Wonder Woman beats out Matrix Reloaded for highest grossing film

I thought Matrix films were directed by two brothers?

>>92992460
Had either of them transitioned at that point? Seems unfair to count them of not.

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>>92992460
Oh boy the DC stupid insanely specific and niche records are back

I can't wait for the Mummy to crush this when it gets that MASSIVE drop all DC movies get

>>92992469
No the first one did after Speed Racer but there were rumors of it around that time

that's a stupid comparison, because they're not a female. Transgender directors should be compared with their own kind.

>>92992466
They both transitioned.

>>92992485
Wait, who is excited to see the Mummy?

>>92992466
>I thought Matrix films were directed by two brothers?

They were. They're just drag-queens now and thanks to the bullshit that is SJWs, pretending to be the opposite gender means you're that gender now.

>>92992605
Yes but they made the Matrix trilogy BEFORE transitioning. They don't get to retroactively set records for shit women did, do they? That's terrible. That's like F2M trans people competing in women's athletic competitions and getting first place. Oh wait.

>>92992540
No one

But the drop is going to be so bad that it will easily crush Blunder Wimmyn

>>92992469
Neither of them had. So, while they are now female, it does seem kind of like an asspull to count them as the record.

>>92992460
>highest grossing female directors
>they were men
Hopefully Wonder Woman inspires women to step up their fucking game.

>>92992460
Lol what?! The Matrix was written and directed by the Wachowski Brothers. Brother are men, not women. The title of the article you posted makes no sense. How can a film written and directed by two men have been the previous highest grossing film directed by a woman? That sounds like misprint or uninformed article writer if you ask me. Hollywood should be upset at this sexist article.

>>92992540
>Not having Brendan Fraser at least cameo in it
all my disgust

>>92992677
That's cause Brendan Fraser is a literally who and the studio would be wasting whatever little shekels they'd need to get him to pop over for an afternoon because no one would care.

>>92992469
>>92992653
If you wanna make it more confusing, Lilly Wachowski said she has always been transgender, even when she was still going by Andy, but apparently she's pre-op and hasn't mentioned anything about going under the blade, so the only difference is really in the pronouns.

>>92992689
This he's a has-been no one cares about

Which means DC will announce his casting in one of their movies at comic-con

>>92992540
Is Brendan in?

>>92992460
Did they really have to go to the Matrix to get a female director box office? They were male when they made it.

>>92992460
>HuffPo
Into the trash it goes

>>92992460
I can't wait until all Olympic medals on female branch will be won by "females"

>>92992460
this film is pretty mediocre. It only did well because it didn't have any competition at the box office.

>>92992752
It's a bit of a predicament. Do they a) pick an actual, unarguably female director and pass the Wachowskis over, taking the risk of getting slammed with some contrived controversy, or do they b) pick the Wachowskis even though it makes everyone scratch their heads.

>>92992652
I hope tom cruise gets so buttmad about cape movies that he make an audition to replace Hugh as wolverine, he already nailed the manlet part.

>>92992485
>Oh boy the DC stupid insanely specific and niche records are back
This is hilarious because that's literally what Disney does for all their mocies, like "highest grossing solo hero debut" or "most watched online trailer"

>>92992901
>"highest grossing film in the second weekend in August and it looked like it might rain"

>>92992460
>Matrix Reloaded

Trannies shouldn't count.

>>92992460
I dunno, to call Reloaded, made pre-transition, the highest grossing film by a female director insinuates that your interest isn't in the sociological elements of how well a movie can do if people know it is made the a woman, but rather, the psychological elements of whether women can make good movies.

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>>92992820
>mfw he literally tries to steal the Batman role from Ben

>>92992540
I am only because it starts the monster movie universe
Sad Dracula Untold doesn't look like it will be part of it though

>>92992728
Brendan for Doctor Fate

>>92992932
>the psychological elements of whether women can make good movies
Which is largely irrelevant to the amount of money it makes anyway.

>>92992779
Same thing happened with Jurassic World but money's money.

>>92992639
That is exactly what happened. Because they were women on the inside the whole time, don't you know?

>>92992961
It looks like it'll underperform, so they might throw it away, just like how they threw away Dracula.

>>92992526
>>92992605
Had either of them transitioned at the time of shooting Reloaded, though? I thought they did that after.

>>92992540
I kinda like the idea of it, but I don't like the look of it. "A mummy raises hell in the modern world" is a premise I think is alright, even if it has been done before, but the movie just looks too big. It's like Suicide Squad, I think it'd benefit from having a story with a bit smaller scope.

>>92992932
Everyone wanted to see the next episode of matrix, it's revenue has nothing to be with quality, but with expectations.

Matrix 1 was the best matrix movie, the next ones were too much Kung fu and riddles with no answer.

>>92992990
They won't they're too invested at this point since they announced Cruz, Crowe, Depp, and Bardem

>>92992540
>tracking to make 40 millions on opening weekend
No one, it's just MCUcks being anally ravaged and pretending it's a big deal. Just like when they said Captain Underpants was going to beat WW and ended up making 5 times less

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>>92992988
>james cameron becomes a tranny just to fuck with them

>>92993002
>Had either of them transitioned at the time of shooting Reloaded, though? I thought they did that after.

Doesn't matter. They're both still technically men. They both still have male genitalia. Just a couple of mentally ill guys crossdressing and saying they're women.

>>92993042
I'd pour myself a cup of coffee just so I could spit it out from laughing.

>>92992485
>DC tears of impotent rage
>in a post where he cries tears of impotente rage after Wonder Woman had a bigger opening than Doctor Strange, Logan or Winter Soldier
lmao

>>92992540
I honestly am

>>92992540
I'm not excited but I will see it.
Mostly because my mom likes Tom and she loved both Mummy movies (even though this one has nothing to do with them).

>>92992460
What was the previous record holder when considering only real women?

>>92993118
I don't understand.

>>92992460
Based Patty. I hate the Wachowski trannies.

>>92993128
It starts the monster universe why is that hard to understand?

>>92993128
I am honestly(no memeing, baiting, company waring) excited to see the mummy

>>92993083
Doctor Strange is a literal who, and Logans worldwide opening was bigger than Wonder Womans

>>92993146
can I kissu the mummy ?

>>92993124
50 Shades of Grey

>>92993152
>Doctor Strange
Literally who?

>>92993156
If you want, but make sure to go to the doctor and get checked for curses after you do

>>92993176
that guy with the magic helment

>>92993169
I just looked at the the top worldwide openings list and Fifty Shades of Grey still beat Wonder Woman by about $20 million, yet they're making a huge deal about WW 'Breaking records'

>>92993205
>HuffingtonPost

>>92993192
That's Magneto.

>have live and let live philosophy
>don't care about the Wachowskis being trans
>more annoyed that everyone is focusing on that instead of the fact they're crap filmmakers
I long for the day people are judged on individual merits and nothing else.

Because real talk, these two are really fucking bad at their jobs.

>>92993121
>both
Hey, anon's mom, Dragon Emperor happened whether you like it or not. Yeah, fuck that movie, but still.

>>92993218
No, I think that's Thor

>>92993233
that guy from Thundercats?

>>92993205
Domestic is more impressive for studios because they get a bigger cut than they do in outside markets

>>92993152
>>92993205
These flicks had a wider release (more countries) than WW. Domestic opening is the only thing relevant

>>92992605
To be fair, most who transition get thrown out the window so people who are women inside tend to choose not to transition until this day of age when less women are thrown out of Windows or murder them while at the navy overseas

>>92992639
That's like trans people suing hospitals for not letting them retroactively change their birth certificates, despite vital medical reasons to keep such information on record. Oh wait.

>>92993232
>Dragon Emperor happened whether you like it or not
Not for her.
She has Alzheimer and I'm not showing her Dragon Emperor.

>>92993017
>riddles with no answer.

They're called koans.

>>92992540
kek

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>in its opening weekend Wonder Woman has already made as much as Ghostbusters 2016's entire run on a budget that's nearly the same

Paul Feig and Sony blown the FUCK out.

>>92993214
>Huffingtonpost

What?

>>92992460
It's spelled """(((female)))""" you appeasing cuck faggot.

>>92993342
>Capeshit has a much broader appeal than ghostbusters

No way

>Wonder Woman in one weekend 100M
>Pirates 5 in two weeks 114M
>almost twice the budget
JUST

>>92992540
I might check it out this weekend but I'm not really looking forward to it.

The Dark Universe does sound interesting though.

>>92993369
This m8. Disney is upset that they weren't the only studio this summer to release anything.

And no, Spiderman is released by Sony, who are already failing at promoting it.

>>92993369
I didn't even know Pirates came out what the fuck

>Brothers directed Reloaded
>years and year after Reloaded they have mental disability and pretend to be female
>WB has to now pretend Reloaded was done by 2 females

This is the world we live in.

>>92992460
Can we stop with the special olympics already?

>>92993052
Well the point is, if they hadn't transitioned at the time of filming Reloaded, then its a false claim. No matter how SJWs want to rationalize it, they were men at the time.

>>92992460
are they seriously counting trannys as females, and why even retrospectively count it? They weren't trannys back then

>>92992540
>Arab lady destroys London

Yeah I think it will do well in UKezikstan

>>92993083
Wonder Woman despite being one of
DC's "trinity" member is not exactly a lucrative property that will never match Superman's or Batman's draw power. Her sales are even weak in comics.

Logan (Wolverine) is a super popular X-men member riding on Deadpool's "R rated cape movie" craze that nerds went gaga for.

Dr Strange is the latest installment of a high grossing movie franchise where every decision made was to appeal to chinese box office.

Meanwhile Wonder Woman was the latest installment to a sinking ship of a franchise where the lead was a woman which was would have any investor nervous when they base their data on shit mistakes like Elektra and Catwoman. WW is lucky to make what it has so far.

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>>92993034
>Underpant's RT score is higher than most MCU flicks

>>92992986
I saw that movie for free and still feel like I paid too much.

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>seeing wonder woman
>Not seeing captain underpants

>>92993462
it'll be the BOMB in UK screenings.

>>92993507
>yes, I would like to see that children's movie please.
>Wait, why would are you calling the cops?

>>92992460
Why the fuck are they so desperate to have this movie """Break Records""""? They're literally pretending Reloaded was made by females just to say it broke another one

>>92993525
What the fuck kind of world do you live in?

>>92993525
>not being able to see whatever you want
>living in third world country

>>92993525
>>>/tv/

>>92993552
Because people are retarded and want an amazonian princess from a magic island to serve as an empowerment symbol for women.

>>92993525
>>>/leddit/

>>92993525
Fake, they would send you to the popcorn mines before calling the cops

>all these goyim hating on beautiful Wachowski sisters
OY VEY. Don't be literally nazis. If they think they are women, they are.

>>92993525

You don't belong on /co/

>>92993390
>Spiderman

Does it really count as a female director if they transitioned AFTER the movie's out?

>>92993582
/tv/ would love to be in a screening filled with children.
>>92993553
the one that judges people at face value?
>>92993559
I'm pathetic enough for watching super hero movies in public. Why sink into the abyss further?
>>92993598
>>>/the_donalad/

>>92993664
>Aunt May solo spy movie

>>92993438
Yep neither did till after Speed Racer I believe.

Super Grasping at Straws on this one.

>>92993685
>the one that judges people at face value?
Well, I've got some news for you. That's not how the fucking world works, are you autistic? No self respecting business is going to call the cops on you for trying to give them money, you'd have to be crazy, autistic or both to think that.

>>92993683
NO

As much as I hate the /tv/ bullshit, I have a question to ask the fuckers who care about these stats.

Alright. The Wychowwahaver brothers make the matrix. Then they transition. Then they make 2 and 3 or whatever.

Does the ORIGINAL movie count as being made by women?

And if they detransition later, what does this do to the stats?

>>92992460
yay feminism !

>>92993757
they'll take this film and use it as a cudgel I just know it.

>>92993750
>Does the ORIGINAL movie count as being made by women?
No, it was made by men. That's quite simple.

>>92992460
> highest grossing film by a "female" director

isn't making separate nominations for women a misogyny?

>>92993750
>He doesn't believe in retroactive sex changes
Modern transitions actually involve time machines you know

>>92992460
>Huffpo
>section=us_queer-voices

Guess i shouldn't be surprised.

Watch them get no fucking backlash on this either because you're considered a bigot or a misogynist if you publicly disagree with this shit

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>>92992460
>highest grossing female director
>against Matrix which is made by two men who think they are women

wew lad

>>92993390
>And no, Spiderman is released by Sony, who are already failing at promoting it
Uhh, so you haven't seen the NBA Finals exclusive clips which play during the games or all the commercials that run on the kid channels or the wall of new Spidey toys that puts Wondy's toy options to shame by a factor of 10?

>>92993369
Pirates has been dropping in the US for years. It's worldwide sales they care about and it is making a healthy profit for Disney

>>92993446
>>92992469
>>92992653
>>92992674
Why are you so bigoted?

>>92993552
Deadline's hack writer leg with "Wonder Woman stomps Iron Man" and "powerful long legs carrying it throughout the summer"

>they hadn't even transitioned but retroactively got the record

How fucking unfair is that

>>92994083
>barely over 500M worlwide after two weeks
J U S T
U
S
T

More and more often I see trannybashing threads on /co/

Can't you just let me read about comics and cartoons in peace?

>>92994109
Bruce Jenner is now considered the top female Olympian ever.

>>92994109
>Decent male athlete transitions
>Instantly smashes swathes of female sporting records

>>92992540
I already watched X-Men Apocalypse. Plot looks pretty much the same.

>>92994121
>http://deadline.com/2017/05/pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-men-tell-no-tales-1202104307/

>>92992460
How did Wonder Woman do in Israel? considering her history and all over there.

I'd do alot of shit for my brother, but damn.

>>92992460
Okay, it was fine when it was "highest grossing opening for a female director" because that's true and probably something that's newsworthy, but now this is getting to Ghostbusters level of "LOOK AT THIS ACHIEVEMENT"

>>92994131
>>92994129
Stop. You're making me want to become a tranny so I could troll women ala Andy Kaufman.

>>92993369
Yeah but Pirates 4 wasn't too well-recieved here either. What gave it that 1B was the worldwide market

>>92993489
85% is right around in the middle where most MCU flicks end up though

I believe that the movie is good (will see it today), but the amount of virtue signaling about it is staggering. Someone is really determined to make it some sort of cultural phenomenon, which it's not.

>>92994127
No.
If you really wanted to do it in peace, you woudln't come here.
Fuck off, faggot.

>>92994267
>which it's not.

But there are vaginas, anon. Vaginas!

>>92994186
I think you missed the punchline

>>92994129
If Bruce is considered a female olympian, then we might as well allow all women competitors to load up on Testosterone.

Here's the thing, Bruce no longer exists.
Caitlyn has never competed in the olympics.

The Wachowski Brothers made the Matrix.

We cannot rewrite history to fit whatever narrative happens to be popular at the moment.

>>92993489
this pic would be a great add to the safleck one

>>92994682
>We cannot rewrite history to fit whatever narrative happens to be popular at the moment.

Welcome to postmodernism.

>>92994717
>"G-Gadot is one of us marvel guys laughing at sadfleck lol!"

give it a rest will you mouse cucks?

>>92993489
>laughing Gadot laughs at Evan's tiny penis.

>>92994763
we'll give it a rest when it stops being a MCU ripoff

so never

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>>92992460
The fuggggg. They where men at the time. The whole point of the "girls" only club for records is that men usually have an advantage (Sports being the big one) and the Wachowskis made the Matrix Reloaded with all the advantages of being men.

Fuggin' Huff post.

>>92994788
Can't be a ripoff. It was actually good.

>>92993470
>sinking ship of a franchise
A franchise that had already grossed over 2 billion with its first three movies is called a sinking ship?

>/polco/ actually thinks the fucking huffingtonpost is the authority that determines box office records

>>92992526
Their father must be so proud that he has no sons anymore.

>>92994819
Oh i didn't mean to sound like the movies weren't turning a profit, but I think they were underperforming in my opinion. I imagine those movies would make 2 billion if they had good press.

>>92992540
It looks like Mummy 99
For once I'd like a new Mummy movie that's actually a horror movie

>>92992540
It seems fun, plus can not go wrong with Cruise. Who knows, it might be as good as Edge of Tomorrow.

>>92992540
>>92994894
>>92993374
So are all the monsters going to team up?

>>92994882
I think if WW came before BvS and BvS had ridden off the WW hype as opposed to just MoS it would been a 1B dollar movie or at least much closer. BvS came too early.

>>92994823
>/polco/
Make up your mind, shitposters. Are we /pol/ or are we tumblr?

>>92994914
It's probably for the best it had released when it did. My friend was all "I'm giving up DCEU if this shit sucks as well."

>>92992460
I'm more interested in how it preforms compared to industry expectations

>>92992469
exactly. Otherwise, Bruce Jenner's got to be one of the fastest Olympic women.

>>92995296
that needs to be a news article

>>92992540
Always been a Tom Cruise fan. I'm watching it opening day.

>>92995035

It made half as less as Guardians of Galaxy 2 on opening, so problem is going to become it goes from getting past being directed/led by women to having to compete with male films and while it will do great for a female lead flick, unless it does better in its second week than the first, it won't even reach Gotg 2's numbers and it's having trouble hitting 900 mil.

>>92992660
I'm fucking losing it

>>92992540
It looks pretty good, and when you look at Tom Cruise' movie record it will probably be overall pretty enjoyable. The dude isn't really in bad movies.

>>92992485
Stay hurt, Marvelfriend!

>>92992485
>I can't wait for the Mummy to crush this when it gets that MASSIVE drop all DC movies get

Remember when MCUfags were saying this about Suicide Squad?

Remember when it didn't happen?

Yeah...

>>92992540
Cruise has a surprisingly resilient fanbase.

>>92993083
The opening wasn't better than Logan. That one opened worldwide with $247million, WW got to 223

>>92993552
There's this thing they call "glass ceilings" supposedly holding women back, so they're reporting about how this womam led and made movie is breaking them

But clickbait articles about movie breaking X record are standard, they're quick to generate buzz and thus money. BvS was cheered as the best March post-easter opening or something

>>92995520
Different countries for those openings, WW hasn't opened in half of Europe.

>>92992460
but sense8 is good

>>92992460
Sense8? Is that the show everyone was freaking out about because it was cancelled? What was the deal there

>>92993144
I'll think I'll wait for The inevitabile avengersesque crossover.

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>>92992820
"The Mummy" is Tom Cruise's superhero movie. He's got superpowers and everything.

>>92995781
the deal was that it was an amazing show if you could get past the trans wet dildo and icecream kissing bottleneck (a lot of people got triggered and dropped it after those 2 things)

>>92992460
>Jupiter Rising
I have absolutely no idea why that even exists.

>>92994894
>modern horror movie
I have a feeling I'm not gonna enjoy it.

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>>92992485

>>92993192
Elmer Fudd?

>>92993525
It helps to wear pants.

>>92995938
Wish I'd known that before landing myself in court.

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>>92993525
Thanks for demonstrating that profiling works

>>92995362
Nobody expected it to do GOTG 2 money though.

>>92992485
They showed the trailer for The Mummy before WW. Without the original sounds, it's one of the most underwhelming trailers I've seen lately.

>>92993034
The saddest thing is that it's not even MCU fans the ones that are more anti-WW, but anti-feminist/MRA butthurt faggots. They put as much weight in this movie as feminists do, and at the end of the day, it's just a superhero film that stars a woman, and nothing else.

>>92994914
Well, that's what you get when you give the reins of a franchiste to a guy with a terrible box office and critical record.

It'll definitely be interesting to see what legs this has, ultimately I don't see this movie doing too much in the long run, however I do think it'll set up a great box office for the sequel. Problem is that the character and past DCEU films may have sullied any obligatory mass turn out, but who can say. Congrats to DC all the same for finally getting it right.

>>92992485
This has to be false flagging, notice the utter lack of butthurt from anyone anywhere else in this thread. Most MCU fans like myself are happy that DCEU finally has a good movie and hope that more will follow to keep Marvel Studios from becoming complacent.

This movie could have a massive drop, but I seriously doubt it, this isn't some trainwreck of a movie like the last three, it's actually MCU level passable. Legs might be weak due to competition in theaters but I really doubt we'll see any sharp drop.

>>92992779
And probably only got the reviews it did because of Hollywood's progressive lean, but it's still a good movie and deserves to be celebrated for all the DCEU fans have had to sit through in the theaters up to this point.

Then again blaming the RT score on "lol hollywood" isn't really fair either since freshness typically translates to something either being a pleasant surprise (ergo why most sequels don't do as well unless they re-invent the franchise).

>>92992540
A handful of manchildren that want to show women who's in charge.

>>92996749
>Congrats to DC all the same for finally getting it right.
This. It would be fine if it is a commercial success, in case this works to make future movies like this instead of Snyder's but ultimately, I'm just happy the movie was good. If it does bad, that sucks but it won't hurt the movie itself so who cares. For instance, I'm happy they made Dredd the way it is, even if we never got a sequel.

>>92996489

So its going to settle into the middle of the pack but because it didn't fall flat on its face, it's considered 'historic?'

reality warping like this is how empires fell. Where people lie against obviousness of what is actually going on. Distortion.

>>92996857
Fuck yeah conservabro. Tell those SHITSKINS how it goes.

>>92995499
MCUcks are fucking retarded.

>>92996932
go back

>>92996857
I never talked about it being historic or anything like that. It was never projected by anybody to make more than GOTG 2. If some hyperbolic feminist wants to make this movie some sort of game changer, take it up to her. I'm just stating the facts. Setting some unrealistic goals for it doesn't help either.

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No other MCU slut is as cute as WW though

>>92993270
You can always go to the Middle East and watch them behead a tranny.

>>92993034
>>92993489
That's some grade-A project there friend. Yes, while there are some outspoken DCEU haters (probably false-flaggers for the most part) people who like the MCU typically aren't exclusivists or as embittered/immature as the small handful of outspoken DCEU trolls who will attack anything MCU related while preaching from the gospel at BvS is the greatest cape film ever. The laughing Evans meme only persists till this day because it's the most adequate response to one of these dellusionists at a certain point.

No one is making threads about how Thor 1 will someday be heralded as the next Blade Runner or how Norton's Hulk is the best Cape film ever and that audiences were just burn't out from Ang Lee's hulk.

Yeah, it's fun to poke fun at the DCEU from the outside when it deserves it, but ultimately no one's identity here is so caught up in the success or failure of the MCU that they feel the need to treat it like a religion or political party or flat out deny reality. The MCU has already proven itself and for all it's shortcomings had numerous great movies so it's no surprise people aren't as childishly invested in it as the vocal minority who've made DCEU defending a headache for /co/ up to this point.

Yeah people were shocked and skeptical about WW when they saw the RT score at first, but everyone's settled down and giving the film the due it deserves meanwhile the MCU still pumps out good stuff and still gets shit on by trolls.

>>92996932
/pol/ ----->

Sorry friend, but shock value still doesn't make you as loathesome as /tv/.

>>92996952
To be fair, if it wasn't for teenage girls and hot topic there's no reason to think a movie as utterly awful as Suicide Squad would make any kind of money. And even then I wouldn't brag about the commercial success of a film that no one liked. I don't see anyone touting Jurassic World because it made money.

>>92996972
When it comes to sluts, none are cuter than Captain America.

>>92992460
It seems that men were better at being female directors than women, until now.

>>92997047
>dat tome
jesus.

>>92997090
You're browsing a thread made up of largely nothing but text, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. I mean this whole thread is literally just one wall of text.

>>92993685
You're really dumb

>>92997118
>>92997047
>name fagging

>>92995801
Its Universals lead into their Movie Monster universe. Russell Crowe is playing Jekyll and Hyde.

>>92997031
I think Iran actually pays gay people to cut off their Johnson.

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>>92997047
That would be cool if it wasn't for the fact that this same board was literally invaded by marvelfags just a week ago making fun of Snyder's daughter and shit like that

>t-they were false flaggers
They aren't. And it's a good thing that they were compLEtely BTFO. /co/ being absolutely decimated by Wonder Woman is the best thing to happen to this board since Suicide Squad won more oscars than the entire MCU. The movies are fine, but the fanbase is absolute cancer

>>92997147
thanks for the (you)

>>92992460
>Jupiter Rising
>Bad
fuck off

>>92997187
>giving up on the argument

how embarrassing

>>92997179
So, are they progressive because they encourage transitions, or regressive because they mutilate homos?

>>92997217
That shit was awful, fuck off

>>92997221
>caring about an argument from a post 4 hours ago
pathetic

>>92997303
>not being able to refute yourself when called out on it

sad!

then again, you were cringed out by the captain underpants movie, so if your resolve isnt that strong, I understand

>>92996972
I dig the lasso

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>>92997186
Again, hyperbole and misdirection is your tool of choice. You're the kind of fanboy who would let the DCEU take a shit in your mouth if a MCU fan had to smell it.

People who like the MCU aren't as invested in it as those who insist Snyder is the Kino God of cape films so there's no need for denial or name calling when the DCEU finally makes a good movie. And quite honestly there's no reason to think the very few individuals making fun of Snyder's unfortunate situation with his daughter were on one side or the other.

Given your language and namecalling it's plain to see you're one of the immature totallists who've latched onto the DCEU bandwagon as an extension of his own identity and will fiercely defend it at all costs claiming any movie the MCU makes is awful while touting even the worst of DCEU's offerings with the most trivially obscure or cherry picked factoids.

Even if the DCEU continues to get good movies (and it's very unlikely Justice League will be one of them) people like you will still be the same broken and contrarian trolls seeking to skew facts and pick fights. You'll never be happy with what you have, even this movie Wonder Woman isn't what you want from a DC movie and any future success you'll see from any DCEU films is by them following the footsteps of the MCU movies you claim to so utterly hate. Films like MoS and BvS which you've spent so many hours of your life defending online will always be remembered as the eye sore of their respective cinematic universe meanwhile being forced to defend more successful DCEU films over things like Oscars and RT scores despite you not even liking the movie itself.

You're damned and deservingly so. Misery is its own reward for such contrarianism.

>>92997391
>still hung up about me not giving a shit to defend myself over a post too old for to me care.
autism.

>>92997518
>knowingly lacks the strength to do so and falls back on namecalling

guffaw

>>92992466
They were.

They're transvestites now.

>>92994854
Compared to your dad, whose son is currently browsing 4chan, I take it?

>>92992728
Brendan Fraser as Maxwell Lord

>>92997217
It was so bad they changed the name

>>92997558
>still upset
pitiful

>>92997707
>still namecalling

it's commendable you continue even when your vocabulary is so limited

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This is the dumbest shit. This is. The dumbest. Shit. This is fucking stupid.

How the fuck are people convinced that BY FUCKING "COINCIDENCE", 2 brothers at the same time, see themselves as fuckin' female ALL ALONG, and haha get this, they're also super-successful movie directors.

You can't fuckin make this shit up, because this is the flimsiest story ever. How the hell can people just accept this without garnering any suspicion for their actions? They just do because #lovewins and all that bullshit? Come the fuck on.

This shit reeks of bandwagoning to the fucking hot topic that is "transgenderification". This is Emperor's New Clothes-tier of voluntary blindness.

AND BECAUSE THEY "TRANSITIONED", THEIR PAST BOX OFFICE SUCCESSES NOW BECOME ELIGIBLE TO CONTEND FOR BIGGEST FEMALE DIRECTOR'S MOVIE OPENINGS?

Humanity fucking SUCKS.

>>92994854
their both jewish

>>92997726
>perpetually upset that I won't go see Captain Underpants
Very concerning.

>>92997876
it's more like you think someone is a pedofile for watching a movie like that or wallace and grommit

it makes me think of a ledditor that got lost down the line

>>92997505
Nah kid, I'm not reading all that because I can see you're wrong in the first two sentences. You seem pretty buttpained over people liking movies you don't like for a guy who isn't "invested" in one franchise or the other

The fact remains the same: just a week ago dozens of people were getting their Drax and Evans memes ready and now they have to eat them up. Look at how the narrative has changed in a few days. First it was going to get crushed by critics but then critics liked it at Iron Man levels. That's a lot of Evans memes down the drain, but they kept going. They said it was because of feminism but the audience scores came in and the movie was better liked than GotG2. Then they said it was going to flop and now it's doing better than is making more money than Winter Soldier and Doctor Strange on less budget. And now the last resort is this half assed neutral "u mad" nonsense you're posting.

Taste is subjective and that's all there is to that. Being this proud that some bland toy commercial is "objectively" better than other is as childish as it gets

>>92997759
you're saying that 2 brothers mutilated their own genitals for virtue signaling?

>>92998274
>mutilated their own genitals
they haven't

>>92997759
if you ask me, i think it's ploy to get publishers to agree to fund your film. Wachowski isn't a jewish name. & there would be hell fire if a motion picture distributor didn't fund a tran's identified man's pet film project or 2.

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>>92998131
Took you an awful long time not to read all that, can't help but think you're maybe dodging the points presented knowing full well I'm right.

Once again deflection is your tool of choice using this opportunity as little more than an excuse for exposition for you to whine about Drax and Evan memes.

How does it make you feel to know that no amount of words you type online will ever make the DCEU what you want it to be? That the only successes the DCEU has are by being more like the MCU and that films like MoS and BvS, which you had so desperately hoped to be the tone of this cinematic universe, have been universally rejected by the audiences, critics, fans and the movie studios themselves.

But you'll continue to play your part, propping up movies you don't really like because they're part of something you've made into your "us vs them" identity, filling threads with arbitrary rhetoric because you think you're still fooling some invisible third party audience knowing full well that you and the person you're arguing with both know you're full of shit. But keep on projecting, don't let those mental gymnastics fail you now, because there might still be someone somewhere reading this thread that might believe your spin, or at least you hope so. It would be a shame if the only person you had any chance of convincing was yourself.

>>92998274
They're autogynephile transbians both married to women.

>>92998430
>That the only successes the DCEU has are by being more like the MCU
can't be. The action in Wonder Woman didn't have 8 cuts for one punch with camera zooms and quips being dropped every few minutes

>>92998430
But I already have MoS and BvS, why would I want 15 more rehashes of those moives? Just because Marvel did that with Iron Man doesn't mean that I want that for DC. They are still hiring real directors with their own styles and the movies they have already made don't look like each other at all. Now they have made a movie completely different to the other DC and MCU movies and it's being well received. Some of them will hit with the critics and some won't, art is like that. Art is like that, hence the oscar winning

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>>92998440
>They're autogynephile transbians
Are you just making those terms up?

>>92998598
No, I learned them from /lgbt/. Women fetishists. The signs were there with Bound.

>>92998598
Welcome to 2017
where the words don't matter and tumblr-rooted ideas are present irl

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>>92998549
WW isn't a spy/thriller themed film like Winter Soldier and Civil War so it's not surprising the cinematography would be different. And really the action sequences in WW aren't anything to crow about so let's be careful what stones we throw from our glass houses, yes?

>>92998588
> b-b-b-but muh Oscars

If you're really so content with MoS and BvS why do you feel the need to constantly defend them or justify them when virtually every metric and standard denounces them? Furthermore why does a movie have to be a rehash of MoS or BvS to be good? Was BvS a rehash of MoS? Are you saying they couldn't do more movies in the tone of those two movies while still being different? Now you're just making excuses and at this point trying to pretend you're okay with the DCEU only succeeding by copying what Marvel has been doing right (and who can blame them).

Art is like that, hence the MCU being beloved by everyone and why DCEU movies that are more like the MCU are liked too.

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>>92997588

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>>92992540
>excited to see the Mummy?
very excited...OH, you mean the movie, meh.

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>>92998774
>WW isn't a spy/thriller themed film like Winter Soldier
>And really the action sequences in WW aren't anything to crow
More than I can say for TWS.

>>92998774
You're the first guy in this thread to mention MoS or BvS, for literally no reason. I haven't defended them other than saying that I like them and that taste is subjective. Also both MoS or BvS made more money than WW so I think this "success" you're talking about is just more buttpain coming from the fact that DC just made a movie you thought it was going to flop or not be critically well received. Movies don't have to be rehashes of BvS to be good, WW is good and it isn't. I'm saying they don't do rehashes like Marvel does

Art is like that but Marvel isn't art and that's why they are laughed out of the room everytime they present their most recent Iron Man template flick to the Academy and haven't come close to Nolan after 15 movies

>>92993553
one where the left hates men. I took my niece to the park once and 2 women called the cops on me because when they asked "is that your daddy" my niece said no so they assumed I was a kidnapping pedo

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>>92999039
You're right, the action sequences in Winter Soldier and Civil War were actually pretty amazing.

>>92999065
Again you project. I am happy WW is a good movie, if DCEU kept making bad movies it could tank the market and would leave the MCU complacent and without any motivation to better itself outside of it's relatively safe formula.

And as for Art? Laughed out of the room by whom exactly? The same people who gave Skwad an Oscar but not MoS or BvS who were also laughed at? This one metric that seems to only matter when defending Skwad, but no other DCEU film, a metric you choose while arbitrarily discounting others like RT and the movie going audiences? Is Art something that only exists when it suits your needs for the sake of that argument? You can't even make a coherent argument without defaulting on a meme that didn't even exist before Dr. Strange came out. And bringing up Nolan how close has the DCEU come to Nolan because it seems they're going more in the direction of the MCU that you so loathe rather than the Dark Knight trilogy. The Nolan movies seemed alot better received than anything Snyder put out.

Art indeed my friend.

>>92999296
>You're right, the action sequences in Winter Soldier and Civil War were actually pretty amazing.
There was more edit cuts in those fist fights than early GoT episodes and that one fight in Cat Woman. "amazing" my taint

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>>92999330
Tell it to all the movie goers, critics and comic book fans who loved the films. But I guess they just don't get art.

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>>92998925
this

>>92992485
>insanely specific and niche records are back

It's literally "biggest female directed film" ... there's nothing niche about that at all.

>>92999410
Shills don't count as people.

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>>92999463
Oh, of course, anyone who doesn't conform to your version of reality is clearly a shill. Bet you think Gang Stalking is real too.

>>92999296
>You can't even make a coherent argument
You seem to be pretty stupid, my friend. I will present the argument in a MCU fanboy friendly way so you can understand it:
>DC takes artistic risks, some of them pay off with critics and some of them don't
>DCEU has zero flops and one oscar so far
>DC hires directors with unique styles so their movies don't look like each other
>Marvel movies are fine but they have done the same movie a good 10 times already
>the quips alone make the argument of these movies being not "decent", or "competent" or "fun" or whatever bland euphemism you want to use but straight up bad movies, but critics like them so hey, that's that
>after 15 movies Marvel has never won an oscar
>after FIFTEEN movies, they can't even win a make up oscar
>fifteen movies
>zero oscars
>WW is not really that much like Marvel either, the visuals look more like Snyder than what I saw of Justice League

So yeah, the franchise you're so emotionally invested with just make toy commercials that are forgotten ten minutes after leaving the theater. Art is like that, Marvel is something else

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>>92999410
>Tell it to all the movie goers
I tried this but most of the time they said they've forgotten about it.(like most MCU installments). Marvel movies have the longevity of a toy that gets discarded a more new shinier toy is on display.

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>>92999296
Damn these are very interesting thoughts, anon. You don't seem upset or anything

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>>92999410
Sometimes they do, sometimes they do

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>>92999563
> DC takes artistic risks, some of them pay off with critics and some of them don't

You mean like the Incredible Hulk, Thor 2, Guardians of the Galaxy & Winter Soldier?

> DCEU has zero flops and one oscar so far

The MCU has zero flops too and the only movie in the DCEU that has an Oscar is one even you won't defend as good and even then it was only for make-up.

> DC hires directors with unique styles so their movies don't look like each other

So does Marvel, all the memeing and accusations otherwise doesn't change the fact.

> Marvel movies are fine but they have done the same movie a good 10 times already

Not really, you could argue Iron Man, it's sequels, Antman and Dr. Strange fall into this category but literally every other film in the MCU is different within their respective character franchises.

>the quips alone make the argument of these movies being not "decent", or "competent" or "fun" or whatever bland euphemism you want to use but straight up bad movies, but critics like them so hey, that's that
>after 15 movies Marvel has never won an oscar
>after FIFTEEN movies, they can't even win a make up oscar
>fifteen movies
>zero oscars

Yet the DCEU has quips now too so I don't really see your point. And you claim the MCU has bad movies, but people pretend they aren't because critics praise them then turn around and try to use an Oscar for a superfluous cinematic element as proof that the other movies are doing something right?

> WW is not really that much like Marvel either, the visuals look more like Snyder than what I saw of Justice League

As does Thor Ragnarok, what an age to live in huh?

>>92999699
Well it would also require you to venture outside or actually watch any of the MCU films beyond phase 1.

>>92999743
I wonder if you gave such consideration to Oscars before the DCEU had one, it's seems to really be your only argument at this point. I'm surprised you're not bragging about the DCEU having more Razzies than the MCU too.

>>92997759
They fell in with ketamine-addict BDSM Hollywood freaks. I'm not memeing, look up Mistress Strix.

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>>92999856
But only when it suits your argument correct? Otherwise it doesn't count.

Even then, no one is denying Wonder Woman is a good movie and I think it was certainly more of a pleasant surprise than Guardians 2. Even so, both films have great ratings, reviews and audience reception so I don't see any reason to be disappointed with either.

After all, if you can be content with BvS having a 27% score I think I can live with the flawed but enjoyable GotG2 have a score 11 points lower than Wonder Woman.

Though had the roles been reversed I'm sure you'd be claiming that GotG making more money is more important than being well reviewed. You know, like you do with Squad.

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>>92999563
> WB doesn't pay off critics

They're literally the only one of the two studios with documented evidence of bribing critics.

I want everyone to realize, just so we're 100% clear, that movies are all Marvel has left. You don't see this kind of buttblasted fervent 5 paragraph defense anywhere but threads discussing the MCU. In every other medium- especially comics- Marvel is trash as any person who's actually read their material since 2006 will verify.

>>92992605
You appear to have made a mistake, anon. despite both having an o, you meant to type /pol/, not /co/. innocent mistake to make!

>>93000000

>>92999989
>video games = movies
bribery for good reviews is like one of the worst kept secrets of the hobby. Even cheap indie devs would pay Pewdiepie and his ilk plus the free game if it means it would increase purchases.

>>92999962
>After all, if you can be content with BvS having a 27% score
Oh please like you faggots haven't screamed conspiracy for Iron Fist. That day proved you all can shriek "conspiracy!" as good as the rest of them.

>>92992779

let's get this shit straight.

Most super hero movies are mediocre at best. so when you have an above average movie, as a super hero movie, featuring the most widely known female superhero in the world, you have a thing that will do well.

>>93000091
>comparing a TV show about literally who to a movie starring the biggest two characters in the American canon
Does that make you feel better?

>>92999860
>You mean like the Incredible Hulk, Thor 2, Guardians of the Galaxy & Winter Soldier?
No, I meant real ones.

>The MCU has zero flops too
Look again sweetie

>only movie in the DCEU that has an Oscar is one even you won't defend as good and even then it was only for make-up.
Yet more oscars than Marvel. You're making it worse, anon

>So does Marvel, all the memeing and accusations otherwise doesn't change the fact.
Nah.

>Not really,
NAH

>Yet the DCEU has quips now too so I don't really see your point.
They always had quips. MoS and BvS had quips too. Marvel's trademark is to ruin the movies with them

>And you claim the MCU has bad movies, but people pretend they aren't because critics praise them then turn around and try to use an Oscar for a superfluous cinematic element as proof that the other movies are doing something right?
No, people genuinely like these movies just like they like Big Bang Theory or Transformers. They are still bad movies and the fact that after 15 (fifteen movies) they can't win anything is just another proof. It's not that Suicide Squad is good, the point is that after 15 movies being still oscar virgin is embarrassing. It's not only the DCEU, Raimi won, Burton won, Nolan won, fuck I think even the X-Men has won over something over the years. It's really not that hard, if you don't make bad movies that is

>As does Thor Ragnarok, what an age to live in huh?
Derrickson praised Snyder too, the guy who did Daredevil season 1 (aka the only good one) did too, and many others. These guys know their references. As I said, they truly bad BAD thing about the MCU is its fanbase. Decent movies ruined by overuse of comedic relief and atrocious action scenes is something I could live with. I enjoy them, but I realize they just aren't good

>>92999563
>DCEU has zero flops
The makeup Oscar doesn't suddenly make up for how garbage SS was. I guarantee the studio would rather have a well-received billion dollar movie than $750m plus a makeup Oscar.

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>>92999997
Except no one really needs to defend the MCU, it stands on its own. Sure maybe someone like myself will make a long winded post poking fun at one of the delusional Snyder apologists, but beyond that if a MCU movie is bad (Iron Man 2, Thor 2, Age of Ultron) people have no problem admitting it. You see, Marvel isn't anyone's political party or vested cathartic sense of self worth like it is for the people who defend Snyder. Same with the comics, the comics suck, they suck, no one needs Marvel to be the best Comic book company for them to be able to get out of bed in the morning, they may have their preference for Marvel characters, but that doesn't mean they're obliged to skew reality like you are to suit their interests.

>>93000042
Then by all means provide some evidence that Disney is bribing critics.

>>93000091
> you faggots

You seem to be of the misguided dellusion that there is some collective hive mind you're railing against. Only a relative few people cried bullshit about Iron Fist and that wasn't because of the low score, but because critics were crying white washing despite that being the whole point of the character. Even then no one really cares about TV critic reviews, particularly on RT, even when they're favorable of a show they like, because they know there's no consistency to it.

Stop trying to project your own fervent fanboyism and hypocritical insecurity onto others.

>>93000224
Still not a flop

>>92999743
>he thinks it's bragging to say the DCEU is literally the same as nuTrek

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>>92992466
Here we go.

>>92993991
I'm just trying to figure out the ground rules, not cause a TIME PARADOX.

>>92999989
>videogames
lol

>>93000266

nice dubs.

i can almost guarantee you that they are trans-lesbians.

>>93000260
Sure, but a one-off financial success isn't nearly as desireable as a financial AND critical success that launches a franchise.

MCU hasn't had any flops either, and they've had several movies go far beyond simple success.

>>93000240
>pic
Disney doesn't have to own the boxing stadium to fix the match.

>Then by all means provide some evidence that Disney is bribing critics.
you're asking me to provide proof of Disney bribing positive video game reviews?

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>>93000184
> no, I meant real ones

So examples don't count, just because?

> look again sweeite

I did, and every MCU movie made it's money back and earned decent bank.

> Nah.

Yah

> Nah

Yah

> They always had quips. MoS and BvS had quips too. Marvel's trademark is to ruin the movies with them

Says who? You the lonely malcontent or the millions who go to see the MCU films making them wild successes? Looking through all your arguments you're constantly flip-flopping over what measures of success count. Oscar counts here, but not there. Popular reception counts here, but not there. Rotten Tomatoes, Box office bank, etc.

> No, people genuinely like these movies just like they like Big Bang Theory or Transformers. They are still bad movies and the fact that after 15 (fifteen movies) they can't win anything is just another proof. It's not that Suicide Squad is good, the point is that after 15 movies being still oscar virgin is embarrassing. It's not only the DCEU, Raimi won, Burton won, Nolan won, fuck I think even the X-Men has won over something over the years. It's really not that hard, if you don't make bad movies that is

Yet you can't offer a single consistent metric to show they're bad, just you stomping your feet and shouting at the top of your lungs.

> Derrickson praised Snyder too, the guy who did Daredevil season 1 (aka the only good one) did too, and many others. These guys know their references. As I said, they truly bad BAD thing about the MCU is its fanbase. Decent movies ruined by overuse of comedic relief and atrocious action scenes is something I could live with. I enjoy them, but I realize they just aren't good

Daredevil Season 2 was also good, so was the first half of Luke Cage. You seem to be under the impression that MCU's fanbase is some kind of cancerous conspiracy when it's really just everyone laughing at anyone who defends the crummy Snyder flicks. Even then I'm pretty sure Derrickson was praising Snyder's less shitty pre-DCEU works.

>>93000347
They have 4 "one-off" financial successes so far, so I think the franchise may be launched already,

>MCU hasn't had any flops either,
Sorry I didn't remember you guys pretend Incredible Hulk and TFA don't exist now

>>93000240
>Only a relative few people cried bullshit about Iron Fist and that wasn't because of the low score, but because critics were crying white washing despite that being the whole point of the character.

>muh sjws!
Now you're starting to sound like "them"

>>93000390
Any evidence at all that anyone bribes movies critics would be swell. If not then your argument is about as sound as those who think random strangers on the street are stalking them because they wear red shirts.

>>92999989
they paid pewdiepie to play the game because he has some sway with dumb kids. That dumbass swede can revive a dead game's multiplayer community with his blind followers. Did some mad pvp on Dark Souls.

>>93000240
>Except no one really needs to defend the MCU,
>goes on to write a paragraph
Jeez alright dude whatever you say, I can tell that people who defend the DCEU over the MCU have blasted your rectum wide open

>>93000442
The Incredible Hulk is their only movie so far with no sequel or announced sequel. And part of that is the rights situation, but you're right - it underperformed compared to the rest.

>TIH
Not a flop.

>TFA
Not a flop either. It made more than double its budget, and it spawned 2 sequels. How the fuck is that a flop?

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>>93000442
Both MoS and BvS were financial disappointments according to the WB and if you look at their cost to return ratio I think that would be made more than clear. So far Skwad is the only financial win for the DCEU and Wonder Woman remains yet to be seen though I'm sure it will be a modest success.

Incredible Hulk made it's money back and then some as did Cap 1, both movies turned a profit, probably even had a better IPA than BvS I'd imagine. By your definition both movies are successes, at least certainly more so than Snyder's work in the DCEU.

>>93000451
Not an argument.

>>92992811

It's fucking HUFF PO.

Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, The New York Times and LA Times, literally every place that genuinely matters and is read by people in the industry, already said it surpassed the previous record, e.g. Sam Taylor Jones (AoU Pietro's cougar) $80M for 50 Shades.

>>93000586
Explain one thing to me: Why'd you post that gif?

>>93000583
My bad, I forgot about Doctor Strange. He doesn't have a sequel yet either.

>>93000586
>financial disappointments
Not flops though

>Incredible Hulk made it's money back and then some as did Cap 1
They didn't. These movies need to make three times the budget to cover the marketing and the distribution. Both flopped

>>93000586
>Both MoS and BvS were financial disappointments
>"WB needs 7 centillion dollars to break even!"

>>93000662
>These movies need to make 3x their budget or they're flops
>BvS didn't make 3x its budget
Congratulations, you played yourself.

>>93000608
Because as everybody who has been reading this threads knows since 50 posts ago, the guy is a anally deteriorated MCUck. He was evanposting a few posts ago

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>>93000567
Am I defending the MCU?

Really it just seems more like poking holes in your irrational arguments than actually defending anything.

I'm not claiming any MCU movie is under appreciated or unjustly spurned by the industry, movie goers or critics, simply just calling out your cherry picked hypocrisy and flip-flopping.

>>93000662
If they're flops then so are MoS and BvS, you can't arbitrarily label one set of movies that do okay vs another set that do okay and verify one flopped and one didn't.

>>93000673
Prove me wrong.

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>>93000662
BvS and MoS didn't make three times their budgets either.

>>93000700
>250 x 3 = 750
>BvS made 870M
Really makes you think

>>93000713
>If they're flops then so are MoS and BvS
Not really, no.

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>>93000662
Why don't you post the economic data for said movies and let the facts speak for themselves because I got a feeling you aren't.

>>93000713
>irrational arguments
I mean, judging by that image you can't even watch a movie correctly so I wouldn't consider you to be any kind of reliable arbitrator

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>>93000662
>>93000751
>They didn't. These movies need to make three times the budget to cover the marketing and the distribution. Both flopped
BvS on the left, MoS on the right.

>300 x 3 = 900
>900 > 870

>225 x 3 = 675
>675 > 668

Sorry anon, but you're retarded.

For the record, this "needs 3x to break even" is fucking retarded and it's not true. But it's YOUR metric, so half the DCEU is officially flops according to your rules.

>>93000713
>Prove me wrong.
the fact that DCEU is a existing franchise whereas it would've been long abandoned if they were commercial failures. It would've ended with SS if it were the case. You're abysmally retarded.

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>>93000751
Still waiting for some hard evidence.

>>93000779
No, I imagine YOU wouldn't.

>>93000770
Sure.

>TFA budget: 140M
>WW gross: $370,569,774
Veredict: FLOPPENING

>TIH budget: 150M
>WW gross: $263,427,551
Veredict: bomb on, bomb on, you crazy diamond

>>93000586
>financial disappointments according to the WB

“2016 was a great year for us, and Greg has been a big part of that—from the launch of our DC film universe with “Batman v Superman” and “Suicide Squad,” to helping realize the next franchise in J.K. Rowling’s Wizarding World, expanding the Warner Animation Group brand, and developing mid-budget hits like ‘Sully’ and ‘The Accountant,’” said Kevin Tsujihara, Chairman and CEO, Warner Bros.

During his tenure at Warner Bros., Silverman worked on a number of the Studio’s most popular and profitable titles, including “The Dark Knight” trilogy, “The Hangover” trilogy, “Inception,” “Interstellar,” and the revitalized DC franchise titles “Man of Steel,” “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,” “Suicide Squad” and next year’s “Wonder Woman.”

Warner Brother's had more revenue in 2016, it's just that Disney had more profits (more thanks to Rogue One).

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/Meena/StudioProfitability2016.jpg

MoS was profitable from the first DVD sold. BvS theatrically made WB, "The bottom line was that Warner Bros made a net profit of $105.7 million, and a respectable Cash on Cash Return of 1.18."

It's totally fair to say that BvS should have made more. MoS had the same problem that Batman Begins had, in fact people forget that Batman Begins made LESS than Superman Returns.

If BvS were a true sequel to MoS, the returns would be totally fine. The problem was in the decisions that were made, and the expectations, etc., etc. (there's no need to rehash it) but WB (other than the same Hollywood Accounting that Disney also uses) is not going around calling BvS a 'financial disappointment.'

>>93000866
>no you
You really got him there my dude.

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>>93000859
Then wouldn't that same argument apply to Captain America and the Incredible Hulk as well?

Really the only reason they continued with the DCEU after MoS and BvS was because the wheels were already in motion and those Avengers buckeroos were beckoning them.

>>93000813
>using the gross budget
lol

MoS didn't make it though, that's my bad. Still not that much of a flop as TIH and TFA

>>93000859
Disappointment =/= Failure

No one said the DCEU isn't making money. But you're fully delusional if you think WB didn't expect to make a billion dollars with BvS, especially considering they had done it just four years sooner with Batman alone, and Disney has managed to do it with Iron Man.

>>93000920
>Then wouldn't that same argument apply to Captain America and the Incredible Hulk as well?

I never claimed they were flops.

>>93000884
And how do we know this wasn't enough to break even? Where are the marketing costs? So far we've just been using your made up standard of three times cost to break even.

>>93000899
Skwad was the only thing that really saved DC, MoS and BvS were still "flops" by your definition.

>>93000899
>WB (other than the same Hollywood Accounting that Disney also uses) is not going around calling BvS a 'financial disappointment.'
Wait the company doesn't go around talking about how disappointed they are with their product? They couldn't possibly be trying to remain optimistic in public for their shareholders, could they?

>>93000921
>I get to make up my own definitions for things.
Oh in that case, the truth is that movies are flops if they don't make a billion dollars. Or are you the only one that gets to make things up?

>>93000966
You still haven't explained the gif here >>93000586.

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>>93000944
Well someone did in the same vein of argument you chose to participate in so you'll forgive us for not distinguishing one anonymous from another when it's largely just one Snyderfan trolling the thread.

>>92992460
The Wachowskis are trans now? Since when?

>>93001011
Does it bother you? Do you not like the special effects?

>>93001028
I'm asking your motive for posting it.

>>93000966
It's a established rule for hollywood that you mcucks have been using to prove that MoS and BvS all the time. BvS budget was $250M and it didn't flop

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2015.htm

MoS is a close call but nothing in the league of Hulk and Cap

>>92993363
At least now they HAVE to acknowledge at the GB remake didn't bomb because "lol Wimmin" but because it just wasn't very good.

>>93001074
The common rule is double budget, not 3x budget, you dumbfuck. You're literally just making stuff up, and you've been bending over backwards to justify MoS when you realized your made-up rule didn't fit your narrative.

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>>93001028
I liked them, quite kino compared to this

>>93000266
Jesus, they are unrecognizable now.

>>93001141
That was a pretty great movie. Need to watch Avengers again.

>>93001028
Still not gonna explain why? Come on now, I just need to confirm this one thing before I totally conclude that you're a memeing retard.

>>93001074
So it's the MCU fans' fault that you can't into math? That you can't adhere to a single consistent standard of comparison? That you're all over the place with cherry picked incidental factoids?

>>93001119
Oh so Suicide Squad didn't need 800M to break even after all. Thanks, I will remember it in a month when you guys claim that WW flopped too

>>93001190
We already know you have shit taste buddy, no need to be redundant

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>>93001223
You seem upset.

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>>93001250
No one is expecting WW to flop now that it's turned out to be quite good. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by bringing Skwad into this either since everyone in the thread has already agreed it's pretty much the sole financial success of the DCEU worth noting up till this point.

>>93001274
Are you really that scared?

>>93001324
Good. But TFA and TIH still flopped ;_;

>>93001333
Of what? Good movies like Wonder Woman. I already told you, I'm happy about it. Who benefits from a bad movie like MoS, BvS or Skwad? It's just more animus online. With a good movie everyone wins... well, except when the MCU has a good movie, then you don't win... I guess. But that's really more your own fault.

>>93001344
Prove it. Where are their marketing figures to compare against their profits?

>>93001367
>except when the MCU has a good movie, then you don't win
Well let's wait until that happens shall we?

>>93001367
About providing an explanation for the gif, but okay. I guess an incoherent rant seals the deal too.

>>93001344
> still no proof detailing all economic data.

(Yawn)

>>92992961
>they went with the generic blockbuster, big special effects and super-star as protagonist for their monster movie universe

>not going with a post-gothic direction with german expressionist cinematography

Literally cancer.

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>>93001395
Well, there's not a single metric you can bring up to validate any of the DCEU movies as good that the MCU hasn't already done better. Unless of course your argument is that Suicide Squad is the only good cape film out of both the DCEU and MCU because of its Oscar.

>>93001398
Does the .gif bother you that much?

>>93001250
You're still making shit up. No one said SS was a flop.

>>93001435
WB is trying to make horror films into superhero movies. They have no idea what they're doing with these characters.

>>93001344
>still making shit up

>>92998549
Also WW looks like a movie and not a TV show with a budget

>>93001515
Isn't the Mummy Universal?

>>92997047
>And even then I wouldn't brag about the commercial success of a film that no one liked

That's some mighty fine projection you got going there, considering a lot of people liked Suicide Squad.

>>93001479
Nope, but your deflections reflect kind of poorly on you.

>>93001533
So better than Skwad?

>>93001533
WW didn't have a tv director doing it. Jenkins movies had already won more oscars than Marvel before WW

>>93001559
Really I don't find anyone on /co/ saying they liked it and there are people here trying to defend MoS and BvS. The point is, no one talks about it being a good movie, they just keep bragging about how much money it made. And even then alot of people liked Age of Ultron too apparently so I guess the MCU wins there too.

>>93001563
A pity for me then.