How's Your Webcomic? #364: Fetish Edition

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on: https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP


>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

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Posting it again, cause the last thread just got closed (please don't kill me)

http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/its-about-a-duck/list?title_no=69778
Trying to write a comedy comic that is rather story focused, but like in a random yet consistent way. I don't really know, it is its own thing I guess.
Constructive critisism is welcome, I would really like to know what I do wrong/right.

>>92142800
>If your comic couldn't be a comic, what medium would you use to tell it's story?
I'm making it a comic BECAUSE I would never be able to make it an animation

>>92142800
I would love to do animation. My kind of dialogue works better spoken, anyway, and I"m always coming up with cool action
on the other hand, there's enough repetition for a videogame to be a great idea. That way a person's "signature thing" is what they do repeatedly in the game, but the player doesn't get bored. and it would still have hella dialogue.

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>>92142800

So I just started this webcomic about online dating. Your thoughts?

https://tapas.io/episode/687712

>>92143028
good idea! their eyes are a bit close together.

I want to make my own goth waifu, something cute and creepy at the same time, but nothing works. How i do that ?

>>92143188

Yeah, I'm kind of drawing it without too much fuss. But glad you like it.

>>92143028
This is just my personal opinion but changing well known names of brands is fucking retarded and annyoing. When I see another "facepage", "cherry phone" or "popsi cola" in comics, movies or whatever I get instantly pissed off.

Just call it tinder. No ones gonna sue you (companies don't give a fuck, it's free advertising) and no immersion is going to be broken. It just works better.

Also, Jess a cute but what's her motivation for online dating when she could just pick up any guy on the street?

>>92143028
Look at a bunch of other goth waifus, decide one aspect of her design that will make her different, and start splicing together those designs with your unique spin in mind.

>>92143444
Meant for
>>92143361

>>92143434

>Just call it tinder. No ones gonna sue you

Perhaps you're right. Tinder probably wouldn't sue me but I still thought that I should play it safe. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Also, it's Cindy who is looking for a bf. Jess and Sharona are just "helping".

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I guess I could talk about mine a bit...

I've been changing the storyline over and over as years have gone by, though to be fair each time it gets a little better as I get a little more experience with writing. Just saying, it's still a bit of a clusterfuck as I figure out what I really want out of it.

Concept revolves around a boy who goes through a fantasy world where people have the power to change both themselves and the world around them. The idea is that his emotional problems from the real world manifest themselves physically in the fantasy world, Psychonauts-style, and that by dealing with the problems in the fantasy world, he is in fact dealing with his own problems as well.

Typing it out now, it all seems so simple, but I have all these "visions" and details about that world that clutter up what should be a simple concept. I guess I just need to learn how to cut dead weight, even when I don't want to.

>>92143596
Oh and to answer the thread question - it would definitely be a book if it weren't (or will be) a comic. Hell, half the time the writing I do when planning the story is detailed enough to be a book anyway.

>>92143574
I'd suggest just coming up with an entirely different brand name then. At least then it's not so obvious what you're trying to do.

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I think I posted this once in a previous thread that was about to expire, so not sure if anyone's seen it.

My art is crap. These storyboards are just intended to give a sense of what the chapter is supposed to look like. But it's hard to judge if it makes any sense to someone who doesn't see it all in his head...
1/2

Anon from one of the last threads here who's working on a concept for an adventure comic where the MC can control animals.The world this all takes place in is pretty much equivalent to early 80s society, so no internet or highly advanced commercial computers. Organized crime is under pressure from international agencies and there's strong telecomunication surveilance. So crime syndicates use carrier pigeons (among other mehtods) for communication.
In this chapter, MC raids a floating base for the carrier pigeon network and gains intel related to the murderers of his mentor.
MC works with a herd of killer whales to take out the criminals.
At first I wanted to use some extra pages to show how the pigeon network works: decription, encription, vetenary people for the birds, how gangsters send and receive messages and so on. But I decided it would hurt the pacing. Maybe I'll bring it up again in a later chapter.

>>92143434
I like them when they're funny or plausible. if they're obvious knockoffs that's stupid
unless they then point it out, then it's funny again

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>>92143833
2/2

>>92143028
I like the idea but your art is a bit static. If you've ever done 3D models you understand what I mean. Basically, the poses for your characters look inorganic, unnatural and rigid.

>>92143869
>>92143833
Is this ONE? Is this your next idea? I thought MP100 was going good? Are you going for a second serialization?

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Here's a new page of west tree. I'm posting this one again because I posted it right when the thread died.

Either way, I'm trying to change up Jack and Annabeth, Annabeth's personality is changing because it's actually part of the plot, and it's convinient for me because it calms Annabeth down and will make him less involved in part two of west tree, mainly because part two will be more about Sarah and Saudra part one is more about Jack, btw.

Either way, I'm changing up Jack a little bit because I'm really getting tired of his "Oh geez! I'm so nervous!" personality So I'm making him more calm, collected and witty.

Post your abandoned or sidelined comic projects and ideas.

I'll start. "Nasty Itch": Comic about a drugged up hobo trying to survive an alien invasion.

>>92144188
I never knew how much I needed this

>>92144161
>I'm really getting tired of his "Oh geez! I'm so nervous!" personality
I kinda liked how he finally had a personality but you don't wanna go full Morty
you never wanna go full Morty.

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>>92144104
I'll take that as a compliment.
I've been working on this concept for quite a while, I plan on doing at least 10 pages of storyboard a week for the next couple of months. I realize my art makes it look silly though...

>>92144188
>PuppyDuck
>a hybrid duck and puppy who explores a surreal landscape drawn in incredible simplicity
>based on a dare from a fellow college student who didnt believe i could draw

>Professor Brad
>obese cat teacher is terrible at his job and wastes the other cats' tuition
>also came up with in college, was intended for the school newspaper. organizer of said paper graduated before it could begin

>>92144029

Appreciate the critique man. I'll take this into consideration.

>>92144347
wait, it was Drab. it was an anagram. the teacher's name was brad

>>92144322
>finally
That was pretty much his personality the whole comic, but yeah, sometimes he'll do that, but only in like, dire situations.

I guess you could say he's getting more detached and used to it and just enjoys making long winded observations more.

>>92144188
The peddlers
A duo of magical criminals take up a job bounty hunting in order to escape a life of imprisonment.

>>92144188
Me again. (I have a lot of neglected babies)

"Tabaluger" Comic about a gun-enthusiast who's luger gains sentience and starts to affect his life. I want the wacky premise to contrast real life challenges for the characters and leave ambigous if MC is actually mentally ill.

>>92144337
Do you know who ONE is? Just had to get that out of the way first and say I really enjoy this concept and the fact it takes place in an 80's setting. The reason I referenced ONE was because this just really reminds me of MP100, the art style and base concept are similar but with enough of a difference to be enjoyable. Also Westerners don't read much manga so unless they are Chinese cartoon and comic enthusiasts they wont understand the similarities

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Posted this when the last thread was over, might as well post it here too.

>>92144337
That's kinda cool, what are the people controlling them like how did they get that ability? what's the world like? If you don't mind sharing.

>>92144658
I've read all of Mob100 and OPM (as well as pretty much all acclaimed sci-fi manga that have proper releases). I don't see a lot of similarities though, I think it's mostly the crap art and the fact that there is also a crime syndicate in one of the later mob arcs I think?
If I had to point to any specific influence/inspiration I'd have to say Yoshihiro Togashi's works.
The only concrete similarity applies to any adventure manga that has some form of a battle system based on special abilities (and there are dozens of those in WSJ releases alone).

But again, I really enjoy ONE's stuff, so I'm flattered.

>If your comic couldn't be a comic, what medium would you use to tell it's story?

I'm making the comic specifically to maybe have it animated one day. It'd work much better as a cartoon, but that's a shitload of work for one person (plus hiring voice actors)

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Finished the next page of Lido

>>92145271
I'll say it again: i'm surprised we dont have more "animated storyboard" type comic videos. like Reading Rainbow used to do just kinda panning across illustrations and providing voiceover. or like 'Ariel Needs Legs' shit. if I had just ine female friend to do voices, I'd do one. I should really see if i can just Hyadain my voice..

>>92144188
I ditched an idea about chapter 8 where I revealed that Angel is only happy because she has a sercret stash of alcohol, but i felt that would make her a shitty character, so i ditched it.

I planned for Annabeth to have Multiple personality disorder, but that's a touchy subject, so I just went with Annabeth being possesed by different entities all the time.

I could do a whole book about stuff I deleted from west tree if I wanted too.

Or maybe a video series. I was actually planning on doing that, going back and talking about old chapters, like how that guy who makes Gunnerkrig Court does it.

I'd probably do like, one video per chapter.

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>>92145161
no problem

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>>92145012
Not at all.
The ability of controling animals is unique to MC. Abilities are formed through long mental and physical training and are based on past experience an emontional factors so there are no identical though sometimes similar abilities.
It's a basic rock-paper-scissor system with three types: 'Object' ability manifests as or through an object, 'body' ability re-shapes the body and 'direct' any ability not fitting the other two categories.
There are also some other super-human skills not related to this system like ESP and spriting (applying stasis to phsysical objects, very handy for combat)
There's a whole flashback arc dedicated to MC gaining his ability.

The world is mostly similar to 80s earth though there are some geological and zoological variations and the political landscape looks a lot different.

>>92142800
I asked this in the last thread briefly before it got shut down so it couldn't get any replies so…I guess I'll repost it here;

Considering how poorly a lot of webcomics handle the topic; How do you write good romance? I have a few characters that I gradually want to put together (they'll be friends at first but the attraction between them would grow over a couple of volumes since I like slow buildup/burns in my romance)

I guess to simply it what turns you off to a romantic subplot in a webcomic and/or what actually gets you invested?

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>>92146225
wrong pic.
Also the rock-paper-scissors effect is almost negligible in actual combat, it only matters in matchups with identical strength.

>>92145572
I think that would make her a fine, common character. perhaps too common. bit cliche. except it doesnt make you happy, quite the opposite.
I dont think the fictional version of multiple personality is touchy, given that even the real thing only tenuously exists.

>>92146395
I cant think of any western comic, mostly because I'm a capeshit faggot, but there was an old Chinese comic called FMA that I think, while at first I'm not sure if it had a romantic subplot, did the ending with the protagonist and his love interest nicely. I guess the best advice I can give is don't make it a romance at first then, make it a subplot. Don't purposely put the characters for "muh development" but instead put them together in moments where it makes sense. And don't lewd it, that's asking for the romance to be given away

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Designs for angelic creatures. The base shape generates a unique weapons system based on the Situation. Is it too simplistic?

>>92146395
I like when people find someone they can be themselves with, in a world where they cant otherwise.. and just discovering that. slowly letting guards down.. it's wonderful

but honestly i like any romance as long as the dude and the lady are genuinely into each other and not, like, the Lockhorns

>>92146395
>>92147179

seconding this anon.
I tried to reply to you last thread but it was allready archived so I'm not going to write the whole thing again.
I gave three manga examples with subtle and/or realistic romance: Beck, All-rounder meguru and Eden
If you want the romance plot to be the driving force of the story, read some Inio asano (his writing style is off-putting to some people though)

>>92147200
The concepts seem interesting, but they look so rough right now it's hard to tell what the designs were actually going for. Are these supposed to be very geometric angels, and are you planning to draw them in a very flat and simple style? if so, cleaning up your linework would help a lot, maybe the addition of some color could help these designs shine a bit more too

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>>92148233
Well
>>92147200
are essentially monoliths with heads. The 'body' is a chunk of matter that becomes the basis for newly generated shapes. So the base-form is mostly flat, yes.

There are a lot of other types of creatures though.
Pic related, The 'stumps' unfold like flower petals and give way to rows of articulate fiber.

>>92145329
Glasses guy looks like Gideon from Scott Pilgrim.
I like it

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>>92149194
Thanks!

He's originally based on Neil Cicierega (circa 2007), but I've noticed similar looks around since.

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>>92146395

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Lineart for the next page!

>>92150122
cant wait for that show

>>92154916
love how this is going down. it's so not-smooth, that's perfect

>>92143434
>When I see another "facepage", "cherry phone" or "popsi cola" in comics, movies or whatever I get instantly pissed off.

This wouldn't be so bad if shared universes made one and stuck to it. Marvel and DC alone probably have 50 versions of facebook and twitter.

>>92144188
I wanted to steal an Idea from /co/ from a while back about about a scary looking guy that kept accidentally doing shit that made people think he was a war criminal.

I also have a not very well thought out Cape universe that ended up being a lot like some other one so I think I'm mentally keeping myself from just doing fun little stories with it like I wanted. Not an ongoing.

The last one is a spin-off of my comic proper showing the first reoccurring villain's lives before ended up the villains. Basically the "villains are heroes of their own stories" in action.

>>92154916
The dude's expressions in panels 5/6 are very cute, all the gestures/expressions are really nice in this page

>>92144188
Magic Eraser

Was a comic about two brownies (the elf, not the pastry) helping a police officer solve crimes in a city where fantasy walked among the mundane

>>92157151
i can see why you canned that, but i'd like to see it done just once except the real life half of real life isnt exactly like real life despite the obvious reasons it shouldnt be

>>92146395
I'm going to be frank, and you can disagree, but. Unless the romance specifically adds to the thematic elements or is a focus point, there's no reason for it. Romance is so complicated that, to be done right, it needs a lot of focus. If your characters are slicing and dicing aliens in some epic destiny quest, there just is not enough space in the narrative to do either justice imo.

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bump. Have an aunt w/ her niece and nephew. For another comic idea I have but barely developed.

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>TFW not done first draft but have excruciatingly cute and detailed write-ups on how my girl characters' feet smell

MOM'S GONNA FREAK

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Did another environment test like I did in the last thread >>92099996 except this time on the opposite side of things. I haven't drawn a lot of naturey stuff but I think this looks alright.

>>92159243
are there even words for that?

>>92159243
stop writing with your dick and write with your brain

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How's the character design going on your sides, any new characters you wanna spoiler?

This little one is one of the MCs in the comic along with Lume. Haven't settled on a name Minix is probably gonna be a placeholder or probably permanent one who knows.

I've been reading a book on figure drawing and gesture and holy crap has it been easier for me to draw characters in new poses, it's like my drawing library has been EXPANDED! Seriously to any action comic guys like me do READ some books on gestures, dynamic pose and movements.

Also will be trying to improve my onomatopoeias and effects for the comic.

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>>92155416
>>92157123
Thanks!

Some sloppy colors.

>tfw depressed as fuck

I want to get work done, but I'm too busy hating myself. Is this why most creators are alcoholics?

>>92160584
Welcome to the past couple months of my life. Too busy thinking about how much I suck.

>>92159781
how the fuck do you keep being so creative.
also wanna share the name of that book?

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>>92161289
>name of that book?
Micheal Hampton Figure Drawing Design

Great read, don't expect to be spoon feed alot and make sure to do some exercises everyday, you'll get the hang of it.

Even when i feel like i can do any pose i want with a character, I still find poses i can't do normal and i review the book for tips and advice on what can help.

>>92161563
yahaha!
https://anatomiaartistica.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-and-invention-1.pdf
once again the cardless library has paid off. Ima check it out sometime

>>92161730
oh wait
that seems to not work for shit
here we go
https://archive.org/details/FigureDrawingDesignAndInventionMichaelHampton

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>>92161768
You can also use a site called B-ok.org, biggest library i found online. Great books can be found here do some research and explore /ic/ they recommend great books... just don't get caught in the drama.

>>92144188
Pic related was a request from another thread, but actual was the design for the main villian in my other comic. Guy that could take apart and reassemble space,time and MORE!

I could definitely make a villain more intimidating than this guy though, and probably one with more thought put into it.

>>92162081
there's nothing like a black humanoid silhouette with cosmic swirls. I've used one before, and I'm sure I got it from somewhere else first. possibly Lord Nebula, but he had more of a starfield.

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most recent page so far. hows it look?

>>92162284
you've been working on this page for a good long while haventcha

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Bump

>>92159515
that look petty good, like from an old CN show. Good job.

>>92159781
Your stuff is always impressive and you keep getting better.
Do you have chapters online allready? If so, link please...

>>92162284
Ha, I remeber the thread you posted this comic for the first time. What was that, a year ago?
You definitely got better at drawing. Are you still working on chapter 1?

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>>92148941
cont.

So, I recently read Manhunter, and got inspired. Kate Spencer is a fucking train wreck, and yet, she's incredibly compelling. I want that. Fortunately, my group of heroines are already a bunch of assholes, so I think I'm on my way.

I just need to figure out how to make them likeable while keeping them as well-intentioned jerks. Thoughts? Advice?

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>>92164719
Humor. Have them say mean, shocking things, but shocking in a funny way so you can't hate them.

image possibly related

>>92157449
No, I agree with you 100%. I try to avoid romance unless it's important to the plot (which in my case it is because it leads to events and characters being made etc etc) as I usually find that sorta thing boring and not entertaining.

>>92164912
No, Phil Fish wants to be the lovable jerk type, by goes way too far into genuine asshole. That, and he's a little bitch who gave up because the internet said mean things about him, abloo hoo.

Hm. Perhaps giving my gals a strong sense of integrity would help a lot. For example, it's easy to hate Richard Nixon, but also easy to respect him because for as much a jerk as he was, dude was willing and able get past some of his own bullshit to get shit done.

>>92164719
That's a slippery slope there. You could always have the tsundere thing where their asshole facade covers the fact that they care a lot but don't want to be taken advantage of. Or you could have their jerkiness be relatable like why people enjoy "Harley Quinn". You really don't want to fall into the hotdiggetydemon, jhonen vasquez, ren & stimpy, catdog, etc thing where all of the characters are horrible assholes and it just gets grating and mean spirited. It works for really gag driven things but if you're trying to create genuine attachment to these characters it wont work.

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>>92159781
DAMN, MAN! You're making me so jealous. I really tried to learn gesture with those websites that have you draw a new form every 30 seconds, but I just can't wrap my head around it. Tutorials say "follow the flow and don't fill in detail", but all I do is draw barely legible chicken-scratch stick figures that have more in common with tumbleweed than a human being. Pic related is something I did a few days ago, a character for a wizard mini-series I'm working on to get me used to drawing and composing comics. Without gesture she feels very stunted and stiff, and as far as posing's concerned I'm pretty much a slave to whatever google image reference I can find. Any help would be appreciated!

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Jojokes.

Do you draw shitty references in your comic? Legit question.

>>92168221
Yes I do, all the time.

A secret to save you self some cringe is to have all but one of the characters actually get the reference.

That or just hide it away in the background.

>>92168221
No.
References and memes are bad substitutes for humor, as you are not using your own writing skill to develop funny interactions with your character, but relying on someone else to do so.

>>92142800
Just as a reference what is the best (or more accurately your favorite) webcomic? Which is your least favorite/the worst?

Which do you think is the most overrated?

>>92168833
Mine. Dewd's.

Anything that has been around for a while, its garbage but people still read it out of duty.

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>>92148941

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>>92168890

Let's discuss the difference between knockoff and inspired by.

I want to do a story about a species of alien robots who shapeshift into vehicles. You're already thinking "That doesn't sound familiar AT ALL!". Yeah, so how does one pull off a work that will draw inevitable comparisons to a well known property that has a similar concept?

First off, Hasbro can eat a fat dick, since they do not own the very idea of this, and Go-Bots did it first anyway. Second, I have much different, more SOL-ish ideas for it. And third, the whole reason I want to do it in the first place, is that Transformers has always been held back by the need to be about the war. Even in stories focusing on times where the war has stopped are ultimately about Bots VS Cons. Even fucking Beast Wars was about the Bot/Con war, even though that should be impossible.

My point is that "shape shifting alien robots" is an idea wasted on the same scenario repeated ad nauseum, so fuck it. Thoughts?

>>92169868
I have the same problem too, except it was more of a coincidence for the similarities between my work and a lot of other comics.

Your work seems to be more of, not necessarily a deconstruction of, but more of a critique of the original work/a parody in a way. It is meant to use what we know in a genre and do something different with it.

Mine on the other hand seems to be an unintended mix between ATLA, SU, SvFE, and DW based on plot points, character backgrounds and scifi/magic themes. Stuff that I never watched until someone pointed out the similarities. Which pisses me off the more I read about the lore and characters

But to summarize

>the difference between knockoff and inspired by.

I think it more boils down to excution and intention.

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>>92168833
No Rest for the Wicked has been my favorite for the past couple of years. It just had such a clear story, we knew what the motives were behind the characters and where they were going and what they were going to do. This is how you mix fairy tales, RWBY.
>last update, 2013
but just kill me.

Least favorite is probably any of the weird yaoi stuff on smackjeeves.
http://some3some.smackjeeves.com/news/
http://withcatboyandcutie.smackjeeves.com/
The humor usually isn't very witty or clever, and characters normally don't have any charm to me. The only yaoi/yuri webcomics I really like are from Old Tian (19 Tian, Their Story). Probably because the characters are more than just, "Look at me I'm cute, there's no way I could be sexual but let me sensually eat this conveniently shaped Popsicle," and "I look slightly manlier, and I love dick."

Nothing comes to mind in terms of overrated comics.

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>>92169868
I would say you just need to find a gimmick that distinguishes your thing from their thing, while also not being overly concerned about ripping them off. You can have a series of sentient transforming robots, but they don't have to be from space. They could be remnants left behind by an ancient civilization who suddenly power 'on' for some unknown reason, or rogue AI who've escaped from a lab and are trying to evade capture from the government. You're exploring similar themes without directly bandwagoning off the concept. After that, your own different style of writing and storytelling should carry the series ahead on it's own two legs.

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>try to draw something
>doodle for 10 minutes
>get frustrated with how shit it is
>tab back to 4chan for the next 2 hours

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>>92170317
That's why I'm here right now.
Just keep at it Anon, a finished shitty drawing is better than a blank canvas. The fact that you can identify what's shitty about it just means that your eyes are developing a keen enough sense to discern what works and what doesn't. Just remember that you will legitimately never be satisfied, and anything you're happy with today will just look shitty to you 5 months from now if you keep progressing.

Pic related, the same character I drew 4 years ago vs last month, and the hair and shoulders of the recent one is already starting to bother me despite probably being the best face I've ever drawn. Keep at it, and remember that /co/'s cheering you on!

>>92164567
No links yet, the chapter(s) aren't finished yet. I wanna make a real good impression with the comic being my first and all that's why, I've been practicing and try new things.

To be honest, their are only a few pages planned (7) and I planned on getting at least 1 chapter out with at least 20 to 30 pages.The process is slow because I tend to want to practice with anatomy, gestures, perspectives and etc. But it's all for the final result.

I really wanna make it stand out on its own as a comic that everyone can read.

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>>92144188
It was a post-apoc battle shonen about Sentai superheroes in a setting similar to The Boys.

>>92142800
A novel probably, this way I'm way less restricted by the number of pages a chapter can be and go into detail on many things that were cut from the comic

>>92169868
I honestly don't care what something is inspired by as long as it's good. To give your own example, the "Aliens transforming into cars" makes for a cool sci-fi war series; but the same scenario could be used as a drama in which aliens learn about the lives of humans who drive them knowingly, or a sci-fi horror series.

My own comic draws heavily from fairy tales from all over

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Sketched up a space taxi design I'm pretty proud of. It's piloted by cyclopian twins who share a single mind.

>>92169868
I used to have this problem with a lot of people comparing my mascot character Dupe to the gemini trolls from homestuck because of the red/blue coloration and association with video games. what I can tell you is that as long as you're bringing something genuinely new and creative to it then it's worthwhile. People will draw comparisons to what they already know no matter what but if you really make it into your own thing people will start to treat it as such. My advice is maybe go with less terrestrial vehicles. Bots Master had robot toys that turned into vehicles but the vehicles looked just as strange as the robots so it felt like it's own thing. Even if you are copying it then as long as you're doing something new with it then it's fine. Rebecca Sugar made a green square headed alien character in Steven Universe just to realize an arc she always wanted to happen in Invader Zim and people praise her for that despite how transparent it is.

>>92168890
Wh-which one are you awnsering for? favorite or least favorite?

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>>92171778
this is so sad it's funny

>>92171778
he was saying his own comic was his favorite and yours was his least. I agree on both.

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>>92171820
You have to see this

>>92168833
Mob Psycho, hands down. Kill six billion demons in close second.

Of those which originated in these generals, I'd say Carrion girls or the sisters...

Le quriky socially aware girrl comics are all the fucking worst, I don't get the popularity. Art is usually shit, too.

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basically done, gonna fix up the last panel a bit though.

fuck drawing that stupid car

>>92171916
Ah ok, thats cool.

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>>92169280
Is that you from last thread again?
Why do all my creature designs cause lewd reactions? Not that I'm complaining, just a bit confused.

>>92171917
what was he trying to crowdfund?

>>92172301
An internet animated series called Just Another MMO.

THough sadly it did not work out, but that does give me some more time to polish it.

>>92170317
That image is so fucking true - I bought a wacom bamboo about a year ago and never even bothered turning it on because the code for the complimentary software didn't work.

>>92172301
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/just-another-mmo-the-cartoon-series-art-animation#/

>$0 USD raised by 0 backers
>23 days left

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8LTFxPosWo

>>92172072
Don't take this the wrong way, but you're not a native speaker, right? You should work a bit more on the dialogue.

Also, why does that sand buggy look so good? Did you trace it?

>>92172572
I'm sure he'll rally in the last 3 weeks.

>>92172783
He is a native speaker, just clearly too heavily influenced by manga and/or anime. I mean, that dialogue is absolute cringe, ripped straight from whatever shounen he watched or read most recently.

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>>92172572
holy fuck how embarassing, the fact that he thought he would even get a penny for this was delusionally optimistic

>>92171088
Those are exellent character desings, good job.
Maybe make the windows of the taxi look more regular and less like a cage and highlight the 'Taxi' sign more...

>>92172819
>H-he's fast

Well, having dialogue during fight sences is kind of a catch22:

If you don't have the characters talk no one will get wtf is going on but if they do it comes across as comical or at least unnatural (no one says 'I punch you in the face.' while punching someone)

So battle manga resort to inner monologues, thus he trope. It's a pretty tricky problem from a writer's perspective...

>>92172848
Thanks, they're some of my favorites. They're washed up drag racers, they turned their racing vehicle into a taxi service (checkered flag motiv=taxi pattern). I wanted to retain some kind of racecar vibe by giving it that window caging but I might leave it out of the finished product, depends how it turns out when outlined and colored. I'll be sure to have the taxi sign glowing as well.

>>92172819
>>92173041
I don't read comics often so yes a lot of my influence is from manga, mostly one piece at the moment. but In that last panel (the one I believe is the problem here) I had that text there so people could tell what was going on while I was working on figuring out a way to make it more obvious that she's flying.

and >>92172819 don't be a dick about it, I've mentioned several times in the thread that a lot of my work is influenced by manga rather than comics, so of course my work is going to fall under the troupes of manga/shounen manga rather than comics.

>>92172783
The buggy isn't traced, but heavily referenced from a 3d model my dad gave me, he's really into cars, and I asked him
"send me a 3d model that looks like it would work well in a desert."
he sent me several, and that one was the easiest to draw.
I'm going to be spending the day with him, and he said he would find a model in his collection that I could use for reference.
he is best dad.

>>92172477
Go get SAI dude

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Background for my comic book site.

>>92142800
What's the worst webcomic ever?

>>92173908
West Tree Academy of Heroes.

>>92168675
what if you're creative about it

>>92169868
first, shapeshifting and 'folding up into a different configuration using very few joints' are completely different concepts. the latter is intentionally toyetic. which I like.
secondly of course they don't own the idea of it, they've just done it the best. whenever a gundam has an altmode it looks crummy. of course that's much harder scifi so you have to make the whole machine still feel stable.
thirdly, why not rip off Diaclone instead? I always felt like it was a much more sensible story. Humans build vehicles that can unfold into battle machine platforms of various types, mostly humanoid but sometimes just a torso with a windshield cockpit where a head would go, in order to fight alien bug robots. it lets you sensibly have parts of the vehicles become other things besides just 'a guy' and it gives the disguise a legit purpose. you drive your convoy up so it looks normal, and your enemy thinks you could be anywhere so it's too scared to attack human civilization

>>92171088
completely awesome. it's a little bit Demolition Man and a little bit Playmates. your vehicle designs are fantastic. and you did a much better pun on hackney than I did

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I fucking hate cars.

These poachers don't even deserve to travel so comfortably...

>>92173908
Generally held to be Pupkin, but that's a bit outdated
also that guy has done a ton of much better comics by now

>>92174087
Do what you like, but if you're replacing what could be an original concept with a reference to something you might come across as a creatively cheap nerd.

Totally depends on the context, of course, but an original pun that anyone can get goes a lot farther than a reference-based pun.

>>92173853
nice colors. that monk guy looks a bit generic though...

>>92173853

>Dragonball 2099

>>92170535
>king of the north

is he going to get his pragnent wife stabbed to death and his head put on a spear?

I like the first three panels. I don't know if there's a name for it but I see it a lot and it always works well...

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I got a brush pen, and I feel like it could make some really cool looking cat tails or something, but I'm still no good with it. Any tips?

>>92174399
>replacing what could be an original concept with a reference to something
surely nobody ever does that

>>92174794
I think these sorts of things work on the same basic principle as pressure-sensitivity. you press harder for a thicker line

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>>92175021
I think I might need a bit of calligraphy practice to do what I was thinking with it. Something like pic related. A minimalist, maybe wordless comic about a cat's daily life.

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>>92174232
Thanks! I'm definitely going for that 90s sci-fi movie/thinly veiled toy ad sort of look. What do you mean I did a better pun than you did?

>>92172072
Don't do the vertical bubble shit. Asians do that because they actually write that way.

I'm not against Asian influenced art but don't take and use things without knowing why.

>>92175293
nice.
>>92175456
referring to the filename.
all I managed to do was make rhymes. i knew there had to be some way to work the dual meaning of hackney (probably not a dual meaning actually. it's probably a metaphor) into some kind of joke..

>>92175456
>It's the Ramshankle.. and you know dang well!
>It's made up of old vehicles that we couldn't sell

>>92175786
this. though i don't blame anyone for the unfortunate fact that the most common subject of art is humans, and humans are taller than we are wide, but most of our writing runs horizontally.. combining the two into a panel is tough.

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>have this serious onmyouji girl character on an old-ass fanfic i was writing during high school
>name her motoko
>later add kusanagi because MUH ANCHUENT japanese families
>later find out about Ghost in the Shell
>revamp story into another thing entirely because I became attached to the characters and want to use them in something good
>still haven't come up with a new name
>need to fix it because she eventually became an important character
eeehh i hate naming so much

>>92175786
That guy actually got that advice many months ago but still does it. He's Dewd tier, I believe. Don't try to help him.

>>92144188
I had this story about a girl falling into a coma after a traffic accident and then slipping into dreamland; she finds a small community of lucid dreamers in it and tries to figure out a way to wake up as she has no idea what happened other than the accident. Also, the antagonist is a fan of Stirner.

I wasn't content with any way to connect the dreams of the other people involved; watching Inception, Paprika, and Alien Nine back to back was a terrible idea.

>>92176365
That sounds neat. Yeah there's no logical way to connect dreams given that they're just your brain going over the memories and concerns and shit you've had recently, and lucid ones are where you wake up and start conciously interacting with that process.
You could make it very-near-future scifi and have it be some kind of widespread machine that's put on coma patients' heads because it helps connect some broken neuron connections, but the things are online and monitoring their activity, so maybe it turns out they glitch and share the dreaming on the internet somehow... that's what I'd go with.

>>92176365
Stirner as in Max Stirner, the German philosopher?
Are the lucid dreamers in the story called spooks?

Also Stirner is pretty obscure but liking/quoting edgy philosophers like Nietzsche is almost a trope for villains so it could work, maybe?

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>>92174257
Learn perspectives and draw boxes. Life becomes easier then in 2D.

>>92176159
That's bullshit but I believe it.

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>>92176781
> Stirner
> Obscure
I guess you don't visit /lit/ or /his/ often, do you, spook?

If you ever want any mediocre ideas or just a laugh, check out >>92139090 there's some funny shit.

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>>92144188
I've got another comic idea on standby right now 'til I work out a bunch of plot kinks. I might have posted it here before.

It's about a teenage boy named Evan who doesn't know how or why, but can suddenly start seeing ghosts. He learns from a spirit living in the forest known as the Devil that this power is a curse coursing through his blood, and if not lifted it will soon kill him. The Devil once taught someone this curse before, a local doctor who was executed over a decade ago for murder. Though the doctor's body died, his spirit persisted by possessing living bodies to advance his schemes, and being the person who placed the curse he's the only one capable of lifting it. Evan teams up with Ruby, a girl wary of the Devil who could always see ghosts, to find the doctor's current host and force him to lift the curse.

>>92174464
Thanks m8, maybe I will add something to make him more distinguished >>92174631
Yeah, I'm hugely influenced by it ,but my comic is going to be a lot darker.

>>92177108
Well I'm German and had never heard of him before comig to 4chan.
He wasn't mentioned once during two years of philosophy class in senior high school. A lot of Kant, Nietzsche, some Hegel, Habermas and Adorno, no Stirner. So I stand by my statement.

On a rleated note, refernces to Germany in comics, mannga or really any kind of media end in disaster 90 percent of the time becuase of the tricky language.

LoGH even has several grammar errors in the fucking title of the show, that's pathetic. I had this vague fantasy of becoming a German fact-checker / proof-reader in the Japanese anime industry as a teen...

>>92168675
If all your punchlines are "I'm making a reference!" then that's bad; you really should avoid doing that.

However, as background gags and cameos, I'm all for it; they're extras, not the main joke. Ideally a gag should work on it's own, with the inclusion of a meme or reference bringing a further dimension to the gag, so it's still understandable to someone who doesn't spot the reference. Darmok slipping on a banana is funny, but it can be funnier to someone who recognises they're at Tanagra and it was Jalak who dropped the peel.

In >>92168221 the Jojo/Dio gag is a poster in the background of panel 1, and that's fine, especially if no one calls attention to it in the dialogue. If it was the sole punchline to the end of a page, there'd have to be some pretty clever build up to justify it.

Just wanted to ask if someone has seen something similar to this or, better yet, if you might have some ideas or expectations of what could come from this.
Basically, I'm trying to figure out a good character dynamic for the protagonists of a comedy about girls forming a rock band.

>the bassist and protagonist is a know-it-all newbie getting into playing an instrument for the first time in her life and trying to be all hipstery and cool but failing because of an obvious lack of knowledge. she has a hard time finding people when she wants to form a band because of her lack of focus and unearned elitism

>the drummer (sometimes keyboard player) and composer is a well-known ace musician on her local scene but reviled for her horrible personality and demanding, strict attitude towards music which got her kicked from every band and group

>the guitarist is decently talented in classical guitar but is often kicked out of groups for being a dumbass that always helps bring out the worst in whoever she is around by being a chronic enabler and ruining one or two members

Basically, the bassist and drummer end up together by the drummer's will out of necessity and the guitarist is just dragged into it and has no issue with it.
I'm thinking of making the story about some battle of the bands kind of thing but also make it feel like a tournament arc at some point.

Also, is /x/ or /tg/ a good place to ask for tarot-related shit? Not for this one, but I'm designing characters based on the major arcana and I wanted feedback on those once I was finished with some.

>>92177506
Tell me about it. Nihon loves Deutschland but they can't speak that shit for shit. and it (along with Italianese) comes up so often in /m/ stuff with just ridiculous romanizations..

>>92177567
Jalad, you mook!
fufufu you are cool just for making that reference. And you've pointed out why references are cool.. they serve as a shibboleth.

>tfw finally found background artist
>tfw they have to put up with you now

I-I'm so sorry.

>>92177620
K-on
Scott Pilgrim
gender-bent Beck

Go to /tg/, everyone on /x/ is either mentally ill or a dumb role-player. It's only good for spooky art threads when there's nothing related on the wallpaper boards...

>>92177620
I can tell you this, I'd switch them around a bit. You're under no obligation to follow the cliche, but it's usually the drummer who's a hipster who wants to form a band, the guitarist who's an ace (or terrible) with ambition but major personality problems that mess up their friends, and the bassist who's quiet and skilled but simple, bad at improving, and kinda not helping when situations get weird. it's band tradition!
in any case, it sounds like you have most of it down. The basic rule for trios follows the three stooges formula
>the moe can boss around the others, but is too driven to see that he's about to go off a cliff
>the curly can strongarm the larry but is too dumb to understand what going off a cliff will entail, and is too loyal to moe, even if he's technically factually aware it will happen
>the larry is sensible enough to understand what's going wrong but lacks the capability to take command from the curly nor the spine to tell the moe no
the Belcher kids have the same basic thing going.

>>92173853
Lookinng good, though the light tone of the mist on the left is a bit distracting. I think you could darken it, that could help the monk and building stand out better.

>>92177772
>found artist

I'm so fucking jealous. I feel like I missed the time frame to team up with somebody irl and am now stuck with al these comic ideas I can never make realities. I'm so terrible at drawing and so slow at learning I'll be in my thirties before I get any decent...

>>92176584
I was thinking of making it more of a natural ocurrence, to have it be all accidental so I never considered sci-fi anything into it.
I'll have it in mind just in case.

>>92176781
Yeah. I dropped it some time ago and I've been having some issues recalling shit lately but IIRC his role was to put her means of waking up and coping with her situation into question. The guy really disliked that the dreamlands were getting into having some kind of order when there's more to it in his opinion.
Some of the other lucid dreamers were using the place to become inspired or to win time to vigil and attempt enlightenment or advance their studies but they kind of got in the way.
I was just getting half-way into Stirner's book when I gave up with the dreamlands' "magic system" so I could be completely spooking him up by accident.

>>92177506
>Hegel, Habermas and Adorno
>no Stirner
Man, you guys are fucked.

>>92177620
I have a characer who's ability is a tarot deck.
The ability is called 'finite set', it's an ability-distribution system with the individual cards acting as surrogates. If used correctly it can predict future events.
The character rises to power in a secret society through his fortune telling but in a massive twist he kills them all off by distributing the ability costs among them.

I'm surprised how rarely you see tarot cards in fantasy settings...

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Latest page from my new comic, happy to be doing webcomics again. Now to get going on the next page.

>>92177969
Adorno is pretty entertaining to read. He's a raging leftist though so he'll never be popular around these parts. I don't go to /lit/ a lot but I assume the /pol/ influences are as strong as any other board.

Habermas' whole philosophy on a hugbox-concept.

Hegel is semantics and a lot of mumbojumbo.

Kant is great but difficult, I don't pretend to really understand him...

>>92178231
Interesting shots in a few panels, I like the compositions of panels 1 and 2. You should darken your shadows and contrast your values some more in general. In some panels characters are the near same value as the background, like panels 3,4,7,8. Since your shading is so light it doesn't add much depth or lighting to your characters, you could either darken up those shadows a lot or forego shading all together.

>>92177812
I mean, in a dysfunctional band
in a functional band the drummer's the most humble and astoundingly skilled. they're kind of the best indicator of a band's health

>>92178231
panels 6 + 7 would make for a good joke template...

>>92176008
That doesn't really apply in this case. They have plenty of room.

>>92178734
true but it's bad geometry aesthetics. we naturally want to put two long things inside a square.

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>>92179114
No? The only thing more "aesthetic" about a human figure with a vertical speechbubble is that the two shapes balance each other out, but that's not the only balanced square panel layout. Just using the rule of thirds there are plenty of square compositions to create and play with.

>>92178532
I think you're right re shadows, I'll tweak things a bit on the next page. Glad some of the more time intensive panels are working.

>>92174973
I think that references are best if they're partially used as an education tool. You reference something of worth that people might have never heard of and it inspires them to look into it. It also flatters the audience by assuming the best of their education.

On the flipside, many would see this as the author masturbating about how well-versed they are, so tread carefully.

>>92179904
A reference only works when the readers knows what is reffered to. That's why we call it reference.

>>92180050
Nonsense. I watched old Simpsons and Animaniacs as a kid and didn't get 90% of their references, that doesn't mean they weren't referencing anything.

>>92179529
If you have little enough to say that it'd fit in the first or last bubbles, sure.
the 2nd bubble is more what I usually do, and it's sad because there's less room for the whole body

>>92180248
This. it inspired us to greater heights.
then someday you learn the reference, remember the show or comic, and go OH! that comic was smart! then you go back to it.

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>>92142800

reposting from the end of the last thread. No new page today, just fallout new vegas GOTY edition and skyrim dragonborn GOTY edition all day today lol, pretty lazy sunday... but i will do a new page tonight for sure but wont be able to upload it until tomorrow night :/

*you can read this webcomic on any of the following websites:

comicfury: http://fateschaos.thecomicseries.com
taptastic: https://tapastic.com/episode/664005
webtoons: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/fates-chaos/world-changer/viewer?title_no=75153&episode_no=1

*Watch me make this page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7oUG2geRLc&feature=youtu.be

>blu trinity removed West Tree from their site

I can't believe they hate me :(

Is there anyone I can trust bros?

>>92175786
I'll fix that
when taught text layouts I was told to keep them circular and it's fine, I guess I took that the wrong way.

>>92176162
ha ha ha fuck off.

>>92182074
>told to keep them circular
I said this wrong.
I ment, I was told to keep the group of text in a circular shape, sometimes forcing me to make those ovals. once again I'll fix that.

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We don't seem to get enough real in depth critique here, lets try to fix that.

Post some ideas or pages or anything you want feedback on, I'll try to give the best critique I can. The Deviantart tier "hey man looks great" that even the most mediocre artists here get as a response sickens me.

>>92181564
didn't they at least tell you? kinda unprofessional of them

>>92182513
I'm assuming you posted that to get some critique, but I apologize if not

First thing to jump out is chubby wrist. I don't know what a cankle is called when it's the wrist, but you've got that going on there. In the full body picture, her left arm is very, very disproportionate. She looks part gorilla. It's both too long and too thick - especially her forearm. It's like she built up muscle in her forearm while her upper arm atrophied somehow. It's especially jarring when contrasted with the legs. It looks like you planned on giving her assymetrical armor guarding her left arm but you left the silhouette of armor without actually putting the armor on if that makes sense.

Her eyes are either a bit too far apart or it's just their shape making them look that way too far apart, but she's dangerously close to down syndrome.

And take this as either a critique or a compliment depending on what you're going for, but she looks VERY Pokemon inspired. Give that to me outside a webcomic thread and I'd swear up and down that she was a Pokemon trainer.

Now for positives - the general shapes of the body and parts are good even if the proportions are off. bending toes with the sock is just about flawless - you have feet down at the very least. The head and hair design are nice, but I think that hairline and style is screaming for a headband or goggles or something on her forehead. And the outfit is simplistic yet unique. She looks a hair derivative, but I can't think of what she's derivative of, so I think it's just using existing pieces in a new way. Vaguely reminiscent of Kat from Gravity Rush for some reason. I see a lot of designs that go too heavy on detail that would be hard to show and a pain to draw in a comic format, but that looks like the perfect balance between too detailed and boring blob. Lots of non-essential details that could be skipped in long shots, but added to in close ups, like the fray on her shorts, which can be very useful in paneling.

>>92182844
No sadly they didn't, I had to find out all by myself

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Finished this up! The colors are probably exactly as anyone would expect but I think it turned out nice.

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>>92183058
I didn't actually post it so much for critiquing purposes as just to get the idea going, but I appreciate the feedback. Although it's an older piece I have a lot of these same problems with my newer stuff as well. I'll try to make sure I start drawing wrists thinner since all my characters occasionally seem like they have tubes for arms.

On a side note does anyone have tips on conveying motion on a character with no flappy hair or clothes?

>>92183574
Lol, for a secons I thought the thumbnail was an open vagina.

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>>92182513
Well if you want some critique on that, you should start bucking down and looking into basic muscle anatomy. Hope you don't mind my shitty redlines/redraws.

1. Those legs are very flat and lacking in muscle definition, even for a very thin person. I see you've got some understanding of the shapes of the legs beyond just tubes, now go deeper than that. Pay even closer attention to how the shape of the legs change as they move and rotate, read up on constructive anatomy. The feet additionally look small and the butt is rather low.

2. I don't know if the forearm is supposed to look very long or if it's supposed to be foreshortened. Either way, the forearm muscles are very misplaced. Not to get deep into anatomy, the bulk of the forearm muscles are located closer to the elbow than the wrist.

3. Cute face, but there's a lack of planning in the drawing that hinders it. Look into how to draw real human faces, as a lot of the methods you learn there can also be applied to anime styled faces. Here, the girl's face looks a bit lopsided, and here eyes look like they aren't actually attached to the face. Thin of faces as 3D objects, eyes will sit IN them and AROUND them rather that just sitting on top of the face. The Loomis method for drawing heads can be easily modified for drawing anime styled faces, here's a useful tutorial on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U

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>>92144188
Had something about like a cult of necromancers in a generic fantasy world.

I had too many super conflicting ideas about it and could never get around to actually starting the damn thing

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Forgot to share this (and WIPs) this time around

>>92183058
I think you call those frog arms. they show up in a lot of monster anime.
>>92183559
the piss yellow is appropriate for this grungey future where a buttery sunshiney yellow would be too nice
>>92183606
i saw a heron

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>>92183574
>On a side note does anyone have tips on conveying motion on a character with no flappy hair or clothes?
Gesture studies and line of action, my man. Before you plot out an action pose, plot out the line of action. The more forceful the pose, the tighter the curve in the line of action. I can see a line of action in that pose, but the line is rather weak for an action pose. The curves in the line are softer, and the curve makes an overall S shape. S shaped lines of action have less energy than C shaped lines, an S shape conveys two, smaller motions while a C conveys one, large, powerful motion.

>>92183861
Man I love your human designs, moreso than your bugs honestly. That's some nice simplified clothing you got going on.

>>92184133
although if someone is spinning, an S shape naturally forms around the center of gravity

>>92182513
I'm always willing take up a free critique. >>92167224 I drew this witch character a few days ago for a mini-series I'm planning. It's not my greatest work, but that's likely for the best since I feel like this is probably my average level when I don't take a million years making sure every pixel is flawless.

>>92184133
Oh man, gesture studies. I've been working at it all day with no progress and no idea what to do. Probably the most frustrating subject for me since I started drawing.

>>92184211
what ever happened to the dog mech thing?

>>92183954
It seems like there could be a better way to do balloons that don't clash with the traditional art.

Don't ask me what it is.

>>92184211
I would do a thing with humans but I really couldn't think of an idea that I'd like to do with them.
I'm also gonna get a lot of that style of clothing on the spiders in the new thing I guess

>>92184786
s'a good font at least.

>>92185016
Yeah that's fine.

>>92184786
Maybe make the balloons a more organic shape.

>>92184595
>Oh man, gesture studies. I've been working at it all day with no progress and no idea what to do.
How long do you usually take to draw each gesture study? Pushing yourself to go faster and faster often helps, as well as focusing on curves. You should try reading Hampton's Figure Drawing and Force: Life Drawing for Animators.

>>92185185
I try to do the 30 second thing, but I honestly feel like rushing is what's holding me back since the forms I end up with don't even passingly resemble the reference I'm drawing.

>>92185335
In gesture they're not supposed to look like the reference but capture the movement of the model.

>>92186180
That explains what I'm doing wrong. when I see a pose reference I think of it as a statue and try to copy it

>>92183954
>>92184786
>>92185123
The problem is not the shape, but the balloon outline. The traditional inking is so charming it makes the digital 1 pixel line kinda unpleasant to look at.
That said, don't bother trying to change it if you don't have a good hand or the time for drawing consistent balloons individually, it's not that bad.

>>92186180
But how does that work? How am I supposed to draw a model/character without drawing the character? It's esoteric stuff like this that goes right over my head.

>>92189719
by just drawing the basics of the body, or even a different body's basics but in the same basic pose.

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>>92189719
For something extremely quick, like 30 seconds, simplify! Gesture isn't about accuracy, it's about feeling. You can refine it later.

>>92183558
Didn't you violate your contract, you fucking retard
Of course theyd remove you

>>92190267
No I didn't, I always did what they said.

Well, they did tell me to make a more "Marketable version" of west tree, and I was for a while until i had to stop so i could work on the animation.

>>92190174
if that counts as gesture drawings, I do those all the time, as sketches
but by the time I draw the character over it, making anatomy make sense, stiffness has entered in. Still, it definitely helps compared to not doing it at all

>>92190267
How would you possibly know that.

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well crap, what would make a good ritual backdrop

>>92190909
Hanging banners with large symbols, floating candles

>>92190909
backdrop as in a big tapestry on the wall?
a big tapestry of some fucking weirdlooking beings, presented as if venerated, with tiny images of people bowing at the bottom
and some big spooky symbols on it, with like, an eye in the middle of the circle making up one of the symbols' letters.

>>92190971
>floating candles
now that is one interesting idea.. but to any of you out there with extra-normal decorative abilities: you'll find that combining antigravity with fire doesn't work very well. gravity has to pull the hot gases upward or the fire will smother itself and go out

>>92190971
>>92191008
Those sound good, I'll put them in. Though they seem pretty obvious now that you mention it, I can't believe I forgot them, d'oh
>>92191064
I'd imaging the anti-gravity magic would only reach the candle itself, if not the lower stock.
Alternatively, it could be a counter-force spell that lightly pushes the candle upwards at the same rate it's falling
it's magic i aint gotta explain shit

>>92191246
what about perpetually falling candles that drift and swoosh around in spooky patterns with the flame trailing behind in different magical colors?

>>92191338
the goal is to not overwhelm the reader

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I need to start doing more practices with backgrounds with multiple character on it.

As much as it's just the sketch, there this little tick in me that says this needs to look better!

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>>92145329
nice job friend, its looking great

>>92191391
i just meant in general, not in this comic specifically

>>92191471
so cute! and that's a well-planned crowd scene. but yeahhh crowds take a long-ass time to draw

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i made a comic

>>92192117
Your writing gets smaller and smaller over the sentence.

>>92190372
They were telling you politely to make a version that isn't assgarbage.

>>92192224
It really sucks to be as stupid as dewd. Too stupid to learn and create something special, lacks the self awareness to accept his shortcomings so he's never able to make changes. Seeing people like this makes me appreciate my mother more for how much she pushed me to read and study, and also for not drinking while pregnant.

Here'a an Angel for tonight before I go to bed.

>>92192295
go to bed forever

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>>92192295
Forgot pic, lol.

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Haven't been that productive this week, but here's a sketch I made out in a hangout with other artists friends. I was afraid I would forget how to draw my characters after so long and I was right

>>92192305
rekt

>>92192295

I hope you got wonderful dream.

>>92192117
oh god. I used to keep around those fake russian women scams just so I felt like women were interested. I'd see if I could trick them into a little .. I dunno. correspondence.

>>92192269
What are you talking about? He's way too accepting of his shortcomings. That's the source of all the false confidence and the behavior that derives from it.

>>92192443
everyone gets rusty
the top right cutie actually looks a little better.. as does... who's that on the middle right? is that the guy Johnny threatened?

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>>92192676
She probably looks better because she doesn't have the glasses.
That guy is Johnny itself, the guy he threatened is in the middle row, at the bottom.

>>92192762
Wait, is the top right girl supposed to be Irene? Damn son

>>92192762
okay so, this is a weird thing to say, but..
everyone looks really different... but i think they look better. just rock-solid better-looking, all of them.

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>>92192793
How do we go from this... pic related

>>92192825
It's weird to hear it too. I've been doing real life practice, but the results were enraging me, they suck so bad, and I wasn't consciously thinking about it when I did these, so I dunno if I can attribute to it. In any case, if they look better, I might as well study it and see if I can replicate them. Thanks for the feedback.

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>>92191593
Thank you, fuzzy friend.

Upcoming Greg and Goldie panel

>>92184595
Looks like her center of balance is off but I can't quite figure out why. Her head is weirdly disproportionately large compared to her body and her arms are small compared to her head. It kinda looks like she's half midget for lack of a better analogy. Her torso is passable but her ribcage appears to be massive, like it's almost cube shaped. Her knees also look really small but I can't tell if that's because it's a sketch or an actual mistake. I'd reccommend just practicing anatomy more, figure construction from imagination specifically. Work on really solid skeletal anatomy, in fact just draw skeletons a lot.

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>>92183814
I still need to work on muscles more but I tried a little harder this time.

>>92193301
great punch!

>>92193164
aw sweet, I missed the escapades of the spaghetti-spilling vampire and a qt headstrong librarian

>>92191471
Your character designs are so good holy shit.

>>92192443
That dude with the mustache looks like he's about to dick everyone in that picture. I want him to be the MC...

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>>92194351
Haha, he sure did to one of them, but he's too perfect to be an MC, like many support characters out there.

Current WIP, not sure if I'm ready to wrap it up, so, again, I'd like to check it out with you first.

>>92194990
>those character designs

I-is this supposed to be ironic? I can't tell anymore.

>>92195035
It's been so long, I guess people forgot or didn't even know about it.
Long story short, I made a /hyw/ crossover, and liked it, so I asked if anyone else was willing to let me use their OC to do more, and ColdFusion was among the people that bandwagoned.
I promised myself I was going to finish before finishing my webcomic, so I'm trying to get this outta the way now.
BTW, ColdFusion, I fucking hate you. you and those hyper saturated colours you use. I can't begin to describe how much they are making my head hurt when I'm painting these.

>>92195088
>a /hyw/ crossover

How have I never heard of this, I've been coming to these generals for at least two years.
That's fucking awesome! Got a link?

Are there characters from West Tree?

>>92195137
>How have I never heard of this, I've been coming to these generals for at least two years.
I dunno, I offered last year, and only three or four to join.

>Got a link?
Hmm, they're as side chapters on my main webcomic site, so I don't have a dedicated site for that.
>Are there characters from West Tree?
There was one because Dewd was among those who joined, but only featured Sora. Lost the original sheets, and for some reason I don't have the full size bitmap on my computer, so I cannot colour that one until I find either the original paper sheets or the bitmap scans.

The only ones I made were from Monsterous Mimi, Miss Melee, Stones of Anarchy, West Tree and Kiwi Day N. I wanted to make one with Vigor Mortis, but the author didn't say anything and I was afraid of doing it without permission ;_;

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>tfw you yearn for human contact but are too autistic to have the relationships you want so you create them in your comics but realize they're a shallow imitation of what you internalize from the media you consume, leaving you with a shitty comic and still no friends

>>92195700
go outside and join a few classes on various subjects, nigga. Art, cooking, dance, whatever. You'll be in contact with a variety of different people and you'll eventually gain the confidence to engage them. Also, work out.

Also, this isn't /adv/ or /r9k/. Don't bog the thread down with >tfwngf because there are plenty of other boards and threads to do so.

>>92178231
B^U

>>92178231
If you're just going to keep drawing the same thing without any meaningful difference or intentional repetition, why even bother with nine panels?

>>92196671
>>92196383
These guys are right. Stop drawing mouths like Buckley and study panel layouts and vary their composition. This grid is not doing you any favors and every single panel is a guy standing

>>92195173
I think I may have a PNG around somewhere, but that's probably not gonne help, isn't it?

>>92172096
lol yeah. i just thought it was funny because those creatures (vampires) have weird orifices all on them. i'm sure whoever else gave you a similar reaction was just messing with you.

amyways i cant say much for the art, but the design is interesting at least.

>>92197014
I have the very same png. If you're ok with it, I can try to paint them, but it won't look like these ones, so it's your call.

>>92197115
Well, better than nothing I suppose, it's not like it was some grandiose kind of thing like coldfusion's so I wouldn't mind if it was colored in a simple flat fashion.

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>>92196383
that happens sometimes

Anyway, I inked a page today. The central panel took me a long time but i want to work on more black and white contrast. How do you do it guys?

Hope it's pretty, too.

>>92197211
Determine where your light source is, because I can't tell; loose the grey in the second panel and replace it with hard black. Find some shadows in the other panels and lay down some more had black.
Heavy ink styles require a kind of fearlessness. Cultivate that.
Leave the greytones alone for awhile.

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>>92142800
where's that colorist guy? He can test out his work on this ...

>>92168833
Rice Boy is probably the closest to what I want to make, and is what inspired the setting I'm working on for my comics. I don't know what the worst or most overrated is since I tend not to focus on webcomics outside of the ones i like, but in general I just hate anything that people like because it has waifus. I fucking hate waifu fags.

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>tfw everything is working out great

These are the feelings I live for.

>>92194990
It's amazing in 9 years I've never had him swing on a vine. Well that's actually going to be remedied soon. well not so much swinging.
I'm lovin this so hard, man.
>>92195088
sorry man, it was my monitor. though this still looks good to me but that's probably because you're actually using shading.

>>92195088
Oh wow nice job, make me wanna give Lume out to see what you'd do. Though I'm sure this crossovers coming to an end soon.

>>92183559
Dupe your using turbine engines for the taxi right? If so... thise engines will explode or not function to their full potential.

Turbines are like wind tunnels that need both sides to be clear of debris or obstruction, or else disaster is afoot.
Recommend relocating thise engines, like keeping the shape but have two or so turbines near the front of the vechile on the sides.

>>92203736
Post across multiple sites, they all have different demographics and varying levels of difficulty in getting noticed. Try Webtoons, Tapastic, and Smackjeeves, and if you aren't get any feedback on one of those sites, maybe drop it there and focus on your other mirrors.

Regretfully made a tumblr for Ghost Puncher.
I figure it's the easiest way to post stuff about it, especially once I get to posting panels and updates.
It's widely used and simple so here it is!

https://theghostpuncher.tumblr.com/

http://www.smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=159379

>>92205777
At least a post a page/cover/description of your comic, man

>>92206426
How else is he going to trick people to give fresh clicks

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Done with this week

>>92204585
>Regretfully
why?

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Finally think I have a design/color combo I like, so I'll be getting back to the ACTUAL COMIC now.

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>>92207347
And an alternate. I had an idea of having her change colors depending on the season, so wanted to try something "Mushroom Hill Zone"esque.

One thing I've been thinking about lately, is whether or not I should make a font for the comic or keep it entirely hand written. It'd probably save me some time having a premade font, but I dunno, I feel like it might take some charm away? Maybe I'm overthinking it, it'd probably be worth it in the end.

>>92207173
I really don't like the tumblr layout or how the site works.
Feels really jumbled and unfinished to me.
I probably just have to get used to it

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>>92203640
DESU I dunno what they are. I just draw stuff that looks cool and tried to make it look like the mix between a jet engine and a shark. One could also argue that those alien characters are biologically impossible since their eyes would take up basically their entire skull. It's a cartoon.

Not trying to throw away critique but I'm avidly straying from reality for this project since I'm sick of recent sci-fi just going for "realism". This is no more realism based than Spy Kids, Tron, Flubber or the Super Mario Bros movie. I usually get my inspiration for spaceships from lego sets anyway so it's more about rule of cool than any practicality.

>>92207347
I like this design and style. It gives off a lot of character. I personally feel like her face should be darkened though due to her shady hat and hair. Maybe keep the tone of her eyes the same to make it spookier. Assuming this is a spooky character of course.

Reminder
One of the best places for inspiration is your own real life experiences

>>92207417
Why not make a font from your handwriting

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As you may have noticed, I like big ponchos and scarves

>>92209844

Something like this shouldn't bee this cute.

>>92209844
cute! I would offer more insightful commentary but I just really like it desu

>>92209448
what if i have no real life experiences outside of sitting inside and playing video games

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>>92209844
why are so many people making cute bugs now?
Not that I'm complaining

>>92177791
I never got around watching Beck. What kind of anime is it?
All I know is that its creators really liked meme bands from the 90s.

>>92177812
>>92178597
I've always liked more to change things around. I doubt anyone would be interested in another take on the traditional dysfunctional band when I myself am not interested in it.
The drummer being the indicator of a band's health is pretty accurate btw, whenever my friends' band had a stable and talented drummer they would thrive. Then it was the job of the singer to fuck it up.

>>92178213
The ability side sounds a little like the Clow cards, and checking on the wiki to see if I had the name right it turns out they could also be used in fortune telling.
Talk about underused, those things had an absurd scope. Might be the same reason why tarot cards are not that popular; coming up with 78 different skills and giving each some depth is a pretty hard goal in my limited experience.

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>>92210154
>>92210112
I know man

People just really really like her for some reason

>>92210355
Who else is?

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>>92210239

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I inked a new page. I'm happy with the composition of this one.

>>92211573
it's pretty stiff and bad

>>92211795
:(

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>>92212069
yes feel bad, let the negativity course through your veins.

>>92211573
I think it's good but still feels stiff.

>>92212478
I know about the stiffness, i'm practising figure drawing in gesture drawing to get that out of the way, but you're right.
But i like it

>>92212609
It's fine, man. Solving stiffness is hard as fuck.

>>92212771
>it's fine to be shit
NGMI

>>92213136
you must be fun at parties

>>92213194
you must be NGMI

>>92213323
what?

>>92213437
Not Gonna Make It

>>92208572
I think if it was someone's customized hot rod you could call the turbine an affectation, just decoration
but as it's a taxi, i'd just say it's a futuristic kind of radiator, possibly even with a cooling fan

>>92209844
hnnnngh

>>92215756
Try figuring out what your light source is first, where it is. I'm having a hard time finding where it's supposed to be, it's just all over the place tbqh famo

I have been lurking these threads for a while and I really want to start working on my webcomic but I have a lot of problems with paneling, Can you help me? or give me examples of your favorites? please

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>>92215114
what a ridiculous word form

do you have a feels man to accompany your gay acronym?

nevermind i brought my own

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>>92216435
this is $3k a month on patreon, study from the masters

>>92217909
They didn't ask how to make money pandering.

>draw like shit
>want to punch holes in the wall
help

>>92216435
What do you mean problems?

>>92218189
I can think of more laudable desires, but if you really want to punch holes in the wall, do it. I mean, it's not hard. walls are resistant to widespread impacts but not small punching tools
just don't use your drawing hand if you decide to go manual on it instead of, like, a screwdriver

>>92210355
that is one adorabeetle right there. or is it a hemipteran? i can't tell without seeing the elytra.