How's Your Webcomic? #366

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on: https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP


>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

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posted the goodie bag this time, good on ya OP

Reposting progress on redesigns

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>left the notebook where I draw Lido at my uncle's house
Whoops. I'm going back on Wednesday but might have to duck by tomorrow to grab that.

I'm pretty close to done on this one. SAI's been fucking up so that I can't save PNGs directly anymore, so I've been converting from the PSDs, which works alright but is a bit of a jerry-rig.

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finished this yesterday

>>92425146
how long has it been doing that? because I find photoshop starts to choke on pngs from time to time and i just have to reopen the fucker.

>>92425176
The last few times I opened it. It's also been rejecting me saving it as .sai, with a pretty plain "Saving canvas failed" pop-up.

>>92425175
saw! sawesome.
you really need to get on that new discord

>>92425203
oh yeah that's pretty significant. boo. guess it's time for a reinstall or something. why must bad glitches happen to good artists.

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>>92425213
I'm on the old discord, what's the difference

pic is draft 1 of one of the coffee mugs

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>>92425386
my experience in the webcomic land discord.
>@everyone to join voice chat
>@everyone weekly challenge reminder once a day
>@everyone nsfw weekly challenge reminder once a day
>split web comic posts and general art posts into two different channels for some reason.
>people advertising their own shitty servers
>sitting by, watching assholes piss on rookies, driving away a few of them.

only redeeming factor is not having bots, and the old midnight readings of cntl/alt/del

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Been fucking around with a copy/paste jam comic lately while my PC is being fixed.

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Hey guys, we got a new chapter of Boys Land up!
We're starting to get into some exciting stuff

http://boysland.thewebcomic.com/archive/#ch_98870

>>92426011
you get points for the title
>>92426076
you are great!!!

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>>92426076
I really like this. will share around.

>>92426229

Wow! Thanks! I'm glad you like it so far.

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tfw you take a break for one week and forget how to draw comics

>>92425928
sure, but what's going on in the other one that I should be there for

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>>92427262
Capybaras are going on. It's mostly chill and friendly.

>>92427360
What's the name of other chat?

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:^)

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I finished this cancer, and started playing stardew valley rather than working.

>>92427262
not that anon but
>It's more rookie friendly,
>a lot smaller population/less channels, less of a backlog to check on (I'm not joking when I say the pet posting channel is the most active.)
>Mods hold off on the @everyones, there's maybe 1 a week

There's a bot which I was against adding, but I forgot it was there until writing this out so It isn't too bad.

>>92427589
Right now it's just called hyw
https://discord.gg/a34FHz

>>92427804
this is fantastic

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>>92427804
accurate

>>92427835
You're not anon at all, actually. Regardless, why are there two now? Wasn't one insufferable enough? Who's on the other one that is not in wcl?

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>>92427941
I was saying I WASNT that anon he was replying to.

the second one was made cause the server owner didn't like webcomic land.

I don't like webcomic land as well so I joined this one.

I don't know why that anon is trying to shill the server when we have a fine population right now, but I do wish pet posting wasn't the only active channel so I guess the shilling is fine.

>>92428079
I guess wcl became a bit draconian, I remember when Scribbs got the hammer, we all voted for it, then I heard dewd got banned without even asking the rest, and who knows how many others, I was long gone by then, I'm sure I'm banned too.

Is the other private too?

>>92428135
it isn't private, the link just isn't posted to much.

I left WCL a few months ago, it was too toxic for me, and towards me. since then working on my comic has become a lot more fun.

>>92428165
that's the spirit, keep doing you and having fun. don't listen to the haters

>>92428165
Shut the fuck up Mabel, your content was criticized and you were too autistic to handle it because you spent a lot of time on it

>>92427019
Looks good as always! any idea on when your going to start your other projects?

>>92427835
You seriously need to work on your feet, dude. That and your forearms are what's holding you back from being decent-tier.

>>92425928
>sitting by, watching assholes piss on rookies, driving away a few of them
"I don't want actual critique, I just want people to praise me!"
I could even point fingers at specific people.

>>92429120
No one's stopping you.

This is one of the main reasons I don't talk much in social media (Discord)... no offense to webcomic land (I usually lurk to find interesting pieces of art to look at) and the other place well I just don't know if I should bother joining...

I feel if I start chatting on these servers and spend too much time there, that I'll spend less time actually getting better at my craft...

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>>92428806
thinking I ignore/hate crit is retarded
It helps me make my comics better, I redrew days of work just
cause someone here thought it could be better, I have the screenshots of their posts
because what they said has pushed me through not having motivation to redo this fucking page.

I left because that chats members made what I have done to be a waste of time
I've spent months locked away in my room drawing these stupid pictures
trying to make something I could be proud of/enjoy reading.
when I got here, I was drawing circles on top of triangles.
A year and a half later, I can actually be somewhat proud of what ive created.

but then the conversation would come up
>it would start with someone criticizing the art
>Id explain where that problem came from, someone would say i'm not handling crit right, even though id say I would try to fix it
>more and more people would pile up and try to tell me i'm doing it wrong,
>then they would tell me I haven't improved since day one, some saying I've gotten worse

I love what I work on, I've never put more thought into anything than Pam, and Hiroes story
I do it to pass my time, I do this cause I want to make stuff I think is cool.
I hate my life, but drawing keeps me doing.
I'm proud of it.
before I left that chat, I couldn't feel proud of any of it.

fuck anyone in that chat, or in this general who thought It
was okay to make this last year out to be completely worthless

>>92424841
I got the protagonist and antagonist created, to adegree. Now I just need a story. I'm thinking of doing something Samurai Jackish with a technologically achronic setting.

>>92429522
mate, a hug and a kiss don't make an artist draw better.
a slap on the face to reality and a drawing guide does.
Take me for example, im Vutiendung. few month ago, I couldn't even draw right.
I have no style
I can't draw anatomy right
No one like my stuff
Zero fanart
Can't paint a decent background
and I have no understanding of the color theory whatsoever.
but after criticism, I take it and learn from it rather than think people hate me.
Now I can draw even better than before and it only took few months.
I got fanart
I can draw muscle, fat, thin, short and tall people
I was able to get a style of my own
I can draw and design costume and make money out of it
I was able to paint and get a better understanding of colors.
And all that was accomplished by listening to what other have to say and not just dismissed it. Mabel, you got potential, don't waste it like this, come back to WCL, I and the rest will glad to have you back and would help you improve, if you need encouragement, we will give you.
And my friend, don't hate on your life, you got talent, and you should be proud of it, but you can make it even better than before, just listen and learn, I promise you, you will become better than before and when you look back, you will not regret swallowing your pride.

>>92429522
>then they would tell me I haven't improved since day one, some saying I've gotten worse

Are you just trying to get a pity party? That never happened, I even specifically remember telling you that you had made a lot of good improvement, also if you had not wanted critique you could've said pls don't crit me guys I'm working on it, because we're trying to help each other get better by giving constructive criticism but no instead you would get really rude to most the members.

Inb4 h8r, I dont hate you strawbles I just wish you would stop being a spaz when it came to critique and advice, you could get really good and it seems leaving helped so good for you, but seriously stop the full muh webcomicland boogeyman thats middle school shit.

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A bit of a problem /co/. I really want to draw my comic. I really do and can. But. I want to write shojo animu shit because ive actually liked some shoujo ive read in the past. And holy fuck, i cringe at every single panel i put down. Last night, i finished only 4 panels, and needed to lie down in bed and to reflect upon how cringy and weebish it was.

How do i get over this? I still like the overrall plot of my story. But just the beginning, makes me want to cry like I have to be drunk while drawing it.

>>92430099
He's somewhat correct, you have to be willing to get harshly criticized in art.

Man learns from his mistakes and the experience of others. To be honest I haven't been harshly critiqued on here that's why I know that I need to get better.

>>92430176
redraw it, see how well you can improve it this time

>>92430185
Thanks, man, for agree with me.
You will forget a compliment as soon as it pass you but a punch in the gut, you will remember it forever

>>92429522
Congratulations retard, your shitty anime ripoff style got a little bit more refined over an entire fucking year. Its still the same, the glaring issues still exist.

I hope your new hugbox will see through your bullshit like everyone else does. All you did is prove my point.

>>92430176

There's nothing that says you have to be all-or-nothing for one particular style or story or method of delivering your imagery to your readers.

Frankly, while I love anime and manga myself, I find I'm also disenfranchised with an awful lot of it. Sugary sweet moe bullshit is generally awful..

So take some of the elements you do like, and try to combine them with elements from other styles/methods of story telling to make it fit better.

People tend to forget that that is what storytelling is about. Making something your own and telling a story you want to tell, out of the things you like. Not making a 1:1 of something that already exists, or pulling whatever shit you think no one else has ever done before just in an effort to hope someone hasn't done it before.

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Wilfreda the Wanna-Be Witch 117: Victor has some problems with homework.

Mostly a copy-paste strip this time, but I wanted to focus on the dialogue. Michelle is a very patient teacher.

Read more Wilfreda at http://wilfredacomic.tumblr.com/

>>92430510
Damn, son. Calm down

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Working on concept piece about a community of little people (think Borrowers/Littles) that's devastated by the rotting corpse of a "fallen God." I want to set some hard limits on this one when it comes to size, format, and length. Maybe 100 pages or so max.

>>92428135
wow, Scribs got perma'd?

>>92432310
interesting but maybe a bit too similar to beautiful darkness?

also if that's the corpse in the background then the eye shouldn't be pointing in that direction, i think. it's not glazed enough.

>>92432627
Beautiful Darkness is a bit of inspiration, and the shot is totally stolen from End of Evangelion, but narratively it's closer to Gulliver's Travels. The little people are wandering refugees and along the way run into thinly veiled allegories of modern day racism, nihilism, xenophobia, and bureaucracy.

>>92432728
i'd have to see the full story to judge it but probably but honestly so far i have no reason to expect it'd be anything but a beautiful darkness clone. so perhaps think of a better way to introduce this.

>>92432768
The only similarities are a human corpse and little people.

But honestly I am not worried about being thought of as a clone, ripoff, whatever. A lot of stories start off similar, it's the journey that separates them. Like every cyberpunk looks like Blade Runner in the opening scenes.

>>92432890
it's just something to keep in mind, i'm still interested in this so good luck!

>>92432890
post more if you have it, i'm curious about the corpse.

>>92424841
i'm a huge faggot and want to make a webcomic, but don't know how to start or where to post it.

>>92433058
post some art and we'll tell you where to go from there.

>>92430176
Do you mind posting it? What part of it is embarrassing? Is it the dialogue? Plot? Design? Story?

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>>92433123

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>>92433123

>>92433708
Bottom left isn't terrible for the style you've got going on, but you should start by studying art a bit more seriously and practicing more. I'd suggest Hampton's book on figure drawing, or Draw a Box if you want to start from the absolute basics.

Also, you should probably invest in a tablet if you don't have one.

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>>92433756
thanks for the advice.
yeah i should get a tablet, i've been using my laptops touch screen to make shitty ms paint drawings

>>92433881
Yeah, that definitely won't cut it. A nice quality intuos tablet will only run you about 100 bucks, but it'll definitely be worth it if you're serious about drawing a webcomic. A lot of people will tell you that you HAVE to start by studying realism, and that's certainly true if you want to see the best results, but honestly you can just keep drawing what you enjoy as long as you learn the proper foundations of construction and anatomy. In my experience, learning as you go and then focusing your studies on the areas you're lacking in is infinitely more enjoyable than grinding on fruit for a year.

Note that this isn't giving you the go ahead to just draw chibi stuff forever, but for you to start incorporating what you learn into your art gradually as your eyes become better trained to spotting your mistakes.

>>92434122
aight

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>>92434168
how much of a gaffe is to just pause your comic and start a new one midway through?

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>>92434275

>>92434187
If you're in the middle of an ongoing serial that had the last part end in a cliffhanger: a big one.

If it's individual self-contained gag strips with low continuity and any storylines have wrapped up: not at all.

If you're all out of ideas for Old Thing and are bursting with enthusiasm for New Thing, then go and do New Thing.

>>92434275
I think panels 2 and 3 could use some movement lines and sound effects (like "huk huk" "Hwah!"), but otherwise I'm liking the look of this series.

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>>92434326

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>>92434355
yeah, that was preety much what i though

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>>92434423
and that's it for now

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Latest page is up.

>>92433730
Kek
Good dammit /ic/! This meme will never stop.

>>92433730
I find it odd (and amusing) I mention this book once and now its /hyw/'s "git gud" Bible.

>>92427262
it's actually HYW instead of piggybacking on some bigger thing, so we actually recognize each other from here

>>92430171
>That never happened
actually it did. we have some shitposters in here who tend to say that about whomever they think it will get the goat of. And it often works.
>>92434187
I've been enjoying the hell out of it. and not just because the kid is a cute scruffy little guy and I feel for him. though I do wonder why the mom ACTS like a bird when, as she put it, she's "a bird now"

>>92434466
oh fuck, we're actually going to find out huh? I like how your comic doesn't just stay mindlessly funny, but goes places. you also toe a lot of lines that probably should, but don't, piss me off.. because of how you do it

>>92435978
> you also toe a lot of lines that probably should, but don't, piss me off
like what?

>>92436195
oh I think you know.

>>92425112
>literally joins the crew

Is he named Rorenol Rozzo?

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A panel. I've had little time to actually work on my comic. Between school and work, I've been getting some time in, but not enough. A page a day is my goal, but I've been falling behind.

>>92432310
sounds great. nice art, too. are you going to use water colors for the webcomic too?

>>92429522
You do ignore crit though, people were telling you last year to stop doing vertical speech bubbles and you were still doing them a couple weeks ago and people called you out on it again.

>>92437556
Choosing not to obey crit doesn't mean you ignored it.
That said, yeah, the vertical speech bubbles really don't work.

>>92437556
>>92437646
vertical bubbles are fine, it's called experimenting

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>>92429522
>progress
>implying there's ANY progress

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took some time off from my shitty batman comic i posted a week or two ago to practice drawing. this is a lady with boobies I drew today.

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>>92429017
Thanks. Other projects are still in the planning stages, still working on scripts on thumbnails but they're coming along

>>92437848
there's nothing wrong with experimenting, but not every experiment is a success

>>92436688
Yes, but mainly because I don't know how to work with anything but traditional media

>>92425386
The difference is Cold Fusion made it.

>>92437901
No-one likes you, Dobson. Go away.

>>92437848
They're fine when you're writing in kanji which is read vertically. Not in English, which is read horizontally.

>>92438754
looks fine to me

>>92438803
It's not necessarily the vertical shape of the bubble themselves but the execution. The vertical bubbles cause the words to be as low as one per line which confuses most English readers. We're not used to reading vertically. It slows us down. They could make the font smaller and it could work out.

>>92438938
Eh, personally I can read it just fine. I don't think it's nearly as big of an issue as you're making it out to be.

>>92438938
sounds like a personal issue, most people are used to stuff like this from manga. it's not an impediment

>>92434590
is that lucio?

>>92430099
>>92430171
>>92430510
>>92437556
>>92437901
post your art then you can talk

>>92438624
I know this is some trollmarolls, but just for the record.. not only did I not make it, I don't know how. i barely understand Discord or any technology made after 2003. Credit ought to go where it's due

>>92438938
I wouldn't say confuses, it just ends up choppy
like
this
when
it's
one
word
per
line
the cadence is totally lost.
By all means if you've planned out a great panel and there's no room left for anything but a vertical bubble, go for it. But don't go out of your way to do it, and don't use the excuse of another writing system using it, that doesn't wash.

or hey, if you just WANT to, yknow, own that. I'll back you up.

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https://foxandcatadventures.tumblr.com/

I usually make overly dark stuff but this is a webcomic about a cat and a fox living on a hut in the middle of an ocean. They will go on adventures soon.
I can't draw if my life depended on it so I keep it as naive and simple as possible. I make it in Paint.

>>92426247

You're the best! We really appreciate it!

>>92426076

Holy shit you update a lot, that's a lot of pages man. I like that. More to read at a time is cool.

But why should I read this? Besides quantity what does it offer?

>>92440808
allow someone who isnt that guy to give an unbiased review:
it's just FUN. it's a taste of saturday mornings in the early to mid 00s when every channel had a few toyetic anime they'd gotten the license for, and you were trying to piece together how their universe worked, since the internet wasn't really that good at telling you yet.
the action is great, the comedy is effective without being cliche, and so far the pacing is alright. and yeah the update schedule is super impressive

>>92439914
k http://vutiendung.deviantart.com/

>>92428135
No, I actually remember getting banned from the discord by miss melee i think for talking about how depressed I was at the time.

It's the stupidest fucking reason for getting banned ever.

>>92437935
My fucking nigga hell yea this is the type of progress I want to see from you. Keep it up!

>>92437935
To clarify that face needs work though! But still, I see you.

>>92437984
Looking good, can't wait.

>>92441165
As far as I can tell, people don't really miss you there. Just saying.

>>92437935
Reminder that the more lines you add to a woman's face, the older she looks. You should also try to round it out a lot more in the future if you're going for a more typical image of beauty. A squareish man-jaw would work fine if you're going for a brutish warrior woman though. Also, shrink the eyes. they're too big for the style you have going. You shouldn't mix anime with pseudo-realism/caricature. Overall nice improvements though!

>>92441165
Nobody wanted to hear you blog about how you wanted to kill yourself.

>>92441165

It wasn't him.

>>92441165
I guess that's fitting for the fucking stupidest member that was in there

>>92442056
Nobody wanted to hear about wanting to kill yourself nor about hairy pusspuss

C-can we please get back to talking about comics instead of circlejerking?

>>92441779
I really don't expect them to, I hated more than half od the people there by the end of my time there anywho.

Either way, it doesn't seem like those people I'm thinking of really appear here anymore.

>>92442056
I wasn't planning on doing so, I was just talking about how I felt down in the dumps that day.

>>92442078
Meh.

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Finished my piece for the newly released issue of Premier Comics (Which you should read at http://premiercomics.com/archives/1414) and got some feedback from the recent dump of the issue on here that my entry seemed sort of unpolished and unremarkable, which I feel is fair.

At this point I suppose I need to figure out a way to ramp up the work I'm doing while being able to produce it within a reasonable timeframe...Anyone have any experience with this? I'm planning on launching this as a webcomic sometime over the next few months and being able to produce content within a reasonably short span of time is going to be a big factor.

>>92442358
>extremely underrepresented pterosaur, the kind with the weird circle at the end of the beak
awesome
>those legs and feet and the two-fingered wings
.. anyway I like your comics and I'm glad this kind of shit happens. also nice job on the buildin's

>>92442169
Regardless, most people are in there to have a good time between working on their comic, art or writing.

Someone coming in being all dramatic and depressing isn't really enjoyable to be around.
Same thing with how Mabel always blog posted personal stuff and emotions all of the time.
Having to share a chat with that isn't fun.

>>92440808

I feel weird answering this about my own comic because since it's mine, I can't really give you a truly honest answer because I'm too close to it.

But here goes; it's an homage to the stuff we grew up watching in the late 90's and early 2000's mixed with saturday morning cartoons and shounen manga. It's literally everything we like. (We being the artist and myself.)

>>92440892

Thank you so much! I really appreciate this review even though it wasn't really meant for me. I would love to hear any critiques from you specifically if you have the time. Either way thanks for reading!

>>92442423
it's kinda hilarious how similar they are, down to their need to namefag.

>>92442423
that's why this discord has an offtopic room as well as a 'webcomic autism' room for posting your emotional shit. most of the time though people PM that shit if I encourage them to talk about some shit while I have the time to listen.

>>92442125
No. This is where we are now.

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>tfw you spend weeks on loomis and you still draw like shit
what's the secret?

>>92442423
Well, I mean, it's not like I constantly did it, it was just a one time thing.

>>92442959
Draw like shit and just call it your style like >>92440250 does.

Just do your thing, man.

>>92442959
Don't just study Loomis, draw stuff you enjoy and want to draw as well. Plus, improving your art could take months to years of work.

>>92442959
Feedback is your best friend. Get feedback from people that are better than you, so they can tell you what you're doing wrong, because odds are they had the same bad habits/mistakes you're having at one point.

>>92443001
Why are we shitting on each other so much in this thread, just make some damn comics.

>>92443200
Too many people keep fighting advice in an advice thread. People get pissed at said behavior.

>>92441298
>>92441322
>>92441809
appreciate it immensely guys. I've been really trying to get better and you definitely gave me good stuff to keep in mind going forward so thank you!

I'll keep popping in with some progress as i can make it.

>>92442959
you need to get taste and make your bad drawings as appealing as posible

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>>92424841

hey every body i just got finished making a brand new page of FATES CHAOS! I hope yall like it! I just finished it literally a few minutes ago, so its super hot and fresh! ^^

heres a video of me making this page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2M2lG6RYr8

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What does /co/ think of this webcomic?

A boy falls in love with a girl.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.

>>92443200
some are trying to get a rise out of others
others are trying to make the threads as good as possible
still others are trying to modify what some of the others did, to try to temper it a bit, so it doesn't get too carried away.

>>92444051
>>92443200
Actually, I called myself shit. Because it's true.
I still enjoy what I do and it's great to see others like it as well even though it is not "up there" regarding the talent.

>>92443387
maybe you're giving bad advice

>>92443886
At first I was like
>A boy falls in love with a girl.
>MEH
But then your storyline actually sounds really interesting if you can write it. Your art is nice, too. I'll happily read it, ya weeb.

>>92444359
that's not the comic's creator, but it is a pretty good comic

>>92444359
It's a meme you dip

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>>92440250
A comic on /hyw/ I actually like, that doesn't happen everyday. Good job.

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>>92443886

>>92444621
I think you're making a compliment. Thanks.
What is /hyw/? Did I get meme'd on?

>>92444359
Found the newfag.

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>>92444699

>>92443886
Already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/keit-ai-finds-a-way/
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebOriginal/KeitAi
http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825

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>>92444731
pls don do this to me

>>92443886
Has this been updated yet? Post the link at least.

http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825

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>>92444731
>>92444781
Oh, shit, I read it as "A comic /hyw/ would like". Now I feel stupid.

>>92444351
Maybe so. Then ignore it. Quit fighting.

>>92443886
Is this still a bannable offense on /a/?

Let's breathe some life back into the purpose of this thread. What are your methods for designing characters' outfits? Personally, I like trolling through Pinterest to find new fashion and designs I feel would fit well.

>>92446820
it's over jimmy, let it die

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trying to make a basic "shape" for my comic's Logo. Trying to decide on a subheading for it as well. So far I got.

-Vegabond: Cracking the Omnisphere
-Vegabond: Sphere of influence
-Vegabond: Initiation

If you have any ideas that would pertain to snakes, outer space, all seeing eyes, black holes, spheres, illuminati, a villain named GRAWLLUX, starting a new way of life or polar opposites I'd like to hear them.

I would just call it "vegabond" but I have a bit more planned for this universe and don't want any of them to be definitive or have a chronological order.

>>92446820
I tend to zero in on a single thing, like a particular kind of collar or boots or something offbeat like capelets/caplets, and then make a note to myself to start integrating those into otherwise normal outfits. the best clothes are only partially offbeat.

>>92447580
what does the subheading represent this time? also I thought the comic's name was duplex
hmm things relating to snakes and crazy cosmic space shit... i feel like you can work ophidian into there, possibly combining it with something

>>92442959
>weeks
That's not a long time, my dude. you gotta be patient with yourself and accept learning as a process, don't pin your gold star on one method or a fantasy of success. study techniques, study different artists that you like, study life, study form, and place pencil to paper (or pen to tablet, whatever) at least 5 times a day.

again:
>weeks

learning something hard takes years.

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>>92447799
I've been posting stuff from my comic project Vegabond, and my animation project Forgotten Gaming. My username is Duplexide though and my narrative/mascot character is named Dupe. I used to use Duplex as a name on here before I solidified all that.

And as for the subheading the story is about a small group of people who run away from their homes in search of a better life among a sparse faction called the vegabonds that balances between two massive opposing factions with opposite agendas. The group's plans are ruined by a horrible snake like beast called Grawllux who much like them is trying to join a faction except his is much more malignant and evil and is a sort of space Illuminati that's trying to control everything through surveillance and time alteration.

So something that kind of ties into that rough plot is what I'm looking for.

>>92448145
I just could have sworn we'd seen a different logo before, and the name vegabond isn't ringing any bells.
>that description
sphere of influence, then. definitely.

>>92446820
Most of my characters are teenaged girls so I used to go to Wet Seal but it died. I guess Forever 21 will do.

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>>92448192
You're probably thinking of this animation background I did for Forgotten Gaming a while back.

>>92448340
yeah that was it
so that's basically just for the website, not for the comic itself then?

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>>92448538
That background is for some partially animated game reviews I'm doing with the same visual aesthetic as the comic I have planned. It's called Forgotten Gaming and in it I'll be reviewing my immense collection of shareware and abandonware games from the 90s. After I get some kind of following for my art via the game reviews I'll be launching the Vegabond comic itself. It's a "quest" style comic that needs audience input so doing it before having any kind of significant readership would just be depressing.

>>92443886
>>92444359
>there are people on this board right now who don't know about the Keit-ai meme

>>92449016
/co/ is filled with normans and tumblrites

>>92448759
that's.. a really clever idea. kinda like how there were a few homestar cartoons before the strong bad emails started up

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>>92448759
nice that you have a plan, keep at it, you're gonna make it. pic unrelated

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>>92449144
>>92449237
Thanks! And yeah, I figure unfortunately there aren't a lot of people who avidly look for webcomics but there are loads of people who watch video game reviews on youtube so it's a viable "advertisement" in a way. And also If I have 2 projects going then I'm twice as likely to have something take off. If the video reviews get popular but the comic doesn't then I still have a successful project on my hands.

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Finished this page!

I actually had to cut a page from the script right before I started working on this one.

The origional page 24 was just some stupid fanservice of Annabeth landing on Jack and noticing he has a boner. then awkwardly getting off of him. Either way, this is what page 25 would be. I just switched up some dialouge that reffered to the cut page and fixed up actions that happened and it's like nothing was cut at all.

>>92451212
cords*
preposterous*
somewhat* one word
courteous*

i'm kind of liking this new anna, whatever's posessing him or her.

>>92451212
>4 years
>art still an awful mess
this is why you don't neglect your Loomis studies, take heed /hyw/

>>92451285
>Loomis
Are we just going to turn into a second /ic/ now

>>92451267
Well that's good, I wanted annabeth to be the same, but also different at the same time, And I'm glad people are not totally missing red eyed annabeth

Because it's gonna be a few years until we see that again.

>>92451428
I didn't say I didn't miss regular anna, and I don't see any even remote similarities here. I thought the idea was posession or something

>>92451486
This Anna, while still being posessed is stil there own person, just smarter.

But the basics are still there, the slightly longer, but still short temper, addiction to biting, the bloodlust, it's just more mellowed out and calmer than before.

>>92451649
oh okay. if you put it that way.

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Working on simplifying character designs. I seem to just be slowly moving towards Douman Seiman style though. Not sure if this is what I want honestly, but at least it's good practice.

>>92452418
lmfao

>>92452418
wwell I love the face

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i made a comic

>>92453173
snert

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>>92452418

>>92453173
Heh
I'm liking your stuff so far

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>>92447580
Developed this a bit more. subheading is still gibberish for the time being.

>>92453359
waifu

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Might as well drop this colored version of a pic of my mc I posted last thread. Colors are very fun but I really want to stick with greyscale for this project

>>92453830
Noice, are the characters for that gibberish actually a code or something?

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>>92442959
made an accuracy tweak

>>92454479
Now he's crying tears of joy

>>92454234
Did you draw this? She's beautiful.

>>92454234
Wait, hold on. That's just... no.

>>92454234
Nessie?

I leave for one second and you guys do this shit.
>>92442103
Fuck you.>>92442113
Fuck you.>>92442056
FUCK YOU.

>>92441165
You're good, idiot, keep it up, but don't get focused on the fucking details. I tell you every time I come here, god damn it.

>>92425112
This fucking rules. You rule.
>>92425146
I can't read this, but it's good. You've got the idea.>>92425175
Good!>>92425176
>>92425203
JHave you tried going slower, idiot?

>>92425213
Don't force things, you fucking idiot.

You're all doing really well, ok?

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>>92442959
>spend weeks trying to draw some good stuff
>pic related happens

>>92454630
FUCK! I GOTTA GO TO BED! I LEFT MY BOY BY ACCIDENT! I'M SORRY! g-gotta fly

>>92454535
Yep, thanks

>>92454549
I'm Household Slime Mold guy, but since I started posting about a second comic here I figured I might as well namefag with my actual handle instead of my comic's name.

>>92454689
Hmm. Do you have to say that word? I understand if you do, but it's really okay.

I need to go to bed, okay? You're doing great, and so is, um, um, um, Victoria.

You're all doing really well, okay? You're going to make really wonderful things. I love you all, but I can't be here anymore.

Sayonara. You know where to find me.

what the fuck is going on

What's your opinion on newspaper-style half tone coloring?

Can a webcomic pull it off well? Or does it come across as being too tryhard?

Is there a secret to it because I want to start doing color but I can't make it look good

>>92454848
a triggered autist is going full retard to try to manage his butthurt

>>92454932
I forgot to eat today. I forgot to eat. But my... my boy is making me eggs. Okay? He's a good boy. He's a little guy.

>>92454757
What

>>92454850
You mean like the kind used in sunday strips? I suppose it could work, but why would you want to use it? It seems more difficult than doing normal colors, especially if coloring is already difficult for you. If you showed us some of your coloring we could probably give you some pointers and hook you up with some tutorials/guides.

I'm sorry. I gotta get outta here.

>>92432341
I was there when it happened. I remember he had that stupid idea of only taking crits in private while in the threads, and we had a good fun at his expense, but I don't recall him being that insufferable on the chat, still, we all voted for him to leave because we didn't want drama in the chat.
Right now, I've been told the chat is stale as fuck, that only a handful post their works, and the rest are just too busy blowing each other off.

>>92441165
Last time I was there, people was trying to shield you from that guy sean or something, because he was a super sperg, so when I heard you got the boot, I was thinking what the fuck did you do to get the boot too.

>>92454932
Be more specific, that's going on in like 90% of the threads at any given time.

>>92428135
As someone who left a while ago, I've never seen the mods on WCL ban anyone who didn't fully deserve it.

I can't draw very well, I am much more of a writer than a penciler. Should I Marvel method some storyboards for people/artists or should I just focus on making good scripts? Some combination of both? What would you artist types rather get from a writer?

>>92457775
If you're only a writer, don't storyboard anything. Let the artist read the script and see the page in their head. If something's not at all how you envisioned it, obviously you can ask them to change it, but trust the visual storyteller to know how to visually tell a story.

>>92457909
I would do both. A comic book writer should know how to storyboard just like a cartoon writer should know how to storyboard.

>>92458032
I've talked to an artist and they said they'd rather have storyboards so they know what exactly they're drawing, and it helps the writer so he can just draw the basics and imagine it in the artist's style.

I've read up on how Stan Lee and other people used the Marvel method to just make plot points and write the dialogue, then ship it off to an artist. I was wondering if I should do that and compliment it with page-by-page storyboards, and give that to an artist instead of a script?

>>92454549
:)
>>92455432
>sean
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that guy, he was quite the goofball.

He was also the first and only person I've ever blocked on discord.

Quick,

describe the important groups and factions in your setting. How do they interact with each other?

>>92458215
There is a cat and a fox. They have to get along with each other because all they know is each other. And then there is the great unknown.

>>92458215
The nutkins live in the grove by the lake. They're a simple, rustic folk.

The valleykin live beyond the boundary, where the grass is thick and predators roam. They find the nutkins too sentimental and the hillkin soft.

The hillkin live on the coast where they collect salt from the cliffs. Some claim they've seen gods in the distant, giants that number 30 littles tall or more. They're technologically advanced, "sophisticated," and care little for the simple folk who live in the trees and grass.

>>92458715
I wish I could upload my picture but 4chan isn't letting me so great.

>>92458215

>The Children of Autumn - A Group of people who's main ideology is that the only way for humanity to survive in the harsh world is through machine enhancements. I.E. Replacing damaged limbs and organs with machines. Are indifferent about The Land Dancers so long as they leave them alone.

>The Land Dancers - The main religion in the world. Believe that only through worship of the Gods and nature itself can humanity flourish. believe that the Children of Autumn are heretical.

>The Godless - The extremist side of the Children of Autumn. Took machine enhancements to the ultimate level by completely replacing vast amounts of flesh with metal. Most were driven mad by the process. Everyone hates them.

>>92458215
They just really like to throw drinking parties together.

Trying to upload something, but 4Chan failing the upload no matter what. :(

>>92459355
yeah it's been like that.

Before, nobody could post anything. Use imgur.

>>92459482
Alright then.

http://i.imgur.com/RCcotPe.jpg

I'm trying out that "Mobile Friendly" comic format, it's kind of weird, but i figured it'd be better to storyboard directly for it, instead of butchering a normal page to fit the vertical style.
Here's intro sequence from a very short story (about 10 pages) i'm working on, mostly as a technical test, as you can see it's a WiP (have to add balloons, as well as polish up some stuff, panel borders, color the outlines, etc).
Just posting to get some opinions.

Good to know, then, here's what I did today. Hoping to wrap this one up soon.

http://i.imgur.com/yqsCNAB.png

>>92424841
My favourite page was from an older work (2008) called Selenite, which kinda started the introduction, and then pretty much stopped- In any case, in this page, both MCs mock a side character for being a computer/technology illiterate. I don't think it's my best work, or the funniest, but I love this page regardless.

http://img2.smackjeeves.com/images/uploaded/comics/4/d/8/4d8089a13jMo1.jpg

As for character, I'd say Leslie from my current work, but her shinier points come from lampshading Johnny's shittiness, so, without him, she'd be a pretty boring character, I guess.

>>92459669
that's pretty fuckin' beautiful anon, evocative backgrounds+lighting are something i think go ignored in a lot of work, and the characters are easy on the eye

the kind of stock expressions take me out of the moment though

>>92458215
The chozen- they keep tabs on which catagory of ghost that they are possesed by (usually catagorized by color) and they sometimes give them tasks to complete.

The dark guild- group of villians who are organized by how much of a threat they are (ranked from levels 1-10) and rank heroes they oberve and then match them up with a villian of the same rank to make the hero suffer as much as they can with out killing them for there dark lord who feeds off of suffering.

>>92459669
Nice job! what's next? for making comics I mean.

>>92459767
Oh, thanks.
By "Stock expressions" you mean the face she does when shot from below? Or just in general? I forgot to mention that the moment is supposed to be (as hinted at, by the last two panels, i guess) a bit of a parody of anime romance, the story is actually primarily action (which is why the title card is the way it is), so that's why i pushed a bit the "uguu" factor, but i don't know if that's what you meant.

Also, i should add that my usual style tends to be a tad more realistic, so i had to adapt a bit here (bigger heads, simpler shapes, and all that).
Some of those hands close ups are still a bit out of place, for that reason.

>>92458215
Uhh.. well there's different kingdoms and stuff, but generally it's every man for himself.. carving out a niche in the world however he can.. there's adventurers handling quests of varying sizes, but there's also just mercenaries doing normal guard work for lower-level shit below that that doesn't qualify as a quest.. and then there's fuckin wizards and shit above both of those levels who take care of the major crazy cosmic whatnot so nobody else has to. then there's other planets.. and also hell.

>>92459763
Whoa, you managed the pixel sword! awesome! did you do it the same way I did, or did you do it the smart way?
>Selenite
oh hey I really like this

>>92460065
yeah, the shot from below, your style is great otherwise

i suppose if you're trying to use the classic "confession at sundown" scene with all the trappings, then it's fine. given that you're kind of segueing into some "N-NANI'-type reveal

>>92454549
>telling dewd he's good
loving every laugh

>>92460005
You mean what i'm doing after this short story? I have a bunch of stories i was sitting on for a while, so i'll do one of those.
Before i jumped in them i wanted to test the pipeline with something lighter.
And i'm still not 100% sold on this vertical format thing.

You can do interesting "endless" vertical pans, but you lose a lot of things you could do on a regular page, too.

>>92460270
Yeah that's the idea, although i don't want it to sound like "lol, it's SUPPOSED to be bad!"

>>92460188
I made a pixel sword, Duplicate its layer, move the lower layer down-left, unify the edges to give depth, and colour the lower layer all grey. I'm sure there are easier ways to do it, but that's what I came up with back then.

>>92460590
Haha! that's exactly what I did!!

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>>92455097
Yeah, like those. My original concept was that it was styled like a newspaper comic, and I figured this might be a good way to do it.
It's not so much that normal coloring is "difficult" for me per say, it's just that I'm not sure how to make it look less generic, since giving the color a bunch of shading/highlighting/detail looked really out of place when I tried it. Curse my cartoony drawing style.

One the one side is how I'd usually go about coloring it, and on the other was experimenting in photoshop, that being the best result I could get. Ignore the speech bubbles missing.

>>92461389
it really doesnt go with color. especially this way, where it lightens everything.
if you are going to do tones, make it the way newspaper comics do, with the dots being one color and the background being another (it's amazing thinking that people used to have to do that by hand, cutting out each color shape)

>>92461435
and also yknow thinking about the tone combinations they had available.

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>>92424841
Meant to post this earlier but the site went weird, finally finished my first webcomic page, first time posting on these threads too~

>>92462139
cant make heads or tails of it, but the clean chunky style is pretty cool

>>92462139
The style is cool, but I literally can't tell what's going on

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I'm a failure, aren't I?

>>92462486
nice interface

>>92462486
>not drawing right now this instant

Yes, you are.

DRAW ALREADY WHY ARE YOU WAITING DO IT NOW

I'm trying to convince my friend to let me post her comic, its pretty funny and is about a Minotaur girl living in a modern day fantasy world. Shes a slacker, awkward, nerdy girl who is perpetually single, and is best friends with an extremely sexy vampire girl.

>>92462612
I fucking love that idea. Tell her I love it and I'll probably draw fanart.

wait it's a proper minotaur, right? not just a humanoid cow. i mean I'll still read it, but I'll be disappoint

>>92462689
Shes a proper minotaur, big, bulky, kinda dumb.
I doubt she'll let me though, all she does is draw porn on /b/ lol. Let me see if she'll at least let me post a pic of the character.

>>92462816
excellent. not that i dont like humanoid cows too, it's just not the same thing.

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Is the uploaded working?

>>92463872
twould seem so

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>>92463865
My friend corrected me, Shes something called a Maulotaur.

>>92465184
it's shit, fuck your friend

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Like my characters /co/?

>>92465184
Wonky anatomy, but charming. I think your friend should try to polish up her lineart and anatomy skills and she could really make this into a memorable character.

>>92465496
She just sketched it out for me really quickly, she doesn't finish much of her work anymore since she lost her job as an animator.

>>92465532
>job as an animator.
lmfao are you both 13?

>>92465184
well that IS a humanoid cow, but oh well. still a comic i'd read. she looks really cute and awkward and nerdy

>>92465286
left guy kinda, right guy yeah!
>>92465701
jealous kids are taking all our jobs?

>>92465701
She was a 3D animator for a small game company.

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>drawing with perspective in mind

>>92465823
did you draw that with your tongue?

>>92465823

I think you misunderstood what perspective means

>>92465532
>she lost her job
no wonder when she draws like that

>>92466238
Nah, I used my Bamboo tablet.

>>92466419
My perspective is looking forward to see this panel finished.

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>>92458215
>Aleutian Military Land Forces Reconnaissance Command - Research and Intelligence Group
main characters' faction, hired as foreign advisers to aide a government transition.

>Soyus Ministry of Intelligence
works primarily with the main characters while they are in-country. they use the king and queen as figureheads to gain support for the new government they are trying to establish from under them.

>New Monarchy Loyalists
terrorist group who are loyal to the old monarchy, and are very close to causing armed conflict to preserve it against the new government.

>mercenaries
hired guns by the real estate companies who are expanding in Soyus.

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why is digital painting so hard anons?

>>92467531
it's hard to get the blending settings right. There's two basic kinds you'd like: either soft mixing as if airbrushing, or a kind of smearing as if you were using thick paints. art programs dont seem to want to do the former, and the latter is hard to use anyway because you dont have sort of directional knife control, plus it's incredibly resource-intensive

i had a program whose painting ability was fucking great. I mean, I still have it.. but it's shit. but the painting was great.

>>92458101
If the artist needs storyboards they're not a very good artist. In that case, you will probably have to do it for them.

There's a part early in Bakuman (basically an autobiography of the creators of Death Note) where they can't understand why the comic keeps coming out so bland. Eventually they work out it's because the writer is putting scribbles for how the page will look despite having no knowledge of composition, eye flow, perspective, etc. When he stops doing that and the artist tries just reading the script and seeing it in his head, it comes out more interesting.

>>92467531
Values are WAY too dark. I assume this is all supposed to be metal, so look at metal. It SHINES.

>>92468230
the heck are you talking about

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>>92462446
>>92462431
Thanks bros, that one's a flashback and the comic is going to have kind of an ongoing mistery, so that page is more weird and disjointed and intented to make full sense until later in the story, my next pages have more traditional, lless cryptic narrative tho!

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>>92443874

is 4chan working again yet? been trying all day, finished a new page but first heres a fixed version of this page.

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>>92468745

ok, its working, check this out yall, a brand spanking new page of FATES CHAOS i just finished a few seconds ago!

*And heres the video of me making this page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXDYkU4b2LQ

>>92468772
Those last two panels are gold

>>92468772
Those scribbly-scrawly outlines make it look worse than it actually is.

>>92468836

the wild scribbly lines are on purpose because i want it to look and feel like the wild west, ay know?

so do you like it now?

video related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m59UM1iFu-c

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>>92467531
I tried doing a paintover to give you some tips, hope you don't mind. The first thing I noticed about this painting was that you had a fairly limited value range, which can often result in your painting looking a bit muddy. Using a wider range of values can help make the forms of your subject clearer as well as help the whole composition pop better.
Secondly, I noticed you had some variance in your hue choices, though they were very limited. I honestly first though this painting was in greyscale when I first saw it because the hues are so desaturated and unvaried. if you're going to use color and not just greyscale, try varying up the hues some more to bring out the contrast between your highlights and shadows.
Lastly, you seem to be working with an unnecessarily small brush for some of this painting. Areas like the shading and the helmet and collar seem to have been scribbled in with a tiny brush. When painting, always work large to small, use large brushes to cover large areas, and go smaller and smaller as you fill in the details. If you use a small brush for everything your shading will look rather messy.

>>92468817

thanks ^^

>>92468410
What part didn't you understand?

>>92469018
_No

>>92469033
Holy shit anon, thanks! i've only ever done sketches, so all of this is pretty new to me, saving your tips for later use

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>>92465823
Alright, alright. That shelf is even too wonky for what I'm going for.

>>92469018

ya know*

>>92468410
ironically the writer of Bakuman creates storyboards for that very manga. you can always make shots more efficient or interesting from the initial draft. a comic writer should be able to storyboard in my opinion, even if they and the artist decide to work the way you proposed. there are skilled illustrators that don't have comic specific knowledge. if you can board as a writer you will have better chances at finding a partner. you will also be able to review the flow, pacing and page composition. a comic writer who can't do that is not a partner i would want to work with

>>92468410
>If the artist needs storyboards they're not a very good artist
I don't think that's a very hard and fast rule. some will work well with storyboards or thumbnails, while other won't depending on how the artist chooses to work, or like you mentioned, how well they are trained with composition, eye flow, perspective, etc.

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I hope you guys are hyped for the West Tree OVA coming out 2018 animated by A-1 studios!

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So I was thinking of starting a webcomic for quite some time.
Pic related is a group of characters I drew recently but not the actual character from the story I want to webcomic.
Should I work on my anatomy and backgrounds more and publish a webcomic later, or just jump in now that I completed thumbnailing the first chapter?

>>92471085
jump in, get experience

>>92471085
you're good enough right now. you can draw serviceable 3/4ths characters. now it's time to work on various anatomical things, other poses, and all that, and all that. i already like these people
one thing is you're drawing arms slightly too short. remember, elbow is at the bottom of the ribcage, and hand is in the right position to masturbate. slightly below crotch level at your sides, which obviously shortens as the arm moves inwards because a diagonal distance is always longer than a direct distance, Billy!

>>92468475
Damn, that looks nice. The only thing convincing me it's not some official published artwork is the fact it's got phone rotation syndrome.

Does anyone else despise lining? It's a lengthy process, and feel like at this point everything in development slows to a crawl because you're left highlighting all the mistakes you've made. I feel like I'm spending hours lining one figure trying to get everything looking as presentable as possible, but in the end it's just holding me off from working on my other characters.

>>92472727
you mean like inking? i kind of enjoy it, it kind of allows me to do things like correct mistakes or define areas that i couldnt get in the initial penciling stage.

>>92472727
It's the part I like best actually.

fuck inking and fuck comics

>>92469293
My nigga what is point perspective omg get it together and try again.

>>92474699
fuck perspective, picasso didn't need it

>>92474747
Don't make my post Picasso the dude had a third eye for this shit since he was a youngin mane you can't compare, sorry.

>>92474747
>picasso didnt need it
he sure as shit took the time to understand it before butchering it. not knowing how2perspective is no excuse to not learn it.

>>92474747
>>92474871
Plus it'll make your work look more professional like something right out of wind Waker bro.

>>92474854
>>92474871
>>92474922
Perspective is fun, you dirtbags, don't make it sound like a chore. Just go through perspective made easy, and once you get a feel for it, just draw by eye, don't measure out perspective lines every time you draw. You can experiment with it and have fun. For example I like to curve the lines coming from the vanishing points to make a psuedo-fisheye-lens thing.

>>92474871
that doesn't really help. it just made it more infuriating
he should have said van gogh didnt need it. then we'd point out he was probably stereoblind and definitely mentally ill, and died penniless

>>92475005
Life is a fucking chore

>>92475005
i actually hate that effect but I know just what you mean. perspective can be fun! but it's a lot easier to bullshit it in a simpler comic. anything less than perfection doesn't mesh well with realism

>>92474509
"I am down to a pencil, a pen, and a bottle of ink. I hope one day to eliminate the pencil. "

-Al Hirschfeld

How to get good at perspective

-Learn Sketchup or other simple 3D modeler
-Model your environment in 3D using simple shapes; boxes and spheres and shit
-Set the perspective/angle you want
-Trace over it

Perfect perspective every time.

I finished my first draft. 352 boards total. I never want to draw again, Jesus Christ.

>>92475979
NGMI

>>92475979
are you sure that's the wise way to go? you're going to feel bad if any of that effort was wasted. if you're a pro though then obviously no problem

>>92476014
I should clarify that I am not the artist. I'm the writer.

>>92476039
ah okay then. well i hope nothing major comes along during the art and revising process that means you need to revise a ton of it

>line wasnt closed
>accidentally blackface a character
>it looks great
no wonder that was so popular

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>Thought I can freehand perspective
>Can't

Fuck

>>92476791
other than the shelf on the left, which merely looks like it's crooked in-universe, looks to me like you succeeded. what's lookin wrong?

>>92476791
looks fine to me

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I'm thinking I may need to come up with some different proportions but I'm liking this direction.

>>92477165
whoa, a wild cutie appears. i love your style and instantly want fanart from you
it's not the proportions though, it's more... the joints and how they're set up. her elbows are too far down the arms and obviously you were just sketching out because you didn't finish the hands, that's fine.. but really that's one hell of a bowleg syndrome. i think it's kind of hot actually, but it's sticking out like a sore bum. i mean i like a thigh gap but that's ridiculous

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>>92477194
Yeah I'm trying to figure out proportions that I can draw consistently. The wide gap style is easy and quick but I'm not used to it so I'm kinda iffy on weather or not I should use more realistic proportions have have it take longer or not.

>>92477429
yeah i can see you have only a loose grasp on proportions since this one is way more off than the other one.. but that's okay. you're clearly in the 'working on poses' mode right now. proportions are really easy to fix digitally.

>>92476791
First panel looks good enough, but why free hand it, when many programs have perspective tools? Clip Art is also pretty cheap, often around 20$.
It's just Photoshop that is shit and boneheaded in that regard, so people stick to absurd methods just to not jump ship. (like using the star tool)

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yay comic
crammed a lot of dialogue snips in here I'd been wanting to use.
I'm fucking sick of drawing these cenotes now.
this isnt much of a joke but it was a lot more boring before I inserted a lot of last minute dialogue that I think peps it up. plus that last panel had almost none of that in it until the last minute when I saw blank space and panic'd. almost asked you guys for advice. yknow for a COMIC strip, I often forget that random physical comedy is always welcome.

>>92477590
I'm actually pretty good with proportions but I've been slacking on figure drawing lately so I'm trying to get back into that. When I eventually finish a page everything will be way more refined.

The real thing I have trouble with is fight scenes/poses.

>>92477814
that's a trick and a half too.
I've posted it ad nauseum but I really believe in this particular reference book right here. it covers all the important shit about motion and reaction
http://www.slideshare.net/bruno13marques/how-to-draw-manga-vol-23-illustrating-battles

I'm not sure where else to post this, but does Gobolatula actively post on /co/? I just binge read all of It Hurts and I want to tell him he better bring back best girl Aurora.

>>92455651
I left a long time ago too, but I remember that starting on the second ban, admin/mods never asked for everyone opinion. They may have the authority, but it reeks of drunk with power, which sounds hilarious for a place like a chat.

>>92458170
>Goofball
That's one funny way of saying asshole.

>>92459763
This is too animu for me.

>>92466906
Nice job, dude

>>92442959
>what's the secret?

Speding years on Loomis.

On the bright side, you will likely still be relatively young in your late 30’s or 40’s when you master it.

>>92454234
Who the fuck wear labcoat and miniskirt?

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sketch i completed, not done yet but can you guys critique me as hard as possible

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Here's a new Wilfreda the Wanna-Be Witch strip. Show and Tell time at school. Wilfreda brings her pet at class.

Her pet is a cactus.

Read more Wilfreda at http://wilfredacomic.tumblr.com/

>>92472727
Have you tried just colouring in the sketch layer?

>>92479502
If this was meant to be just a very rough sketch you'd then draw over, you went too hard with those lines, it'll be a bitch to see anything when you're done with everything.
Aside from that, i'd say just use a ruler next time, and maybe if you're feeling ambitious, try to apply a camera angle that requires a bit more perspective work, it's gonna be that much harder, but that's how you actually improve, by trying to do things out of your depth, and learning from the inevitable failure.

If this was supposed to be an imposing moment for example, a 3 point perspective with vertical lines converging upwards, would've sold it much better than a flat shot like this one.

>>92470620
Is he supposed to be half nigger

>>92480287
thanks anon, i was also thinking of making greentexts into comics so i can improve drawing without worrying about story yet

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Finished the lines for my space pirate. Looking for critique here, especially tips on line consistency and speed since this took way too long to finish. I gave her a simple outfit since I know she's going to be the pseudo main character and I'll be drawing her very often, but it still took me probably around 4+ hours just to finish this without even getting into colors.

>>92479260
A sexy scientist with a fashion sense. don't think to hard about it.