Was it satisfactory? How did "you" want it to end?

it was KINO and no one can convince me differently

>>92563372
ashi fades to nothing but it shows the future timeline without aku and ashi and her sisters and everyone is there honoring a statue of jack

>>92563372
I would've liked it if the gods brought back Ashi just for Jack for all he's done, but other than that, absolutely perfect.

Perfect

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>>92563372
Gurren laggan did it better.

>>92563372
I was satisfied yet I still feel empty.

>>92563372

I thought it was OK, the best for a bittersweet ending. I honestly thought he was never going to go back into the past: metaphor for letting go of past mistakes/regrets.

I'm glad Ashi disappeared. If she didn't, it would have implied alternate timelines existed and that would have meant everyone in Aku's future would have to live with an unstoppable Aku

I accept this ending. This is the journey that he was train to do and he did it. The future won't have to suffer from Aku's terror anymore, and if his future friends still exist without Aku's altering the timeline, then they're safe

>>92563372
I was hoping Jack would have a revelation about his focus on returning to the past. I was hoping he'd realize that while going back will save people that used to be in his life, many people now that are so important to him wouldn't exist as a consequence.

He would see how all these new friends willing to die to protect him and see the love of his life and decide that he can defeat the evil in the present world and enjoy it for that is has become to him: a new home.

>>92563541

Damn, it's been so long since I saw the series I forgot it ended like that.

>>92563372
I was hoping Scaramouche would come back

>>92563372
Aku died like a pussy, the ending was cliche as fuck and frankly didn't make sense. Whole thing was just rushed, even felt like they were forced to talk faster. 0/10 ruined the entire series for me.

>>92563372
So since people can't exist in a timeline where they were never born and can't have possibly existed, my headcanon is that, from Scotsman's and everyone in the future's perspective, Aku faded away before their eyes, screaming in rage and fear, after Ashi and Jack went back in time, since he couldn't exist after his past self was destroyed. The future timeline then continued to exist and the world was rebuilt, with Jack and Ashi honored forever.

This hope brings me comfort and it's what I choose to believe in. The saddest thing about the ending, for me, is not Ashi's death, but all of the characters from the past 5 seasons supposedly ceasing to exist.

I know I'm a faggot but this is how I view the ending, other than the lack of closure for the other characters I thought it was amazing.

>>92563372
satisfactory but nothing more
>horrible pacing
>not much closure
>dumb ending
it just needed to be longer really
still, nice visuals and there was some closure

>>92563372
Was great, glad I didn't miss it.

>>92563737
>Aku died like a pussy
Well he is in his weakest state and even in the future, he almost got kill by Jack many times

>>92563541
God forbid anyone try what Gurren Laggan does, right?

>>92563415
elaborate

>>92563898
There's being inspired and then there's copying the ending 1:1

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>>92563541

This was seriously the only outcome I was expecting once the whole "Aku is a part of her" thing was brought up weeks ago.

"She's going to get Nia'd, isn't she?"

Yup, I was fucking right.

>>92563296
>>92563296
>>92563296

It wasn't good and no one can convince me it was, just because it techically "was an ending" doesn't mean it was good. Sure Samurai Jack is over, Aku is dead but this season just stuck out like a sore thumb. For starters literally none of it matter, it literally existed to make us feel bad for Jack. So yeah we can say their was an ending to Jack, but two years ago I could of told you "Jack gets back to the past and kills Aku" and you'd have literally the exact same closure. I'm not satisfied honestly but I guess I can accept it. I feel anyone who actually watched the series before this season probably hated this finale.

It was literally TTGL, and I kind of saw it coming

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It was alright. It had no twist or turns, they took the pure and simple route which while was a little lame, also had little room to mess up as well. I was also an anti-Past so I'm somewhat disappointed. That said:
>mfw 90% of all the complaining was people bitching how he'll never go through a time portal
>mfw now all of a sudden 90% of people want him to stay in the future
What the fuck is wrong with you faggots.

>>92563737
That's because Aku IS a pussy anon. I mean, he was a world-enslaving, if not galaxy-enslaving, evil hiring goddamn bounty hunters, having to give himself therapy, and even somehow got the common cold. Not to mention he's been trashed before.

>>92563898
Yes because that was a shit tier ending to start with.

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So why isn't pic related a bigger deal?

How do people live knowing that a moon-sized leviathan lives deep underground and can emerge at any time to chomp an entire city in one bite?

No one else is concerned?

>>92563372
Would have been perfect if, in this scene, he pulled a sword out from his robe and thrust it into himself, immediately cutting to black with the iconic "WATCHAA". Although I was really expecting the space deities to materialize Ashi in front of him at the end there.

>>92564061
Nah. It was great with TTGL because Simon HAD THE POWER to make Nia continue existing, but chose not to since he promised the Anti-Spirals that humans would not abuse Spiral Energy like they predicted they would.
It was the most personal sacrifice for the good of the entire universe.

>>92564039
>I was also an anti-Past

I don't get how people can be against the main fucking thing that the entire show is based upon

also, /co/ is not 1 person you dingus

I really wanted seppuku.

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It was fine.

To be honest I probably would have liked it more if the comic hadn't done it first and five times better.

seemed off
jack refused to go back in the past to kill aku and undo his evil at least once, probably more
so why at the end, did he just leave the present to go to the past?
why did he save those archer monks instead of just going to the past, killing aku, and making it so none of that shit happened?
it seemed like jack cared more about saving those in the present than going back. but suddenly that was no more and jack wants to go to the past to end it.

I dunno. maybe he finally wised up and realized saving those in the present is pointless and going back in the past is the better plan.

Ashi staying would have been uncomfortable. She was the daughter of Aku. She could turn evil at any moment without warning. Their children could be ticking time bombs.

>>92563372
I felt a little bad that those people who jack helped stopped existing.
But im aware that 1000 years of Aku is worth it.

At least Jack got a little better cause of the ladybug.

>>92564243
He was a moral person. If he hadn't saved those people, the sword wouldn't have deemed him worthy to wield it.

>>92563977
Underrated post. Thanks for the new desktop background.

>>92564124

Aku keeps that around as his pet.

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What a mess.

>Everything was SO FUCKING RUSHED.
>So many fucking loose ends.
>Aku's demise was unceremonious.
>Everyone from the future is basically just gone and never mentioned again.
>Scotsman reunion was shit.
>That stolen ending from TTGL.

What a fucking letdown...

whenever I see two posts with the same image right beside each other I wonder if it's some sort of psychology experiment

>>92564326
seems dooming literally everyone on earth and beyond so he could save like, 40 people is rather immoral

again, it seemed like jack wanted to do the right thing by not leaving people behind, and save them rather than just leave through a portal. that made some sense. but now that we see jack just wants to stop aku, why didn't he do that from the get go?

>>92564177
I expected him to realize that by going back to the past everything in the future would no longer exist, and him being determined savior of the future and what not decided it's not worth to sacrifice one world to save another. It didn't help the whole shtick of season 5 being all time portals were gone. But whatever, the one we got was decent enough.

>/co/ is not 1 person you dingus
Fair enough, but when see the amount of rage a week ago because people thought he won't go back to the amount of rage now that he did, it seems a little fucky.

>>92564124
Aku brought those monsters (probably from space) to the world.

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>>92563372
Jashifags were BTFO. It was all I wanted.

>>92564124

>what is a plot device

Gotta be honest though, the designs for the creature's innards were amazing.

It ended basically exactly how I wanted it to (Jack getting back to the past and Ashi sacrificing herself) it was just rushed as fuck. Way too much shit happened in only 22 minutes which robbed everything of it's impact. I think the main plot of S5 was fine, it was just way too much for only 10 episodes to cover. It gets hammered in but ep 1-3 were fantastic and everything since has felt slapdash in comparison. Still glad it happened of course, but I can't help but feel a little disappointed. I'd probably like it more on a rewatch now that I know the full picture.

Hopefully we get a complete series blu ray or something.

>>92564348
>loose ends
Going back to the past erases the future, none of what happened exists now.

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When Jack was about to land the killing stroke that would undo the future timeline, future Aku should have popped into the past as well.

He'd have fused with his past incarnation into an even greater monstrosity, leaving Jack and Ashi to duke it out with him in a climactic final battle.

>>92564587
>expecting something that grand when there was like 4 minutes left

They fucked up with the typical run-time on this episode. Goddamn, was this episode rushed.

>>92564348
>>Scotsman reunion was shit.
nah

>>92564516
I think Genndy planned to flesh out the Ashi relationship way more but had to fit it into the 10 episode limit.
We can clearly see he still has the ability to make great episodes judging by the first few, but he decided that finishing the story was the most important thing.

The plot itself was fine, it was just too rushed. Final battle should have been extended over an hour ep and Guardian should have had a proper sendoff

Otherwise no gripes this season

>>92564348
I guess we don't need to know who the High Priestess was or what happened to the Guardian or any of that shit.

>>92563372
After Aku's defeat, there would have been a long uncensored sex scene for 10 minutes.

>>92564571
What a great way to end the series, by making all the characters we've come to know and love not even exist anymore. 16 years all for nothing.

>>92563854
honestly i thought he would die within one slash

>>92564701
>High Priestess was
some slut who drank aku jizz
> or what happened to the Guardian or any of that shit.
he died

>>92563372
It was fine, bittersweet even. I applaud him for having the balls to do it too. not every show, well western shows go for an ending that isn't a happy note. I'll enjoy these few moments until some of those faggots decide to sperg out again with how it was the worst ending ever.

>>92564348
>Scotsman reunion was shit

I laughed all the way through, lighten up.

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What a terrible way for this show to go out.

Huge fucking letdown.

First few episodes were fantastic, though. But this...damn, what a fucking mess.

>>92564756
What fantastic writing. Truly amazing.

>>92564723
I want to believe the got a little freaky before rebuilding Japan

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Between Samurai Jack and Humanz, I feel like all the forces of my childhood are coming together to collectively disappoint me.

>>92564918
horillaz was always shit just like jack

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but...
If Ashi had lived, it would have created TONS of logical paradoxes and dilemmas. The most severe of which is... she would have been immortal. Jack was a time traveller, Aku's magic made him immortal because he was out of sync with his own timeline.
Ashi was as well, so logically she would have outlived Jack and everyone else. She would be unable to die unless she killed herself.
I think Genndy wanted to avoid that scenario

>>92563996
same

>>92564124

There could have been an entire race of people living inside that thing.

>>92563372

My biggest gripes were
>not enough Scotsman
>Oh Ashi! You have Aku's powers
>instantly time portal

I expected it to be longer.

Anyways, the best part is that this episode somehow more like a original SJ episode than the others. I don't know why. Maybe it was the scene of Ashi struggling with Aku's evilness or the final blow to Aku in that 3 way cut.

Overall, the pacing was the biggest problem, Even two more episodes would have been so much better to tell the story and don't feel rushed.

>>92564794
>show ends the way it was set out to
>a letdown

Clearly, you did not watch the show growing up, and only bandwagoned this season.

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...was that seriously how it ended?

What the fuck? That was easily some of the most rushed plot development I've seen in quite a while. Holy fuck. Also, seriously, they did the Gurren Lagann thing? I was kinda expecting that part, but holy fuck was this entire episode just one huge clusterfuck of a rush job.

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For be Akus
>On no.
Scene made it good, him realizing that it's all over and he's probably about to vanish was pretty satisfying in the end

>>92565061
I've seen the episodes back in the 2000's.

Quit being a blind bitch fanboy and see the rushed and terrible writing for what it is.

>>92564853
People expected some huge twist, but Genndy just wanted to make it as simple as possible as to be able to finish it within the limited span they gave him.

Apart from the usual time travel fuckery there is no plotholes, everything was explained and the explanation really are that simple. I agree that it's disappointing but I do feel your making it look far worse then is, though I suppose you could make the argument that this is largely due to the first three episodes which really while absolutely amazing does a terrible job of creating the opening tone of what the show is about.

I was waiting for jack to commit seppuku

>>92564242
this, sad this was retconned

I felt like the entire thing went downhill once Ashi turned into a Disney fairy. This last episode was pretty bad.

>>92565098
Genndy only had 10 episodes. 210 minutes in total.

If he had 15-20 episodes, I think it would have been more satisfying, but I bet 10 is the most CN would give him.

Could have been better, but still really happy we got an ending at all.

>>92563452
that is literally what I thought was gonna happen at the end.

I thought Jack was riding off to see them.

>>92565098
If anything, this just made me want to watch TTGL again.

>>92565155
Yes I agree I'm disappointed, I have no problem with the fact that Jack and Ashi fall in love, I really liked where it was going, until I realized that after episode 8 there was only 2 more episodes left. I was like WTF THIS SHIT IS SO RUSHED there's no way i'm not going to be disappointed.

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>>92563415
>GENNDY CAN DO NO WRONG MUH KINO

>>92565260
10 half hours seems to be a standard for Adult Swim

>everything gets resolved in 20 minutes
>oh ashi has time portal powers, oh ok
>aku just dies, whatever
>ashi gets nia'd
>jack is a lonely soul with no will left to live
>the end

ayy lmao

>>92565316
do it/ it's the 10th anniversary of kamina's death. or was.

>>92564242
>literally better than what we got
Genndy is a fucking hack

>>92565501
>>oh ashi has time portal powers, oh ok
she had his other powers
>>aku just dies, whatever
that was aku at his weakest

>>92565501
>>jack is a lonely soul with no will left to live

"Life goes on" is the message.
Did you not watch Evangelion, Gurren Lagann, or any Ghibli movie, scrub?

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If Aku being defeated meant Ashi never existed, then Ashi never existing means they never defeated Aku, which means Ashi did exist, which means they did defeat Aku, which means Ashi didn't exist, which means they didn't defeat Aku, etc.

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>>92563372
Fine to me, but apparently 'fine' isn't good enough for /co/

On the other hand, nothing is good enough for /co/ unless there is an abundance of porn involved so whatever.

>>92563732
Did you watch episode 9?

>>92564496
>someone made funnay joke
>BETTER TAKE A PICTURE OF IT
>>>/reddit/

>>92563541
What if he went further back in time and raped Aku

>>92565648
>Evangelion,
I thought the message was everyone hates you for a reason
>Gurren Lagann,
Willpower can overcome anything
>or any Ghibli movie
im not a child

>>92565648
Only difference was that those works weren't rushed like hell.

>>92565260
>only had 10 episodes

He could've done plenty with 10.
There was so much filler this season it was unbelievable.
The prison monster episode was nothing. Literally nothing. The ONLY thing it established was "they're in love now."
Cut out that entire episode and just have them make out at the end of the previous one and absolutely nothing would have changed.

You can tell a tight, compelling story in 20 minutes if you have the talent, but they filled this season to the brim with unnecessary tropes.
The fact that they 1:1 recreated the ending of Gurren Lagann tells me that Genndy didn't even want to do this, he probably never intended Samurai Jack to end at all.
He just took all the most stock plot devices he could have and strung them out in a sequence with no nuance.

>>92565664
it's bttf rules. you change something it changes no matter what

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>>92565664
And that is why you fail anon.

>>92564696
If Ashi's romance was going to be a thing, one episode or two at most should have been enough, it was rushed anyways.

Episode 8 should have been Guardian appearing again, after having hidden/teleported/timetravelled the portal itself, fights Jack, When he's lost Aku appears, short fight, Aku kills guardian and says something emotive, Aku destroys portal, Jack struggles to maintain his emotional balance and a battle with Aku is promised in the next episode.

Episode 9, Everyone appears, they fight Aku, Aku takes control of Ashi, Jack has to kill both, Ashi regains consciousness and uses Aku's power inside her to create a portal, Jack stares at his friends and jumps into the portal, He arrives the exact moment when he was sent into the future and the final blow is struck. Closeup of his eyes, "At last, my quest has come to an end." WACHA!!

Episode 10 is an epilogue. Kino last samurai music plays the entire episode. Opening: Jack is narrating: LONG AGO IN A DISTANT PAST. Jack frees the emperor, rebuilding scenes, there's a big ceremony to receive the empress who's returned to the kingdom. Jack is walking some gardens and meets his long lost childhood love, they look at each other in a kino way and there's a marriage scene. After some time, the emperor is dying and Jack is struck with sadness again, he decides to make a journey to find truth or whatever, he goes to places that would be landmarks of the future and remembers the people he helped, he returns to the empire and is crowned as the new Emperor. Bearded and crowned, he makes the journey to the mountain he climbed and returns the sword to the gods now that it's not needed anymore, he leaves it on the ground and walks away, turns back and the sword is gone, he closes his eyes in respite.

Timeskip and it's Jack telling this tale to his grandchildren, as soon as he's finished, he remembers the future again, has a vision of his friends and finally closes his eyes.

EPISODE CI.

>>92565648
>>92565697
I though the message of NGE was fuck cute boys

>>92565697
>I thought the message was everyone hates you for a reason

Watch episodes 25 and 26

>Willpower can overcome anything

Exactly, which is why Jack goes on living

>im not a child

You posting on 4chan begs to differ

it was more bitter than sweet

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>>92565648
The only acceptable comparison I see is Evangelion. Why? Only because of the original ending to that series, where they ran out of budget and just said, "Fuck it." That's basically the end of Samurai Jack. At least Anno, him being a depressed madman aside, actually had the courtesy to dedicate an entire film to correcting the first ending to the series.

>>92565664
>Jack goes back in time
>Kills past Aku
>Future is undone
>Ashi, who is a product of said future, is thus undone
>All characters and events whose existence does not rely on the undone future continue to exist

It's not hard, Anon

>>92565722
This. Genndy can animate and choreograph like a motherfucker, but he should never write.

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I don't know about you guys, but that ladybug at the end was pretty hot.

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Does Genndy watch anime or something? Did he seriously just rip off Gurren Lagann? What the fuck was this last episode?

>>92563372
It was part of the ending that I wanted.

I wanted futurejack returning just after pastjack was sent away, and immediately destroying Aku.

More or less got that part, but I was hoping to see a proper fight and victory against future Aku. The victory in the past could have then just been a WACHA cut as jack comes out of the portal in a striking motion.

>>92563372
I just wish we had more time. All the scenes were fine, I just wish there was more time dedicated to them.

If we had the finale be a 40 minute special, then that last major fight would not have felt so rushed.

The Spartans returning was great though.

>>92565867

The undoing itself relies on the undone future. It's neither easy nor hard, just incorrect.

>>92565685
>getting triggered by harmless comments
>MAXIMUM DAMAGE CONTROL
>>>/tumblr/

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>>92565673
I liked the ending. It's the ending the show needed. Jack goes back to the past, defeats Aku, and undoes the horrible future. I felt resolved, and that's all I wanted out of it.

Nothing is ever good enough for /co/ because then there wouldn't be anything to complain about.

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>>92565955
>does Genndy watch anime or something
Did you forget Jigen ?

>>92565673
>>92566021
>it's an I'll ignore valid complaints and circlejerk instead episode

Shittiest

Finale

Ever...

>>92565722
>There was so much filler

You keep using that word... I do not think you know what it means.

"Filler" is when there is no source material plot so poorly made episodes/air time is created to fill the space until more actual content can be produced.

Genndy isn't stupid, he presents what he does for reasons, be it atmospheric, comedic, artistic, or relevant to the plot. Let me go on to cite examples of this and what I mean....

>The prison monster episode was nothing. Literally nothing.

No. It was presenting and solidifying Jack and Ashi's romantic relationship while giving them a shared threat to overcome and reinforcing the emotions of how a life or death situation helps to break down inhibitions and hesitation.

It had to be dramatic and compelling in itself. Genndy could have shoved that into 1/3 or 1/2 of an episode. It had to stand alone or even MORE people would have screamed it was rushed.

>You can tell a tight, compelling story in 20 minutes if you have the talent,

One of the key aspects of SJ has always been ATMOSPHERE. Setting a mood. As well as comedy, jokes, and lightheartedness to contrast the drama and seriousness. That's what this final season did as well as the earlier ones.

>The fact that they 1:1 recreated the ending of Gurren Lagann

GL wasn't the first piece of fiction to use time travel that deletes someone.

Also Genndy is a big anime/japanese culture fan. SJ is based in pop culture.


>he probably never intended Samurai Jack to end at all.

Maybe. But what are you gonna do? Unwatch the series? Kill yourself? Cry some more? He's the creator and he made what he made. You're free to complain but it won't change anything.

>He just took all the most stock plot devices he could have and strung them out in a sequence with no nuance.

There was a lot of nuance in this season, you just don't like it. I also challenge you to find any piece of media that you can't level the generic complaint of "stock plot devices" against.

>>92566132
>/co/
>valid complaints
pick one

what a terrible way for the show to end

>>92566134

No, that would be a tie between Lost and Sopranos.

>>92566160
I repeat my post

>>92565841
So are you going to fund the Samurai Jack movies to correct this?

>>92566132
>said the pot to the kettle

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>>92566143
everything you just said is so wrong that all i'm gonna do is respond with a smug reaction face and call you dumb

you're dumb and this season was mediocre

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>>92563372
>Jack has been missing for years
>Jack ages slow enough to have gray on his beard
>Jack has lost his way and has gone into a deep depression since the time portals got destroyed
>more Samurai rise up against Aku
>Scotsman's death pushes Jack out of retirement
>Seven daughter plot is kept
>first few episodes consist of Jack trying to restore himself
>Ashi becomes his sidekick and later his lover lover
>Jack finds his sword like int he show (doesn't lose the beard
>Ending is the same but this time the battle is more brutal
>Jack leads the armies
>Da Samoorai dies in honor
>The Ghost of the Scotsman suffers as he watches his daughters die on the battle field
>leaves everyone dead but Ashi, Jack, and Aku
>Jack and Ashi travel tot he past
>Jack and Ashi are fatally wounded
>Jack gives the final blow, killing Aku
>Jack and Ashi die on the ground together
>many years later a flowering tree grows on the spot

I wanted Texhnolyze style ending. With Jack looking at the ladybug in the same way Ichise did with Ran's hologram flower.

>>92565841
Season 5 should have had 12 episodes and the finale should have been a movie.
That would be the best way to fix the problems everyone had with this season and to actually pace shit correctly.

>>92566198
Hey, if they had a Patreon.

>>92563372
The first half of the season was great but the second half felt more interested in pandering to nostalgia and in the end produced an extremely rushed ending

>>92566215
I don't see how that phrase applies here

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>>92566221
Ok.

>>92563372
There will be a season 6 when they realize there could be millions of dollars made off of it.

>>92565841
>anno had the decency to make End of Evangelion
>genndy probably won't make an End of Samurai Jack

Should have ended with a final WATTCHAAA

>>92566255
>Aku teleports behind Jack
>"Nothing personel... FOOOLL"

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>>92565260
Over the garden wall told a better more complete story with much better pacing in half that time.
Same with the Clone War shorts
Same with the 2003 Teen Titan's seasons
Same with dozens of other shows.

Stop using this piss poor excuse

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>>92563372
Fuck no

>Ashi gets all of Aku's powers, doens't need a single second to figure out how to use them basically making it so they won because of her

>All the allies jack had are completely erased from history because of how they changed the past

>Ashi somehow survives this long enough to get to the wedding so people will keep shiipping Jashi

>Jack/aku fight lasts less than a minute, all we see for most of it is jack's allies getting fucked by aku (WE BUILT UP TO THIS FOR 10 YEARS)

>JACK GOES BACK TO THE PAST NOT BECAUSE HE BEAT AKU, OR BECAUSE HE FOUND HIS OWN WAY TO DO IT, IT WAS ALL BECAUSE OF ASHI

Fuck this, show should have ended with Jack stuck in the past after sucking it up and dueling Aku and killing Ashi, that way all his allies are still there and he can rebuild the world together with his bros, instead, we are supposed to care more about all the friends we only see for the first episode of the show

Fuck this, I mad as fuck

as a long time Jack fan and non-contrarian /co/-poster, I liked it
it was satisfying to see everyone band together like that, there were still some fun moments, and Jack was happy all-in-all.
I didn't really like Ashi anyways so he's better off.
Also I marked out when Aku did the old opening to the show for everyone.

>>92564968
>ashi becomes a reverse aku
>gods of evil task a warrior to kill her for balance

HOLY SHIT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING

>>92566306
You accuse me of circlejerking yet cannot see how many 'valid complaints' are still much the same pointless echo chamber, whining for the sake of whining.

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>>92566143

>>92566429
I liked it too. It wasn't perfect, but it was more than we deserved

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Ending was unnecessarily cliche. Would have been more interesting to hear a 1 minute bullshit excuse for why ashi gets to stay, instead of copying gurren lagann.

SJ is cliche all together really. Just simplified shonen shit.

But i guess it does fit a style.

Fuck the past. Not Jack's past. Just fuck everything old.

>>92563372
As a daughterfag I now forgive Genndy.

>Jashi btfo

Feels good.

>>92566407
>Over the garden wall told a better more complete story with much better pacing in half that time.
>Same with the Clone War shorts
>Same with the 2003 Teen Titan's seasons

Did they all come with 4 seasons of baggage?

No.

You don't understand the difference between telling a self-contained story written all at once from start to finish.... vs trying to wrap up an uncompleted project from 12 years ago with tons of different plot elements while still telling a compelling story in itself and retaining the essence of the original work.

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>>92563372
>>92563541
>>92563452
>>92563737
>>92564030
>>92564348>>92564794


https://youtu.be/8CG-N5HfD2k
hot off the shitpress

>>92563415
Bad ending, Genndy is a hack. Also Ashi was literally a time portal, Jack just had to figure out how to turn her on.

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>>92566132
>valid complaints

Oh do elaborate, Anon. Please do.

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It was on hiatus for years. There was no ending Genndy could give that could meet fans' impossibly high expectations.

I learned that when Bioshock 2 came out, and have learned this amazing ability to not give a fuck, and have no expectations about anything.

It made Infinite more enjoyable, it made watching Force Awakens alright, and it made SJ's ending satisfying.

I'm sure plenty don't agree, but whatever. /blog

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>>92566564
>>>/out/

KEK

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I was content. I'd have liked another season so there was more breathing room but it's clear Genndy wasn't going to let CN fuck his series over again. It ended how I expected it to end, Jack goes back to the past and kills Aku.

>>92563372
No
I would end it in a good way

mega where? I missed it, can someone post the link if there is one?

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Shit ending. Rushed as fuck.

Also, did Genndy really have to rip off fucking Gurren Lagann's shit? What the fuck?

>>92563372
It was okay

>>92566635
Exactly.

But autism is a hell of a drug and 4chan is a shrine and gathering place for obsessive autists.

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>>92566635
Expectations were impossibly high for many people (guardianfags especially), but I don't think this ending met reasonable expectations either. We needed another like 10-20 minutes to not have the pacing be utter shit and have a proper ending.

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>>92563372
>How did "you" want it to end?

With new life from the ashes. But, at least, Aku's evil has been prevented and the world saved from ruination.

>>92566261
You have to build that kind of misery. Really cultivate ultimate hopelessness and despair for that payoff of complete emptiness.

It should have been an hour long
It should have been an hour long
It should have been an hour long

yeah it was nice

>>92566803
>that violent diarrhea wasn't shitty enough
>that violent diarrhea wasn't shitty enough
>that violent diarrhea wasn't shitty enough

kill yourself faggot retard

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>>92566556
>Did they all come with 4 seasons of baggage
you never watch the show did you?
But let's say your point rings truth, why introduce Ashi? That's just adding more muck there isn't time for. Why drag that in?
But honestly there was a whooping one plot point that needed addressed:

The guardian's vision

Tell me how much of the season address that in a way that answered what that vision was? Oh right, it didn't, it just wasted 6+ episodes on the stupidest trope of innocent/naive girl is saved by the only man she has ever know.


Again, stop using a piss poor excuse.

There's a time paradox

If Aku dying in the past makes that Ashi didn't exist in the future then she wouldn't be there to make the portal to send Jack back to the past

It was such a lazy ending

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Well, now we know for sure that there's no nesting doll inside Ashi.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13010261

The pacing was fucked. I can accept the little cliches and whatever, but it felt too rushed. It would have been much better if fleshed out over a 44 minute special instead of 22 minutes. Otherwise it was really satisfactory to see Aku defeated.

>>92565841
Season 5 is like if Eva's finale was 6 episodes long.

>>92563448
no it didn't

So aku only truly dies if he gets double killed?
Jack should have revived him just to get ashi back, then the cycle could be implied to repeat.

>>92566883
im still in awe at how shit that ending was

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>>92566635
>There was no ending Genndy could give that could meet fans' impossibly high expectations.
you just told me you have never followed these threads when the revival was first announced. You know what the exceptions were?
1.King Jack is explained
2.Jack gets back to the past
or
Jack saves the future/present

That was it. No one was sitting there last year going "oh boy I hope he gets a wafiu"

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I haven't seen the episode, does it imply Jack will eventually move on and fall in love with someone else? I like Jashi but I don't want Jack to become another Simon.

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>no happy ending
>fucking melancholic ending
>my DVR didnt record, so i had to wait till the west coast showing

im 100% beyond sad and angry

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>>92563372
>Jack returns home
>Ashi's time travel affects Jack so he still doesn't age
>Everyone he knows dies
>Haunted by memories of Ashi and his deceased friends in the future who don't exist anymore
>Decide to live on anyways

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>>92566690
>B-BUT MUH GUARDIAN
>MUH HOUR-LONG FINALE
>MUH GURREN LAGANN
>MUH GRITTY DEPRESSING ENDING

>>92566787
The first episodes of this season was already doing that. If it didn't veer off that, it could have worked.

>>92563372
It has all I ever needed from a Samurai Jack reboot
CLOSURE
No ambiguity, and so, 10/10

>>92566972
it implies Jack moved on but not much else.

>>92563588
Same, pretty much. They did about as well as they could in terms of living up to expectations with the runtime

What pisses me off the most about this ending is that despite having only 22 minutes, Gennedy still managed to find a way to add a shit ton of filler into the episode.

>>92566983
Not arguement

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I WANTED TO SEE ASHI PREGNANT WITH JACK'S CHILD

I WANTED TO KNOW JACK'S REAL NAME

IT'S NOT FAIR

it was fine, but I think it rushed the end-ending too much.

>ok back to the past
>killakutowerexplodesgetmarriedooopsI'mnothere
>ladybug

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>>92563372
it was ok. sorta. we didn't get any closer with all the allies and the Scotsman. We needed an epilogue to show that the future is ok.

>I kinda wanted a bad end, but I'll take a mediocre end.

>>92566868
Could have make more sense if Ashi died in the future and then Jack finds another way to go back to the past

Loved the ending. Not only was it good, but I know much rustling occurred to jimmies because of it.

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>>92567062
this

>>92566972
>>92567031
Jack is a Japanese Prince.

Royalty since ancient times are expected to produce heirs.

Also, Jack still has his childhood sweetheart. You don't forget your first love after all.

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>>92566564
nice meme senpai

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>>92563372
I wasn't ready, guys. It hurt. It really hurt. I wasn't ready, dammit, everything was so beautiful and perfect...WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS GENNDY FUCKING WHYYYYYYY

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>>92563372
It's satisfactory if you apply the Steins Gate theory of time travel.

>Aku's power is creating a new timeline branching off the original
>Jack returning right after the new timeline is creating to kill Aku doesn't negate the timeline, just separates it in its own loop
>Ashi was able to retain her presence in the original timestream using her residual powers (or the "power of love")

>>92564243
Because the fucking well has negative side effects that would have screwed over jack in the end.

>>92566635
I've only seen three or four pre-s5 episodes of Samurai Jack in my life. I found the finale to be a huge disappointment in comparison to the first 3 episodes of Season 5. Nothing after episode 4 could even hope to compare with The Four Seasons of Death.

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Satisfied with the conclussion, but it was rushed as fuck.

>>92563372
Cop-out as fuck and makes Season 5 irrelevant.

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>>92566634

Not that anon but


For a series with lots of scenes where jack spends like... 4 minutes walking in silence to scenery porn or 10 minute battles, the two minute final bout with Aku was a little disappointing.

Pacing in the last few episodes were strange, but that's possibly because of either preconceived notions on what the pacing was "supposed" to be for SJ, back when it was just episodic monster/baddie of the week vs. having a cohesive plot arc.

The pacing picked up as we got closer to the climax, which is all fine...

But instead of spending time on the resolution; we had what, about 5 minutes of screen time for it out of the 3ish hours of run time of 10 episodes?


Silk purses from sow's ears and all. Tbh I wasn't disappointed. Just wasn't wowed.

>>92563372
How I wish it ended, if I could could only change the last episode

>Ashi still has Aku's powers
>Aku still strong enough to keep Jack away from time portals
>fuck it gotta kill Aku
>Ashi cant kill Aku but can prevent Aku from escaping
>Jack cuts Aku down
>Ashi starts to die
>uses dying breath to make time portal for jack
>jack doesn't want to leave her
>Ashi calls him a FOOL
>they kiss
>Jack jumps into the portal
>queue up the same past Aku fight scene minus Ashi
>Jack walks back to his village
>sees his mother and father
>they embrace
>starts telling the tail of his 50+ year journey
>realizes he will never see his friends again
>end with the same butterfly cherry blossom tree scene

>>92566420
kys

>>92567109
>Royalty since ancient times are expected to produce heirs.

This isn't about Jack remaining a virgin because his waifu pulled a Nia but there's been lots of ruling royalty who never produced heirs and just left the throne to another relative or someone else of their choosing.

>>92567046
Christ, I know right? Seeing the reactions of the people Jack helped throughout his journey and the Scotsman's daughters was cute and all, but those could have been cut back to give the fight against Aku more time. I would have liked Jack to fight future Aku with Ashi a bit before going back to the past to kill the weakened Aku.

>>92566950
It's bizarre how the first...two thirds are pretty great, with the world finally rising against Aku, even his daughter, but then the end is just like "okay and he goes home and Ashi dies."

>>92567005
Shame that didn't happen.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc

The only good thing was the aku tv brodcast part.

>>92567062
>I WANTED TO KNOW JACK'S REAL NAME

Never, you faggot.
Its Scar and Wrath all over again.
Fuck you Arakawa you bitch liar.

>inb4 someone posts that meme video about them shouting random names that isn't canon

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>>92566221
translation:

>>92563541
>>92563898
it being GL's ending is neutral, we all know Genndy is a massive fucking weeblord.

the problem is GL does it BETTER, with the disappearing happening immediately after the wedding. and they both knew well in advance and chose how to spend their last moments together.

>>92567255
that was pretty fucking good.

>>92567239
>and Ashi dies.
I'm more amazed how long that took. They rebuilt entire nations Aku took over and had an offical wedding that invited the whole world. That's like a few years at the very least.

Was really hoping future Aku would go to the past and tag team then beat Jack / Ashi.

But before the final blow is struck, Aku's absolute time fuckery shenanigans is his own undoing and he's sucked into some kind of tear in space time while both Aku's blame each other for what's happening.

Aku lives, trapped forever in fuck knows where, Ashi would still exist. Alternatively Ashi could remain not existing.

I am glad he finally made it. But I feel like they could have done it better if they had more than just ~20 mins. Really felt rushed (Ashi's death/disappearance happened in like 30 seconds and Jack just kinda finds peace like 30 seconds later).

I'm fine with the way they did it. I dono why it took me all the way up to ~six minutes into the episode to realize Ashi could send him back but I did finally see it coming.

I'm a little sad it didn't cut to the credits with the old "WHACHA!" and theme song but I suppose it would have ruined the moment.

Overall it gave me closure and I'm happy Jack's long strange journey was not in vain. My biggest disappointment was probably that Jack finally getting back to the past wasn't this triumphant/jump out of your seat moment. ("Fuckin' finally back motherf-oh shit well I guess Aku's dea-aaaaand mission accomplished...")

>>92564174
Oh fucking please. People stomped their feet then like they're doing now. Difference being TTGL has 10 years of rationalizing behind it.

>>92566420
this

>>92563372
EXTREMELY dissapointing.

Ashi should've faded away after Jack kills Aku, this was forced drama and took away precious minutes with the futile wedding preparation.

I would've liked an ending where they kill Aku in the future, but before they travel back in time someone says that if Jack kills Aku, their entire existence is deleted from the universe, so it adds somekind of dilemma for Jack.

This was the worst ending I could've imagined for the series. At least he got back to the past.

I knew this was the most predictable ending and still I was sad. It felt rushed but we knew it would be with so much to cover. I just wish Ashi could have stayed around. Tbh senpai I wish it ended with Jack considering trying to get back to the past to stop himself but I enjoyed it. I am a sucker for these endings happy yet heart breaking.

>>92565648

>Ghibli movie

Don't most of those generally end on a happy note? Maybe I'm watching the wrong Ghibli movies but the general message there is that things can get horribly fucked, but you can also unfuck them if you are persistent, stubborn or have help in really really high places.

>All you cunts thinking that comparing SJ to weeb trash is legit criticism.

Kys

I seriously think the people who dont like the ending are either bitter faggots who hate everything, virgins who are mad cause MUH GIRLS/ROMANCE IN MUH SHOW REEE, or just shitposting.

I wanted it to be an hour long finale, but Im happy with what I got. It was this bittersweet sacrifice. He's finally back but at the cost of something dear.

Im glad the majority of people are happy, it only makes the shitposters froth at the mouth more.

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>>92567168
I agree with you, anon. My question to Genndy is why? Why 10 episodes instead of 13??

>>92567282
Well you can't expect people to just marry just right away

>>92564443
>but now that we see jack just wants to stop aku, why didn't he do that from the get go?

You just answered your own question. He's a moral person, and all of those opportunities before he squandered for heat of the moment hero decisions that he ultimately regretted. Besides, it's not like Ashi gave him much of a choice, she left with him immediately after freeing herself. Jack simply thought it would free her for good if he ended it.

>>92565694
Then he couldn't fuck Ashi because then they would make retard babies.

Kids, never do incest.

>>92567282
>That's like a few years at the very least.
That makes me feel a little better about Jack and Ashi, at least they had that.

>>92567298
>People stomped their feet then like they're doing now
I don't recall most the bitching being that it was poorly paced, bad narrations, and just stupid paradoxes that break their own rules.

>>92566635
But Bioshock 2's Minervas Den was actually good and redeemed the Bioshock 2 itself. Thats not to say Bioshock 2 wasnt fun, but in plot terms it was p. bad.

>>92566865

>But let's say your point rings truth, why introduce Ashi? That's just adding more muck there isn't time for. Why drag that in?

I can't say Genndy's true motivations for introducing her, but I will give you what I saw.

1. There had to be a dynamic between Jack and another character. There were no characters in SJ seasons 1-4 with whom Jack could have a close and personal dramatic relationship with to create catharsis.

2. Genndy himself stated in interviews that the concept behind this final season the (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey) and what happens when a person is programmed for a sole purpose vs a machine. That was displayed in Ashi. She was the vehicle for that.

3. There needed to be some twist, some surprise, some plot element other than what was expected. That USUALLY makes for good storytelling, but this is largely opinion. There is a LOT of nostalgia and adherence to the original seasons in the SJ fanbase, obviously, so I think something predictable would probably have sated fans such as yourself.

>The guardian's vision

That was a complete retcon. I agree. Genndy hadn't actually thought out the ending of SJ at that point. It happens sometimes. However you could defend this in saying that the Guardian's vision was just ONE possible future. Future is not finite, it is an infinite permutation of possibilities.

The Guardian and his time portal were believing in one possible future.

You're free to hate this season. I'm not going to change your mind, but you're incorrect in thinking there isn't any truth in the fact Genndy had a difficult story to write, a very difficult fanbase to please, and that he had complete freedom over the runtime of this final season.

>>92563372
satisfactory for how short the season was. 22 minutes for 10 episodes is bullshit and we got an ending that basically was just him fulfilling his destiny.

King Jack would have been better

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>>92566420

Kys the ending was fine.

>>92563372
I honestly loved it. My heart feels fulfilled.

>>92563372
It was dumb and it was obvious that they ran out of time, but at least it is an ending.

Salty as fuck about the guardian though. That would have been a really cool actual final showdown.

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>>92567353
You don't have to tell me twice!
But in ancient japan...

>>92567353
So she just held out 3 years to die on her happiest day?

>>92567282
Eh, there's a big fucking time gap for whatever macguffin cleans up time paradoxes to get to her.

Probably would have been much more merciful for Jack if she'd perished with Aku, rather than both of them getting a false sense of safety.

>>92567346
Yeah, I guess we should all be grateful we even got a season that was actually good. Of course it was hyped up a ton and fans had over a decade to imagine how it would end. It could never meet the expectations, but it's still cool it got a chance.

>people actually think this ending was good

haha, holy fuck

>>92567349

CN gave him 10. Thats it.

>>92567444
She gave Jack at least ONE blowjob, don't worry.

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I'm still wondering why she didn't disappear on the spot, and how she learned to use Aku's powers so quickly.

i think it would have been a better ending if Ashi couldn't control Aku's powers, therefore making her evil again, and making Jack kill her. i think it would have made more senses then you know, her taking like a week to disappear. (planning a wedding takes time.)

>>92567464
fuck.

>>92567374
then you're not remembering hard enough

>>92567219
This
Why list names, why show a bunch of reactions from people (just have them appear in the fight)
That's an extra 30 second right there

>>92567368
To make you feel even better it could have taken an upwards of a decade considering how well recovered Jack's family looks after the events of Season 1 episode 1. It makes Ashi's death all the more cheap and cliche from a writing perspective but it is what it is.

>>92567333
Yeah you're pretty right. I was thinking about Princess Mononoke and Nausicaa. Where a bunch of fucked up shit happens, everything is still fucked by the end, but ohh well... life goes on.

>>92567389

I totally agree with your thoughts about the Guardian.

King Jack couldve been a result of him not going back when he was supposed to. The Guardian literally says "not yet jack" implying that if Jack went back at a paeticular time before Ashi ported him he couldve become that tyrant.

I swear to fuck /co/ doesnt know how time can work in these situations.

>>92567493
>how she learned to use Aku's powers so quickly.

Pretty easy to explain that as instinctive once they'd been awoken and stretched a bit.

>>92567532
Showing panels has been a staple of the show since episode 1

>>92567463
>wtf, people don't agree with me!

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>tfw just finished a rewatch of gurren lagann a few days ago
>watch the ending to this

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>>92563372
This was supposed to be the tear-jerking ending?

Ashi being a literal plot device on top of being a Mary-Sue by having Aku's powers appear out of nowhere, sending Jack to the past, and not disappearing for at least a week, only for her supposed "death" to be delayed until her wedding and cease to exist because Aku no longer exists in the past?

If Ashi no longer existed, how can Jack still be in the past? Why do Jack and Ashi get the exclusivity of a closure, despite how lazy and shitty it was, while more likable characters like the Scotsman never get mentioned again after the time travel sequence? If Ashi has Aku's powers and can send herself to the past, can't Aku send himself to the past and stop Jack and Ashi from killing his past self?

What an underwhelming ending, my hopes were so high with the first three episodes and I can't believe that a forced waifu ruined everything.

>>92567543
Can't even remember the ending to mononoke othern than
>big deer blob rawr

Only parts I didn't like was Ashi not disappearing right after Aku dying, and the Scotsman introducing all his daughters.

>>92567462
This

Be happy it happened and we got a conclusion. It is more than we could have hoped for. It rekindled my love of this show which I had forgot how great it was. Could it have been better? Yes But that's everything it was a limited run and forced short.

>>92567493
Of all endings they decided to go with the most predictible lazy ass one

>>92567591
Jack is from the fucking past.

>>92563372
Felt rushed. But it was still of acceptable quality. I honestly thought Jack was going to do something foolish to bring back Aku for his love and set up a new series, but it didn't happen. They should have given this more than just ten episodes.

>>92567444
BETTER FUCKIN NOT HAVE

IF MY NIGGA JACK HAS HAD IS DICK DRY THAT ENTIRE TIME THEN THAT BITCH DESERVES TO FADE

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>>92566420
>JACK GOES BACK TO THE PAST NOT BECAUSE HE BEAT AKU, OR BECAUSE HE FOUND HIS OWN WAY TO DO IT, IT WAS ALL BECAUSE OF ASHI

THIS SO FUCKING MUCH

WHY CANT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS

>>92563372
Yeah it's tumblr being mad at Jashi but I still think it applies to the general butthurt on /co/ as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IllSfxDXNvg

Reminds me of my DnD campaign
Oops, we only have 4 sessions left until people will peace out. Here's to trying to wrap up all the backstory elements I've ignored because I couldn't work them into the main plot, here's a bunch of really inspired directions towards the finish line and there's no time to ask questions and it took the final session to defeat the second to last boss, I'll just describe how you all defeat the final boss using the mcguffin

>>92567493
She's a plot-device, Genndy intentionally delayed her death so it can specifically happen in the wedding for low-effort overblown drama.

>>92567493
she was using them while possessed, she just continuted using them after possession

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>>92567493
Because if they made her disappear before the wedding, it wouldn't be a complete rip-off of Gurren Lagann like that hack Genndy wanted.

My only complaint is that Genndy had to rush everything past episode 4 to fit in a cohesive story. If he had the usual 13 episodes, pacing could've been so much better. Episode 10 did miracles with the screen time it had, but still felt rushed. I shouldn't be disappointed, but I am. I loved the long, silent stretches where actions and music did the talking, and it was missing for most of the season.

>>92563372
Why didn't Jack just use the power of the spiral to bring Ashi back to life?

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If nothing else we got a new cutie

So, did Aku truly died this time?

>>92567638
You really think she could survive FIFTY YEARS of semen?

>>92567389
>There were no characters in SJ seasons 1-4 with whom Jack could have a close and personal dramatic relationship with to create catharsis.
You just keep telling me how you have never watch the series with ignorant posts like these.

>There needed to be some twist
He didn't age for 50 years
>some surprise
Aku destroyed all the time portals
>some plot element other than what was expected
he was having fucking external crises with himself to the point they manifested as ghosts of his past.

Ashi wasn't needed.

>You're free to hate this season.
I don't hate it, I'm just being honest of how badly put together it is. That was what we were talking about originally, the "oh woe to poor little Genndy only given 10 episodes to wrap up a show that has about one page of plot material." He fuck up, that's on him and him alone, ten episodes was plenty for it if he wasn't a tool with his writing. Nice goal post moving though. But hey you at least drop that awful excuse so props to that you can be taught.

>>92567640

What the fuck are you talking about. He literally showed Ashi the world and made her understand Akus evil. The deeds of his past changed her and ultimatley ended up making her a good person resulting him getting back to the past.

Are you dense or something.

>>92563977
thx famalam

>>92565685
I'm not going to dig through the archives just to satisfy your autism.

>>92567728
this

>>92567676
shiiiit, I just realised that this was a complete ripoff of Gurren Lagann, what a fucking let down.

>>92567636
But he does back to the past because of Ashi's powers

If Aku dies in the past then Ashi don't send Jack back to the past

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>>92567636
Not him but if Ashi is the reason why Jack was able to get back to the past, and Aku is the reason why Ashi exists(and is how Jack gets back), then by Ashi no longer existing, Jack had no way of getting back in time.

This shit is whack

>>92563372
It was rushed which made the whole thing feel anticlimactic. If it had been a two-parter or a one hour special, it could've had more impact. I liked the ride there, but there's shit throughout the season that could've been condensed so the ending could've had the time it needed.
I'm disappointed, but not entirely unhappy.

>>92567464
Fucking CN, Jesus.

It was fine they really needed more than 10 episodes tho

>>92567736
UR MUM DID

>>92567041
Fuck it.
From now on this is what happened. Not like anything is gonna change it

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>>92563372
>how did (you) want it to end?
with jack accepting the future as the here and now and defeating aku without going to the past. then he becomes king and living the rest of his life undoing everything that aku has built with ashi

>>92567778

Look up Causal Loop, for fucks sake.

>>92567041
Aw, that was nice.

If only we could've gotten more episodes like Gennedy wanted.

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>>92563372
I like it because it opens up the Guardian's possibility to be true.

>Jack ages
>becomes a great king
>the time comes for him to pass rulership to a successor
>leaves on a journey
>comes to the Guardian's portal
>finally defeats him in combat
>uses the gate to return to the time period Aku flung him to, and see how it has changed with Aku removed from the timeline

If I were to do an episode 11, that's just how I'd do it.

Was it explained why Jack never looked like in that vision the Guardian had?

>nerds writing paragraph s about the ending and why it is genius or horrible
It's fine.

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>>92563372
I'm quite satisfied and can now give this show a good rest in my head canon.

>Jack making it back to the past....I called it rather nicely.

>>92563541
credit music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Y00ThKHpw&index=7&list=FLL0ptJ1zkqLEavGeiGAmRuQ

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WHAT THE FUCK

I AM MAD

>Was it satisfactory?
It would have been-
IF JACK DIDN'T GET TWO (2)
WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH IT
I MEAN-COME ON JLUCKY
IT'S THE CURRENT WEEK
TWO SCOOPS?
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
IMPEEEEEEACH

I do kinda wish there was some clarification on what the future was like, and what happened to the others.

>>92567778
The future didn't recognize him.

>>92567885
I hate Ashi's stupid fucking monkey face

>>92567778
This

>>92563619
>if his future friends still exist
they don't, none of his friends exist anymore.

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>people complaining on how the plot was rushed
>people complaining about Jack not abandoning his quest to the past, the one thing he has solely based on for 5 seasons in order to undo the future that is Aku
>people complaining about an anti-climatic battle
>people gloating on how Jashi fans were BTFO

I liked the whole story overall, what makes up for a kind of anti-climatic event makes up for realism. What everyone forgets to appreciate is how Genndy sticks to what would actually happen instead of having something like every showcased mook character and 'leaders' to survive fucking Aku's rain of giant spikes just in time to bring up their anti-evil superweapon of good that does not work against "the pure evil" of Aku. In other words, he does not tend to exaggerate (too much) or underestimate what would happen in an actual scenario. Except for the Scotsman. Scotsman got powers out of his ghostly ass. Still don't hate the Scotsman though. Otherwise, everyone else except for the scotsman's daughters, Jack, and Ashi fucking died in that spike rain instead of surviving unscathed.

>>92563372
>"Oh dear," says G̶o̶d̶ Ashi, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

i feel like ashi didnt really need to disappear, but everything else is pretty much how i imagined it.

>>92567867
nope.
nor any official explanation to why he never aged
nor any explanation why Ashi's paradox wouldn't undo their time travel all together

It's just a shameless callback episode with a overblown forced heart jerking ending that a Chinese cartoon did years ago.

>>92567778
>>92567920
Jack also wasn't aging. Clearly being flung through time in the first place did something weird to his relationship with it. Like time "knew" he belonged in the past but Ashi didn't.

I got Gurren Lagann flashbacks throughout the entire episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPmsigyqInU

>>92563372
It's pretty damn obvious the writers wrote themselves into a corner and realized they had to end it at 10 when they didn't even come close to ending it at 9. The ending should have been two episodes. They should have condensed some of the episodes into one. There was a few of them, dunno which right now, that had no real reason to be a full episode, especially after watching the ending.

The ending was rushed, and that's a damn shame. Oh well.

10 episodes then a movie
right?


RIGHT?!

>>92567778
Timelines are and aren't necessarily connected. If they are under the assumption there is only 1 timeline then the future is him going into the past and this was always his fate. If there are multiple timelines then who the fuck knows you'd be right probably.

>>92563372
I like that he went out of his way to make her appear to live and to even start showing a wedding ceremony only to have her die.
I was laughing pretty hard at that one.
I wanted more epilogue though.
Jack hugging his parents, early scots ancestors greeting jack.
I really loved the intro reference.
Too bad jacks a wizard and a samurai forever.

No king jack too, oh well.
At least we can all agree the gods are dicks.

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Why are people upset about Jack's friends in the future? Aku's reign caused immeasurable amounts of suffering, and opening up Earth to demons and aliens and shit fucked it up worse. Saying goodbye to some bros is nothing compared to a future WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW.

I had a couple of ideas how the show could end, and honestly I didn't want to jinx myself and thought "Nah, Genndy will come up with something better". But, well, here goes, I guess, since you asked

1)
>final confrontation with Aku
>still in the future
>Aku and Jack have a long and brutal fight, like Birth of Evil part 2 with Jack's dad
>victory is uncertain until the end
>then by a series of events Jack manages to get the bets on his side
>Aku is severly wounded time after time
>Jack stabs him one last time, explosion of Aku and he retreats back into the sword
>hits the ground to unleash weakened and miserable Aku
>dramatic shot of Jack standing over him, stare of death
>Aku prepares a speech "So we have come so far..." something, again
>interrupted by the sword entering the frame and landing in his mouth
>desecrating any rules of honour or subtelty, Jack stabs again and again, in a crescendo of madness and fury, bottled up for half a decade, drums beating in the background being the only that's heard, cutting shots back and forth of Jack, Aku, Jack, Aku, Jack, Aku
>one final clang echoes
>all that's left is smoke
>now, Jack can return to the past

>last shot is the enslaved people in the mines looking up to see a silhouette in the sunset
>wacha

(not really fleshed out too much, but you get the idea, to vent out the ANGER, THE FRUSTRATION)

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>>92568032
>a movie about ashi

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>>92567885
>didn't even have a tearful kiss goodbye

>>92567749
>You just keep telling me how you have never watch the series with ignorant posts like these.

So who could have filled Ashi's role?

>He didn't age for 50 years

That's the basic premise, the setup. Not the plot twist.

>Aku destroyed all the time portals

Same as above.

>he was having fucking external crises with himself to the point they manifested as ghosts of his past.

I'm talking about how the series would END. How were those going to end the series? He faces them and overcomes them? You just want Jack solo the entire time? I think that wouldn't have been compelling as the story we got. You sound like a purist.

>I'm just being honest of how badly put together it is.

I disagree. It was compelling, exciting, dynamic, gave something new while wrapping up the huge majority of plot threads and stayed true to the original's spirit.

>He fuck up, that's on him and him alone, ten episodes was plenty for it if he wasn't a tool with his writing.

Not really. He delivered a great production. You're just upset that it didn't do what you wanted it to. That's fanaticism.

Also, not sure why you're so upset that you keep making poor attempts to condescend to me.

>>92563372
It felt rushed and the fight wasn't very satisfying.

They really should have extended it with more episodes.

There's no a "just ok ending"

It was LAME

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>Hey, Jack defeated Aku!
>Oh, but his bitch is gonna fade of existence
>Help him out maybe?
>Nah lol just let her go

>>92563372
I wanted it to be a two-parter.

>>92568026
>whole episode

you mean the one scene that was sort of the same

>>92566564
under R8TD

>>92567778
Ironically, Aku is responsible for Jack being able to get back to the past and thus his own demise.

>>92567917
same. Any side view of her is revolting

>>92567996

King Jack was from a timeline/a consequence of Jack going back to the past earlier than he was supposed to, resulting in a different future.

Jack didnt age because he wasnt in his time. Literally says time lost its effect on me.

THE ASHI THING IS A CAUSAL FUCKING LOOP STOP SHITPOSTING ABOUT THIS

Now fuck off and stop being a retard.

>>92567946

They do. They just don't know Jack anymore but their lives are probably better that way,

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I wanted
>An hour long finale so shit wasn't so rushed
>Have Greg do the dub of the classic intro so the voice isn't so fucking jarring when Aku interrupts it
>For Ashi and Jack to interact as characters while Ashi fights the darkness, not just Jack screaming "I LOVE YOU" and magically killing the darkness controlling Ashi
>Downplay the fucking returning characters battling because that shit took up too much screen time
>To have Jack and Ashi team up to beat Aku in the future as a difficult battle
>Then have Ashi realize she could send Jack to the past with the powers and telling him that she loves him and will never forget him even if this future is erased permanently before flinging him back into the past
>Jack arrives in the past before past Jack is sent to the future so they can team up to defeat past Aku
>After Aku is defeated, Past Jack takes place as the new emperor and future Jack tries to quietly move on when he realizes that the past isn't his home

>>92568146
Wouldn't wanna waste that Spiral Energy.