Marvel wants comic shop employees to dress up as HYDRA

>>91727059
>Why would you want your employees to dress up as them like it's cool when they are suppose to be racists/facists?
So we can punch them like Kirby intended.

>>91727059
More importantly, why would comic shop owners bother helping out Marvel's at this point, when they know shit ain't gonna sell?
Maybe they're sending the uniforms anyway and charging for the shipping?

HYDRA isn't Nazis. And I can dress like Spider Man for a party but I'm not going to climb walls, at least sober

>>91727059
Look I know that in the comics Hydra wasn't primarily Nazi, but you'd think that after last year they would've thought twice about doing this kind of promotion.

>>91727157

This. Them dressing up like hydra could be cool. But marvel comics don't sell after they drove away their fanbase.

Most comic shop owners are probably trying to sell DC rebirth because people actually want to read it.

>>91727059
That's not exactly new, companies like Marvel and DC often offer t-shirts for store employees to wear that promote books or other things. Typically they are free or at a small cost, opt-in sort of deals.

>>91727059
>You are suppose to side against them
You are? Because so far, within the context of the Marvel Universe, Steve has done literally nothing wrong.

>>91727059
People dress up as Stormtroopers to sell Star Wars.

>>91727264
>after last year

What happened last year?

>>91727059
>Having comic shop people dress up as literal Nazis?

Is there a way to ban people who don't read comics from this board


aka banning /tv/?

>>91727684

a white supremacist (male) organization, mind you

>>91727766
You know goddamn well they're not sending comic shop owners green jumpsuits with yellow harnesses, and that it's going to look like a nazi uniform for dat movie synergy.

>>91727766

Do you feel in charge?

>>91727812
You know damn well it's going to be a t-shirt with yellow stripes on it because Marvel's too cheap to give out full suits.

Fuck off /tv/.

>>91727684
Star Wars actually sells though

>>91727831
When Hiro grows balls and finally changes the rules I will.

>>91727059
Based Marvel redpilling people.

>>91727915

Lotta loyalty for an anonymous /co/mrade.

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>>91727234
>>91727766
>HYDRA isn't Nazis.
>le hickman illuminati millenial organization formed by isaac newton

HYDRA are nazis. One of their longest leader, Strucker was a nazi officer. Red Skull ruled over them. Arnim Zola worked and works for them. Who the fuck do you think they were recruiting during their administrations?
Hydra are not nazis is literally synrgy bullshit the movies pulled so that they could put out merchandise of them.

Can kind of confirm this.

At my shop we have #HailHydra stuff every where and the owner of my shop is going to dress up as Hydra Cap for Free Comic Book Day.

>>91727059
Everyone is so up in arms about this, no one cared when a pair pair of children dress up as Joker and Harley Quinn.

>>91727670
He murdered Jack Flag.

>>91727059
I'm curious why Marvel thinks they have this kind of clout. When DC was selling poorly they changed their books to sell better for store owners, but now that Marvel is doing poorly they do things like blame it on DC and demand that stores redecorate for them and wear costumes for them.

It really does scream of a kind of severe entitlement on Marvel's part, like they think comic stores exist only for them.

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>>91728033
Joker and Harley aren't nazis.

>>91727670
He plans to ban Internet porn

>>91727234
They worked with Nazis. And they are racist bigots.

They are not people who should be promoted as "hip" and "cool"

>>91727915
Didn't Hiro delete /qa/ just so he wouldn't have to talk to users anymore?

>>91728105

What's wrong with that?

>>91727991
>Hydra are not nazis is literally synrgy bullshit the movies pulled so that they could put out merchandise of them.

No you dumbass. The movies were the ones that made Hydra Nazis. Hydra is a completely separate entity who only allied with them to take over the world. They're fucking SPECTRE.

>>91728172
/pol/, pls leave

>>91727752
The whole shitstorm last year over Cap being Hydra from people who don't read comics. I mean who is this promotion for? It's not gonna get a lot of new readers, and the ones that know about what's going on are either already following it or aren't interested in Spencer's story.

>>91728092
I'd honestly say their ideals are far worse than Nazi ideals though. Also, I like how he pulls the whole All American card here, but he was an abassador for the middle east back when he had Jason killed. Didn't he have a plan to blow up the UN or something? It's been ages since I read Death in the Family.

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>>91727670
>>91728172
Does this look "cool" or "right" to you GamerGaters?

>>91728194

At least I'm gonna be hip and cool, while 10/10 qts (6/10 on the Ukraine) will be laughing at you progressive dinosaurs.

>>91727446
JonTron please

>>91728237
>to you GamerGaters
What did he mean by this?

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>>91727059
>it's another "/pol/-tard pretends to care about comic books as a way to project his worldview onto everyone and everything around him through strawmen, and then saying it was all only 'satire' when people call him out on it" thread

>>91727059
God damn I fucking want this secret empire shilling to stop.

>>91728237

sure beats Interspecies Breeding Grounds

>>91728218
You would be surprised at how many people read comics who have no idea what's going on in upcoming stories. They don't bother with rumor sites, maybe they check out Marvel and DC's facebook and twitter accounts but that's about it.

So an employee wearing a Hydra Empire shirt is going to make at least a few people curious as to what it's about. Especially since it will probably say something like "ASK ME ABOUT HYDRA EMPIRE" on it.

>>91728309
Why would /pol/ be against someone dressing up as a """""""""""""""""""""nazi"""""""""""""""""""""

>>91728237
Yes.

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>>91728319
>not wanting to breed with Xenos

what are you a faggot?

>>91728237
>Killing off the Inhuman menace

>Securing the border.

Completely depends on which alien species is in concentration camps honestly. Invade Earth and get fucked back.

>>91728372
They're not, OP is a /pol/-tard pretending to be an SJW who is offended by something that nobody else (not even other SJWs) care about.

>>91728237
So Steve contacted The Squids from Wormwood, Gentleman Corpse?

>>91728237
Earth belongs to humans. Not a bunch of mutant terrorists, inhuman invaders, and alien """"""refugees.""""" We barely have enough resources to take care of our own and they expect us to take care of THEM? If they have the technology to fly to Earth then they have the technology to GO BACK.

Also those Helicarriers look dope as fuck.

>>91727059
>Marvel wants comic shop employees to dress up as HYDRA
And if they refuse, what happens?

>>91728105
>They worked with Nazis.
So did the Italians and Japanese.

>And they are racist bigots.
No, they aren't. HYDRA are equal opportunity terrorists.

>>91728421
/aco/ leave

>>91728502
Then they won't get sent the free HYDRA T-shirts.

>>91728435
Anon, I don't know how to break this to you, but Tumblr lost their shit when Cap said Hail Hydra and started to complain that they "made a Jewish made character a Nazi". They also threw a fit that Bucky was killed off.

>>91728541
OH NOES

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>>91727059
>leftists assault random comic nerds because they cant differentiate between fantasy and reality

what else is new?

>>91728502

Lets just say Marvel's got plenty of hostages.

>>91728345
Yeah but you got only two groups: The ones who know Hydra isn't primarily Nazis and the ones whose only frame of reference is MCU.

Anybody reading comics probably would've known about this since last year (since it was big news outside of rumor sites) and would be following Captain America. I'm not really convinced by the sales. Secret Empire might get a lot of orders but it's an event comic, and #0's orders will probably be skewed because it was included in the recent Funko Collector Corps box.

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>>91728421

The only punishment for you is death.

>>91728447
>>91728430
>>91728378
ow, the edge

Hydra are faggots. COBRA ftw.

>>91728619
They should hire Pat Mills for the W40k comics.

>>91728634

Show me where your feelings are hurt.

>>91728579
>Plenty
Spider-Man? Because I lost count of the hostages they already killed.
Well, or turned gay.

>>91728345
can confirm. I used to be said reader.

>>91728634
>Aliens invade earth constantly.

>Always get let go.

>Always come back and destroy more shit.

Fuck the aliens, man. We have to show them that if they try to pull shit shit anymore they're gonna get fucked. How many people need to die before we do something about it?

>>91727059
lmao Marvel just can't stop losing.

>>91727059
>people who like Hydra Cap and Secret Empire are literally racists who like the confederate flag and pepe
I always knew this

>>91728549
Tumblr's opinions don't matter and they only become a problem once you take them seriously.

>>91728569
>shit you just made up

>>91727991
>Red Skull ruled over them
Red Skull created an entirely new group using the name Hydra in Spencer's Cap run.

>>91728189
>t-they only affiliated with them to take over the world
You mean the Nazis only associated with Hydra to do that right? Red Skull was Hitler's closest advisor and top man, a straight up nazi. Maybe actually read Simon/Kirby Cap book instead of something from after 1986?

>>91728237
Looks cool to me.

>>91728768
But Red Skull wasn't Hydra until recently you dense retard.

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The ideology was a little off but damn did they have good uniforms

>>91728634
How many times have the Kree, Skrulls, Shi'ar, Baddoon, and whatever other flight capable alien races tried to take over Earth? And suddenly we're supposed to take them in and provide for them because they were too incompetent to keep their home planets from getting eaten by Galactus or blown up in cosmic wars that they themselves instigated?

>>91728843
Fascism and Nazism have always been too homoerotic to be taken seriously.

>>91728850
>Cletus reads a comic

>>91728226

What kind of faggot are you? You think kids don't like the Joker? You think parents would rather their child dress up as a Nazi before a purple clown? Kys

>>91728768
>Maybe actually read Simon/Kirby Cap book
You mean the ones where Hydra doesn't make a single appearance? Or are you confusing the Simon/Kirby Cap books with the Lee/Kirby Cap books wherein Hydra... has no affiliation with nazis whatsoever.

Here's some advice: watching a movie isn't the same as reading the comics no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

>>91728897
>Wants to get anal probed.

You should've just said you were gay.

>>91728953
>says the Nazi sympathizer
Enjoying the black leather uniform of the SS, hon?

>>91728995
>Hydra are Nazis.

And again. Tumblr proves they don't read comics. Go write a blog post about how you wanna lick Chris Evans toes.

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>>91728237
>that panel where it's literally 1940s concentration camps
I'm sorry.. Holocaust imagery has been so over-used that I can't even take it seriously anymore.

>>91729052
>lick Chris Evans toes
Nice fetish, Cletus. Do you Aryans practise it very often?

>>91729079
>Holocaust denier
>in an FBI-watched website
You fool.

>>91729085
>I know you are but what am I

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism

>>91727105

FPBP.

>>91729131
You like them autistic too, huh? Good, Nazi-Fascism is full of that kind of people.

>>91729131
Like autism is even real.

>>91728821
If by recently you mean like 50 years, sure.
Hydra is the group that brought Red Skull back into comics in the 60s and the one that resurrected him in the 80s. They also set up the USAgent story with Red Skull. Clearly if they deify/give a position of power to a Nazi, and were founded by a Nazi, they are a fucking nazi organization.

>>91728942
Nah, I said that because it illustrates that Red Skull is a nazi (though I guess everyone knows that), so when he shows up as a hydra leader it makes it unequivocally clear they're a nazi organization.

See the part that pisses me off most about you faggots trying to deny this is that you're using it as an excuse to say "N-no marvel didn't make Cap a nazi!" when Kirby and Simon literally made Cap heil Hitler via brainwashing. It's another reason why I tell people to read those comics. They didn't give a fuck about any of the bullshit you're trying to step over with your selective memory.

>>91729156
>Nazis are Hydra.

Please read a comic and go to the appropriate board for the MCU >>>/tv/

>>91728929
fuck off

>>91728821
>Red Skull wasnt Hydra until recently

is this bait?

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>>91728421

>>91728435
Who knows what's serious anymore.

>>91728736
I don't consider clickbait specialists to be human, but it was making the rounds on news sites.

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>>91729105
>You'll never be employed by the FBI or CIA to browse 4chan all day
>You'll never have to explain to a boardroom of old men that a new meme doesn't mean the citizens of Bolivia are growing increasingly dissatisfied with their government are are mounting a revolution to overthrow it

>>91728447
Mutants are born on Earth though. Generally to human parents.

>>91729197
>when Kirby and Simon literally made Cap heil Hitler via brainwashing.

Simon didn't do that.

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>>91727446
Like how is it even cool to be a goddamned Commie, but the second I mention fascism I'm kicked out of my morality class.

>>91729207
No it's a retard who basically is trying to be a smug cunt who says "Oooh you poor casual rubes, ackshully Captain America is not a nazi because the Organization Hydra which is founded by nazis and run by them is actually something very different". Just mongposting

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>>91728505
>>91728746
>>91728189
>>91728821

>Red Skull/Hydra arent nazis

>>91729229
You're right, round shield. It was Lee and Kirby. Still, two jews, not giving a fuck about any of this nonsense.

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>>91728237
It's beautiful!

>>91729253
Serves you right, edgy kid.

>>91728843
We're some kind of Protection Squad?

>>91729310
Cap had the round shield since literally the second issue.

Jesus what's with everyone being instantly hyper offended and have an immediate response or entitled bitching?

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>enter store
>see this
What does

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>>91729428

>>91727446
this. so much this.

>>91727059
>Marvel finally realized that comic shops are basically Diamond's franchise stores

>>91729428
Give the clerk a look then proceed to buy my comics

>>91729428
Think "Man, does the MCU suck."

>>91728092
That's correct. They're worse.

>>91729639
>still butthurt at them surviving WW2

>>91729297
>believing the Red Skull's lies
Sad!

>>91728237
>tentacle hellicarriers
Gets me every time

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>>91729706
>tentacle hellicarriers
Sounds familiar.

>>91727059
To be fair, it does seem kinda weird that Nick Spencer wants Hydra and Steve Rogers to be a serious and horrific racist enemy like >>91728237 and Marvel wants store owners to dress up like them.

Kinda mixed signals here. It's like no one thought this through.

>>91727059
How is this any different than dressing as darth vader or a stormtrooper?

Now, if its like >>91727157 says, then fuck them.

>>91727059
Tone-deaf on Marvel's part, overreaction from everyone else

Ohhh shit.

>As someone who works in a comic store, Marvel can fuck off with this nonsense. My grandfather was an Allied soldier captured by the Nazis. — Mary (@sapphicgeek) April 20, 2017

>We've also been asked to change our store logos to Hydra symbols. My staff are LGBTQ, Jewish, or both. We are no longer hand-selling Marvel. — Glamour Toad (@NickiColey) April 20, 2017

>if you dress up like a Sith you want to blow up innocent planets
>Sith are EVIL!!!!!!!

>>91729734
They have been actively trying to distance Hydra from the Nazis, to be fair

>>91729792
Bravo Marvel.

I think it's asking a lot of the stores to go this far however I think it's dumb people freak out this much.

Dressing up as the villain organization of a comic doesn't mean anything beyond you're dressed up like a villain from a comic book.

It feels to me like the uproar is from people who had to have hydra explained to them.
>marvel wants us to dress like hydra
>what's a hydra? Is that Pokémon?
>no, they're like nazis
>what the fuck? fuck nazis!

>>91729428
Get a picture.

Did DIDIO send people undercover to Marvel to sabotage them
Holy fucking shit man Marvel is shitting it's pants daily

>>91729828
The funniest thing about all of this to me is that for both of the Captain America movies, they sold merch with the Hydra logo and Hydra merch. A friend of mine got a HYDRA hat that he wore for years. He's a pretty liberal guy and no one ever really thought anything of it. No one ever equated it to nazis or acted like it was wearing the nazi symbol. It was just a logo for a comic book/movie villain group. HYDRA agent and Madame Hydra cosplay are at every con. I feel like even when the First Avenger was fresh, people weren't going on about HYDRA being nazis. This whole HYDRA = Nazis overreaction kinda came out of nowhere with last year's Captain America: Steve Rogers #1 shit.

Now people are acting like the hydra logo = the swastika and that this story is somehow pro-nazis?

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>>91729792
God it's like watching a car crash in slow motion

Say it loud, say it proud!!!
HAIL HYDRA!!!!!

>>91729792
Honestly, you'd think Marvel would at least try to explain that Hydra =/= Nazis. But instead, they're going with Brevroot's dumbass policy that angry fans buy comics.

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>>91729428
Ask her why a nazi inspired criminal organization uses the colors of the brazilian flag on its uniforms

>>91729831
They've been trying. But Spencer has been tying them to alt-right/Nazi personalities and trying to make them more racist then before. You can't decide to make them the worst republican racists on the planet for your Trump/Republican metaphor and then tell your liberal fans to dress up like them.

>>91730117
>order and progress

>>91730148
No, Spencer has deliberately been saying Red Skull and the alt right rhetoric assigned to him isn't TRUE Hydra, and that allying with the Nazis subsumed the True and Real Hydra

Red Skull's also fucking dead

>>91730104
Spencer wants them to be more and more like Nazis because they are suppose to be a metaphor for Trump/the Right. He wants them to be as bad as Hitler so he can pat himself on the back. If Spencer had toned back the racism and focused more on the facism aspect, there wouldn't be any controversy.

>>91730148
>>91730209
please try reading comics instead of spouting off about some single pages of Red Skull giving a Trump speech you saw posted on /pol/

>>91730117
>nazi inspired

>>91729253
>why is it cool to want workers to have rights but not kill all the Jews


hmmmmmmmmm

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HOLY FUCK ANON, NAZIS! LETS GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE MAN, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH MARlel THIS SHIT IS SO WRONG OH GOD

>>91727446

You have to be 18 to post on here, kid.

>>91730196
Oh yeah, because there is totes no racism in Steve's utopia OOPS >>91728237

>B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but those just Mutants
Mutants are the minorities of the Marvel universe. And he's literally Black.

Spencer is a liar and a bad one at that. Like when he made an Evil Fox News in his comic and when they called them out on it he tried to backtrack and say "It's n-n-n-not Fox News! I can't help if that's what you see, racists!".

Spencer wants Hydra to be an army of evil white supremacists that hate minorities and everything liberal. Because he's as subtle as a brick to the face. Only now Tumblr and the SJWs don't like Cap as a Hydra and people dressing up as Hydra after Spencer has made them into modern Nazis.

>>91730296
That kind of talk definitely deserves gulag time.

>>91730270
I've been only half assing this run, but I don't see what you're talking about. At the very least I don't see ANY of the distancing hydra from nazis that we get now and than.

>>91730408
Still, Spenser does have a strong troll sense. I wonder what percentage of all this is him trolling.

>>91727059
>>91729792
this is fucking hilarious

>>91729428
>Hey Bob

>>91730042
>a car crash in slow motion
Marvel is a dummy, indeed.

>>91730365
>The third guy
Oh no, Puck joined Hydra!

>>91730032
>I feel like even when the First Avenger was fresh, people weren't going on about HYDRA being nazis.
We were literally bitching him about how Marvel didn't have the balls to depict ratzis because it's forbidden in Germany, despite them being shown in Indiana Jones and the like.

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>>91730542
Can Spencer and Marvel ever catch a break?

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>>91730408
>>91730480
>I don't know what I'm talking about
>but I'm going to talk out of my ass about it anyway

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>>91730591
then Steve beats Red Skull to a pulp then hucks him out a window onto the rocks below where his brains splatter all over

>>91730578
*.We were literally bitching here

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>>91730611
then we have the Queen of Hydra herself saying ALLYING THE REICH WAS A BAD IDEA

>>91729792
I honestly don't know how Marvel could expect any different. The social climate is too tense and Americans too high-strung to tolerate irony in any form.

>>91729828
Liberals cannot tell fiction from reality. News at '11.

>>91730158
>for whites only

>>91730611
And then he starts putting Mutants and Inhumans (especially the black ones) in camps.

>>91727059
So what, Star War fans sometimes dress up as members of The Empire & they are literal Space Nazi's.

>>91730365
>yellow boots
Who had the idea?

>>91730585
He deserves it really.

>>91730671
you're basing that off a textless preview with zero context. We don't know what the situation there is, but just because Hydra aren't Nazis doesn't make them the good guys

>>91730634
And then he wanted Hill's wall to keep """enemies""" out and didn't care about the space Muslims I mean Kree

>>91729828
>>91730640
>blow up innocent planets
That's harder to do than killing people of a different race/religion/etc., you know.

>>91729428
*punch*

>>91730668
>for foreigners, at best

I haven't kept up with the timeline/cosmic cube fuckery. If Hydra's not supposed to be nazi, as anon claims, then what the fuck does it stand for?

>>91730693
Why does he deserve it? The twitter rants where it sounds like he is going to have a breakdown? Those are too great to possibly lose. The best one was the DC rebirth one and people gave him shit. He then told everyone to get a life.

>>91730702
It's pretty much confirmed that Hydra is going full Nazi and wants to gas the Mutants and inhumans and that it's suppose to be a metaphor for Trump (you know, that guy Spencer talks about on twitter)

But go on, /pol/. Keep defending them. When Steve calls Miles "boy" during their fight, I'm sure you'll have an excuse.

*Mic Drop*

>Hydra
>logo is an octopus

Why am I not surprised the alt reich doesn't know animal anatomy

>>91730671
>Especially black ones.


>Only one black kid.

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>>91727059
Makes perfect sense. Marvel wants to kill off their old white male customer base and become "hip" to bring in all the POCs/LGBQTs they can.

The best way is to fuck with their comic book store customers. They're gonna do a massive digital push soon, and its all her fault (pic related).

>>91730634
>M-Muh retcons

>>91730785
Hydras aren't real anon. I don't even think it can be considered an animal.

>>91730801
can you at least find more than one image, just for variety's sake

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>>91730821
Get a load of this guy.

>>91730717
You know, that's the exact same way of thinking that had cartoons replace firearms with laser guns.

Holy shit, liberals really have become like the biblethumpers and soccer moms from the 90s.

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>>91727059
>AoS, which reaches at least more 25x more actual viewers than Secret Empire copies that will be sold to retailers, currently in the middle of a "Hydra are totally Nazi's guys!" storyline.
>Spencer and Marvel shills desperately trying to tell people they're not Nazis at all totally for reals.
Marvel can't even coordinate shit within their own company. This isn't like it's Fiege and the Disney movies, who don't even talk to them anymore. They're literally doing everything they can to alienate their target customers on the comic side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W822l77TI

>>91727059
Just keep digging that hole deeper.

>>91728435
Jesus Christ, do you have any idea how crazy you sound?

>>91730870
90s soccer moms were non partisan though, they were both pearl clutching bitch conservatives and turbo bitch liberal harpies who banded together under the THINK OF THE CHILDREN banner

>>91730906
>Falseflagging has never ever happened on my 4chan

>>91730909
>>>>/pol/

>>91730870
>help! I'm being oppressed!

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>>91730925
/pol/ and 4chan are synonymous in the current year.

Get with the times, it's the current year and you don't want to be on the wrong side of history.

>>91730961
>supporting a bunch of pussies who got fucking rekt after boasting that their rule would last 1000 years
Lol

>>91730931
The Stupidity Aura of liberals is indeed oppressingly (ob)noxious.

>>91730977
You tell 'em, Cletus!

>>91731001

I'm not your guy, friend.

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>>91730974
Why are so mean to such a sensitive man.

>>91730974
Well, it's the 21st century and nazism is more alive than ever, so yeah, I guess Hitler did something right.

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>>91730961

I can't tell if you're a false-flagger or a bootyblasted /nsg/ user, but anyway have a polite sage and a reminder that ernst rohm was right about everything

>>91731001
>implying I'm white.
Aaaaand there we go. Like clockwork.

>>91731001
>Tumblr is so unoriginal this counts as an insult.

I mean, if anything you're calling anon Carnage, which is pretty badass.

>>91730504
I get it

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>>91730961
Until it's inshrined in to the rules, that don't mean shit. You can't make anyone do anything.

>>91731015
>than ever
>more alive than when it conquered most of Europe

>>91731011
>>91731057
But you're gay, like so many fascists.

>>91731053
Hi Uncle Ruckus.

>>91730909

Fuck off Gaydolf Shitler

>>91731015
I'm sure it looks that way when you call everyone you don't like a Nazi.

>>91731080
Nunca he visto Los Boondocks. Lo siento, Familienmitglied.

>>91731080

>current year
>not being a gay fascist

what are you, a fag or something?

>>91731080
That's pretty homophobic of you, fucking Nazi.

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>>91731123
Someone is a no fun negative Nancy.

>>91728237
>Texans being subdues and not going out shooting
And like that they've lost me

>>91731135
>Latino likes Drumpf cock
News at 11.

>>91728237
>Everyone I don't like is GamerGate.

>>91731015
>More alive than when it ruled a huge percentage of Europe
Modern Nazis have about the same IQ as Hitler currently does.

>>91727059
Can people on the internet go one day without being stupidly offended? It's fucking fictional shit. And fucking cosplay. Big whoop.

>>91728372
Cultural appropriation

>>91731564
Go away, /pol/

>>91727059
>Right wings hate it because of Spencer's Red Skull stawman and Sam Wilson political commentary
>Left wings hate it because to them Hydra=Nazi

HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS HARD
NO, SERIOUSLY.
DID MARVEL ACTUALLY THINK THIS WOULD IMPROVE RECEPTION?
I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT HYDRA CAP (this shit happens all the time) I'M JUST DUMBFOUNDED BY HOW THIS COMPANY KEEPS DIGGING A BIGGER HOLE.
THE COMPANY HAS BEEN ALIENATING LONGTIME READERS DUE TO SHITTY EVENTS AND HAM FISTED POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND THEY'VE BEEN KEEPING OUT NEW READERS BECAUSE OF THIS SHIT
FUCKING HELL, I JUST WANTED TO ENJOY COMICS

comics are gay

>>91727059
>Supervillain changes time to brainwash Superhero as a child
How is this something to be triggered about?

>>91730761
Its like how bernie sanders isnt a communist despite believing in all the same things

>>91731880
Socialist anon.

>>91731906
Yeah and socilism and communism are the same thing but different. Like nazis and hydra

>>91731857
Make me, Jontron.

>>91731880
Are /pol/tards really this dumb?

>>91727446
Trying too hard to be edgy, m8

People dress up as villains at cons all the time, but to hell with shilling a Marlel event.

why do /pol/ bring up communism and socialism when people point out nazis? nazism is racism and socialism/communism is a system of government regarding the distribution of wealth.

>>91732189
Because they are opposites. You cant be a communist and a nazi

>>91731080

>how dare you disagree with me you fucking brownie, don't you know your kind owes everything to us, you damn uncle tom?

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>>91732260
>Because they are opposites. You cant be a communist and a nazi

>>91732260
only idealist communism is the opposite of Nazism

actually practiced communism is pretty much Nazism without the inherent racism

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>>91732189
>nazism is racism

But that's wrong you fucking retard

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>>91727059
true marvel is gay and faggot but now i want a hydra shirt lol

>>91731135
You're the same Mexi-Kun from the other marvel thread aren't you

>>91727446
I wish a different faction used the uniforms Nazis used because they're really great looking but I can't ever admit that objective truth in public or everyone will think I wanna gas the jews when really I just appreciate good fashion.

>>91732467
It literally is.

>>91732900
No it isn't. There's nothing racist about wanting to maintain a group of individuals' nationality and cultural identity because that alone is a standalone group effort. It doesn't inherently discriminate against anybody; the only reason it would was because it was forced, because you'd have another party unwilling to grant the original party freedom to do so.

Stop believing everyone's generic interpretations because I guarantee they have never once seen the finer details of the system

>>91730148
>>>/leftypol/

>>91730209
>>>/leftypol/

>>91733277
>>91733313
Samefag

>>91730774
>>>/leftypol/

>>91727059
>confederate flag
That's not Nazi. That's the Confederacy.

>14 words
That's not Nazi. The 88 is Nazi.

>milk
That's a meme.

>Pepe
Also a meme.

So, where's the part that makes him a Nazi?

>>91730296
That's Nazism, not fascism.

>>91733339
no shit genius, you figure that out yourself?

>>91729792
>both women
Leave it to them to be the ones to throw a fit.

>>91728105
>protecting your species isn't "cool"
Tbh I see it from the X-men and Hydra's perspectives. Both are doing what is right for them. The only WRONG group is inhumans because they're collosal uncaring fuck ups, who arrogantly fop about acting like they're big fellers.

Hydra would be doing the universe a favour gassing the inhumies.

>>91733599
>DESU senpai I see it from the Inhuman and Hydra's perspectives. Both are doing what is right for them. The only WRONG group is the X-Men because they're colossal uncaring fuck ups, who arrogantly fop about acting like they're big fellers.

>Hydra would be doing the universe a favor gassing the mutie scum.

>>91728237
>eliminating threats to your people
>fucking over the prideful inhumies who are just as happy to genocide another people on your planet and may well just disappear into space if anything goes wrong rather than helping out
Very

>>91733643
Muggas aren't Inhumies who consider themselves above the earths problems. No matter what happens between them and homo sapien they're stark planetarians rather than holding filthy intergalactist beliefs like the inhumuies who are just here for a laugh.
Inhumies have no ties to earth other than nostalgia and convieniance. When it comes to exestential threats Homo superior and homo sapiens will always have a united front. Inhumie filth? Not so much.

It's fine by me. Watching damn fatasses wearing Nazi like outfits is gonna get a chuckle out of everyone.

>>91732467
>get to see a post of Mirio without some retarded shit poster bitching about 'muh tortured girl'
It's the little things that are making /co/ tolerable again.

>>91732260
no, anarchy is the opposite of communism

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>>91733749
>Nazi like outfits.

Yep, because /this/ is what a Nazi looks like.


Dumbass.

>>91730909
>national socialism
>not Stirner individuality
>not micronational isolationism
Shit opinions desu.

>>91734007
That's even bbetter

>>91733985
Anarchy is the opposite of any power structure, are you serious nigger?
Nazi/soci/commie are all on the same end. It's literally wrong to say otherwise.

I can't understand how people profess to have an understanding of these things but can't understand how the balance of social and economic policy defines the ideology. Further how big government and no government aren't the defining factors of how anarchistic any given system is.

Jesus Christ /co/

this is honestly the last nail in the coffin that proves that comic books have been completely subverted and taken over by identity politics
my brother used to run a comic shop and he'd get these little promotions and events and such all the time
like one of the neatest ones was a terminator promotion where they gave him a fake skynet security camera thingy, and he was supposed to put it right near the register, and then after a week or so, they sent a 2nd security camera, except it was completely trashed and broken, basically saying like, "oh the resistance came in and fought against skynet and stuff"
this promotion sounds like something similar, aka just giving out some free t-shirts and merch and doing a little bit of pseudo-roleplaying
marvel did nothing wrong here

>>91734007
god what an awful outfit
I really hope HydraCap gives everyone better uniforms

Just anything besides that

>>91734188
>he thinks the confederacy only was about slavery
>doesn't realize the confederacy came to be because of the misinterpretations and failures to acknowledge state rights

Could this board get any stupider?

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>>91734254
The primary right of which was to fucking own people.

>>91728092
It really bothers me that Red Skull thinks that Joker would make an excellent Nazi. It makes no sense

>>91734307
Gee, I wonder if you're the same poster. It's not as though your stance changed and your filename is from off-site or anything.
I'd agree with your rankings, I suppose. /a/>/co/ anyday, but I lurk both.

>>91734190
>marvel did nothing wrong here
They did everything wrong. You can't call Hydra the New Trump/Alt-Right the. Ask people to dress up as them. Dumbasses.

They should have asked them to dress up as the resistance movement.

>>91734350
The writers just went with the logic that if Nazis => Bad guys, then Bad guys => Nazis.

Not entirely wrong, but still stupid

>>91727059
It would be kind of cute, but imagine some crazy leftie who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality thinking you're an actual Nazi, and punches you in the face. And the media twists it into "brave young rebel punches Nazi sympathizer" instead of "little shit attacks comic book owner because of brand deal". I wouldn't want to go through that.

>>91727059
Fictional nazis aren't Nazis. The uniforms don't hold the same weight and history. Also, the mutants in X-Men at least have a raging superiority complex. I'd hate muties too if i was in the Marvel universe.

>>91734478
Good.
Maybe they'll stop pandering to those faggots.

The moment Bob, Agent of Hydra, said how Hydra were Nazis in Cable and Deadpool was the point I stopped enjoying Hydra.

>>91728237
From a 616 citizen perspective, muties should definitely be kept under check.

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>>91734555
This page.

>>91733158
>Nazism subscribed to theories ofracial hierarchyandSocial Darwinism, identifying Germans as part of what Nazis regarded as anAryanorNordicmaster race.[2]It aimed to overcome social divisions and create a homogeneous society, unified on the basis of "racial purity" (Volksgemeinschaft).

>>91734254
Its pretty much reached historical consensus that it was primarily about slavery. But don't take my word for, let's listen to Confederate VicePresident Alexander Stephens
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/cornerstone-speech/

>Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea [the natural rights of man]; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition.

>>91734701
No, I just don't want a guy to physically attack me all because of a superhero comic.

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>>91730296
>communism may have resulted in tyranny and millions of casualties but atleast they weren't RAYSIS
Brilliant.

>>91734555
>Bob not having bad information

??????

>>91734824
Except for all the times they were. EVEN BETTER. I love that /co/ is so bolshcore

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>>91728843
Ah yes, this old meme that refuses to die.

Hugo Boss did the tailoring for the Nazis, they didn't fucking design the uniforms. Jesus Christ, you stupid fucks will keep regurgitating this bullshit until the end of time.

>>91734190
I feel ya, man. As far back as I can remember, companies always encouraged stores to do these kind of promotions. I recall Marvel offering packages to stores who wanted to make it look like Skrulls took over during Secret Invasion. All this shit is just so exhausting, and it's kind of sad that so many people can't (or rather don't want to) separate reality from fiction and have to turn everything into some kind of ideological battlefield. I wonder if /a/ has to deal with this shit? Do people people throw a hissyfit every time someone dresses like a Zeon character and try to punch every Char Aznable or Ramba Ral? Are we going to see outrage because after it's success there will undoubtedly be tons of cosplay based on Saga of Tanya the Evil?

wouldn't that be seen as kinda unfair for the competition? You'd expect a comic book shop to want to sell to as many people as possible,and not losing 50% of the readers on a shitty stunt on something they don't even know is good.

>>91735097
I think this is the first time I witnessed a /fa/ggot get triggered. Neat.

>>91727446
You can't be a literal Nazi because the political party doesn't exist. you can be a white supremacist but that's only a fraction of what "being a Nazi" means.

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>>91727059
>It's racist to dress like a fictional Nazi organization
>Why would you want your employees to dress as your brands Bad Guys™

>>91735235
Hey if these guys want to think they're nazis let them be nazis.

>>91727684
Star Wars is popular and Stormtroopers are only a parallel to nazis (and are more like Roman legions politics wise anyway). Hydra are literal nazis

So, does that mean the Win-O'-Thread is now the ongoing Nazi thread on /co/?

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>>91735358
Pic related

>>91734713
>only the Germans practiced national socialism

>>91734555
>>91734661
Maybe Hydra Bob is an idiot and wrong, I mean who willingly hangs around Deadpool.

>>91735097
what is it with you clowns and worshipping dudes with shitty staches?

>>91735463
>pinkos
Ok grandpa

>>91729738
I don't think people dressed up as Stormtroopers are trying to sell their customers Trek merch

Okay encouraging stores to Hydra theme for "Hydra takeover event" is fun. People equating pretending to be the bad guys with actually holding evil beliefs is retarded. I once had a Jewish member of a friend group sperg out about someone getting a death eater tattoo because "death eaters are literally nazis" and interpreted as hateful towards her. (She also thought is was wonderful how being a werewolf was clearly representaive of AIDS, i mean huow fucking boring" These people will always be offended by everything, let them screech and let sensible people have fun.

>>91736009
Younger generation jews seem to have this weird entitled victim complex, without ever having lived through hardship themselves. Shrill SJW is their universally evolved form.

>>91730909
Let's be real.

If the Nazi Party came back for real, most of 4chan would be gassed or sent to a camp.

>Enjoys degenerate art (manga and anime)
>Sexually deviant ( twinks, futa, straight shota, loli, feet, furry, monstergirls)
>Refuse to work.
>Many have learning disabilities or mental illnesses.

>be SEA monkey
>love Nazi shit
nothing wrong with dressing as Hydra, they aren't even Nazi.
man I wish I could visit that Nazi cafe in Indonesia

>>91736985
>refuse to work
speak for yourself, Jimbo
>monstergirls
>deviant
DELETE THIS NOW

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They don't care. They support SJWs who outright attack real World War 2 veterans:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9e_1492464908

As if Marvel wasn't crapping on Kirby hard enough with Hydra Cap and their treatment of the F4.

>>91728237
>implying theres anything wrong with putting muties and inhumans in concentration camps or killing them

>>91738232
>implying there's anything wrong with Inhumans

>>91736009
>>91736568
this is why we date Asian women

>>91738300
This is why we date 2D waifus.

>>91738310
desu you made a better choice senpai

>>91727059
There isn't going to be some geriatric jew that wanders into your comic store, sees a grown man in green pajamas with a big yellow H across it, and clasps his old tattoo as he falls to the floor apoplectic.

>>91727446
This. my morals are different from yours people #getoverit

>>91729576
So be a lying faggot?

>>91727234

Sometimes a thing can be tainted by association.

The Swastika is a reverse of the buddhist Manji symbol, but nobody who wears a Manji symbol is going to be understood as respecting buddhism.

It's just going to be a Swastika to a laymen, even if it's going in the wrong direction.

Likewise, no matter how Marvel tries to distance themselves from the Nazi connection with HYDRA, it is what it is.

Nobody CARES that HYDRA existed long before the Nazi party, once they linked up with it, that well is forever poisoned.

>>91738225
I really hope no one here actually support antifa

>>91735363
I thought they were like alien lizard people who took over the ancient chinese version of SHIELD or something. I'm not a comics person, I heard this shit third-hand.

Hydra weren't even Nazi's in the movies.
They were explicitly using the Nazi's.

>>91738462
>There isn't going to be some geriatric jew that wanders into your comic store,
Only because they're too busy running the comic book industry.

>>91738751

Their Leader was a super-Nazi.

Red Skull is about as Nazi as Nazi gets.

>>91738754
Then what could possibly be the problem?

>>91738620
This

>>91734254
Yeah, they fought for state rights.
Guess which one of those rights was the most important to them, you fucking moron.

>>91738776
He wasn't in the movies.

>>91738620
Actually, the
>Nobody CARES
part is really where that should have ended.

>>91734824
>>91734892
pure ideology

the stigma against Marxism is because of the red scare

Americans are easily manipulated

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Lets be honest here is there a greater uniform than hydra? The campyness and the fact that puke green and bright yellow stand out. Its intentions supposed to look like a H but H outlined in yellow is such a blocky look. I think we can all agree functionally its atrocious, but comicly its fucking awsome.

The only thing left they need is a captital H on their forhead like a popout book.

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>>91738629
Well /co/ likes to shout down /pol/ whenever someone talks about Trump or non-Leftist views, but hates it when SJW stuff crops up in their products in spite of hosting constant gay/lesbian threads on the board.

So I guess it all depends (case-by-case) on how you feel about an Antifa ambushing and bashing in an unarmed man's head with a bike lock:

https://youtu.be/9qKCl9NL1Cg?t=17

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>>91739072
>Lets be honest here is there a greater uniform than hydra?

>>91738629
Not even antifa supports antifa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-VZ69oSJg8

>>91739117
No, not campy at all, just borring hazmat suit.

You dont forget a hydra suit.

>>91739097

I think /co/'s relationship with SJWs/ANTIFA is like China with North Korea. Will defend them to stick it to /pol/ but despises them otherwise.

My comic store is hosting a cosplay contest for FCBD. I kinda want to dress as a Hydra Soldier to it now.

>>91739097
Pol, noone even cares about antifa whatever fag. The only people who even know about antifa are pol faggots. Honestly I hope the anti-fags win.

>>91739181

Case in point

>>91739219

>>91738629
>>91738225
I'm gonna get out to these one of these days. Either I'll have a good laugh or just lose all hope for humanity.

>>91727059
Those women complaining have got to be the vocal minority of comic shops. I've never seen a comic shop with a predominantly female staff that wasn't feminist, sjw, tumblr sterotypes that don't know jack shit about comics beyond the last decade if your lucky. Now don't get me wrong I believe there are plenty of female fans just as knowledgeable as guys, they probably just shop at stores with established owners that know their shit. I hate that my only LCS is the kind of store to order 40 copies of America Chavez and sell out of it. Meanwhile in get watch them squirm when I order the Campbell covers of the current Red Sonja run (which they don't stock of course)

>>91739366
>I hate that my only LCS is the kind of store to order 40 copies of America Chavez and sell out of it. Meanwhile in get watch them squirm when I order the Campbell covers of the current Red Sonja run (which they don't stock of course)
You need to work out a way to do something for them, just so when they say thanks, you can reply with it was my privilege

>>91739366
You are probably one of thoes people who and the moment you see a twinge of liberalism you call them feminist SJW demons. And then shitpost online about them

>>91739453
Nah I believe him. No sane individual would actually buy Chavez.

>>91738225
They treated Kirby HIMSELF like shit and literally stile his original art boards for years. No one at Marvel has ever respected Kirby. Ever.

>>91734254
they didn't give a shit about the northern states' rights to not have people kidnap supposedly escaped slaves.

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>>91739219
That might prove difficult for them

>>91739411
I mean some of them are more clueless then others. They want all the time about Image and small press books. All I'm saying is watching a game of Marvel trivial pursuit would probably be hilarious.

>>91738225
Why do alt-retards hide behind old veterans? Is it the same reason they call a guy assaulting people with a stick based stickman but make posts like this without a hint of irony?

>>91741124

Only /co/ has people openly siding with ANTIFA just so they can stick it to /pol/. I suppose if /pol/ told you NOT to jump off a cliff you'd do it?

Sure is /pol/ in here.

I get they're Nazi's but they are "Fictional" Nazis. Like Nazis never wore green and yellow suits. I think it's way better than weebs on /a/ who would dress as actual Nazis because their favorite cartoon had silly characters dress as one. I think you could get away with being a fictional bad guy in the real world.

>>91741584
Hydra edit of Hitler when?

>>91729428
Turn 360 degrees and walk away

>>91741518
Shut it, antifa

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>>91741124
>>91741514
Antifa wants to outright stop Trump supporters from feeding and helping the homeless.

>>91741697
UMM ... you do know that 360 degrees keeps you in the same direction right???
I know that /Pol/ is f*cking stupid but c'mon ...

>>91742653
God, I don't like Trump at all but antifa is so fucking cringey

>>91727812
Oh, no. They are selling them T-shirts, and only if you buy enough Marvel books to qualify.

>>91728995
Hey, don't diss the 'forms. It's Hugo Boss.

>>91729428
Go get my DC books at another store. File a complaint with the Mall complaint service that comic book shop's clerks are dressed as nazis.

>>91742800

You don't remember Xbox 360 Console War memes?

I've changed my mind about Spencer. I thought his ability to write a story no one was satisfied with was a flaw. But seeing the massive butt hurt by both Libtards and Trump-babies I've come to realise that taking a shit in everybody's breakfast is a fucking superpower.
Shine on Spencer,
You glorious platinum turd.

>>91743087

The only problem though is that doesn't guarantee you universal appeal. If you piss off everyone but leave the normies going "meh", you've failed. Basically, he's not Matt or Trey Parker

>>91735097
>template was made by
Jesus Christ

>>91730209
my god, it's true that /co/ doesn't read comics.

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>>91728619
Reminder that Guillyman took the position of Emperor and says xenos are cool now.

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>>91728319
>Cuckolding your own lineage out of superpowers
>(Floating Timeline)

>>91727234
>HYDRA isn't nazis
When will this blatant revisionism stop?

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>>91727105
>people showing up in elaborate Kirby cosplay to beat up their local comic shop guys

>>91734458
This

Not the first time writers have made this dumbass calculation, Joker aligned with the ayatollah of Iran in Death in the Family.