Who was the worst adult in KND and why is it Common Cold

>>92915297
>>92915297
Because he's fuckin' gross, my dude.

>>92915297
They could have at least made a shitty pun with that name. Something like Commonder Cold.

>>92915386
I always though it was already a pun as its reference of the villain Captain Cold. He has the same weapon as him, but with snot instead of ice.

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>>92915297
Mr. Boss. He didn't even have a power or a gimmick, he was just there because he was an asshole.

Easily Braceface. Dumb gimmick and had an annoying voice.

Spankula.

Because he's a fucking child abuser.

mr. wink and mr. fibb were just a shitty james bond reference

not even a reference to one of the good movies, either.

>>92915540
>gimmick
They gave him one later by making him the only proper "adult" whose child was in the KND. It was interesting to see how the obvious question of "what do the KND do regarding their parents, who are adults?" be answered using him.
>>92915564
Nightbrace.

>>92916054

>Spanking an adult is a crime worthy of being sent to jail over
>spanking a kid is just "lol they deserve it cuz theyre naughty"

KND writes must have been running mental Olympics to justify hitting a child or something because that is some bullshit. I guess rather or not its okay to hit someone varies with age now huh?

>>92915297
because all his episodes are fucking gross.
Despite what dumb marketers and target audience researchers might believe nobody likes gross out humor and you alienate a huge audience when you attempt it.

>>92916054
pretty sure all the of the adult bad guys were child abusers

>>92916175
>nobody likes gross out humor
I wouldn't say "nobody", but white trash trailer kids aren't exactly in a position to finance anything so functionally you are correct.

>>92916175

>retard that thinks spanking a child is child abuse

Let me guess, you think "time outs" work right?

>>92916054
but Spankula appeals to my fetish so i love him

>>92916330
If you can't get your shit across without violence you already royally fucked up as a parent.

>>92916175
It's not meant to be realistic it's meant to be from a child's morals. All the villains represent something children hate/despise or are a symbol of adult hood: Business, coffee, corporal punishment, going to the dentist, bullies, not being allowed to eat candy & drink soda etc.

>>92916373

People like you that cry "wah don't lay a finger on the wittle special snowflakes!!!" are the reason young people nowadays are spoiled and entitled.

>>92916373
Fuck off Stefan Molyneux

>>92916519

>hitting a woman or another man is considered a crime
>hitting a child is just "discipline"
>people still continue to do this even though every single child behavioral scientist and child expert says NOT to
>"lol wut do dey know...I know how ta raise my kids !" *belts kid across the hide for breaking a plate*


I wish blighters like you were all chemically castrated .

>>92916519
I'd rather kids be spoiled than be physically fucking abused, what the fuck is wrong with you? Jesus christ, you sound like a fucking sociopath.

>>92916679
Except child experts say spanking is ok when a child is engaging in dangerous behavior that may put their life or others in danger. And since when is spanking with your hand the same as hitting with a belt? I think you're overestimating the amount of physical damage spanking does.

>>92916696
Spoiled kids lead to entitled SJWs thinking they can get away with anything and everything. You sure you're okay with that?

>>92916519
Nah, just retarded parents giving thier children everything just because they scream autistically.

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>>92915297
nah, robin food is worse

>>92916696

You realize spoiling children is a type of abuse, right? No better than physical abuse, which at least heals eventually.

>>92916951

except how often does a child ever even endanger someones like that?
Stop pretending like spanker parents dont just resort to hitting over every single thing because they're too lazy to actually parent properly, sitting down and using words.


>Spoiled kids lead to entitled SJWs You sure you're okay with that?

okay

this convo is over. Its so apparent the kind of person you are now.

>>92917071

>he thinks physical abuse is only physical
>he doesn't know that physical abuse causing all sorts of resentment and other negative traits such as them wanting to hurt others

>>92916987
I am convinced nobody on this board has autism anywhere near the same degree most of this board has autism tourettes.

>>92917108

Spoiled children also exhibit behavioral and social problems, including hurting other people because they feel they can get away with it.

>>92915297
On a level of being successful? The Toiletnator.

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>>92917057
but what about his side kick,

>>92917436
If the only way you can properly raise a child involves violence, then you're a shitty parent.

>>92917548
you already said that you parrot

>>92916352
this

>>92915297
>Common Cold
>Worst

Reminder that he's essentially a Bio-terrorist targeting children

>>92917548

>In a meta-analysis of 26 studies, Larzelere and a colleague found that an approach they described as “conditional spanking” led to greater reductions in child defiance or anti-social behavior than 10 of 13 alternative discipline techniques, including reasoning, removal of privileges and time out (Clinical Child and Family Psychology Review, 2005).

>>92917637
reminder that knd faked a moon landing and fooled nasa

>>92916373
People like you should've been beat when there were kids.

>>92917548
>Shit I'm getting btfo'd, better repeat my statement

LICORICE
LICORICE
SWEET JUICY AND RED

>>92921485
IT GREW LIKE BAMBOO
TO THE HEAVENS IT SPREAD

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>someone in this thread thinks children shouldn't be subjected to physical disciplinary actions
What the hell are you doing here? That opinion is so Tumblr it's been mocked countless times. Assholes like you are the reason spoiled brats are released onto the world

>>92924255

Spanking and the like just leads to angrier and more violent kids. Don't hit you kids.

>>92924385
that's only true of abuse

>>92916175
There was a period in comics and cartoons between when spanking became looked down upon/illegal and when writers admitted that they couldn't use the same jokes anymore.

>>92917525
What the fuck. He's voiced by Tom Kenny, too.

>>92926090
3:37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh4McTVRE-4

>>92916679
some adults really deserve to get hit too if they act like fucking imbeciles. many states in our nation believe that they deserve to get fucking killed if they're big enough assholes.

>>92924476
I was a shithead as a kid, like I used to set grass on fire and throw rocks at cars, I'd probably be in jail if I wasn't spanked as a kid

>>92924385
Better them being violent than spineless sissies.

>>92916175
>nobody likes gross out humor and you alienate a huge audience when you attempt it.
>that episode where the nurse makes pastries out of pink eye crust and snot

>>92916175
He went to jail 2 times, pretty sure the writer don't think that was alright

>>92916210
Pretty sure Spankula was the only one who actively physically abused children who weren't the KND

obviously adults had to fight the KND so that isn't too bad, but when it came to how they treated regular children they never physically struck them.

>>92926194
No shit.

>>92926122
>that time Lizzle BTFO a bunch of Retirement home cafeteria workers

>>92926309
>Forgetting the time where Mr. Boss was going to send a bunch of children to Mars to work as slave labor

>Forgetting the time where Granny Stuffington literally shoved food down children's throat

>Forgetting that adult who stuffed kids into bottles

>>92920933
Twice

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>>92915297
>out of all the villains in the show, he's the one who got an action figure

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>>92915297
This guy was fucking sadistic.

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>>92924385
Now this is a claim that is about something observable in the real world. So let's check it out! Got any evidence to support your statement? Oh wait. >>92917957

>>92926655
He was more greedy than sadistic

>>92926122
what the fuck its literally the same character

WHAT THE FUCK

>>92926744
>>92924255

Okay, as someone actually pursing developmental psychology as the course of study for my professional career I feel like it's important to step in and end this conversation here. The social pushback to spanking isn't some "tumblr" thing or some "liberal" thing, this is something widely accepted by the psychology community as having detrimental results.

The Larzelere study has been superseded by last year's Gershoff meta-analysis, which covered a much more comprehensive fifty years of research across 160,927 children in 111 different cases.

>http://sci-hub.cc/http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/fam0000191
>Thirteen of the 17 child outcomes examined were found to be significantly associated with parents’ use of spanking. Among the outcomes in childhood, spanking was associated with more aggression, more antisocial behavior, more externalizing problems,
more internalizing problems, more mental health problems, and more negative relationships with parents.

My future career is going to be working with children so this is beyond important to stress here, and I've linked the article directly from a backchannel because I think that openness of information is important for combating ignorance in the realms of science. Please make an attempt to, at the very least, read the conclusions of the study, and understand that you're contending with the results of fifty years worth of collective psychological study when you continue to propose physical discipline as a healthy child-rearing strategy.

>>92915386
Just make him Italian and he's
>InfluEnzo
Or don't change a thing and he's still
>Public Phlegmeny
Or a more military theme
>General Malaise

I could go on with more shitty pun names, but whatever.

>>92927227
>Would-be quack acts like he isn't part of the problem
Don't tout your psychology like it proves anything. Everyone outside the other pseudosciences knows that your entire field of study has been compromised by agendas. The fact disingenuous people like you are going to be responsible for the mental health of children is one hundred percent part of the problem.

>The Larzelere study has been superseded by last year's Gershoff meta-analysis, which covered a much more comprehensive fifty years of research across 160,927 children in 111 different cases.
Huh, Funny you should mention the Gershoff study. Mind commenting on this?

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/parenting-issues/corporal-punishment-a-scientific-review-of-its-use-in-discipline/research-on-disciplinary-spanking-is-misleading
>The anti-spanking research suffers from three major fallacies or defects that invalidate its conclusions. These flaws are evident in a recent summary of research on spanking by Dr. Elizabeth Gershoff and her colleague, Dr. Andrew Grogan-Kaylor.
>Notably, only four of the 75 studies in the latest Gershoff overview ensured that spanking was used appropriately, and those four studies actually found disciplinary spanking to be at least as effective as the three alternatives with which it was compared.
>In contrast, all the evidence against spanking came from the other 71 studies which suffer from three major fallacies, any one of which would be a fatal flaw in medical research.
>Only 4 of their 75 studies were limited to two open-handed swats to the buttocks for child defiance. The other 71 studies lumped together all “spanking” regardless of how it was implemented and why it was used.

By the way, that "mind commenting" was facetious. Fuck off, "doc."

>>92927643
third time's the charm

>>92916330
>retard thinks that hitting an adult is assault

Let me guess, you think "prisons" work right?

>>92927687
When I'm BTFOing quacks this thoroughly, anything less than a perfect looking post is a disservice.

>>92915386
>pun names
>>>/out/

Toiletnator

Is there no thread that is safe from being derailed by politics or people who will more then likely never have children arguing about what the best way to bring children up is?

>>92927227
Get out Molyneux

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>Dad got the shit kicked out of him when he was a kid
>Grew and had my brother an I
>Promises never to hit us
>Sometimes we acted like a little shit
>Get smacked upside the head
>Suddenly that has a much larger impact on behavior

You can't hit kids for every little thing. But if they are acting dangerously or like a complete asshole even by child standards it can work. At least it in our case. inb4 hurr durr anecdotal evidence

>>92926122
>>92926914
Genndy confirmed fucking hack

>>92926780
He feed numbah 3 to a bunch of sharks.

>>92927883
Don't be an ass. At least have the decency of reading over the abstract and conclusions in the linked article - you're contesting the product of fifty years of research on the subject when you act like this, and I'm going to be professionally responsible for dealing with the repercussions if we allow this sort of thinking to continue.

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>>92927923
Most studies show that hitting children (or really, any physical punishment) causes them to lash out. They end up more obedient in front of their parents, but start fights/violently interact with children or those they don't see as above them in status. Obviously the degree to which you are hit matters (and not everyone is the same) but the overall picture is that physical punishments are not effective.

Shame and the feeling of being ignored are better modifiers of behavior typically.

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>>92928044
See >>92927643

>>92928119
Yeah, and those studies showed it to be (when properly regulated, which it rarely is when you are dealing with pissed parents) just as effective. Not MORE effective.

I was never hit once, but my parents put the fear in me. My parents were smacked all the time, and they told me all it made them feel was anger after a while, especially when they could pin it on an external ("IT WAS REALLY MY BROTHER'S FAULT").

>>92926655
>>92926780


..Uh yeah, Chester was far more a fucking demon than most of the other KND villains apart from Father and the Grandfather, even if his motivation solely stemmed from profit Because he disqualified himself as a human being in the process. He ran a sweatswop disguised as a camp. He opens a business that specifically tries to sell meat made from *children* to goddang sharks and then went and made a headband/mind control device that essentially trapped kids in a matrix that could be set to pleasant or fucking nightmare mode.

The moosebumps deal doesn't quite count since Numbuh 1 may have been making that up, but I'd be inclined to believe him.

Chester needed to be put down, FFS.

>>92926914

They're both a Sammy Davis, Jr. reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6aNzFYHyz

>>92915297
>every adult was themed after something kids hate like the dentist or school lunch food
>that guy who wore toilet paper as a costume and was bathroom themed
why?

>>92916352
another anon with a vampire fetish i see

Grandma stuffums

Never liked her, but that one musical episode was great

>>92929432
While I never had any issues with the restroom. There was a woman I grew up with who hated the bathroom. She almost drowned in the bathtub as a kid and was scared of water.

>>92929432
I think that was for swirlies, but had to expand on the theme since not everywhere has a toilet.

>>92926122
>Babe
>It felt like scaramouche right there

Genndy and warburton must have had fun with his voice and making their respective characters with kennys voice

>>92926655
>Got my fetish from the moose bumps episode
>its transformation

At least it isn't worse

>>92915297
God he must kill thousands of Japanese every year.

>ITT: sad people from homes that hurt them attempt to rationalize beating their children

>>92928044
Shut up Sigmund, most of your ideas have been widely discredited

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>the nurse who was keeping children infected with pink eye so she could harvest their eye crust to make baked goods
To this day still one of the nastiest fucking things I've ever seen in a kids show.

>>92929808
And don't forget the implication at the end of the episode that the baked goods' filling was phlegm/mucus.

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>>92926122
>trying to eat lunch
>bunch of Errol Flynn looking faggots steal your lunch
The only way someone would get out of the cafeteria with my boat pizza or crispito is in a fucking body bag

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>>92929808
For me, I ate my boogers as a kid, but watching that was something worse. It was nasty

>>92929746
What are your opinions on Calvin and Hobbes?

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>>92929808
>mfw I thought they really looked tasty until the end

>>92926175
>comparing an adult to a vulnerable and easily manipulated person with a developing brain

we try crimes differently based on age for a reason Sherlock

>>92927643
it's okay, some men are born stupid

>>92916098
Why were they a walrus and a buffalo?

>>92920792
I'm surprised no one in the KND with an older sister stole a bra, experimented with it to find out how it worked, and reverse engineer it to create Battle-ready Armor for KND purposes, even making them all have the capability of a birthday suit while still giving enhanced weapons and durability.

>>92928044
>sigmund frued

Wasn't he a complete pervert though?

>>92929432
Canonically Lou got his powers when some ancient toilet spirit made him the Ghost Rider to punish wicked children who make bathrooms look like war zones with toilet paper everywhere and overflowing toilets and leaving the seat up and etc etc etc

Problem is, Lou as a person sucks so what would be a formidable villain was a joke

>>92926556
I want one of those

>>92927643

I would point out that if you think for a moment that the 'appropriate' spanking as described here is what most people, or even a significant portion, are talking about when they discuss spanking, you're almost certainly wrong.

>>92916352
Daran Norris gets me going too. Especially his Venom voice

everyone's arguing whether or not spanking is a reasonable form of discipline
am i the only one here that thinks it's fucking WEIRD for an adult to spank a child? like why not smack their face instead?

>>92934386
because people can see that and will judge you for that

>>92934386
It's for effect. The actual strike is meant to quick and light, creating a loud noise which startles the kid.

>>92934386
The butt has thick layers of muscle and fat over some of the strongest bones in the body. A spank can sting, but it won't cause injury. The face has thin layers of tissue over many bones, several of which of which are sharp and/or fragile. The goal of a spanking is to provide an unpleasant sensation as negative reinforcement, not to cause injury.

>>92916175
Spankulot went to jail because he spanked the judge's wife and she liked it so it looked like adultery. That was the joke.

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>>92915564
>>92916144
You idiots are both wrong, it's Knightbrace. though Braceface would have been a better.

He was my favourite when I watched season 1 as a kid. Not sure why. I think I just liked his costume?

Father was easily the most terrifying. (Again, this was when only the first season had aired.)

>>92928044
Kids are stupid they barely even have a developed sense of empathy and you think shame can control them?

>>92934386
The butt is shock absorbing meaning you can apply alot of force but cause no injury.

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>>92916098
I think you're right. I'd also submit Professor XXXL and Chester as lame villains.

Early KND had a thing about villains who were also part of animal. Does anyone know why?

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>>92916519
Thanks for your original opinion

>>92915540
I always thought Mr Boss was going to be related to Nigel considering how similar to Number 0 he looked.

>>92916951
Can't speak for anyone else but my mum spanked me when I did something dangerous, running across the road for example and it did actually deter me from doing it again.

But I think that corporal punishment should be used like you said, when the child is endangering themselves.

Negative reinforcement can be a useful deterent but shouldn't be the go-to for everything. I'd argue only using it for extreme cases makes it more effective.

The problem is that corporal punishment can be used by abusive parents as a means of disguising said abuse.

>>92926207
I'd say don't procreate but...

>>92936219
Corporal punishment should be used on delinquents. Detention is meant to be a form of mental torture by boring you to death but has no effect on delinquents.

>>92936258
Dude please legit murderers procreate and you lose your panties over child discipline?

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>>92929432
He's meant to be a lame villain with a poorly thought out theme.

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>>92929904

>>92936125
Any child psychologist will tell you that children have powerfully emotions, they just can't articulate them the way adults can.

Kids develop a sense of self around 4 and a sense of pride and shame. Kids who are abused feel deep humiliation and shame.

Did you ever see those Daddyofive videos? That kid was feeling intense shame which turned into frustration and self hate.

Any source on child psychology can tell you about how children experience shame. Kids aren't stupid, you are.

>>92936268
>Better them being violent than spineless sissies.
I stand by my statement.

And clear something up for me, you're totally comfortable with kids being violent rather than 'sissies' yet you object to murderers who are by definition violent people?

>>92915297
Has there ever been a decent KND thread of 4chan? Has anyone ever experienced one?

Everytime I visit one it's degenerate fapthreads (usually foot fetishists because of the design style) and now this one has derailed into a thread about corporal punishment.

Additional question: Why wasn't there a villain called Corporal Punishment?

Note:
>People who are anti-spanking believe it is harmful to the child's psyche
>People who are pro-spanking think the kid should get hit regardless

it's like you don't even have to believe in anything to see that this is "It's bad" "But I don't wanna stop!"

>>92936407
Didn't he turn out to be really powerful somehow?

>>92936872
Nope. There was no such episode. He was a lame duck throughout the whole series.

>>92924385
What if they like it tho?

>>92936558
>Why wasn't there a villain called Corporal Punishment?

He was held back by General Liability

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>>92937719
We have got to rethink our hiring policy!

>>92931746
>"STAY OUTTA MY ROOM, TWERP"

>>92936872
There was that one episode where he beat a couple of the villains thinking they were Sector V, only for the real Sector V to show up and kick his ass at the end.

>>92915297
what was mr. fizz reason to bottle chirldren?

>>92928044
>not effective
>They end up more obedient in front of their parents

Sounds effective to me, professor motherfucker

>>92927643
So you're telling me that every parent is going to only limit themselves to open handed slapping rears when disciplining their children?

I haven't read anything on this, I'm just trying to grasp your point.

>>92937060

Toiletnator? He had a high showing in one of the CHOCOLATE episodes where he flushed the entire Grand Canyon IIRC.

>>92937060
What about that time where he summoned a giant toilet or something?

>>92916175
Did the writers send Spankulot to jail because the idea of a grown man spanking random kids not go over well?

>>92939437
you're willing to accept bad data if it supports your opinion but wont change your opinion when brought new information because, even though you cite studies like you're a scientist, science has nothing to do with your position.

Ok seriously, the wayu I see it its that physical discipline can work, but the issue is that people are going to abuse that because its socieotally acceptable. Even if you support physical discipline, you have to admit that the parent is playing with fire. Not every kid is gonna react the same. If you have a method of making a kid do what you want, you're going to use it., Most parents have multiple because they aren't idiots. Some can only get it through to kids through violence.

I'm more disturbed by how people view it as the adult can do no wrong when advocating it, and how the child can do no wrong when opposing it.

KND was one of the few CN shows to have genuinely depressing moments. The episodes about getting old and losing your innocence/goodness ("decommissioned") are just sad.

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>people acting like the toiletnator is useless
>forgetting the part in the videogame where he has an army of walking poop monsters at his disposal
iunno about you guys but I'm not fuckin with the guy who has the shit homunculus at his disposal

>>92939663
Ok I'm going to be responding to only the point made by this post, nothing to do with anything else.

This is a very controversial issue that has people colored both ways. Most psychological studies are going to be colored one way or another due to its political nature. I'm not attacking your point, but what makes your data better than their data?

>>92926122
>LIKE YOU NEED IT

>>92939764
Quality of the study. Degrees of impartiality. But if you want to argue that all data is manipulated and nothing is impartial then we can just give up and accept that all data is subjective and there are no answers but what we each individually believe. Beat your kids. Don't beat your kids. Everybody is right. Everybody is wrong.

>>92929717
Same, although my transformation thing came from the were-poodle episodes.

>>92927643
Oh yeah that's a real fallacy, because as we all know parents who spank their kids always make sure to restrict themselves to what could be considered "appropriate" as defined by psychologists.

>>92929432
Well some kids when they're really young are afraid of using the bathroom, but quickly learn that using it is a natural thing. Likewise, the Toiletnator tries to be a threatening villain but he really isn't a big deal.

Toiletnator is the only villain the kids have already "grown out off".

>>92924385
>kid starts screaming in public about something stupid and acting like a brat making you look like a bad parent
>tell him to calm down
>refuses
>spank him when you get home
not abuse

>kid does something bad on accident
>spank him
thats abuse

>kid is being a general danger to the community or other children like >>92926194
>spank him
not abuse

>using a belt at all
thats abuse

does that clear it up for you buttercup?

>>92939287
What about when they're away from their parents? A well-adjusted child should be able to behave without being in their parent's presence.