All New Wolverine #17

>>89775153
WOH MY GOD
WHO
THE HELL
CAWES

>>89775153
W/OLVERI/NE

>>89775153
well, I'll always read some gambit

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>>89775354
This

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Poetry

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The end. Thanks for reading.

>>89775566 Black Widow #11

Did... did they just actually, finally, really REALLY get rid of Trigger Scent as a plot device?

Oh please please please, let this be actually a thing and not snatched away from us in the next chapter

>>89775749
>Did... did they just actually, finally, really REALLY get rid of Trigger Scent as a plot device?
I hope

> xavier and emma around forever when laura joined up
> couldn't remove trigger programming in a split-second because reasons
> suddenly muh young jean can
my jimmies are all over the floor

>>89775267
Wait, couldn't Xavier have fixed this with mindfuckery if mindfuckery could have cured Laura of her trigger scent?

>>89775374
Is Nick Fury flying in this page?

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>>89775935
>because reasons

Maybe it's something like Emma couldn't remove the programming directly, but Jean and Gabby helped Laura find the inner strength to overcome it? Or something else saccharine like that?

She DID overcome the programming once on her own before during that thing in Paris with Jubes.

>>89776349
I think.

>>89776388
Or maybe Young Jean doesn't give a fuck about pulling some deeply woven memory out of Laura's head.

>>89776388
I guess it's because they actually went into her mind during the trigger rather than in her normal state. Made it possible to actually fuck with the trigger in her head.

>>89775203
This

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>>89776521
>Laura no longer remembers her mom reading to her
>becomes emotionally cold and distant toward Gabby because she can no longer relate to her as a surrogate daughter
>this leads to the eventual falling out between Laura and Gabby that led to them killing each other, as Old Logan talked about

If only. But nah they wouldn't have the balls to do this

>>89775749
I bloody hope so. Trigger scent increases the idiocy of the passive victim narrative that makes Laura and Logan's origins so incredibly boring.

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>>89777659
or no, alternatively:
>Laura no longer remembers her mom reading to her
>learns through others later that the memory was removed by Jean
>becomes resentful toward Gambit, Gabby, Warren, and Jean for robbing her of her only comforting childhood memory
>feels betrayed by her only friends and detaches completely from her support structure and other humanizing influences
>eventually becomes a full-on psychopath like Kimura and commits horrible crimes
>Gabby has to put Laura down like a rabid dog and then an heroes for her role in turning Laura into a monster
>last page shows Old Man Logan knocking down Gabby's tombstone

Maybe as a What If...? tale?

>>89775528
Thank you!

>>89775267

>"Stay out of my head, Jean."

Laura, you might as well ask a waterfall not to fall. Ask the sun not to rise. Ask a bird not to fly. Fucking with peoples' heads and invading their privacy is literally who Jean IS.

>>89775153
>OP says Jean is in the comic
>spoilers on >>89775267 anyway

Preacher anon, you're losing your touch!

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>>89775473

DID SOMEONE SAY "SEX RIGHT NOW???"

>>89778810
>OOOH YEAH!!

oh god my sides

>>89778419
You Welcome anon.

>>89778726
>Preacher anon, you're losing your touch!
Clone Saga is driving me crazy.

>>89778894

Context!

http://unxannyrewrites.tumblr.com/post/156003344353/be-sure-to-check-out-the-feature-film-coming-out

>>89775528
thank fuck they finally got rid of the trigger scent. should have done this two years ago

>>89775528
Nice variant. Symbiotic fags are gonna love it!

Thanks OP. Always enjoy a comic I don't have to pay for.

>>89779217
No kidding! Finally some plots that don't involve gratuitous sadism and passive victimhood being the main plot elements.

>>89775517
Damn, this was nicely done.
The Pinocchio narrative over Laura being freed from the forces that controlled her was a great touch for what is otherwise an almost pedestrian occurrence for 616.
Also Gabby geting stabbed and being utterly unconcerned about it is damn cool.
"Yeah, so I was mortally wounded by my big sis. Things went better than expected. I still have clothes left to have holes in."

>>89776707
Probably this. They had to get maximum invasive and didn't try to eliminate the programming but help her in breaking out on her own. It's still there, kinda. But it apparently isn't an absolute force but a traumatic conditioning that abuses a fear response of retreating into her unconscious. So they gave her a maximal incentive to fight back through her motherly protection instinct, and Jean went in deep to assist and coax her out by being the little shit she is, overcoming the fear response of Laura's consciousness by making her angry.
Xavier could never have been enough of a cunt to do this.

>>89779569
>Thanks OP. Always enjoy a comic I don't have to pay for.
This

>>89776349
He's doing the good ol' *teleports behind you*

>>89781273
And the "standing on air" technique. Fury is just a straight-up Bleach character in this comic, I guess.

>>89781288
He stands behind Angel on the open ramp.
The thing extends to the upper tip of the heck, meaning it's pretty long when swung down and extends pretty far out.
No idea how he snuck up ( maybe some corner to the side of the ramp), but he has at least a yard of ramp left behind him.
Which is still crazy dangerous, but possible.

>>89775294
Isn't Jean still in the room?

>>89776388
Wait, Kimura actually has similar tragic background like laura ? than why the fuck does she like to fuck around with laura so much ?

>>89775374
Fuck you, Fury.

I personally think this arc will going into the hero must give up the chance to have better life in order to do and protect people they love story type.

What will happen is that Laura is happy to be cure now but later Kimura capture her aunt and cousin and laura is force into goning berserk again so she can save them

>>89781855
I think she left.

>>89781891
because she has similar tragic background like laura

>>89781891
Because when she's tormenting Laura, she's not alone anymore. It's the greatest love story of all.

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Guys... now that Trigger Scent is kill, what are the chances that Kimura herself doesn't survive this arc?

Granted, it's Marvel and god forbid we ever kill any recurring villian, but... there's just so many things around them that can take out Kimmy. She can fall in the water and drown. Gambit can stick his fingers in her mouth and charge her from the inside. Jean can psychically lobotomize her or give her a heart attack or stroke.

What are the chances, guys? Is it wrong of me to hope?

>>89775517
that nigger is not SGT FURY

>>89783380
Or Ultimate Fury

>>89781891
Cycle of abuse, anon.

>>89776207
Emma went on record saying it wasn't possible.

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>>89779217
>>89779712
It's nice that it's gone, but this comic still impresses me by how it leaves absolutely no impact on me even when interesting things are happening. The entire narrative moves too fast. Everything is resolved instantly and effortlessly. There is no stake, no threat, the big damocles sword of the trigger scent that's been terrorizing her since her creation has been taken away in a single one-off issue because Jean had half an hour free.
It's unsatisfying and weirdly unemotional.
As always it's not a terrible issue, but it's not a good one either.
This book fails to make me care for its protagonist and when even plots as fundamental to her character as this one fall flat, it just ends up making me feel indifferent.

Lastly, it feels like in terms of her personality, this book is only ever taking things away. It doesn't add new things to a character it just subtracts them and while the trigger was a terrible dumb-ass plot device, some of her other character traits that made her more unique are now lost with nothing in return save for a single supporting character and a pet. Both of which also just hang around and exist without leaving much of an impact.

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>>89778810
Another Edit.

>>89776207
Yes, Laura's reaction to Trigger Scent is entirely psychological. But I don't think he's actually had any alone time with her.

>>89784708
>This book fails to make me care for its protagonist and when even plots as fundamental to her character as this one fall flat, it just ends up making me feel indifferent.

This seems to be happening a lot with marvel and the legacy héroes.

>>89782961
lel no. What world do you live in?
This whole comic they're harping on about how the All-New Wolverine doesn't kill over and over
it'll be like the Deadpool scene, Laura will have Kimura at her mercy and wants to kill her but Warren will talk her down, you'll see
And then SHIELD will arrest her.

>>89785816
Xavier didn't have an hour to spare one day?

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>>89785704
I still want the sauce of the last panel.

>>89786000
Artists name is SHADE.

>>89784708
What things is it subtracting?

>>89785997
Well, the following year House of M happened, which caused him to lose his powers. Then he got kicked out of the X-Men during Deadly Genesis, went to space to fight Vulcan and got his powers back, went back to Earth and got shot which put him in a coma, woke up with a little amnesia, went on a badass journey to reconnect with some people, got caught by Norman Osborn, then chilled on Utopia for a bit while Laura was mostly at the X-Force base.
Then he died from a case of Bendis during AvX.

>>89785997
He did, but he had no trigger scent to use on Laura to get into her head while raging out

>>89775347
>>89775359
>'I thought you said S.H.I.E.L.D. was powerless'
>'Powerless to HELP you, not punish you'

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>>89786000

>>89775935
>because reasons
Character development.

The idea is that Laura wasn't emotionally\mentally\whatever mature\strong enough to overcome it back then, and now she is because she build relationships and shit

>>89780533
>Xavier could never have been enough of a cunt to do this.
!!!!!!

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>>89786986

>>89787662
which story is this from ?

>>89775153
>you're gay

Damn /co/ and it's subliminal messages trying to turn me gay.

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>>89788362
>/co/ and it's subliminal

>>89788152
from Bendis Uncanny Xmen #600.

>>89775219
>>89775241
What's the explanation for the bun?

>>89788497
some sort of meta commentary on how the artist draws everyone with a harelip?

>>89789350
Made me chuckle

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>>89787566
Also Emma introduced herself to Laura by mindraping her with visions of her dead mother and Laura hated Emma and refused to let her into her mind after that.

If Emma tried to do some kind of therapy Laura would probably have flipped out even harder

>pivotal development in Laura's characterization
>featuring this garbage artist

Just look at this fucking monster face on Laura in >>89775241

What happened to her being a 3.14 cutie?

>>89791195

It's probably because Marcio Takara (the guy who did a lot of issues previously and made her QT too) left back to draw Laura's DC equivalent: Cassandra Cain.

>>89777659
>>89777863
>>89782961
Are you okay anon

>>89784379
And Emma is known to be a self serving cow and likely wanted to keep a weapon on hand.

>>89781957
Nick Jr needs to go sit in the corner for a bit with the rest of the kids.

>>89775401
Pfft your dad could have taken that shit down with a pistol and a knife, while shirtless. You're a shit Nick Jr.

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>>89792166
Emma honestly never seemed to believe Laura could stop being a weapon, and most of their interactions were her trying to tear Laura down and kick her out of the school.

With that kind of attitude, is it any wonder she failed at deprogramming Laura?

>>89775241
The little kid got me a laugh there

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>>89793093

>>89792292
I'm ok with that, pops was starting to become OP. I think the older you get in comics the more powerful you become

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>>89793204

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>>89792240
>>89792292
>>89793246
What's the deal with this Nick Jr thing? Is this character not the actual Nick Fury? This whole time I thought they just retconned the comic version to a black dude because pic related happened

>>89793299

Then she took away the only happy memory Kimura ever had.

>>89793848
In the ultimate universe Nick Fury was based on Samuel Jackson, even before that was a thing in the movies.
After the movies they intrduced 616 Fury black son also known as Nick Fury Jr.
I dont know how things work now after secret wars.

>>89793849
Was that for Laura's sake though, or because Kimura had just tortured one of her students until she was a puddle, and then idiotically wandered around the Institute with a sniper rifle?

>>89794330
Ah, I see. Thanks.
>his black son with an identical eye injury and eye patch
At least they tried.

>>89794383

Probably a little of both.

All New Bumpverine

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>>89791304
But marvel still have plenty of great artists that can draw laura pretty and right, why not let them draw ?

>>89794912
They're busy with more important projects like Mosiac or Inhumans vs X-Men

>>89794800
This

>>89793299

this reads like an older hot woman hating a younger hot woman.

>>89796590

>>89796653
>older hot woman
Canonically those aren't Emma's natural hairs, face, or tits, so maybe she IS jealous

>>89789771
Lemme guess: Laura caught on when deadmom called her X-23 instead of Laura, right?

>>89796786
What happened to her? Burn victim? Car accident? Born ugly as shit?

>>89796946
Dyes her hair
Nose job
Boob job

>>89796946

no, she just got a nose job and a boob job, that info was forcedfully taken from her mind by Jean, when she got mad with Emma after finding her having a telepathic affair with Cyclops.

although, to be fair, Jean later resurrected her, and made Cyclops choose her instead of just becoming a retired sad fuck depressed alcoholic widower after Jeans dead.

>>89794568
Good

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>>89796847
Ding ding ding!

>>89798705
>Panel 1
Give someone your keys, Laura, you are too anime to drive.

Nightbump.

>>89802606

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Now that Gambit has shown up in Laura's book, when will Jubilee get a shot?

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>>89798705
>>89801981
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>>89806989
>fuckyou,baka.png

>>89806989
Thank you.

>>89806931
Never. She's too busy playing with her adopted baby.

I like this comic.

I actually like this book. I enjoy Taylor's writing?

>>89796653
After what happened to her students in Genosha and with the the Purifiers in the mansion she doesnt look foward to see other of her students getting butchered cause one of Lauras trigger scent shit.
But i guess both reasons arebt mutually exclusive.

>>89812003
>I like this comic.
Same

>>89795440

This sadly.

>>89813318
Yup

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ENEMY OF THE STATE II CONCLUDES! With her allies at her back, WOLVERINE will face off against her oldest enemy…one last time. It's LAURA versus KIMURA, and only one will walk away. Guest starring ANGEL, GAMBIT, NICK FURY and MORE!

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ALL-NEW STORY STARTS HERE! "IMMUNE"! FROM THE STARS COMES DEATH! An alien ship! A dying passenger! Two words uttered that will forever change WOLVERINE's life — starting a non-stop race against a deadly transformative disease, a battle in a quarantined city and a mysterious villain with a target on her head.

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>Two words uttered that will forever change WOLVERINE's life

you're adopted

Thanks for the storytime Preacher Anon, but this pretty much cements what the biggest problem for this title is. Well, three of them. The first is that Laura doesn't really feel like the character she once was. Having people call her Laura, reference her X-23 years of have Kimura show up doesn't really change that. This is probably due to the second issue. This second issue is consequences or rather a lack of them. See, one of the most interesting things about Laura is that she is a weapon who is trying to be human. But because she is so socially inept, her history and her enemies, she is a ticking timebomb. And when she explodes, there are consequences for everyone involved. Her, her friends and her family. No one comes out unscathed when she loses control.

Or at least that was the case. Now, there are really no real consequences to her actions. The person she killed while drugged? That was LMD. She is berserk? Gabbie calms her down and her boyfriend, Jean and Gambit sort out her issues with herself and the rest of the community.

See what I mean. No goddamn consequences. That is what originally made Laura so interesting. It was that all this shit happened to her and she felt it. But, she never gave up. That was what made her interesting. Not her adventures, Laura herself. It's something Taylor doesn't seem to understand.

>>89818334
Ah, shit forgot the third problem. That one is her original cast doesn't show up or in some case, even get a mention beyond a quick cameo.

*Cough*New X-Men and the Kinneys*Cough*

>>89812359
>and with the the Purifiers in the mansion she doesnt look foward to see other of her students getting butchered cause one of Lauras trigger scent shit.
Man it's a good thing the purefiers weren't able to kill all her students... Good thing someone was the to save them

>>89818402
>That one is her original cast doesn't show up or in some case, even get a mention beyond a quick cameo.
Speaking of original cast, what happens to laura in secret empire? She and Steve have a different sort of history

>>89815859
Kimura not in her not-power girl top and stupid Gambit headgear looks wrong

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>>89818851
Boob windows are too lewd for 2017, anon. They're degrading to women and Kimura thinks it's important to be a strong female role model who isn't sex objects for men. That's why she made herself the new costume.

But, for you, she put a patch on her chest that has a similar triangle shape and is sort of skin-colored, you'll have to be satisfied with that.

>>89818402
Who from her original cast is even left alive to show up now? Other than Kimura and her aunt and cousin, isn't everyone else already dead at Laura's own hands?

>>89815859
>It's LAURA versus KIMURA, and only one will walk away

They're teasing this shit like Kimura's gonna die, but all it means is she'll be taken away by S.H.I.E.L.D. and return another day.

>>89819687
Well, we have Betsy, the NYX kids haven't been used in a while but we know that they are alive. The New X-Men could easily be used. Seriously, Mecury, Surge, Hellion and Elixir have so much crap that they need to sort out with Laura at the moment. So do the AA kids now that I think about it.

But then again having Laura actually face her mistakes would actually give her conflicts where she isn't blameless, something that Taylor seems to be against.

>>89821748

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>>89820695
Sorry, I thought by 'original cast' you mean the characters that were introduced as part of Laura's backstory or her solo run.

Yeah, the New X-Men kids and Laura really do need some more time together. Last I remember she and Surge weren't on the best of terms, and she dumped Hellion like a total bitch. We gotta have an obligatory fight between Angel and Hellion, come to think of it.

And damn, Hazmat! That's gonna be a weird moment.
>I'm so sorry I stabbed you
>I'm sorry I melted your face into crispy bacon
>It's fine. I was not permanently damaged
>I forgive you, I went kablooie but I didn't die somehow
>*they stand there awkwardly*

>>89819883
Agreed

>>89823031
Have we even seen Hazmat since undercover?

>>89819883
I'd personally prefer it if Kimura started going after Emma Frost. I'm not sure if her memories have come back yet but Kimura was unstable as fuck after removing Kimura's only good memories.(Really stupid idea to take the one thing stopping a person from being even more psychotic from them.)Weapon X has shields that can block Xavier. She can totally channel all of that spite towards Emma for a few issues.
The page even shows that Kimura lives for revenge so I have no idea why the hell Kimura hasn't gone full military strike upon Emma Frost by now.
>>89823031
The Kinney's coming back would terrify me. As long as they don't show up they have a relatively happy ending. If they do show up we all know it's probably going to be a bloodbath and remove the one former relationship she has not defined by murder and violence.
Sure there was lots of that in the mini but the Kinneys actually know Laura as a person first. Everyone else knows her as X-23, TRIGGER SCENT, and so forth before reaching her underlying personality. I feel like I'm explaining it really badly but they're the only group she didn't put up barriers or pretenses around. She's guarded with everyone else to at least some degree with her interactions.
Jubilee might be an exception to this since she doesn't seem to be able to formulate canned responses to Jubilee's jubilicity.

>>89824877
Emma always has an entourage of really powerful mutants around her. Unlike Laura the Loner who usually hangs out by herself or around a few humans/negligent mutants.

>>89825006
There are always opportunities for Emma to forget she's made multitudes of enemies. She was willing to wait months to get a crack at Two Lauras at once.

>>89824802
Maybe she died from the terrigen cloud.

Shoulda kept that sealed suit on!

>>89825857

https://youtu.be/gKanJ0SDRSE

>>89784708
As soon as I saw Jean come into frame I just thought, "welp, looks like she's just going to magically wrap up the Trigger Scent problem this issue, even though Emma couldn't do it and said that it was probably impossible."
It just feels like, 'This happens, then this happens, then this happens, then this happens, then this happens, then this happens, then the issue ends.'
Like, why not have Kimura get into the facility and start popping SHIELD AGENTS? Have her about to rip Warren's face off, and Laura comes in and stops her? Fucking ANYTHING!

>>89827211
Anon, you're getting All New Wolverine confused with Laura's old books. Those books were all about doom and gloom and moping and cutting and people choking on their blood as they died. In those old books Kimura crushing a few skulls would have fit in wonderfully.

This is the All New Wolverine! A fun romp about the hijinks of Laura and her animal companions, funny little girl sidekicks, and her supportive boyfriend that saves her when she needs him the most! There's no place for scenes of gore and guts spilling on the floor!

And that's why the Trigger Scent and Kimura have to go.

>>89829002
I know you're being sarcastic and all, but Laura did stab the fuck out of Gabby and mental-Jean.
>>89775489
>>89775517

Jean put Laura's Trigger Scent instinct into the rabbit, didn't she?
Also, why is anyone letting her walk around in the Phoenix costume? Do they want firebirds? Because this is how you get firebirds.

>>89775153
Laura...You're gay...And you want to be my bitch so much.

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>>89829389
Somebody else could probably do a funnier job and also not shit editing but here's my try at it.

>>89829916
You tried, anon. You are like a little babby. Watch this.

...but not right now. It's too late for fotoshopping. But Kimura-san will show you soon how it's done.

>>89777863
>>89777659
I like this
So its probably never going to happen

>>89793848
he's Nick Fury's son.

the eye thing is hereditary.

>>89815859
>Kimura in a dominant position enjoying Laura consumed by tentacles

This couldn't get more rapey unless she was delivering a speech about how much she loves tentacle rape

>>89775204
You know it doesn't get said enough: I'm super grat full for these little blurbs, and I wish DC and Valiant at least did them for their shared universes.

>>89775219
gambit is supposed to be sexy. He desperately needs a proper visual update

>>89775241
is that Angel? He looks like Larry Bird,

so

how long until someone shows up with a new and improved trigger scent that laura's psychic cleanup isn't effective against?

>>89775267
Laura-Scott/Jean love triangle when?

>>89778671
>there will never be a company crossover in which Martian manhunter brutally schools Jean on telepathic ethics

Why even live?

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>>89831611

>>89831976
Probably canon

>>89818402

Thought you meant NYX guys

>>89829283

>sarcastic

he's 100% right

>>89829916
She can't keep getting away with it!

>>89831976
The 'welcome home' is the best part

>>89831976
Perfect

>>89825732
I will always hate marvel for killing those kids.

>>89835671

saved

>>89837011

>>89837017

checked

>>89837340
Good

>>89837777

also checked

Holy jeeze, anons, why is this thread still alive?

>>89838303

healing factor

>All New Wolverine

>It's X-23

why not call it X23. You established X23 pretty significantly, making her a legacy character actually undermines her.

>>89837962
Thank you anon.

>>89838417
Snerk, good one.

>>89838449
I'm curious - why? I read it like Dick being Batman - a promotion that makes sense.

>>89838303
>Holy jeeze, anons, why is this thread still alive?
Waifu

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>>89838449
Canonically she knows she's a fake

>>89840176

>>89839879
Huh. Is Laura that much of a waifu for that many peeps?

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>>89840498
Someone actually build a website for her.

>>89840589
I am deeply disturbed...

>>89841464
Same

>>89843436

>>89840589
>>89840605
Good ol' Wingbat, dropping like $8000 on porn of his waifu. Dude's livin' the dream!

>>89845700
>Dude's livin' the dream!
Agreed with this.

>>89831976
Now I want this to be a thing godamn it

>>89846721

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>>89793848
It was probably one of the dumbest things Marvel has ever pulled.

>>89849022
I would have been totally behind it if they had stranded the actual Ultimate Universe Nick Fury in the 616. he was someone I could see bringing something to the table. Wasted Opportunity

>>89849022
>Deadpool's textbox is white

Dammit.

>>89850488
One Job