to even realize it was factually inaccurate.

>>94276149
It's like the people trying to argue that a black guy couldn't be a stormtrooper because they were all Jango clones, despite the fact that by the time the first TFA teaser dropped it was already established that clones were phased out and the OT stormtroopers were all recruits.

>>94276144
How do you know that he is George?

>>94275433
>he never really harmed Star Wars,
>'ok so we can tell the story of how the Empire fell and set up 30 years of potential books leading to TFA. What do you got?'
>'Uhh everything turns into TFA a month after ROTJ. Oh and Mon Mothma is retarded.'

>>94275069
I feel like Rey fell victim to both the Mystery box wrapping her backstory in an unnecessary cipher and part to the film just being designed to be as accessible as possible.

She's the main protagonist. They had to sell her and I think they overreacted a bit in doing so. And they did it again with Jyn last year, so I'm pretty confident in my assumptions. The thing is, if people didn't end up out of the theater liking her at least a little bit, then they'd have the same problem DC has now with a Batman who is a murderous dick and an opaque, distant alien Superman headlining their cinematic universe. So they really subdued her flaws and personality to make her an approachable audience surrogate.

She actually has a plenty of negative traits. She's hotheaded and shorttempered, arrogant and overconfident, delusional and stubborn, naive and gullible, craves validation and approval, has a deep-seated lone wolf survivalist underachiever mindset and a fear of relying on others. That's all there, but it's just like flashes of actual personality you have to spot between the film's constant attempts at endearing her to you. Just compare her presentation to Finn, who didn't have nearly as much riding on him, and so they fleshed him out as a more flawed individual. And again, same with Jyn, who underwent adjustments to remove her militant, standoffish, rebellious attitude, compared to Cassian, who can just murder his allies left and right and no one bats an eyelash.

I hope that now that she's comfortably set up as the face of the franchise, Rian will feel more comfortable in dirtying her up. The foundation is there, the potential is there. She is a rather nuanced character at her core - they just have to do something with it.

>>94276406
Most of that wasn't his idea, though. All of his OCs being annoying shits is his doing, but the setting going to shit to set up TFA wasn't his doing.

>>94276406
I dont like Aftermath, but that is a gross misrepresentation of what happened.

>>94276429
>Batman who is a murderous dick and an opaque, distant alien Superman
Proving you know nothing about comics.

>>94276504
I was arguing from the general audience's viewpoint to stress a point. That is the negative impression majority carries to Justice League.

For the record, I quite like both Man of Steel and BvS and Cavill is my husbando.

>>94276429
The thing is, I don't think any character in Star Wars history has garnered as much seething hatred as Rey has, so no matter what happens to her in TLJ - she could become the most three-dimensional character ever written for all we know - people are still going to despise her and call her a Sue just out of principle. People's minds are made.

>>94276429
Why is /swco/ fine with Jyn but has a hatred for Rey though? I haven't seen a quarter of the "SUUUUUUUE" shit for Jyn as I do for Rey.

>>94276806
We had people who hated Anakin come around to appreciate his character more after TCW. And I would certainly say that she's hated far less than Anakin was after AotC. If anything, she's more polarizing than outright hated, while absolutely everyone grouped up on poor Hayden.

So I don't see any character, any reputation as unsalvageable.

>>94276916
Because Jyn dies.

Why do people still hate Hayden and Jake Lloyd? I feel bad for them.

>>94276916
We know like 85%+ of Jyn's life now and she dies in her prime after barely accomplishing her main goal.

>>94276351
>White man
>Black Wife
>Both love prequels
It just fits all the ticks of George.

>>94276916
Jyn is cute

>>94276916
Because Jyn isn't a Mary Sue.

She does not have the role of the force weilder, no that was chirrut. She was not the most proficient with a blaster, that was Baze. She was not the pilot, for that was Bohdi. She was not loved by every character as soon as they meet her; In fact Cassian was antagonistic to her until the final act, and the Rebellion outcasted her.

She is beaten up, and saved by men, just as often as she saved them.

And if you want to throw in Rebel Rising, you can also see the life she had that led to this.

Can all of this be said for Rey? Hell-to-themother-fucking NO.

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>>94273695
>Revenge of the Sith had some of the worst writing/acting in the series outside of that one theater scene everyone loves.

>>94276806
People came around to Ahsoka. She used to be the big OMG MARY SUE character, but as she developed you saw less people calling her that. It got to the point where it was easy to tell who hadn't even watched the show because they were still accusing her of being a Mary Sue (and often citing things she never did, like beating Grievous).

I think Rey's a more uphill battle just because she has less time than Ahsoka did. Ahsoka had several seasons to progress, Rey has around 4 hours of movie time to turn it around.

>>94277169
You're like that's a bad thing

>>94277193
Fair enough.

>>94275728
>Wanted to be cool like Anakin

I guess it shows the differences in our ages when my first though was that you wanted to be like Luke.

When I was in college I got in a big argument with one of my coworkers about how he was misquoting the "I am your father" line. We polled customers for a laugh about who was right. He declared he'd go home and watch the scene that night and then the next day he tried to troll me about it.

>>94277056
Because they're visible objects for people to latch onto rather than the director in the background. Generally actors are blamed rather than thinking about things like writing quality and direction.

>>94277232
>a character literally says "From my point of view, [the good guys] are evil"
>not one of the worst lines of all time

>>94277588
It's not, but whatever.

>>94277588
>Jedi
>good guys
You're funny, anon.

>>94277658
It completely undermines everything that has happened before it is said.
The whole point of showing Anakin's fall to the darkside was for us to see why he acted in the way he did. Why did he become Darth Vader? That's the point of the story. That's the whole arc of his character.

When he fights Obi Wan on Mustafar, he has finished that transformation in all the ways that mattered.
Anakin going "I am evil because I think you are actually the evil ones" is firstly redundant, secondarily insulting, and thirdly it undercuts what we've already seen by not having it have stand on its own
George must have thought "... Do you think the audience gets that Anakin doesn't like the Jedi? Hmm... Maybe not.... I better have him say that they're evil. But that might confuse people, because the Jedi aren't really evil, so let's have him say that only from his point of view, they're evil. Just like how Obi-Wan says that he only lied from a certain point of view."

I think can honestly not think of a worse line anywhere else.

>>94277788
It's supposed to show the delusion Anakin is going through. Same shit happens to Vos in Dark Disciple, the Dark Side literally clouds your judgement.

Anakin was desperate, desperate to convince himself that he was still a hero. He went three years of being praised as the greatest hero in the Clone Wars, and had just been confronted by his wife who was saying he was doing bad things.

He wasn't trying to convince Obi-Wan, he was trying to convince himself.

>>94277839
Oh I get what Anakin is going through.
I'm not saying a single thing about that.

I'm talking about the line. I know WHY it was written.
I'm saying that it's total shit.
Because Anakin attacking Obi-wan says everything already.
He already killed fucking CHILDREN and George feels the need to tell us that Anakin doesn't like the Jedi?