Thunderbolts featuring Luke Cage Storytime (Part 3)

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Oh yeah, and Ghost sw Crossboneskill the guy THEY WERE SENT TO SAVE.

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Karla, that isn't how you do target practice.

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Looks like their nanites do more than just control they're powers. Looks like they also monitor them.

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This may surprise some of you who weren't around during this, but when Steve first came back, he didn't take back the shield and title from Bucky at first. Instead, as the head of SHIELD, he went by the name "Super Soldier". I think he used that hologram shield too.

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Ah, got to love the perverted women's wing.

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As has been mentioned a few times, Ghost tried to kill Stark in the lead-up to Siege, in Fraction's Iron Man.
Weirdly enough, at the same time he was doing everything he could do subvert Norman Osborn while in the Thunderbolts, to the point of helping Cho call the rest of Pym's Avengers to Siege.

The point I'm getting at is that Ghost has a morality that doesn't quite fit in with normal people, but is consistent in and of itself.

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>"Nothing personal, kid."

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>that one woman outright flashing him in the second panel

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This was during that brief period just after Siege, where Loki was dead and Kid Loki hadn't been discovered.

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Well, at least Thor isn't holding it against her.

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>Crossbones's glowing eyes in the first and fourth panel

>>90365054

You know, one thing I do appreciate about this run now that we have "Bucky and Kobik...and those other guys, I guess" to compare it to is that Parker at least bothered to give us reasons for why Luke is leading them and why he is sticking with them.

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As the cover implies, this issue is big. I'm leaving out the Thunderbolts #1 reprint, but keeping the Interview.

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>"REALLY? This is your transportation? HOW?"
>"Hank Pym."

It's sad that that basically answers most of those questions.

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>>90365330
And even then, despite being called "Cagebolts" as often as it's called "Parkerbolts", Cage doesn't take up spotlight nearly as much as you'd expect.

When I saw the announcement for the new Thunderbolts and saw Bucky, this was what I was expecting.

I was wrong, so wrong.

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This is what happens when your escape plan involves a monster linked to the Nexus of ALL realities. You may not know where you'll end p.

>>90364962
Bump so I can read this when I get home from work.

>>90365014
LUKE CAGE WAS RIGHT ABOUT HIM NOT BELONGING ON THE TEAM.

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Really, Iron Man? Something weird? No shit.

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And speaking of weird, look at THAT motherfucker.

>>90365397

The T-Bolts also aren't just extensions of Luke and Parker doesn't shit on them or their prior leaders to prop up Luke (compare how Parker handled Zemo at the tail-end of his run vs. how Zub handles him).

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I wonder if Man-Things's "burn at the touch" power works on animals, because then they'd DEFINITELY know if the fish were afraid.

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>"Thor, meet the Frog."
>"Good morn', Sir."

I love how, unlike the rest, Thor doesn't even have a moment's hesitation. He's seen weirder stuff than this before. At least the Frog isn't dressed like him.

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This is why you never tell Ghost to shut up. Because even when he knows something useful, HE WILL STAY SHUT UP.

Have a bump.

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>>90365586
And to think /co/ had high hopes back then.

Well, I was optimistic, at least.

>>90365347
Tfw you realize even the biggest book can barely make it past #50 these days

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>>90365454
Oh, you have NO idea how right you are, Anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBKjBU2Chxs

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Before anyone asks how Luke Cage is knocking Juggernaught back, remember that it was established earlier that Cyttorak is annoyed at him, so he's getting less power than normal.

>>90365733
Looney Tunes still going strong 237 issues. RIP hellblazer and fables.

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Unlike the others, who are at least TRYING to escape, this asshole's main goal now is killing Steve.

>>90365101
I'm just surprised he didn't start Cap Inc. desu

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As one Anon has been saying since we started, this shit is what happens when you put Crossbones on a team!

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>>90365700
Thanks for the bump, Anon.

>>90365702
I always knew Zub was mediocre, but I had no idea how badly he would shit the bed.

>>90365847
No Problem.

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Ignoring the whole "Stark is only a small business" thing, this is an example of how odd Ghost's morality is.

>>90365014
Like I said, it was a terrible idea to put an irredeemably evil psycho on the team under the dubious pretense of "he'll set an example to the others of what not to be like"

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>>90365733
>>90365796
Marvel's books are lucky to get to 20!

I still remember Marvel celebrating Carol reaching 100 issues, but unlike when, say, Spider-Girl did that, they had to count the issues from her every run.

Which SCREAMS like cheating, since they're counting the Ms. Marvel book AND her Captain Marvel books, even though they're different series, but whatever.

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Uh oh, Juggernaught is having an epiphany.

>>90365205
I do find it weird that Ghost is so obsessed with Stark while ignoring actual evil corporations like Roxxon.

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>>90365767
Damn it Anon, I got excited for a bit because I thought that may have just been a really late game I never heard of.

>>90365908
If Marvel is counting Ms. Marvel and Captain mayday still far ahead almost 150 issues.

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So this is the first time the rest of the Thunderbolts (besides Ghost, at least) discover Crossbones's new powers.

>>90365287
Damn, she actually drew blood, her jaw must be pretty damn powerful.

>>90365859

Zubbolts is irredeemably awful on every level. Like, it has nothing going for it even as a standalone story. I am curious if and how Spencer will handle this over in the Hydra Cap book.

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Remember when his powers were just "makes a hole in front of his face to shoot from"? Yeah, his powers are evolving.

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>>90365811
That was already a mini, involving Time Travel. That was what I was hoping the Captain Marvel Corp was going to be, but I doubt you want to hear me whine about that any more.

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>>90365999
Remember, she is an Asgardian as well, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

>>90365660
Poor Juggernaut, he's probably lost count of how many dimensions he's been stuck in.

>>90366040
>whine about that any more.
Do it.

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>>90365179
Ghost is basically a vigilante, except that he doesn't fight guys with superpowers. He fights corruption and corporations.

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>>90365893
Well, if they keep him on after THIS, you know something's wrong.

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I haven't actually read any Man-Thing outside of this run. Is the Frog a character from his series?

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Even Juggernaught can tell when Man-Thing has found a waifu.

>>90365825
Crossbones didn't kill Steve though. It's true that he sniped him, but Steve only took the bullet to save a cop, he could have dodged it. It was a brainwashed Sharon Carter that actually delivered the "killing blow" (which it actually wasn't, long story).

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>"So you're staying on? Even after the team pulled an escape?"
>"What escape, Steve?"

So yeah, the team's sticking together, because most of them are actually showing signs of redemption. Fuck Crossbones, though.

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>>90366092
We're getting a Ghost issue next, so I'm trying to keep it vague enough that people keep interest.

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>>90366149
I READ that book, and even I can't explain what the retcon was easily.

>>90366095
>No! I'm better than him...any of them! I'm the best!
To the surprise of nobody, Crossbones is now once again Red Skull's flunky.

>>90365963
I would like a story involving Ghost giving some Intel about Roxxon or Alchemax to some Journalist.
Like him being the reason why a scandal like Libor scandal being discovered. Ghost has the potential to be the perfect opposite to Tony.

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I guess Parker didn't like the Frog, for whatever reason.

>>90366211
It wasn't a retcon, Brubaker had it planned all along.

>>90366118
Speaking of which, did that Stein-mini start yet?

>>90366166
We haven't seen Juggernaut since that one Amazing X-Men arc before Secret Wars. I wonder when he'll show up again.

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The other Shadowland books had a few pages summing up their history, but Thunderbolts left theirs for the big 150.

Unlike that, it's written in-character. Since we haven't read much Thunderbolts, I'm keeping it in. If you're interested, you can check Desu, I think JSAnon's storytime of the series still works.

>>90365205
> hate-on

There's a Ghost/Iron Man slashfic out there somewhere

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>>90366240
Retcon is a poor word choice, I admit that. Still, the whole "time travel bullet" thing is weird, to say the least, and I hope to God I'm just remembering that poorly, and the real version makes more sense.

>>90366118
No, Parker created the Frog for this issue.

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>"Honest-to-gosh-Hawkeye himself, with the trick arrows, and the cocky smirk, and the upteen years of Avengers service..."

I think this is the last time Marvel has given Clint Barton any serious respect in years.

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>that time Songbird kissed Hawkeye

>>90366359
I think Ewing showed Clint respect in New Avengers. It's a pity that because of Bendis he had to be taken out of the book uncerimoniously.

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>and then he got with Karla too

As a classic Thunderbolts fan, I always get annoyed when people only write Hawkeye's love interests as "Jessica Drew" and "Mockingbird", if only because I always found this dynamic more interesting. Yet another thing to blame Hawkguy for, I suppose.

>>90366309
It was pretty weird that the Big Two had their leading characters killed off then returned via time travel shenanagins within a year of each other. Weird parallel thinking

>>90366388
>Charcoal
That ended badly

>>90366235
What the fuck? Just kill the frog like that? I'm not expecting him to have done anything, but that's shitty.

>>90366426
Don't forget Black Widow

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>>90366442
Because legal shit got involved, and they didn't "technically" have the rights for him.

>>90366426
It's a pity that Marvel Studios doesn't have the rights to Gyrich. He would have worked better than Ross in CA: Civil War.

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In case you're curious, this page basically sums up all of New Thunderbolts.

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>>90366473
I knew I forgot someone. After all that Daredevil, I lumped her in with him.

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What's that, Anons? You want some more Ghost?

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>"Crossbones was already a killer. He's not going back out with the Thunderbolts."

So, at least they learned.

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>>90366596
A spook is always good with me.

>>90366540
I can't help but notice that they gloss over the "Fight Club" era of the Thunderbolts.

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Wait, did Karla always have her Thunderbolts symbol there?

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So, what was good yesterday, Anons? All I read was Flinstones.

>>90366619
So what would happen to Crossbones now if he was exposed to the Terrigen Mists?

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Unlike Harley Quinn, who's backstory as a psychologist has nothing to do with her current actions, Karla FREQUENTLY uses her experience in the field to manipulate her enemies, which just as often happens to be her teammates.

>>90366672
Batman's I am Bane arc.
I also enjoyed Avengers, they gathered a bunch of members throughout history to fight Kang.

>>90366672
Moon Knight

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>>90366633
Well, neither of them were involved with Fightbolts, so it makes sense the in-character history wouldn't mention that.

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>>90366674
Honestly, that'd make an interesting Captain America arc, or maybe an Inhumans arc, him trying to regain these powers again.

>>90366672
>Because there are
Tell me about it. Hydra, SHIELD, AIM, the Secret Empire, Roxxon, the Kingpin, Osborn, the Shadow Council, Skrulls, Mutants psychics, LMDs, Demons, Gods, clones...
I'd be a paranoid lunatic that sees conspiraces everywhere too.

>>90366672
America #1 yassss Queen.

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>>90366713
Honestly, the only Moon Knight I've read was the Ellis run, which I'm told isn't a good introduction. I'll have to start that.

>>90366749
Might not be the best idea now since Red Skull wants to genocide the mutants AND the Inhumans.

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>>90366525
Wait, they don't? What, is he an X-Man character?

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>>90366775
Is it as bad as I hear?

>>90366749
I'm pretty sure that basically revealing what company he worked for by giving the names of the people in charge of it would make it easy for Karla to find out who he is given time.

>>90366829
Yes Really. Using outdated spanish slangs.

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>>90366830
Just... just wait and see, Anon.

>>90366805
Henry Peter Gyrich was in the first X-Men movie. He was Senator Kelly's assistant that was replaced by Mystique.
Odds are, because of Gyrich's involvement in several mutant books during the 80s, he was included with the X-Men rights.

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Well, I guess now we know why Ghost listens to Moonstone, of all people.

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>>90366852
The big thing I heard was "fictional revolutionaries".

>>90366829
>The company's entire future depended on ONE guy, because nobody else could possibly do the same thing
IT guys wish this were the case, the reality is that they're easily replaceable.

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>>90366874
It's been so long since I saw the first movie, I didn't remember that was him.

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So, bummer for Ghost.

>>90366917
I did not cared about the politics but the dialogue was really cringe worthy. holy menstruation
Line

>>90366672
Shade wrapped up first arc with one hell of a development

>>90366966
>And in some cases, video
Why the hell would anyone record this?

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>>90366931
On the other hand, I doubt they wish they were THIS important.

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So yeah, that's how Ghost became a supervillain.

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Is it weird I like Ghost's look with the sheet?

>>90366989
Man, that killer works fast.

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>>90366980
I can only assume we're what we saw there was just him putting the data together, because otherwise they're the dumbest geniuses I've ever heard of.

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>>90366968
Wait, that really happened? Fuck, I thought that was a bad edit/

>>90366672
Haven't read anything yet. Hoping Crime Destroyer is good.

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>>90366970
Damn, I can't believe I forgot about Shade!

>>90367071

It's not an edit. It's honest to god in the book.

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So yeah, going by Karla's reaction here, as well as the third panel, it doesn't look like Ghost cares if Karla COULD find out his backstory.

When's Satana?

>>90367091
Did Ghost destroy the paper trail too?
And even then, Karla could always just ASK people that worked for Omnisapient what his name was, they'd still remember.

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Well shit, look who's here.

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Sadly, this isn't the only time we'll have to deal with Land.

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Well, Karla cuts right to the chase.

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>>90367071
Sorry for posting a image.

>>90367138
Why isn't he chained to an energy-draining bondage chair or something? What's stopping him from punching and flying out?

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I'll probably run the Blue Marvel series at some point, before we get to Mighty Avengers, since Blue Marvel is such a big deal in Ewing's books.

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>>90367108
God, it sucks being a Marvel fan sometimes.

>>90367210
If I'm not mistaken, both the Leader and MODOK, now depowered, were prisoners in the Raft at this point.

>>90367138
Oh shit, Injustice Superman!

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If you know Fixer AT ALL, you can probably guess who's on the other line. I don't remember if he appears in this run, of if this is just some set-up for Brubaker.

>>90367261
I think that him working with Zemo was shown in Brubaker's Cap first.

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Speaking of giant monsters, is Monsters Unleashed any good?

>>90367210
Both minis or just the first one?

>>90367297
It focuses too much on the human characters.

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In case you're new to Marvel, and can't tell by now, Hyperion is basically Superman. If you want to know what his powers are... like I said, he's Superman.

>>90367297
It's just mindless fun. Heroes fighting monsters and monsters fighting other monsters, nothing particularly ground-breaking but it beats most recent Marvel events.

>>90367261

He appears during Fear Itself, I think. The way Parker handled him during the time travel arc later on always made me wonder if he didn't plan to eventually bring Zemo to the team, too.

>>90367322
Hickman Hyperion that is pals with Thor until he began to run with a bad crowd is best Hyperion.

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>>90367246
Hey now, let's not be unfair. This could be regular Superman. There's just as many Good Hyperions as Evil ones.

>>90367297
Where the hell are Sunfire and Big Hero 6? This is their turf, they shouldn't be relying on American superheroes to save their asses.

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>>90367185
I genuinely thought that was a joke when I saw that in the catalog!

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So I guess this thing's packing Atomic Breath?

>>90367091
I storytimed it yesterday, so it is in the archive, but I missed a page (oops) so be sure to look for that at the end of the thread. It's funny, I even commented specifically on that page, but must have selected the wrong one

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>>90367326
As long as it delivers what it promised, and it sounds like it does.

>>90367370
>I genuinely thought that was a joke when I saw that in the catalog!
I wish.

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>"Wonder why Cage thought of me first when it came to irritating something? I admit, it does come easy."

>>90367297
It's a pity that Crossbones isn't here to help out. His guns would have been really useful.

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>>90367301
I only knew of the one by Grevioux. There's a second one?

>>90366020
> I don't need a gun anymore, I AM a gun!

masterful prose from Parker.

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>"Okay Luke, what's the plan?"
>"Hit it a lot."

Luke, that's the kind of shit plan I'd expect from Danny.

>>90367456
Never mind, there's only one. The fight against Hyperion was in the "Age of Heroes" anthology series, for some reason I misremembered and thought it was a separate mini.

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Last thread, someone posted this exact page as an example of Songbird power creep.

>>90367322
So this is clearly Parker writing his "Superman joins the Thunderbolts" fanfic, right? At least until the reveal that is

>>90367369
Same reason why the British superheroes don't show up when London gets invaded. Writer doesn't want to use them for that role.

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Damn it Karla, learn to shut up once in a while.

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>>90367464
It's Crossbones, he's kind of an idiot.

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>>90367369
I'd say they're playing defense in case the Kaiju get to shore, but they clearly aren't.

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>>90367511
I thought it was because Marvel doesn't know about British superheroes?

Seriously, I will never forget the time Bendis has IRON MAN, of all people talk shit about Captain Britian. Braddock would rip Stark apart.

>>90367511
I'm just saying, the writers could just have the events take place in a country that doesn't have any established heroes. Like how Death of X had a long sequence in Spain.

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>>90367342
Oh, by FAR.

>>90367592
Otherworld bullshit isn't something Iron Man would care about.

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>>90367506
Yeah, that reveal is a big deal, X-Anon

>>90367592
Now, in Bendis' defense... no, you know what? I'm not going to say it. Fuck Bendis.

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Last issue for today, Anons!

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No lewding Troll,

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>>90367648
Yeah, it's one thing for ME to defend Bendis, I'm reading his better shit. You've got his X-Men, and a bit of his Guardians to do.

Although, if you're lucky, maybe by the time you get to his X-Men, Editanon will be finished, and you can just post HIS X-Men instead.

>>90367686
Why not?

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So yeah, this Hyperion? Not just evil, he's also a bit of an asshole too.

>>90367711
>These presumably superhuman criminals are afraid of Walker even though he's a cripple in a wheelchair
Badass

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I haven't read Exiles, has King Hyperion always been British?

>>90366235
Aww, poor Frog. He didn't deserve to die like that.

>>90367758
This is probably not the same King Hyperion as the one from Exiles. Most Hyperions are aliens raised by American farmers, just like Superman.

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>>90367728
Well for starters, she can bite down hard enough to draw blood on THOR, and she has a taste for human flesh.

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>>90367754
They heard what he did during the Blackout, Anon. He'll kick your ass even with one arm and one leg.

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So, think they finally put one of them down?

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Okay, going by that smile, Ghost is enjoying having to give CPR to Melissa and Karla.

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"Argonite" is basically Kryptonite, in case it wasn't obvious.

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Well shit, the city's fucked.

>>90367893
It's Japan, they're used to it, they all have Kaiju insurance.

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>talk about nasty breath
>sudden cut back to Ghost's lips on Karla's.

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>>90367784
I haven't read Exiles yet, so I don't know the deal with King Hyperion, but either way, "don't give a toss" isn't the kind of thing you'd expect a farmboy to say, unless he grew up with a lot of British TV.

>>90367848
Major Ragdoll vibes from that last few panels

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Mongoloid is an insult I don't hear often enough.

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So, is this a trick that the X-Men ever tried?

>>90367968
Because it is basically calling the person "Chink"

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>"But he's one of us."

>>90367990
Nope, because this only works when Juggernaut has been severely depowered like he is now. When he's at full-strength there's no way you're breaking Marko's leg.

>>90367784
According to wiki, it is the same one from Exiles.

>>90367939
He probably picked up the lingo when he became GOD-EMPEROR OF THE WORLD™, y'know, to sound more dignified and all.

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>>90367912
I guess that's why Japan's heroes aren't getting involved.

>>90368011

That works a lot better here than it did in Buckybolts.

>>90366596
> that luke face

I know a Land cover when I see it.

>>90368011
Plus, Marko did save Melissa and Karla's asses out of the goodness of his heart.

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Don't you hate it when your banter gets interrupted?

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>>90367993
Really? Damn it, that was one of my favorite insults.

>>90368011
That symbol really is looking like a tramp stamp

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>Moonstone and Juggernaught get bodied
>Ghost just activates the nanites

>>90368109
Yeah, why is it place on top of her ass of all places?

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>>90368043
Probably because they aren't talking about the leader, but one of the other guys.

>>90368135
It gives her more power that way

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>>90368049
Here's the thing, Anon. He didn't even mention it.

>>90368155
I feel like I've read this kind of justification before, I just can't place where

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And on that ominous note, we're done for today. See you tomorrow, when the Thunderbolts get their team wizard. Be sure to check the catalog for the return of the Great X-Men Storytime, as well as an Anon going through some classic Iron Fist, in case you weren't here when we did it.
Or maybe you were, and just want a refresher.

Either way, see you Anons tomorrow.

>>90368193
Does anyone else remember? I'd be interested.

>>90366829
It was more confusing than anything else. Unlike past books like Avengers Arena it just feels like people are forcing themselves to be outraged about the book.

>>90368200
Aw shucks, thanks for the plug again, broseph.

>>90368155
Is that because it's at the base of her spine

>>90368200
I was really having fun. What time tomorrow anon

>>90368367
Hopefully at Noon. Today I just overslept.

>>90368296
Any time, as long as we're all storytiming, may as well make sure people know.

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>>90367021
>"Ghost isn't my code name Mr. Cage. It's what I am."

>>90368257
Shit, it might be from John's Teen Titans. I think Raven got a tattoo that looks like a tramp stamp

>>90368432
Yeah, but that was just "to express herself", it didn't make her stronger.

>>90366145

Juggs has a brain, Parker is one of the few that gave him some serious character depth.

>>90366944
Oh no, this is "Seward Trainer hacks into the Internet" all over again.

>>90369482

Except this is more focused on finding a specific set of information across many sources, versus some magical brute attack against the entire internet.

>>90365963
He probably just despises Stark as a person and clings onto his corporation hard on to justify his irrational hatred.

>>90370736

Considering he let stark go once he found out he gave up his globalist agenda of corruption, and his morality is specific to how he died.

>>90365591
>"fucking nigger"

>>90366145
Based Juggs.

>>90366235
What the fuck? Why killing the frog?

>>90371774

Symbolism, life is unfair.

>>90365076
Makes sense.
Letting convicts loose willy nilly is how you end up with Norman Osborn running HAMMER.

>>90365179
>The point I'm getting at is that Ghost has a morality that doesn't quite fit in with normal people, but is consistent in and of itself.

Well, yeah. This characterization of the Ghost is a true Anarchist, out to destroy Corporations and the State for interfering with natural human freedom.

>>90367261
Why is Fixer so gay for Zemo?

>>90365287
Well, there's a degree to which her situation is ENTIRELY his fault, because this cycle of the Asgard story was built on his Odinforce.

>>90367848
>Cuck-Thing
Or maybe

>>90366145
>Moonstone
>Jennifer Kale
>Mockingbird

The Gentleman-Thing prefers blondes.

>>90366359
I think Hawkeye and Mockingbird was running concurrently to this series, and that was pretty respectful to Hawkeye (albeit set in a spy setting that had him off his game a bit)

>>90367138
And here's where you ask "Wait, which one?" I'm assuming Newbolts era Sinister Microverse Hyperion?

>>90367159
Two covers in a row of a black pornstar nutting.
Land is disgraceful.

>>90367369
Well, by this point Sunfire had been off the team for years, having lost his powers, gotten them back through Apocalypse, and I think had his legs cut off.

Scott Lodbell replaced him with a Honey Lemon purse summoned version of Sunpyre and Silver Samurai with Ebon Samurai in Alpha Flight vol. 3, but I think they were both gone by now too, replaced by Wasabi no Ginger and Fred in a Big Hero 6 miniseries.

>>90367504
Making a bridge capable of holding up Juggy, who's maybe like 800 pounds at the heaviest, isn't that much harder than the flight decks and such she usually does.

>>90372986
Did you see the cover of Born Better? Helmut's got one hell of an ass.

>>90367592
>I thought it was because Marvel doesn't know about British superheroes?

They used to. But then the decided Editors were a stupid idea.

>>90368126
Suffer, you dick!

>>90367734
A bit of an asshole?

He wiped out the populations of like three different Earths!

>>90367754
Well, Walker is superhuman himself.

Unlike Steve, Walker's always been a multi-ton powerhouse.

>>90367824
They shoulda gotten Thor to loan them Heimdall for this little jaunt.

>>90376022
That's evil. But you can be evil and NOT be an asshole about it, you know?

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>>90377389
I hope Shalvey returns to doing more work for Marvel beyond covers someday, his character designs are great.

i like this ghost guy

>>90380425
Ghost is basically the best character on this book.

>>90367848
I'm loving this.

>>90384199
Nice

>>90364962
Juggerbump

>>90365591
Its worked on Alligators. Nice thing about Animals though, when something spooks them, they generally get the fuck away.

>>90366118
No, but he's offbeat enough to be from it. I mean, if Howard the Duck first premiered in it...

>>90366980
It's a CYA blackmail. They try to fire the person recording, (s)he's got information that will fucking RUIN them.

>>90367990
It's a trick that requires strength that no X-Men has.

>>90394710
That's true, not even Colossus.

>>90388603