Ultimates Storytime

>>91904453
>not naming it Ultimates^2 Storytime
Aww shit son, what are you doing?

Thanks

>>91904408
>>91904378
God damn this art is amazing, it nails the cosmic feel so well
Thanks again for the storytime, I gotta pick this up now

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>>91904533
Got too focused on the story to care. Please forgive me You're welcome

>>91904453
Monitoring this thread.

>>91904563
Please do. The sales aren't doing too well and it'd be a damn shame for this to get the Nova treatment.

>>91904453
is it weird that I'm just numb of all the cosmic stuff? the writers put down landmarks, but the landmarks are just erased or crushed or moved so they aren't useful as landmarks anymore. and when a new cosmic figure is put down and the writer says "okay this is the new landmark," I don't have faith that I can orient myself by this, because I don't have faith that it won't be erased or moved just like the last one, whenever someone new has a whim.

I'm not expecting permanence, but don't expect me to invest in something as if it's permanent. Cosmic stories were useful as allegorical tales, or a new mythology, but these ideas aren't archetypes they're fashion.

>>91904691
I'm reminded how this artist can have some great stuff depicting cosmic stuff, but regular scenes like these just look off.

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TrialofGalactus.jpg

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>turning a cosmic entity of destruction into an entity life had consequences
Who could have guessed?

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HOLY FUCK!

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JESUS CHRIST

>>91904736
My god, what happened between this and Animal Man?

>>91905310
MOM HOLY FUCK

>>91905310
Bravo Adam

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Is Ewing /ourguy/?

>>91905353
The problem is the coloring, not the line-art. The art improves dramatically when a new colorist comes on, and the coloring on Animal Man was top notch.

Honestly, Marvel's biggest problem on the art side these days is that while they get some solid artists, they saddle them with garbage inkers and colorists.

>>91905416
Yes. Also, let's see if anyone can spot the upcoming King of the Hill reference.

>>91905456
>>91905443
Strickland Propane!

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This is awesome

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>>91905443
I've never seen KotH

>>91905551
And you call yourself a /co/mrade. For shame.

>>91905770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujOChTr2PkM

>>91905770
Damn thats cool

>>91905770
So, does "personify" actually mean anything? Because you'd think that the death/mutation of the personifications of Law, Order, Chaos, and Balance would have some immediate ramifications outside of this book.

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>>91905997
Thanks

>>91905933
>We interrupt the cosmic plot to bring you Chavez being a cunt.

>>91905977
The way I understand it, it's a "they draw power from law and order" thing. as in they're affected by actual law and order, but their death doesn't affect actual law and order. (Or well, It will indirectly, because they aren't meddling)

though the death entity doesn't operate like that so what the fuck do I know

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Oh fuck

>>91904549
>>91904876
>>91905387
I love these scenes, they make the conflict feel deeper, almost mythic. Life and dark, is and isn't, objective moralities fighting in an unprecedented scale. It reminds me of final crisis, in a way.

>>91906109
It's stuff like that that makes this hard to care about. Eternity in chains, The Living Tribunal and the Celestials dying, Order, Chaos, and The In-Betweener fusing; all of it sounds grandiose and apocalyptic, but it doesn't really affect anything.

>>91905770
PRAISE AND ADORE HIM

>>91905845
>>91905873
>>91905914


This paneling is a delight.

>>91906308
Gotta agree. Unfortunate shortcoming of Ultimates is that there seems to be no ramifications to all this stuff. It's all so big that it loops back around and becomes small again. I forget what comic it was from but there was a panel of some guy complaining about getting lost 'several highbrow concepts ago.'

>>91906296
How does captain Britain play into this?

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>>91906553
I'm getting that sense

>>91906590
Completely irrelevant, just like The Troubleshooters.

>>91905977
See >>91906178 Order and Chaos are redundant if there exists a personification of cosmic law, since both concepts exists inside of it and reality has the shape that Logos wills.

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This is fucking awesome. I really can't say that enough

>>91906581
Wasn't there some hooplah about this guy being related to the empty hand?

>>91906049
>Thanks
No problem.

>>91906724
Just a lot of speculation by anons in previous storytimes, would've been cool though.

>>91906677
>>91906697
>>91906719
I am certain that in years from now this story will be seen as a classic.

>>91906724
He's a Morrison creation, so people got very HYPERCRISIS about it

>>91906806
>tfw I've never read any crisis
Is they as balls to wall as this?

>>91906553
I get the idea that Ewing doesn't really play well with other writers. Draws from them, sure; the guy loves to bring back C-listers everybody forgot. Say what you want about Hickman, but when he makes an event, it makes ripples in-universe.

>>91906553
I feel like part of that is that Ewing can't do anything that would effect 616 earth directly. You can tool around with abstracts all day since most books don't involve them, as long as the universe doesn't go pop nobody has to acknowledge it. Just like how all of annihilation and thanos imperative happened without anybody on earth knowing.

>>91906802
Unless The Maker steals the show, I sincerely doubt it.

>>91906851
>I get the idea that Ewing doesn't really play well with other writers
I get the exact opposite impression. It's the other writers that don't want to deal with integrating his continuity despite Ewing going out of his way to acknowledging there's.

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YES

>>91906553
Ultimates is trying to fill the multiverse-shenanigan void left by the incursions/time runs out/fantastic-four-in-general, and there's only so many ways you can do that without affecting everyone else in the small-scale-regular-cape-comics, if you want to keep things all in "live continuity".

I kind of wish they'd do what Justice League is doing right now- do big massive world shit that is completely ignored by all other books. Not really enjoying the actual JL story going on, but I wish Marvel would give Ultimates that same kind of breathing room.

>>91906851
Though it might just be a fatal flaw in trying to add some logical progression to the other events in the Marvel universe while trying to tell a story of your own. It's hard to make something whilst simultaneously cleaning up after others.

>>91906957
I gotta pour one out for that nigga god damn
;-;7

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What a fucking ride, thanks for joining me.

>>91906957
>>91906947
Damn shame about Connor, I was hoping he'd stick around for a while.

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>>91907039
Good stuff man, thanks for the storytime

>>91906912
It amounts to the same thing. He's trying to tell a story that other writers want nothing to do with.
>>91906979
That's the thing, he's not supposed to be "cleaning up". That's a completely irreverent attitude towards his coworkers, and one I hope he doesn't hold.

>>91905753
That is a high tier rape face that Order is sporting there.

>>91907082
>That's a completely irreverent attitude towards his coworkers

Filling universally hated plotholes is somehow irreverent?

>>91906841
I really can't tell you. I haven't been to a "explain Final Crisis to me" thread yet. I have read Final Crisis, and I can understand some parts of it, but it heavily relies on having a ridiculous understanding of a bunch of other things.

Warning, Gif:

http://i.imgur.com/ILTE1IQ.gif

>>91904670
what are you talking about? most of this stuff is old stuff, as far as I can tell only Logos is new and we see exactly what he came from.

>>91906027
Tensen is fucking great.

>>91907082
On some level you're right, but Marvel has TONS of problems right now both in organization and its culture, and it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Ultimates IS too self contained or too brief or both for a book that narrates on such a high scale.

>>91907156
>http://i.imgur.com/ILTE1IQ.gif
Thanks senpai

>>91907251
>Cosmic entities dropping left and right
>Everything is Multiversal now
>The First Firmament

>>91907261
Oh yeah, so follow the orange line for the Final Crisis related stuff

>>91907259
Like it or not, those are the people he works with. Or, works around, more like it. You can call them sick all you want, but if Ewing can't play nice with him, his books are the only ones that suffer.

>>91906434
Monica needs to pull a Genis and just take the name.

>>91907404
You can read America Chavez's book and say that's not suffering, especially compared to how she's actually tolerable in Ultimates?

>>91907427
It's suffering from a crummy writer, not because the writer doesn't play with Ewing.

>>91906539
Christ

>>91907464
That book -hell most Marvel books- don't play well with others. They tend to be so caught up in their own stuff that the inevitable crossovers and team books and events are juggled around to make even a lick of sense. Then Ewing comes in to tidy up, dust off the forgotten plots and characterizations and put the storylines in order.

>>91907570
And then it breaks apart when there's an event. Look at the last thread; you can see the exact issue where somebody told him "cut the arc short, we need these characters for Civil War II". Or >>91906977; it's a fast stop so the characters can be dragged back for Secret Empire. Ewing's not a dumb man; I have no doubt that, if he had made an effort to communicate with Bendis or Spencer or whoever, they could come up with a less jarring solution that would benefit both parties.

>>91906957
F

>>91905310
Well then. We at least know that The Living Tribunal can die now. I guess that's a thing.

>>91905770
oh god oh fuck I need Beelzebub, Metatron, Shiva, and Pierce ASAP.

thanks for this OP I've been wanting to read it for a bit

>>91908436
This is the All-new All-different Living Tribunal for Multiverse-8. H'es Adam Warlock

The last one was killed by The Beyonders.

So I don't really follow Marvel anymore, is this the most recent event or is this something old that was written out of existence already and the First Firmament was beaten by like 70 Earth heroes shooting laser beams at him?

>>91909743
Ah, so he he is (or rather, was) still young and growing into his powers. Explains how Lord Chaos, and Master Order could blindside him like that. Wonder what will happen now that Logos has murdered most of the Divine beings capable of assisting the heroes.

>>91910389
This is currently coming out. The last issue in this thread came out on Wednesday.

>>91910416
Oh, sweet. I was worried this was something I just missed last year. I'll have to grab it at my LCS to support it. I guess it's lucky that I arrived right after closing time today.

>>91907344
>Everything is multiversal

I mean, if marvel is a multiverse then the embodiment of all that is can't be a single universe.

>>91910959
Logically, yes. But there's no explanation for why Eternity is suddenly Multiversal. Nor Galactus, Order, or Chaos. It drastically changes the understanding of cosmic Marvel.

>>91906027
Is tensen an established obscure character?

or is he an oc?

i'd like to read other stuff he's in.

>>91906078
>>91906098
the previous shit coloring of past issues disguised it, but this is giving me major animal man vibes now.

i missed this travel foreman

>>91912494
He's the 616 OC version of Justice from the new universe.

>>91906724
just the usual hypercrisis autismos

>>91906905
haha it's like a marvel Infinity-Man.

Fucking awesome.

>>91911182
Multi-Eternity has been a thing for a while now bro.

bumpan

>>91911182
Each universe has its Eternity, but the multiversal Eternity is made up of all the "normal" Eternities.

>>91907082
Most Marvel writers deserve irreverence, if not scorn, and most Marvel editors should be fired and you know it.

>>91907781
Are you trolling? Bendis and Spencer couldn't even begin to care. Like what sort of victim blaming is this, you weirdo?

>>91914590
A victim of what, exactly? Do you think all the other writers are just bullying Ewing? That they won't let him sit at the cool kid's lunch table to discuss events?

>>91915465
considering Ive never heard any mention of what Ewing said at those writer's retreats they do twice a year but they go on and on about what bendis and slott and hopeless and the others said, that may very well be the case

>>91904453
Thank you.

>>91904453
Ultibump

>>91916635

>>91917777

>>91904453
Bamp

>>91917798
Haven't read any Ultimate U except for Millar Ultimates 1 and 2 and I was able to follow this comic just fine.

You can go ahead and read it.

>>91904453
boop

Marvel Boy >>91921324

>>91906857
That scene of Carol absorbing the ambient light and the entire room visibly darkening is a nice touch

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SECRET EMPIRE TIE-IN!

• As Steve Rogers makes his move, the Ultimates find themselves on the wrong side of his plans.

• With an existential threat in control of Earth, Galactus might be their last hope...

• ...but the Lifebringer has problems of his own.

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• Galactus faces the ultimate battle with his oldest enemy — Ego, the Living Planet!

• But if the Devourer of Worlds could never fully defeat the Living Planet — what chance does the Lifebringer have?

• Tell no one about the astonishing ending of this epic issue, True Believer! Some things are too good to spoil!

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• The Eternity War ramps up — as the Maker and the High Evolutionary join forces!

• They have an ultimate plan for the Multiverse...but whose side are they on?

• Meanwhile, Galactus gathers his forces against the Dark Celestials...for the final battle!

>>91923081

>The Eternity War ramps up — as the Maker and the High Evolutionary join forces!

Sigh, this is going to just be resolved in this single book, isn't it? No big adventure for other books.

>>91923116
Well, it probably would have been an event or at least a crossover, but any chance of that happening went out the window when:
>Ultimates ended up selling poorly
>CWII burned everyone out on events so badly that Marvel has decided "no more events for 18 months" after Secret Empire

>>91923116
I can't see this series lasting past issue #12

>>91904815
first time i see t´challa foolling

>>91923788
>Ultimates 3
>Ultimatum
>Hyperedge trilogy

Just keep recycling the names

>>91923116
We can blame CWII for that

>>91925210
Didn't stop Secret Empire. Or IvX. Or Clone Conspiracy, Monsters Unleashed, 'Til Death, et cetera.

>>91925254
The controversy around nazi cap was the final nail in the coffin. Which is honestly frustrating, this could have been marketed better.

>>91923059
Judging from the cover, I think Ewing might come up with an explanation for Monica being unable to penetrate the planetary shield in her light form.

>>91926010
Isn't stopping Venomverse.

I hope Ewing brings back Owen and gives him his waifu gf again at the end of Eternity War

>>91926132
That's going to be somewhat contained.

>>91906581
>>91906677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2k7Jf9xO3g

>>91923081
T'Challa go home

>>91918713
Cheers, anon

Happy to see that Adam is trying to create new reality warper child to add to the Brashear's family

>>91926132
Crossovers and self-contained events are still going to happen. It's the big line-wide "everything ties in. Nothing will ever be the same!" events that don't.

bamp

>>91928601
Let it die, Anon.