Fathers and Sons.
>>93655790
Awww yeah. Excited for this
we getting Pa Kent stuff right before The Oz Arc
OZ IS PA KENT CONFRIMED
The art sorta reminds me of Erica Henderson. It's the faces.
>>93655882
Jon looks like he's 17.
>>93655910
Yeah, he's supposed to be like 10.
>>93655790
Is this Superman book or Superboy book? Because this run has been all about Jon.
>>93655920
Superman & Son, is what I've been calling it.
>>93655871
>Damian already influencing Jon
Don't know how to feel.
>>93655920
Sorta reverse Batman.
Batman focused on Batman while Det' focuses on the Bat Family.
Superman focuses on the immediate Superman Family while Action focuses on Superman.
Also because Tomasi likes Father/Son stuff. It's not like it's purely Jon shit.
>>93655920
CLARK IS A FATHER AND A HUSBAND OFCOURSE WE'D LEARN ABOUT JON TOO U DUMB FUCK
>>93655920
It's a about both of them.
>>93655920
It's a stealth Batman and Robin book. Sorry, I mean Superman and Superboy book.
>>93655938
Batman barely has Damian. Though I guess to be fair, when he debuted he was in the main book a lot.
Alright, for a fill-in.
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>>93655871
lol
Superman 026 (2017) (webrip) (two covers) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP).cbr
http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/KhO55ai7/file.html
>>93655945
>>93655953
>There is a real chance that Jon and Pa Kent will never met
It's not fair, lads
>>93655951
thats cause 1. Snyder hated Damian during his run and wanted to push his oc steel duke 2. King's run had bruce care more about Selina and Gotham girl then his own son and treated his other adopted sons as fodder in I AM BANE
>>93655827
>teach the boy some responsibility and work ethic
>take a day off and spend it boning Martha
>and Clark gets to drive around the combine
It was almost the perfect plan.
>>93655977
Anon he'll meet Jon if he turns out to be OZ
>>93655809
>they are referencing that classic superman cover
HOLY SHIT! THE INDUSTRY WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!
>>93655920
I honestly thought with Super Sons started that we will see less of Jon in the main book and it will focus more Superman, but I guess I was wrong.
>>93655951
Damian at least didn't have a book of his own when he first debuted like Jon current has and Batman still was the foucs of HIS book.
>>93655984
I do wonder what King actually thinks of Damian.
Trynion at least just seems to prefer Tim as opposed to hating Damian.
>>93655914
Superman call the XCOM!!! NOW!!!!!
>>93656064
I wonder that too
When is Jon supposed to meet Kara? Or Kenan?
At least he's met the entire League.
>>93655984
Snyder didn't hate Damian you insecure Damian fan. He simply didn't care about using him because there was already Batman and Robin book.
I'm getting sick of your whining about poor dami not being in everything despite how overexposed he is.
>>93655920
Because Tomasi can't write Superman for shit, so he tries to hide it by including Jon.
>>93656090
He meet Kara in the supergirl book.
>>93656090
Jon met Kara in her book
>>93656010
I need to call my provider, my internet just broke.
>>93656095
sure man whatever u say
>>93656095
I blame DC for spoiling them.
I also blame Morrison for introducing Damian into the main universe and making us deal with his freaking annoying fans.
>>93655871
Jon is adorable
>>93656095
>Snyder didn't hate Damian
The only time he even referenced Damian was when he was killed. If it weren't for his super special OC Duke, I'd think he's one of those people that thinks Batman's best alone.
>>93655833
Would make sense.
>>93656130
I still have hope that one day DC will recton Damian.
>>93656020
Superman's core book is Action Comics, tho. I guess the title can be misleading, but this one has always been the Superman and Son book.
>>93656138
Damian was in COO and DOTF arcs and wasn't less referred than the rest of the robins you delusional child.
You and your likes are one of the reasons why many people can't stand Damian because of your consistent whining.
>>93655833
Sticking to my theory that Ma and Pa will be revived by the conclusion of Doomsday Clock.
>>93656090
He met Kara in the Supergirl annual and it was adorable. I'd love a little an arc of those two having to solve a problem togetherbefore auntie Peeg steps in to save them
and it looks like he's about to meet Kenan and the rest of the Super family in the current Action arc.
>>93656214
>mfw Supes makes a deal with a demon to bring them back
>>93656095
>Snyder didn't hate Damian
He doesn't hate him but he's on record saying he doesn't like using Robin (and especially Damian) since it reminds him of his own kids.
Funny that Tomasi takes the opposite approach.
>>93656099
But #7 was one of the best Supes issues in years and it was all about Superman.
>>93655977
>Be 33
>Grandpa before I was born
>Dad died when I was 6 months old
>Step-dad was a drunk who died in the clink when I was 4
Goddamnit boys, my kids gonna be born in 5 months if it wasn't for Superdad I'd be completely lost.
>>93655790
Not bad cover.
>>93655809
"Homage cover with inferior costume" sounds like a bad idea, but this is actually a really nice cover.
>>93655809
Can't help but feel there's something missing to it, around the wrist area, but the new costume is growing on me.
>>93655945
>he was a big man
>>93655871
Ah'm Suba-maah
>>93655871
I liked Jon's old room better.
This art sucks.
Overall, a middle of the road issue.
>>93656095
Synder fags are so gay,
>>93655977
That's what makes it all the more touching. Superman is the bridge between these two characters. It's all the more precious for how much he wished they could've met each other.
>>93656130
>>93656163
Timfrags are cancer.
>>93655984
Scott Synder is cunt .
>>93656095
>>93656095
Ahahahahaahhahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahhahahahahaha oh my god timfags.
Thanks, OP.
>>93655897
Incase anyone wants this.
>>93656090
When is the Legion going to be alive again so he can meet all off his 30+ aunts and uncles?
>>93655809
>>93656410
It's a bit too 'sheen' for my taste, irrespective of the trunks (which I am fine when the belt or something else can break up the blue - which I don't think is the case with this current version).
And I normally am a fan of Jimenez, although I can't think of any homage covers he's done in the past??
>>93655933
I would think he would have taken this kind of advice from even Lois, not that Damien wouldn't necessarily have advice that Jon can't use or learn from.
>>93656711
>old room better
It has more character. But that's probably the artist. I'm not sure about the Batman 'teddy' type doll, and I liked some of the science-nerd type of toys he had in the room in the past.
>>93655816
Actually Clark's room in this page is also duller than crap. And the farm looks far too spanking new. I wish they had done more to give it that lived in look that was often managed in the 2000s and that was prominent in For All Seasons.
>>93655986
Except for the fact that Clark can hear him and martha boning.
>>93655871
I would never see Jon sleeping with a Batman doll. He thinks he is a psychopath.
>>93655882
>The art sorta reminds me of Erica Henderson. It's the faces.
The more I look at these pages, the less I like the art. The torso work on Clark is just horizontal lines. Lois is just a lumpy two color blob here: >>93655834 and her face looks awful.
>>93655910
>Jon looks like he's 17.
>>93655918
He looks far older than 10, mid teen to 17 (in some of the panels) is definitely right. There's also not a lot of variance between kid Clark in the first two pages and the additional pages that feature Jon.
>>93657329
>he is a psychopath
only a psychopath would turn down freshly made pie
AND TOTALLY AGREE ON THE DOLL
>>93656740
It's a fill in by one of the people from that Writer's Workshop.
>>93655918
He's 12, one year off being a teenager and able to join the Teen Titans.
>>93657525
He was 10 last summer when the Jurgen's Arrival 8 page mini was cancelled for Rebirth. So in less than 12 months he's gone from 11 to 12? Where are you going by this? He's still be in the same classes in school that he was shown in late last summer and fall.
>>93656900
That looks like a better version of Reggie Mantle than anything else - the hair is just far too long for the way the face is drawn
>>93655871
Kek. I like this, I hate it when writers write kids as adults in kid bodies.
>>93656334
This is a good rationale for things like Big Brothers/Big Sisters relationships in people's lives.
>>93657596
As of Super Sons he is still 10
>>93655951
>>93656020
To be fair, the average Batman fan doesn't really want a big focus on kids and other 'wholesome' shit in their comics whereas Superman fans don't mind it.
>>93655834
>>93656900
>>93658197
Well we had Batman & Robin for that. Honestly I don't mind that Damian isn't in Batman and probably most Damian fans think that as well. We have Super Sons and TT for now.
>>93655984
>treated his other adopted sons as fodder in I AM BANE
What are you talking about, retard? He expressedly told them to NOT be involved. In one of the best scenes in comic history by the way.
And when they ignored his command and got fucked, he hid them in the Fortress of Solitude.
>>93658739
not batman himself king treated them as fodder dumb fuck
>>93656648
>those inward facing teeth
For what purpose
The small eyes shit you can just write off as a poor stylistic choice but these teeth fucking bother me so much. His mouth looks like one half of a McDonalds' cupholder.
>>93658488
I just want damian to have a salty reaction to the news that Selina and bruce are getting married then GTFOing outta the book or having scenes of Selina trying to make damian like her being his step mom
>>93658833
> bruce care more about Selina and Gotham girl then his own son and treated his other adopted sons as fodder in I AM BANE
You're the one who wrote it that way, dip shit.
>>93658888
sure man my mistake
>>93655953
I fucking love this comic so much
>>93658352
Yup, that's the badly drawn face we're talking 'bout
>>93655839
Cool robots
Ayy thanks as usual Norrin
>>93655920
I guess Jon gets a little to much focus but in all honesty I think he's the reason people like this run. The issues that don't feature him aren't bad, but they're not exactly interesting either.
>>93660728
I wouldn't mind more Lois in some of these stories as well. The part where she was investigating the "other" Lois, where she was on the Moon during the Eradicator attack and the one issue on the Manchester Black run makes it clear there's still a lot to do with her, especially in the family dynamic, and as a mother to an enhanced being, especially since they haven't explored where Jon falls - he's not a true meta-human and he's not a pure enhanced being like Jonn, Clark, Starfire, etc.
The art in this issue is fucking bad.
>>93656090
He met Kara and pounded her with questions about Kryptonian culture.
>>93657525
In Super Sons he's confirmed as being ten.
Damian is 13, but he technically spent two of those years dead, so no growing was done. Hence why he's so short.
>>93661557
I don't think he was in-comic dead for 2 years.
>>93661557
I think acrobatic training stunted him, or maybe that's just my assumption that gymnasts are manlet from watching too much olympics
I read the first 4 pages and this shit reeks of inventory issue
See u guys in two weeks
>>93661557
You're reading too much into it.
Damian is short because he is short. Period. Just like Dick Grayson was a midget before Perez.
>>93662511
it is, this was originally the start of the road trip arc but it got pushed to the next issue a month ago so this is definitely a inventory filler
>>93658739
>In one of the best scenes in comic history by the way.
who the fuck seriously writes shit like this? this has to be a shitpost.
>>93655953
I think it's easy to rag on it but if what someone said about it being the product of their Writers Workshop I respect DC for giving them one of the biggest books they have, especially at the moment.
Art needs some work and the writing was a bit on the nose at points but the story fit and it was enjoyable enough for a fill-in.
>>93656095
im actually convinced this faggot is snyder. no normal person would defend a serviceable-to-shitty writer this heavily.
>>93655914
Well there's a blast from the past. Shitty redesigns though.
>>93656214
This. What ever rebirth "Rebirth" is referencing obviously doesn't actually kick in until after the Clock runs out.
My thing is the doomsday clock in Watchmen is well defined and it's something that really wouldn't exist in a world with a real superman (instead of autistic and cryptic manhattan) because it's based on a type of danger that would be very easily avoided with so many super-powered masks around.
So it'll be interesting who's calculating the clock and what is the danger they're predicting.
>tfw going to read this with my kids later
feels fucking great.
>this art
I can't cope
>>93655790
Art's pretty shoddy but I liked the story.
>>93663321Damifag is Snyder?
>>93663238
I agree with you - how are people going to learn and I don't have any problem with the story. The point of an editor is to help and in comics that means both the art work and the script. My biggest issue with this is with the art. In the 40s, they would have Schuster do the faces or have Swan do them when the Super books became a big production line. All the artist needed to do was take a look at some of the recent issues and do some aping of Lois face and of Jon's - I'm a failed graphic designer because I can't draw, but even I could take someone else's face and do a decent enough imitation of it with enough time.
>>93655920
>book about Superman trying to be a good dad isn't about Superman
>>93657364
Every time I see this image, I think the reason Batman isn't eating is that Lois just makes shit pies. The Super family is eating it because they're too polite not to, and Damian will eat anything you put in front of him after he's tested it for poison. Batman is the only one there with the taste and lack of manners to tell Lois to take her shitty pie and go fuck herself with it.
>>93662702
>>93662511
Sometimes I wonder about the inventory issues that never made it. Like I'm sure the majority are shit but every once in a while I think they could have some really stellar one and done issues in the vault that should really be published
Dustin Nguyen's posted the same picture of one issue of something he drew with Damian in it, and he always mentions how he hopes it'll still be published because it had one of his favorite panels he's ever done in it.
>>93666201
Honestly, it's probably just a calorie thing. Damien's due for a growth spurt so he can eat all he wants but Bruce is at the age where your metabolism goes to hell.
>>93663456
I know, right?
Bumpin
>>93657364
>just eat the pie, bruce
Superman's face is what makes this page so great.
Not really a fan of how bratty this writer made Jon. Though I suppose it can be excused as Damian's influence and his mind being fucked with by Black. But it might not bode well for when other writers apart from Tomasi and Gleason start getting their hands on him, though Jurgens has handled him well in Action as well.
>>93655920
>>93665315
Even sadder to note:
>book about Clark trying to live up to Pa isn't about Superman
>>93655910
Most comic artists these days don't know how to draw kids.
>>93656090
Y'know what hero Jon should meet/team up with?
Guy Gardner. The best & worst influence for him.
>>93671087
>Not really a fan of how bratty this writer made Jon. Though I suppose it can be excused as Damian's influence and his mind being fucked with by Black. But it might not bode well for when other writers apart from Tomasi and Gleason start getting their hands on him, though Jurgens has handled him well in Action as well.
Actually, Jon is a creation of Jurgen's, so hopefully he would handle him well. He was brought to life I the Convergence two-parter, written by Jurgen's, and developed further in the 8-part Arrival mini-series that lead directly to Rebirth.
It jarred me the first time I read it, but Jurgen's wrote Jon as being a bit of brat when he got all up into Clark and Lois for all their secrets as to Clark being Not Superman in black and Lois being Author X, after the first time Intergang attacked Lois' vehicle. They didn't acknowledge anything until Lois and Jon were put into actual jeopardy and it became clear to Lois that Jon had developed some powers.
I think it's been a bit inconsistent. I remember when that issue was story-timed, some folks said that it's not really unusually for a kid to be a bit of brat once or twice, it's more how they act all the time/rest of the time that would decide.
>>93671669
that would involve drawing children which (an I don't defend cheese pizza artists) is something that at its most innocent will get you weird looks and at worst get you arrested. Art is bad enough these days because everyone is too embarrassed to draw proper bodies as children because godforbid parents find a kid drawing a full-figured woman.
if you want to get better at drawing something there is literally one single way to do so.
>>93672451
>Actually, Jon is a creation of Jurgen's
Holy shit you're right. I totally forgot about that. Tomasi especially has just done such an amazing job with him that I forgot that he didn't actually create him.
>>93672709
He has - and generally, I really like what Tomasi has done and he's certainly done more post-Rebirth than Jurgen's has.
And I don't mind a child being written as occasionally being a child - bratty, difficult, stubborn, etc. I just don't want to see entire runs of it.
Bruce has a more disciplined way of doing things but Damian is also League of Assassins trained, so I want to see them draw a good line between positive structural type suggestions Damian ends up 'teaching' Jon, especially where it might contradict something Jon would have or should have learned from Lois or Clark.
I did not care for this issue at all. easily the least of this week's offerings.
>>93656334
Do your best and I'm sure you'll be an alright dad, anon.
>>93673970
Just DC alone has several issues, overall, far worse. When you take into account several of the Marble offerings, you get an entire selection of horrors.
>>93656334
Truly, this is a job for Superman.
don't feel bad anon, my dad was really absent in my life. I swear, if it wasn't for a character in the Star Wars EU, I wouldn't even know what it meant to be a man.
>yfw a fictional character is your parent.
>>93657309
That's what the combine was for, loud diesel engine.