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Tea, Earl Grey, hot Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out this Week:
Darth Maul #3 (April 26)

>Star Wars: The Last Jedi trailer
https://youtu.be/zB4I68XVPzQ

>Star Wars: Rebels - The Final Season
https://youtu.be/-b7GAhnVwhA

>Battlefront 2 trailer:
https://youtu.be/Kae-JjbLsgA

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
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>Canon Guide:
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>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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What is she, /swco/?
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>>91876973
Thanks for reminding me Genndy's Star Wars series is not canon............-___-
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>tfw no togruta gf
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This is now a Picard thread.
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>They'll remake KOTOR but still won't let you romance Mission Vao.

There is no justice in this world.
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>>91877003
Seriously, what the fuck is your problem?
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>>91876973
D A R K
G R E E T I N G S
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>>91877103
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>>91877135
It's Dave Filoni that makes these posts.
He wants /swco/ to do his job for him.
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>>91877142
>0_days.jpeg
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Who is the better TFA character: Kylo Ren or Finn?
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>>91877142
>>91877221
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Challenge: Name a more legit Imperial than Yularen.

You can't.
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>>91877135
Autistic people can become extremely territorial. Marking the thread makes being within it feel safer to the poor thing.
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>>91877286
Both are bland and uninteresting but if I had to pick I would say Finn, because he's kinda consistent.
Kylo at first makes the impression of powerful force user, basically Vader 2.0 But then later is revealed to be whiny kid, basically Vader wannabe.
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>>91877443
I really hope they expand on his power a bit in TLJ. I mean this guy can pull off wizard shit the likes of which we've never seen before and it's barely mentioned.
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>>91877286
Finn. Ren's whole character arc is just a repeat of Anakin one way or the other.
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>>91877286
Finn didn't get a good story arc in TFA but at least his characterization can't be summed up with a Linkin Park song.
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>>91877472
Don't forget that "he can't beat first time maRey sue easily because he's only training" despite the fact that he can stop blaster shots mid air, exract information from one's mind (Vader couldn't do that) and do all kind of powerful shit.
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>>91877443
>because he's kinda consistent.
Eh, it was weird for him to immediately be fine with killing his old comrades so quickly after his other trooper friend was killed.
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>>91877698
I didn't say he made any sense, just that he was consistent
Sad how low the bar is...
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>>91877003
>same post, same guy, every thread
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>>91877567
Remember that scene dedicated to showcasing how powerful Chewy's bowcaster was?

Remember how Kylo took a shot of it to his gut right before his fight?

Remember how he fought Finn before he fought Rey?
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>>91877003
Mirialan
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>>91877787
I don't think you know what consistency is.
>beginning of the movie
>finn cant shoot
>saddened by loss of comrade
two seconds later
>becomes gungho Rambo stormtrooper slaughterer because he's a designated good guy

that's the opposite of consistency, it'd be consistent if he tried his damnedest to avoid killing stormtroopers on the escape from the finalizer or hesitated on takodana or starkiller, but no he goes right in full slaughtermode
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>>91877876
>using the old bowcaster excuse again
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>>91877003
>Those threads where you don't post at the beginning
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>>91878002
This isn't an argument.
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>>91878036
And getting shot once isn't an excuse.
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Which was worse?
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>>91877443
>Kylo at first makes the impression of powerful force user, basically Vader 2.0 But then later is revealed to be whiny kid, basically Vader wannabe.

that's... that's the same character anon
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>>91878129
How the fuck isn't it.
Your fucking guts would be hanging out and shit you know how much that stings goddamn
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>>91878161
better question

WHICH WAS WORSE?
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>>91877953
I really like Finn but this bothered me a lot too. They're his former comrades, they were taken from their families and brainwashed too, you'd think he'd have sympathy for their plight. Especially since Finn is supposed to be kind. He's not wrong for trying to defend himself or his friends, but is some hesitancy or sadness over having to kill the Stormtroopers too much to ask?
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>>91878009
It's like driving past a hobo everyday on your way to work, and then one day the hobo isn't there.
You can't help but wonder what happened to the hobo.
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>>91877876
>Remember that scene dedicated to showcasing how powerful Chewy's bowcaster was?
If you're talking about that bowcaster which shots literally blew away two humans at once or threw them away 10 meters, and then made Kylo mearly fall for a second, then yes I remember.
You're probably right, it made him fight worse but this bowcaster thing demonstrates yet another inconsistency and poor writing in general. It's just so irritating to me.
I personally don't mind lines about sand if at least there is no shit like that.
>>91877953
Hmm, you're right, you convinced me. Both cahrtacters suck ass.
>>91878161
TFA by far. I think Rogue One was great. Fite me.
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>>91878161
no one with a brain dislikes Rogue One
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Okay you know how there's always this guy pointing some binoculars at ships going in and out of the rebellion headquarters-

What's up with that?
What's he doing?
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>>91878190
Right, so he was able to chase them into the forest, get Finn on the ground twice, beat Finn eventually, and force push Rey up a tree?
Anon, he had plenty of chances to beat the both of them but didn't have the brains.

>Your fucking guts would be hanging out and shit
Not in Star Wars at least, anyway. There are clones that put up a fight after getting shot multiple times.
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>>91878167
>Anakin Skywalker is a Vader wannabe
whut

>>91878222
what would the whiny EUfag shitposters crying about mice be in such a scenario? bicyclists riding right on the line of the bike lane forcing motorists to swerve?

>>91878263
I dislike Rogue One, but I don't think it's a bad movie
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>>91878322
as I said, no one with a brain dislikes Rogue One
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So for shits and gigs I went down to this toy shop I found out was two minutes from me. They had so many star wars figures, especially from the clone wars. And I found a fucking tarkin that was priced way cheap.

good day lads. Almost picked up a TCW Obi-Wan too
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>>91878161
I loved both
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Post books you think Star Wars characters would enjoy reading.

I'll go first

>Ezra
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>>91878467
SLUT
L
U
T
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>>91878322
>what would the whiny EUfag shitposters crying about mice be in such a scenario? bicyclists riding right on the line of the bike lane forcing motorists to swerve?
Cranky 40 year olds
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>>91878002
>using the source as a source
um ... why is that a bad thing?
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>>91878410
>Almost picked up a TCW Obi-Wan too
go back and get it, you fool!
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>>91878319
>There are clones that put up a fight after getting shot multiple times
So you literally didn't watch the movie then, right?

The bowcaster isn't a normal gun. That was foreshadowed, possibly even TOO heavy handedly. If you watch the Kylo fight, he's clearly in pain the entire time; he can't even pull the damn lightsaber to himself.

I swear, people complain about dumb movies but then they don't even pay attention.
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>>91878527
>tfw no money for it

This place was a fucking goldmine, I'm going back next paycheck

the Anakin was a letdown though
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I like nu-canon but I fucking HATE TFA, and TLJ doesn't look any better. How do I get over my hatred?
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>>91878161
Hello /tv/.
>>>/tv/82089166
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>>91878567
people dont give a shit. they wanted another epic saturday morning cartoon villain like maul or grievous or vader. there could've been another 30 minutes to explain why kylo lost and they wouldnt give a fuck
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>>91878607
Focus on rebels, and written content?

Thrawn was pretty good
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>>91877135
He wants to know
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/67rk3z/got_my_hands_on_the_guardians_of_the_whills_book/

Guardians of the Whills is out in the wild
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>>91878607
>most people that like prequel era prefer the cartoons to the movies

hmm i wonder what you should do hmm
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>>91878647
NOOO

please don't spoil this for me
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>>91877286
Kylo. He's the only one with any depth or interesting story ahead of him. Finn was already ruined when they made his Stormtrooper background and brainwashing mean nothing.
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>>91878567
>That was foreshadowed, possibly even TOO heavy handedly.
No, it was inconsistent throughout the film. There were a few points where the bowcaster was used and didn't have any sort of knockback effect on the user. Then there were other times when Han used it and a stormtrooper went flying.
If you're going to pay attention to details like that then in reality Ren should have been knocked off the platform completely.
>he's clearly in pain the entire time; he can't even pull the damn lightsaber to himself
Sure, but that doesn't stop him from swinging and dancing like a mad man every two seconds.
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>>91878232
I think the point was that at the very last second Kylo partially tanked it. He's stronger than random Stormtroopers but the troopers were meant to show how deadly that weapon is. Its power didn't change against Kylo.
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>>91878808
Powering through pain is a thing. That doesn't mean you aren't injured. The longer you fight, the more you'll weaken.

I don't know why I bother having this argument. People are way too set in their idea of Kylo not being hurt at all because they can't get over Rey winning that fight.
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>>91878901
I think Rey's a mary sue as much as the next guy but the fight is a dumb argument to make since Kylo was bleeding everywhere.

Use Rey's mastery of mind tricks or mind reading as Mary Sue.
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>>91878808
>If you're going to pay attention to details like that then in reality Ren should have been knocked off the platform completely.
God how dumb are you? THAT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT.

He tanked it because he's far stronger than your typical person. That doesn't mean he doesn't feel its effects.

To add to what >>91878901 said, being able to physically power through the pain doesn't stop him from being affected mentally. He can force his body to give in and move; he can't force his mind to focus.
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>guy can stop blaster bolts and freeze people in place

>hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr HE GOT BEAT BY A GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

fucking normie faggots leave my board
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>>91878948
That's because she is. But the false things people point to or things they just straight up and probably willfully miss in that scene is annoying.

Rey won because she's a Mary Sue and because Ren was severely weakened.
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>>91878901
Because it's that jarring. The guy could hold blaster shots in mid air, so he should be able to withstand a little pain. I get that they had to force them to lose for the next films, but the land splitting apart was completely fine.

>>91878991
>He tanked it because he's far stronger than your typical person.
So he's the hulk now? He barely moved an inch, yet stormstroopers went flying for like 20 metres.
Can't you guys just admit that it had shitty writing already?
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>>91879060
>Rey won because she's a Mary Sue and because Ren was severely weakened.

This statement makes no sense. It's perfectly reasonable to lose to someone when you're weakened, it makes sense. I'm not even the guy you're arguing with, but this is some low quality fucking bait right here.
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>mfw I just wanted to talk about figures
>it's just a "REY IS A MARY SUE' flamewar

I hate /toy/ damn it and I wanted to talk star wars figures
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>>91879095
>A little pain
He took an enormous gutshot after getting mentally messed up from killing his father. He didn't fly away like the Stormtroopers because, surprise, he's a Force user. They're sturdier than non-Force users.

Why can't you just pay attention and stop looking for flaws that aren't there? The movie already had enough flaws that you don't have to make up others.

>>91879137
It makes perfect sense. She's too powerful and skilled with the Force too early because she's a Mary Sue. But she also won because she was fighting a gimped opponent. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>91878991
>He tanked it
It's not a game where he can just buy HP and be done with it. He is a human, and as demonstrated throughout the movie that bowcaster knocks you back 20 meters back. And if you tell me that he could survive because of the force, then that's just stupid. Since when can the force make you invincible to blaster shots?
"That's not how the force works"
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>>91879180
He's a human with space magic who was able to stop a blaster bolt in mid air. It's not that odd that he'd be able to keep himself from going flying away too.
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why are people complaining about the bowcaster thing when we know star wars blasters have different power settings
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>imagining TFA if they went full Scary Movie and Kylo just flew off the bridge when he got shot

>imagining the public reation to Kylo from that
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>>91879163
>He didn't fly away like the Stormtroopers because, surprise, he's a Force user.
Okay, now you're just baiting. Him being a force user makes no difference. If he stayed still because he was a strong force user then why didn't he sense it coming?
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>>91879212
>He's a human with space magic
What's next? Jedi flying on broomsticks in TLJ? Is your argument "this is sci fi fantasy therefore characters can do anything and everytjhing they want and that's fine"? So It's fine if Jedi are able to destroy planets with the force alone, because it's space magic, right?
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WHY DIDNT OBI USE FORCE SPEED TO SAVE QUI GON
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>>91879349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3dI-ghYimg
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>>91879225
>[spoken in wookie]He just murdered my life long best friend.
>let me switch my weapon to weaker setting and only then shoot him so I don't accidentaly kill him.
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Why does Obi-Wan say that Yoda is his master?
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>>91879349
>running indoors
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>>91879420
Even Jedi masters refer to other masters as master
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>“I perceive, in all things, this truth:
>That we are forever bound to the Force,
>And that the Force forever binds us together.
>What we do to one, we therefore do to all.
>And thus it is upon us to grant to all
>What we would wish for ourselves.”
-Karyn L'Yin, Sisters of Sarrav

>"That which surrounds us, binds us.
>In our connection to one, all is connected.
>This is the truth of the Force, no more, no less:
>Life binds the living.
>That which rises must fall, and that which falls must rise.
>From the first breath of the infant
>To the last breath of the Aged.
>We are one, together."
-Kiru Hali, Sage of Uhnuhakka

>"The Force is with me.
>and I am one with the Force;
>and I fear nothing,
>because all is as the Force wills it."
-The Guardian's Mantra, author unknown

>"We are awash in emotion, every day, every moment
>We are buffeted, we are confused, and sometimes,
>yes, we are consumed.
>When the pond is disturbed, we cannot see within.
>When the pond is still, we can see with clarity.
>In both instances, the water is still there.
>So too is the Force like the water,
>whether you see it clearly or not."
-Dejammy Shallon, teacher and priestess of D'janis IV
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>>91879163
He didn't get knocked away because inconsistency.

We saw the effects a Bowcaster bolt have upon the human body on impact. What happened to Kylo, regardless of Force User or not, is inconsistent.
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>>91879406
kek'd
>>91879420
He didn't. He said Yoda was "the master who instructed him". Yoda instructed many younglings in the temple as illustrated in the prequels.
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>there's a Veers bust

HOLD THE FUCK UP I MUST ACQUIRE THIS
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I'm scared Ahsoka's lekku will look horrible in live action when she inevitably shows up.
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>>91879264
>>91879331
Why the fuck are you guys acting like the force isn't magic powers?
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Which Sith would you impregnate?
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>>91879568
Tyranus
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>>91879557
Because there's magic, and then there's not bothering to have a consistent narrative.

I don't even care, I just thought Kylo was a weak villain the moment his helmet came off. After that he was no longer cool, intimidating or threatening.

Which makes him being an inconsistent loser in the finale even more lame.
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>>91879568
She looks like a lemur.
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>>91879527
Why would they?
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>>91879349
>what is fatigue
>what is focus

Not too many Force users can conjure up the Force without adequate concentration. Even Yoda tapped out saving Obi and Anakin from Dooku dropping pillars.
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>>91879605
>I don't even care, I just thought Kylo was a weak villain the moment his helmet came off. After that he was no longer cool, intimidating or threatening.
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>>91879608
Darth Zoboomafoo
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>>91879633
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
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>>91879160
Which fig is your favorite anon? I have a signed Black Series Ahsoka and a FigArts ANH Luke as mine
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>>91879605
The narrative is consistent, you're just refusing to see it.

Now I could maybe agree with you that force powers themselves aren't consistent, but that's a problem with the entire saga.

Everyone bitches about Rey in TFA, but what about Luke in ESB? He's had about 4 days of formal training and 2 years of dicking around on his own. Yet he held his own against Vader?
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>>91879633
yea but we only ever see Shaak Ti sitting or standing without really moving around
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>>91879465
>"The moment between breaths
>Is the balance of the Force.
>Between life and death.
>Rest and action.
>Serenity and passion.
>Hope and despair."
-Nartun Trecim, Ascendant of Mau

>"Where you see darkness,
>I see stars."
-Laech Min-Glsain

>"Those who would see all the galaxy burn,
>But themselves,
>And who would see all tears shed,
>But their own,
>Diminish and diminish and diminish,
>Unto nothing,
>And from nothing,
>To nothing,
>Is no thing."
-Mete Janvaren of Mirial

>"Those who set a course and cannot adjust their heading
>will break upon the rocks as surely
>as those who sail heedless of direction.
>We cannot change the direction of the wind.
>Nor can we afford to be blown whichever way it so chooses.
>We act; we decide; and we are acted upon.
>So it is in all things that I wish to honor those
>who have come before.
>So it is in all things that I wish to prepare the way
>for those who shall come after.
>And I remind myself;
>in the Force, there is no end, but only beginnings."
-Oz Ladnod, Poet to the Royal Court of Onderon

>"Peace is a lie. There is only Passion.
>Through Passion I gain Strength.
>Through Strength I gain Power.
>Through Power I gain Victory.
>Through Victory my chains are Broken.
>The Force shall free me."
-The Code of the Sith, translated from Qotsisajak
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>>91879605
>I don't even care, I just thought Kylo was a weak villain the moment his helmet came off. After that he was no longer cool, intimidating or threatening.

how does it feel to be this much of a mouthbreather
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>>91879527
>inevitably
I hope so, though I doubt it.
I don't think that they will look bad having 200 million budget.
>>91879557
It is, I'm not denying that. What I'm saying is if you establish that these powers do some things, and then they do something else, completely overpowered like denying the blaster shot damage, then it's just bad writing.
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>>91879684
>want a black series figure because they're cheap and look decent
>can't decide what I want
>don't want anything too obvious because I'm a contrarian
>none of the characters I come up with have black series

Life is suffering. Is a L'ulo black series so much to ask for? Yes, I know -- it'll never happen.

>captcha: HIDALGO
kek
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>>91879696
Shut up nerd
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>>91879717
>then it's just bad writing.
Like I said in my other post, that part may be. But it's a problem we see elsewhere in the saga. Force powers are incredibly inconsistent, because it's just a catch all for "random magic."
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>>91879684
I just got into collecting, so I don't have many. I'm kind of a normie when it comes to this shit, but I actually like my black series Hux. My krennic is fun to meme with, and I can't wait to add a tarkin to my shelf.

Either pic related, or my grinky
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>>91879649
Nah, Kylo was promising before the helmet came off, and a dork loser after it came off.
>>91879688
>Now I could maybe agree with you that force powers themselves aren't consistent, but that's a problem with the entire saga.
Hey, you finally got it.

Also, Rey beating Kylo is fine, since Kylo clearly sucks at anything that isn't looking cool. What is bullshit is Rey using the mind trick like she does.

As for Luke, it's mostly bullshit I agree, but I can chalk that up to 1: Time fuckery on Dagobah or 2: Vader holding back.
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>>91879732
Which Characters are you looking for?
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>>91879694
Cure, but they look like they'd look fine in motion. And they can be CGI for any sort of fight if they need to be.
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>>91879420
Yoda instructed Obi-Wan in the Force afterlife, thus being a Jedi Master who taught him the ways of the Force.

Why do people keep forgetting this
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>>91879789
>I can make up excuses for this one
>I can't accept excuses for this other one
k
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>>91879802
about*, not in
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>>91879789
We get it, you like Vader. But if every villain were 'LE EBIN BADASS' it would get boring fast
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>>91879774
Oh shit that's a nice one.

How was the Krennic Black Series, I've heard mixed things
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>>91879712
>>91879649
Wait wait, do you people actually think Kylo was a threatening villain? That he actually held a candle to literally any other villain in SW?

He's a joke. At least in the first half of TFA, before he takes his helmet off, he shows promise.
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>>91879696
>"From this moment I step into my next.
>From this place I step into my next.
>From this life I step into my next.
>For I am one with the Force.
>For ever and For ever."
-Coxixian Prayer for the Departed

>"There is no Emotion, there is Peace.
>There is no Ignorance, there is Knowledge.
>There is no Passion, there is Serenity.
>There is no Chaos, there is Harmony.
>There is no Death.
>There is the Force."
-Anonymous, "The Jedi Code," also known as "The Jedi's Meditation" (apocryphall)

>"In darkness I fol-
>low the light and find my way
>to the beginning
>again,
>and again,
>and again,"
-Sajar Ohmo, Clan of the Toribota

>"You say:
>I cannot name the nameless,
>Nor praise the unknown,
>Nor swear upon that I do not understand,
>When all ends in Death.
>And I say:
>Then you are not alive."
-Aurek, Pupil of the Central Isopter
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>>91879845
>hes like, so ugly lmao!

go play with your action figures faggot, at least he survived past a single movie. cunt ass
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>>91879835
>what is Greivous
>what is Boba Fett
>what are the Tuskens.

We've had plenty of non-Vader badasses.

They could have had one besides our seemingly main villain for the ST, but instead they didn't. He didn't have to be Vader or Maul or Sheev, but he could have been better than a Whiny loser.
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>>91879790
idk, nothing in particular. L'ulo was just one of the first ones that came to mind when I looked them up. Some other things that would be cool...

>Ki-Ai-Mundi
>Kit Fisto
>Plo Koon
>Yularen

...idk, just something that catches my eye.
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>>91879879
I never said that. I said it's after he took his helmet off. Do they correlate? Probably, but it has more to do with the fact that his character and abilities take a 180 shift the moment he does.
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>>91879891
vader sucked until ESB. go away
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>>91879891
>Greivous jobbed
>Boba Fett jobbed
>I'll give you that one

>whiny loser
What the fuck is this meme? He doesn't whine in the movie dumbfuck. Go back to >>>/tv/
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>>91879891
You just named three characters that look cool. None of them are particularly good characters from a story standpoint. Just like Maul -- cool looking, but he's just wallpaper.
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>>91879879
>at least he survived past a single movie
Are you implying pic related didn't survive that anon?
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>>91879939
Nah. I like it here. autistic arguing is comfy if you've got nothing better to do.

More to the point, Vader was fine in ANH.
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>>91879997
OI
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>>91879978
>>91879977
I named characters that are jobbers and/or goofy in their on screen appearences.

And how was Kylo not whining?

>PLEASE GRANDFATHER I JUST WANT TO BE LIKE YOU
>DAD FUCK YOU I JUST WANT TO BE LIKE GRANDAD
>GIRL? WHAT GIRL? YOU COULDN'T GET HER? REEEEEEE


If you like Kylo fine, but he's whiny loser.
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>>91879410
yes, and?

>>91880031
I don't understand this meme
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>>91879997
Wait what am I looking at here
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>>91879985
I wouldn't called being turned into a cartoon "surviving"
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>>91880076
>Didn't die.

I dunno, I mean, that's kind of the definition of surviving but ok.
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>>91880058
>what are, complex character motivations?
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>tfw Kylo around for 2 more movies

stay salty
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>>91880076
>/co/ - Comics & Cartoons
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>>91879688
>what about Luke in ESB
ohh, I was waiting for some retard to compare it to ESB.
Here goes my rant:
>Luke had days of Obi-Wan telling him how the force works and how to use it in ANH.
>Luke had 3 years of self improvement time between ANH and ESB, some of which is illustrated in the Star Wars comic for example. This allows him to achieve abillities like reching the lightsaber with the force at the beggining of ESB.
>Luke had not 4 days but WEEKS of training with yoda. It took weeks for the Falcon to get to Bespin without its main hyperdrive.
>That training was a training from the most powerful jedi to have lived in the past few decades at least.
>Vader wants to convert Luke to the dark side, not kill him, because it's his son, so he toys with him. The moment Vader goes full offensive mode you can see he fucks Luke up in 20 seconds.
>Result: Luke looses the fight miserably, looses his arm, is forced to jump down, luckily surviving.
Rey:
>Doesn't know what the force is having only heard about it from a random alien in a cantina, who told her that it surrounds and binds us or whatever it was.
>Lived her entire life on some isolate planet, no way of knowing what jedi powers even are.
>No jedi training
>Haven't met a jedi in her life
>Has the ability to mind trick
>Has the ability to force grab a lightsaber
>Beats a force user trained his entire life by the likes of Luke Skywalker and Snoke with abilities like stopping a blaster shot mid air.
If this shit isn't retarded than I don't know what is.
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>>91880070
WHO'S YUR GIRLFRIEND?
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>>91880074
Someone bought a Bossk at Walmart, swapped it out and put an old Ponda Baba in the package instead and then returned it, but for some reason went the extra mile and painted Ponda Baba to look somewhat like Bossk (Walmart customer service employees rarely care enough to check if the figure matches the picture on the package).
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>>91879836
It's okay. Could be better, but not too terrible.

Looks ten times better without the cape, though. Which is a shame.
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>>91880058
Sure, he may be whiny -- I wasn't the one who said that. But are you really trying to tell me that Anakin and Luke weren't whiny little bitches too?
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>>91880110
>Complex
>I want to rule the galaxy and be a badass like my Grandpa

He's literally neo-nazi skinhead.

He may be more complex in TLJ and IX, but that's his entire character in TFA. If you seriously think you can prove me wrong, go for it, but I doubt you'll produce anything that isn't headcanon or projecting.
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>>91880156
Maybe I should rig up a cape then for him when I get his figure.

Thanks for the info anon! Very helpful.
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>>91879997
Dennis
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>>91879836
You decide
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Codes of the Sith and Jedi are still canon cool
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>>91880134
I mean I don't understand that one drawfag with Ezra and saying OI WHOS YA BOYFRIEND
where does this shit come from
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>>91876973
>Tea, Earl Grey, hot Edition

Is that a Jojo reference?
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>>91880168
No. Luke and Anakin were whiny bitches. Being a whiny bitch is part and parcel with the Skywalker lineage.
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>>91880185
Does it come with the memes?
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>whiny little faggot that tries to look cool and jobs to a girl
>established as a threat at the beginning then fails through the whole movie
>carries the film by acting circles around the rest of the cast

>is beloved by /swg/

REALLY MADE ME THINK
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>>91880127
All you explained to me is that Luke can beat Rey. Luke should not have lasted more than two seconds against Vader.

>Luke had days of Obi-Wan telling him how the force works and how to us it in ANH.
Anakin had a decade of that
>Luke had 3 years of self improvement time [after Obi Wan]
Anakin had 19 years of that
>Luke had WEEKS with Yoda
Anakin had a decade of that

Yes, Vader didn't want to kill him, I agree with that. But we see Luke doing far better than he logically should. Which is FINE because it's a fucking fantasy movie; we want our hero to overcome difficult odds.
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>>91880202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtmK0wHOaPQ
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>>91880202
In one of the Canon YA books Ezra and Bossk team up and become friends.
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>>91880222
Right, so what's your point?
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>>91880256
My question is where the fuck did this come from before this? Like why did that kid even make that video?
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>Battlefront 2 trailer
>Starkiller Base trooper models have TLJ armor

jj cucked
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All of the star wars have been troublingly speciesist and humanocentric. When are we going to have a nonhuman lead?

I'd watch the shit out of a movie of whatever Bor Gullet is just going around and mindraping people, and fighting with multiple blaster-miniguns strapped to its tentacles
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>>91880269
Only that Kylo is a whiny bitch in the latter half of the movie, and I disliked that in his character, as it was inconsistent with his introduction in the opening of the movie.

For better or worse that's his character. Being a whiny bitch. If it's intentional, that's great, but that doesn't automatically make it good writing, or him a good villain.
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>>91880259
WHEN THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN
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>>91880292
I think its a quote from TCW where Ventress becomes a bounty hunter and winds up with Bossk to do that mission to Quarzite

but I still cant explain the meme
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>>91880326
It's in the Archive, go check it out.

It's isn't bad, but very much child oriented
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>>91880319
>Only that Kylo is a whiny bitch in the latter half of the movie, and I disliked that in his character, as it was inconsistent with his introduction in the opening of the movie.
Yeah, that's the point. If you don't like it, okay, but don't act like that's an inconsistency. He's trying to act tough, but he's really just an emo kid.

It's just ironic that you're writing him off for being whiny even though it's something we see in both Anakin and Luke.
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>>91880326
Almost 3 years ago -- one of the first things to come out. It was out before Rebels even started.
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>>91880368
I'm not writing him off. We've only had one shitty movie with him. He could be fine in other entries.

But I did think he was garbage in TFA. Just like Ani was garbage in AOTC and Luke was garbage in ANH and most of ESB.
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>>91880376
theres an unbelievable amount of background shit in the prequels that have like half a frame of visibility, its great, even in the OT theres plenty of difficult to notice background ships

I love sperging out over star wars vehicles
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>Vardos is an imperial friendly imperial controlled city

>AT-ATs marching on AT AT with soldiers patrolling as its on fire

what did the devs mean by this
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>>91880292
https://youtu.be/76nR1tWPT7c?t=162

2:43
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>>91880248
>Luke should not have lasted more than two seconds against Vader
>Yes, Vader didn't want to kill him, I agree with that
So which is it?
>we see Luke doing far better than he logically should.
How so? He's never on top in this fight, and he gets fucked up in the end. How is that overcoming the odds?? After literally first 2 blows in the fight Vader knocks Luke to the ground.
Luke has a lot of training, but Vader is more powerful therefore he defeats him.
Rey is a full blown jedi after 0 [zero] training. She barely even knows what the force is, but she can mind trick and force grab lightsabers.
That's my problem with maRey sue.
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>>91880490
I miss her mates... she was so cute

at least she died a waifu
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>>91880519
>So which is it?
>If I remove the context, his argument won't work!
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>>91879527
>cgi lekku
Those madmen will do it
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I get the sense that a Whill will end up being what a member of the Order of the Whills is called instead of the force god things. When you look at the history of the Whill concept the only real time 'whill' is used as a sort of godly being is when Qui-Gon learns how to become a force ghost from a Shaman of the Whills in the script for Revenge of the Sith. This sort of turned into him learning from a Whill and then because you don't just learn how to become a ghost from a random jack off (and because the Order of the Whills is supposed to be ancient) it turned into Whills being gods. 'Whill' was also the name of the force in the original script and the idea was that you would 'will' things into happening like willing a ship to float out of a swamp for example.

Now though Guardians of the Whills has explained that the Guardian title is only a subset of the Ancient Order of the Whills and that the members of this Order (who are regular people) are the ones who transcribe everything, not some weird force gods. It also explains that the Order of the Whills uses the term 'Force' so they don't call this mystical energy the Whill like in George's original scripts.

Basically a Whill is an average member of the Order of the Whills and this order will eventually go on to transcribe the saga from R2. Chirrut is a Whill. This also shits all over those Episode 8 leaks from MSW that act as if the Whills are gods.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0xoqYlpLBg
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>>91880449
>the show ends with them BDZing Lothal
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>>91880538
wut? Your argument is at first trying to say that Vader is more powerful than Luke therefore he should've beaten him faster. And then you say "I agree with you that Vader didn't beat him faster because he didn't want to kill Luke". What the actual fuck?
And also what about the second part of my response? That's my main point.
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>>91880449
>>91880623
>Thrawn is on Lothal when it happens
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>>91880549
Going further into this I think I have a good idea of how the Jedi Order started now. A bunch of force religions and philosophers ended up going together to Jedha to share their information. They ended up forming the Order of the Whills to transcribe everything into volumes (one of these being a history book called the Journal of the Whills). The people of Jedha were called Jedi and eventually people started referring to members of the Order as Jedi. Then while these Whills would go around transcribing they would solve conflicts here and there until they ended up forming the Jedi Order specifically to be peacekeepers while the Order of the Whills stayed transcribers.
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they're not going to glass a major source of death star building materials especially when they're still desperately scouring kyber from the likes of Jedha even with an already extant superlaser, they're just strip mining it
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>>91880449
>>91880623
>>91880675
He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even cause the ones you cared about to die...
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>>91880697
They can fuck the surface up all they want to remove the rebels, it wouldn't harm the kybers and doonium underneath.
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>book pretending that Pryce is sexy
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>>91880678
>The people of Jedha were called Jedi

GOD I FEEL LIKE A RETARD
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>>91880889
The book takes into account all the usual things straight men/lesbians care about in women: a woman with big breasts. Personal opinions based on a stylized cartoon don't matter in text.
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>>91880944
IIRC according to the Rogue One visual guide it's meant to be one of those things where the history's been muddled and it's not clear which came first- if Jedha was named after the Jedi, or if the Jedi were named after Jedha.
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>>91880889
Force Arena Pryce is a qt
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inb4 TLJ bombs the fuck out of the TOR era
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>>91880889
she could have been
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>>91881090
honestly a good way to sell the show
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>>91877126
Well she is freaking 15 and your character is like 30 or so...... Doesnt really work out that well.
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>>91880716
I wish he would slap my ass
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>>91881329
Paint yourself blue and give that ass a spanking then anon, it isn't rocket science
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>>91880889
What? Where does it pretend this?
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>>91880952
I don't remember them talking much about Pryce's breasts in Thrawn, which is a damn shame because I want to read a lot more about them
I want her to be my dommy mommy
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>>91881586
When the Moff blows his load on Pryce.
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>>91880183
D - Destroy a Jedi Master
E - Earn Plaptaine's respect
N - Never stray from the dark path
N - Neglect my lightsaber skills
I - Injured by a lowly padawan
S - Separate my upper half from my lower half
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>>91881203
That gunner looked pretty cool desu.
That's a pretty skilled gunner too
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this wouldve been a better final villainess for rebels
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>>91881683
I kekd
Remake of It's always sunny with star wars characters when?
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>>91881729
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always sunny is fucking trash, keep it the hell away from star wars
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>>91881843
Dennis- Han
Charlie-Luke
Dee-princess leia
Mac-Chewie
Frank-ben kenobi
Dennis and Dee's mom-Darth Vader
Accurate?
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So wait, was Jango a Mando, or was he just disavowed by the government?
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>>91881923
there's no evidence he has any connection to mandalore outside of acquiring the armor

of course that might be expanded upon, but I don't think LSG has any intention of doing so
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>>91881923
Jango was a Mandoboo who does not have any Mando blood running thru his veins.
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>>91881883
What? Half of it is pretty good though. It might get worse in later seasons but 2-7 is considered pretty good
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Would the next Star Wars RPG be better if you could be a non-human and non-Jedi?

MMOs don't count.
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>>91880449
>Base Delta Zero
>the literal melting of the crust
>when Atollon's bombardment couldn't even kill a blind man on a motorcycle

lol
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>>91881246
She's an alien tho and they mature much faster.
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>>91881923
Legends says he was born on the Mandalorian planet Concord Dawn.

Canon says he's a bounty hunter that claims to have been born on Concord Dawn.
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>>91881906

Not having Darth Vader be Rickety Cricket.
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>>91881958
Well he's from Concord Dawn, which is in Mandalorian space. I dunno, the way Satine and the others disavowed him just made it seem a like a "no true Scotsman" sorta thing.
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>>91881906
Wait who would Tarkin be?
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>>91881883

Look at this jabroni.
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>>91882060
>Star Wars Spice Frieghter Simulator
I'd play it
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>>91881906

Can the Trash Man be Boba Fett?
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>>91882145
The lawyer would be Tarkin.

The McPoyles would be Tusken Raiders.
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>>91882144
For what it's worth Pablo has reaffirmed that he's not Mandalorian and only claimed to have been born on Concord Dawn, so it seems like it goes beyond just being a Mandalorian that's been disavowed.
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I wish he had been in a film. He's probably my favourite character, at this point
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>>91882248
dumb blue sherlock
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Someone please post the pic of sheev where it says 'i love democracy' and then has the sunny titlecard
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>super genius
>doesn't wear the right rank code to work
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>>91882166
>>91882145
>>91882119
Dennis- Han
Charlie-Luke
Dee-princess leia
Mac-Chewie
Frank-ben kenobi
Ricket-Darth
Tarkin-lawyer
Trash man-possibly boba fett
It could be funny having Ben die and then coming back as boba
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>>91882330
I know it's a joke, but they probably reused the asset for the body and didn't care to check

still triggers my autism though
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>>91882300
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>>91882364
>Ricket-Darth

Ah yes, my favourite star wars character. Darth.
>>
I work in marketing for Disney related channels and our team was just allowed to see a specific episode of Rebels for the purposes of cutting together a 'next week on -tv show-' style trailer. The episode we saw was set right after the big opening episode and dealt with the Rebels going to Jedha from Rogue One. Here's how it went:
>Saw Gerrera found out the Empire was doing something big on Jedha using clues from his last mission with the Rebels.
>Ezra and Kanan are sent to Jedha to assist Saw in finding out what the Empire is doing and during their mission they find out the Empire is removing some books from a temple including a book called The Journal of the Whills. This book is the one you see in the trailer for The Last Jedi.
>Kanan was going to take Ezra to the temple to teach him more about the history of the Jedi anyways so they agree to start by stealing the Journal of the Whills from the Empire
>they get stuck in the temple when the Empire decides to close the area off completely and send in a big excavation team including a huge vehicle used for mineral extraction
>Ezra and Kanan realize that the Empire is intending to mine the temple for the other crystals underneath it
>Saw wants to destroy the temple to stop the Empire's efforts but Kanan and Ezra try and stop him since the temple is so historically significant and they don't want the Empire to increase their presence on the planet and further subjugate the people living on Jedha
>they lose Saw as they're sneaking out and find out that he rigged the mining vehicle with explosives and set them off with innocents nearby
>they escape the temple in a firefight and the episode ends with the alliance formally disassociating with Saw and a Star Destroyer occupying Jedha like you see in Rogue One
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>>91882406
alright fine I'll do his whole title. Darth Hater of sand, defiler of padme amidala and daughter, masturbating hand chopped offer of luke skywalker, killer of ben kenobi, betrayer of Sheev, first of his name, whiny bitch, 6 foot black and can't get a date, chosen one, force ghost, Vader
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>>91882450
>Rebel Alliance disassociates with Saw like a month or two before Rogue One

hurrrrrrrrrrr BRAVO
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>>91882512
>Season 4 is less than a year from RO
When will this meme end?
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>>91882450
that's bullshit but I believe it
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>>91882512
To be fair the trailer for season 4 does show Saw hanging out with the Rebels so they actually do disassociate with him like a month before Rogue One.
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>>91882564
how do we know its just a month before R1 and not 6 months? 12 months? 18?
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>>91882588
Just like Groot right?
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>>91882617
I'm just going off what this guy said:
>>91882512
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>>91882394
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The greatest enemy of the Rebellion is that I bet most of the Rebels would call the New Republic tyrannical as soon as it tried to take control of the worlds it had just helped free.
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>>91882617
We don't.

>>91882588
From the actual mouth of Filoni, the battle of Scarif is not about the Ghost crew, it has no reason to be a main feature of their story. Especially so in the last 15 episodes of said story. Now if the show had continued past this season, that's a different thing.
>>
I want to read lewd things about Thrawn. Like him and Eli cuddling
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Is Splinter of the Mind's Eye any good? Never gave it a look
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>>91882844
>tfw there's no fapfics of Pryce AT ALL
all I want to do is read about Pryce milking my sissy dick while smothering me with her giant bosoms is that really so much to ask?
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>>91883062
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>>91877103
Did someone say Picard thread?
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>>91883430
On closer inspection of Rogue One, the scene in which blue squadron races to the gate requires massive suspension of disbelief, because in one shot it shows the gate very closeby but in the following shot, the gate is now far away and requires them to travel some distance towards it. Are you supposed to believe that these X-Wings flew up, away from the gate, and then flew towards it? That seems counterproductive and stands as a primary example of why Rogue One is a terrible movie.
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>>91883936
Yep, that's definitely a Wesley opinion.
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>>91883936
Not this time Wheaton
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>>91883936
Shut up Wesley
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Star Wars: WHAT IF

What if the second Death Star was fully completely by the time of Return of the Jedi?
Was there literally ANYTHING the rebellion could've done to oppose it?

>no Galen weakness
>even more technologically advanced
>bigger, scarier laser
>probably had a good amount of restaurants too I mean really there's a lot of people on board
>maybe a holonet library
>pools?

They'd be unstoppable.
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>>91884208
Look at it. LOOK AT IT.
Now imagine it complete.
See?
I told you. Unstoppable.
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>>91882248
It's not too late. Saw Gerrera got to be in a movie. You think they wont ever have an Imperial as a main villain and think "hey we can use Thrawn?"
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>>91884208
What would Sheev do to curb the illegals sneaking onto Death Star II everytime a shipment of supplies came in?
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>>91884279
Think Maul! How do they do it in the movies?!
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>>91884320
Probably twirl and force lightning.
Yes. At every shipment.
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>>91884208
>Sneak some jihadis on board
>Bomb the reactor
>"Aloha Snackbar"
>DS2 blows up because the Galen weakness is still there and all they got rid of was the exhaust port that lead to it
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>>91884208
>no Galen weakness
Not necessarily. Try imagining:

Piece A can only fit to piece B. Piece B can only fit to piece C.

Remove Piece B and Piece A can't connect to Piece C anymore.

Then add the issue of things such as overheating for example. Now you'll probably have to add in sophisticated cooling, but where are you going to put it?

Point of the matter is - Krennic is fucking retarded and should have treated Galen better as clearly he is not Galen's intellectual equal or he would have picked up the issue in some kind of peer review.

DS-2 was probably a complete do-over.
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So I decided to practice drawing by drawing different aliens from different series as Green Lanterns, what do you guys think?
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>>91883936
Shut your fucking mouth Wesley or I swear to God....
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>>91884208
>>91884247
The troopers and officers aboard devolve into tribalism over petty workplace politics and the death star becomes inoperable due to lack of personnel to maintain it.
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>>91884279
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>>91877332

Veers is the alpha Imperial, I assume that's why he and Thrawn fug in your fanfics
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>>91884419
Not bad. Not bad at all.
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>>91877332
How did Krennic get so tan?
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>>91884761
He didn't wear a hat when he was out in the sun
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why was an admiral on the D-Star anyway
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This was my first exposure to star wars
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>>91879656
Ah shit. I keked hard.
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>>91884279
>*record scratch*
>*freeze frame*
>Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation...
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>>91884827
This looks like a Star Wars edit of Legacy of Goku
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>>91884419
One trick you can do with Star Wars stuff is the models from Force Arena were ripped. You can import them into Blender, change the camera and use it as drawing refs.
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>>91884419
Its pretty decent, although there is much more improvement that needs to be done.
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>>91884208
I'm assuming the Force would go full homicidal mode.

Speaking of that, fuck Kylo Ren. His rampage made the Force get depression.
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>>91884279
>How it feels to chew 5 Gum
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>>91884827
This was mine.

Literally turned the /tv/ on to this scene. Wasn't too interested and kept on playing with cousins. It was the mid 90's.
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Name a better moment in the saga.

Protip: You can't
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>>91885133
A better use is modders putting them into games.
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>>91885601
when han dies
so epic
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>>91885601
>jarjar_steps_in_poodoo.gif
kinoest of kinos right there my amigo
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>>91877042
it hurts, man
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>>91876973
star wars stupid
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>>91886437
u stupid
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>>91886437
>>91886462
both stupid
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slow thread i see
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>>91887076

It's the wee morining hours. Everyone's asleep.
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THE SINGULARITY ENGINE
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>>91887175
The mind-bender Borganis
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>>91887192

And FATHER. The man who gave him life, and left him to die.
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>>91887192
quite the noggin
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>>91885599

I tuned in during the Battle of Hoth and saw Snowspeeders and Imperial Walkers.

>>91884827

This was a fun game
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>>91884827
This was my first exposure to video games.

And now, I'm a fucking huge /v/irgin.
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>>91884827
Pretty sure it was playinf the demo of X-Wing Alliance for ages on my dads computer.

Possibly some reruns of ANH on tv. Remember trying to record all of them on tape once when they had a marathon.
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>>91889399
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how many times was ahsoka captured and almost raped in her life?
like at least three or four right?
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>>91889568
at least
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>>91889568
>>91889612
DELET THIS
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>>91880183
Can Dennis survive Bigger Boot?
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>>91889736
Who's Bigger Boot ?
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>>91889841
Belongs to the terrifying sea monster, The Cyclops.
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>>91889399
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>>91889695
Saved.
Also, she's clearly the one that does the raping.
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>Filoni said Kallus is still alive because he thought it would be a bad message to have a character die/punished for helping the heroes and turning against the Empire
>mfw I remember Tua

Dave you motherfucker
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>>91889695
>>91889612
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>>91890802

Her only mistake was not joining in the righteous Jihad against the Jedi that Barriss began.
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>>91890802
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>>91877286
Kylo, as shitty as he was, still has SOME potential for '''a''' story.

Finn was a great concept that got immediately ruined by being turned into Jar Jar Binks.

>A stormtrooper emotionally unprepared for war.
>Happily shoots at his comrades as soon as he escapes with his new rebel friend.

Why would a brainwashed stormie even think of befriending a rebel? Truly, Ren was right: Hux's stormtroopers suck, bring back the clone army.
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>>91890802
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>>91890893
you know its a joke right? Ahsoka is one of the most beautiful things SW has ever created. adult ahsoka, not that skinny tween bullshit
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>>91890802
Need an edit with an arrow pointing down instead of the !
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>>91889472
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>>91879696
>translated from Qotsisajak
???
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>>91891043
pointing down at what. clarify your statement
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>>91891094
His shoes.
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>>91891107
ohhh haha i get what you mean.

i will will fucking kill you Ahsoka is life
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>>91878002
its not really an excuse considering it was done intentionally
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As someone who absolutely loved The Clone Wars is Rebels worth watching?
If so where can I get it cus Ausflix hasn't got it
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>>91891152
Yes but don't get your expectations too high. It's significantly worse than tcw with lower lows and lower highs. Still enjoyable though.

It should all be in the OP
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>>91891152
i got a link for you but hold on i gotta pee ok
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>>91891152
Rebels is, in Filoni's own words, the conclusion of TCW. It is absolutely top quality Star Wars, but there are two things worth knowing beforehand;

1) The show has (especially in season 1) a much smaller budget. Filoni had to re-adjust with a cheaper, although very picturesque artstyle. This might be shocking to adjust too at first, because frankly The Clone Wars was in an entirely other league. Lucas wanted TCW to have the quality of the big screen, but in a tv format. Rebels will initially feel like a more understandable tv/cartoon series.

2) The tone of the show is in the vain of ANH. Most people shrug and think "Oh that's fine", but end up completely shocked at just how much more lighthearted the show is compared to TCW. TCW, in the later seasons, was in the tone of ROTS, which when you think about it, is very fucking dark.

It is worth mentioning that the show does get better visually, and the tone matures and darkens. But coming off of ANH, it might be very easy to look at the first few episodes of Rebels and think "This is just a kids show, it's nothing like TCW was."

But stick with it, and I promise you will enjoy it. There is plenty to love, and some stuff that even rivals the peak of TCW.
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>>91891255

I'd say TCW in later seasons was darker than ROTS; but spot on, quite honestly, familial.
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>>91891152
Yes, I think Rebels is worth watching. >>91891255
hit the nail on the head, it very much feels like a slightly darker ANH which is a lot more light-hearted than TCW (especially the end of TCW). The first season can be a bit of a drag but season 2 and 3 are really worth it.
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>>91890904
>Truly, Ren was right: Hux's stormtroopers suck, bring back the clone army.

It would make sense for the FO to utilize the clones more than child soldiers. We know that Snoke has a shitton of cash (somehow). We know that the FO is charting the Unknown Regions, ergo more cash from the resource-rich planets untouched by the galactic industry. We know that the FO has both the rich Centrist worlds in the Core supporting it, as well as a cut of the profits of criminal organizations rising up in the Hutts' wake.

Loads of income. Enough to justify major arms manufacturers starting shell companies and equipping them with state-of-the-art weaponry and spacecraft. Starkiller Base was a bit too much, even considering all this backing, but still, case in point. Hiring cloners to raise an army for them would be a spit in a sea for the FO. Fast, cost effective, proven. You could even tie it into the theme of the First Order aspiring to be what the Empire "should have been". The Empire not replacing the exceptionally trained glorious Grand Army that once saved the galaxy from the chaos of the Separatists with incompetent careerist Stormtrooper recruits who let the Emperor they were sworn to protect down. Soldiers literally bred to fight and die for the PEACE and SECURITY of the citizens of the First Order.

The long game plan of taking young kids and going through grueling conditioning with them - that's not something a junta hiding on the galactic frontier can afford. I mean, I appreciate the idea, it's wonderfully Orwellian, but in the political context of the SW canon, it's ass backwards. The Empire had the time and manpower to do something like this - the FO shouldn't have.
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>>91891152
here you go newfriend have fun. rebels is garbage until season 3. https://gomovies.to/film/star-wars-the-clone-wars-season-1-6856/
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>>91891320

First order should just use droids.

I mean, look at these guys. They're cute.
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>>91891320
But Anon, you just CAN'T have clones in nu-Star Wars.
You're supposed to hate everything from the prequels, remember ?
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>>91891320
>Soldiers literally bred to fight and die for the PEACE and SECURITY of the citizens of the First Order.

This was part of the original lore from the Empire from the 1978, and part of the reason prequels' Clone Army was made in the first place. I don't get why they backpedaled on the clone-ty of Imperial Stormtroopers. It's a perfect thing for the Galactic Empire.

I mean, now even George's joke about "Jango's head-bumping habits being cloned into all of stormtroopers" makes no sense. Sad!
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>>91891435
>The holiday planet of Sochi

lol
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>>91891377
Did somebody say cute battle droids?
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>>91891601

qt 3.14 battledroids don't even want to fuck, they're just happy to spend time with you.
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>>91891614
>tfw current year, no B1 japanese hostesses yet
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>>91891652

*roger rogers in sorrow*
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>>91891601
you are a sad man
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>>91891152
People seem to forget that the first season of TCW was completely goofy, childish, and for me personally uninteresting.
Only in later seasons it picked up to be something great.
Same goes for Rebels.
Season 1 is pretty much kids show, imo still enjoyable. Seasons 2 and 3 are much better. And as someone already said, they close out, or at least continue some of TCW open ends. So you might be satisfied...
As for where you can find it, links are in the OP.
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>>91891614
>mfw SBD chads drop in to take my precious QT-P2Ts away from me
>mfw I pull out my lightsaber (orange of course) and get my droideka homies to roll up on the chads
>mfw QT-P2T rogers my roger after showing I'm the alpha
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fuck j j
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>>91890426

>Tua believed in the good of the Empire until she witnessed its violence firsthand

>Kallus reveled in his sociopathy until he hung out with Zeb for a bit and then realized in the Empire he has no friends

Is the real message that life's unfair?
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>>91891963
>filename
delet this
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>>91891320
>The Empire had the time and manpower to do something like this - the FO shouldn't have

But not the money. Remember, they had to put that shit elsewhere. As tyrannical as the Empire was, they still, to some degree, had to give a shit about public opinion of them.

But granted about with the First Order. They're, to the core, a military entity. If they have the monetary resources you believe they do, then initiating a cloning program would prove very useful. Even if it isn't one that is as large as the GAR. 1/3 highly trained clones and 2/3 kidnapped children that are slightly over Imperial Stormtroopers in combat quality is still a decent force to command.
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>Love Canon and have been following it with a passion
>Hate the ST to my bones to the point where I get stressed thinking about it.

Lucasfilm has done a phenomenal job slowly fleshing out the canon Galaxy these past three years. (Aftermath withstanding of course)

But then you get to TFA, and it goes so, so fucking wrong.

I mean... Fucking Starkiller man. Everything about it. Every single possible thing about it was wrong. How it looks, what it does, why it exists, how it exists, what happens to it, what happens on it. It fucking hurts my brain thinking about the fucking thing. I hate it so goddamnfucking much. It is unironically the biggest mistake in the history of the franchise, and TFA is forever going to be looked back on the worst SW movie because of it, no exceptions.

The only thing that gives me hope about the ST is that Lucasfilm is back in complete control, and no matter what they do next, they will never ever sink as low as Starkiller again
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>>91891963
The real message is shitty writing.
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>>91892332
>TFA is forever going to be looked back on the worst SW movie because of it

I honestly wish it too, but it's never gonna happen, because of all the blind prequel haters.
I mean damn, you're right about Starkiller but I also heard people defending it with the only argument of
>member the Death Star ?
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>>91892437
I have seen people this week defending Starkiller base with "Bu-but they had the Death star in RotJ and that film was good so it's okay to have it the third time."
I'm not even joking.
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>>91892512
To be fair, that's not entirely wrong. People shit all over TFA for being a rehash of Episode 4, but RotJ gets a free pass. That doesn't make Starkiller Base a good thing, necessarily, but it shows a bit of a double standard.
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>>91892437
Tides are changing man. Even the godawful Youtube comments are increasingly critical of TFA/favorable to the Prequels.

Demographically, Pablo says far more people enjoy the prequels than not.

You can say you weren't fond of Jar Jar, or that you didn't like some of the dialogue of the PT. But you could never accuse the PT of being so uninspired that they aren't even worth watching. I've re-watched Rogue One more times than TFA already. I've re-watched ANH more times since TFA came out too. TFA simply isn't worth watching to me. It has nothing going for it. It's a rehash in the most uninspired way.

Starkiller is the nail in the coffin. Like you took the Death Star, and scraped every single shred of value from it. Any sense of storytelling, any sense of threat, any ANYTHING.

Starkiller Base is the most vapid and meaningless thing in the entire franchise. It's supposed to be this huge and memorable point in Star Wars history, a huge battlestation that destroyed an entire system, but does it feel that way? Does it give the same emotional response of interest for more storytelling, as the first Death Star? Or the formation or the Empire? Or ANY major event in the previous movies (or books, cartoons, ect?)

The fucking Malevolence in TCW had more meaning and weight to it.
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>>91892437
>implying anyone who dislikes the prequels is memeing
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>>91892332
Same here. When you read about the different writing styles and story composition George used in the saga you realize that TFA doesn't fit at all in his saga. The EU doesn't really fit either but at least Luke actually made another Jedi Order that was for the most part pretty successful.
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>>91892546
I can't speak for everyone but the DS2 is one of the thing that keeps RotJ from being in my top favorite Star Wars movies.
That, the ewoks, and the infamous song at Jabba's, of course.
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>>91892579
That's why I said "blind" haters
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>>91891963
>>91890426
Tua was a bureaucratic peon desperate to save her own skin after hearing blithe threats against her. She immediately went running to the Rebels for help with bargaining chips to betray the Empire. Her defection was selfish. She's pathetic, in all meanings of the word.

Kallus on the other hand clearly tried to rationalize and play up his brutality, the same way stormfags joke about the holocaust, but it's clear that he wasn't proud of being a murderous war criminal. His defection is slow, and the reason he does it is not, as it would seem, selfish. He doesn't become Fulcrum for personal gain or physical or psychological health, he's not trying to do it to get friends, he does it to atone in some small way for the massacre of Lasan, to help the man who helped him, to help that man's friends and family.

Tua is like Wernher von Braun.
Kallus is Oskar Schindler.

>>91892579
>implying anyone who dislikes the prequels ISN'T memeing

>>91892585
death star ii and ewoks were good though
Jedi Rocks, not so much
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>>91892573
>You can say you weren't fond of Jar Jar, or that you didn't like some of the dialogue of the PT.
>But you could never accuse the PT of being so uninspired that they aren't even worth watching.

Does being original excuse their faults though? I think the world building and a lot of the concepts in AotC are second to none, but I think TFA is still an altogether better movie in every other sense.

Also, you can't just decide how people are allowed to criticize movies. I might not be able to "accuse the PT of being so uninspired that they aren't even worth watching," but I could say "AotC is so poorly paced and directed that it isn't even worth watching."
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>>91892585
I can forgive the DS2 because, from a "climax to the trilogy" standpoint, it works well.

>Oh, well I have to have a BIGGER space fight for the grand finale, right?

And they did. It was bigger, more exciting, creatively phenomenal at the time. They even came up with a brand new, exciting way to destroy the Death Star.

On top of that, it was two movies after ANH, and even when you factor in the prequels, remained only the second superweapon. So even then, the DS2 wasn't really overdoing it.

Now compare to TFA;

>Starkiller is chronologically right after ROTJ, meaning BACK-TO-BACK superweapon climaxes
>Also making 3/4 of the past 4 movies having superweapon climaxes, now creating a blatant overuse
>not even an original method of destruction, they literally have a trench run rip-off
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>>91892635
>implying anyone who dislikes the prequels ISN'T memeing
Oh fuck off, you know that's not true. Prequel hate was around since day one, even if it's become more popular lately.
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>>91892437
>I honestly wish it too, but it's never gonna happen, because of all the blind prequel haters.

It's not like there are that many. They were the minority when the prequels were coming out and that percentage is only getting smaller as more and more new fans come about.

People just assume there are so many because they bitch about their dislike of the PT so much.
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>>91892658
>they literally have a trench run rip-off

Without Vader in his pimped TIE to put some pressure on the protag, and without the neat Force-trick to target the Galen point, on top of that.
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>>91892546
I know, but just because it worked the second time, doesn't mean you should go for the third time.
Again, they never had to have something as big as the death star to begin with, and because of this, they're going to have trouble trying to top this in episode 9.

>>91892579
He's not wrong. People who generally dislike the prequels for legit reasons aren't vocal about it. But nearly all comments you see hating the PT are people using buzzwords like "bad dialogue" and "wooden acting", strawman arguments, sand and jar jar memes, everything is CGI, telling people to watch RLM etc.
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>>91892643
how is TFA a better movie when its story meanders all the over the place, oftentimes forgetting who and what the characters are or are supposed to be doing

AOTC has a fairly easy to follow and entertaining general plot, a political thriller entwined with a star-crossed romance, culminating in an epic battle

>>91892660
they were memes then, they're memes now
and I mean that literally, virtually all critique, both professional and audience, was positive, until comedy shows started shitting on them for easy laughs, causing normies to go "haha yeah I guess that's kind of silly", then those same banal jokes got repeated to infinity until people didn't know anything BUT those satirical jokes and started taking them seriously
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>>91892660
Prequel hate was around since the beginning (nobody was even saying otherwise) but the movies were still getting a lot of positive reception and praise.

Hate exponentially increased post-2005 once the hype had died down.

It is now finally simmering down as people admit that they aren't nearly as bad as some people made out.

TFA gave people a reality check too.
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>>91892688
gay
Pryce is for titwanking her harem of dickgirl slaves
Thrawn is for saving the new republic in the sequel trilogy
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>>91892643
I think being original and offering positive addition to the universe makes them more credible than TFA ever could be.

Yes, you can argue that we find different things important, but I care more about the overall story of Star Wars, than I do about getting a "technically safe and sound" movie that adds dogshit. As a Star Wars fan, this is just how I think. I can forgive some sappy dialogue and poor pacing if I am getting some kick ass Star Wars.
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>>91892688
Thrawn hates Pryce anon. Didn't you read the Thrawn book?
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Starkiller doesn't annoy me as much because it's fucking gone. But we still have to deal with Rey for two movies and god knows how many in the new trilogies that will follow. I don't want the most pathetic excuse of a character who earned her powers through her vagina privilege be plastered on every SW product 10 years from now.
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>> I can see it now
what's your call sign?
imperial?….one?….imperial one!
imperial one?
>>
After reading Bloodline I'm not sure if the Legends NR or the Canon NR is more dysfunctional.

I mean the EU's NR had many moments of braindead idiocy, whether it was blaming the humans for everything or starting a anti-Jedi crusade or pissing about while the Yuuzhan Vong were busy gobbling up the outer rim and then managing to lose Coruscant. But at least they didn't descend into political parties shitflinging, and at least they didn't elect literal New Order LARPers as senators.
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>>91889841
>Who's Bigger Boot?
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>>91892660
>yfw you realise that there are people still trying hard to shit on a film for 18 years instead of moving on
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>>91892816
I hope we get to see Rogue Squadron in this game
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>>91892711
How the fuck is bad dialogue and acting a buzzword? Those are completely legitimate complaints, even if you disagree with them.

>memes
Most of that goes along with the dialogue. And Jar Jar complaints are real too; you can't just discredit it by calling it a meme. He was fucking hated from release; it was like the one thing that nearly everyone agreed upon.

>everything is CGI
While I agree that more people need to know about the insane use of practical effects, there are times where the effects don't look great.

>telling people to watch RLM
Barely anyone even knows about RLM when it comes to the wider audience.

>Prequel hate was around since the beginning (nobody was even saying otherwise) but the movies were still getting a lot of positive reception and praise.
And TFA got a lot of positive reception and praise. It was extremely well received.
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>Reys force abilities are explained in a genius Lucasfi keikaku and she's humbled to fuck in TLJ and IX

>people still still hate the charter because she sucked in one movie by a shitty director that made it a mystery

I see it now
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>>91892827
Borsk Fey'lya did nothing wrong
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>>91892867
>And TFA got a lot of positive reception and praise. It was extremely well received.
Not by the core fans. In that regard TFA is the opposite of the Prequels.

Normies didn't like the Prequels, found it hard to relate to. TFA is the opposite.
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>>91892784
>Yes, you can argue that we find different things important
Right, that's my whole point. As a SW fan, that's a solid opinion to have; it's what makes me enjoy the prequels too, despite their flaws.

But you have to realize that MOST people don't care as much about that as they do about having a great time at the movie. That's why TFA will not be remembered as the worst SW film, like you or some other anon posited.
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>>91892858
Wait, why the fuck are people talking about Star Wars in this thread?
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Can the next thread be Ashoka edition?
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> that room that looks like Cloud City in Reys vision is actually the cloning lab on Jakku
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>>91892893
>Not by the core fans
That depends on who you consider the core fans, I guess. But you're right, major SW fans were more critical of it than casuals in general.

But do criticisms not count if they're not from the core fans?
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>>91892894
To the core fanbase, I believe TFA will be remembered as the worst.

The normies may always hold it in higher regard than the Prequels, but the core fanbase will always appreciate the prequels more.

Even Pablo put 2/3 of the PT above it. If his opinion of TFA is that low just a single year after release, I wouldn't be surprised if he even puts it at the bottom some day.
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>>91892877
he did literally everything wrong

>>91892827
Legends is far worse, it was nothing but a continuous disaster from year one until it was destroyed (again, and again) throughout the legacy era

at the very least, the New Republic had about 30 good years of stability and peace until TFA fucked it up, which is more than Sheev's empire had

>>91892918
you're early, but I sure hope so
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>>91892916
Interesting to note;

>Kylo really is losing his helmet wtf man
>Rey seems to be dressed like a traditional Padawan. Looks like that "Time for the Jedi to end" thing really was meaningless "trailer shock" controversy.
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>>91892918
Just to it yourself, famigo

>>91892922
Wait what ? Did I miss something ?
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>>91892962
>>Kylo really is losing his helmet wtf man

Snoke telling him to be his own man and stop using Vader as a crutch. I'm guessing he is the one who smashes his helmet
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>>91892962
She looks a lot like Qui Gon/Satele Shan. I'm hoping that he gets another helmet, he just doesnt look as cool without it.
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>>91892827
While Canon did have to turn a blind eye to some retardness to allow the FO to rise again, it is at least more believable and acceptable than the GCW dragging on for fucking ever in Legends.
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>>91892867
>And TFA got a lot of positive reception and praise. It was extremely well received.

By people who either aren't familiar to the franchise or have been massive prequel haters since day one. When the people who shout at the top of their lungs about their hate of something use it to shout about something they like, of course everyone's going to hear about it. But it doesn't mean it represents the majority.
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>>91892934
In fairness the Legends NR did spend most of its existence fighting a constant war against the Empire and the various Imperial warlords, whereas the canon NR had decades of peace as the imperial remnant fucked off to the unknown regions.
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>>91892714
>how is TFA a better movie when its story meanders all the over the place, oftentimes forgetting who and what the characters are or are supposed to be doing
>AOTC has a fairly easy to follow and entertaining general plot

I don't think either movie is hard to follow, and I'd agree that TFA has pacing problems, but I don't think they're as apparent or distracting as ATOC.

>a political thriller entwined with a star-crossed romance, culminating in an epic battle

I think you're over reaching a bit there. The politics are okay at best, and the romance is hardly Romeo and Juliette. I'll agree about the epic battle, though I fucking hate the droid factory sequence.
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>one (ONE) lazy star wars movie that focuses on characters over world building and everyone says the series is doomed

we survived attack of the clones and return of the jedi
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>>91893012
> But it doesn't mean it represents the majority
So what exactly DOES represent the majority?
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>>91892790
>Thrawn hates Pryce
No he doesn't, if he hated her that much he wouldn't have kept her around. He merely has distaste for what she did a Batonn but he understands that they need each other.

She needs him to help her career (and maybe improve her skills in military command) and he needs her to help him with his poor politcal skills.
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>>91892916
Rey looks like a prequel-era Jedi. That makes me happy, that they're keeping the aesthetic Lucas settled on.

Looks a lot like AOTC Anakin even.

Wait... Is Rian/Lucasfilm going to have pottery between 2 and 8?!
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>>91893039
Optimism is like poison to today's generation. Why bother hoping for the best, when your expectations will never be met?
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>>91893039
Both of those two movies were good and contributed a lot to the franchise.

Also I don't think the series is doomed, but I do think TFA was awful, and the ST has an uphill battle of redemption.
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>>91893072
>Wait... Is Rian/Lucasfilm going to have pottery between 2 and 8?!

Kylo is reverse Vader so yes
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>>91892983
Why is it more believable for the entire Imperial Navy to be wiped out in a single battle and the Empire to instantly cede all its territory, than it is for the war to drag on as each side keeps trying to flip systems and also keep an economy and government running? Galaxy is a really, really big place.
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>>91893056
>So what exactly DOES represent the majority?

I don't know precisely. But I do know that a bunch of butthurt, 'muh-childhood', 'George doesn't get it', 40-something year old loudmouths don't.
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>>91893082
nope, cynicism breeds laziness and close minded thinking

saying "star wars has recovered from shitty movies before" is not even optimism, it's realism
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>>91893100
What did RotJ really contribute to the franchise outside of character work? Some new species and ships, but not a lot of new concepts really come to mind.
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>>91893109
>Why is it more believable for the entire Imperial Navy to be wiped out in a single battle
Because it wasn't a single battle, it was 1 year of battles that culminated with a huge battle at Jakku, in which the Empire threw everything in, thinking they could win, and that the future of the Empire counted on it. A more more believable and exciting end to the GCW.

Even the much more widescale Clone Wars lasted only 3 years. And yeah, that war ended prematurely, but its clear from ROTS that the Republic were close to winning.
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>>91893072
AOTC and TLJ are the second movies of their trilogies. Did you think TLJ would only copy shit right out of ESB?
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>>91893072
>>91892916

Still bugs me she doesn't have any sleeves.

Or a padawan braid. But then again, Ezra didn't either. So I guess I'll let that one pass.
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>>91893119
Ok, but what about all those other people who like TFA? I know RT is a shitty way to judge anything, but movies don't get 92% by being hated. That's not to say it's GOOD, mind you, but it was well liked.
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>>91893155
I agree, and it really is a shame. You'd think after Rogue One they'd be all over the 'hope' thing.
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>>91892867
>Those are completely legitimate complaints, even if you disagree with them.
No, they're legitimate complaints when you can actually quote dialogue or point out where the acting was bad. You can't just say "shit acting" and that's it, you have to discuss it. But these people can never explain or go into further detail, therefore, they're just using buzzwords to make it seem like they know what they're talking about but they actually don't.
>And Jar Jar complaints are real too; you can't just discredit it by calling it a meme.
Jar Jar was barely in Episode 2 or 3, you idiot so how can people use Jar Jar as an excuse for the entire trilogy in being bad?
>While I agree that more people need to know about the insane use of practical effects, there are times where the effects don't look great.
What's that got to do with what I said? I'm talking about the ignorant people who claim that everything was CGI.
>Barely anyone even knows about RLM when it comes to the wider audience.
Then try telling that to the hundreds or people that I've argued with that told me to watch RLM. Nearly everywhere you go, whether it's /tv/, YouTube, Reddit or Facebook, the majority talk about them.
>And TFA got a lot of positive reception and praise. It was extremely well received.
Not by the real fans, but by fucking normies who only got introduced into Star Wars through TFA. The film started to get hated once the BDs came out because that's when people rewatched it and realised that it was shit.
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>>91893025
but that's just it the new republic LOSES in the end, to the SITH of all fuckin people

>>91893026
I'm not talking about the politics itself per se, I'm talking about Obi-Wan investigating the assassination attempt on Padme, tracking it to the clone army, and then tracking Jango to Geonosis and discovering Dooku plotting with separatists ; meanwhile Anakin is assigned to defend Padme and they grow close through their trials and tribulations (they're also literally star crossed, being that this is a space opera, and that their love theme is titled Across the Stars)

it's not necessarily handled the best way, but it's perfectly logical movie progression that an audience can grasp and enjoy

TFA however can hardly decide who its protagonist is until Takodana when its revealed, yes, Rey is definitely the protagonist, forget about all these other losers
It also interrupts the entire plot of "finding Luke Skywalker" and puts it on hold for an hour and a half while the movie suddenly remembers it had to fit in a death star in order to properly rip off ANH
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>>91893189
Most people are, though. TLJ trailer received major hype.
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>>91893174
>that Ezra
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>>91893158
Everything you know and love about Darth Vader. Literally all of his character comes from ROTJ, and was basically the basis of the entire PT.

(and plenty more. First true examples of Jedi in action with Luke. More display of the Force. Jabba, and more worldbuilding)

>>91893166
Well after TFA being a blatant ANH rehash, there's a lot of uncomfortable anticipation of TLJ being an ESB rip-off.

But I do have some optimism.
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>>91893158
THE REDEMPTION OF ANAKIN SKYWALKER YOU DUMB FUCK
THE CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT OF THE ENTIRE SAGA
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>>91892962
>Looks like that "Time for the Jedi to end" thing really was meaningless "trailer shock" controversy.

Her dressing as a Jedi doesn't really have much bearing on the impact of the line.
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>>91893199
TLJ trailer has also been getting a lot of uncertainty regarding that Hoth "homage" shot.

With all the "TFA = ANH" complaints, the last thing we needed was to see something referencing ESB in the trailer for the next movie.

I am optimistic, but I can also understand why people are afraid of being burned again.
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>>91893237
>Well after TFA being a blatant ANH rehash, there's a lot of uncomfortable anticipation of TLJ being an ESB rip-off.

How about the writer and director joking about it being an ESB rehash

he and Disney obviously know the criticism TFA received.
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>>91893246
>It's time for the Jedi... To end.
>But first, we gotta get you out of that drab. Here is a sweet Jedi Padawan outfit!
>Don't mind the blaster marks on the back...
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>>91893269
literally the only valid complaint is Crait is white
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>>91891963
I can't believe in Kallu's turn because of what he did to Tau and that helpless Stormtrooper. He was HAPPY killing her! And now he does the same because he doesnt get a hug from Konstatine?
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>>91893346
its just a kids show turn ur brain off xD
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>>91893039
>we survived return of the jedi

Throw yourself in a sarlacc
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>>91892962
>Looks like that "Time for the Jedi to end" thing really was meaningless "trailer shock" controversy.
>Things that were obvious from day 1
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>>91893239
>>91893237
>outside of character work
Read the whole post, guys.
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>>91893274
>How about the writer and director joking about it being an ESB rehash
>he and Disney obviously know the criticism TFA received.
I know. Even if Lucasfilm held the "lets play it safe" sentiment for TFA, and let JJ do his thing, they will not be doing that again.

Even Kathleen Kennedy stood on stage at Celebration and praised Rogue One for taking risks.

Literally every representative has been talking about that for the past year. From Amy Hennig, to Pablo Hidalgo, to Dave Filoni, to Rian Johnson, they've all been promising NEW stuff, because they know just how much fans were uncomfortable with TFA being a soft reboot for normies.

I don't (for the most part) think TLJ will be a rehash. At least not comparable to TFA/ANH. (At worst, it will be like ANH/ROTJ/TPM. Borrowed elements for a new story)

>>91893337
>airspeeders on a white planet speed to topple a group of walkers
Don't tell me you cant see why people are rolling their eyes at it. (I do think the red dust imagery looks neat though. It's not as offensive as the TFA """trench run""")
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>>91893178
>Ok, but what about all those other people who like TFA?

Well, those are likely because of as I mentioned previously:

>By people who either aren't familiar to the franchise

which largely consists of plebs and children who are just discovering the franchise. They're responsible for any significant form of success TFA's accumulated.
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>>91893392
we did read it, and found it shit
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>>91892332
I'm on the same boat with you. I'm loving everything but once we get to Bloodlines, I stop. That's my cutoff. The ST is not only boring and unoriginal but renders everything in the OT/PT pointless. More so than Legends because at least Luke built his Order and they fixed the New Republic before things outside the Galaxy ruined it.

I take it back. The New Sith by Krayt ruined the point of the PT and Anakin's redemption.
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>TLJ trailer shows everything most similar to ESB (besides space battles)
>when BTS and leaks confirm a bunch of original and weird shit they didn't show

Do you think they did it on purpose?
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the empire was born on hope. (and dead Jedis )
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>>91883936
Inquisitor, remove this filth from the bridge
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>>91893466
In a misguided attempt to hype people on nostalgia, only to surprise people with the "time for the Jedi to end." twist to generate buzz?

Yes, absolutely.

Depending on the reception to the teaser, the main trailer will either focus on the familiar, or the new.
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>>91893068
>No he doesn't, if he hated her that much he wouldn't have kept her around
Confirmed for not reading the Thrawn book. He can't get rid of Pryce since she technically owns him. And Thrawn needs her skills to stand toe with the Moffs. Thrawn may be a Grand Admiral but it was Pryce who got him there with Tarkin favors
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>>91893159
>but its clear from ROTS that the Republic were close to winning
Though it was the CIS who were hitting the Republic capital, not the other way round. They may have had the advantage, but the CIS could probably have dragged it out a few more years at least.

>it was 1 year of battles
Interesting that the only thing that moved that quickly from barely registering as a threat to near total galactic consist in Legends was the Yuuzhan Vong invasion. Sure, they tried to justify it by saying "mass defections", but it's mad.
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>>91877332
MAJOR GENERAL "She's not your waifu, she's a cartoon" VEERS!
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>>91879649
>>91879712
They should have waited until Han confronted him to reveal his face imo
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>>91893026
Saying AOTC is poorly paced is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Unlike TPM, AOTC jumps right into the point of the story. We never go on side quests like TPM. AOTC is a remarkable improvement over TPM. I love TPM but the film is a mess of clutter. Shouldve been cut down or expanded.

>Zam hits Padme because of Separatist leaders wanting war
>Jedi hold meeting to protect senator
>Anakin is bodyguard and Obi-Wan investigates
>all in the span of 30 mins
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>>91893159
>but its clear from ROTS that the Republic were close to winning.
If anything, ROTS proved the Separatist were winning since they hit the capital and kidnapped the chancellor. Kalani comments the Republic had a very low chance of winning.
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Just want to say that I think its damn fucking awesome that Sheev was so welcoming of Thrawn, because of what was set up in Life Debt.

It's not even explicitly talked about in the Thrawn book, but we know from Life Debt that Sheev senses a strong dark side presence outside the Galaxy, which is why Sheev decides to trust Thrawn, because he knows Thrawn is his ticket to the secrets of the dark side.

This all feels very exciting, set-up to some kind of big reveal in a future book which sadly is probably just going to be the chronological reveal of Snoke, but we'll see.

I just really like the way this is all being constructed, and really rewarding to those of us who follow it all, even pushing through Wendgi's shit.
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>>91893728
The attack on Coruscant was a desperate move. Think of it like the German Spring offensive of 1918.
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>>91893842
>Snoke being the being in the Unknown Regions
>Not the Yuuzhan Vong

Underwhelming if that happens
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>>91878302
He's looking in the the viewports trying to catch a peek of a hot chick changing.
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>>91892916
Kylo looks like what Anakin would have in episode 3
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>>91893870
They wanted to end the stalemate not knowing the war was being carefully controlled. It was a desperate move but everyone wanted the war to be over. Obi-Wan comments about the Outer Rim sieges still fucking with the Republic.

Realistically, the Separatists should've won. Or Padme and other Senators would have gotten a ceasefire or peace treaty. I wonder how an alternative timeline would look with the Republic and Confederacy having peace would look like.
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>>91892962
Rey is a PTfag and Luke is an OTfag
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>>91893870
>The attack on Coruscant was a desperate move

I'm not trying to invalidate your argument on that the Republic was winning. I agree with that.

But I don't think the battle of Coruscant was an act of desperation. Especially since Sidious ordered it to enact his endgame. Mind you, the primary purpose of that battle was strictly meant as a test to see if Anakin was finally ripe for turning.
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>>91878302
He's cataloguing all in and out going ships from the headquarters. It's probably to verify if any ships were stolen or if anyone left without proper clearance.
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>>91893397
>People who aren't familiar to the franchise
How significant do you think the size is of people who aren't familiar with fucking Star Wars? You think that's really a majority of the audience?
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>>91884793
Fuck, just saw this. Underrated.
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Does anyone have the Plo Koon "FUCK" gif?
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>TFA was a parallel to the OT
>TLJ is going to be the split between the OT and PT
>Episode 9 will be parallel to the PT
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>>91894194
>Episode 9 will be parallel to the ST
ftfy
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>>91894194
Speak English please
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>>91894129
>How significant do you think the size is of people who aren't familiar with fucking Star Wars?
Can't say precisely. But if I had to guess, I'd say about 70/30.

>You think that's really a majority of the audience?
Ab-so-fucking-lutely.

You really need to accept that there are people never had an incentive to like it until they saw it proper. There are loads of people who know of the movies, of the franchise, but have never seen a even a second's worth of it. I've known guys in their 30s and 40s who've never seen the OT before.
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>>91894254
>TFA was a parallel to the OT
>TLJ is going to be the split between the OT and PT
>Episode 9 will be parallel to the PT
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>>91894461
>I've known guys in their 30s and 40s who've never seen the OT before.
>what is anecdotal evidence
Anon. When accounting for inflation, Star Wars falls at #s 2, 11, 13, 16, 18, 57, 64, and 93 on the top 100 grossing movies of all time.

How the fuck do you think 70% of the people who saw TFA are unfamiliar with the franchise? You think they just up and decided, "oh you know what? I'm gonna finally go see one of those Star War movies!"?
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V > IV > VI > RO > III > VII > II > I
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>>91894579
more or less good list
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>>91894579
>ESB at the top
shit taste baka desu senpai
rotj is the best
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>>91894579
>>91894588
>Literally playing it as safely as possible. Rewatch the movies and then rank them without influence from anyone or anything

Personally:
VI > V > III > RO > IV > VII > II >I
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>>91894579
rotj is the best
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>>91894579
Unironically:

VI>IV>RO>V>III>VII>I>II
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>>91894635
>>91894579
>TPM as worst
BOOOOOOOOO

It's the second worst
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I'm glad you cunts can get over your millennial nostalgia and realize AOTC sucks ass
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personal opinion (aka objective fact):
ROTJ > ANH = ESB > TPM > AOTC = ROTS = RO > TFA
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>>91894631
>>91894635
>>91894656
>>91894684
Why is /swco/ so against rating V as the best?
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>>91894555
>You think they just up and decided, "oh you know what? I'm gonna finally go see one of those Star War movies!"?

No. I think their very young kids who've never seen any of the movies dragged them to see it.

and probably other shit like going out with friends or a date to see a new flick at the movie house.
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>>91894745
boring movie carried by good Vader scenes
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>>91894745
ESB first is just another parroted meme. It's definitely top 3, but not #1 because of the horrendously boring middle act.
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>>91894714
I admit it's not a very good movie but I have to be honest, I loved it when it came out. I was 13 at the time so I was just starting my "I AM MORE MATURE" phase so AotC fit my teenaged sensibilities because to me, it was darker and edgier than TPM.
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>>91894745
It's the plebs' favorite and it has some pacing problems. Contrarians gonna contrary. New Hope is still my fave.
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>>91894579

no, this is best ranking
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>>91894745
I have nothing against Empire Strikes Back being someone's favorite movie or even being considered cinematically the best, but it's an incredibly normie vapid opinion to parrot simply to fit in. If you can justify it beyond "dude I'm your father lmao" or "le epic hoth battle" then we can accept your ranking as valid. Otherwise, you're just unoriginal white noise.
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>>91878263
Actually, a lot of people do, mainly because, without any knowledge of the other star wars movies, RO cannot stand on its own because it relies on many references and storytelling from the other movies.
So critics believe it's not a good movie on that point but the problem with that argument (and I know people are using mr. plinkett's videos as their base) is that RO was advertised as an in-between movie and is basically an anthology story with the large universe in mind .

It is better than TFA though.
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>>91894745
It's kinda overrated imo. Emperor's thrown room scene beats any scene in V i think
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What kinda dumbass brings dual handguns as a primary weapon into a tactical military situation instead of a proper rifle or an SMG?
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>>91894827
Swap 1 and 3 and that's not a bad list
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>>91894772
All three of the OT movies have great first and third acts but take a dip in the middle acts.
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>>91894831
100% this.
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>>91894935

I know this is a meme but I agree with it 100%.

Rex's whole design is retarded and very ugly actually
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>>91894916
>Emperor's thrown room
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>>91894935
What kinda dumbass brings a sword as a primary weapon into a tactical military situation instead of a proper rifle or an SMG?
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>>91894958
>ANH
>second act is the infiltration and escape from the death star
>weak

>ESB
>second act is the training of Luke and the romance of Han and Leia
>weak

>ROTJ
well the second act seems sort of weak at first glance beyond the speeder bike chase but watch this and be proven wrong, its pure kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJTsQEoIcvA
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>>91894967
I dig a single pauldron.
Half-skirt always seemed like a wierd option to me.
Custom paintjob is pretty cool.
Dual blasters are are retarded choice of weapon for a soldier.
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>>91895018
star wars movie romance always sucks
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>Luke spent his exile on an island planet that likely reminded him of the island his waifu died on
Fucking hell.
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>>91895062
Which waifu?
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Why people shit on Anakin's lines so much in the Episode 2? Especially the sand part?

By this point, he's barelly out of his teen years, he probably bever experienced such a strong attraction and has zero idea how to deal with his feelings or express them.

I think, his dialogue is perfectly consistent with the character.

Shit, I said dumber things to the girls I liked when I was his age.

I guess, the only sticking point for me is that it kinda worked on Padme.
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>>91895093
He's probably talking about Nakari Kelen from Heir to the Jedi, some qt black chick that was with him on a mission for a few days then got blown to pieces by a trandoshan grenade launcher. There wasn't enough between them for it to be a waifu, but it was going in that direction until she disintegrated.
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>>91895015
laser sword AND wizard powers
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>>91895125
>I guess, the only sticking point for me is that it kinda worked on Padme.

That's my issue with it. In real life, if a guy creeped on a girl like Anakin does to Padme she would probably spray him with mace, not fall for him.
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>>91895150
>>91895125
She probably was attracted to him as well by this point. Young girls in love can be as stupid as young boys.
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>>91894827
>>91894949
This
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>>91895212
>Young girls in love can be as stupid as young boys.

She was like 23 and he was 19 though.
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X for X WINGS
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>>91895125
>Especially the sand part?
Never understood it, never will.
I actually always thought it was a great line because he spent half his life on entirely desert planet.
It shows that he's a different man now, and kinda wants to forget about that past, especially with his internal struggle about helping his mother.
>the only sticking point for me is that it kinda worked on Padme.
This is probably the main issue. He was creepy af and she still fell in love with him.
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>>91895254
What do you think of the fan theory that Anakin used the dark side to manipulate Padme's feelings to make her fall for him?
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>>91895254
btw I just realized it sounded like I'm trolling or something, but I'm not. Before getting into SW fandom on the internet that's how I always felt about that line.
>>91895270
It makes sense, especially if he did it unintentionally (because he's that strong and can't control his powers).
But it's just a fan interpretation and doesn't make the romance itself better, since there were no flimmaking thchinques used to hint at that.
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>>91895270
I don't like it. I prefer thinking of Anakin as a child murdered and a war criminal, then a rapist.
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The Rumor Come Out: Does Poe Dameron is Gay?
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>>91895396
Poe Dameron is gay is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 34 ABY, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his gay. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially his fans are shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his flying, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this pilot revealed himself as homosexual. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his fans.
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>>91895527

>I shouldn't like some movies and dislike others, instead I should mindlessly enjoy the content and have absolutely no critical thought of my own - to the point I disparage others for having critical thoughts and opinions.
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>>91895599
...Google Translate?
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>>91895396
>>91895599

Read these with an eastern european accent
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Did the name Anakin exist in real life before Star Wars?
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>>91895599
Kek'd heartily
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>>91895687
Does it exists in real life now?
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>>91895687
>" It was long thought that he named the character for British director Ken Annakin, but Lucas himself denied this when Annakin died in 2009. The English language has no traditional equivalent of the name, though it does resemble the Nordic girls’ name Anniken."
>>91895718
>" “Anakin” made its chart debut at #957, the name having been bestowed on exactly 218 baby boys in 2014. "
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>>91895687
Annakin is a very obscure Northern English surname.
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>Chirrut and Kanan will never be blind buddie
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>>91892918
Reminder
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>>91895527

>spending on movie popcorn
This is objectively worse than anyone's ranking of the movies.
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>>91894838
This is an odd notion, because R1 is actually pretty self-sufficient. The only bits which aren't explained in the movie are who the hell this random Princess is.
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>>91896107
MAUL
STOP
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>Ahsoka Tano
>accused of force choking someone in a cell
>guard not present at the door the whole time to witness the interrogation and ensure that the Jedi didn't act out of accordance with the law
>neither her nor the accused bomber had legal counsel present at any time
>>implying a senator who is so emotionally entangled that she cannot put on a proper legal defense (and probably doesn't have any sort of legal credentials) counts as counsel
>the Republic wants to try and execute a war hero for killing a terrorist

Ahsoka should have gotten another Bronze Star, just without the Valor Device attached.
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>>91896171
You're starting to see how Sheev rose to dominance.
He's the only person approaching anything close to above average intelligence in the entire Galaxy.
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>>91894838
Its not just a better film than TFA, its a better Star Wars film, even on minor stuff like the prop design, RO blows TFA out of the water.
That and I'd argue RO is pretty standalone, the only thing is the ending is a bit weird when this Princess shows up out of nowhere
TFA, on the other hand, expects you to know that Luke Skywalker is some kind of legend, that Leia used to be a Princess and that Han used to be a big shot years ago
And then there's Kylo's granddad issues as well
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>>91894579
VI > V > RO > VII > III > IV > II > I

TPM is probably the only SW movie I outright dislike. ANH and AotC, they are alright, but I don't really get anything out of those movies anymore.

Everything up from RotS, I can rewatch any time and still have fun. RotS and TFA are about equal, but I have to give the upper hand to TFA for being more compact, whereas RotS loses steam after the battle of Coruscant, with the script forced attempts at establishing Anakin's motivations. And I really like Kylo and Rey, they almost managed to redeem how empty the rest of the movie is. Rogue One could be on the second spot, if it wasn't for the messy character arcs and flat dialogue. RotJ has serious problems (Han and Leia are completely redundant, the extended opening with Jabba is cool on its own, but it's really just an epilogue to TESB that stalls the actual plot of the third movie, shitty resolutions to lead-ins from TESB), but everything with Luke, Vader and Sheev, whether together or on their own, is an unquestionable high point of the whole franchise and the battle of Endor is a delight.
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>>91896206
I'm starting to think that the greatest ability the Dark Side can grant is not, in fact, Force Lightning, but the ability to Gorilla Glue the idiot ball into the hands of every person who might stand against you without them even realizing how many points drop off their IQ when they start interfering with your schemes
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>>91896206

I'm just amazed a galaxy that has mastered the Second Amendment (basically anybody can have a gun, even if they're actually a criminal or terrorist), can't figure out the other nine.

>>91896307

Admittedly, despite the fact that the Dark Side is all rage and bullshit, it has the ability to cloud precognition even when it's only one guy doing it to dozens or hundreds. That's probably worse than having to be an idiot to lose to an old man who somehow keeps a lightsaber up his sleeve despite working in a facility that should have metal detectors that you have to walk through to get in or out of any access point point.
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Palpatine still being alive in canon. Yes or no?

Whether it be clones, saving himself, or whatever, would you want him to return as a villain post-rotj?
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>>91896466

Nah.

After a certain point it's literally not giving other people opportunities to be cool.
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>>91896466
no. It would be a huge cop-out for them to bring him back. Not to mention that one of the main criticisms that TFA had was that it was too derivative of the ANH; if Palpatine came back as an antagonist, that criticism would have even greater justification. They can't create a good new antagonist, so they're just reviving old, dead ones?
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>>91896466
You already retconned the Jedi returning, Empire being destroyed, and dark-siders perverting on the force, and now you want Sheev alive too?

JJ please, there's only so much we can take! ROTJ is already worthless, no more, NO MORE!!!
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>>91896466
What if there was a clone of Sheev running around, but the clone is its own person, their own mind and so forth, just happen to have the same genetic makeup of the late Emperor?
What if he wanted nothing to do with the Sith and just wanted to be a freighter jockey going planet to planet delivering goods to provide for his family?
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>>91896129
It's not really about the plot being standalone. It's about how the references and the worldbuilding is constructed and presented. RO digs deeper and posits new questions about pre-existing SW entities, like the Rebel Alliance. The movie is all about their internal politics, the morality of armed insurgents, the lenghts and ways one can go in fighting an oppresive regime and what can or cannot be justified.

I don't want to make this sound like RO is 2deep4u, because it isn't. But it presumes a certain level of existing investment in the fictional universe from the viewer, that you want to learn more about these things, instead of just passively sitting in the theatre, chewing on popcorn and waiting for the quipbot to make another snarky comment.

And then the references. What does TFA reference? Things everyone, even people who hasn't seen SW in 20 years, know. The dejarik table. The trash compactor. Han Solo smuggling stuff and getting into trouble. What does RO reference? Vader's castle pulled from the EU and just placed on a PT planet. A scene from a book that came out couple of months prior to the movie. A droid from a cartoon show. TFA draws from the OT and works as its own story. People who last saw RotJ in 83 could go see it and feel right at home. RO directly connects to multitude of canon media and a large part of its fun factor is unraveling those connections and seeing how RO fits in the bigger picture.

That's why TFA is more popular among the normies and RO among the fans. TFA is a well crafted (yeah, it is) action entertainment. People get their cheap thrills, laugh at references they know and go home. RO is much drier and by definition less accessible to that audience.
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>>91896391
As a counterpoint, we see in The Clone Wars that Palpatine wears that same outfit when he travels to Mandalore to personally kick the shit out of Maul and Savage, so I think that get up is his "I'm about to throw down" outfit
Plus he is the Chancellor of the Republic, if there's anyone who can wave themselves past security its him
>>91896466
No, I wouldn't want him to return
Palpatine is unique, not just among Sith but among a lot well done villains in that he ultimately won. He achieved galactic domination and the near complete eradication of the Jedi, and got to enjoy the fruits of his labour for nearly twenty years
Bringing him back would just undermine that success for no real gain. Hell I don't want the Sith to make a come back purely because any Sith after Palpatine will invariably be less effective
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