Venom Retrospective - Part 21: Way!Venom

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>>92336507
Not going to be posting the whole series, just the issues that deal with Eddie Brock.

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>>92336654
And from there, the clone symbiote is created. It eventually bonds to Patricia Robertson.

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>>92336660
If you read the whole series, the last issue was actually a flashback. Chronologically, it happens immediately after Jenkins' Hunger story. This issue is present day, at the time of publishing.

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>>92336518
What parts *don't* feature Eddie? It's a Venom series after all

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>>92336866
The majority of the series, actually. It follows a clone of the Venom symbiote as it rampages through an Alaskan military base (its a complete rip off of John Carpenter's The Thing... and no where near as cool as it sounds).

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>>92336866
Nearly all of it. Of the 18 issues this series ran for, Brock only appears in like 6 issues. One of which is a flashback.

The clone symbiote in this series gets absorbed by the real Venom symbiote. Years later, it gets expelled again while Flash has the symbiote and the expelled clone becomes Mania's suit.

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>>92337709

Patricia Robertson was never particularly interesting, but I really wanted to see what all the Suit shit could lead to
Shame we never actually saw it

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>>92337795
I Imagine that there was probably some bigger plan, but the book got cancelled from readers not giving a fuck after 18 issues generic ultra vague mystery plots.

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>>92337795
>>92337826
There may have been a plan but I doubt it could have gone anywhere. This was part of Marvel's Tsunami line where the idea was get all Marvel "manga" like artists and go crazy. There was good stuff but Venom was the worst. Just a slog of weird ideas turned into movie rip-off plots. For a while people thought this was out of continuity,

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>>92338492
>For a while people thought this was out of continuity,
I could totally see why people might think that. Until the last few issues, it has fuck all to do with Eddie Brock.

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>>92338559
Not only that but the history is very vague for a long time, and people acting like this is a new thing. There was also another Venom storyline going in Spectacular Spider-man at the time that never mentioned this plot.

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>>92338615
Yeah, that was Jenkins' 'The Hunger' storyline. Chronologically, happened before this. Was storytimed in the last thread. That was the story that fucked symbiote lore forever, pre-Bendis.

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>>92338720
>video
So this is what Reed's into.

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>>92339104
But Ben could take it

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>>92339193
>>92340032
Uh...

>>92336507
With a tongue like that any girl would want Venom to go down on them.

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>>92340064
This is the last time we see Patricia Robertson and the clone symbiote (the latter of which returns in Agent Venom and becomes Mania).

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>>92340067
Oh shit. Sorry about that... the digital rip is screwed up. Here is the correct page 11.

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>>92340220
Fin.

Be back in a while to do Venom VS Carnage.

>>92340239
Okay, I couldn't really follow along because most of the dialogue was vague and overly verbose.

What exactly happened?

>>92340527
The real Venom symbiote was cloned, then found the clone and absorbed it. That's all you really need to take away from this story. Its really bad.

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>>92341058
I got that much.

What about all the stuff about the spider aliens coming to wipe out all life on earth?

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>>92341551
Who knows? The series got cancelled before that ever actually got explained. Its left unaddressed. It was some vague mystery throughout the series. Bob and his followers never show up again.

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>>92338615

I think Venom vs. Carnage was also happening around this time.

So we had one story (this) were Eddie was fine with being Venom, one story (The Hunger) where he hated being Venom, and another where he was a non-entity and the symbiote was apparently in total control (Vs.)

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>>92342063

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>>92342081
Apparently Peter Milligan has never read: https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/91861970/#q91863593 or Maximum Carnage ( >>91919333 ). Black Cat and Venom know each other well.

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>>92342142

>>92342039

It's weird that the Carnage symbiote was in charge in this story, especially that later scene where it and Cletus were shown arguing with each other (which they admittedly did once before, way the fuck back in their first appearance).

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>>92342230

>>92342257
This whole story is weird and shows the writer doesn't know much about the characters he is using.

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>>92342732

>>92342123
...how does she not know about them?

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>>92342816

>>92342815
Because the writer was as lazy as Mike Costa when it came to doing research.

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>>92342886

>>92342790

I enjoyed the little friendship that Pat and Felicia develop in this.

But now she's evil and he's dead.

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>>92342915

>>92342967
>But now she's evil
Thanks Slott!

>and he's dead.
Sucks, but Remender is no Slott, so I can't be too mad.

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>>92343197

>>92342837
Lazy? LAZY? I wouldn't call missing something like, I dunno, MAXIMUM CARNAGE lazy.

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>>92343551

>>92343332
Anon, most of the people buying Costa's book, I imagine, haven't read Maximum Carnage. And I guarantee most Flash!Venom fans haven't. So yeah, the writer was lazy and didn't take the time to do any amount of research.

That, and this is just some bad writing in general.

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>>92343528

That fucking #1 Dad coffee mug.

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>>92343860
Be back in about 30 minutes to finish this up.

>>92343528

>Ironing

Supervillains doing mundane tasks easily amuses me.

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>>92343950
Its funny, but its another thing the writer fucked up. Why the hell would Cletus need to iron a shirt? The symbiote mimics clothes for him.

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>>92344866

>>92344903

Sensible chuckle.

>>92343950

>>92344565

Maybe he secretly gets off on keeping and wearing his victims' clothes.

So is it possible that Bob's plan failed because:

A) He didn't know about Brock's cancer

or

B) He didn't know that the Life Foundation already pruned the Symbiote of all of its offspring.

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>>92344903

>>92344565
I always figured Cletus never had enough mental fortitude to concentrate on forming anything other than weapons

>>92345045
But he doesn't NEED to concentrate himself for that

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>>92345019

>>92345045
He's done all kinds of crazy things throughout his history (Cletus was the one who figured out symbiotes could travel through phone lines, for example). I think he just as a personal preference for blades.

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>>92345122

>>92345045

If he could, he'd probably go naked all of the time, but it's hard to blend in that way (and he goes to diners a lot; I can recall three or four instances of it)...

Though I do like what >>92344982 suggested.

>it's a Shriek makes Cletus go shop(lifting) issue

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>>92344848

That time Pete crashed a furry orgy

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>>92345220

>>92337856
>>92337872
>>92337892

Wait what?

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>>92345414

>>92345444
>ready for threesome
Man, she's a catch

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>>92345477
End

When we continue next time, we'll be going through Mark Millar's Marvel Knights book. Where Eddie all the sudden hates the symbiote and sells it off.

>>92343461

>Edward

Aw, look, he named him after his great-grandad.

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>>92345188
>it's a Shriek makes Cletus go shop(lifting) issue

It's funny because she actually did do that with Carrion.

>>92345193
>>92345220

I really digged Toxin having BIG. MEATY. CLAWS. as his personal proportions. Combined with his Eddie era design it'd look great.

>>92345580
How fares the sexy lunatic these days?

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>>92345745
Was in Great Lakes Avengers, but did nothing of significance.

>>92346012
>Great Lakes Avengers
Ouch

>>92336533
Two years ago? Are you seriously telling me that it's supposed to have only been two years since Eddie lost the Venom Symbiote? Are you fucking kidding me?

>>92345339
Peter HAS beaten Eddie before you know. And it's true that he's faster and smarter than Venom.

>>92339142
He could, but what kinda family with let their family fall?

>>92341147
What's going on here? Carnage feels a little too rational.

>>92336507
I see that cover and all I think of is porn. God damn.

>>92345556
So why couldn't Peter help him get rid of the Symbiote, like he got rid of the Venom Symbiote?

>>92347702
>Are you seriously telling me that it's supposed to have only been two years since Eddie lost the Venom Symbiote?

Huh? Lost the symbiote? What are you talking about?

>>92348035
>What's going on here?
A writer who has never actually read any issues of the characters in the book.

>>92345556
new thread: >>92351217

>>92348035

It's the symbiote talking, not Cletus.

>>92351470
That doesn't make it any less out of character. The Carnage symbiote has never acted like that before.