DC Comics @ SDCC Day 2 Discussion Thread

>>94046790
Thanks buddy

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First for Time Displaced Legionnaires

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Is Orlando actually there or was that a mistake?

>>94046845
I like this better than whatever the fuck is going on in Supergirl and Imra showing up only once a year. Hopefully Lemire doesn't fuck it up.

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>>94046790
pls tell me that the Dark Matter books will sell decently... I want them to succeed...

>>94046873
Lemire is like the biggest LoSHfag

>>94046915
Which worries me, because his use of them in JLU kinda sucked, like the rest of the book.

>As previously announced, DiDio reiterated that the series would not feature variant covers, and they will all cost $2.99.
based

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>>94046915
I know.

And as troubling as his JLU ultimately was, I feel like Dream Girl was well characterized (she's basically the only one who said anything memorable though). He will probably treat Tinya well enough but I hope it's not another clusterfuck.

>>94046942
>Lee said he likes variant covers - "More covers, more work." But instead of variant covers, the first issues will launch with two covers in a three-fold gatefold, allowing an expanded vertical presentation unique to comic books.
I don't like this. Makes reading digital a pain.

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>Kevin Nowlan on inks

What a waste.

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>>94046966

>Going from 5YL to Legion Lost

>>94047026
>no Bierbaums
>no middling, though kind of fun, early 2/3s of Reboot

he did nothing wrong

>A young fan asked a series of rapid fire questions about the JSA and how they might relate to Damage and Mr. Terrific, getting cagey answers. Venditti and Lemire told the fan that he's on the right track, but couldn't confirm the connections.
JSA soon

>>94047051

Early reboot is fun stuff with early kid versions of the team. Totally worth reading and sets up the darkness of the DnA stuff.

You're 1000% right about the Buerbaums

>>94046966
Are those custom bound collections? Nice, good for him.

>>94047087
I imagine we'll get LOSH, JSA, Shazam, those Titans/Teen Titans/Young Justice book Rich was speculating about, and other stuff that's been building up to by the time Doomsday Clock is over.

>Duke Thomas is getting his own series entitled "Batman: The Signal" co-written by Tony Patrick. The Signal will be Gotham's "hero by day."

>>94047026
BEST TASTE

>Duke Thomas is getting his own series entitled "Batman: The Signal" co-written by Tony Patrick. The Signal will be Gotham's "hero by day."
There, now idiots can stop thinking Duke is one of the already-announced heroes.

>>94047091
I enjoyed it but I feel like it wasn't really doing much until like the climax of the Dark Circle stuff. I bought the trade anyway, but I get not binding it.

>>94047020
Hitch's art might actually become bearable or maybe even good again.

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>>94047198

Excited for his archenemy

>>94047228

also had it been previously collected? a lot of what's bound is still only in floppies iirc

Thanks for making this thread anon, I'll do a recap in 10 minutes.

>>94046966
did he really go through the trouble of custom binding stuff but still writing copiel instead of coipel

>The final question came in about Duke Thomas from a fan, and Snyder took the opportunity to announce that Batman: The Signal will be Duke’s new book, written with a DC Talent Workshop alum named Tony Patrick. Duke’s superhero name is, officially, “The Signal” and he will be, according to Snyder, “Gotham’s hero by day.”
Seriously? The Signal?

>>94047321
>Seriously? The Signal?
Better than Robin.

>>94046845
But which versions

>>94047280
I think there may have been one early trade but also I think Levitz/Giffen had a few too so it doesn't totally explain it. Would assume the bounded ones are mostly personal preference though.

>>94047318
Hope he got a discount on that.

>>94047280
the archenemy will be Virtue Signal

>>94047318

looks like it's only wrong on the first one, probably the binders he used fucked it up

>>94047321
>written with a DC Talent Workshop alum named Tony Patrick.
Interesting

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Since both of Snyder's creations failed, I want something special. You know how in Legends of Tomorrow Rip Hunter picked up nobodies to go with him on time traveling adventures? I want that to happen, but with failed OC Doughnut Steels so they can have one last hurrah in a blaze of glory death.

>>94047321
I wonder how long this book will last.

>>94047457
That used to be what Suicide Squad was for but it got too popular

>>94047321
>has to have batman in the name so it'll sell enough to get more than 6 issues
lol

>>94047471
>Snyder's creation
>batman in the name
>black character
>black writer
12 issues at a minimum unless it sells realllllly bad, then probably just 6 or 7

>>94047499
All those poor casuals that will buy it tricked into thinking they are buying a book about the bat signal will be so disappointed.

>>94047457
good idea
>Onyx
>Orpheus
>Harper
>Duke
>Faith (of JLA fame)
>Miiyahbiin or whatever her name was

>>94047457
>>94047499
>>94047528
>>94047542
t. faggots that read characters that sell like shit

Reminder that Nightwing required decades to barely reach 60.000 copies
Damian sells like shit
Batwoman sells like shit
TEC is full of characters that failed
Same for Batgirl etc.
Unless you like Batman only all the other characters are leeches feeding on his popularity

>>94047457

I know this is a shot at Snyder but "Dropping in new ideas that are never followed up on" is like the main thing mainstream Morrison does

>>94047457
>That's what Avengers Academy was but people cried about it.

>>94047618
And Geoff Johns...

News and rumors recap so far

DAY ONE: Thursday

>Grant Morrison announced Wonder Woman Earth One sequel with Yanick Paquette
> also announced Arkham Asylum 2 in Batman #666 setting with Chris Burnham
https://www.newsarama.com/35499-batman-arkham-asylum-wonder-woman-earth-one-sequels-coming-from-grant-morrison.html

>Tom King discusses the aftermath of Batman's proposal and information about redemption arc with artist Joelle Jones
http://www.cbr.com/tom-king-batman-catwoman-post-proposal/

>DC masterclass artist rumored to draw only 3 issues each of Dark Matter books (Rich the leech and bleeding cool rumor)
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/07/20/dc-masterclass-artists-dark-matter/

>DC wants to revive OGNs again
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/07/20/jim-lee-evergreen-stories-dc-big-talent/

>Details about Geoff Johns and Gary Frank's Doomsday Clock with art and how it'll impact DC universe going forward
https://www.newsarama.com/35506-doomsday-clock-s-future-setting-watchmen-like-length.html

>concrete information about when Milestone will be released will come about in upcoming months
>all the Dark Matter books will be $2.99 and will not have variant covers
>also DC's publisher highlight panel where Didio btfos Marvel
https://www.newsarama.com/35486-sdcc-2017-meet-the-dc-comics-publishers-jim-lee-dan-didio-panel.html

>>94047898
>concrete information about when Milestone will be released will come about in a non-concrete amount of time

epic

>>94047898

DAY TWO: FRIDAY

>YOUNG ANIMAL - DCU Crossover in January For a ‘New Status Quo’
https://www.newsarama.com/35524-young-animals-to-crossover-with-dcu-in-new-2018-title.html

>DC First Look - DARK NIGHTS: METAL's DARK JUSTICE LEAGUE
https://www.newsarama.com/35522-first-look-metal-s-dark-justice-league.html

>Lemire's new ongoing for DC is Terrifically
>Art by Ivan Reis
https://www.newsarama.com/35541-ff-style-family-of-superheroes-with-dc-s-the-terrifics.html

>LEMIRE Writing HAWKMAN FOUND (And Possible A HAWKMAN Ongoing Later...)
>The one-shot, part of the Dark Nights: Metal event, is specifically framed as a sequel to November 8's Batman Lost.
>Pencils by Bryan Hitch and inks by Kevin Nowlan
https://www.newsarama.com/35542-lemire-writing-hawkman-found-and-possible-a-hawkman-ongoing-later.html

>DC Swears Off Variants For DARK MATTER Titles, Draws Line at $2.99
https://www.newsarama.com/35545-dc-swears-off-variants-for-dark-matter-titles-draws-line-at-2-99.html

>DC's DUKE THOMAS Finally Gets a Codename ... and His Own Ongoing Series
https://www.newsarama.com/35544-dc-duke-thomas-gets-own-ongoing-series-and-codename.html

Other relevant links to panels/interviews
>SCOTT SNYDER Reveals the 'Really Simple' Plot of DARK NIGHTS: METAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JFFZ6VqNXI

>SDCC 2017: DC Universe REBIRTH Panel
https://www.newsarama.com/35518-sdcc-2017-dc-universe-rebirth-panel.html
http://www.cbr.com/dc-universe-rebirth-sdcc-2017/

>SDCC 2017: DC's DARK NIGHTS: METAL and DARK MATTER Panel
https://www.newsarama.com/35529-sdcc-2017-dc-s-dark-nights-metal-and-dark-matter.html
http://www.cbr.com/sdcc-dark-knights-metal/

I'll update this tomorrow when I (or someone else) makes a new thread.
Some notes:
CBR coverage of the panels is more extensive.
I'll post more interviews and stuff from IGN/YouTube/other sites, look out for that in this post's replies of you're interested.

>>94047898
>>also announced Arkham Asylum 2 in Batman #666 setting with Chris Burnham
cringe

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>>94047963

Classic Geoff!

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>>94047898

> also announced Arkham Asylum 2 in Batman #666 setting with Chris Burnham


there are two kinds of people: Those who are hype as fuck for this and those who are wrong

>>94047321

I kind of liked Lark. Better than THE SIGNAL!

>>94048077
I was just thinking this

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>>94047087
Anyways all star Sqaurdon as well.

>>94048053
My problem is the name sounds like a terrible cash-in.

But I'm into it if the idea is just to explore a bunch of the villains introduced in #666.

>>94047987
IGN interviews
>Scott Snyder talks about Metal
http://www.ign.com/videos/2017/07/21/dark-knights-metal-teaser-with-scott-snyder-at-sdcc-2017-ign-access

>Tom King talks about Batman
http://www.ign.com/videos/2017/07/21/batmans-future-with-tom-king-at-sdcc-2017-ign-access

CWverse Trailer

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7dM8dI_-P9o

>>94048317
The title is for sales, but the idea is fine. Might just be one of those Damian stories he mentioned wanting to get to one day.

>>94048360
I have no interest in this but I was really happy to hear they've publicly acknowledged Isabella's original comics as their influence and even sought his input for the show.

From his blog:
>I confess part of my disillusionment with those comics sites is that they don’t seem interested in my work. I thought it was very cool that I was invited to speak with the writers of the new Black Lightning show coming to the CW. I didn’t think respect like that had become commonplace in our industry.

>>94047987
>Dark Justice League
Promo art by Sejic


You forgot Young Animal under Vertigo staff, and a new Dark Matter title for next year called Brimstone by Jeff Lemire and Philip Tan.

>>94048633
Justin Jordan's doing Brimstone, not Lemire.

>>94047321
I'm glad they're getting on with something new as opposed to out another shitty teen titans book.

>>94047321
What is this shit? We should've had a couple of more Batman solos and another teen titans book instead.

>>94047679
Geoff Johns ideas are recycled shit.

>>94048317
>cash in
How is it a fucking cash in when they get an actually good writer this time? Unlike the uncreative hack writing the Watchmen crossover.

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who drew this???

>>94047321
Everyone is gonna whine about this but it's probably the first actually interesting addition to the Batfamily in decades.

It's not just yet another Robin or Batgirl, it's not a thinly veiled Totally Not Robin like "Lark" or "Bluebird" or whatever the fuck her name was, and he has his own niche to fill. Also We Are Robin is probably the most underrated DCYou book by a long shot.

Not too excited since it's a totally unknown writer and to be honest his niche isn't all that inspired but if you're gonna add a new Batfam character, this is the way to do it.

>>94048920
It's not quite as bad as Before Watchmen or Civil War II but it's still just riding on the success of a graphic novel from decades ago.

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>>94048957

>evil Aquabatman is a sexy lady pirate

goddammit

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>>94047457
They should bring back the Forgotten Heroes

>>94049030

>Animal Man
>Cave Carson
>Dolphin
>Immortal Man
>Rick Flagg
>Rip Hunter

what do you mean Bring Back?

>>94048995
>Not too excited since it's a totally unknown writer
He's from Snyder's workshop and Snyder's co-writing this. I'm interested enough to give it a shot.

>>94048995
Most people think of the video game rather than the GN when someone mentions Arkham Asylum. If it was a cash in, DC would've got Tynion or Tomasi to write it. It's as much a cash in as Moore's and O'Neil's upcoming LoEG is.

Only real takeaway from the Vertigo panel is DC playing coy on what they'll do for the anniversary

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>>94049030
What about these D-listers?

>>94048995
I thought it was Snyder writing it. My excitement dropped completely now.

>>94049162
Oh yeah, the 25th anniversary is next year right?

>>94049117
I meant the concept, of course.

>>94049030
Who would be on the team now, considering all of those guys have been brought back in a pretty big way?

Voting for Tex Thomson.

>>94049141
Snyder's workshop pals haven't exactly had a stellar track record so far with Tynion and Bennett.

>>94049160
The AA GN is still one of the consistently best-selling comics. It's just behind Watchmen, TDKR and Killing Joke as the most common OGN you'll see everywhere.

And like I said, I'm interested because I like Morrison and Burnham and I foresee it being Arkham Asylum in-name-only. But the name is blatantly there to cash-in on the popularity of Arkham Asylum.

It reminds me of the dearth of Kickstarter games where they get old developers to make another game exactly like one of their classics.

>>94047321
>written with a DC Talent Workshop alum named Tony Patrick

his Black Mask mini X'ED was genuinely good. someone should do a storytime.

>>94048957
nobody should own up to that trash

>>94049351
>not a comic that isn't shit
>not a batman comic
>not an event comic

Not gonna happen, bucko

>>94049292
>Who would be on the team now, considering all of those guys have been brought back in a pretty big way?
Anthro maybe?
Captain Comet would be nice.
The Heckler
Lagoon Boy
Charlton Son of Vulcan

>>94049502
>Lagoon Boy
My favorite D-Lister

>>94049292
Simon Dark, Vext and Anya Savenlovich

>>94048957
I forgot his name, Capullo? He's Snyder's BFF.

They are Batmen from the dark Multiverse who defeated certain members of the Justice League from their universe.

Doomsday looking Batman is a Batmam who was infected by a Doomsdau virus while trying to revive Superman, the Flash looking Batman is a Batman who defeated the Flash of his universe and has vents in his face just because the artist felt like it.

There's another Batman who they didn't show called "The Bat who laughs"

>>94049854
This really truly is the most casual post on /co/. It's tough to be more casual than a scott snyder fan. but not knowing who greg capullo or what his art looks like, which even those casual scott snyder fans would know, is pretty fucking casual.

>>94047198

Haha first they ditched Lark because it wouldn't be a catchy title, then they still stick "Batman" in front of it to push copies.

They must know that Duke has zero fans, but have already promised Snyder a solo. It's Talon all over again, except this time it'll attract more racists (he's a shitty character regardless).

>>94049854
I'm pretty sure it's not Capullo, even though he's drawing the event.

>>94048957
>>94049854
>>94049929
Capullo designed those characters but they didn't mention who drew that.

>>94049977
what happened to Talon

>>94048995

Decades? Give me a fucking break it's a black Robin dressed like a Power Ranger.

The character fundamentally undermine's Batman's character by making it look like he's using urban youth as a bright yellow human shield from bullets, whilst bringing up unfortunate issues about race and privilege that aren't at all suited for a monthly superhero comic. Robin only works when he's a surrogate son/symbol of Bruce's lost youth.

>>94050105

Stupid OC Snyder wedged into the Bat mythos after Court of Owls. They gave him a solo and it got canceled pretty quick. This time they waited longer before the solo, but once again failed to create an interesting character so it'll just limp to a trade or two and get canned.

>>94050208
>The character fundamentally undermine's Batman's character by making it look like he's using urban youth as a bright yellow human shield from bullets
I agree, only white kids that Bruce adopts deserve to be Robin and have an ongoing. I can like girls too, they are extremely waifuable, those 16 year olds.

>>94050208
>whilst bringing up unfortunate issues about race and privilege that aren't at all suited for a monthly superhero comic.
Don't read 80s bat comics my dude, or 80s comics in general.

>>94048995
Gotham Girl is a way better addition to the Batfam.

>>94050402
Gotham Girl is literally a plot device and a cheap "muh feels" bait.

>>94048677
Sorry for misreading

>>94048957
Likely Sejic

>no new rebirth titles

but why?

also the comics industry cannot sustain a "dark matter" line DC, most people just get characters they are familar with.

>>94051574
Because most of the current ones are selling well and Didio's said before they don't want to overload the market.

>>94051713
how does a new superhero line not overload the market?

i give it a year till they just bring the successful new titles under rebirth

>>94051836
I feel like it's a niche experimental line and audience for it are people who are fans of the creators. So it could work without cannibalizing the main line. Also they're probably looking to cancel Rebirth stuff and replace it with other books until Legion/Shazam/JSA and other stuff comes back.

Any news on Power Girl? No? Okay..

>>94049292
>Snyder's workshop pals haven't exactly had a stellar track record so far with Tynion and Bennett.
Isn't Orlando one of his as well? I'm not sure if any of their new hires are working out as intended, desu.

>>94052235
Probably no news on her until they do something with the JSA.

>>94052331
I don't think Orlando was a Snyderling, he self published some stuff via Image and Kickstarter before he got Midnighter

>>94052358
but she's on earth 2 with her "JSA". Why would she care about the JSA?

>>94050480
And yet, she has more character than Duke.

>>94052331
No, Matthew Rosenberg was a part of that class, he's good. I don't know about his Marvel stuff though.

>>94052725
>muh victimized cute and innocent girl
Yeah no. They're both equally terrible.

>>94052648
There has been hints at the old/original JSA being in Rebirth, right? Ones that aren't from the New 52 Earth-2 world. So she might be part of that. It would be best to start over with her character instead of trying to salvage the New 52 one anyway.

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>>94052648
You're mixing up your Power Girls. The stranded one was separate from the E2 one after the multiverse was re-created. We have not seen the stranded one since Flashpoint, only the new 52'd E2 one. They can just bring the stranded one back (or use a new stranded Kara I guess, COIE Kara is presumably still around from Convergence).

Anything announced at the Young Animal panel yet? It's happening right now.

>>94052927
His Marvel stuff is good, but they don't promote anything so it doesn't sell.

>>94053066
Nothing yet. Feed here: https://www.newsarama.com/35539-sdcc-2017-dc-gerard-way-s-young-animal-panel.html

>Shade, Cave Carson, and Mother Panic will go on hiatus from October to January. In January, there will be four Doom Patrol specials. The first is Doom Patrol/Justice League, co-written by Way and Steve Orlando, with art by Aco. The cover features a Frank Quitely drawing of a character named Milkman Man.
Noice.

>>94053278
Goddamn connection error.

>>94053004
So there's black power girl, nu52e2powergirl and a third one somewhere?

Sounds like a party

>>94053278
That sounds awesome. What are the other three going to be? Doom Patrol/Teen Titans?
Doom Patrol/Green Lantern Corps? Doom Patrol/Suicide Squad?

YA panel is now over

Wow so all the Young Animal panel revealed was that 3 of their books are going on a 4 month hiatus and 4 one-shot crossovers are coming out.

It really is fucking nothing.

>>94053674
>Wow so all the Young Animal panel revealed was that 3 of their books are going on a 4 month hiatus and 4 one-shot crossovers with Doom Patrol (the first one is with JL, by Way/Orlando/ACO) are coming out in January 2018. as well as Shade #11 variant by Leslie Hung
ftfy

>>94053674
tbqh it's more than we got from the Doomsday Clock panel

some of these really could have been cut out

>>94048957
Wouldn't it be Capullo?

>>94053777
Yup there's the YA Shill.

>>94053777
Wow, you really think a fucking variant cover and the creative team and title to ONE one-shot crossover was worth the time of an entire panel?

>>94049292
The guy writing Black Bolt at Marvel is a Snyder guy.

>>94053777
>implying a variant cover and the creative team and title to ONE one-shot crossover was worth the time of an entire panel

>>94053861
>>94053918
Worse than all of Marlel's panels.

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>>94053777
The Milkman Man, from the JL/DP crossover

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DP/JL special cover.

>>94054020
by Frank Quitely

>>94053899
He's good too I guess.

>>94052725
I'm sure you read We Are Robin and therefore are qualified to say that, right?

>>94054350
I even bought and paid for it. I love how deep in denial you are that someone could dare dislike fucking Duke, a character well-known to be disliked.

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More art from crossover

>>94055407
Awesome

Is there any new on Milestone ?

>>94054020

God bless ya Frank, but... why?

>>94055407
Nah this is old art from that Young Animal vinyl

>>94046845
This

>>94055407
I love how Wild Dog became part of this crew.

>>94048053
I'm still confused what continuity this books will be in considering how Batman in Bethlehem never happened since the story retconned it from ever happening

>>94046790
David Finch won an Eisner.

>>94055687
Lee promises more news next year.

>>94048957

Is anyone getting a Dark Judges feel or is it just me?

Are there any more panels left for DC?

>>94047679
SEVEN SEAS IS TOTALLY STILL GONNA HAPPEN GUYS!

Holy shit did the expanded league roster from the New 52 went nowhere

>>94048360
huh, I didn't realize how actually comic accurate Terrific's costume was. Too bad he's stuck being Felicity's gay bestie (or is he actually useful now?). Though the Guardian following him with that drab grey ass suit just made me sad

>>94048957
is it just me or does GL Bat look twink as fuck?

>>94051574
>What is over saturation
You don't want to launch a book in the wrong time. If you do it'll end up dead in the water, look at what happened to Batwoman and JLA. Only Supersons managed to get the best deal out of them

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At least he didn't deny that she could be Phase...?