/hyw/ - How's Your Webcomic? #379

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>>93378121

Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

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Yay new thread. Good job
have a WIP

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Our reign of terror goes unabated.

>>93378302
Those robots look cute, not gonna lie.

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>>93378396
Thanks anon.

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>want to start a simple story just for comfy fun
>at the end it just becomes a huge and complex plot and if you execute it as it is it would become way bigger than what you wanted to start

Has this happened to any of you? How do you deal with it?

>>93378658
I keep saving them up for later and for later I mean that I may never use the idea at all.

WOW'S YOUR WEBCOMIC?

>>93378658
Finish writing it, create a comprehensive and complete story.
Cut it up into chapters / issues / books.
Drop everything else in your life and finish the first chapter / issue / book.
Push it to publishers until it gets picked up.
Get an agent to sell the publishing rights abroad.
Repeat until the story is complete.

worked for me.

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Page I'm working on for graphic novel

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>>93378121
My comic.

>>93379244
yo this looks p fucking good. where can I find more?

I'm the anon who posted about their story about Nova and Mimi in the last thread.

An anon offered to RP with me which would be pretty cool. My throwaway email is pillowcaseghost at gmail, if you're here send me an email.

I'm out of town until july 4th but i'll reply to the email just can't rp until after then.


As for the advice on my story

The original idea was Nova was taken from her real parents to be princess, so she doesn't want to be princess because it was a life entirely chosen for her, she wasn't born into it just thrust into it. Mimi is a typical "Shy nobody who turns into strong somebody by the end"

Someone mentioned that just simplifying it so she's a queen's daughter would be better, but I kinda like the origin story i've built for her so far. What if i put this reveal closer to the climax where she doesn't trade places back with Mimi, do you think it could work that way?

The idea right now for what's preventing Mimi from going back is "out of potion ingredients lol" from Nova but that could either be a truth or a convenient lie from Nova since she's not an entirely honest or trustworthy person (So maybe her personal growth for the story could be to go from this kinda shitty person to a real princess type?).

Another idea floating in my head is Mimi becomes princess instead but that seems kinda unrealistic since she'd be abandoning her family to do so.


With these added notes, what are continuing thoughts?

tldr for those who missed last thread
>Nova is a witch, gonna be princess, doesn't wanna be
>Tries to escape through magic portal made with a potion, accidentally brings Mimi (a normal human) into her world instead
>With a spell they agree to switch places so Nova can just relax and be a normal witch for awhile
>Climax happens when Nova doesn't want to switch back and maybe goes through the portal herself to take Mimi's place

Thanks guys. I'm running on little sleep right now, sorry this was long.

>>93379460
Eesh sorry for all the line breaks. my paragraphs looked a lot bigger in the tiny reply window.

>>93379244
I think I asked in the orevious thread, can you give a synopsis of the story and the setting?

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I know this has been done to death but screw it, a sci-fi RPG plot.
I'm not really good at writing so I just followed another anon's advice to just stick so simple plots.
Here's the twin protagonists. Sorry for the Taglish, too lazy to rewrite it.
Translation:
>"Anyways, we're out of Resal so suck it up, buttercup." " You're an ass, you know that."

>"Ey Mr. Healer man, bring me ur heals." "What corner of hell did you end up in now."

>"Goddamnit, where's our aunt???" "Just take (the hits). I've got plenty of supplies".

>>93379278
Pretty cute.

>>93379897
Looks nice.

>>93378658
I find this usually happens when I unconsciously start getting influenced by other successful stories I like. It's like I want my story to be on par with theirs, but then get lost. That is when I have to dial it down and remember what my story is about (is it plot heavy, character heavy, both), and what genre it's in.

Clip Studio Paint (aka Manga Studio 5), now on sale for up to 60% off, for the next 4 days.

http://www.clipstudio.net/en/

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Latest page of

http://doubleblade.cfw.me/
https://tapas.io/series/Double-Blade

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To the guy who asked about how I would implement a game into my comic.

I was thinking 3 optional dungeon crawlers that would feature further information on the world that would be info dumping in a regular narrative. And instead of pokemon like, it's be puzzles and battles like in Golden Sun leading up to a boss battle. I want it to be skipable but fun

>>93380364
fucking awesome m8

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>>93378658
Welcome to world building anon. You now have many plot threads you can follow up on or simply ignore them and push the story in the direction you want.

>>93378988
>worked for me
What is your story anon?

>>93380234
Thanks for sharing!

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Making a story about racism/speciesism, only unlike it's popularly displayed in media, this isn't a "they dindu nuffin" story. I feel that shit is dishonest as fuck and ultimately doesn't do us a lot of good in how shallow and coddling it is. So this will be a story about overcoming racism/speciesism when in reality everyone probably should still retain their bias and hatred.

I don't know, I just feel a happy ending to a story in this setting would have a lot more weight and meaning than "you were just ignorant the whole time!" meme zootopia and the like preach.

>>93380364
Have fun, Icarus.

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i keep making illustrations for this webcomic i've been trying to write down (for at least 1 year now) and i haven't written down virtually shit. literally got a few ideas for it and how i want the plot to build up and change, but i fucking can't start to write anything down, i've got little to no ideas for the writing at all.

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>install wordpress
>it doesn't ask me for user and password
Now I have to use phpmyadmin to see what goddamn user name it used and change the password. Fuck you wordpress.

>>93378302
the end did it for me

>>93378658
it turns out complex plots are comfy

>>93382588
>people can learn to change a little of their views and get along without actually having an unrealistic magical metamorphosis and ignoring everything they've ever seen
so like, where do I give your dad money for raising you right?

Not quite on topic, but anyone hre do that Artsnacks monthly art supply box thing? Normally, I'm not into those blind box subscriptions, but for something like art supplies, it seems like it might be a good way to force yourself to experiment. Is it worth the 24 bucks? Or is it better to just walk into an art supply store with a blindfold and grab a couple things there?

>>93382804
What I usually do is to write the ideas I get as if they were summaries, kinda like what you find on wikis. That is mostly because I write dialogue on the march but it can work for many other methods. It's still a good way to start and later move to actual script writing.

how do i conquer the lazy?

>>93382588
This is what I feel we need more. Good luck on your efforts anon

>>93383764
I wouldn't mind doing it if just to try out a blind box. However, I don't find myself needing anything more than what I already have, I think it'd be a waste of money.
The flyer in the box says what the cost of each item is, and it doesn't seem to match up with the price of the box. Makes sense 'cause yeah, company needs to make a profit somehow.

I'd rather just look for really nice art pieces and see if they use any interesting materials, then try using it for myself.

>>93384140
shockingly honest of them
you'd think they'd do things like this by getting overstock and/or bulk discounts, but then tell you the normal retail price of those items so you felt like you were getting a deal

>>93384140
That's sort of what I figured. I impulse bought a month because Artist and Craftsman gave me ten percent off so we'll see. Last year's inktober one looks fun. I think it'd be worth it if they always included a piece of original art, even if it was from some nobody. I'll probably end up canceling after a month or two, but I might grab Inktober standalone since I do love ink.

One day I'll get the hang of my brush pen and make some kind of zen, minimalist comic adaptation of I Am A Cat.

>>93384466
how much do they give you for 25 bucks? because art supplies are pretty damn expensive.. at least at most of the stores i went to

>>93384602
This was March. Looks like if you know what you're doing, you can definitely get better prices. But these are for people that don't know what they're doing. I'd never even think to buy one of those big pencils, so getting the random assortment seems pretty fun to me. I'm still pretty beginner though.

>>93382588
Could you elaborate on this? I can't tell if it's brilliant or retarded, it's pretty vague on what you mean. Are you saying that the stereotypes are true, are you saying that there's a reason for the stereotypes, what're you going for?

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>>93384705
Forgot the picture

>>93384726
yeah I don't think that's worth it. i mean it's nice getting a warheads and all...

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>>93384466
Sketchbox does that, includes a picture drawn from one of their subscribers. On their website, they detail what's in their premium box, as well as prices, which is worth more than the price of the box
>$40 retail vs $35 box

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I have a question.
Would you read a fantasy-comedy that is published and presented as a webcomic but its format being closer to an illustrated serial-novel on a weekly to bi-weekly schedule?
don't worry, I'm not the one who's doing the illustrations

>>93385241
sure. i want more of those anyway

Not sure if this would be the right place but I would like some input on a plot I was working on if that's ok.

>>93385347
yeah we discuss our plots all the time.

>>93384713
>Could you elaborate on this? I can't tell if it's brilliant or retarded, it's pretty vague on what you mean. Are you saying that the stereotypes are true, are you saying that there's a reason for the stereotypes, what're you going for?

Sure, I won't spill particular specifics, but I can give a summery.

>On an alien planet two species co-exist together, but to the detriment of one another (one more to the other's, depending on your point of view)
>it's done to some degree of consent because the alternative is much worse and neither species wants that
>had they not existed in this "relationship", neither species would exist at all today
>neither species particularly likes one another, they just "tolerate" the other, and sometimes not even that

This isn't a matter of stereotypes either, it's a matter of fact: any individual of either species would have to be stupid to not show concern around the other, just due to the happenings of day to day life. I will also be sure to frame it in a way that any viewer to this would also feel the same, regardless of which position/side they put themselves in while reading.
After the initial introduction to what this place is and how it works, I was going to have several stories take place here, basically showing the hardships of life, and small instances where the two species are forced to interact. At the end I wanted to make something sweet with two that make friends. Not because they are unique individuals and/or don't fit their roles in this society, but rather despite all that. Basically show that if someone from each species sits down and actually attempts to connect/talk, they can actually have a conversation and even get along IF they try, even if that doesn't change anything about the world or life they live.

>>93385438
yeah i'm buying you a pizza

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Haven't made much progress and I haven't posted in a while but I drew this.

He'd overly muscular but I do think he should be buffed up a bit more in the comics. dude should be built like a gymnast.

>>93385407
Thanks,
So the base setting is middle ages but more fantasy middle ages (medicine isnt as gruesome for example, and beastmen and other humanoid other than regular humans exist).

People are born with something special to them like a skill or an ability (reading a book by touching it, being able to see far away by using grass as a medium). This grows with the person as they get better at it or they gain different things.

People can learn different things by trying what works for them (trial by error) or learning from someone else (even if they are really good it's rather difficult since you have to "feel" it in the right way) or by learning from "imprinting stones" found in the "Grand Dungeon" (which are rather rare and usually dropped by the "boss" of a particular set of floors) in the main capital.

This is the main source of income for the capital either by adventurers wanting to find treasure in the endless dungeon of the capital or "imprinting stones" to sell on for dosh at the markets or with the guild they are with.

So pretty much MC and company travel the world and the dungeon and want to be the best adventurer that ever was.

Haven't gotten much beyond this but this is the main idea anyway

>>93385708
why do you think gymnasts have a buff build?

>>93385771
>middle ages but more fantasy middle ages (medicine isnt as gruesome for example
you could always go further back. medicine in the ancient middle east was leaps and bounds ahead of the cliche dark ages europe bloodletting cliche
That's a fun way to do 'everyone has magic' for sure. does the story ever explore why there's an endless dungeon full of infinite money? and how that would destabilize the economy?

>>93386035
>dark ages meme
opinion discarded

I'm not the guy you're replying to, so don't bully him

>>93386236
I'm acknowledging it's a meme, and 80% of what people repeat isn't accurate.. or wasn't for much of it, or for much of the area.
but the main mistaken in that meme is the idea that the further back you go the more primitive people are, when really it was.. just.. there, and then.
also the typical fedora thing, trying to somehow connect it with religion, when like.. the jews were stupendously advanced. and the romans were no slouches either..

>>93386035
The story does go into it but other than a "it just happened a long time ago" is about what the general populace knows as far as the dungeon is concerned.
It is the main source of income for the capital but trade is still a very lucrative business.
Just because the "Grand Dungeon" is open to everyone willing to pay the fee doesnt mean other nations dont have something like it that is open to everyone, they're just more quiet about it.
Other types of cultures are in it as well other than the standard middle ages stuff: Nomanid tribes, eastern civilisations and others.

>>93386236
it has been done again and again though

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Finally done. Got off work early today.

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I always come here to butt post

>>93386502
very cool. sounds like a winner

>>93382634
Actually really clever. Tbh I agree senpai. I'm gonna focus on the webcomic, but it'd still be fun.

Could even be an after the fact kind of game that explores the setting in a new story

>>93385993
I don't know many gymnasts to be fair, male or otherwise, but when you see those dudes during the olympics they're pretty big guys.

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>>93387576
im out of shape so I'm not the best judge but dudes upper body seems pretty ripped.

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>>93387665
>>93387576
this dude as well

though I still drew him terribly off-model.

>>93387665
hmm, he's pretty bulgey for a gymnast, but I think you'd agree he's below the level of a linebacker by far

>>93387709
I'm not trying to be snarky here, why would you think I don't? I said my drawing was overly muscular. But I think a simple google search proves that gymnasts are pretty buff.

>>93387892
I mean, I don't watch a lot of gymnasts, but all the ones I've ever seen (largely from the late 80s and early 90s) were significantly more lithe than this fucker. you can imagine why ropy muscle would be more useful for gymnastics

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I have an idea for a story.

It's about a main character who learns to let go of cartoons as a coping mechanism, and instead uses cartoons as an inspiration to create original stories and comics. The main character learns to embrace the real world and to take control over their life, after being confronted by their childhood cartoon crush in a dream. My hope is that it will have the feeling of an intervention, while having the feeling of getting to know a personal hero, someone that was once over-idealized who slowly becomes more and more human as the story goes on.

It's an idea that's close to my heart, so the only thing stopping me from going farther than just sketching characters, has been the fear of poor execution. If done well, I hope the idea will resonate with some people. If done poorly, it might leave the impression of poor marysue tumblr nonsense.

Is this a story that people would want to read? Would this idea resonate with anyone?

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I'm starting to draw the first official panels for the opening

I -think- these are okay enough

>>93387991
how would either of those concepts work? using cartoons as a coping mechanism? using them to embrace the real world and take control of your life? what even is that?
The only part of that I understood was using them as inspiration to make original stories and comics.. I'd like a comic about making comics! It sounds cliche but I can't actually think of one

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I might revise the second half of the current kind of story board to make it more animated.

I want a way to have the protag chase an animal, while presenting him as being really good at hunting (if he just misses the shot then it would make him look kind of dumb.)

>>93388102
Ooooh that's cool. well in my experience, spiders hunt in a pretty staccato manner. rapid movement punctuated by total stillness. That.. would probably be hard to depict in a comic. Maybe a panel repeated a few times, showing him still, then another where he's just gone

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decided to drop my narrative driven comic and create my own top notch life sux lmao comic.
shoutout to my friends, my dog, my cat, and my family except my weird uncle

>>93388224
Good point!
Maybe the creature could notice and bolt -just- before getting shot

>>93379350
srry took so long to respond lol
https://twitter.com/spuhmoni
That were i post some stuff, the patreon is where i put most of it but there are pages not up cause it's a graphic novel not a webcomic

>>93379606
story is a girl who knows what she wants to do in life, but feels stuck because the process is a drag and monotonous at times
Some of my personal experience with art school and the bullshit of it
Other part is being friends with people in a drug/alcohol lifestyle and the waking up partying and sleeping cycle that you need to distance from to grow (not so much her but the environment with her roommates)

It's is humor based though, and just touches on a few little relatable and sometimes serious things that happen in life (sex, substance, school)
Sort of a coming of age story when you in the age of cumming (mid-20's)

>>93388633
>age of cumming (mid-20's)
fuck, that's about the age i realized I couldn't shoot across a room anymore, and was lucky to make it a few inches.

>>93380234
>http://www.clipstudio.net/en/

Oh nice.
Best would be to go for the EX version I guess but sadly I don't have that much money right now, so I guess I will set for the Pro standard version. It still has more than enough of what I would need anyway.

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I posted this a month ago on dA and:

Stats
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Comments 0
Downloads 0

This site surely knows how to cheer people up (and I thought I came up with a pretty funny dialogue). If anyone gives a shit, here's what I have so far:
http://sapromind.deviantart.com/gallery/59894404/The-Frolic

>>93390319
DA is not really the best place for this kind of stuff. You may have better chances on tumblr or a webcomic hosting site.

>>93388059
Sorry, I realize now that it came out a bit jumbled.

I think everyone has to overcome their own personal struggles. While I think most people try to face the problem head on, some might ignore the problem by getting indulged in a hobby. If it goes unchecked however, a hobby could turn into an obsession.

I think there are a lot of people out there who like to watch cartoons or movies as a form of escapism. It can make people feel better. But I think that cartoons and movies should be treated, not as an escape from reality, but as a way to learn how to cope with reality. I don't think people should ignore their problems. I think they should take in the life lessons cartoons can teach us, and apply them to become stronger individuals.

I want to create a comic that teaches people to face their fears. I want to take a main character who is afraid to live their life (someone who escapes through cartoons), and change them into a character that will be proactive in achieving their personal goals. I want this character to let their love for storytelling and 3-dimensional characters be shown through creating comics of their own, as opposed to indulging in a story someone else created.

>>93390319
do you make lots of comment son other peoples' shit? that, plus a neat username and/or icon, is what gets me to go check out your shit.

>>93390319
Don't use dA. It is for retarded Sonic OC autists.

>>93390403
Oh, I see. I guess I just totally disagree with you, but that last bit sounds good.

>>93390354
I have just heard of tapas, is it any good? Or maybe some other webcomic sites that you could recommend?
>>93390454
It's sad cause I do. I do comment, give faves etc.
>>93390474
Unfortunately this is the impression I'm getting after browsing everyday.

>>93390512
Tapas is decent. The layout is not the best but that is any person's own preference I think.

>>93390512
Use a normal hosting site meant for hosting comics.
Anyway your comic looks a little dry and the style's... mild? Dunno what else to call it, but it's not going to draw a ton of people in the way familiar fanart does. That's just our nature. If you wanna get viewers, you're going to have to find a way to make it quickly clear what makes it special. If it's drama or something, maybe find a snippet of dialogue that sums up what it's about and .. uh.. put it.. somewhere

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>>93390484
>I think there are a lot of people out there who like to watch cartoons or movies as a form of escapism.
>Oh, I see. I guess I just totally disagree with you

>>93390297
CSP Pro is fine if you don't mind working with one page at a time, or for very short animations.
If you're serious about wanting to work on multi-page comics, or long animations, then consider going for EX. Sales come round every few months anyway, so save up and keep an eye out for the next one.

Version comparison chart:
http://my.smithmicro.com/manga-studio-ex-5-compare.html

>>93390484
So the bit about a main character making a comic?

>>93390963

Actually, this is a better feature comparison list:
http://my.smithmicro.com/manga-studio-5-compare.html

>>93386583

Hey Lucy, do you have any more work to toss up on here?

>>93390950
I meant I disagree on your insinuation that that's a bad thing.

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>>93390484
>I think there are a lot of people out there who like to watch cartoons or movies as a form of escapism.
>I guess I just totally disagree with you

Then why are you here anon?

>>93390964
We do need more like that. Oh, there's meta comics, sure, but it's rare that making-the-comic is actually part of the plot, rather than something where you're perpetually let in behind the scenes because the comic is about itself.

>>93391097
did you just ignore the rest of the post, or..

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>>93390963
>>93391036

Those lists were quite helpful, thanks anon.

At first I thought it would be ok to just buy Pro and later on upgrade to EX if I felt like using the other features but upgrading costs the same as if I bought it on discount in the first place so I will wait and just try the trial version for now just to get used to it. I have been using Photoshop for now (Kyle's brushes are really nice) so until then I will still use it.

>>93386583
>heart butts

unf

>tfw your art stopped progressing and it's degenerating

>>93386534
How long did it took you? A year? Because I remember your first sketch.

>>93391100
I'm having a bit of trouble understanding. Could you explain further?

>>93393609
if you're anything like me, you swerve wildly high and low, like a sine wave. Just ride the highs best you can.

>>93390319

Bottom Left's bubble looks weird. Can't you make it a little longer and fit on either side of her face?

>>93380364
shit looks nice. godspeed.

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I did a few rough sketches of the villains for my webcomic. So months, if not years, from now when it's time to actually draw them into the comic, I'll remember what they're roughly supposed to look like.

>>93393609
I've noticed this happening to me. I think it's a mix of not challenging myself often enough and going through periods of a few weeks without really drawing much.

>>93391100
I've always wanted to see something done in the style of Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics but with an actual narrative.
What kind of narrative? I have no idea.

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>>93394477
>Lizard-eating frog god

>>93393738
What I'm saying is, I can't think of any webcomic equivalents of Animation Runner Kuromi, where it's an anime about a person in charge of an anime studio, but she isn't making the anime you're watching.
For the most part we get things like Whomp! where the webcomic exists, but making it isn't part of the story, it's just about someone who makes them.

>>93394477
>mccloud
there have been a few super way-out webcomics where the people in them are aware they're in a comic and everything gets all existential and weird, but...

>>93394477
I like this a lot! Tell me about Paragon and the Creek Things.

>too lazy to do a joke where i write in that i was too lazy to do something in the comic
>because it would take longer than just doing it. ff. fine.

>>93394782
Unfortunately, the only times I've seen these kinds of things, it has the protagonist retreating into some kind of ethereal cosmic backstage to have a monologue (I'm thinking of Asterios Polyp and Cerebus, specifically) rather than several characters involved in some kind of conflict or overcoming obstacles in a (for like of a better term) "meta way".

>>93394813
Sure.
Long story short: Paragon is a Lovecraft-like interdimmensional monster that is inside of a magical suit.
In the backstory of the comic, he was a big shot pirate/marauder/warlord who came in to conflict with a few warriors who defeated him, causing him to lose his power and wealth.

His role in the comic itself is that the main character is a somewhat minor obstacle in a bid for revenge against those who initially defeated him but gradually he and the main character end-up genuinely hating each other and opposing what one another are trying to accomplish. It gets to the point where Paragon sees defeating his old enemies as part of his greater plan to fuck with the main character.
So, overall Paragon is the main villain of the comic. Or at least, he fits the bill of "main villain" the best.

The creek things are a couple of ghouls that live outside the main character's house. He tries to be civil with them but they are both feral and strangely interested in attacking him specifically. All that's really clear about what they are and where they came from is that they were once humans but had some kind of run-in with Paragon.
I wanted to play around with tones in the comic and these two are supposed to be more horror-like villains as opposed to sillier villains like the lizard-eater-guy and the more traditional adventure villains like Paragon.

>>93379897
Thats some seriously fucked up language you have got there mate.

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aaand he's down. this temporary time-filling villain turned out better than I thought
Pro Tip: all of Robin's spell chants have secret hidden political messages! can you find them all?

>>93395491
I want to see the cat girl raped by the snek man.

>>93395491
If you added a little bit of facial details on the humans and the clothing, this page would actually be kinda good.

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Chipping away at it. Introducing the mother in this chapter. No orphans here.

>>93393609
It's a hard life anon.
For me I'm just happy my art doesn't look like a bleedman clone anymore at least.

>>93395643
Why would he? It's obvious he's going for a cartoony style

>>93395643
woikin' on it. been trying to add more eye outline detail lately. should be able to work more of that in without disrupting the style too badly.
as for clothing shit i just need to study more, I found I put the same damn krelbow sleeve-folds in this comic like 12 times. can you see any specific spots the clothes could use a tweak? would appreciate just one. one at a time, yknow?

>>93395960
yeah but he has a point, whenever i think about doing one of those '16 different expressions' exercises, I realize my expressions are realllly similar and subtle. I really do need to do more. and more exaggerated anime faces and shit, i've been neglecting those hardcore in favor of really boring samey expressions. just because pixel art was an inspiration is no excuse not to push the eyebrows and mouth corners and such

>>93378131
>Wise words from John Cleese:
the link is dead but im pretty sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSIAvqmG7xo

is the video

>>93396178
thanks, we have to update that every so often. it gets removed but there's always another

>>93395984
Yeah I would be careful with the details, as it can make your style look ugly real fast. I think your time would be better spent utilizing perspective more, so you can draw more dynamic scenes. Right now everything seems to be at a similar eye level. I think you could leave the expressions if the camera was positioned dynamically.

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>>93396299
yep that too. been trying to push that a little harder lately.. just.. sure as hell not in this page. I mean maybe a little with Robin's charge-up, but..
I tried that a little on this page from last month.. with varying results.

uhhh...don't know who else to ask. Help me /co/. How much should I charge for a 15K erotica Sci-fi as a ghostwriter? I read online I should ask for $7,500. There's no way the other guy will agree to that.

Any suggestions?

>>93397263
Ask for 7,500, but don't go any lower than 4K I would say.

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what is the streaming site for mediocre artists?
I have been doing private streamings with zero(0) viewers, but I think I'm ready for the real thing.

>>93397263
meaning 15,000 words?
if youve written before you should know how long that will take you. multiply the hours by 15 or 20.

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Oh fuck I tried twitch and someone said "hi" and I panicked, fuck this I'm not ready.

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>>93379244
>>93388633
nother teaser page

What is the point of making web comics anyway?
It's not like they are profitable or able to get you a job in comic industry.

>>93398912
Most of the popular webcomic artists make way more money than professional comicbook artists these days.

>>93399202
Those who create some weird meme fuel, they sure do. But that neither really drawing nor writing.
I wonder what happens with them once their series get stale it's not like they grow through years as artists either.

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>>93398912
If you want a job making comics, then you have to make comics. Web or print, comics are comics.

>>93399269
Well if we are talking about webcomics that appeal to the common denominator then I see your point but the majority of the time someone starts a webcomics the art and sometimes the writing evolve along with it.

is there magic music or background sound that can help me focus in my comic?
often I have a hard to draw scene and it takes me weeks, wish I could just draw people talking.

There's anything better than tapas? It kinda sucks for me.

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Here is my thing.

It is concept art for my next chapter.

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How long did it take you to learn how to draw decent human heads?

>>93399800
1000 hours of sketching very heads.

>>93399832
So, a couple of years of daily practice?

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>>93399578
Looks all right. I'm guessing you were going for a Journey vibe? You should prepare yourself, however, that the inevitable comparisons will be to pic related.

>>93399878
Fuck, no matter what do. I can't get away from it.

So my plan currently is to stock pile chaps set up a website. Then release the chapters monthly. How's that sound? Chaps would be 25 to 40 pages a month.

>>93399935
What do your other characters look like?

>>93399972
sounds good, get to it

>>93399993
Currently stock piling chaps Actually.

>>93399972
Good for storytelling, but bad good for audience retention. If you want to build a following, you need to have people checking your website more often.

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>>93399977
there is more.

>>93400003
sounds good, stop replying on 4chan and do more

>>93400040
Nice, maybe to differentiate from the homestuck guy you add more details to the character you showed us earlier.

>>93399849
It's entirely dependent on your skill ceiling.

>>93400010
>bad good
LOL. I tried to write "not good".

I'm thinking of drawing my comic pages on paper, then scanning them in to work on them digitally. Not to great at drawing digitally yet. Whats a good size paper to use? Regular a4 or something bigger?

>>93400651
Depends on whatever you can fit on your scanner and, if you're planning to go to print, the standard paper sizes that printers use in your country.

That said, A4 should be fine, scan them in as high resolution (600dpi or higher).

You can draw on A3, but if you only have an A4 scanner, you'll have to digitally stitch the pages together.

>>93400830

I have an a4 scanner, but I heard using something is sometimes better, cause then you can draw slightly biiger images and add more detail. I have stuff like photoshop, so I could stitch pages together.

>>93399546
Wow, I never thought I would live to see an anon in hyw who sucks more at drawing than I.
You can't give up either, can you?

>>93395246
Not sure if this is just a Filipino thing that seems edgy-er/harsher in English. This is sort of just friendly banter between close people.
Kind of like how "puta" in spanish is an insult but we use it like the word "fuck".

>>93401534
that's a very good artstyle, what's your site?

>>93402848
>LOL didn't read

>>93401534
>Sheesh! I get it! You're gonna cum! Big deal!
Now there's a line to use in bed.

>>93385708
Youre trying to get a reaction out of me arnt you? Lost cause be gone from this place.

>>93385708
>>93404218
I really wish you made that batman comic so I can have the motive to make a better one and shit on yours , really pisses me off that I took the time to give you advice when I don't do that at all and you completely disregard it. Go to ic your useless here this is for webcomics and your taking up posts.

>>93404315
Anyways I'm posting a page for way of the gun tommorow, iv been busy reading the dune books and haven't had time to make pages but tommorow I'll make time.

>>93401534
Me on the last panel

>>93399530
exciting or nostalgic theme songs do it for me

>>93399549
>There's anything better than tapas?
yes. everything.
>>93399800
I'll tell you when I get there.

>>93399800
Nigga I don't even use construction lines

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One more recent comic

>>93406341
oh god
wait why would a pharmacy have a..

yay, Mostly Lizard updated again.. I mean okay not much of an update, but I was this close to putting it away in the 'done' folder and waiting for Rawrunes to come update us if and when he resumed.

>>93406341
Stop posting in this thread and go back to working on your cartoon, John K! You took all that kickstarter money!

>>93406341
I like that.

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Postin some doodles.
I developed the habit of always taking a small notebook (one of those expensive hipster moleskine ones, very good binding, barely any gutter loss) with me. Can only recommend this, both for passing the time and collecting ideas.

1/3
A map. I like drawing maps for my locations.

>>93406341
Do or did you go to art school?
Because you sure are better than plenty of art school students I've seen around hyw...

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2/3
My handwriting is pretty much unreadable so I want to use it as the writing in an ancient book about magic that is to appear in my webcomic. It's only going to appear in one or two panels but the text isn't nonsense but a short story that will serve as an easster-egg to any reader who bothers to decipher it.

On a related note, what easter-eggs have you hidden in your webcomic?

>>93408821
That's actually a neat thing to do. Also, it may be unreadable, but your handwriting is neater than the book and the map. Though I take it these are just doodles

>>93408838
Thanks. You're the first person ever to compliment my handwriting - caused me some troubles in high school because none of the teachers could read it...

>>93408962
yeah I mean that's why "handwriting" as in cursive is dumb and lame, nobody can read it.. but yours is neat and regular, so it looks just like what you'd see in an old manuscript. I love checking those out, antique books and whatnot.

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3/3
I'm working on an adventure comic. In chapter three there's going to be a flying vessel that occassionally gets in danger when flying beasts approach. It has a large unfolding sail with a painted on eye that chases them away.
I want it to resemble the painitngs on ancient greek ships to make a little reference to the Argonauts although I doubt readers will pick it up. I just have a real love for little details like this even if they don't add much to the comic...

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4/3
Gnomes!

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>>93409111
cont
I'm going to have a sorcerer character in chapter three.
He imprisons the main character and, ultimately, gets stabbed and loses most of his power.
His servant is an enchanted teddybear. I wrote a lot of scenes for him but most will have to be cut to keep the page count managable...

>>93409212
The lettering feels off. The typeface you chose is uncomic-like.

>>93410217
ok, I was put off by using comic-sans because it's gained a reputation for being overused.

>>93409111
that's pretty clever. I feel like someone needs to do a scifi version of that where the scary thing is a hologram used by peaceful explorers who don't wanna hurt the local wildlife with their atmospheric spaceships

>>93410244
You should use a font that is neither Comic Sans nor your present font. Find something on the 'nets.

>>93410650
Thanks.
I recycle ideas a lot and design elements or plot points from different projects get switched around or introduced to different concepts if it feels natural. I could definitely see this in a sci-fi setting. But the artist I'm collaborating with wants to do a fantasy themed comic so there's where it's going for now...

>>93410244
overused is the only legit complaint, except that since it got that reputation, it's now quite underused.
in any case, you do want a sans-serif font. serifs are just so... typewritery. newspapery.

Should I make this character a good guy or bad guy?

Basics:
>He was a god who lost a fight vs an evil god and was sealed away for eons.
>A little girl unwittingly unseals him and "dies" doing so.
>Now he's a spirit who wants his body back to regain full power.
>His body has been reborn (into the MC).
>He jumps into his body, but can't take over and is kicked out by the little girl.
>He gets a new body so he can kill the MC and take over that way.


As bad guy:
>He wants his full power back to take over the world.
>He comes out of hiding with his new body after the MC beats the evil god.
>He answers all the MC's questions about his origins and says that the MC's destiny is to become evil and take over the world, because he's an evil god too.
>The MC believes him and wants to leave the world free of gods and to the true heroes: his friends and all the regular people he met along the way.
>The MC tricks the little girl into leaving.
>The MC lets him jump back into his body, but it's a trick, because he kills them both with a soul merging explosion.
>The little girl comes back to contain the explosion. She dies too, but the shower of her magic heals the planet.

As good guy:
>He is a preincarnation of the MC who failed because he didn't have any friends.
>He has to kill the MC, because he believes that only he is strong enough to defeat the evil god.
>The MC beats him up and shows him that he is stronger because he has friends.
>He agrees and disappears for a long time, but then comes back to fight the evil god so that the MC can get away.
>The MC accepts his friend request.

As a bad guy, he allows a very clean ending, but he's not the appropriate final big bad, because he's only connected to the MC, whereas the evil god has connections to everyone. As a good guy, he's touching character and lets the evil god be the final big bad, but maybe he gives away the biggest spoilers too early and might not allow as clean of an ending.

>>93412302
why does he wants to take over the world?
to me both seem like basic anime plots (even with the girl sacrificing to save the world madoka style)
I mean how can you make a character without knowing it's role on the story, you are describing two totally different characters

>>93412302
That is not only fucking awesome, it's just like a JRPG or two I can think of, except with a more interesting twist. Namely getting kicked out by the little girl.
If he really wants to kill her, he'd better be an evil god. but if he just wants petty revenge, he can be an angry but basically-good god.
Wait, did I get confused, the little girl isnt the main character? because that's how I'd do it. Died in the process of reviving the god, revived by the god, then evicted the possession. You could call it like I Won't Be Your Avatar

I don't understand that other scenario shit, why would a god be a ... "preincarnation"? Why would killing him accomplish anything?

>>93412302
Why don't do both?

It may sound cliché as all hell but the way you describe them so differently as bad guy and good guy, you could play some duality in there.

>>93413501
yeah what if that ritual or whatever unlocked two gods who were sealed up in neverending stasis with each other, keeping some balanced forces in check or whatever

>>93378121
Your story is finally reaching it's full climax, be it emotional, action-packed, or all and anything
What song is playing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvAagDtMx8Y

>>93414471
Although I must say my favorite track is Sanctuary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4I6AJHjF98

>>93414471
>Your story is finally reaching its full climax
Yes it is!
>What song is playing?
somewhere between https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU1vqnnIr1E and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-kYtVetgQ

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Pipin' hot.

>>93412500
>basic anime plots
Those are what inspire me, so that's what they are. I haven't seen Madoka though, just stuff from when I was a kid.

>why does he wants to take over the world?
All the gods do. Getting power is what makes them happy. That's how they were raised by the other gods. That's another one of my issues with him being a bad guy. It gives me 2 big bads with lame because-he's-evil motivations instead of just 1.

>I mean how can you make a character without knowing it's role on the story
I originally made him as a bad guy, but I started having doubts. The good guy is a rewrite that I like and works so far.

>>93412567
>the little girl isnt the main character?
That's right. The MC is NOT the little girl. The little girl got turned into a magical spirit when she "died". She was drawn to the god's vacant body, and when she settled inside it, it was reborn into the MC. He's her little brother, and she lives in his heart and protects him.

>why would a god be a ... "preincarnation"
>>93413638
>you could play some duality in there.
I'm doing this thing where the MC is a god born on Earth and raised by regular people who taught him kindness and friendship as the key to happiness. As a good guy, my character would be born on Earth too, except maybe he didn't have as lucky of an upbringing, hence he's MC 1.0 or a preincarnation. As a bad guy, he was born in the god world and raised by the other gods who taught him power was the key to happiness, so he's the MC raised by gods instead of people, hence some duality going on.

>>93414471
Well my story is more structured into a "season" format, though I only have actual work done for what you might call "season 1".

With that in mind...

https://youtu.be/DXP1KdZX4io

I still don't have it down pat but the idea is to have the main protag confront the darkness underpinning the town, and basically get saved by her mysterious ties to another hinted at yet previously unseen being, while the side heroes deal with the main villain of the arc, a spoiled brat who was manipulated by the actual villains into trying to mindrape the heroes and basically keep them out of the picture.

>>93415905
>little sister
okay that's actually a cute idea

>>93400040
i like your eyes. they remind me of terror terror terror.

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do you guys use toon boom?

i was wondering if it's worth looking into

seems like adobe is revamping adobe flash though is it any good?

i saw toon boom's 3-d stage and i was kind of blow away by it

>>93416582
Toon Boom is good if you still know nothing about animating in either programs, though it has a god awful UI that can really turn you off
If you already know a decent amount about Flash to say make a Minute cartoon or so, stick with Flash

>>93414471
I imagined the scene of the good guy saving the MC here >>93412302 to the tune of the Exodia theme. You'll see why! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_-VhrGJerA

[no Exodia theme yet. wait.]
>The evil god in his enormous final form has MC & friends trapped on the ground. He's gonna get them, but just then, Good Guy flies in to save the day.
>Good Guy is in the air, eyes fixed on the evil god, wielding his staff, and standing between him and our heroes. He is gonna hold the line so that MC & friends can escape!
>The friends escape, but MC stays.
>Good Guy, with his back turned to MC, asks him to accept his friendship as if tearing off a bandaid.
>MC accepts.
>Good Guy closes his eyes and blushes, having made his first friend. He thanks the MC and tells him to get lost before he changes his mind.
>MC flies up into the air, shouts at his new friend to live, and flies off.
>In his head, Good Guy tells his soldiers he is setting them free and asks them to be kind. He opens his eyes and raises his staff.
>The evil god goes "huh?".
>Good Guy shouts the magic words to summon the 5 pieces of the great demon.
[Exodia theme starts playing - first swell 0:01]
>The 5 pieces summon, form the great demon, and give the evil god a good whack.
>The evil god is shocked that Good Guy could summon a being so powerful and fears that he's dealing with a god.
[Exodia theme keeps playing - second swell 0:41]
>A glory shot of Good Guy in the air looking godly and wielding his staff.
>Good Guy winds his staff back and lunges at the evil god.
>The evil god, in full panic mode, screams.
>Good Guy swings at the evil god with all his might.
>The two and the great demon disappear into battle dust.
>One character of the main cast who has been watching from afar wonders if the evil god has been beaten.
>END SCENE

So, would you guys call this a homage or rip off?

finally getting back to drawing after I went to animenext for 3 days.

>>93418197
hope all your swag inspired you

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>>93378131
Just a heads up that myscriptfont.com no longer exists and has moved to "calligraphr.com", which offers a paid service but still lets you make a font for free I'm pretty sure.

I also think I was probably one of if not the last person to use myscriptfont, and the font below comic sans is the one I made. I'm not thrilled with it. I might use it, trace over it, or trace over another font.

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Well, I'm drunk. So I'm here.
The Sisters updated: http://thesisters-comic.com/
This week, Erin and Dan try to come to terms about how she's clearly keeping secrets and that lead to her car exploding. Of course, nothing good can come of this.

Next week: Aethon finally gets how things work now.
We're on our finale issue for our second arc; though there will be a little epilogue mini with the kids finally going to the anime convention Chel's been rambling about all this arc. Then we pick up immediately with Winter.

I'm not disappointed with how the second arc has been going, but it hits a lot of issues I have with other things; it sets up future things more than it delivers on its own conflict. Very much our Fool Moon; though I really liked that one. But it ain't Grave Peril, that's for fucking sure.

>>93414471
Had it in mind, first arc and hitting second arc climax moments soon.
Got future ones down in mind, because I have a specific musical tone in mind for my comic. Which is really colored by nostalgia and figures from the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jApge5aA5PY - First Arc, Chase/Conflict/Action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfeEcCLMtxk - Second Arc, Conflict/Revelations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-hyOnScZhw - Third Arc,
Conflict/Restoration/Action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFFXznlJxHM - Fourth Arc, Emotional/Action/Revelation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0 - Fifth Arc/Revelation

>>93406341
Delightful.
>>93401534
...and accurate.

>>93398912
Some people just want t tell a story. There are far better ways to do it than comics, but those fields might already be saturated with those types of stories. People like to express things in different ways, plus as >>93399382 said; comics are comics and it helps the portfolio build.

>>93390403
Tolkien wrote a good essay on Escapism vs Desertion, which might be a useful read for you.

>>93398912
I'm not confident enough either on my abilities as a writer-only nor in the intended audience's patience to read without drawings.

>>93418829
well it seems like you have a lot to set up. I sure as hell never saw Liam's return coming. That's like.. fuckin' significant. That's like Hamato Yoshi coming back.

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>>93418913
We considered doing more subtle bullshit, but it felt more appropriate to actually see him given that he's going to be doing stuff this issue. He's a longer term antagonist, and given how much his actions colored Conrad's desperation and Aethon's already palpable hatred for humanity; just felt like we ought to introduce him buck-naked and fresh from the corpse pile.

But setting stuff up shouldn't come at the cost of things in the current story. This arc was supposed to be a lot about things crashing down, but really it became about how the secrets the girls keep poisoning those around them; which is a slight retread of the first arc where that led to Conrad's violent spiraling out. I like how the Society has managed to have a slow death, and how it has crumbled quite a bit; Scott's legacy is marred; but Guy has had a bit too much screen time--often with Beatrice, but Beatrice needs more central stage being a main character; and she gets some of that this issue.

Next arc will be better, it gets to use some of the set-up here and it'll be a nice change in color palette to hit winter cools after a musty spring and a red summer hot. The Green Book, Liam's opus that Eddy had a draft of, becomes relevant; Beatrice tries to be a better person, Jam finds clarity of purpose, and there's a more direct antagonist to the crew as a whole. It also isn't directly a corruption narrative, because shit if that ain't my life and shit if that ain't what things turn out to be so damn often when I write.

Glad you're reading it though Anon, hope you're enjoying it. I'm gonna fucking pass out though, so best of luck in your endeavors.

>>93419014
yeah I'll agree there were some bombshells that felt more like those little twisted paper things with gunpowder and sand inside. You know the ones. like when flamey mcbockbock finally attacked it almost flew right past me without impact, and that's... really important.
But fuck, all the stuff I like best in this comic? all the character interactions and shit? that's all fine as wine

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Eyes

>>93420433
Vigor Mortis, is that you?

i can't find happiness in comics anymore, i'm losing it

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>>93407174
Oh no, I haven't updated since November, I am ashamed to admit.

But I started to move it to it's own website last week. Hopefully I will finish my fight against wordpress this weekend, as well as transferring all the posts.

Additionally I was considering of adding a small prologue. This would be the best opportunity for that I guess.

The next update should be soon after. I started working a bit ago so I actually have an excuse now beside demovtivation when the updates take a while, but hopefully never again as long as this one.

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>>93410097
cont
I need a powerful magical artifact for my sorcerer character, so far I've come up with a small flask that covers that body in a layer of armor-like scales when crushed and a crystal than can absorb and release fire.
Which should I use? I think the second would make for great visuals but the first is less generic, can't decide...

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>tfw past 30 (wizard) watching all these young people growing doing their first comics
i thought I was gonna make it, just like you. one day, one of you is going to end up like me. beware

>>93421355
guess how old stan lee was when he wrote his first super hero comic?

keep making shit wizardanon. who gives a shit. just make stuff.

>spent 3 years procrastinating
>guy offers me free meth
>tell him I don't do drugs
>months go by
>guy offers it again
>fuckit.jpeg
>gives me a lot
>totally methed out
>finish entire comic and send it to printers

why

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>>93420433

>>93420722
Yeah

How is important is stuff like fan interaction if you want to set up a webcomic? Like I don't think I'll ever become super popular or anything, or have to worry about stalker or creepy fans. But It would be nice to see what fans think of your comics once they eventually get made and put out there.

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>>93421552

>>93421789
fuck the fans

>>93414471
preferably, it's a long ass animated segment, accompanied by this full album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFA0FYQo0Gg

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>>93414471
starting around 2:35
https://youtu.be/uy_F192z-po?t=152

>>93421061
That is a valid excuse. Criminy, it's been that long? I've been checking every day

>>93421065
why would he only have one? You've gotta have attack and defense magic
By the way I don't think you call that a flask. it's a little solid glass encasement, right? I think that's a phial

>>93421511
Make sure you save up the money you make on comics for dental work. and more meth, assuming you didn't learn your lesson
>>93421789
put up some kind of comments section and occasionally reply to the neat ones

>>93421511
stimulants do that. ritalin made me balls fucking tired all the time and only slightly more motivated but my ADD is edge case as fuck so sucks to be me

>>93424576
>phial
You're absolutely right, thanks anon. English isn't my first language.

As for why I'll only use one: chapter limitations. I got like what, 30 pages for this chapter, maybe 35. Gotta keep that plot moving.
The sorcerer appears in chapter 3 and for chapter 4 the location changes and I need to keep the focus on the MC. If we get past chapter 6 maybe he'll get a second appearance or I'll intoduce more sorcerer characters and I can give some spare designs and concepts from chapter 3 to them...

So, which do you prefer? I'm about to flip a coin here.

>>93424979
defense is useless if all you can do is stand there and take hits and can't do anything else, so I guess the crystal.

>>93425144
The crytal it is, then.

There are plenty of situations i can come up with where the mail would bes more useful, though. Keep in mind, I'm not doing a battle or action comic where you need a sophisticated battle system or anything like that. I just need a scene where magic is used as a weapon.

>>93425353
yeah exactly, and armor isn't a weapon. If he has literally only one spell, it had better be more versatile than that.
Unless he's some kind of kung fu wizard and the scales make his fists as hard as diamonds.
>I'm not doing a battle or action comic where you need a sophisticated battle system or anything like that. I just need a scene where magic is used as a weapon.
so.. he's literally just going to be in one scene? Because it SOUNDS like a battle or action comic.

>>93421855
I think Vigor Mortis is the best Bleach comic I've ever read, including Bleach.

>>93425384
>it SOUNDS like a battle or action comic

You got me. I have a strong predisposition for action comics so even my non-action comics have usually a few elements or scenes like that. I'll leave the context ambigous though which works fine scince the character is literally using magic. The character is going to be the centerpiece for chapter 3 but not the focus of the comic. There's a lot of ground to cover so the first couple of chapters are going to be relatively self-contained stories with changing locations and characters (except MC).

you mean draw for people who don't deserve anything?

have fun with that haha

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>>93409303
Can I get some feedback on this Gnome design?
I'm worried it might look a bit too alien for a fantasy comic.

>>93425640
I mean, it IS an alien, right? It looks the right amount of alien for an alien.

>>93425682
No, gnomes are magical creatures like fairies and shit.

>>93421511
post it dud

>>93425640
Ithink it looks good, like those tic tac creatures in princess mononoke.... or was it nausicaa?

>>93425703
'kay. well it's a lot more alien than, say, those little rattle-head guys from Mononoke Hime, but as long as it's explained that this is a magical creature and not meant to be a physical animal that lives on Earth along with other animals, then you're probably good. After all, it's LESS alien than, say, a glowing ball or fireball that floats around

>>93425932
>little rattle-head guys from Mononoke Hime

oh snap, those look pretty similar.
Well, he's going to be somewhat of a comic relief character, so a weird look might not be too bad...

>>93425412
We haven't actually read/watched Bleach between us, but people do keep saying that so it's probably for the best.

>>93421355
I'm nearly 30 and just started trying this webcomic deal.

not expecting it to be a success of any kind I just want to do it to say I did.

>>93426008
Not super similar, just in the sense of being weird and having holes in the roundish head and I guess being white, though I dunno if you're coloring this.
And yeah that'd be neat for comedy, with his weird expressions.
Actually he reminds me most of the aliens in some of Copyrezo's work. Yknow the guy who drew Minus. I don't remember if they were in that, but there were definitely some weird-ass aliens in another of his stories.. this chubby girl goes swimming and ends up in this cave full of alien critters in another world or something.. whole thing's done without dialogue except their own swirly weird gibberish in word bubbles

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its not exactly a web comic but im working on an illustrated story.
here are three pictures, despite my lack of skills I'm having trouble settling an art style.
I was going for a slightly cartoony style but a painted feel. It's turned out messy as you can see.

>>93426852
it's a little messy but I think you can totally get away with this painting style and backgrounds. Your only issue here is the anatomy that's wonky even within the cartoony style, such as mismatched eyes and arms and poor posture

I hope DIsregarding Reality guy shows up again. I have so many questions.

>>93426875
yes the wonkyness is not good. I'll have to practice that, I've done some 3d modeling in the past and actually considered creating a model and rigging it so I can put it in poses and use as a reference.


The bottom left being the better one I've done, although when painting it I remember it taking it a long time. I was using photoshop to paint layers of shading and then putting them low transparency. I guess I should also develop a work flow.

>>93427035
how long did it take you to make these?

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I replaced the first panel at the last minute, still not super-happy with it. The color of the blasts from the robots is the same as the rockets on their armored suits, and in the first version there was just a lot of yellow things everywhere. I went with a side/rear view so the rockets would be more noticed.

Maybe I should have combined the word bubbles in the last panel and put them both on the bottom.

The story: the two superheroines here continue daily training. They have to avoid getting hit by the robots without attacking them. The brunette (the lead) is distracted by events on previous pages. I tried to make the blonde more prominent to help the idea that the brunette is just going through the motions.

>>93427113
hard to say but around 6-8 hours each.
I try and set aside two sessions after work each week.

>>93426061
I believe you. It's just the setting, the characters, the concept, the whole aesthetic, even some of the pages like when Pierce (?) stabs his female colleague with a long sword in the back and through the chest just scream Bleach in your face.
Maybe once you finished Vigor Mortis take a day and read Bleach from start to finish and you'll see where people are coming from.

It's totally possible that people all over the globe come up with very similar pieces of art without ever having been in contact. I speak from experience: I've had plenty of designs and concepts I scrapped because: this already exists? Well, shit.

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>>93421065
cont
At the end of chapter 3 the sorcerer gets stabbed (MC makes her escape) and his blood rains down from his flying vessel and where it drenches the ground a kind of forest grows.
I really like this idea but it doesn't really connect with the plot and putting it at the end of the chapter would seem like a cliffhanger or at least imply that it will be relevant later. So I'm currently contemplating to make it into a short epilogue, maybe two pages. What do you think?

>>93427035
3d modeling is great for helping you with perspective and such, but not great for making your poses less stiff
and yeah the bottom left is definitely the best figure

>>93427142
slightly confusing how we can't see the beams during the 'hit' but in general this is actiontastic.

>>93427142
>panel 5
That's a HIT, alright.

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>>93427636
Might aswell post the guy.
No, he's not super buff, he's just wearing one of those wide 17th century french shirts like in the three Musketeers. He's a pretty vain guy and changes outfits a lot.

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>>93421855
Finished page (this'll be being rescanned in a few days as this was done on a backup one)

I'm having a hard time shaking the notion that webcomics and long-form stories aren't compatible in any way, shape, or form. If it takes nearly a decade for you to roll out your comic page by page, and you're telling a story you've planned out at least roughly, the fact that 10 years will pass in real time while your story inches along over the span of that timeframe in a preserved bottleneck of fictitious time will lead to vast gulfs of discrepancy between reality and your fiction. Your art visibly improving to the point where the first hundred or so pages are hard to look at is a more benign example of what can go wrong. On the other end of the spectrum, you have creator burnout, your fandom getting burnt out and reduced in size over time (sometimes you can take long enough to draw in a new, but smaller, fandom, and rinse and repeat), and other works by professional teams of productive people doing this for a living telling a story similar to yours in a much more satisfying and well-paced way.

Has there ever been a story-driven webcomic that you were able to stick with from page one to the ending, as it updated?

>>93428316
looks like a good scan to me
>>93428430
you basically just explained why comics DO go with longform

>>93428430
This is a very prevalent problem in manga, too. Manga are generally a lot more-long running. It can work when story just grows organically and is allowed to stray a bit at times like, say, the first 10 or so years of one piece and hxh, but you're right.

I don't feel it's that much of a problem for webcomics because the overwhelming majority of them dies long before you fell any such effect.

>>93428430
IMO best stories are the shortest ones, like movies, short, powerful but not over sized
this is of course a bigger challenge to an author since he must come up with lots of good different stories to work

>>93428530
I did? I don't understand.
>>93428544
Very true, and that's another problem altogether.

>>93428430

I think this is only true if;

1) The creator isn't motivated enough to finish it in the first place

2) The creator is a bad artists at the start

3) You do a page by page update weekly/monthly update

If you have decent skill, dedication, and you are capable of posting several pages or whole chapters on a monthly or weekly basis, you'll have more success.

Of course none of this is guaranteed.

>>93428544
>>93428630

I also don't understand why someone would go with long form based on what anon said. Please elaborate. Seems like all the points were negative.

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http://boysland.thewebcomic.com/archive/#ch_99904

New chapter is out, heading toward the finale of Farm Land!

>>93428624
>like movies, short, powerful but not over sized

considering pretty much every book to film adaptation is inferiror to the literary work it's based on, I'd say that's a questionable statement at the very least...

>>93428774
Did Tigre steal Gatomon's claws?

>>93428774
I was tempted to post this very image as a reaction. it is fantastic

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>>93428971

Yup, Tigre's gloves are a reference to Tailmon's gloves!

>>93428774
typo on page nine. gentle*
also you'd probably want to say 'stitches' there. 'stitching' is something a garment or a stuffed animal has.
also these monsterS*
page 11, marshmallows*

also I like how Tigre refers to people by their real-life animal. like i guess Boys' Land still has those in addition to monsters eh

>>93429059
Thanks dude, I'm glad you liked it. Last minute addition

>>93429133
Thanks grammar-anon! We'll fix it.

>>93428926
>trainspotting

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>>93382588
I was gonna do something like this but with the concept of media scapegoating. The story would go that a town is having health problems that comes from really shitty water, and while the answer is obvious with a little bit of digging, their is a paper company that blames the whole thing on one guy. Long story short the entire town ends up killing him in a mob and then feel awful when the problem gets worse months later.

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>>93427142
The last two I would have done in this way to have a better storytelling in my opinion.

>>93429322
because they dumped him in the water?

>>93429378
I was thinking like a lynching type event because the copa would be in on it as well. It would hughlight the mob mentality phenomenon.

>>93429299
Yeah, sure. There's plenty examples. But usually it's a very talented director (like David Fincher) turning a mediocre source (Gone Girl) into a great film.

It's very difficult with accomplished works of literature, though. The LoTR films (especially the first) are great adaptations and the changes they made from the book made a lot of sense in the context of film as a medium but you could still argue (as many do) that the film can't hold its own in a comparison taken at face value...

>>93429585
That would come across as silly in a modern setting unless the circumstances are extraordinary like during a time of extreme crisis.
In the context of your story it would make a lot more sense if some of the townsfolk form a more extreme group and then one of the more impressionable or psychologically instable members goes and kills the guy on his own and the town has to deal with the guilt...

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what does your comic has to offer that differentiates it from others?

>>93430700
boobies?

>>93430700
Neat settings and above average art.
It's not amazing but I'm happy with it, considering.
I'd say there's few webcomics that are completely unique, webcomics are generally speaking less proficient indie comics...

>>93430700
Nothing, really.

>>93430738
great, post some boiii
>>93430846
which one is yours??
>>93430928
at least it's good right?????

I've only ever drawn pen to paper. Where do you start digitally? I'm assuming tablets are expensive as fuck.

>>93430700
Bean power

>>93431474
Just buy a Bamboo Tablet to start, they're cheap and give you a jumping off point. I'm still using a Bamboo Silver at home to make our comic.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bamboo+tablet&oq=bamboo+tablet&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.1599j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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>>93430700
A consistent update schedule of multiple pages

Above average art for a webcomic

Good humor? (I mean we like it, so whatever haha)

We got monsters yo! Monsters are always cool

Our characters are original and don't feel like fan characters that belong to other works.

An underlining sense of mystery through

People say it's, "fun" and they say it makes them smile. We love this comic, so we really want to share that with our readers.

>>93431586
>they say it makes them smile

This is my biggest ambition. Being able to live off telling fun stories and entertaining people has been my dream since I first strted writin in middle school. Shame that it's so hard to make it in this industry and a day-job is pretty much required.

>>93431474
a fine, adequate chinese slave labor tablet is as much as a good quality scanner, so.. pick your bankruptcy

>>93431586
your human characters are original, but the monsters are definitely more digimon than they are anything else
not that there's anything wrong with that. better you pick one oeuvre and keep it consistent than haphazardly mix a bunch together

>>93431290
>post some
ummm! Okay, let's see.. I'll try to find some of the more recent shit, so it looks better. Here we go,
http://kiwidayn.comicgenesis.com/d/20170312.html Hel does not have much booby, she is a late bloomer
http://kiwidayn.comicgenesis.com/d/20170221.html Sasha has the most booby
http://kiwidayn.comicgenesis.com/d/20170225.html and here's some... goblin booby? If you're into that.
I've heard some people suspect me of tracing porn, which is weird because I know it aint that good.

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>>93430700
I'm not a fedora :^)

>>93430700
Financial solvency
Pretty decent art
A long term plan and projected end date
Right amount of popularity to keep it relatively successful but no attract obsessive negative attention

>>93433457
I guess it's also nice that people feel they can relate to the characters and tell me so very often. That's not why I wrote the comic. I kinda don't care if people can relate to my characters as long as they keep reading and enjoying my comic. So because of that it feels nice since it's like a bonus and means I'm working on levels I never even intended.

>>93433357
>fourtitted sailor moon rabbit lady

Oh my.

>>93433578
oh yeah forgot. she's half moon alien

>>93433357
Some friendly advice, if you ever hope to land a patron, you should at least fix the spelling errors in the descritption...

>>93433720
wha? spelling errors? me? I'm the one that proofreads for others...
wait, what description?

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4 page update, bros.

http://www.cosmicdash.com/comic/episode-3-pg-6-2/

>>93434759
I bet all other corporations kick themselves for not rebranding themselves Galacticorp upon establishment of a galactic civilization

why do the good ones always leave..

>>93437076
Has anyone good ever come here? Ive just seen the sisters one

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Bump with art WIP

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>Artist makes a drawing
>Takes a picture of the drawing pad with the pens next to it

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>>93378658
i am just rolling with it.

>>93439205
fuck off /ic/, some people want to know

>MFW Bluehost or Dreamhost do not accept Paypal to buy a domain.

Do you know a good page where they accept Paypal?

>>93439205
A friend does it but it only makes me mad because his drawings don't really scream the "oh wow what did you use?!" question. I wonder if I would feel the same about other artists if I knew them as well tho.

>>93440688
This post has some hosts on the Do's and Don'ts pastebin >>93378131 , maybe try them out? I haven't gone with any hosting service so I can't give a personal opinion.

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>>93440821
I only saw the "don't use godaddy" (Which I'm not), but I'll try the ones listed there.

Is it safe to come back?

>>93441157
Maybe

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>>93439205
>tfw I did that a few times years ago
>like really a lot of years ago
>when I thought it was neat and not embarrassing at all because of my shit skills at the time
>they still kinda are

>>93440688
paypal isnt really for use with businesses, it's for people you wouldnt wanna give your credit card number to.
a legit business, just use your card