Can Star Trek be considered /co/?

>>89849637

Can Comics & Cartoons be considered /co/?

>>89849661
What did you mean by this?

>>89849661
only if you don't enjoy them.

>>89849637
i mean it has comics and a cartoon series
as long as it doesnt get to sidetracked discussion should be fine

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>that time Kirk played Devil's Advocate for the Devil

>>89849637
Only the comics and the cartoons, of course.

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>klingons with rigged heads in the 2250's

No, I don't want that

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>>89850005
>that time Kirk was a Nazi

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>>89850223
>it's the shitty nuTrek designs
why

>>89849637
The animated series? Sure.
The live-action series and films? No, go to >>>/tv/

>>89850280
Because they won't stop until you like nutrek.

>>89850226
>Sir, if I may say: You make a convincing nazi.

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VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR A HYOO-MON

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>tfw Harlan Ellison never got to write for TAS nor did his original vision of City on the Edge of Forever get made.
>tfw Russell Bates wrote only one episode because Roddenberry was over protective of Star Trek and threw away so many scripts to TOS.
>tfw Russell Bates got Star Trek the only Emmy ever won for TOS crew.
Is there a reason Trekkies defend the trash that is TOS?

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>That time McCoy and Spock fought Romans

>>89850841
Legacy mostly
Everyone knows DS9 is best trek

>>89851032
Ave, true to Caesar.

>>89850841
>>tfw Harlan Ellison never got to write for TAS nor did his original vision of City on the Edge of Forever get made.
they made a graphic novel version of it, it's pretty good

>>89851090
This

>>89851090
DS9 is the best overall, TOS is second best

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>>89851276
Harlan also wrote about his experience with Paramount, Roddenberry, and how he wrote the damn thing.
>>89851090
I like TNG more. It's a more comfortable show to watch.

>>89851404
Lord no it's not. TOS is out-and-out boring trash for large stretches of its run. TOS is only second best if you only judge based on the very best episode in the series, because outside of those episodes it's a whole giant pile of nothing
DS9 > TNG > Good TOS > Enterprise > Bad TOS > Voyager

>>89851090
Is everyone polarized about DS9? Around here people say it's the best quite often, but nobody I knew got into it, and I remember trying to watch it back when it was new a few times and it didn't really stick with me.

>>89851633
DS9 suffers from the same thing that hampered early TNG
By season 3 everyone had settled in and really found their own voice, and started working in earnest to make DS9 into its own thing

>>89851812
I'm probably going to marathon it and give it another chance. Hopefully it's on netflix or something.

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>>89850223
>those are Klingons

By Kahless, this a dishonor.

>>89851864
All the treks are on netflix
Once the Dominion gets involved, DS9 is the best trek by a country mile, and Sisko is far and away the best captain even is he does overact

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how did we go from this

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>>89852022
to this?

>>89849637
How did we go from on-topic...

>>89852022
>>89852033
...to off-topic?

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>>89852054
because you're a faggot

>>89850619
>heavy breathing
which episode was this

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>>89852054

Technically it's on-topic as a comic explains how Khan underwent cosmetic surgery.

>>89852033
Alternate reality

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>>89852168
Mudd's Passion

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>>89852264

>>89851930
That final episode tho....that disappointing conclusion to the pa'wraith story....

>>89852388

>They completely forgot the "Bajor joining the federation" plot

>>89851633
DS9 is fantastic. TNG is the only Trek that's on it's level.

>>89852388
Any worse than the TNG finale being a stupid fucking Q episode?

>>89852447
What are you talking about? TNG's finale was great.

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How much would the very idea of the Green Lanterns piss off Picard?

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>>89852793

>>89852793

Depends. If it's one of the really old ones, he might archeology sperg to them.

>>89850841

"You know. 1966? 79 episodes, about 30 good ones."

I'm not going to defend the entire thing. A lot of TOS is bad. At the same time, I think you have to take things on their own terms. TOS is interesting to me because it's so obviously experimental TV. It's neat to watch something that would almost become a genre unto itself being set up by people who were obviously just desperately improvising a show. And sometimes it even managed to work.

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>>89849637
OMFG, seriously? Why did they feel the need to add some furry bitch? I didn't watch Star Trek so low class sluts could steal Uhura's screen time.

I watched Star Trek because I shipped her and Spock. FFS.

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Just going to leave this here.

>>89851930
>Once the Dominion gets involved, DS9 is the best trek by a country mile
kek. It's usually said that they ruined the show.

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>That time Q sent Janeway into the past and turned her into a Triceratops for a laff

>>89858043
By people who haven't watched it, maybe.

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>>89858147
We're still running with this, huh?

>>89858325
Still?

>>89858363
There were a couple threads some time ago where people started this headcanon that General Zera was actually Captain Janeway (since she is also voiced by Kate Mulgrew).

>>89858147
Should we send a link of that thread in an email to Katherine Mulgrew?

>>89858489
I think she'd be deeply disturbed since it segued into a fantasy of Zera engaging in a sexual relationship with a human slave

>>89858526

I'm sure she's been exposed to plenty of Janeway/Seven fantasies before.

>>89858552
That doesn't mean she wants it sent to her, y'know

>>89858489
Please don't do anything to discourage her from voicing more cartoons. I want to hear more of her, not less.

>>89850509
So much for that talk of not going on the NuTrek Timeline.

What did Spock do to their timeline.

A Goldfish Jim

What?

I dumped a Tank of Goldfish into their primordial soup.

Well... that explains things.

>>89858617
I kinda love her voice.

>>89851864
The show has to be marathoned. When it was airing one new episode a week with hiatuses between seasons it was harder to follow all the continuity of the show and given how character driven the show was, the character development was subtle. Also if you missed an episode chances are you missed something important in later seasons.

Not that you should skip the early seasons.

The show did an excellent job establishing the relationships between characters in early seasons, especially Jake and Sisko, Kira and Odo, Quark and Odo, Dax and Sisko, to name a few and the characters that didn't mesh got worked on like with O'Brien and Bashir not liking each other at the start and Bashir being a shit in general at the start of the show and growing out of it.

>>89858489
She's been in an Adult Swim parody show. Doubt anything done here could phase her.

>>89859639
Not to worry, I won't skip seasons if the early stuff is too dry. I hate feeling like I'm missing parts of a story.

>>89859655
She was? A Robot Chicken sketch or something?

>>89849637
Fuck no.
Spock idioto

>>89858617
Have you ever seen "Trekkies"? She already knows about Star Trek porn, but keeps going to conventions.

>>89860946
I haven't. She was bound to know about that much, at least.

>>89859789
NTSF:SD:SUV::

A parody crime show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbCWYm7B_B4

>>89849637
>Spock is more yellow than Sulu

>>89851528
Enterprise is nowhere near better than anything Star Trek has to offer except maybe the latest movies. Voyager is leagues better than Enterprise.

>>89852758
It's one of the best Q episodes, right up there with the series premier and the Borg one.

what was the in universe explanation for the Kingons looking different in TOS and Next Generation?

>>89861297
Klingons tried to make their own Khans and fucked up, and the only cure had some side effects.

>>89852793
Since they rule over a post-Warp semi-civilized galaxy, not hugely.

>>89861333
So we've got just the ones with facial hair. The ones with the known ridges which came to be thought of as the standard (ones from TOS were mutants or altered spies or something)

Now these guys who look more like Tolken orcs or something out of Riddick.

I think the designs could work for something, but not Klingons.

The black pointy armor doesn't fit the aesthetic of known Klingons well.

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What did you think happened to the crew of the Enterprise E after Nemesis /co/? What awesome adventures did Cpt Picard, Cdr Madden and co get up to?

>>89861131

That's because Asians aren't actually "yellow", and Spock is actually a very light green.

>>89860946
knowing about star trek porn doesn't equal being sent porn where she's a triceratops that sexually abuses prisoners of war, man

>>89852022
>>89852033

Because JJ just didnt give a shit. Nu TREK was created on the basis that created Voyajerks and Enterprise: That Star Trek fans have such low standards that they'll take anything shat into their mouths with the TREK stamp on it and not only like it, but beg for more

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>>89849637
>Can Star Trek be considered /co/?
Yes.

>>89852294
tfw...
> no more cartoons or tv shows with her
> no action figures or comics

why?

>>89862252
The amount of people going "well it's something." over this shambling mess makes me sad.

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>>89858147

>>89862431
I'm particularly butthurt over shippers. Kirk and Spocked INVENTED slash in the west, yet somehow most of the newcomers to this aspect of the franchise just... stick to the movies. Like, I get it they see TOS and for some godforsaken reason decide they like nuTrek better, but someone saying shit like "the relationship of Kirk and Spock is fundamentally the same in both versions" shows such a basic lack of understanding that it makes me rage.

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>>89851878

>>89862678
Well least she isn't a space salamander again. And fugging.

She's still a absentee mother. Eh she probably nuked the planet or something. She'd shoot the lizard kids I'd they showed up probably.

>>89862775
They probably black hole'd that planet.

>>89861802
They used a yellow makeup base with a bit of a green tint to it on TOS

>>89862730
I hate when stuff is tagged as both

They're not the same!

>>89863524
And it's always fic written with nutrek in mind, it's never the other way around.

So what are the best Trek comics? Don't really mind which era but would prefer TOS as Bones is the best

>>89850223
>Have neat compromise with Kilngon's having Helmets/Masks with the ridges in 2009 Abrams Trek
>Nothing else in that timeframe uses it.

>>89863851
Occasionally I see something that's clearly TOS tagged as both to get more hits but that's less common

>>89863882
The DC books from the 80s and early 90s seem pretty good

>>89849637
/co/ has the best Star Trek threads.
Just stick with the comics and cartoons with the characters, there are plenty of comics.

What gets me about this new show is that there are so many species that could be more fleshed out, like the gorn, andorians, and the breen, but we get this shit

>>89850841
It's an incredibly important series for Western culture. Not just for TV, but for technology, and multiculturalism.

Also, when you're studying Shakespeare, it is a blast to see all of the similar writing techniques Roddenberry uses.

Plus, it's just fun watching the low budget magic, and how the friends think their way out of situations.

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Aw neat, I get to post this again!

And yes, I have considered making a shorter version, but I'm very lazy.

>>89864397
Nice, thanks minifig

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the lack of M'ress is this discussion disappoints me, what happen to you /co?

>>89866197
Got scale fever

>>89849637

it's closer to /tv/ but I guess discussion animation and comics for start trek is fine.

>>89864397
I know /co/ hates Byrne but his Trek stuff IS good.

>>89865110
Hoch QaQ

>>89863356
Because Vulcans have green blood. Gotta Admire Gene for keeping it real.

>>89851276
>graphic novel version

Is the art actually decent? I'm always weary of "graphic novel adaptations" of movies and tv shows.

>>89851633
I'm just confused why it doesn't get marathoned to hell on TV like the other series do.

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>>89866197
because she looks fucking retarded

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>>89867279
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffFUCK YOU ANON DON'T TALK SHIT 'BOUT MAH KITTYBOOBOO

>>89867101
It was alright

There was a letter from Ellison that said he really liked the adaptation

>>89867279
all characters from that cartoon look retarded anon...

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>>89867074
yeah, it makes sense

it did seem a little weird that they gave a yellow/green skinned character with green blood soft pink lips though

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>catposting again

>>89867554
no they don't.

Her eyes are in different directions

>>89866826
Even the photonovels? I flicked through one in the LCS a while back and it was a fucking eyesore

>>89869107
she spend years and years in a spaceship surrounded by males in heat, the eye split is a biological defense sistem

>>89869483
even if those somehow had good writing the weird photoshop art creeps me out

>>89852407
No they didn't.

>>89869640
>she spend years and years in a spaceship surrounded by males in heat
there was only one and that was only every few years

>>89867133

While DS9 is very good it never made the leap into pop culture like the original series or TNG. It never entered the cultural zeitgeist.

Voyager and Enterprise also failed in that regard (in additional their other repeated failures)

>>89871800
Probably because TOS and TNG had better casts of characters.

DS9 was better at balancing the huge extended cast.

Voyager was under a network mandate to rehash TNG after being pitched a show for something completely new.

Ent was pitched as a rehash as TOS and one of the two guys most heavily involved in the show was so obsessed with time travel plots he made a show about one.

>>89871800
that's BS. DS9 is loved by many fans of the show, it's just as popular as TNG. There is some criticism over it being a rip off of Babylon 5 (which is right), but other than that people loved the over arching plot.

For me, why it still lags behind TNG is the actors. In TNG the characters that don't get much development, like Riker and Jordie, are still playing by amazing shakespearian actors. It also helped that they went behind the camera and directed a lot of the show, they were very invested. In DS9 the best actors were from TNG, Colm Meany and Dorn (the captain was great too). But other than that, and Quark, the rest were pretty blande actors

>>89871991
Odo's actor is the most experienced actor on the show.

>>89867279
Besides, no one can top Nichelle Nichols as the de facto sex symbol of Star Trek.

>>89873469

Jennifer Lien

>>89873572
You might want to Google search her. She looks like something you'd find face down in a heroin den toilet. She's also serving prison time for child abuse, iirc.

>>89873469

>not wanting to taste the pussy's puss

normies...

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>>89866197

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>>89874770

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>>89867279
No she's a cat.

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>>89873469
Jeri Ryan took that a long time ago

For all of the talk about everything except ST:TAS, one of its episodes sticks in my memory as a testament to the fact that Gene did try to continue addressing subjects that would otherwise be considered taboo in prime-time television, let alone Saturday morning cartoons: "Jihad."

To take on the subject of religious extremism, including incitement to war in the name of religion, was not a popular subject. The fact that the show managed to address it, even on the small scale that it did, was always impressive to me. (And, yes, I saw it back then. I'm old. So there.)

How many kids who saw the show had to ask an adult what jihad was or look up the definition of jihad after that episode?

The showrunners of ST:TAS did a great job of balancing entertainment with meaningful stories. On a Saturday morning cartoon. On NBC, in 1973. That makes it prime /co/.

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>>89874980
STTAS is pretty underrated

sure the animation was garbage but the writing was fine

also reminder that there was always a second giant Spock out there

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>>89874366
Uhura is the ORIGINAL Trek Space Chick. I don't want just a mere taste, I want to bury my face in that puss. Think of all the queef dialects it knows!!!

>>89874812
I thought she hated S&M stuff. Isn't that why she divorced her husband and torpedoed his political career?

>>89858147
That'd make a slightly good fanfic

>>89875596
she hated going to swinger clubs. She never said anything about bondage

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>>89874800
Photoshopped a comic and it suddenly shows up again on its own five months later. Huh.

We still could use more Caitians of the M'Ress style. Whenever they brought them back lately, they either just stuck tails on regular humans (Into Darkness) or intentionally avoided the big 70s hair (ST Online).

>>89874812
>if Jerry Ryan didn't expose her husband as a cuck, he would have beaten Obama for senate in 2004
>if Obama lost senate race, he would never be president

The little things the world turns on.

>>89876160
>if Obama hadn't won, never would have run for president
>Hillary would have won in 2008
>we'd be living in a post apocalyptic nuclear hellscape now

Really dodged a bullet, thanks 7

>>89876244
McCain would have stomped Hillary.

And he would have started WWIII.

>>89876160
I think about that from time to time. The reason we had Barack Obama was thanks to Seven of Nine.

>tfw downloaded Star Trek Online on my PS4 for shits and giggles
Its so fucking bad man. If it weren't for the fact that its Star Trek I wouldn't be able to tolerate how bad it is.

>>89876267
And by extension, the reason we have trump, by forcing Hillary to run again in 2016

>>89873965
>>89873572
It is kinda amazing how Voyager is the only time she's ever been remotely attractive. Being made a Space Pixie does wonders I guess.

>>89875306
>but the writing was fine

Didn't they get actual Sci-Fi novelists at the time to contribute plots?

>>89876512
I think so, I know Larry Niven wrote an episode

I think they did that for TOS itself too though?

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>>89876652
He didn't write an episode, he reworked one of his stories (The Soft Weapon) into "The Slaver Weapon". More fur bait in the Kzinti.

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F

>>89881643

>Animated series
>Chekov

I don't understand.

I can't believe this thread has gone on this long without anyone posting this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXWEM4gZhg4

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>>89881845

>>89881643
What might have been if Paramount had given Filmation more than $20 and some S&H Green Stamps per episode to make the series.

>>89881643
At least he got to write an episode

>>89881643
So will the animates predict the future and will Chekov be replaced by E.T.'s weird uncle.

>>89876408
Yea if Obama had just taken position as her Veep back in '08 then he'd be President right now. Weird.

>>89876160
If Jeri Ryan being Jeri Ryan doesn't turn you on then I have news for you. She is magic and gives a boner to both men and women, and the fact that she is so sweet about it adds another layer

>>89881862
god, this album was so good. You may not get it from this song but this album gets fucking dark. There is a song about finding his wife after she committed suicide. and there is also a great song with Henry Rollins. 10/10 album

I have really high hopes for ST D, after the casting it looks like they are going in the right direction. It's a real release to me after the stupid JJ Trek

>>89883447

I wish I could share your optimism.

>>89883447
I was pretty bummed about Fuller leaving but I'll still give it a shot

>>89883811
he didn't leave, he's still a producer. But if he can put the right people in the right places, that's all he would have done in the first place.

>>89884613
>he didn't leave
"I’m not involved in production, or postproduction" - Bryan Fuller

>>89864075
Blame normies

>>89857726
Because it was the 70's, pre-Cheetarah starting the furry craze. Believe it or not, cat-people weren't that widely used at this point. And if they were, they usually served as bumbling sidekicks for the "Hank Handsome: Space Adventurer" stand-in.

>>89883447
Nah I can't. Everything I've seen I can't say they know what they are doing.

Planning it out during the height of the boarder disputes and skirmishes with Klingons has promise but not enough for me to want their digital service for one show.

>>89875670
more like a slightly great fanfic

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>>89849637
>TFW Star Trek cartoon never had this crossover.

>>89887672
Star Trek is silly but not that silly

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This guy's finned helmet is silly, at least.

>>89889192
Are those the comics where the artists/writers barely knew what Star Trek was?