HYW/How's Your Webcomic? #348

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>>89931239
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

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>>89931239

i just finished this page

website: http://ggz.thecomicseries.com/

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>>89931385

i also went back and fixed page 5 where i drew the wrong dress on Ladara, she is wearing the right clothes now!

>>89931385

It is almost impossible to decipher the flow of this page.

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>>89931519

well its not rocket science anon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZn9ghG9nRw

>>89931239
anon: i appreciate what you've done, really, but
>>89931307
you had all day to make a thread, but you waited until someone else made a shitty one. Don't act like you have the high ground here.

as for that activity, I love it!

>>89931749
its not up to one person to do the threads. its everyones effort
and i just got back

>as for that activity, I love it!
thanks and happy v-day

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>>89931239
i was going to make a shitty comic about a seagull, just for fun, haven't gotten back into it yet.

>>89932016
kek i like it
where do you plan on going with this?

>>89932074
just doing it for fun.
i've had this idea in my head for quite a while now.
i plan on making it a comedy.

>>89932264
no i mean storywise

>>89931833
>i just got back
okay that's an honest excuse
it is a wonderful, wonderful day

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>>89932323
oh, i don't really want to spoil anything, although i will say steven seagal makes an appearance.

>>89932016
I could see this little fucker having some interesting adventures. Maybe something going on around him that he's totally clueless to, but nonetheless plays a significant role in. Like he stops a robbery by shitting in the crook's eye, but then as he's being taken away he knocks over a can of paint that splatters on the police car's windshield and it crashes and the guy gets away. that kind of shit. just meaningless go-nowhere plots that are fun to see through

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Trying to recreate my standard inking and lettering brushes after updating Krita. I think I've almost got it down.

I think I love doing these wacky ink doodles a little too much, haha.

>>89932452
that doesn't sound like a bad idea

So, I started making my website for my comic and I've been looking at the pastebin for do's/don'ts for starting a site, and it says not to host images on your domain, but to use Amazon's services instead. Any reason for that? Like, what are the cons of hosting images on your own domain?

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here's a sample of my art, am I good enough for web comics?

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>>89931239
>character's ideal mate
Hey maybe you guys can help me with this. They're not going to be actual characters in the story but I do plan on some kind of epilogue, and it's gotta show who people marry, because Sasha, Robin, and Riven deserve happiness and hot dickings
I have some ideas in mind for the first two not Ryuko. stop asking, Lenoh. but the last one has me flummoxed. Who do you think she'll end up with? Will she be a foreveralone nerd? who's Robin going to snag? who could put up with her kookiness? and what do you think of this oni feller? We know she likes those, she jumped the bones of an 11-footer once

>>89932919
MARBLE OR BC?

>>89932843
you should never blindly listen to dos-and-donts, but I think the idea here is that Amazon provides good hosting and makes it a lot easier. Last thread we had a big discussion about the complexities of being the sole person responsible for keeping your website functioning, and not everyone can or should handle that

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http://abnor.com.br/?lang=en

50 pages down, 200 or so to go

>>89933561
Gotta ask, what happened to the elf's offered quest at the end of the last page? did that go through or not? Did someone else have dibs on THAT one too? Poor sanaa and tadeu..
I love that you're making fun of yourself a bit in this one..
and I'm glad to hear there's plenty more pages coming (or is that a joke?) because I was suddenly scared this comic might be winding down

>>89933561
looks good anon, are you using 3d models for the buildings/vehicles?

was thinking of doing that myself

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I rarely did anything comic related lately, but at least I got this lousy V-day update.

>>89933631
The elf's quest is the very first arc in the comic, that triggers this loooong 40 page flashback we just came out of.
The writer has an idea of how many pages he will need to tell the full story, we have a list of the sagas and arcs it will have, so 200 is sort of a serious estimative of how many pages we will need, but each arc always takes one or two more pages longer than he anticipated.
We just finished the first saga with this flashback I think. What made you think it was winding down though?

>>89933789
Thanks, man. I used 3D models for the carriage, the staircase and the table scenes on the last 2 rows. Tried and failed miserably to use one for the city. I still rely on photos for references, but I highly recommend using sketchup to set up scenes.

>>89934354
cute as hell
looks familiar though, did you start this earlier?

>>89934747
ohh hahaha, flashback goodness. I thought that might be the case. So that was the thing with the cherufes. Man that is fantastic.

Well just because of the way things have come full circle (I recognized that much at least) and the talk of their final goal (buying an Inn) seemed to be getting more focus, I thought maybe they were going to finally settle down.. but I was hoping it wouldn't

I wouldn't THINK it was time to end it, but that comic about the girl fighting for the rabbits ended right after it started, despite establishing this huge, full setting with a giant tower populated by 12 kinds of animals, and we only saw four of them

>>89934832
It's from a webcomic of mine I started 5 years ago. It's been on hiatus for half a year or so, so I cannot say it's ongoing, but I'm working on the sidelines to give it some closure.

>>89934354
Just realized there's a stupid typo. That happens when you don't proofread 5 times before greenlighting this.
I'll fix it tomorrow.

>>89934933
I meant this specific page

>>89935200
Oh, nope, I don't think I shown this page anywhere until I finished it, so I'd say no.

>>89932919
/ic/, please...

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I'm inking off of sketches I did over a year ago and it's more like liberally interpreting a scribble

>>89935781
still a lot easier than working from scratch, am I right?
psst, do you ever think about, like, the sizes of lenses that would be required for big-eyed characters?

>>89935781

That's when I do my best ink work, desu. Helps me to "invent the line" rather than trace. My pencils have actually gotten way looser because of it.

>>89932996
Yeah, I read that discussion, I was the person asking about it last thread. I am a complete newbie to running a website so anything to ease the repsonsibilities would be welcome for now, until I learn how to actually do this. My main concern is that I really have no idea how much Amazon would cost me because I don't know how much data would be transferred out every month, as well as how all the other fees would factor in.

If anyone else uses Amazon S3, how much does it cost you each month? Or if you don't use Amazon, how do you host the images to your comic?

>>89936357
I wish I could help you but I do know that this is one of the most popular hosting options (Or it was like 2-3 years ago anyway) so it's kinda like Photoshop.. might be a lot of shit to sort out, but it's popular enough that there's tutorials all over the place. I'd be stunned if you couldnt easily find some help with this process

>>89936611
I'm laughing pretty hard at this.. The crumminess of it combined with the unexpectedly but inconsistently realistic animals really hits me in my gallbladder or someplace like that.
you gots more?

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took some advice from a previous thread about establishing character location and clarity. any more suggestions before I move onto color?

1/2

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this is probably the fastest I've ever done a page because I didn't realise it was already my update day so here's to hoping there is no glaringly obvious errors I missed

>>89936994
ooh that is a nasty wound just offpage. can't wait
>>89936993
backgrounds are great, I can definitely follow where they are now relative to each other, at least just about. I know he's at the river there and you established the river nicely..
I also think I'm noticing some of your previously stiff art loosening up a bit. Good on that.

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Trying a new style.

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>>89936993

and 2/2

>>89937114
Huh. outlineless. I feel like maybe when you have a better grasp of structure you should revisist this, because aspects of it (especially the really clean shapes) are pretty cool... but for now your art really doesn't need something that relieves it of its structural boundaries. Kinda the opposite.
If you do continue with it though, make sure you think in 3d when you shade things. see how the beveled edges on sarah's hair and legs make them look completely flat? whereas the nice curved shading on the sweater gives it a little more depth. I've noticed you doing a lot better shading and shining on hair lately, not just sticking with rimlighting, so hold onto that and keep developing it!

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>>89937062

I rescued an industrial light-table from a foundering biology department, so I've been able to go over my older stuff and practice flow management and composition. For comparison here's what it looked like previously.

>>89937222
Thanks, Have this I did just now.

Also Nice trips

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>>89937530
Forgot pic

>>89937550
already an improvement, if a little muddled. shading is hard, knowing when and how to connect all the pieces still befuddles me to this day.
My only real advice for here (aside from the usual issues of tightening up the uneven parts) is see how his nose has so much elaborate shading that it almost looks detached, but his inner ear doesn't have any at all? food for thought

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Concept character art for a webcomic I'm co-creating

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Finally got around that Protagonist reveal

>>89937610
>drunken fratboy horus
>horace nametag
I can't even.. dude, I really want this to continue. it looks like it could be real Adult Swim material
and for that, you're gonna have to get a little better at drawing mmkay? just a few areas, but you've gotta learn how to draw hands, and remember that a gut sticks out in front, so those legs should be placed further back.

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>>89937706
>He's gonna do it, the absolute madman!

kek, ok anon

>>89937706
I have been spending way too much time at the internet firearm database because I knew that sucker before Guntank there did.
Hav eyou posted here before? doesn't look very familiar. I like it, at least some of it. Watch out for that growing forehead syndrome in the bottom left panels. also might be worth investing in some larger word balloons, they're getting cramped in some places.

>>89937749
thanks for the advice!

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>>89937764
precious internet memes

>>89937795
Yes I have. Many times in fact.

Well the word ballon problem is gonna have to be something I'll have to deal with as I go since this first part of the story I wrote like a jackass, as for the forehead, that's how he is supposed to look.

>>89937894
oh it's frenchfries lizard dragon lady comic! Awesome.
>how he is supposed to look
in that case, watch out for SHRINKING forehead disease in the FIRST panel

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I've been thinking of trying to nail down some more solid black forms on >>89937219 and >>89936993 , like I did in pin related, from an earlier chapter. The thing is, this earlier example takes place at night by a fire, so its easier to place contrasts than with the day scene >>89937219. Any suggestions or guides for inking solid forms?

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>>89937933
I shrinked his forehead in the first panel because it looked too big when I first did it, also he's looking downwards sorta.

I'm glad I dropped the lanky/square eyes look, his design has come a long way.

>>89938020
oh it's uniformed space heroes guys comic. Man, can I get a title for this thing? This is the third or fourth time now I've thought you were someone else, but you were really you

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>>89938377
It's called Knight of Fire, but I find it funny how people just don't recognize it most of the time especially considering that early 2016 I came here for help with the character designs, and then back in September to storytime a short ''proof of concept'' I made. Maybe I should watermark the pages.

>>89938566
Well that's just it, you left us for so long.. and it looks so familiar but indistinctly familiar, especially since you keep improving your art.
Knight of Fire isn't gonna stick in my memory very well, I'm afraid. It's already a book, a song from Xenogears, a different book.. besides the comic is about four people with different abilities, right? not just one..

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>>89938648
Me and my friends threw ideas around, like some edgy stuff like ''Dangerous Days'', but that was already the working title of Blade Runner, so we changed it to ''Deadly Days'', and then I started doing some pretty terrible stuff like ''Royal Patrol'', either way Knight of Fire is the only title that really stuck with me, one because it's based on a song, two it really isn't about the other 3 characters as much as they're there to compliment the main one, but I still tried brainstorming about the titles but I just fucking suck at it, not even something like ''Futuristic Clusterfuck'' sticked with me.

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Thread did a die before could post the finished article - happy Valentine's Day, /hyw/!

>>89938826

Well like, >>89938648 said, Knight of Fire is used elsewhere, have you thought of taking a few more steps of separation? its cool to be influenced by a song or a term, but sometimes just using the words can be too on the nose. maybe translate it into some different languages, look at latin roots, find something striking and phonetically pleasing at the same time. for instance, "Knight of Fire" is "Eques Ignis" in Latin.

>>89938826
well I'll try to remember it anyway because I'm glad you're around

>>89938949
hot

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Last minute Greg and Goldie update, for Valentine's day. Nearly as hasty as the first chapter style, but it looks a little more put together.

>>89939018
have they seriously raised the smoking age to 19?

>>89939050
It's a New Jersey specific law. I think 18 is the national standard.

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>missed update day (sunday)
>each day it gets easier to ignore
Fuck

Is this how it begins

>>89939155

dude, I'm so slow that I update like once a year. Granted, its like a 10 page chapter a year and I'm doing everything with ink and paper because I'm an old fuck. Relax, and just focus on getting the update done, not the time constraints.

>>89939155

Yes. That is exactly how that starts, and you are remarkably self-aware for realizing that. So now be remarkably self-motivating and UPDATE YOUR FUCKING COMIC.

>>89939155
I solve that by starting my next update directly after the late one
unfortunately that just makes me dawdle sometimes thinking I'm 'ahead'

>>89939260
>write ahead in the story in thumbnails instead of finishing current page/s
>"see, I'm working on the comic!"
>actively recognize what bullshit that is but fall into complacency anyway
Literally took an Adderall prescription to get me back into it, and I still need to shake off some bad habits.

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>>89939214
>>89939231
>>89939260
>check script i wrote last week
>literally the laziest joke I've got yet
almost feels like cheating
fuck it i have class in 7 hours

>>89932919
still better than 90% of /hyw/

>>89939657

>almost feels like cheating

If there's anything I've learned, it's that in the world of cartooning cheaters DO prosper.

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>>89939787

I've had to let go of that idea myself. I studied art from a practical perspective as a sculptor, getting into welding and drafting, so I've never taken many drawing classes, and the idea of tracing scenery or modelling a close up after a real person or a photograph bothered me. I felt like I had to be able to draw anything from scratch, so I don't use any kind of references. It shows in how long it takes me to complete things and in how stiff my work is sometimes as >>89937062 said.

Have an off topic character study.

>>89938949
Saw this on my dash before. Really nice work!

>>89935857
all my characters are big-eyed characters, so I draw glasses pretty huge. It's not strange at all, I'm wearing glasses right now and the lenses literally take up most of my scope of vision so they seem huge regardless.

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>>89936701
Only a couple other drawings of the capybara. This is the only other "comic" I did.
I can share the former as well. If anyone cares

Man, I am tired of trying to draw

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>>89939214
I haven't updated since April.
I have like 30-40 pages done too.

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>>89939155
backlog the shit out of it my dude

sit down a day youre particularly free and make like ten comics one after the other

and then as son as you have the chance do ten more comics

always draw more than you need, always have a couple of comics ready to go just in case

the good thing is that once you get into the rythm of making multiple comics it becomes natural

the only downside is this
<<<<<

>>89934859
Should we make it more obvious in the dialogue what the quest is about? We thought people would get right away what Valadares is talking about, we already saw the elf chief on page 5 and all that but... maybe we should add something like "they are having trouble with cherufes" to make it easier?

I have no idea what comic you are talking about, but don't worry, we will explore the continent of Abnor quite a bit still, after all, this is The essential backpacking guide to the continent for the professional adventurer on a budget, even if it doesn't do a very good job of being a guide.

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also, lets talk about religion

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>>89943389

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>>89943415
how do you treat religion in your comic?
are there gods in your setting?
are they real?
if they are real, is what's written about them in the sacred text accurate?

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>>89943476

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>>89943492

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>>89943514

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>>89943542

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>>89943564
and thats it for today

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>>89943584
This was a golden chance to take a break from doing stupid smut requests I'm doing atm.
There's no way I could let this one slip.

>>89942793
heh.
xant tell whos talking though and capis shoulders and elbows are dislocated in the second panel

>>89943188
i like it

>>89943389
make jesus' holy shine have less lines, that ways it looks lighter and not like an intertwined ball if yarn

>>89943999
good advice, i wasnt liking the halo either
>>89943887
fucking nice, saved

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Does anyone know a way other than wayback machine to recover lost images of a comic that is no longer up? I am specifically looking for para-ten.com, no idea what the author is up to now but never responds to questions about his old comic... (And frankly his new style does not have the same charm). I got most of the pages from wayback, but there are several missing, and was wondering if anyone knew of a similar archive or another way to get them back

>>89943476
i like them all, funny stuff senpai and nice art.
>how do you treat religion?
i dont think theres many here that dive into that kind if stuff. its unrelated to whatever story they have.

>>89943584
>all i got was splinters in my hands
isnt it "all i got WERE splinters in my hands"?
also the joke here is that jesus isnt really jesus?

>>89943999
>dislocated shoulder

Woopsie. My brain must have slipped, yeah that looks retarded. The brown animal is talking btw. I figured people could tell since the text is next to her. Also the cat is confused in the second panel so she doesn't know what "that thing" is
But uhh yeah I should make word bubbles if I ever do more text heavy comics..

>>89944380
yeah i figured
at first though i thought both cat and dog were saying it

>>89944234
thanks man, and yes, it should be WERE, enlgish is not my first language
>also the joke here is that jesus isnt really jesus?
for now the joke is that jesus wasnt the son of god, as the plot advances (yes there is going to be plot, quite an intricate one in fact) it will turn out to be a bit more complicated than that

>>89944767
ah
sounds good

>>89942793
The style varies greatly between the two comics, what's up with that?
But I'm liking the second one a lot, where can I see more?

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hey hyw, I worked a bit on my website itself today, whaddya think?

http://www.napapiiricomic.com

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>>89947626
Oh. I just decided to do line art for the first one (something I lack in skill)
They are both pretty mediocre but i didn't apply much effort to either. The first one was a quick thing and the second was a gift for someone.
I can paint okay-ish, but I'm very slow at it
My tumblr is daethdrain. Thanks for taking interest

>>89947912

Good flow, visual focus on the comic, dynamic graphics...slick!

I dunno if this is reproducible on other browsers, but for me the "news" tab in the navbar is floating a little too far away from the others. I'm on mobile Chrome.

>>89939657
that's actually pretty good

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>>89948777

It'm a martyr to that damn bar, I'll open up dreamweaver and see if I can get it back into line.

nice trips btw

>>89940824
actually I was sort of implying you didn't draw the glasses that big, and in fact his eyes would poke out from behind them
>>89943188
youuu. you are funny. I've loved this last arc. so cheeky and so well-informed
>>89943299
if I recall, you DID name-drop the cherufes recently, got me right back in the right mindset.
>>89943476
I have mostly gone the lazy narnia route and had them just name-drop the real thing but er um it's probably slightly different in this universe yeah whatever. there's other magical beings, they're just explicitly at the same level as angels and demons, and there's plenty of statues and temples and crap littered around various areas.
>>89944234
even though splinters is plural, 'all' is singular.

>>89948168
see I could tell you could do a lot better. It's understandable though if you don't wanna go to this much trouble every time for a comic though. most people simplify
If you DID want to put in the time though, I could see the unique look really giving you some attention from readers

>>89935901
god i know right?
when i did this strip>>89943514 i wanted to make it look a bit more sloppy and hastly put together to emphasize the "cheap" feel of it being a second take.
turns out is the one i had the most fun inking and overall the one that feels the most, i dunno, dinamic, it looks a lot less stiff

>>89949484
hey did that one even go up on the site? I don't remember it

>>89949160
Heh thanks, but I'm not interested in doing slice of lifes if that's what you think. These few were just for fun. These characters are meant for bigger things, but that's way far off rn.
Also I know I'll never get significant attention, but that's alright. I don't really care to put myself out there.
But thanks im glad someone thinks that

>>89949732
Oh okay! Well, I'll just be patient then.. but don't be a stranger

>>89943299
it took me until you said it was a flashback arc to catch on.
maybe im just dumb

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warm up doodle from yesterday cause there wasn't a thread...

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>>89931239

does page 7 look better in pure black and white or with a tiny bit of color in it?

>>89950620
colour looks way better.

>>89937967
your anatomy is a bit off here, crazyguy's right shoulder shouldn't be hitting that angle, especially considering the rest of his posture like the angle of his chest/back/left shoulder and left arm. rotating the shoulder and club forward to bring the club to roughly parallel with the ground would make more sense.

Try posing like that yourself and see what makes sense, hows it feel.

>>89937114
>>89937550

these look pretty good man, something you would see on old school samurai jack or something

>>89950706

thanks i thought so to. Only the stuff that is or will be b-b-q'd will be in color though.

Im never going to do this, but for example, if i had a person in color in this comic... expect the worst... like that person is as good as b-b-q'd lol

>>89949684
yes, it did
http://disregarding-reality.tumblr.com/post/156892867876/new-page-everyone-authors-notes-yisus-mom

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Doing a rough design for the shirt Dupe wears under his vest. This is what I got so far.

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The page from last week...

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>>89951574
...and the upcoming page for this week.

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>>89949871
I wont. I'll try to post wips and finished stuff in the oc thread whenever it's up 8)
For now here's a frame of an animation I'm doing. Trying to have it all painted

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>>89947912
>>89948932
>>89948777

>http://www.napapiiricomic.com

I fixed the problem with the news/home button, and centered the navigation bar.

>>89951588
hehehe, he's a koala.

>>89951615
animation? all-painted animation? damn son

>>89948967
>even though splinters is plural, 'all' is singular
sounds off to me, maybe all isnt necessarily singular? also if theres a past tense already in there (in this case "got") then the next tense wouldnt be
all they had was pool chairs / all they had were pool chairs

>>89950587
her head is a bit too flat here, look like shes facing front with her torso if it werent for the tail

>>89950620
no, the moment you add color to anything you fuck it up
keep it greyscale, adds to the tone anyway

>>89951392
cool, it mean anything?

>>89951802
It's treating the general state of being as an object. basically "all I got was ((having) splinters)"
it's not supposed to be the same 'got' as in 'getting splinters' because he doesn't go into the sentence saying "all that I was the object of", he went in saying "all that I acquired in return" which is its own concept, and a concept can be singular.

think of it this way: would you say "all I got/saw/etc were you"? because you goes with were

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>>89951802
Not yet. it's just placeholder gibberish. I've developed 3 alien languages for this project though so I'll probably just do his name in one of them.

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I can feel myself starting to grope around for a consistent visual style here, which is a good thing. The designs are starting to evolve both visually and in concept - Annie's been renamed to June, to better fit her "introverted entomology nerd" theme, and Maude is back to being a sneering goth as I originally conceived of her. I think she's a better foil to the other characters that way. Plus, most of my other protagonists have been more chipper, so in a way it's more of a challenge - it is surprisingly difficult to capture that perfect level of boredom and disdain in a characters face, haha.

>>89951588

>this is my life now

Kek'd

>>89951897
huh. excuse me, our schoos werent the best at actually teaching.
any sites youd recommend for this?

>>89951937
love it. these designs are awesome
you a graphic designer?

>>89951802
>her head is a bit too flat here, look like shes facing front with her torso if it werent for the tail

That's why the tails there :^).

fair point tho, that's why I do these warm up doodles.

>>89950557
But are you the same guy who asked me what happened to the elf's quest in the first reply? Because right now it looks like two people didn't get it, so maybe it's our fault

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>>89952180
No, I wish. That's quite a compliment though, thanks!

>>89951937
Also forgot to mention that the one at the bottom there isn't finished.

>>89952313
i am not the guy who did the first reply, but i thought the same thing to be completely honest i totally forgot about the elf's quest on the previous page until he pointed it out.
this went straight over my head.

maybe if i was reading it straight through i would have caught it.

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>>89952126
I like it, I like the looseness


... once again I really suspect you've messed up the aspect ratio here.. am I alone? I look at June's two feet, the shape of her sleeves, it really looks like it's been reduced horizontally. even the handwriting. I'll shut up

anyway I love the idea here. floating psychics are so great.

>>89952180
My schools were terrible too. I just.. 'got' english by reading lots of books. Of course nowadays books aren't proofread or anything, so they have to be of a certain age if they're going to help.

>>89952463
>maybe if i was reading it straight through i would have caught it.
yeah I feel like this comic works a lot better read all in a row. Lots of comics are like that. It's not a problem really, people will get it eventually.

>>89952401
neat!

I think i'm going to try to get a short comic involving Oko out here soon, decided to use a future storyline with a fair amount of established lore to tell a decent story.

"Esper Girl Oko can no longer do without a mentor, but no Esper is willing to teach her. She must embark on a mission, traveling alone, to find the King of Espers, Lucas. On her journey, she will find the truth behind the Espers, their harsh rituals, and why it is a curse to most granted this gift"

By this point in the story, Oko has only met one other Esper, but this particular Esper has been especially cold to her.

>>89952463
>>89952555
>>89948967

Thanks, Anons. Thinking about it now, though, the last panel in this page is a reference way harder to get than remembering the elf's quest. Any change you guys got it?

>>89952853
it's that foppish guy, right? who.. turned into a girl or something? I have vaaague memories. the one who ran away in that basementy area where the rebels were hiding.. from that hole in that bathroom
i didn't think very hard, I was just waiting patiently for the next comic to tell us who it is

>>89952853
its theelf guy who was in the sword of something and student rebel arc no?

>>89950620
The fact that only hotdogs and hotdog accessories are vivid in the dreary world of the goth is your strongest theme. Embrace it.

>>89952909
>>89952928
Yesssss that's it. It's a mirror of his entrance on page 10.
Thanks again for the feedback guys!

>>89953307
(but I wouldn't have even considered it was someone familiar if you hadn't said so. I should probably expect that more often but I tend to go into a comic with no expectations)

>>89953329
Fair enough

>>89952126
are you a girl? london?

>>89931696
it doesn't look good either

>>89952511

I think it's due to 4chan's resizing. Are you on mobile? I've noticed 4chan squashes my drawings when viewing them in portrait on a mobile browser.

Admittedly, June's right foot IS fucked up, but that's because I'm a dip who cannot into perspective. Glad you like it, though.

>>89953960

I am an American male.

>>89954432
what inspired you to draw such a gay premise?

>>89954537

Are we talking gay as in homosexual, gay as in giddy, or gay as in bad?

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>>89950620

super ealry preview of the next page... but this page really wont work until its finished and thas the dialog to compliment it.

in the digital sketch version there is a really cool window being breathed on and words written into it effect that i hope translates well into the finished digitally inked in version of this page when its finished.

Also the sound effects work really well in the sketch version which you cant see here yet.

>>89951802
>, the moment you add color to anything you fuck it up
>keep it greyscale, adds to the tone anyway

i was thinking the same thing, but i think its best that i stand out from all the other black and white webcomics in my own unique way and having all the bbq stuff like fire and the food that gets bbq lit up and highlighted in color is the way to go, plus there will be plenty of black and white pages with no food or fire in them so there is that i guess...

>>89952946
thanks anon! i will!

>>89954537
maybe anon is a girl but doesnt want anyone to freak out and invoke the #1 rule thats always invoked when a random female shows up to this place which used to be a boys only club until tumblr and reddit raided us "TITS OR GET THE FUCK OUT!" lol, those were good times, back when moot was still here, showing up in random threads with his name all lit up, to bad to many people broke rules 1 and 2 and talked about this place to normies, secret clubs not a secret anymore, feels bad man, lol

or, maybe anon is gay or completely straight and want to draw to a female crowd and get female fans... who knows?

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>>89954282

>>89954910
It's funny because I'm fairly certain the only good comics in HYW are made by women

>>89955144
/co/ is all female or gay guys. This is a proven fact.

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>>89954910

does effect i made with a copic marker work? Does it look like Ladara is breathing hard on the window in a full blown crazy stalker girl mode?

>>89955249
name names anon, dont be scared, since you know so much about this place.

Also not a gay bone in my body! im 100% straight! :D

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>tfw working on a update but the lackluster responses to your previous updates erodes your motivation and joy in your work and you drop the pen in favor of unproductive pursuits that triggers a dopamine response strong enough to placate the nagging emptiness

>>89955144
I checked and I was wrong, out of the maybe two really good comic creators there's one dude creator and one female creator, so we're at a nice 50-50 split until one of you gets good.

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>TFW to inteligent to wright

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>>89956066

ahem, and im finished! Hope ya like it.

more pages here: http://ggz.thecomicseries.com/

10 pages in milestone celebration bitches! aw yeah son, lol

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Ok, tried to make a background with my new style

I made three different varients.

Here's the regular day one

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>>89958102
Here's the night time one.

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>>89958134
And here's the color varient for action scenes.

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>>89958102

holy shit man as a thumbnail it looks fucking amazing and pro as shit, you should definitely stick with this style and polish it

>>89958134
hmm... this doesnt look good from far away or close up, stay away from dark colors when doing this style, bright colors seem to work the best so far from what you've shown us so far

>>89958168

hm, size it down man it doesnt look good big or close up at all man, it looks incredibly great and amazing as a thumbnail so keep it small man

>>89957625
This is some next level trolling.

>>89958294
I'm absolutely serious, my guy. Some people here have good, practiced art but even out of that fairly small group the ability to write is shockingly scarce, and some people write decent strips with weak premises and characters. Then some people here have promising concepts but no actual production going on.

2 is undershooting it, but it's really not much higher than that. I'd be pressed to name 10.

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Good character design?
Premise is a hero who can only fight when there's a punchbuggy in his field of vision. It's an action comedy.
I'm worried people will think it's a OPM ripoff.

>>89959213

Does seem pretty heavily OPM inspired.

With a mix of Gohan's Great Saiyaman from DBZ.

>>89959294
The helmet is inspired by the look of a Volkswagen buggy from the front. Tires on the side, eyes being headlights and exhaust pipes on the back.

>>89958991
ive seen like 7 or so with pra
omise and skill, most arent here anymore. maybe on the discord; i havent been there in 500 years.
>tfw the senpaitachi you loved to help out dont post anymore
i hope theyre onto greater things

anyways i dont think much creators here reveal their sex, or have their sex come up at all so we dont really know. not that it matteres much anyways.

>>89959540
*promise
how the fuck

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>tfw you come up with a really cool scene for one of your scripts kind of like pic related
>but it happens like three arcs into a project that is behind like other four projects in you backlog
>still haven't worked on the first in line because i'm always getting ideas i like for ther others and end up reading up on things that could improve them instead of working on the first one
H-ho-how do I get to focus on one idea?

>>89944188
anyone help with this? I hate the guy for pushing his fans away and never delivering some sort of pdf or book to buy

>>89954432
i'm not on mobile, no.. are you? maybe that's what happened.. I mean, does that version that I stretched look wrong to you?

>>89931272
And to whoever posted it last time, is there a site like quickposes with animals, or just an animal set for quickposes or something? Most of my comic ideas feature animals way more heavily than humans.

>>89959590
No need to completely ignore them. Maybe you'll decide against making one of them in the future and then you can just recycle a good scene from it. Commit to getting your current comic out in a timely fashion but plan the next few comics as a creative exercise. Thumbnailing is quick and fun. If you have the time you could get a backlog started on your next plot in the queue or even post both as you go.

Basically, schedule production time out but allow for off-subject brainstorming.

>>89959540
Yeah, I had to check someone's semi-private blog to confirm the one I was on the fence about. It really doesn't matter too much, it was just hearing any sort of notion of "back in the good ol' days we didn't have any girls" from bones of all people that made me wonder.

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>>89960184
now you got me wondering what sex id come across as if someone only saw my actual style and nothing else

>>89960184
>"back in the good ol' days we didn't have any girls"

i hear how your saying it, but i didn't mean it like that. im not anti female, the more woman here the better, i meant back before obvious tumblr, rieddit and facebook people started posting here 4chan was good, i didn't mean the lack of females made this place great, some of my favorite artist are female like... um... i cant think of any right off the top of my head...

loish on deviant art she's awesome! and uh...

rosi toherras who makes unknown lands on comic fury and did some work for marvel and dc comics, she is awesome...

rebecca sugar kicks a lot of ass!

woman artists are awesome, dont twist my words around anon

inb4 "damaga control!" stfu! thats not what any of this is faggots, i love woman and woman artist. period.

>>89958102
>>89958134
>>89958168
so like, the geometry is pretty wonky, but the shading here is really nice and the overall shape and size is actually comparable to a real house people could actually live in. Did you use a reference? This really feels like a 3d object for once. Just... a 3d object from pee-wee's playhouse or psychonauts or something. You're definitely getting better at this. If you patiently draw out carefully straight lines and shapes that have even widths, and carefully plan out where to put windows (say, not at the very edge of a wall) and things like that, you could really make a nice-looking house!

Renne Lewds since the people (person ;_;) voted for it on my site

http://dewdlewds.tumblr.com/image/157299404581

>>89960753
I just drew my dad's house from memory.

But yeah, I'll plan things out more in the future!

>>89959213
the thing you see and then punch someone isn't a punch buggy, punch buggy is the name of the game played when you punch someone for seeing a bug. and even that is only the trademark-friendly version of the game (not that VW has the trademark on 'bug')
that said, good pun. is it not supposed to be a play on that? because punch?
I like his checkered glove and his stoplight shin, this is a truly unique costume .. even the helmet and the specific shape of the cape's neck.. I never thought I'd see another superhero costume that wasn't cliche.
>>89959353
it's not called a buggy, m8. s'called a bug.

>>89960699
the irony that the reason women are scared to be women on the internet is because their scarcity has made them highly prized desired commodities, when it's men who are supposed to be desired and sought after

>>89960823
The fuck are you on about? He's right about the punch buggy game played as kids when you see a certain color VW buggy

>>89958991
Name as many as you can please

No I'm not hoping to see if I make the cut

>>89961290
yes but that's the name of the game. he said he can only fight when there's "a punchbuggy" in his fov
that's like saying "a gin rummy"
and they aren't called buggies, they're called bugs. and the game is called slug bug.

>>89961473
Good god you are dense

>>89960823
Ahh okay, my dad and I always just called the cars punchbuggys. I really appreciate your praise of the costume though. I want to make a standout character real bad.

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Eh...who are these creeps?

What can I say, I need a Malfoy.

tfw no fans

>>89961865
okay seriously, is it just me? this looks stretched

>went to webtoons to read the breathing shitpost that is Keit-Ai
>check if it's any difficult to publish since this keit-ai adaptation's drawings look kind of amateur-ish
>all those benefits for authors
>patreon partnership
>fucking merchandising
So, what's the downside? It almost sounds too good.

>>89961978

It's not just you. After flipping between Chrome and Krita a couple times, it's definitely stretched slightly. I'm chalking it up to 4chan, because I posted the same art on facebook and it was fine.

Speaking of which, can anyone tell me why my strokes are still anti-aliased in Krita despite turning anti-alias off in the brush settings?

>>89962116
i've never heard of the ol' forch doin that. what browser are you using? also, link us your facebook art page?
as for the latter, are you using a BRUSH brush tool, rather than a pen?

>>89962116
i actualy rather like it, lanky guy
like those old cartoon proportions

>>89962040
>patreon partnership
what does this even mean? what's stopping you from making your own patreon?

>>89962208
yeah but when you look at the head, it's distorted because it's tilted and then stretched, instead of intentionally stretched then tilted

>>89962040
Well you have to actually get a decent following on Webtoons before you can reap any of the benefits, I think the minimum is 5000 subscribers for $100/month, and 10000 pageviews for another $100.
Other than that, though, I imagine it's a pretty nice gig.

>>89962235
You can still make your own patreon, but webtoons will pay out money to your patreon as well. So you'll get patreon money from normal patrons, as well as webtoons.

>>89962235
I have no idea what pages I can publish my shit on and I think that being part of a community could help build a following. Not sure about tumblr's actual capacity to achieve that.

>>89962294
so basically they have a middleman between paying you for ads that gets taxed a second time

>>89962161

I'm using Chrome. Maybe I'll try Edge tomorrow and see if it does anything different.

>art page

I'm flattered you're interested, unfortunately I just meant my personal FB profile. I don't have a main outlet I'm posting my art to at the moment, but I'd like to fix that soon.

>brush

I'm using a custom brush that uses fill_circle as a base. Turned anti-aliasing off, set the softness all the way to the right, and yet there's still noticeable antialiasing on my strokes.

Maybe it's time to bite the bullet and learn to use a vector-based program.

>>89962739
or just any other program, such as clipstudio.
maybe you set the softness to the left?
or use the pen tool and see how it differs, i dunno, I've never used krita

>>89962246
head and all senpai

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Do you think a comic with regular twin sister fanservice would be appreciated by the general comics/webcomics audience?

For research purposes.

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Valentines day is one hell of a drug.

25 minutes into the day and I already have this much.

>>89963744
I'd enjoy it

Are we counting fancomics ITT, or just OC?

>>89963744
You mean incest stuff?
>general
Doubt it
>4chan
Yes and they'll suck you off for it

>>89963744
assuming its just teasing
>incest
yes
>twincest
YES

>>89963869
never seen fancomics here but sure why not

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>>89963869
>>89963990

Been hammering out the first page of my latest comic for the past couple of weeks. I still have some fine-tuning to do (detailing backgrounds with shading, mainly), but I got the hard part done (That fucking HOUSE).

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Finally got the lines for this done. I'm pretty excited for coloring this chapter, as I'm going to get to color some environments that aren't blue/green for once.

>>89964170
>not writing it out 'ECKS-JAY-NIYUN!'

>>89964336

>All of Nora's dialogue gets replaced with ECKS-JAY-NIYUN repeated over and over again

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>tfw your ceiling has more fans than your comic

>>89963744

>incest

Sure.

>twincest

Hot damn, even better

>lesbian twincest

FUCKING FUND IT

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>>89957838

fuck, i went back and fixed it but cant upload the hd version until tomorrow. I hate when that happens.

heres a low kb preview

>>89962338
if you wanna be part of a 'community' tumblr obviously has more of one than anyone else..
but that needs to be a BIG if

>>89963744
No.

Why are you asking the perverts of /co/ if you want a general idea?

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>>89964916

Next page you guys!

jk!

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>>89938982
Cosh seems to have become the heartthrob nobody asked for.

>>89940191
Thanks, buddy!

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>>89966669

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New page! wow it didn't take 3 weeks this time

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New Wilfreda the Wanna-Be Witch page is up! It's the end of the Valentines Day arc... and the beginning of the Valentines' Mystery. Victor can't get a break.

Read more at http://wilfredacomic.tumblr.com/

>>89966669
That hot dog looks like a penis, bro.

>>89968329
thatsthejoke.jpg

>>89968235
>>89968225
So are these two posts just part of the same spam? Success due to the power of meme magic I guess

I don't know which is worse, the guy who doesn't get bones' retarded excuse for a joke, or the guy who thinks it is funny

>>89958991
>Names No names, expressess vague ill defined concerns.
>Trolling
Pick two.

>>89951574
>>89951588
You're doing a good job m8.

>>89968917
I don't want to directly discourage anyone with a snub or draw attention to particular artists as the "good" ones because some people get very bitter about that and might be unduly rude to them. A sweeping reminder to everyone to not become complacent serves the purpose of my post.

I also suspect my parameters for good writing are unusually high - even outside of HYW I'm hard-pressed to name good webcomics. All I know is that my eyes totally gloss over for most of the comics here and I don't understand the purpose of people writing them when they have no hook or any evidence of building up to one. Originality is another issue - a bit more forgivable, nothing's truly "original" anyway, but sometimes you've just really seen _____ premise a million times and they don't depart meaningfully from it.

"Different strokes for different folks" plays a role, I'm sure. I wouldn't target anyone specifically for my opinions. But it's hard to believe there's as much subjectivity in quality as would allow for any large number of the comics here to be considered "good", especially if technical skill is a factor.

That said:
Keep up the hard work, everyone! Comics are a media with incredible potential, and a lot of you do have that potential. I'd love for you to hit such a stride of improvement that even horrible snobs like me have to hand it to you, and if we don't, you'll still find your audience out there.

I haven't posted in this thread so I really don't want some faggot telling me to get better but why is it that all of the TERRIBLE art gets replies and the stuff thats either good or very close to good gets ignored?

It's also apparent that the terrible art is generally all digital and the decent stuff seems to originate from pencils. Do people in these threads ignore stuff that isn't strictly digital?

Again, I'm not trying to be salty; I don't have a picture sitting up above. I just genuinely flip through these threads whenever I see them and the only discussion seems to focus on the lower end art.

>>89970566

Like flies to shit, people are generally attracted to the worst of the worst.

>>89960753
Literally the worst fucking advice ever. Anons style would be ruined if he tried to make it less wonky. Jesus christ this is dumb. You literally just told them "interesting, but it'd be better if it was uninteresting."

>>89960778
If you meant to draw it wonkily, disregard that bullshit anon's feeding you about straight lines and patience. It's condescending at best.

Kirby, Miller and the like didn't become memorable by drawing realistic scenes.

>>89970566
>good stuff gets ignored
because people struggle to compliment things and find it easier to point out bad parts.
If something posted is good enough theres not much to say about it because its just "this is good"

>ignore pencil work
no

There is just more to talk about on bad art than good art

>>89970686
Yeah, with that background I was trying to emulate Genndy's painting style, and his style is very cartoony, thanks anon.

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>>89931239
How do you get good at art when you hate actually picking up the pencil to try and learn to draw.

It's like I devote hours at a time trying to draw a single shitty figure of a human being. I just want to learn but it'll take years to get half decent at this rate.
Don't say Loomis because I practiced that fucking book and hated it. I can hold a pencil but shit just isn't turning out at all.

>>89970698
I get that, but you don't build a better baseball team by focusing on the 40 year old in AAA, you focus on the young stud.

Nobody is obligated to foster talent but a "good shit, keep it up." to me is better than a "its okay that your stuff isn't even as good as a Newgrounds Stick Figure DBZ episode, keep it up."

It just makes no sense that we softly encourage the terrible artists and writers who place blobs of color in a flat 6-panel layout, and completely ignore people employing any sense of originality or skill.

>>89970849

Maybe art just isn't for you.

>>89970840
Yeah then fuck that other advice. Do you, it looks great.

Not to shit on the other anon but he's confusing stylistic preference with skill. What you posted looks well-executed to me.

>>89970840
Kek this kid took the bait so hard

>>89970922
You're either a fucking idiot or subtly trolling Dewd by supporting him.

>>89970865
I do tell people I like that keep at it, but it tends to be one post while giving criticism on bad posts takes several back and forths.

And for some things people posting shit simply have more material to critique and post more often. Theres some interesting stuff that gets posted but it will be a doodle or a sketch or a premise, not page after page of material.

If you don't mind pulling some attention to them, who have you noticed gets ignored despite being good?

>>89970901
It has to be, I have to be doing something wrong. What am I doing wrong that I can't get any better at this shit right after hours of trying?

I even took art classes. Both general art stuff and figure drawing. Everyone else could speed draw a general figure in 15 seconds but I could only do that if I was making stick figures.

>>89970849
>it will take years
Yep

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>>89962040
>not posting the webcomic along with your mention of Keit-ai.

http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825

>>89970922
Fuck trying to get an artist to improve. The people who do shit like that are real petty human things, y'know? Let's just encourage him to continue wallowing in his own shit, right on.

>>89971029
what bait?

>>89971450
You're not telling someone to improve when you're telling them to change their style. Telling someone to draw straight lines and use "patience" implies they were careless in their execution. This is clearly an intentional style.

So, if by "improve" you mean "ruin"... yeah fuck that.

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>>89960755
This is not how bodies work.

>>89971734
Yeah, It's a cartoon girl, not a realistic one.

>>89972132
Proper stylization requires knowlege of how real bodies work to effectively exagerrate and minimize features to achieve the desired look. This is just a amateurish cluster fuck by a clueless retard.

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>>89968011
I have a lot of suggestions about this page, but the main thing bugging me is how static it looks when you have both characters viewed from the same angle and placed on the same sides so many times. A more creative angle for her song would really break up the monotony.

Also, a criss-crossing, single "ding dong ding" helps draw the imagery of a pendulum and give the song a sense of finality compared to the lump of words in the original version.

I'd also say you should raise the cleft and actually put the last notes on it, as well as lower the speech bubble since it could confuse reading order, but I didn't bother to make those edits.

>>89972456
Stop giving him attention.
He doesn't care about whether he does well or not, he just wants you to pay attention to him.

>>89972731
>how static it looks when you have both characters viewed from the same angle and placed on the same sides so many times.
It's almost like they're standing still

>>89968351
I think the comic is legitimate but the person posting it is a spammer
the person counterspamming is probably a well-meaning autistic kid

>>89971029
it's pretty frustrating but not surprising

>>89971619
I don't know if you're trolling or what, but no. Dewd isn't doing that intentionally. line control and patience are his weak areas. He has no trouble injecting everything he makes with style to spare, so there's no worry about that.
>>89972770
this, however, isn't true either
but when you're being met with six kinds of fuck from every direction, it breaks your immature little brain and makes you try to excuse things with 'it's a cartoon' with the criticism in question was just shitposting with no actual specific problem pointed out.
You'd have to be an idiot not to notice he's improving somewhat, his limbs look like limbs now. The right thing to do there would be to correct the bad proportioning (mostly the stubby torso)

>>89972991
>Statis means the characters aren't moving!

There is a swirling vortex causing ripples to rise up from the ground and bubbles to spawn and spread out through the air. This is not a rigid, tight scene. This is dynamic, wonderous, amazing. And yet, both that and the act of being picked up and squeezed emphatically are portrayed with rigidity and a lack sense for flow or presentation. They're just like every other panel.

If you don't agree, that's fine, but there's no need to passive-aggressively imply characters need to move for the scene to be presented in a more fluid manner. Hell, like I showed in my example, you don't even have to move their relative positioning to break the monotony if you're willing to be a bit more ambitious with your paneling.

>>89973181
I disagree, every movement she has, especially her jumping, is done wonderfully dynamically. his stillness serves as a contrast indicating that he's just stunned by the mindfuckery going on
and of course I'm not that guy, if I was that good I wouldn't feel the need to disagree with incorrect crit.

>>89973289
>his stillness serves as a contrast indicating that he's just stunned by the mindfuckery going on
I...never said he had to stop being still? Hell, he's not still in the original third panel at all, he's looking around wildly, so much so that he nearly 180's. I said the panel composition is repetitive, which undercuts the page.

>and of course I'm not that guy
But I never said or implied you were, what are you even talking about?

>if I was that good I wouldn't feel the need to disagree with incorrect crit.
>"incorrect crit"
>"no, i don't disagree with you, you are OBJECTIVELY wrong because i say so!"

oh christ please tell me im responding to coldfusion and not someone else.

>>89973422
>what are you even talking about?
sorry when I heard " you don't even have to move their relative positioning to break the monotony if you're willing to be a bit more ambitious with your paneling." I thought you might mean 'you' rather than 'one' and wanted to make sure. Wouldn't want anyone to wrongly think it was that guy.
crit is incorrect most of the time, dude. it's okay to disagree with it, you don't have to lose your shit.

>>89973705
>crit is incorrect most of the time
Criticism is analysis or judgement, usually disapproving but sometimes positive, of elements of craft. It is, by nature, subjective. It's just opinions. You can disagree all you want, but no criticism is absolutely correct or incorrect.

Now, please, put your trip back on.

>>89973795
you sure as hell didn't phrase it as if it was your opinion, whereas I did. You clearly confuse the two since you thought I was the one acting like it was objective fact.

>>89973886
Are you going to keep playing the blame game, or can we actually discuss comics with any level of detail? Because I wouldn't even mind you saying stupid shit like "most crit (opinions) are incorrect" if you could actually dissect things and provide the thread with some content.

I mean, seriously, go ahead, let's discuss the relevance of alternative angles and character positioning in relation to the flow of a page and its tone. You're adamant that my opinion is incorrect, so instead of just telling me I'm losing my shit or stonewalling me with a no, why don't you tell us what you think about this topic and why you don't agree with what I've suggested? It'll be more productive than this stupid back-and-forth.

>>89974161
>if you could actually dissect things and provide the thread with some content.
I mean, I do that sometimes too. I don't have anything useful to say on this one though. I explained why I thought your critique was wrong, so we're good. You got to say a thing, I said I disagreed, you lost your shit and gave a bunch of objective-fact supports for it as if it wasn't merely your opinion, I insist those are wrong, but you needn't have said anything other than accepting disagreement.

>>89974273
Okay, we're playing the blame game instead of actually contributing anything to the thread.
Got it.

>>89970849
Start with simpler things to build your internal references. Practice balls and cubes and the like, and make cute doodles out of them. You can have fun while studying the basics, which will in turn help you practice for more complicated figures later.

>>89974430
this is good advice

>>89970849
>How do you get good at art when you hate actually picking up the pencil to try and learn to draw.
>It's like I devote hours at a time trying to draw a single shitty figure of a human being. I just want to learn but it'll take years to get half decent at this rate.
>Don't say Loomis because I practiced that fucking book and hated it. I can hold a pencil but shit just isn't turning out at all.

Look; if you hate the process of making art, then you are doomed to fail just like a person who hates exercise but wants to be fit.

It does take years of practice, you don't just download 'makeart.exe' to your brain and go at it. You have to teach yourself hand/eye/mind coordination and teach your mind how to 'see' the breakdown of proportions/perspectives. Loomis is a starting point not an end point.

Shits not looking the way you want it to? Then find out why. Develop the tools you need to deconstruct the image and problem solve with redlining anatomy structures or using perspective rulers/grides over the art that isn't 'turning out' the way you want. Then do it again and again until it sticks.

Remember, complaining and crying doesn't solve problems, it just convinces you that problems are unsolvable.

>>89973111
But I'm talking about his houses. Literally thats all. I didn't respond to any of his character work. There's serious work to be done in that regard. Those three pictures of the house looked really strong. And he was told, in one of the few instances in which his style ABSOLUTELY worked that he needed to "correct" it.

Maybe he's not very good at character work but could do really well in background work. Would you say Maurice Noble needed to work on his line work and patience?

>>89964916

i uploaded an obscure video of me speedpainting ladaras eyeshadow in this page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN6ecWsvx9A

i dont know why... but here it is anyway lol

>>89968329
its not the real page 10, its just a joke page so i wouldn't take it to seriously senpai

>>89968534
do you have something against me personally or are you just super jealous that any one responds to me at all, because no one responds to you ever on here? whats going on here anon, tell me all about it

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>>89964460
>TFW your comic has no fans because you're still making it

>>89959983
P...Please respond! Or should I just watch episodes of Too Cute and nature documentaries for that?

>>89976826
i dont know much about animals but i find looking up theur skeleton really helps, especially when youre already studying human anatomy
and theres plenty of webms on /an/ for movement study

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>>89970849
Mirroring your images to see flaws really helped me.

Draw on tracing paper, then flip to the other side to see what looks bad, awkward, etc. Go over the drawing and correct it, then flip back to the original side, erase it, and fix any mistakes that are still there. Don't stop until you have something decent, even if it takes 200 flips. Eventually it will sink in, and you won't even have to mirror your drawings.

Also, like >>89974430 said, practice simple construction with easy shapes.

Hey /hyw/, what do you listen to while you work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KELbXO6kpw4

the KH soundtrack is way better than it has any right to be

>>89976826
Nature documentaries would probably be your best bet. Honestly, you should just plan on going to your nearest zoo and spend the day doing life sketches there. It's harder than doing sketches from photos, but you get a better sense of the masses and the movement of the animals.
Also, seconding this >>89976930 . Scientific illustrations of animal skeletons and muscle anatomy are very helpful.

>>89971619
The style may be intentional, but that doesn't mean it's well executed. The colors for the green house are actually very nice and realistic, I'll say that, but the nonsensical windows and bizarre balcony just don't look appealing. The house neither looks convincingly realistic, nor is it stylized well enough to be visually interesting.

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What do you do when someone is giving you advice on things you have already integrated or is on your to-do list?

>>89976930
>>89977455
Thanks, I picked up "The Artist's Guide to Drawing Animals" because it had some very nice skeleton and musculature drawings in it, so glad I'm on the right track there. Fortunately, I'm not interested in anything TOO exotic, so I should be able to find lots of reference materials. Just cats and bats for one comic idea and general suburb animals for the other.

>>89977464
Don't forget to put the first speaker on the left hand side of the panel.

>>89977221

Currently:

>vaporwave/future funk
>trip hop
>lo fi
>bedroom pop
>jazz improv
>midwest emo

Honestly just anything low-key and stimulating without being high-energy.

https://youtu.be/NhheiPTdZCw

>>89977464
In the third panel, you forgot an "a" in the word "what" and it's also spelled "vacuum"

don't forget to proofread, anon

>>89977655
>>89977615
lol, you got me.

>>89976179
I am going to regret this, but I am gonna give a straight answer this one and only time, because I think you deserve it: I hate delusional people who can't be reasoned with, I hate egotistical people, I hate att whores, and you manage to be all of them.

To make it simple, your drawings are bad, but you think they are masterpieces, and when people tried to help you with constructive criticism, you acted like a faggot. I understand your delusion comes from your autism, but that isn't an excuse for your bad behavior.
Meanwhile, the people giving you this ironic positive feedback recently are only feeding your already bloated ego, legitimizing your unwillingness to listen to fair criticism and giving you a pass to continue acting like an asshole, so someone has to take you down a notch and bring you back to reality.
I should make it clear that I am not the only one who does this, however. I watched your bullshit from afar for a few years before you gave me reason to mess with you even. You need to understand all these negative responses you get aren't from one mean douchebag guy out to get you. No, you brought this unwanted attention on yourself by being the douchebag, Bones.

You don't need to try to tell me you are not autistic, by the way, you are only lying to yourself, and this is not the problem anyway.

I hope I made my point clear. Feel free to reply with nothing but one out of the three images you have on your reaction folder and dismiss this response you asked for, I will just add this to the new don't reply to bones collage and move on.

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>>89972731
How do you do your backgrounds? Good ise of colours and nice theory nothing particularly clashes or gets lost I'm so used to working in greys and blacks to create depth I'm bad when it comes to colours.

Things I wanna get better at:
Digitally inking confidently
colouring
speech bubbles.

If anyone can see anything else that I should work on, shoot.

>>89976826
not sure about just poses but I love https://design.tutsplus.com/series/how-to-draw-animals--vector-21311

>>89978495
using a couple of very close shades for the sky might help provide some depth

>>89977464
personal experience? don't say thanks and you already know that. it infuriates people.

>>89978952
>very close shades
can you expand or link to a tutorial?

Art school was shit, it was basically paint something and if you did well, good grade, did bad etc. no actual techniques taught

>>89979125
like a gradient but only for that same blue and then a SLIGHTLY lighter or darker blue. an almost imperceptible gradient can do wonders

>>89978306
You quoted the wrong person, you meant to reply to this retard:
>>89972132

>>89959213
If you refine the character a bit and have that expressive action and comedy in this comic. I'd read this.

Hell if you had a story i'd DRAW this!

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>>89979328
and there i go posting without a picture...
I've been gone for like a couple of days...

>>89979195
I'll give it a try next time!
how do you rate my colouring? I feel my pencils are great but my inks/colours ruin my work haha.

>>89979392
inks are fantastic, at least for fixed-width. there's no mistakes and the lines are all nice shapes
the coloring is just flat coloring, there's really nothing to say about it. Minor shading here and there, done pretty well
I wouldnt shade the fire on her head, but I already figure it's not meant to look like a normal fire

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>>89979474
>I wouldnt shade the fire on her head, but I already figure it's not meant to look like a normal fire

eh I just did it once and liked the way it looked.

Annoying thing is I can do a lot better but it takes more time (posted this before but again as an example of what I can do also)

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>>89966669

heres the real page 10

>>89979392
I think your coloring is very competent, you use your blacks and flat colors well. I think the main thing you could improve on is giving your colors some more mood.
Like in this image >>89979520 I love the bright red of the goat in right in the center of the frame. It pops, the in-your-face brightness of the red feels loud, and silly coupled with the goat sign. But when you scroll down to the characters, they're colored in very neutral hues, neither particularly colorful or dull.
What kind of vibe do you want the characters/story to give off? If you want them to seem very silly and cartoony, a bright, colorful palette would work very well. Say you want to play on cute girls doing cute things in high school, you could make the palette very soft, with lots of warm colors and pastels. Maybe you want to play up the horror of the demon baphomet, you could use high contrast colors with lots of pure black. I dunno, I just think it would be nice if these colors had some more personality to them, whatever that personality might be.

>>89978495

Your inking seems fine, unless you mean being less overly reliant on Ctrl+Z and redrawing lines constantly (but no one ever sees the lines you didn't draw).

For speechballoon shapes, to avoid them being too perfectly oval, you could practice drawing them freehand (which is what I do most of the time), or manually construct them using four anchor points and adjusting the handles. The latter is fiddlier than simply drawing a regular oval, but more flexible.

Regarding speechballoon tails: I think of them as a line that extends from the centre of the balloon outwards, so at the point where they exit the balloon, the angle should be somewhat perpendicular to the edge (or otherwise have the tail describe an arc pointing to the balloon centre).
Balloons 1 and 3 on your page do that, but 2 has the tail at an angle.

For panel 6 of that page, I would suggest changing the dialogue to (note line breaks):

Did...
Did she have
the head of...
an animal?
(It had to be a mask,
right?!)

Three dots in an ellipsis, one question mark.

Though they grabbed a bag in P5, Baph-chan doesn't appear to be holding one in P6 (straps from the left hand should cover it).

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>>89980113
I'm literally writing these down on sticky notes around my computer, thanks man!

>What kind of vibe do you want the characters/story to give off?
I want it to be fairly bright/anime esque, as it's aiming to poke fun and celebrate those kind of cliches.

>Say you want to play on cute girls doing cute things in high school, you could make the palette very soft, with lots of warm colors and pastels. Maybe you want to play up the horror of the demon baphomet, you could use high contrast colors with lots of pure black.

I'd love to be able to incorporate both of these kind of palletes and really mash stuff up into a unique colour look.

>I just think it would be nice if these colors had some more personality to them, whatever that personality might be.
me too man, that's why I'm asking, and thanks for answering.

Here's an example of what I think are much better inks for another comic I did. Lot's of black, but I've shyed away from this because maybe I thought it wasn't tonally right?

>>89980462
i agree this much black suits fu better than baph, but those little gritty detail bits are appropriate in almost anything, even cutesy pokemon have them. the little texture lines like you're using on various surfaces and the demon kid

>>89933561
Just stumbled across this, anon.Just wanted to drop in and mention I'm really digging the atmosphere and artstyle. Keep it up!

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>>89980372
Hey man! Hope you're well! So glad to see you updating experience the magic so often! gonna be at liverpool mcm again?

I'm doing a comic to advertise tipping on tapas, I think these are much better speech bubbles but..how do I ink something like this?

I think you're right with the speech, a lot of the difficulty of this is I'm trying to get this first "origin retellling" out the way so I can tell new stories and I think I'm rushing it without thinking through properly cause I want to get to telling a new story already haha. Gonna save what you suggested and see how it fits and try consider dialogue better.

Seriously thanks for all your helps guys and gals!

>>89980516
I think for my next Baph-Chan I'm going to go back and try re-learn a bit of my thinking when inking Fu and apply it. The main difference is Baph is in a lot more of a man made environment as opposed to Fu. Which Is why I'm having trouble translating it across.

Sorry for hogging the thread

>>89980753
>updating experience the magic so often!
>last update is a month ago
you wha? is there a new site?

>>89980801
Yeah dude! It's on Tapas!
https://tapastic.com/series/EtMotL

I never not at least chuckle at Fili's antics.

>>89980924
wait, these aren't new, right? favourite crayon is more up to date
>>89980798
nah this is good stuff. the threads need this. and i'm glad i can help once in a while