Spider-Man 2 is the best superhero movie of all time.

>>91255662
It gets better an better with all the shitty news coming out of Homecoming.

I wish the studio let Raimi do what he wanted for SM3 instead of shoving Venom in there

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Fuck, you're right. Why are you right?

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>>91255662
>best superhero movie of all time.


I thought it was The Dark Knight Rises

Lego Batman

>>91256102
>Dark Knight Rises

>Not Dark Knight

>>91255662
This is not a superhero board

This belongs on >>>/tv/

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>>91255662

>>91255662
Is one of the few superhero movies with real action on it

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Raimi Spiderman and the original Superman movies are the only hero movies with heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9-fhQvYMwo

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>>91255662
Not it isn't.

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>>91256380
It's a meme, you dip.

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>>91256506

Why can't movies have colorful costume any more

Fucking DC, fucking Marvel

>>91256071
>Villain with a real backstory
>Big action scenes that aren't just people punching each other
>That part where the citizens in the train stand up for him

>>91255662
False


The Crow
then Logan

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>>91255662
absolutely 100% correct

>>91256380
>Not recognizing a banepost
Holy fuck

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>>91256924
Because MUH REALISM. Also, Marvel and DC are ashamed of their source material. That is why no one can beat raimi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K4kPEBjiZs

>>91257054
Well, these are not traditional heroes

>>91255662
This movie had tremendous heart.

i guess this is as good a place as any to query but Doc Ock in both the comics and the movie is not a super human. he's a dude who is really smart and had some tentacles fused to him through whatever. that's all, right?

so...how come one of Pete's punches doesn't just knock him out cold?

>>91255662
Not even close. People seriously need to removed the nostalgia goggles.

>>91258040
Presumably because Peter holds back and is usually trying to corner him and not kill him. He also wears some armor in the comics iirc, but its kind of a plot hole

>Poetry
>Aunt May is that an angel
>I put highly sophisticated and potentially malicious AI in my cybernetic arms because why the fuck not
>Eat your green vegetables, kids!

>>91258040
Pullingpunches.meme

>>91257196
>Well, these are not traditional heroes
>wolverine

the backflips you people do to justify your shit is astounding!

>>91258392
He never wore yellow in 17 years.

get the fuck out of here "traditional".

Only resemblance he bore to the comics was the claws and healing factor.

Maybe, but Spiderman 2 game was the best superhero game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTksCF6X8Y

>>91258290
Just like a comic

>>91261151
From the silver age.

>>91258620
Oh no, Doctor Connor's class. I got so caught up in what I was doing I forgot all about it!

>>91261219
Best age.

Peter is such a manchild in the Raimi films that it honestly boggles me how people can claim to be unable to take a teenage Spider-Man seriously. And yet you can take an adult who has the mental maturity and general thought process of an awkward thirteen-year-old seriously?

>>91258471
>not muh wolverine
He's a much wolverine as any of the Spider-Man's and the Batman's in their respective movies. Why do people get so autistic about him not wearing the suit?

>>91261446
>take a teenage Spider-Man seriously
>seriously
Here is your problem

>>91261491
He was autistic about the suit in Logan. He was autistic about anything comic related because muh realism

>>91261499
It's just that this is a common argument I see against teen Spider-Man, yet Raimi's Spider-Man really wasn't any better.

>>91255662
yet it still isnt a good spiderman movie

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>>91255662
No, that's this

>>91255662
I actually likelike avengers 1 the most

>>91261650
I'm beginning to believe

>>91256506
Anybody have this without the text?

>>91257140
>>91257762
You can tell Raimi was a massive comic fan through the first two films.

>>91262577
You can also tell that he's really, really old and doesn't understand Peter's character in the slightest. Or Doc Ock's.

>>91255662
No. The Dark Knight and Logan are.

>>91261650
Nah. The fact they changed the processors into batteries ruins it.

>>91262837
Yeah he made them human and not stupid cliches from a comic book that can't even keep itself consistent, ergo Superior Spiderman arc.

>>91263053
How is turning Peter into an awkward manchild any better?

>>91255662
Not only does it have colorful costumes but also very different kinf of humour from current superhero movies

>>91263053
Anon, Raimi's characters are stupid cliches, that is why they are great

>>91263073
Realism. It's a better character than being a quipping little twink which is what spidey is unless you delve deep down into the shitty comics.

The first two Raimi films and definitely the best super hero movies and they aren't totally ashamed of source material. Even three isn't that bad if you focus on the Sandman and Harry plot. Even "emo" Peter is actually kinda funny if you just accept it as what it is, I dunno I had a huge grin re watching that stuff at least instead of getting butthurt about it.


Homecoming looks like such a huge disappointment in every way, I've never liked Tom Holland and any point he's whiney and pathetic looking in a way that seems annoying and punchable instead of endearing and underdog rooting. Everything with RDJ is annoying and I hope he's killed in Infinity War I'm sick of him guzzling down Marvels budget and sticking his cock into everything they make at this point.

My favorie is The Dark Knight, and unironically Batman v Superman, mostly for the action scenes, which i loved, it only needed a better script.

>>91255662
Yes. It had the heart, genuineness, and sense of fun of Donner's Superman only with the special effects and action to pull off a capeshit classic.

Toby Maguire is no Chris Reeve though.

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>>91256865
What about '89 Batman? It gave us a live action Gotham City and the music for it is amazing.

>tfw there hasn't been music as memorable as Raimi's Spider-Man, Burton's Batman, and Donner's Superman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vrfEoc8_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZAk2rfESU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qcJS_e2_hY

>>91264777
>music as memorable
This really bothers me about the MCU. There is not memorable music at all. Without music, the movies feel soulless

>>91255662

I don't think anything will ever beat it, nothing has the heart this movie had. I just watched it yesterday and saying it holds up is an understatement.

>>91264914

Very true, the last memorable soundtrack in a superhero movie was probably The Dark Knight

It's legitimately one of my favorite movies ever. That train scene sticks with you man.

>>91264985

It's my actual favorite movie ever, but sometimes if I feel kinda embarrassed I'll say it's Shawshank Redemption.

But really, Spiderman 2 and Princess Bride are the actual best movies ever, I love my camp

>>91258040
In Ock's 1st or 2nd comic appearance, Peter did knock him out in one punch. And usually their battles in the comic don't involve Peter actually hitting Ock with his fist, until the end.

The movie doesn't really have an excuse what with Spider-Man landing a bunch of blows on Ock without much effect.

>>91256924
>muh color

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>>91264777
Hulk 2003 was a real comicbook movie too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMrwjA82XIQ

>>91265110
jesus fucking christ, this shit makes green lanterns cgi look good

>not posting the scene that made it great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-qMBS1frkM

>>91265110
Man, I keep forgetting how good that theme was. Even the Lou Ferrigno Hulk had a bit of heart to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0w1W5RGx9Q

>>91264210
I legitimately love the destruction scene in the opening, and all of Batfleck's action scenes. I just hate everything in between.

>>91265255
That was amusing and touching at the same time. I remember laughing pretty hard when I first saw that. They also played the original theme in the ending credits of the first film iirc.

>>91264210
The action (what little there was) in BvS was solid and the real gem Snyder got right. Would've seriously been a great film had he delved more into that and less with thematic-pondering and nu-Luthor.

Or better yet, just wish that action was in an already-awesome trilogy like Nolan's.

>>91256068
What news, anon?

>>91255662
You are completely right. Though I'd say "best live-action" since I think Incredibles is better written. But only a tiny bit. :)

>>91256434
You and Op are both retarded.

So the bar is still really low then.

>>91265732
Which one do you think is better? And why?

>>91263073
>The dude who got his uncle killed out of laziness isn't a manchild

>>91265110
Hulk 2003 wasn't even a real movie.

The final scene is still one of my favorite scenes in a cape film. Peter and MJ finally get together and have their first kiss as a couple until they're interrupted by a siren. She drops the Go Get em tiger line and he goes swinging off elated because the woman that he loves loves him back and chose him* and goes off to save the day as she looks on from the window, pensive and wondering what the hell she got herself into and what's in store for them.


*I did feel bad for JJJ jr. though.

>>91265985
>Tell her not to open the caviar

IF I FLIP THE PIZZAS MR AZIZ WILL FLIP OUT

>>91265948
>Not liking 2003 Hulk
This single scene is better than the whole MCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnh2AplyKi4

>>91256380
GET THIS NEWFAG OUTTA HERE

>>91255662
Captain America: The First Avenger is.

>>91266060
That whole scene was so well done too. I felt for the guy and the way that J.K. delivered that line and the way his wife looked at him made me feel terrible for him.

I did like that they included that scene too because even though MJ and Peter got together, someone else got hurt in the process.

SM2's greatest strength is that is feels genuine. It's cheesy and cartoony as fuck but it pulls it off so well.

>>91265985
Good choice anon, the ending is one of my favorites. meanwhile in the MCU we'll never get an ending like this because they have to remind us about the 8 upcoming movies with all their mid/post-credits scenes.

Also, this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ5Irvc4Je8

>there will never be another comic book movie opening this good

kill me now

>>91266246
Generic villain, ridiculous superscience not even requiring a night's sleep to take effect, clumsy romance - it's got some incredibly effective things going for it (mostly Chris Evans's performance and the writing for Cap when he's not in the romantic scenes), but it's not a terribly good movie, anon.

>>91256888
I wouldent classify anyone in this movie as a "hero"

official cape kino list
Raimi Spiderman 1/2
Superman (1978)
Logan
Iron Man
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Captain America the First Avenger and Winter Soldier
Batman (1989)

Did I miss anything?

>>91266651
And only one of them is even technically "super", maybe two if smartest-dude-ever counts.

>>91257762
>THE HEART ANON
>FIRST WE MUST CAPTURE HIS HEART

Those movies still hold up so well because holy shit Rami's gonzo cinematography and camerawork fit Spidey like a glove on a hand. There behind the scenes stuff talks about all the shit they had to invent to make those swooping vertigo web-swinging shots, and I don't think anyone could have come up with that literally high-flying camerawork but Raimi.

Any movie Raimi directs just OOZES his personal style. His Spider-man films had such a strong sense of identity, but all the modern Marvel films have a really bland "house style." People can love or hate DC's house style but at least it's eliciting some kind of opinion. Marvel, you just look at it and say...welp, yea, that's a competently shot movie I guess.

>>91266726

Batman '66.

I'm not joking. I actually adore the production design of the whole movie and show, and that's just one thing I love about it.

>>91267288
lol

>>91265201

fuck you that movie was greate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsmTWdPnQ0s

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Winter Soldier has the only theme I consistently remember from the MCU movies and the end credits sequence is amazing. Still feel like I was robbed of a true Captain America 3.


>>91266395
>the entire opening sequence is a recap of the first movie
>Danny Elfman music

>>91266726
The first Avengers movie is still really great and still the best execution of a big team up.

>>91267822
i absolutely love the first avengers movie and civil war

>>91267822
It's an alright action flick for me. The problem with it is that it has the The Force Awakens syndrome, where once the shine and the inititial excitement and fun factor of the movie wears off, there's nothing to chew on. The plot is barebones, the characters are drawn in loose brushstrokes and the action is pretty by the numbers. If there weren't four movies preceeding Avengers, the movie wouldn't work at all.

I unironically prefer Age of Ultron, because Whedon at least tried to do an actual character examination there and to move them forward instead of just doing a capstone to Phase 2. The movie had more of a substance to make it stand on its own. Of course, he also wanted all of Avengers 1's action and fun on steroids and you've had Marvel muscling in with their worldbuilding and the movie ended up being way overblown. But in the moments where you really see what Whedon was going for (the dream scenes, the farm and the party, Wanda), the movie really shines.

I'd still prefer Whedon over Russos on Infinity War. Russos will make a competent, enjoyable movie, but it'll be so plain. I'd prefer a messy, flawed movie with a bit of heart and something to say over a piece of craft.

>>91266395
I miss cape films having opening sequences, I mean there was one in a recent cape film that I enjoyed but I'm not going to open that can of worms right now.

>>91266726
X-Men 2 and DOFP.

No. The Dark Knight is head and shoulders above this. I'd say Winter Soldier, Iron Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy too. If we're counting animated, Incredibles, Return of the Joker, Mask of the Phantasm as well.

I still unironically believe this too.

>>91268333
>Trips of truth
Welp that confirms SM 2 as the best superhero movie. Good thread.

>>91268185
GotG is possibly the only movie so corny it can make Raimi's Spider shit seem dark

Get real

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>>91267822
no it wasn't, it was boring and terrible as a stand-alone movie
the heroes interacting with eachother was kind of cool if you've watched their respective movies beforehand it's not bloody worth it, though, and the hulk stuff was great but they shown most of that during the fucking trailers so there's barely a point to even watching the film
also the villain, commonly the best character in capeshit movies, was really fucking bland
fuck tumblr for making him out to be some kind of prodigy

>>91256102
For you

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Would this barely count?

>>91262995
I changed it back into processors right there in the theater because my brain prefers unfucking that sort of shit on the fly to raging about retardation.

>>91268411

>GotG is possibly the only movie so corny it can make Raimi's Spider shit seem dark

And?

I'm not a big GOTG fan, but The Fifth Element is the corniest movie ever made and I love every second of it.

>>91268507
Yo finally, I thought I was the only one who didn't care for it.
Personal list:
1. Guardians/Dark Knight
2. Iron Man
3. Dredd/Barman Begins
4.Winter Soldier
5. Ant-man

Neither Avengers movie makes in my top 5 (7).

Batman 89
The Crow
The Dark Knight
Superman
Iron Man

>>91269035
Barman?

Spider-Man isn't even on your radar?

>>91269065

>The Crow

it can't rain all the time

>>91262577
>You can tell Raimi was a massive comic fan through the first two films.
>massive comic fan

...which is why he completely fucked up both Peter and Spider-Man's characterization, right?

The character is SO dissimilar to the comics that it might as well be a completely different character.

>>91263053
>ergo Superior Spiderman arc.
Oh, so you're just a filthy newfag and turbo casual, got it.

>>91263350
>and they aren't totally ashamed of source material

>Completely changes the personality of all the characters
>Title character is so different from the source material that it might as well be a different character entirely
>Organic webbing
>Ock is mind controlled by his robo arms
>aren't ashamed of source material

kek sure thing anon.

>>91264210
>being this casual

>>91269232
Maybe the source material was too seriously for Raimi.

>>91269255
You've never actually read a Spider-Man comic have you?

>people arguing whether something is or isn't ashamed of the source material

This is seriously some of the dumbest shit on the Internet.

Any director with their own personal vision is going to adapt pre-established material with their own style and storytelling, that's like the basic groundwork of being an actual director, no one is going to subsume themselves to the whims of other people just to placate fanboys.

The idea that people have to stay close to source material in order to respect it is some Stephen King levels of whining. If you want the source, go read that. The fun of adaptations is seeing interesting people taking material in different, personal directions.

This all just reeks of immaturity.

>>91269310
That's a shit opinion, anon.

Adaptations don't have to be a 1:1 copy. But if you're going to stray so far away from the source material that it doesn't even resemble it (beyond superfluous things like costuming).... why not just, you know, make a new character?

>>91269343

>why not just, you know, make a new character?

Because iconography exists outside of the original story. It's why Sherlock Holmes can be a Conan Doyle novel, a cyberpunk future cartoon or a Disney movie where he's a talking mouse.

This is doubly true with comic books since with the Big Two they aren't written by one person with an ending point. They're passed around to different people with different visions. You can't argue a purity testy with characters who have essentially been written by committee for decades.

>>91269385
>I don't give a fuck if the movie resembles the source material in any way

Get the fuck out of here.

>>91269385
You can just admit you don't actually read comics. Its ok.

>>91266726
I can agree with this. I'd also add Dredd and The Avengers (mostly cause no other superhero made me as excited as that one).

>>91256888
Great movie, meh adaptation, but no one is really a hero here.

>>91255662
Not a very high bar

>>91265596
>What news, anon?
No "with great power" speech
No Daily Bugle
Spidey AI
Vulture hates Tony
Homecoming sounds like a mess

>>91265110
I loved this movie as a kid. I stuck through the more quiet parts that didn't even bore me, just confused me, because I loved seeing the Hulk on screen. I haven't watched it in years and I don't want to; I'd rather preserve the memory.

>>91269699
>No "with great power" speech
Good.

>No Daily Bugle
Doesn't really affect anything

>Spidey AI
This is dumb. But we don't know what extent this will play in the story. We know it won't be in the full movie, though.

>Vulture hates Tony
That's a problem.... why?

Sounds like you're just looking for reasons to bitch.

>>91269724
I was the opposite.

I was bored, but I rewatched a year or so ago and I really fell in love with it.
The edits are...odd, but the acting, writing, and themes are all played incredibly well.

Ang Lee understood how the Hulk could be displayed as a story about family, abuse, and emotion - and did an incredible job.

>>91262995
They could've salvaged that one too.

>"But humans can't produce enough body heat to power a robot"
>"How do you know that?"
>"It's simple physics! Check any physics book and you'll know that it's bullshit"
>"And where did you read these books?"
>"In school...in the Matrix...fuck."
Something along those lines.

>>91269232
>Organic webbing
Oh god, what a mistake. Honestly, who the fuck believes that it makes sense for Peter to shoot webbing from his wrists?!

Building the advanced web cartridges as a high school student is much better because it explains that Peter is smart

>>91269749
>>No "with great power" speech
>Good.

>>91270095
>Honestly, who the fuck believes that it makes sense for Peter to shoot webbing from his wrists?!

If he's meant to get "spider powers" it's what normal people would EXPECT

>>91270132
It is.

Reminder: We basically already got that speech in Civil War. Why is it necessary to have tit in Homecoming?

>>91270135
Yeah, lets cater to the normies' expectations, instead of showing them how rad the character is in the source material. That's a great idea.

Raindrops[
/spoiler]

>>91270095
>Honestly, who the fuck believes that it makes sense for Peter to shoot webbing from his wrists?!
People who were born in the mid to late 90s, who never read a comic in their life, and first exposure to Spider-Man was these movies

So, cancer, casuals, fake geeks, gamer girls, etc

>>91269749
>>Vulture hates Tony
>That's a problem.... why?

Same reason Tony being shoehorned into an integral part of Spider-Mans origin is a problem to begin with. It's not a Spider-Man movie, it's an Avengers movie, starring Spider-Man

>>91270205
>spoiler tag fail

This fag.

>>91270232
>Same reason Tony being shoehorned into an integral part of Spider-Mans origin is a problem to begin with

First off, this isn't an origin movie at all.

Second off, the entire point of the movie is to establish that Peter can be a hero free from Tony's guidance. Are you truly incapable of understanding this?

Thirdly: Just because Toomes has a personal vendetta against Tony, doesn't mean that things do not become personal between him and Spider-Man. They're actively keeping how Vulture and Spider-Man first encounter each other hushed. It will become personal between them, too.

These aren't even hard concepts to grasp, anon.

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batman returns will always reign supreme.

>>91270232
Vulture always starts out having a vendetta against someone else (Gregory Bestman, Norman Osborn) and shifting gears to Spider-Man once Spider-Man keeps meddling in his business.

>>91255662
Ant-Man wasn't that bad, or at least would've been more tolerable if:
>Paul Rudd could deliver jokes
>Girl wasn't so forced as a love interest and suddenly gets all her backstory dumped from her shit dad
The villain being super obvious and hilariously evil was actually a greater point since they become so stupidly bad. It was more of a heist movie with a hero anyways.

>>91270291
>First off, this isn't an origin movie at all.
His "origin" in the MCU was in Civil War, a Captain America movie that was really an Avengers movie, in which Tony Stark was integral to Peter's origin into the Captain America Avengers movie, in which case he was introduced by being part of Tony Stark's Avengers

>>91270401
>that was really an Avengers movie
This is incorrect. It was a Captain America movie. The focus was on Cap and developing Cap's story specifically. But you're apparently too dense to follow a basic plot.

> in which Tony Stark was integral to Peter's origin
No. His origin happened off camera, dumbass. Peter is already Spider-Man when Tony meets him. Again, following a plot isn't your strong suit at all.

>in which case he was introduced by being part of Tony Stark's Avengers
And then immediately kicked out. And told in Homecoming that he is NOT part of Tony's Avengers... by Tony himself.

You really need to learn to pay attention, anon.

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Did you guys ever read about the first draft of the script?

>Two years after Norman Osborn's death, Peter Parker and Harry Osborn are living together, but Harry soon begins experiencing nightmares and hallucinations, and decides to move back to Osborn Manor, forcing Peter to relocate to a rundown apartment.

>Meanwhile, Mary-Jane Watson is estranged from Peter and struggling with her acting career. She develops a relationship with Dr. Otto Octavius, the scientist who created the genetically-modified spiders that he theorizes gave Spider-Man his powers. Octavius has also created four mechanical arms and a "pacer chip" coded to Spider-Man's DNA, that could reverse his powers.

>Obsessed with revenge, Harry puts a $10 million bounty on Spider-Man's head through the Daily Bugle, turning the entire city against him. Octavius becomes addicted to the endorphin needed to endure the pain of being connected to the arms, and begins being influenced by then. He spirals out of control after being mugged during a date with MJ, viciously beating the crooks and going on a rampage, forcing Peter to intervene. In the ensuing fight, Octavius's arms are fused to his spine, for which Spider-Man is blamed. Tired of the constant persecution, Peter steals the pacer chip and injects it in himself, supressing his powers and allowing him to have a normal life. Spider-Man's disappearance causes Harry to further spiral into insanity.

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>>91270466
>Octavius escapes, hellbent on revenge, and volunteers to kill Spider-Man in exchange for the $10 million, but fails to drawn Spider-Man out of hiding. When Harry reneges on their deal, Octavius kidnaps both him and MJ to lure Spider-Man into a trap. Upon learning of their capture, Peter carves the chip out of his arm with a butcher knife and becomes Spider-Man once again.

>Spider-Man confronts Octavius at an abandoned warehouse, but is overpowered and his identity is exposed to MJ and Harry. Octavius conspires to kill Spider-Man and extract his spinal fluid, which Octavius believes can be used as a cure for his deteriorating health. MJ appeals to Octavius's humanity, and he momentarily falters, allowing Spider-Man to escape.

>Octavius experiences a nervous breakdown and lashes out, damaging the building's foundations in the process, before Spider-Man subdues him. As it begins to crumble, Spider-Man rescues MJ and Harry, and attempts to save Octavius as well, but Octavius, in a brief lapse of sanity, realizes the monster he's become and elects to stay behind and die.

>Peter and MJ reunite, but Harry bitterly accuses Peter of killing his father and renounces his friendship to both and returns to Osborn Manor, where he's further tormented by visions that lead him to his father's secret lair and the revelation that Norman was the Green Goblin.

>Meanwhile, MJ helps Peter back to his apartment to tend to his wounds, where they declare their feelings for each other and decide to pursue a relationship, despite all the dangers it might lead to.

>>91270455
You MCU sycophants are beyond tiresome, you're drones. You've always been drones. I'm not arguing with you because you don't read comics.

>>91270512
>You MCU sycophants are beyond tiresome, you're drones

What? Because I actually payed attention to the movie while watching Civil War and while watching the Homecoming trailer... I'm a mindless drone?

All you're doing is showing how much of an idiot you really are. At least try to hold a coherent discussion, instead of just spouting off obviously false information.

>I'm not arguing with you
You aren't even arguing at all. You're just shitposting with clearly false info,

>because you don't read comics.
Nice meme. Regardless, I guarantee I read a lot more comics than you.

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>people shitty on Raimi Spiderman because NO MUH
Ok, It's a valid complain.
>same people sucking IronMan 4
Are you fucking kidding me? And the whole MCU is NO MUH, retards. Only Hulk is alright and everything else is different from the comics. Hypocrites

>>91270566
>I guarantee I read a lot more comics than you.
And I guarantee they all came out post the year 2000
Good for you

>>91255662
Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice was better.

>>91270627
Nice assumption, moviefag. But you'd be wrong. Go back to sucking the organic web spewing cock of your lord Raimi.

>>91270610
>and everything else is different from the comics.
You don't actually read comics, do you?

>>91270512
>>91270627
>All of that "REEEEEEEEEEE"
kek

>>91257054
Not even close.

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>>91270675
>the MCU fag is calling me a moviefag, after quoting posts where if he was reading the thread I also made fun of Raimifag millennials

Newfag scum

I dunno about "best" but Batman Returns if my favorite.

>>91270763
see: >>91270711

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>>91270455
i love civil war, a lot
but the avengers is still my favorite of all time

>>91270831
They're very different movies. I enjoy both a lot. But I think I prefer Civil War.

>>91255662
Watchmen > Spiderman 2 > X2 > BvS > Dark Knight > Logan

>>91270695
Do you? The MCU is nothing like the comic, retard.

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>>91270892
the cap movies are close to it on my list, TFA, WS, and CW were all really enjoyable

>>91270918
>Casual: The Post

>>91270675
How can you fault Raimi's organic webbing when you support "uncle Tony", robo suit, and Spider-Lad being part of the Avengers as soon as he is introduced into the movies as if that was always part of his character.

I know how, you're an idiot.

>>91270945
>I Can't Form Real Arguments So I Meme Instead: The Post

>>91270942
Agreed. The Cap trilogy (collectively, as its effectively one consistent story that runs through the three movies), is the best thing the MCU has put out, in my opinion.

>>91270970
Cap 1 into Avengers and back out with WS is great. Just take out CW.

>>91270952
>when you support "uncle Tony"
I didn't. I pointed out that the entire movie is about telling Tony to fuck off and that Peter can be a hero without him. But, that's something you learn by, you know, actually paying attention and not just shit posting.

>>91265110
I love the music in this movie.

>>91270964
I don't need to form an argument. Your opinion on the best comic book movies is the most casual opinion ever. Anyone who props up Watchmen, Spider-Man 2 (let alone failing to even spell "Spider-Man" properly), Batman V Superman and Dark Knight is just a soulles sheep and turbo casual.

>>91271019

>I don't need to form an argument. Your opinion on the best comic book movies is the most casual opinion ever. Anyone who props up Watchmen, Spider-Man 2 (let alone failing to even spell "Spider-Man" properly), Batman V Superman and Dark Knight is just a soulles sheep and turbo casual.

Oh, my mistake, I thought you were serious.

>>91270918
>Spiderman

Casual detected.

>>91271060
Casual or not, it's objectively right.

>>91271042
>This non-argument

A wee bit hypocritical of you, Anon.

But you do have some pretty shit opinions on movies. BvS was utter shit and Dark Knight was a tonal and editing nightmare: https://vimeo.com/28792404

>>91265048
Are you literally me?

>>91271100
>Objectively
>Includes BvS

You're not fooling anyone with that bait.

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MCUfags are as bad as SUfags

>>91266395
>last MCU movie to have an opening sequence was The Incredible Hulk

Why'd they stop doing that?

>>91262995
>The Matrix doesn't just serve for the purpose of getting energy from humans, and in fact scientists consider this impossible anyway since the human body is a net energy consumer even when idle. The primary purpose of the Matrix is to use each person's brain for "cheap memory" and extra computing power (see Matrix Comics: Goliath). The Wachowskis only offered the "power source" explanation in the movie because it was simpler for the audience to understand than the concept of "humans collectively forming a matrix of computing". This would make the Matrix sort of like a giant brain, where the smaller brain of each person inside of it is like a single neuron in the larger brain.

>>91269749
how is never getting the "with great power" speech good?

>>91270466
>>91270479
I prefer the other script where Spider-man gives up being Peter Parker and Hangs out with Black Cat

They loosely adapted this version of the script for the game

>>91272942
Peter never said it in the comics, until far more recent issues. It was originally just in the narration. Why should it be shoehorned into this movie?

Show. Don't tell.

Show that Peter understands he has to act. Which is clearly a big theme of Homecoming, as we see it flat out said in the trailer.

Lets also not forget that Peter basically already said it in Civil War. There is no need to shoehorn it into the movie. Viewers already know it, as it was crammed down their throats for the last five movies. Just like they already know Spider-Man's origin.

>>91269999
This quadsman is right. It is possible.

>>91257140
So cheesy but soo good, it's like a 4 cheese pizza.

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>>91258620
haha

no

>>91255662
Best superhero movie of all time is obviously The Winter Soldier.

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>>91274649
That's bait, nigga. No one is falling for it.

(SM2, IM, DK) >>> everything else

>>91274573
Shit bait

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>>91258620
Ultimate Spiderman was better if you were too poor to buy a PS2 and had to relay on your PC at the time

>>91262577
Bruce Campbell mentions in his autobio that they had volumes of the comics on set.
Also that MacGuire hates Campbell for some reason I can't remember.

>>91266954
Smartest-dude-ever who is also fast enough to catch a bullet.

>>91266395
X-men Origins and Watchmen had great opening title sequences, regardless of what you think of the rest of the movie.

>>91270095
There MANY ways to make Peter smart.

Web cartridges are a cheap and stupid way.

>>91279103
>X-men Origins
Only complaint I have with the opening is Logan yelling "back to back" to set it up for their fight against !Deadpool.
The rest of the opening sequence has no speech, only roars and growls, while him yelling it out, only to set up said section of the fight, really tears away from the scene.
Otherwise I agree with you.

>>91270918
I was slightly on board with ya until
>BvS

>>91274547
you can even smash a bus and use it as a skateboard

>>91258040
what if they made it so that in the movie he DID knock him out with one punch but the tentacles just kept attacking

>>91271131

Yes I am