Why Wolverine won't wear his iconic costume in LOGAN

It would look like complete shit and like Mangold said it wouldn't fit at all with the Jackman characterization.

The only time they maybe could have pulled it off is the opening future sequence in Days of Future Past if they could make it look like some kind of body armor that served a purpse.

>>90107312
So, he doesn't understand superheroes? I mean, the whole point of the costumes was both: To have people recognize that mutants were helping them and build good rep for the group who a lot of people hate, and to keep the real identity of the mutant a secret from those who would hurt them.

How can he be so ignorant of the tropes of the genre?

>>90107312
You know he's right.

At this point, they're just being consistent with the film's universe. Nobody else really wears a specific uniform (except for the AoA mutants and Deadpool). It would be weird for Wolverine to just randomly show up in a costume NOW.
Fox fucked it all up in Fox 1, but at least they committed to that fuckup.

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>>90107312
That's a really cynical way of looking at things, and frankly, it's never made much sense to me at all. I mean, sure, if you want to be "realistic" and psychoanalize these characters, then sure, the idea of wearing an iconic costume and having a well-known codename could be seen as narcissistic, but honestly, who fucking cares? You want to know the real reason superheroes wear costumes, the real, honest-to-God reason? It's because Siegel and Shuster were inspired by circus strongmen, then the colors came because during the printing process red, blue and yellow would stand out more. That's literally it, the colorful costumes are just there to appeal to children, there's no deep-seated psychological issues behind them or whatever. Stop being a pretentious oaf.

Also, brown and yellow > blue and yellow

>>90107432
>To have people recognize that mutants were helping them and build good rep for the group who a lot of people hate, and to keep the real identity of the mutant a secret from those who would hurt them.

The Jackman Wolverine is interested in neither of these and is even less itnerested in looking like a big banana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BXP5XAkPt4

>>90107492
>Nobody else really wears a specific uniform
Iron Man
Spider Man
Deadpool
Hulk
Ant Man

What is this, the seventh movie with Wolverine in it? And in all those movies he has never worn the costume before. Audiences have never seen Hugh Jackman in the yellow get-up before, and you want to put him in it in this one? Of all his movies, you want him in spandex for this story?

It's ridiculous and you know it.

>>90107557
In the FoX-men universe, dipshit.

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As someone who's never liked Wolverines costume, and finds it not only silly looking, but completely out of Logan's entire characterization... good. There's no way it can ever really look like something Logan would want to wear and its also very impractical. The colour scheme basically makes him a walking target and what the hell are those things on his head anyways? Ears? Headbands? They look so unnecessary and real wolverines don't even look like that. I'm always shaking my head whenever fans always bitch and moan about the movies never having the costume, and they bend over backwards to justify it not only being in the plot, but also it not being stupid and goofy looking "With a few adjustments."

It. Just. Doesn't. Work!

>>90107557
>with the film's universe

Only Deadpool is in the X-men's movie universe.

>>90107573
Fantastic 4

>>90107444
Actually he is completely and tottaly wrong.
Wolverine used the costume because it was something that allowed him to be part of something greater. To find a persona for himself instead of being just a slab of meat following orders.

If anything, following this logic of a character needing a personal reason to wear a costume, Wolverine is one of the few where it makes sense for him to do so. In partircular as part of the X-men.

In a solo movie with a older Wolvie, it's unnecessary baggage, but the claim was the author not getting it. He is wrong, even if his actions work.

I really do miss this costume. If Logan was alive in current comics, Im sure he'd be sporting the jacket as always. It doesnt really work for X23 in my opinion either. Is it doomed to fade away forever /co/?

>director that doesn't read comics tries to psychoanalyze a comic book character

This movie is gonna be botched to shit.

>>90107598
They got erased when Days of Future Past happened

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>>90107608
>Wolverine used the costume because it was something that allowed him to be part of something greater. To find a persona for himself instead of being just a slab of meat following orders.

Source? He wears the costume in his first appearance where he's just a slab of meat following orders.

I really hate to parrot the "give the rights back to Marvel!" meme but at least over at the MCU he'd wear an actual costume instead of the black leather shit FOX is known for. Actually come to think of it, just fork over Logan and have FOX keep the rest of the Mutants, theyre going to be using X23 from now on anyway. Logan's origin has enough wiggle room to integrate him in another universe, they just cant call him a mutant like with Wanda

>>90107756

Why is wearing the costume more important to you than making a good movie?

Outside of Apoc, Singer's X movies are better than anything MCU has produced and apparently Logan is a contender for GOAT

>>90107847
>Singer's X movies are better than anything MCU has produced
Pump the breaks there, sporto.

>>90107312
Good.
1. That costume is trash and looks ridiculous even by capeshit standards
2. Nothing about it would fit Logan's characterization or the tone if the movie.

>>90107847
Whoa there anon, lets be honest, the majority of the X Men movies are passable at best (mostly because they all feel like the same fucking movie and barely anything progresses). And of course a good story is far more important than a costume, dont put words in my mouth.

>>90107904
>He doesnt like Logan's costume
Shit taste anon

>>90107904
>That costume is trash and looks ridiculous even by capeshit standards
Fuck off /tv/. Spider-man's costume is 10x more ridiculous than any of the X-men yet it's able to be adapted properly.

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>>90107867

MCU is fine for the spectacle of costumes and CGI robot fights and humor but in terms of quality of writing, performances, characters, etc. they have yet to produce anything on the level of a simple scene like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkRyP8bp0Io

>>90107608
Actually he's right

>>90107975
Running around in bright yellow is inherently more ridiculous than anything spider-man has ever worn.
And besides that Logan, not this one certainly, has no business running around in spandex.
>/tv/
Nigga please

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>>90107376
>tacticool shit

Thinking like a uncreative jew executive, good goy!

Guys, come on. Not every drawing translates well to "real life." Especially when one of biggest hurdles cape movies have to overcome is convincing the audience to suspend their disbelief.

If you have any real experience with either medium you ought to be able to grasp this.

>>90108185

Deadpool is not even close to tacticool and is brightly colored with comic eyes.

Eat my dick.

>>90107499
why did you stop the storytimes ?

>>90108203
Deadpool is a totally/tonally different character from Wolverine.

>>90108143
Deadpool original costume is pretty taticool.

>>90108100
>Running around in bright yellow is inherently more ridiculous than anything spider-man has ever worn.
No it's not retard. Really think about what you're saying. A red and blue bodysuit with black webbing all over it and big white cartoon eyes is not less weird than yellow spandex. You like to fuck little boys like Singer does, faggot?

>Nigga please
>>>/tv/

>>90108203
You see there are differences between making a Deadpool movie and a Wolverine movie
>an insane person running around in brightly colored spandex
Not exactly hard to grasp anon. .

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>>90107312
If people are worried about the yellow they could have just used the brown and tan scheme.

>>90107432
>So, he doesn't understand superheroes?


The point is that their movie Wolverine isn't exactly going around looking for places to be a super hero. He mostly wants to be left alone.

he shouldn't wear the costume in Logan. it doesn't fit the tone of the movie at all.

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>>90108232

>>90108004
>characters
Only if you like Xavier, Magneto, Wolverine, and [Mystique]. I bracket her name because she's basically not even Mystique in those films. Hopefully JLaw leaves the franchise.

Like, that's a good scene and all, but I don't think even the other X-films have been able to replicate or one up it. And most other cape films don't have the luxury of having Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart doing one on ones.

>>90108237
Spider-man is also, you know, an actual superhero not an angry homeless man running in the forest killing soldiers. A superhero costume fits one of those two scenarios.

>>90108203
>>90108230
>>90108251
Not to mention Deadpool's outfit is actually pretty standard, it's just a jumpsuit with a balaclava.

The design of Wolverine's outfit is far more impractical despite him ostensibly being a much more practical character.

This is a dumb thread, please have sex OP and get a clue

>>90108185
Any costume can "translate" to film just fine if they combine the right costume designers, right film techniques, and just have the people in-universe take themselves seriously.

Seriously I can't even tell how many times I've heard "[x] costume just doesn't work in real life" only for them to be proven wrong later. Deadpool is still the best example. People even said Iron Man wouldn't work once upon a time, though that seems crazy now because of just how well they pulled it off in that movie.

The problem is audiences who REFUSE to accept the people in the costumes not being silly. Maybe it's just because I've grown up with superhero costumes but I've never found them to be inherently silly like everyone says. TDKR is a very serious story that involves an old man in a Halloween costume with blue underpants but never did I find that to lessen my suspension of disbelief. Even Watchmen managed to not crack jokes about the costumes or take them lightly.

In my eyes, superheroes just wear costumes. Why? I don't really care, they just do. I guess that's the problem with movies, they have to appeal to people who don't have that ingrained belief.

>>90108266
The movie with people with ridiculous superpowers like metal claws and telekinesis.

Yet somehow costumes would make that goofy, implying it isn't already.

>>90108331
>The problem is audiences who REFUSE to accept the people in the costumes not being silly.
That's because it is completely fucking silly.

>>90108331
In defense of the Iron-man statement, can you imagine how ridiculous he would have looked if he had the sculpted abs and rollerskates?
It was a fantastic adaptation, don't get me wrong, but it could have been terrible in the wrong hands.

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>>90108323
Would you faggots stop harping about what's "practical" in these stories about people fighting crime in pajamas

>>90108347
>fantastical elements means its already goofy
Don't be stupid.

>>90107312
If the movies taking inspiration from the Old Man Logan comics, why even bring up the costume?

>>90107432
But Wolverine wouldn't do that. He doesn't give a shit about being recognized and he doesn't give a shit about good rep. He's the best at what he does and he never needed a suit to advertise it.

With that said, a good writer would have made up some type of reason for him to wear the suit anyway. B/c muh-muh fanboys

>>90108406
Yes, that's exactly what it means, you idiot.

Ironic that costumes is the thing that goes "too far" in these movies with fantastical elements.

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>>90108363
But I don't get how it's any sillier than anything else in an action movie. You have people jumping around shooting guns, you usually have soldiers in tight rubber armor that would never function correctly in real life, all kinds of sci-fi elements, robots that don't make any sense, it's all silly if you try to apply it to real life. I don't understand how the costumes are the breaking point for most people.

>>90108383
Even back when they were long past that stage people were saying it was going to look retarded, just the red and gold looked too silly. Even the Extremis armor before the movie armor was shown people said wouldn't work in real life.

>>90108407
It's brought up because it's still unknown whether Logan is that last time we see Jackman as Wolverine or not.

>>90108462
The thing is that the costumes must make sense in universe and have a reason for why the character choose to dress like that.

>>90108331
>In my eyes, superheroes just wear costumes. Why? I don't really care, they just do. I guess that's the problem with movies, they have to appeal to people who don't have that ingrained belief

I guess. I don't care for tacticool/practicool in the comics (unless that's like the point of a particular comic or character I guess) but I accept that they tend to avoid them in the movies. And I guess I'm okay with that, cause the first exposure I had to "super heroes" were the stories of the Greek heroes that my dad used to tell me before bed. Those guys had similar powers and performed similar feats to superheroes, but they didn't wear costumes. They just dressed in the manner that was appropriate.

So Deadpool gets a costume, awesome! Worked out really well for the movie they made. Wolverine is a little harder to sell on that front? Well, I guess I can understand that, especially given the history and audience that the movie version has built for the last 17 years.

It's just not a big deal to me. I still draw the characters in costume anyway and how I view these characters is way more important to me than how others view them. But their opinions are just as valid of course.

That said, it's weird to me how the self-professed comic fans are the ones that make the biggest stink about the movies. If you love the comics so much, why aren't they enough? Why do they have to be validated by a movie? And in a way that doesn't fit the medium of film, but only serves as a slavish recreation of what comics are already good at doing? I don't get the triggering and I haven't for the last 17 years since the yellow spandex joke.

>>90108476
I was obviously being facetious with the rollerskates, but turning him into a jet with less saturated colors really did wonders for him.

>>90108401
It depends entirely on the tone and the characters involved. If the movie fails to get the audience to suspend their belief/take it seriously it fails a big part of making a story work.

>>90108462
>Yes, that's exactly what it means, you idiot.
No. No it doesn't you moron. "Goofiness" has entirely to do with tone and tone has nothing to do with how much fantasy is involved.

>>90108401
Batman's outfit hasn't been plain spandex in years. It borders between body armor and infiltration suit now

>>90108446
That was the whole point, Wolverine didn't go around in costume just so he could be recognized. That's the whole fucking point, he helped his kind without getting credit. It's his own fault he can't grow his hair like a normal person.

Spiderman goes around and gets credit for helping people, but nobody knows who he is. Unless Slott or some other shitty writer is writing him.

>>90108569
I see the IM costume more like a Ferrari.

>>90108566

How is this a counter-argument to the lack of vision in translating a comic property by blaming the myopic-ness of the consumer instead of the creator?

The other anon isn't wrong because the movie creator has a prejudice against cape traits being translated into film. Considering the wide array of negative opinions in hollywood about superheros in general getting in the way of them getting to play make believe the way they want some how becomes the fan's fault?

Even your counter stinks of this. It is the short-sighted-ness of the director for not being able to translate a vision.

Mortal Kombat by Anderson is a perfect example of this when it shouldn't have been taken seriously, it is still one of the best video game to film adaptations to exist.

And that has decades of history showing how badly video game to films can go. Even this year with Assassin's Creed.

the creator vision and insecurity is the problem, not the source material.

>>90108659
The costume helped him find an identity other than just a killer. It also made him part of a team.

>>90108659
Logan doesn't need a secrect identity though. Nor is he going around helping people.

>>90108406
No, goofy elements make it goofy. Which superheroes are all about.

>>90108659
This Wolverine wants to be left alone tho.

Didn't you saw when he said Mags and Xavier to fuck off? Or all the times that he left the team after the movie finished?

>>90108710
It ain't the bronze age anymore grandpa. And not in this movie clearly.

>>90107312
i have the bigger problem of no fucking hawkeye n logans radical adventure across the US

fucking fox ruined EVERYTHING
infinity gauntlet is gonna suck too

Do people not realize that wearing a bright yellow suit when you're on the run is not a good idea?

>>90108710
>goofy elements make it goofy.


So Edgar Alan Poeis goofy because some of his stories have magic?

To everyone saying the costume could work in live action with some tweaks what tweaks do you have in mind? The costume won't work for Logan since the only X-Men left are him and Xavier, there are no X-Men anymore so it wouldn't make since to wear a uniform.
Also anyone have concept art from the first movie where they tried the mask?

>>90108741

>Shoving border and refugee politics into a dystopian world, converting a comic property into their political vehicle is the hip new thing to do.

>>90108741
I blame MCU and its campiness. Its poisoned the well for comic movies

look it's not rocket surgery, he wears it when he's in active missions with the x-men so everyone knows who the good guys are at a glance. on his own, he wears the fur-lined jacket. that's how it has always worked

>>90108742
This isn't Old Man Logan.
This is just a story about an older Logan.

>>90108741
>it ain't the Bronze Age anymore
That explains why comics suck nowadays

>>90108771

Remender's x-force is literally an easy to do tactical to film transition since the red eyes could be used as built in eye goggles in the mask.

>>90108771
Throwing it in a shredder might help.

>>90108774
Comics have been political since their inception and political comics existed for hundreds of years before Superman ever became a thing

>>90108815

No I'm explaining you the real reason why they wanted the movie down to earth and gritty and it had nothing to do with wolverine being a cape property.

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>>90108657
>Batman's outfit hasn't been plain spandex in years.
Reading comics sure is hard, huh.

>inb4 your sophist response and mention BatGordon

>>90108774
The X-Men have always been [insert minority here] comics. Where have you been?

>>90108771
I don't think anyone here is saying that Logan should be wearing a costume in this film.
But he should have been wearing one for the last few films, and not the leather suits or the paintball gear.

>>90108791
thats what i thought this movie was fucking adapting!

god dammit!

>>90107312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BXP5XAkPt4

Costumes are dumb.

I'm just going to point out that the REALISTIC COSTUME mentality is exactly what gave us POUCHES and that we will look back at what we're getting from this decade's REALISM as completely ridiculous in a few more years.

>>90108670
I'm not trying to counter you anon, I'm just expanding on my opinion because you seemed to have already reached a conclusion yourself.

>I guess that's the problem with movies, they have to appeal to people who don't have that ingrained belief

Well, yeah, that's just it isn't? Movies are made not for comic fans but for general audiences who may be receptive of certain ideas and themes in the comics, but are unable to jive with others. Sure they try to throw us a bone now and then, but ultimately setting out to make a movie just for us would, 9/10 times, preclude said movie even being greenlit in the first place. At least with the kind of scale and budget these movies have.

>Mortal Kombat by Anderson is a perfect example of this when it shouldn't have been taken seriously, it is still one of the best video game to film adaptations to exist

And how memorable and successful is the Mortal Kombat movie compared to X-Men? How many sequels has it spawned? And even then, I know plenty of Mortal Kombat fans who were still disappointed in the way that characters like Sub-Zero and Scorpion were translated.

Anyway, you said it yourself: These movies are not just for us. I was only saying that I find ways to enjoy them in spite of this because to me costumes are not the only thing that makes a hero. I can enjoy the various disparate takes found in the comics and the cartoons and the video games and the movies without feeling like they conflict or contradict one another.

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>>90108908
They used the concept of old, busted Logan and slapped a new plot onto it.
Like most comic movies nowadays with their comic counterparts.

>>90108887

Amazing how singer got away with doing a bunch of movies and had little pro-gay propaganda in it. Obviously the comics are built for wrong audience since I doubt a bunch of straight dudes want to read about plights of people that they don't give a shit about or maybe that's just me.

Art has always been an allegory for something else, doesn't mean they're defended from criticism for it.

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>>90108776
Totes anon. Campiness is something that was unique to the MCU and isn't something that hasn't been in superhero adaptions since the beginning due to the source material being campy.

Will you /tv/ faggots fuck off already?

>>90107566
It's the last one, and as you've said, he's never worn it before.
It's not that they want it in THIS one, so much as they want it, and this is the last chance.

>>90108747
No, it's not, because fantasy does not equal goofy.
Magic is not goofy. A witch cursing a man or a monkey paw that may or may not grant wishes is not goofy.
A giant floating head wanting to dominate the world but being punched in the face by some radiation-poisoned nerd dressed like a spider is goofy. Giant man-hunting robots being lead by an even bigger robot in a factory vs. a walking snowman is goofy. A Russian man made of steel being trapped in an amusement park rigged as an assassination chamber and being thrown into a giant pinball machine is real fucking goofy.

>>90108970
>Like most comic movies nowadays
>nowadays

Comic book movies have always done this. Find me one comic book movie that is a direct adaptation of a particular run or story. Even Watchmen changed the squid.

Why do people still expect something that they have never actually gotten?

>>90108987
>Obviously the comics are built for wrong audience since I doubt a bunch of straight dudes want to read about plights of people that they don't give a shit about or maybe that's just me.

It's obviously just you tumblr, since X-Men is incredibly popular.

>>90107499
>Also, brown and yellow > blue and yellow

here's your (You)

>>90109044
Are you serious. Blue and yellow is a fucking eyesore. I don't know what color wheel they were looking at when they thought of it but it needs to be thrown in the garbage. Just like that costume.

>>90108950

I actually agree with you on most points, especially knowing Suits won't greenlight projects because they come from the land of 'no'

and you're right that each new movie verse can be treated as a niche to be enjoyed on it's merits.

I think my opinion is tied up in the wanting, not necessarily for myself but since the very first movie back in 2000, they(fans of wolverine) wanted a suited up wolvie, and I guess my negative reaction is tied up in knowing how many of them are probably out there and a little fanservice never killed an artistic vision to give a huge swath of people something they want.

>>90109032
Sin City is GOAT adaptation now and forever

I agree with him. Doesn't fit the tone and the aesthetic of the X-MEN movies. And honestly it's a pretty lame costume.

>>90109033

He is conflating social allegories with the X-men, anon, that would make the X-men = tumblr, not me.

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>>90109032
> Find me one comic book movie that is a direct adaptation of a particular run or story.

>>90107312
>who puts a special branded outfit on when they do good deeds?

policemen, doctors and nurses, firemen, astronauts, soldiers, the clergy, salvation army bell ringers and Arby's cashiers all do this

>>90109159

>"Welcome to Arby's, bub, would you like a large fries and drink with that?"

>>90109131
>>90109148
Damn, you got me there. Exception that proves the rule I guess.

>>90109159
>one particular policeman in New York wear's a form fitting bright green outfit because he's special.

>>90109145
>Doesn't fit the tone and the aesthetic of the X-MEN movies
The X-Men movies are fucking garbage outside of First Class and Deadpool so I guess you're right.

> And honestly it's a pretty lame costume.
Costume = lame
knuckle swords as a power = not lame
I love you retards.

>>90109211
The mutants all wore blue and yellow, it wasn't just wolverine.

>>90109227
>knuckle swords as a power = not lame
Nah it's kinda lame.

>>90109227
>First Class
I'll never understand /co/'s love affair for this movie.

>>90109343

literally the only good X movie

the singer movies have aged very badly

>>90109111
No worries anon, I hear you and I get the wanting. My dream live-action project is a shot-for-shot adaptation of Marvels, one episode per issue. But until technology can convincingly recreate the aesthetic on a modest budget, or people suddenly warm up to the idea of campy retro superhero movies/shows told from the perspective of the civilian, I have to accept that it will remain a comic. And while that's disheartening, I can ultimately live it with it cause MAN, it is a great fucking comic! I actually found 4/5 of the original single issues at my local con a few weeks ago but had to pass since I didn't have the cash...

Anyway, I for one wish Marvel would put more effort into their animation. Cause you can get away with all the tropes and trappings in animation that you can't in movies. Network kiddie shows aside, some lavish OVAs based on famous comic storylines would be welcome. And you know Disney's got the cash for it.

>>90109368
Are you sure you're not thinking about just segments of the film?
Because there are so many awful parts of that movie.
All of Emma's scenes are practically unwatchable. THEY WERE ONLY FOLLOWING ORDERS, ERIC! Angel's entire existence. Kevin Bacon.
The only good parts of the film were Magneto and Xavier, and that's mostly due to the actors.

>>90109456

anon, adapt to this.

>>90109511
For real though, why didn't he?

>>90109431

So are we talking like a Lucas level, industry push in terms of effects and believable world building because he even said the industry was still about ten to fifteen years behind where he thought a believable star wars world could be built for modest, television show budget and I would have to assume a Marvel show at that level would be something similar. So I suppose we still have to wait for awhile.

Though I'll hopefully still be writing then. That would be a fun pitch.

>>90109521

He was only a special snowflake, on the outside. And you know kevin bacon, kevin bacon'd. What he should have done was offer him an investment deal and then steal his life savings.

so is this in the xmen universe that fox set up or something separate? for logan to be old or older would be like a good nother 20-40 years into the future since he ages slow, right?

>>90107499
>Also, brown and yellow > blue and yellow
10/10
yeah man, i agree

>>90107312
All of this gobbledygook avoids the fact that he has a suit that more orange and brown which isn't as outlandish or that he's even had the X-Force uniform which fits their black leather color palette.


they dont want the suit because they made the bullshit joke about it in x1 and think that set some fucking precedence. And I think Jackman is definitely the main reason for that to be quite honest. He's always wanted these solo movies to be muh-serious-mutant. He took a pay cut to do it R rated, would have preferred a PG movie with a wolverine suit.

As far as I'm concerned we haven't seen wolverine yet, just some asshole named James parading as Logan.

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>>90109189
>"do ya wanna super-snikt that for 40 cents extra?"
>"WELL, DO YA?!?"
>"ALSO TRY OUR JALAPENO CLAW-POPPERS!"

>>90109650

From what I've read, it is in its own microcosm. and since even they can't keep their shit straight, they went with the "Fuck it" route.

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>>90107847
>Outside of Apoc, Singer's X movies are better than anything MCU has produced
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>>90109713

kek

>>90109716
I love it


Feels like the comics in this regard.

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>>90109584
Pretty much. You have to take the classic designs and costumes and make them look utterly REAL. The superpower effects have to be totally believable, Jim Hammond has to look like a man engulfed in flames and not a CGI lava monster with an actor's face. And it's a period piece too, so that complicates things set design further. There's no point in adapting it if you can't make it totally convincing IMO.

Maybe we'll have something in time for the 100th anniversary of the Fantastic Four. Lol.

>>90107581
>what the hell are those things on his head anyways? Ears? Headbands? They look so unnecessary and real wolverines don't even look like that

They're there so Logan's hair doesn't get crushed. Guy puts alot of work into his hair.

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>>90109828

>>90109769
Can't wait for ''The O5: The movie''.

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Can't they just pull Moon Knight's excuse for wearing such a "loud" costume and say he wants you to see him coming? Seems in character to me since Logan is about charging in head first.

Why are comic book children so fucking obsessed with costumes? It's not what makes a movie good you faggots.

Captain America had a comic accurate costume in the montage from First Avengers and it looked ridiculous. There's a reason these studios don't just put them in comic accurate costumes, most of them look fucking retarded in live-action. It's time you realized this and start criticizing./appreciating live-action movies regardless of how well they jerk off the source material. They should be ADAPTATIONS, not 2 hour long fanservice fests so nerds can jerk off in the cinema.

>>90110342
Fuck off Snyder, FOX movies havent even tried to give Logan a decent costume. Everyone expects liberties to be taken, we're just sick of black leather

>>90107499
I argue it's more pragmatic. MCU love or hate it has found clever ways to justify ways to have characters run around in costumes. The nature however of the fox films there just isn't a time or way to justify the suit.

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>>90107557
Iron Man ad antman are specific suits for specific purpose.
Also
>Hulk
>uniform

>>90110541
That's funny because Snyder usually has comic accurate costumes in his movies (I know, I know, muh Superman undies and all that).

I guess Snyder is proof that your movies can still be fucking shit even if the costumes are good.

>>90107608
James is 100% correct love or hate it. Logan's personality would find it completely stupid running around in bright/colorful spandex suits. He's not Peter Parker where he is some wide eye kid seeking fame and recognition while doing what's right. Logan is a get things done best at what I do type which the last thing that persona cares about is a colorful costume.

>>90110606
Its odd that he allows costume designers to create decent costumes for his movies yet he hates having the characters wear them

Reminder that the X-Men were at their most A E S T H E T I C under Morrison.

>>90108401
in fairness we are talking about film universe.

>>90107581

The practical purpose of the yellow blue was he regenned as fast as he bleed. Shoot the meatverse channeling sonuvabitch.

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>>90107312

His answer totally makes sense but at the same time it kind of falls into the "we made Galactus a cloud" argument that cape flicks use when they feel something is too silly for the movie despite the very premise of the characters being silly since they shoot lasers out of their eyes or are made of orange rocks or whatever. It's comic books, just go for it.

>>90107312
Even though Mangold's reasons for avoiding the costume are moronic and steeped in an ignorance of the superhero genre, he does have a point about Logan.

Even in the comics, the only reason I could ever see someone like Wolverine wearing bright yellow and blue spandex is because he's in a comic book superhero setting and everyone's doing it. In terms of characterisation, there's virtually nothing in Wolverine's personality or history that justifies him dressing up in what is, admittedly, one of the most ridiculously garish popular comic book costumes of all time. It offers no tactical advantages, it stands out like a sore thumb and it would just look ridiculous outside of a drawing - especially considering the fact that none of the other X-Men have worn costumes half as bananas in any of the previous movies.

As much as it would be a refreshing bit of fan service to see him don his signature look just once, I can fully accept why it won't happen and would even make an argument that it flat out shouldn't happen.

>>90107608
He wore a costume because he's a superhero and his creators wanted to sell books.

Mangold is right, it just wouldn't make sense for this iteration of Wolverine to want to put on a costume, especially not in this film. There's a way to do the costume on screen, but it really wouldn't fit here.

>>90107312
Christ just say that he doesn't wear it in the Old man Logan comic and let that be it

The more they talk about how it doesn't fit the character the more retarded they look

>>90107312
>What I mean by that is, who puts a special branded outfit on when they do good deeds? And why? The only reason you do it is so you can have some sort of trademarked claim and get credit for what you did
And this is the kind of reasoning for why people think Superman is boring

Not a direct correlation but it's the general mindset

they must have tried the mask. It likely looks shitty (like every live action batman cowl ever, but wider).

>>90109769
>Feels like the comics in this regard

Not at all. 616 has stayed fairly consistent up until Bendis fucking everything up.

>>90110973
>tactical advantages of standing out is to draw fire and scare opponents... sorta what a berserker with unbreakable bones and a healing factor could really add to a team.

Do you think the guy with pitchfork hands should be stealthy?

>>90107756
He hasn't worn blacks leather since X3.

>20 years of this shit whining

Jesus

>>90111483
Yes? Wolverine's always been a hunter and a tracker. When he's not berserker raging into combat, he's sticking to the shadows like a predator and tailing his prey. Not an easy feat when your costume is the same shade of yellow as a banana.

>>90111639
Raging into combat as a yellow damage sponge is a huge part of the character... way more important than pointy hair, and we got that shit. The movies rarely show him as a hunter beyond smelling hidden people. They mainly show him yelling "GO! I will fight the army while you escape!" at supporting characters (the cast), drawing all the attention and stabbing people.

>>90107581
He's the only one of the team who can heal. It'd make more sense that he was the one with the bright colors while everyone wore darker outfits so he'd attract all enemy fire while the rest of the team attacked.

>>90112069
Well in terms of the movieverse, it's more an issue of Logan's character not having a valid excuse to wear the costume. All the other X-Men wear tacticool black outfits, and his characterisation barely lends itself to wearing one of those. I can't think of any reason as to why he'd wear it in this movie especially, where the X-Men are long dead and he's more-or-less abandoned his former identity as the Wolverine.

>>90111051
there is a problem in adapting things directly from one medium to another. novels tend to have long passages of exposition, monologue, and inner character dialog. but, adapting that to movies is dull as shit, and absolute death in video games. character motivations, narrative devices, even plot arcs make perfect sense in the medium they were created in, partly because those mediums have a fanbase that understand and appreciate those elements.

Comic fans like splashy 2 page spreads of heroes in bright colors in hyper-dramatic poses. these things look absolutely ridiculous in real life. don't believe me? look at japanese sentai shows. it looks flat out absurd. Fox is not about to make movie audiences pretend to care about comic book conventions. nevermind being completely impractical and looking like cosplay, there is no logical reason for a serious adult man to wear bright yellow spandex.

if you want to argue that it is a uniform signifying him as a Hero and a mutant, then you wind up with the dark leather outfits from the first movies.

>>90111483
I know it sounds badass and exciting, but there is almost no advantage to making yourself a bigger target and getting into even more fights. you only waste time murdering tons of people and increasing the chance that someone might actually kill you.

Pretty sure Wolverine goes out to accomplish specific tasks, not just to slaughter people.

>>90111537
Future Logan wore it in DOFP

>>90112627
you and I read different eras... cool. I get you now.

>>90107312
...He's right.

Logan should find the idea of running around in yellow spandex ridiculous.

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>>90108228
I needed a break! Especially after the latter part of 2016 where I had to worry about both my exams and running the storytime. Don't worry, it's coming back this March.

>>90109044
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Truth hurts, I guess.

>>90110550
It's not really the lack of costume that annoys me, but Mangold's justification. Like, really, costumes are narcissistic now? Superman is just a narcisist? Yeah, okay.

>>90112778
No he didn't. His outfit was some sort of Kevlar material and it was blue.

>>90107376
What people don't get is it IS body armor. Sci-fi bullshity space magic type body armor, but they aren't wearing spandex cause that's just what you do. It's the color it is because at the time most/all the xmen has a blue and yellow color scheme.

>>90113128
He should but he doesn't. Because he's worn it since day one.