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FLAT Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Doctor Aphra #3 (January 18th)
Rebels 3.13: "Trials of the Darksaber" (January 21st)

>Episode Preview: Trials of the Darksaber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62TogumQlns [Embed]

>Rebels Recon: Warhead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfCuHRbbTZk [Embed]

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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She needs those ba'rest implants, stat
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>>89264518
What do her shits smell like?
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>>89264518
First for sweet blue goodness
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>>89264518
First for stormtroopers!
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>>89264270
You know of any tutorials? I would love to port some of this to FoC
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>>89264518
Kek
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>>89264518
off to a good start
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This shit is so fucking boring

>DUDE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS LMAO
>DUDE SKYWALKER GETS CAPTURED IN THE MOST MUNDANE WAY POSSIBLE
>FORCE RESISTANT SLUGS LMFAO
>HEY THERE'S A JEDI MASTER WHO IS PROBABLY EVIL BUT YOU WONT SEE HIM PAST CHAPTER 13

Tell me the trilogy gets better, I'm considering dumping this for my Jack Reacher box set
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>>89264617
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>>89264738
Shit's cash in the next book. It gets waaaay better once Thrawn takes Coruscant out of the picture.
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Who is the most "muh ideals" character in Star Wars?
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>>89264815
Tempted to say General Hux, even though we don't know much about him. Something about those crazy eyes.
Close second is probably Padme. We get it, you like democracy. Sheesh.
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>>89264738
Let's do more:
>DUDE TWI'LEKS LMAO
>DUDE NAZI LESBIAN LMAO
>HEY IT'S VADER AND SIDIOUS OH THE BOOK IS OVER
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>>89264815
Does it count if they have a good point?
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>>89264815
This piece of shit. Rode them all the way down to the Hell he put his Order into.
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>>89264861
>DUDE NOTHING LMAO
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what's the galactic cutoff for being space legal?
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>>89264861
>DUDE HERA DOESN'T MATTER LMAO
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>>89264617
damn straight
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>>89264898
>DUDE TRY TO FIX FORCE AWAKENS PLOT LMAO
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>>89264738
>>89264861
>>89264898
>>89264935
>>89264957
>Reading Novels
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what is the most aggressively stupid straight ship in the whole fandom?
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>DUDE GREY AREAS LMAO
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>>89264976
>watching rebels
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>>89264994
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>DUDE FUCK KOTOR LMAO
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>>89264928
the galaxy has no age of consent
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>>89264858
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>>89264994
FinnRey
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>>89264957
>DUDE KYBERS LMAO
>DUDE TARKIN BE SCHEMIN' YO
>DUDE OPERATION SPACE DEATH RAY IS A CLEAN ERERGY PROJECT HONEST LMFAO
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>>89264928
Probably depends on the species.
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>>89265017
but their relationship was believable and cute in TCW
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>DUDE MEDI CHLORIANS LMAO
>DUDE EDGY YOUNG SHEEV LMAO
>DUDE REDEEMS EPISODE I LMAO
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>>89265017
>Hi there, I'm gonna kill you indirectly with my dick in about 10 years, oh, and are you an angel?
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>>89265071
This one actually made me laugh
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Another disaster thread.
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>>89265109
>edgy young Sheev
this sounds amazing desu

how edgy are we talking, here?
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>>89265093
Yeah, the pinnacle of healthy, a closeted relationship where they had to keep secrets from each other as well as everyone else.

Their entire relationship was an abortion of logic.
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>>89264935
but if Kanan wouldn't have popped a boner for her on first sight he'd never have joined the rebellion.
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>>89264935
did Kanan and Hera ever fuck?
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>>89265141
Anakin should have been aborted.
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>>89265138
Palpatine slaughtering his entire family is the LEAST edgy thing about him.
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>>89265071
>OPERATION SPACE DEATH RAY IS A CLEAN ERERGY PROJECT HONEST LMFAO

watching them explain this would be hilarious
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>>89265144
Sounds familiar.
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>>89264518
how does this fight scene in the picture end?
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>>89265170
Anakin should have kept his dick in his pants.
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>>89265179
why, what was the edgiest? was he always an evil fucker or did Plagueis have to corrupt him to the Dark Side?
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>DUDE TONS OF OCS LMAO
>DUDE SPACE GAYS LMAO
>DUDE JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
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>>89265128
Keep saying that
Maybe it'll come true
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>>89265168
Even without the picture, I instantly knew which one you meant.
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>>89265191
Read the book. Seriously, it's one if the best nucanon books
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>>89265197
no, the Jedi shouldn't have been retarded and forbidden all forms of romantic attachment, of course people are going to rebel against that shit, I bet half of the Order had forbidden loves at one point of another if they aren't actively hiding their side bitches from the council
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>>89265163
Probably.

>>89265144
Hera was nothing like in Rebels, though, she was a vixen almost.
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>>89265197
If he was never born, what would Sheev have done? Also, can you abort a Force baby?
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>>89265138
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>>89265229
Ki-Adi please go
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>DUDE ROMANCE NOVEL LMAO
>DUDE JEDI DON'T KNOW HOW TO KILL LMAO
>KILLING FORCE SENSITIVE FISH MAKES YOU AN ASSASSIN
>LET'S LOCK GRIEVOUS IN A CUPBOARD
>THEN OPENLY CONFRONT DOOKU AND DUEL HIM LIKE FUCKING JEDI L M F A O
>GRIEVOUS GOT OUT OF THE CUPBOARD LET'S JUST GIVE UP HAHA
>JUST HIRE BOBA TO DEFEAT DOOKU OFFSCREEN LMAO
>LIKE, REALLY JUST THROW A NET OVER DOOKU LMAO
>AND THEN IGNORE THE CHANCE TO KILL HIM TO FULFILL YOUR WHOLE MOTIVATION BECAUSE MORE BATTLEDROIDS LOVING EVERY LAUGH
>LE I AM NOT A SITH BECAUSE I AM CONVINCED I'M STILL A JEDI xD
>DUDE JUST TRUST ME LMAO
>JUST TRUST ME OK
>TRUST
>JUST TRUST ME

>WITCH MESSIAH
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>>89265196
It's in the teaser.

>Sabine beats Ezra
>"Lolz, not so tough"
>Sabine gets BTFO by Kanan
>"U all suk. This is bullshit"

...and I feel like my IQ just went down a few clicks.
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>>89265229
You have a point, I was just fucking around but yeah romantic attachment is natural, basically everyone in the jedi order had to have side hoes at least once.

>>89265245
He probably would have found a strong force user and taken them under his wing, idk. and probably not, every time you go in with the coat hanger, it moves out of the way.
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>>89265287
so more misandrist bullshit about "girls rule boys drool"

glad I stopped caring about this series a long time ago
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>>89265280
Heh
It's true
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>>89265163
Yes, but she wasn't his first lay. He had himself some pretty wild flings before settling in on the Ghost to hang with Hera, but eventually they stopped sleeping together and decided to keep it a business relationship according to FPJ.

>>89265207
He got noticed by being a political activist against his father's political allies and was already starting to show signs of amorality and sociopathic leanings when Plagueis met him. Then he starts feeding intel to Plagueis as an insider spy. After daddy Palpatine figures out his son is feeding secrets to his enemies, he packs up the whole family and kidnaps Palpatine to exile him to Chandrila or someplace where he can be kept out of the loop. Palpatine loses his shit at being treated like an animal being put into a shelter and ends up killing everyone on board the ship, including the guards, the pilot, mommy and daddy and all his sibilings.

The edgiest thing I can remember him doing is going all Sithy after a botched assassination attempt by the Gran ambassador on Plagueis and roasting him alive in a fire made from his own curtains, in his own house, surrounded by the corpses of his whole entourage/herd.
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>>89265163
I'd say there are two options here:

1. They're actually in a relationship but it never gets mentioned in the series itself since that only covers theirs missions and they don't want distractions on those.

2. In A New Dawn Kanan makes very clear that he's into her, while Hera is aware of that and doesn't mind it, but the rebellion has priority for her.
Now, knowing that Kanan is only in it for her, she, being the staunch idealist she is, actually puts out for him from time to time just to keep him on board and to be able to use his jedi powers for the rebel cause.
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>>89265325
There's way more going on than that. Sabine only wins against Ezra because she was given Mando tech designed specifically to fight the Jedi. This seems to piss Kanan off and he lashes out at her because she's not adhering to his strict Jedi dogma. And later on he smashes up her new toy.
This might be the episode where we start to see Sabine turn around as a character. Frustrations and being out of her comfort zone could add a lot to her.
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>DUDE HORDE VS ALLIANCE LMAO
>DUDE DARK SPACE GOD EMPEROR LMAO
>DUDE EVERYONE WEARS SPANDEX LMAO
>OUR CHARACTERS ARE AS STIFF AS ACTION FIGURES HITTING EACH OTHER
>LETS SPEND ALL OUR BUDGET ON VOICE ACTING
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>>89264872
Ayyy, fellow 8bro
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>>89265287
Except Ezra wasn't trying and she went all out, he could have put her on her ass the second they started if he wanted to.
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>>89265374
>Palpatine loses his shit at being treated like an animal being put into a shelter and ends up killing everyone on board the ship, including the guards, the pilot, mommy and daddy and all his sibilings.
does he start screaming
>no NO N O
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>>89264928
Twi'leks are legal at 16.
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>>89265415
fuck no

the show has had pretty sexist toward men for a long time

they are always portrayed as stupid fools and comic relieves while the female characters are always perfect mary sue "strong wyman" that can do no wrong and get to act cool and save the incompetent men

well enjoy your misandrist kid show if you like being treated like shit
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>>89265483
Cancer.
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>>89265374
>but eventually they stopped sleeping together and decided to keep it a business relationship according to FPJ.
fics of Kanan and Hera breaking their agreement to fuck like desperate animals when?
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>>89265470
No, he just crushes daddy against the wall until he goes squish, a guard comes in, he yells something like 'WE'RE ALL IN THIS NOW!!' and drags the dude into the room with the Force. Then it cutscenes to Plagueis doing terrible things to his medical experiments and getting a call from a panicked Palpatine that he's adrift in space in a ship full of dead people that he killed with his bare hands and mind.
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>>89265509
Here's your (you), don't spend it all in one place.
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>89265509
Glad to see where your priorities lie.

Don't let the back door hit you when you're stupid
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>>89265509
>BAWWWW THERE AREN'T ENOUGH WHITE MALE HEROES WE MUST SECURE THE PERPETUATION OF OUR AUTISM AND A FUTURE FOR WHITE SELFINSERTS
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>>89265519
They're on AO3 if you're really looking. I doubt they'll ever get back together in the show, though, Kanan's pretty much stuck on Ezra and everything that entails, and I think he likes the dynamic as it is now. We'll see what season ending does and whether or not that changes anything.
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>>89265280
Jesus Christ, what
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>>89265527
>Then it cutscenes to Plagueis doing terrible things to his medical experiments
his what now?
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>89265509
the men in the show are all stupid fools and comic relieves
I see.
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>>89265240
>Hera was nothing like in Rebels, though, she was a vixen almost.

1. great pilot - check
2. back and forth banter with Kanan - check
3. puts the rebellion above everything else - check

She isn't really all that different, only thing that seemed off to me was that she was way more like a flawless action girl than in Rebels, taking on several dudes in hand to hand combat and stuff like that.
Almost everytime the novel goes "damn, she's fine" it happens in Kanans internal monologues where he thinks about her, so I don't know if that's really inconsistent with Rebels.
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hey kids wanna buy some midichlorians?
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>>89265576
Dark Disciple

It's terrible and I want that afternoon back I spent on reading it.
Also ruined Ventress forever. Then killed her. Fuck 'em.
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>>89264518
Thie episode will start the romance arc
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>>89265567
>>89265630
>>89265645
You're all retards, get fucking politics out of here.
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>>89265629
well I can´t remember a single instance were Ezra beats or outsmarts Sabine or saves her.
it´s always the other way around and he is always made as the butt of her jokes
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>>89265670
you are never going to see romance in star wars again

liberal consider it sexist for a female side character to fall in love
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>>89265655
you've got megachlorians?
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>>89265655
Nah, get the fuck outta here with that shit in this neighborhood. We got straight up skills here because we only do magick, ya dig?
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>>89265623
Plagueis is stupidly rich, even for a Muun, and his family owns a moon, and on this moon is a base, and in this base is a lab where Plagueis takes all kinds of creatures and beings and performs gruesome experiments on them in order to grasp full understanding of the relationship between the Force, midichlorians, and life.
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>>89265727
Considering the last time romance was a key part of a Star Wars project, you could be onto something.
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>>89265670
Unlikely

We probably won't see it start at all if it does. We'll just get a time skip like we got with season 3 and suddenly they're together with casual banter and no real difference at all except maybe 1 hug we see all season and more 3-4 lines of playful banter across the season.
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>>89265770
what do you mean?
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>>89265782
Thats literally perfect
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>>89265707
He saved them both in the canyon with Mandos chasing them.
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Is Jyn's name supposed to be a reference to something?
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>>89265797
I would honestly smack you in the face if you're serious. That's terrible writing and to call it perfect is insulting. It's just like the shit they pulled in Korra. Romance can be done well and not get in the way of things.
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>>89265645
yeah sjw might have taken over every art form there is but at least politics is no controlled by a person that couldn´t be further removed form sjws

don´t gonna lie that was my main reason for supporting Trump and it makes all this sjw crap worth while
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>>89265833
If you mean Korra and Asami yeah that was utter shit. But Jinora and Kai got together off screen and it was perfect, the same with Bolin and Opal
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>>89265415
It's less Kanan lashing out and more warning her nott to rely too much on her gadgets.
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>>89264935
More like

>DUDE THE LIGHTSABER IS A LIE
>DUDE THE POWER OF BONERS
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If I do a Fett armor build should I go ESB paint or ROTJ?
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>>89265192
NO, no Luke, don't lust for your sister
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>>89265801
Jyn Erso is similar to Jan Orso, Kyle Katarn's partner and pilot of the Moldy Crow that helped him steal the Death Star plans.
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>>89265798
yeah but he is still always the butt of her joke and she never get presented like him as pathetic, weak and stupid

just more misandry to push feminist propaganda about how superior women are
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where is the pic in OP from, is there a new preview or did the episode leak?
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>>89265859
>Jinora and Kai got together off screen and it was perfect
It was nothing, simply stating they're together and saying it's "going great" isn't "perfect" or even close to it.

That's like having ever lightsaber battle for the rest of Rebels begin with a staredown and then we see them ignite their sabers and it cuts away and never shows the fight ever.

SOUNDS PERFECT

SO PERFECT

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE THE FIGHT IF YOU KNOW THE OUTCOME LOLOLOL
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>>89265882
ESB looked sharper, IMO.
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>>89265901
erza deserves to be bullied while kanan fucks hera senseless
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>>89265927
This, every lightsaber battle should be this from now on.

It would be perfect.
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>>89265918
The former. We get the actual episode the usual time
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>>89265798
Ezra is literally always saving the day. Between him and Kanan the majority of episodes revolve around them pulling off constant badass Jedi feats, taking on walkers single-handedly and all manner of crazy, unbelievable, overpowered shit that Hera or Sabine couldn't dream of.
Now no-one is saying Sabine isn't the most fleshed-out character, I think she show's creators haven't given her much of interest yet. But when people get so upset when literal side-characters are given the odd action sequence, it's pretty amusing.
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>>89265927
Thats completely different. SW isn't a love story
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>>89265874
Maybe I'm reading into it too much but I got a real sense of anti-mando-trickery antipathy from him. He wants her to fight like a Jedi, not like Sabine-as-a-Jedi.
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>>89265928
Okay but that pic is ROTJ. ROTJ has the multi colored jetback and red gauntlets (among other things). ESB is all green save knee and shoulder guards.
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>>89264518
>Using sticks with mass to train for using energy swords that don't have mass.
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>>89266001
Yeah, I realized that right after I posted. ROTJ is the sharper look.
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>>89265961
It's so funny that you would try to say that, it really is.

Because that's the kind of stupidity that almost stopped Star Wars from existing in the first place

If you don't like romance, that's on you, it's perfectly normal and healthy and makes the characters fully realized if they're more than just action-smash-bots-of-murder-kill. Romance itself is an adventure, having it wrapped and part of one is fantastic.
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>>89265655
Sir, I have to ask, but are you a Jedi?
I mean, because you look exactly like a Jedi.
I mean you're dressed like one. Like all of them.
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>>89266007
Darksaber probably doesn't have the training low power mode, so work on the basics with sticks, before slicing off your own hands.
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>>89266007
It's not about the weight, sperg, it's about how you're going to be moving.
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>tfw Force Arena keeps crashing
i've lost like 3 battles because of this.
FUCK THIS GAME I JUST WANT TO KILL SOME FUCKING EMPIREFAGS BUT NOOOOO THE GAME KEEPS CRASHING AND CLOSING AND SHIT. GOD DOESN'T WANT ME TO HAVE FUN REEEEEEEEEE
GOD IS LIKE "NO YOU FUCKING SPIC, AS LONG AS YOU LIVE YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUN WITH GAMES, MOVIES, ETC. FUCK YOU. SEE YA SOON. NIGGER"
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>>89266081
Is the maintenance already happening?
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So what do you honestly think, /swco/?
Will this actually be a good episode?
Will it help to fill out Sabine's personality and make her more well-rounded?
Or will it just be more padding, leaving her character flat and under-developed?
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>>89266020
Oh okay, gotcha. I like the colors of ROTJ and I think the design is a little cleaner, but he's a chump in that movie.
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>>89265950
can you post a link? No new preview on the star wars youtube page.
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>>89266081
Thats what you get for being Rebel scum
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>>89265280
Is this the novel where ventress got BLACKED?
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>>89266098
Does this answer your question?
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>>89266116
Can't seem to find a better link, but here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCeJT-cE_60
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>>89266098
Look at that smug cunt look on her bitchy yellow face. I'd cut her tits off for that shit but she hasn't grown any. She's so fucking cancerous, why won't they just kill her off?
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>>89266007
Their sticks could be lighter than balsa and weigh less than the lightsaber.
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>>89266098

How many episodes have there been that were made to give Sabine character development, and it fall on its face and bring nothing new to the table?

I'm not having high hopes for this new episode to be different.
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>>89266183
>Sabine gets declared Mandalore
>Maul immediately swoops in and kills her, becoming Mandalore yet again

It wont happen, but I want it to happen
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>>89266183
Relax, Ezra wasn't trying when she went all out with her stuff and then immediately lost to Kanaan WHILE getting the ambush meaning that's worth like 9,000 losses in all seriousness which is why she loses it and gets so mad. She, like any real warrior, knows if you lose after ambushing someone you might as well take your own life right then and there because the skill gap between you is insane.

Mando pride hinges on their ability to fight, they can't beat Jedi so that's always going to be a thing that enrages them. She's gonna learn what she can and can't do in this and be better for it. She'll end up fighting better than ever by the time the Darksaber stuff is over.

Sabine will be Mandalore soon
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>>89266098
Dude this season is SABINE THE SEASON. If this season doesn't gives ger a personality then nothing will
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>>89266228
>wanting more maul
why?
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>>89266183
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>>89266319
Her personality is cocky hotshot with no grace.
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>>89266183
Hi Araxuss!
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>>89266323
>not wanting more Maul
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>>89266092
tomorrow

>>89266124
>le rebel scum X-D
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are Twi'leks the plebian's waifu?
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>>89266183
>>89266314
It could also be related to how she's performed at everything else she's done.

She's a mechanic, hacker, sharpshooter, explosives expert, artist, etc. And we never really see her struggle with it. Now she's not the best, presumably worse than Ezra. She's probably pretty pissed and Kanan is probably annoyed at petty bitchiness.
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>>89266378
>Rebel scum is mad that he got called out
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>>89266371
>Liking a guy that fell down a hole and was resurrected solely because of bad taste

He'll never be half the man Maw was...and he's half a man!
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>>89266217
2 or 3 episodes as far as i remember
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>>89266395
Yes. Kaminoans are best.
>soft voice
>very tall
>slender and smart
>just xeno enough
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>>89266451
>being a contrarian

Maul is fucking great now, he lives to suffer
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>>89266542
just you wait, he'll release his anger and live in peace after fighting Obi Wan. we're talking some serious catharsis, here
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>>89266425
>frogposter
>animeposter
>imperial
oh boy
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>>89266615
This shouldn't surprise you unless you're from reddit or something
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>>89266542
You're vastly underestimating how many people hate Maul.
>Suffering
That's a good thing, and Witwer, but it was all all still because of a bad decision and silly that he's lasted this long...and that he's gonna die just like that original comic that had him come back with new legs and die to Kenobi on Tatooine
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>>89266664
>the redditfrog poster calling me a redditor
whew lad, you can stop now
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>>89266368
>Araxuss
How bad is this guy taking Sabine now?

Has he made any art that's perfect for editing?
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>>89266690
The amount of people who like Maul dwarf the amount of people who hate him
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>>89266664
We had a /pol/ poster earlier on.
Do they drop in here often or is it all just bait?
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>>89265655
You don't want to sell me midichlorians. You want to go home and rethink your life.
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>>89266706
>i-i'll just call him the same thing, that'll show him!

Yeah ok, buddy.
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>YWN see a Clone Wars flashback episode with Obi-Wan and Qui Gon on Mandalore
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>>89266718
He's probably catatonic. Or he's this guy >>89266183
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>>89266421
This.
I'm ready - it took them long enough but finally we're seeing Sabine be vulnerable. That's always a good way in to character development.
Best case, we all start to care about her, stop calling her flat all the time, and the show gets a new beloved character.
Worst case, the show's producers give up on her and she's relageted to the background.
I have a good feeling about this.
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>>89266720
You say that like that means something, the amount of stupid people with no taste or sense in that group is astounding. The people that dislike Maul have a far better sense of taste and reason.

>Resurrecting some dude that was defeated by a Padawan
>Thinking he was ever cool

It's stupidity like that which made Boba Fett fucking ridiculous in the EU to the point he became fucking immortal, actually immortal, you people are aiming for that shit with Maul and it's ridiculous.
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>>89266867
>things in star wars shouldnt be stupid
>ninja space wizards is serious business guys
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>>89266780
hey, i just said you posted a redditfrog but if you feel like i called you a redditor that's ok. i don't judge homosexuals.
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>>89266718
Nothing doing on his DeviantArt page, yet. But I seriously doubt he keeps up-to-date Rebels. He'll find out at some point. Then the snuff-fest begins.
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>>89266867
>my opinion is the only right one
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>>89266897
Are you still going on? Whatever makes you happy I guess
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>>89266893
>>89266906
There's a limit to everything, Maul broke that limit even if Witwer is cool and does a great job, Maul should never have returned. It'd be like bringing Qui Gon back or having Luke join the Rebels team
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>>89266980
>bringing qui-gon back

well, they didn't "not" do that
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>>89266980
>Qui Gon back or having Luke join the Rebels team
Every Fett and Maul fan here know these are fucking awesome ideas, they should have Vader join them too. That would be really fucking cool.
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>>89266867
Fuck you. Boba Fett IS immortal
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>>89266980
Qui-gon is "immortal" and was even supposed to show up in ROTS. He can be used at any important Jedi moment LSG approves of. I wonder if he met Luke yet.
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Through shenanigans that are beyond your ken you wake up and find that you are now Emperor Sheev Palpatine, aka Darth Sidious, aka Big Papa Palpy, Dark Lord of the Sith, Emperor of the Galaxy, and all around cheeky cunt. What do?
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>>89267081
Making him immortal was the worst fanboyism
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>>89267213
Implement Sheevcare
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>>89267213
>fuck a xeno
>kill some rebels
>bully Darth Vader
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>>89267213
Corrupt Padme to the dark side.
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>>89266867
there's a difference between the ridiculous Boba Fett EU stuff and canon Maul.

For starters, while Maul did get defeatet by a Padawan, it was more due to him dicking around than being actually inferior and he did kill a Jedi Master before that. Bobas biggest claim to fame in the OT was getting tossed to his doom like an idiot.

And the other difference is that Boba became somekind of jedi slaying bountyhunter Ubermensch, while Maul managed to bounce back during the Mando arc, but only because Sheev let him, before putting an end to it. Now he's just a complete lunatic chasing after god-knows-what and getting bested by blind not-fully-trained Jedi.
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>>89267213
probably kill myself because I'm such an ugly fuck
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>>89267196
Ascended Force users have limits though so they aren't showing up everything doing everything, their deaths removed them from the scene mostly.

I was clearly talking about bringing Qui Gon back to life like Maul, too.
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>>89267296
>Ascended Force users have limits though
[citation needed]

New canon has no such limits (minimum or maximum, however) for force ghost life and use.
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I'm hoping Maul doesn't get killed off before the extent his relationship with Sheev gets addressed. Like, how old was he when Sheev picked him up? Could it make Sheev qualify as the worst father figure ever?
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>>89267284
please do not bully Darth Vader
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>>89267332
>New canon has no such limits (minimum or maximum, however) for force ghost life and use.
They're the same as they've always been, they can do anything but won't because it would be wrong to abuse the power. Lucas laid that down pretty firmly, you won't be seeing anything outside of this because it would tear down the notion of the adventure to begin with if the dead people just did everything for us.

At most we might see some Force ghosts fighting other ghosts in the future.
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>>89267213
first of all, I rethink my life choices, being a dark lord has given me an empire, a kickass cyborg apprentice, and unlimited power but honestly I would feel quite hollow, nobody wants to be my friend, they either grovel at my feet, kiss my ass, just piss themeselves in terror, or try to kill me. I have no equal, which means I cant talk on the level with anyone

it's also a lot of work, in between the rebels, rampant internal corruption, half a dozen uprisings a day, and normal work load of making sure half the galaxy doesnt just collapse. if I had known being evil was 90% paper work, I would have just stayed good
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>>89267336
That's all stuff worthy of Prequel information (the comic he's getting) that they can show or reveal any time they want.
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>>89267356
you can't stop me, fool.
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>>89267449
>throws down reactor shaft
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>>89267465
what if we stopped lying to vader, talked to him as an equal, and tried to be nice like "hey vader, how was your day"
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>>89267213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84YXPw4htnQ
Dance the night away!
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>>89267226
How'd be become immortal?
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>>89267465
*teleports behind you*
did you seriously expect me to die like THAT? think fast kiddo!
*stabs you in the ass with my lightsaber*
UNLIMITED POWER!!!1
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>>89267519
being nice is not the way of the Sith. although that would probably be how Luke would handle things if he had accepted Vader's offer to become his apprentice.

would Luke have been able to gradually turn Vader back to the light if he had taken his place at Vader's side?
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>>89267566
Fett was dying from sickness related to being a clone and in order to stop it he needed original data on all the Fett clones. He went and got it and it turned out he could refresh his body repeatedly with it forever making him immortal. Something only clones could do.
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>>89267631
My disgust for Fett fans has reached new heights

Also this sounds like clone conspiracy shit, haha
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>>89267519
thats not very sith
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>>89267589
luke is generally seen as a really nice guy, if he turned evil, he would be the nicest sith lord you've ever seen

as for turning vader, that is something we will never know, but I would think that luke would never fall as hard as vader did, and would be a lot easier to convince to turn back
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>>89265449
This is perfect, and that's coming from someone who actually enjoyed that game for a little bit because I liked each class getting their own storyline and the amount of customization.
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>>89267631
That sounds like something a NEET mango fan cooked up.
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>>89267631
is this shit real
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>>89265449
>LETS SPEND ALL OUR BUDGET ON VOICE ACTING
It's funny because it's true
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>>89267809
Yep. Or rather was in the EU.
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>>89267891
Where did this come from?
wasn't Karen, was it?
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>>89267809
What is cloned may never die.
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>>89267910
Yup, her LOTF novels
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>>89267809
>>89267787
What, did you doubt the Fett and Maul fandom? The people that travel in droves dressed as Mandalorians and dress up as Maul at night to cut themselves because of their inner rage and unbridled darkness...you doubted the lengths they go to?

You're lucky Ep 7 wasn't about Fett and Maul, I guarantee some asshole brought them up in the storygroup discussion.
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>>89267910
The final EU stuff with Fett I believe
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Maul? Boba?
Take a third option...
Vote FN-2199
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>>89267213
Say silly shit in my dark side voice, use the force to read the minds of my imperials and then kill those who thought it was funny. Then I would use the force to give darth vader some nightmares about sand and his dead wife.
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>>89267631
I wonder if George read up about all this shit as TCW was happening and said ''Fuck the Fetts, reboot Mandos now.''
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>>89268021
Traitor!!
hoping he was simply maimed and not killed
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>>89267954
>You're lucky Ep 7 wasn't about Fett and Maul
If only...

But soon we will take our place again. We'll have Maul kill Kenobi during this season finale and replace him, this is all we have deemed.
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>>89268138
You won't succeed, not really. We will always be here to stop you.
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>>89268095
I like to think his spirit was broken before then and he gave up on ever looking at any EU books
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>>89268117
what's the status of Imperial disabled Veteran's benefits?
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>>89267544
honestly probably this
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>The Ghost crew goes to Mandalore so Sabine can become Mandalore
>There's a big celebration, but its interrupted by Maul
>"You have something that belongs to me, child. Hand over the darksaber"
>Sabine gets cocky "Why don't you take it from me?"
>Suddenly an explosion is heard, and Boba Fett flies in, using a grappling cable to take the darksaber out of her hands
>He lands next to Maul and hands it over
>"Here you go, buddy" he says, before shooting Sabine between the eyes without even looking
>He flies off, leaving everyone in awe and Maul in command
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>>89268375
>goes to Mandalore so Sabine can become Mandalore

Have you ever been so full of yourself that you literally became a planet?
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>>89268076
>Vader has a nice dream where he and Padme raise their kids in a healthy family that's totally not forced to stay secret and he's totally a Jedi Master on the Council even though he's married, while good friends Obi-Wan and Ahsoka stop by every other day for dinner
>wakes up in the suit
>Sheev smiles into his morning coffee, as Vader's wave of anger and self-loathing upon awakening sends a ripple through the Dark Side that can be felt all the way on Coruscant
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>>89268402
Maybe
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>>89268320
the empire probably gave some kind of pension, since they make some gesture to trying to cover up the fact they are the evil empire. but given that their evilness was pretty much an open secret, they probably did not give beyond the bare minimum

the first order uses people raised since birth, they can do away with the thin veneer of civility, and go all COBRA, and send them to the nursing home planet
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>>89268434
>since they make some gesture to trying to cover up the fact they are the evil empire
lol

the Empire is Evil and Proud Of It
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When is he going to appear?
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>>89268320
They're entitled to one month of free health care! After that month expires they have the option of a firing squad if they feel they do not want to continue dealing with their medical issues. Should they decline the firing squad, they will be entitled to a 20 credit gift certificate to Dex's and be sent out onto the street.
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somebody please provide me with screenshots, preferably high res, of every appearance of Scout trooper armor in Star Wars Rebels especially with Ezra wearing it
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>>89268469
Literally who?
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Is there anyone on the rebels cast that Araxuss hasn't made guro of?
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including Legends material, who is the most evil Sith Lord?
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>>89268505
I haz a helmet.
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>>89268593
darth icky
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>>89268572
Chopper.
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>>89268593
Darth Sperrgyy
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>>89268469
Zann is more interesting for the cast of characters that serve as his lieutenants, but he's still definitely the coolest crime boss in Star Wars lore

Also
>Literally embarking on war of vengeance against the Empire just because they expelled him from the Imperial Academy
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>>89268716
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>>89268505
>>89268649
Wow, Empire's budget really got thin. Mouthpiece parts are just drawn on there.
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>>89268766
I don't think he's any worse than a character like Prince Xizor
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>>89268843
Gotta build that Deathstar already.
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>>89268402
guess that means the world is flat
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>>89268766
There are far worse things than Tyber Zahn. Stealing the Eclipse and robbing Coruscant is a step too far, but him being a galactic crime boss isnt unbelievable. In NuEU he'll probably an apprentice of Hondo
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>>89268766
Is that a swatstika on his forehead?
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anybody else get this stupid glitch in commander where the game doesn't register that you've trained troops? gets pretty annoying when you need to attack but your battalion has suddenly been wiped out
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Decided to give Clone Wars a try and though I'm enjoying it; Jesus fuck the guy they got to voice the clones... just terrible
Sounds like an awful attempt at an English accent, even though the original guy was from New Zealand
Reeeeeal bad.
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>>89269153
I have to give the guy props for literally talking to himself in some episodes though.
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>>89269153
This is the one thing that always bothered me about TCW - why the FUCK didn't they get Temuera Morrison to voice the clones? Lucas was funding out of pocket, he was fronting all the costs, why did he spare the expense on that aspect alone just to hire some generic literal who?
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>>89269198
>generic literal who
Try harder anon
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>>89269153
Yeah, Baker can't tell the difference between Australian and New Zealand accents, or maybe he can but just can't pull it off since it and South African are fairly notorious for being hard to get right. You get used to him after a while, though.
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>>89268375
>Boba Fett
>Ever succeeding at anything
Not canon bub.
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>>89269220
He succeeded in doing Jabba's errand by taking credit for Vader's victory
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>>89269198
I think that was why I actually enjoyed the German dub of the show, every character had the same voice from the movies. Gave it a bit of authenticy
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"Oobah koh ra doh ka mallo droid kah Wookiees?"
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>>89269086
He does also provide an enjoyable extra dimension to the Galactic Civil War, in my opinion
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>>89269153
I think the worst is Yoda. Everytime I hear him I think of the Robot Chicken shorts with the same actor.

>Maybe cut down on the flips you should. No more need to impress me there is! Begging you I am, sick I will be!
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>>89269295
Oobah koh ra doh ka MALLO kah Wookies?
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>>89269153
Same with Battlefront 2 tbH. They got Temuera to do the 501st journal, why do the Clones in game sound like generic american soldiers?
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>>89269386
As a videogame, maybe. The plot of Empire at War was all over the place, I wouldn't consider it a positive contribution to the canon.
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>>89269217
I'm not trying anything, Dee Bradley Baker is a fucking nobody with a boring voice that can only halfass anything.

>>89269407
What bugged me about Tom Kane's Yoda is that he ALWAYS spoke in opposite-day language. Every single line was his backwards lingo when in the movies, that was usually a formal front that he often dropped when dealing with people normally.
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>>89269145
speaking of commander we got a new update today

we sandtroopers now
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>>89269492
>>89269407
I still don't get why Lucasfilm just hasn't hired Eric Jacobson to be the "Yoda voice we hire when Frank doesn't feel like showing up".

I can't imagine him being that busy outside Sesame Street shooting considering how sporadic new Muppet stuff has been since the Disney buyout.
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so what has to happen for your eyes to turn yellow?
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>>89269750
Inject 10 000mg of EDGE into your bloodstream
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>>89269034
>Graduate glorious Imperial academy at long last.
>Report to my new station and proceed to armory for outfitting
Hello?
>Chest plate swings up from below the desk with a clatter
Thatsh yours
>My glorious armor that will allow me to become both shield and spear of the Empire...has scribbles on it!
>The inside of the armor reads "Kintertic Impart Reduckshun" proceeded with scribbled lines weaving
The ablative integrity matrix...is drawn on!? It also feels like the containers I store my food in back home...
>I lean over the counter in rage to find out what's going on
You're...just a kid
>She pouts and gets mad immediately
I'm the quartetmaster! I make your stuffs super good!
>I glance around seeing everything in the armory is clearly her work
I can't wear this...I'll die!
>Her face is now one on the verge of tears
You dun wan m-my masted peas-is?
>Panic fills me as tears now run down her face
I-I'll wear it! Stop!
>She throws her hands up immediately
Yay!
>I'm handed a bowl with "Lifey port sistems" scriibbled in it along with some holes jammed into it.
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>>89265229
Would Anakin have turned out better if he didn't have to hide his relationship and concerns about Padme's pregnancy?
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>>89269946
Probably, but he'd be better off with someone else entirely rather than Padme "Used Goods" Amidala
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>>89269054
>Mando'a ba'rest impl'laants

My sides
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Delicious flat chest
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>>89265170
But Anakin is the chosen one, so he's basically space Jesus and you couldn't ever abort Christ, because he would be stronger than the coat hanger
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>>89269946
Yes, if he could have talked about his relationship/attachment/abandonment issues in the open without fear of being expelled from the Order he would not have fallen
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Are the Jedi allowed to use the Force during sex?
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>>89269290
yeah it was the same for the LATAM dub. same VAs in the movies and in the show.
>Gave it a bit of authenticy
this
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Do any of you guys want to buy any Jogans
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>>89270401
Well they arent allowed to have sex, so technically there is no rule against using the force during it since you're already violating the code
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>>89270401
Nothing says they can't

>>89270502
>Well they arent allowed to have sex
Incorrect.
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>>89269516
>tubenoses are back
>as trainable infantry from the barracks
>when security droids are hired mercenaries
devs pls
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Did Rex ever visit the Jedi Temple? I'm writing a fic and I want to know if he ever appeared in the Temple during TCW
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>>89270656
does it really matter?
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>>89270691
With what I'm writing, yes.
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>>89265754
Now this sounds like a reasonable thing that reasonable person would do.
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>>89270497
Yes, I'd like two of your jogans, let me feel them to see if they're nice and ripe...
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>>89270502
They can have sex, Lucas said so repeatedly.

>Jedi Knights aren't celibate - the thing that is forbidden is attachments - and possessive relationships
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>>89270856
i remember what it was like before the empire came to lothal i could sell as many Jogans as i wanted without any trouble
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>>89270896
So Jedi are into casual sex and the Sith are into actual relationships?

This seems oddly backwards
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How did Rex, Gregor and Wolf manage to function in the Empire for so long after removing their biochips? Surely they would've been found out pretty fast when they didn't start gunning down Jedi.
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>>89270968
The Sith are into unhealthy relationships where one person "owns" the other if you hadn't guessed.
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>>89270705
Watcha writing?
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>>89270968
I think casual sex would be frowned upon since it's derived from lust.
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So, I've never looked into reading any of the Star Wars comics or novels from either the Legends of the new Canon, but I'm interested in both.

Can anyone here give me suggestions of a good book/comic to start with for each?

Pic unrelated, I just like LoGH.
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>>89270968
I think the general Sith way of thinking is that relationships are a distraction. It seems like they also avoid attachments like the Jedi just for different reasons- the only attachment they consider worthwhile is attachment to power.
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>MFW the empire asks for my identification when im just trying to sell a couple Jogans here
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>>89270996
>thinks people don't have sex just to cum
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>>89270989
Also rape. It's surely something they've done since part of their teachings is to do whatever they want with the Force as its theirs to use as they will to make them happy and everything in life is for their taking.
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>>89270992
An AU. The Siege of Mandalore happens earlier and Ahsoka has practically disappeared from the radar she just fucked off to live alone and depressed, Rex finds her later on. Rex then has to participate in the Jedi Purge on the temple.

>>89271034
You can just masturbate then. If you want to fuck, then that's lust.
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>>89271022
Sounds like someone's begging to be strip searched! TK-1121, take this treasonous fruit vendor and conduct a thorough body search for contraband, and I do mean thorough.
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>>89271116
I'm just trying to sell a couple Jogans here, buddy.
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>>89271136
I'LL TAKE EM ALL
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>>89271158
Well I wish I hadnt seen that
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Why are all of the infantry soldiers in Rebels shown as Stormtroopers? Aren't they supposed to be a special division separate from the regular Imperial Army that is more elite? Why don't we see regular infantry soldiers from the Empire ever?
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>>89270968
Sith aren't into relationships, at least not healthy ones, because they aren't into the whole "compassion" thing, which kind of rules out true love.
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>>89271192
you ain't seen nothin anon
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>>89271202
Because toys
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>>89271202
Because the Stormtroopers being "elite" is just propaganda. They're conscripts with shiny armor
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>>89271202
>Why are all of the infantry soldiers in Rebels shown as Stormtroopers? Aren't they supposed to be a special division separate from the regular Imperial Army that is more elite?

"Elite" is just propaganda. Stormtroopers have always been the primary soldier of the Imperial Army.

>Why don't we see regular infantry soldiers from the Empire ever?
They don't really exist
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>>89271212
>as her son Ziro
Fuck I always forget that Ziro is a male. Then again, Hutts can change their gender which makes them not that different from SJWs on Tumblr.
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>>89271158
THATS ALOTTA JOGANS
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>>89271253
>Then again, Hutts can change their gender
Not in canon
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>>89271202
There's not really much evidence to suggest a boots on the ground, infantry force exists in the "Imperial Army" outside of Stormtroopers.

TFA's Stormtrooper fluff also heavily implies that the training and competency of Empire-era Stormtroopers varied MASSIVELY to the point that a lot of them were practically useless.
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>>89265179
Gotta remember he slaughtered his family with his BARE HANDS
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>>89271261
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>>89271253
>Then again, Hutts can change their gender which makes them not that different from SJWs on Tumblr.
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>>89271280
It was confirmed at a recent Celebration.
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>>89271325
>It was confirmed at a recent Celebration.
what was? not sure if you're agreeing with my post or attempting to refute it
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>>89271325
No it was confirmed that they're no longer hermaphrodites.
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>>89271325
http://www.starwars.com/news/swca-one-big-story-star-wars-canon-panel-liveblog

>Also, Hutts now have single sexes. (Jabba is definitely a dude.)
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>>89265109
If you get the chance, listen to the audiobook for this. It's fucking fantastic.
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>>89271252
Wait, are the Stormtroopers essentially the Imperial Army in the new canon? In the old EU, there was a Imperial Army that was distinct and had infantry soldiers and operated ground vehicles like the AT-ATs and AT-STs.
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>>89268469
>>89268716

The organization is still canon, so they actually might show up at some point.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zann_Consortium
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>>89271003
For Legends I'd recommend
The Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn and The X-Wing Books.

For Canon, just about all the Marvel Star Wars comics have been either okay or awesome, so I'd recommend them.
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>>89271374
So some of them are just gay then?
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>>89271510
The Imperial Army still exists, but there's no evidence to suggest that they have any infantry. Stormtroopers seem to fill that role 100%.

The idea of all Stormtroopers being incredibly well equipped, well trained special forces is definitely dead though. Their training and capabilities run a pretty wide gamut, and their gear is inferior to clone gear.
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>>89271651
Thanks!

Are any of the new Canon novels good? Tarkin or the one about Vader and the Emperor?
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>>89271003
For legends novels, the Thrawn Trilogy, which consists of Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command, is basically the mandatory starting point. I can't really comment too much on legends comics, but John Jackson Miller's Knights of the Old Republic might be worth checking out if you're familiar with that time period through vidya.

For new canon novels, Lost Stars is probably a good place to begin, although canon novel recommendations more or less hinge upon what you're interested in. Both Bloodline and Catalyst might be worthwhile as they respectively give backstory to TFA and RO. For canon comics, I'd recommend Darth Vader, Lando, and if you've watched some Rebels, Kanan.
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>>89271794
What purpose does the Imperial Army serve if not infantry? Do they just operate ground vehicles? That seems like a pretty narrow field for an entire military branch. Unless they have a ton of ground vehicles like the Navy has ships and fighters.
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>>89271003
Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison is pretty good

Of course no longer canon, but before the Disney purge it was a good look into the formative years of the empire and perhaps helps explain how the Old Republic evolved into the Empire
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>>89271452
I plan to, I was just memeing.
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>>89271794
It's too bad really, even if the Stomtroopers proved little opposition to the heroes and the space teddy bears it felt right that the Stormtroopers would be the elite assault force while mundane tasks were left to conscripts and planetary defence forces
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>>89271394
>Jabba is definitely a dude
Did canon just assume his cheesa crispa Greedo!? That BASTARD!

Also yes, Greedois a gender now. The BEST gender, actually, if not always the quickest on the draw.
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>>89271887
Mostly operating ground vehicles. They also are used to garrison some places, but they're not particularly loyal

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Army
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>>89271834
Not the dude you're responding to, but both Lords of the Sith and Tarkin are good and rank highly for me in my canon novel rankings, although both require fairly substantial disclaimers.

Tarkin is a fine book, but I feel like you really need to go into it with a certain mindset. If you want to learn more about what makes Tarkin tick then it's fantastic, but just don't expect riveting space adventure.

Lords of the Sith, while certainly having a lot of Vader and Sheev shenanigans, also has a lot of emphasis on the insurgency that they're opposing and also some internal Imperial misconduct. This isn't a bad thing, but you should know going in that Vader and the Emperor aren't always going to be front and center.
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>>89265754
That's probably still canon. I mean I'm not saying it's CONFIRMED canon, just that that's probably the kind of shit he was up to. His immortality obsession is definitely intact, that wasn't just a convenient lie to tempt Anakin just a weirdly convenient truth. Kind of sucks how badly defined Palpatine's ultimate goal is. The Empire and defeating the Jedi was just part of it, yet the Tarkin novel is a bit vague. His schemes may encompass Plagueis' obsession but they're supposed to be next level. Totally trippin' balls. The implied implications are that Sheev thinks he can literally break the Force and become the Master of the Galaxy, a Dark Side God who can reshape reality to his whims.
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>>89272041
maybe they are just space national guard, only there to keep the locals from breaking into the space port, but not actually for fighting

rotj had the black helmet guys guarding the interior of the base, and were sent as backup, but left the heavy lifting to the stormtroopers
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>>89272353
Might as well post the tidbits we get.
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>>89272376
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I like Sabine and completely disagree with anons saying she is bland. But i dont feel like arguing either so here have cool fanart instead.
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>>89272398
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>>89272415
Why is she with a clone of Jango Fett who stole Mandalorian armor?
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>>89264738
>>89264861
>>89264898
>>89264935
>>89264957
Leave my thread, you faggots. Go back to facebook.
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>>89272463
I assume she saw some fame wearing mando armor and was like "Aw hell naw"... Yadda Yadda Yadda... they escape with a begrudging respect for one another.
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>>89272518
>Implying Boba Fett has respect for anyone
That guy only loves himself
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>>89266690
>die to Kenobi on Tatooine
That's where ya wrong kiddo. Uncle Owen is going to end the problem
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>>89272508
4 out of those 5 are canon
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>>89272605
why does this image crack me up so much?
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>>89272597
Why are uncle owen and Aunt Beru so badass in the comics but burning bodies that Luke forgets about in the movies.
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>>89272463
That's actually proooobably exactly what she'd do. She is, or at least was, a bit bounty hunter fangirl. Not just her past dreams of making it big in Black Sun but some of her artwork in the Ghost includes her depictions of Cad Bane and Embo.

Mind you those could just be easter eggs that we've latched onto, hence my elongated probably, but it does sound like something she'd do.

Now I want an episode where she goes on an adventure with Boba then wakes up the next day alone in a hotel room naked in a tub of ice with a note saying he's stolen her armor and she should go to a hospital. Final seen is him wearing her girly armor and prancing around Slave I.
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>>89271983
Planetary defence forces still seem to exist, they're just provided by the planet, not the Empire.
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>>89272786
Most if not all Imperial worlds we've seen in Rebels had Stormtroopers serving basically as de facto cops. It's interesting that they've never run into local police forces, though we know worlds still have them like that background dude in Rogue One who went rogue himself hunting Ponda Baba and friend.

Just from the way they show it it's like yes planets have their own security but on Imperial worlds you join the local Stormtrooper garrison. Though this probably isn't 100% accurate and more for plot convenience, same reason they gave us for using Stormies for everything rather than create any regular infantry aholes.
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>>89272927
I assume Stormtroopers are used when important Imperial assets are a factor, which covers most of what we see in Rebels. Lothal is a super important starfighter factory to the Empire, so they keep a strong garrison posted 24/7.
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bahaha this game is fucked
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>>89267213
Bang Luke's waifu before he does.
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>>89273011
What game?
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>>89273044
You want to bang his sister while he's forced to watch?
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>>89271261

God damn my sides

Kung Pow is such a great movie
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>>89272927
>>89272952
the rebels are known to be interstellar threats, so fall under the jurisdiction of the stormtroopers

the local defense force would probably step in for local troubles, like petty crime, but no reason to do that if there are stormtroopers present
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>>89273141
That's just it, though. Lothal was patrolled by Stormtroopers. So was Garel. That planet where they stole fuel while Chopper scoped out a new leg strut? Stormies too. We have, in fact, never seen normal space cops or planetary security that hasn't been Stormtrooper Corp.

Granted they haven't shown us a lot of worlds. I also don't count some, like Ryloth, considering there was an active insurgency.
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>>89273071
Why not?
That's sure to turn him to the Dark Side.
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>>89273046
Commander by the looks of it
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>>89273278
they dont want to animate foot troops, or black helmet guards, since they cost money to make new models, and the exposed faces mean you need to animate mouth movements

unlike stormtroopers, they only have a blaster pistol and a helmet, and probably do not want to be there, so it will be less fun to shoot them
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So are the Stormtrooper Corps just a branch of the Imperial Army in the new canon? It seems that they function that way. It wouldn't make sense to have different chains of command for the Empire's primary infantry force and their ground vehicle operators. It works so much better if the Stormtrooper Corps is either a more elite infantry branch and normal Imperial Army infantry troops are still the bulk of the ground forces or a special branch of the Empire's military that is reserved for the most loyal soldiers.
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>>89273392
We still see the stormtroopers way too often for them to just be an elite branch.
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>>89273392
they seem to be mobile infantry or imperial guard
they do the bulk of fighting that involves travelling from planet to planet, open warfare, counter-insurgency, as well as acting as military police or garrisons for nominally controlled but highly insecure planets

there are "basic" stormtroopers, who are simply better equipped black-helmet guys, and "elite" stormtroopers who attacked tantive iv
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>>89270968
Sith aren't into relationships as we know them to be defined. They're ultimately a distraction and are best considered tools until disposable. Sith don't really value any connection that isn't inherently useful, and love will always lead back to the light, regardless of the negative emotions that may prevail over time.
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>>89266368
that's the edgiest thing I've seen all day.

The fact that it was likely drawn by a 30-something instead of a 14-year old makes it all the better.
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>>89264684
>this is the same race as pong krell
They are a deadly people
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>>89273370
We know why Stormtroopers were used but cost wasn't a mention, that just seems to be a convenience (after all they can just make a droid security force for planets like on Coruscant, or basic helmet guys like they did for Azmorigan's thugs, etc). It's more that Stormies are too iconic. If they're going to be fighting anyone on a regular basis it's going to be the same people Luke, Leia, and Han fight against. They flat out tell us there is an Imperial Army and regular soldiers, but if you're going to use anyone you're going to end up using Stormtroopers more than anyone else. Otherwise yes we did get some new military guys we haven't seen but they're mostly AT-DP Drivers and so on. Sadly they've been largely phased out.
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>>89273495
What about sevants of the Sith?
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>>89273432
>Q: Are Stromtroopers considered an elite corp of the Imperial Military. Or are they regular soldiers?

>A: Oh man what is the best way of answering this that is fully respectful of the awesome 501st legion? It is easy to put on paper that Stormtroopers are the super elite, the best of the best. But when it comes to having to put them on screen they often fill roles where you can't have the best of the best. I mean if you're going to exhibit a soldier in Star Wars, an Imperial Soldier, you're not going to create some sort of generic military guy, you want to use Stormtroopers. So that means you have to have a mix, and that's true in the movies. If you look some of the Stormtroopers are really good. The guys that raided the Tantive IV, at the beginning of A New Hope, those guys are really good, they really made short work of those rebel defenders. Now compare that to some of the guys that are chasing Han, Luke, and Liea around aboard the Death Star. So it's not an equal mix. Which goes to the argument that these guys aren't clones. You know because they're definitely anything but uniform, you know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulrZlv_Gezo
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>>89273554
Same rules apply, though because they've only gotten a taste of the Dark Side, their ambitions are limited to the slight power trip it provides. So at best they'll probably surrender to some twisted lusts or dom fetishes

That said, their Sith masters will find it distasteful and crude if said indulgences have no actual use
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Would you say Darth Tenebrous was a Bith lord?
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>>89273623
All that said I would have gladly indulged in Atris's lust for me had she only said the word even if it wouldn't have changed anything
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>>89273623
I don't think their power trips are that limited. Seems to be their downfall more often than not. They have delusions of themselves that their skills wind up ultimately being unable to back up. Then they get Maul'ed.

Even Grinky sadly wasn't immune. Too damn sure of himself. I think it's like this hints at >>89272398 . The Force is alive, it's aware, and it doesn't always like you fucking around with its energy. At the most extreme it actually creates someone like Anakin to fix shit, even though he ultimately fails (mostly by being corrupted by Sheev, which is some pretty damn fine scheming in and of itself when you not only fuck over destiny but corrupt its agent meant to stop you). It also has smaller rebellions where Kybers won't allow you to put them in a saber unless you break their little hearts first and corrupt them. Sith and Sith Lite don't rely on the Force as the Jedi do. It isn't an ally or guide. It's a tool. Hell, it's like a beast of burden to them. They break it to make it serve them. They won't accept a higher power that controls their destiny because THEY must be the ones in control. Even people originally trained in the Light Side, Anakin, Kylo Ren, the Grand Inquisitor, end up under estimating the Force. The Dark Side teachings convince them they can master anything. Then when they least expect it the Force fucks them over, often using a Light Sider as the vessel of its just retribution.
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>>89273792
>At the most extreme it actually creates someone like Anakin to fix shit, even though he ultimately fails

From a certain point of view, if you're looking at the shortest way to the goal. He does end up succeeding through the long and horrible alternative, though at fatal cost to himself. One might argue that he was meant to turn. With Dooku gone, it was just Sheev. And as the one and only reality of the Sith states, there can only be two. The Force had the Sith destroy themselves from the inside out as the Sith destroyed the Jedi from inside out. Only with this iteration, the Jedi was on the inside all along.
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>>89273927
you could see it as anakin killing the dogged, ritualistic, jedi order then killing the evil sith, and allowing luke to make a new jedi order that is closer to the original intent

then it dropped the ball on kylo
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>>89273967
I don't think the Force meant for the Order to die. Looking at it now, I think the Order ended up an unfortunate collateral in the fulfillment of the prophecy. The Order needed to change before they became their own worst enemy, most definitely, but just die outright? The stewards of the Living Force? Not likely.

But then again, we've got Qui-Gon and the priestesses swearing Yoda to secrecy about the gift of immortality in the Force, so I guess it wouldn't be above the Force's entertaining the idea of a hard reset.
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Is Plagueis being directly/indirectly responsible for Anakin being born still canon?

I'm not sure if i'm correct but wasn't he killed by Sidious before he kidnapped Maul? That would be around 15-20 before TPM.
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>>89274089
I don't think it's been said yet. I'm a fan of the theory that the thing Plagueis created was Snoke, and Anakin was the response from the Force.
In the old EU, Plagueis died after TPM
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>>89274087
imagien the force slapping itself at the results
>"the jedi order is complacent, let me just drop them a chosen one to shake them up"
>"the sith are up and about let me just kill 2 birds with one stone"
>"hang on, they are colluding"
>jedi order racks up thousands of dead, anakin becomes part of the sith
>"oops, i can fix this is swear"
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>>89274089
Not Plagueis, no, but rather the growing power and influence of the Sith. As to what exactly in this prompts the Force's retaliation with Anakin, that's still on the table
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>>89272605
unless pablo says it's canon, it's not you stupid faggot
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@89274129(Usted)
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>>89274116
I actually wouldn't mind that at all.

>what the hell happened to your face
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>>89274129
The star wars holiday special is canon I think.

I mean Mandalorians sing in a choir all the time right? Right after they get their asses handed to them by a cripple?

One cripple.
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>>89271022
For all we know you could have laced the damn things with Death Sticks and gave people an addiction.
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>>89274129
Are u normally this retarded?
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Catching up on Rebels, just got to where Kanan was official "knighted" by the force in form of the Inquisitor back when he was a Jedi Temple Guard. The fact that he's a knewly made Knight makes me curious about how powerful/skilled he really is. Like, he couldn't beat the Inquisitor for most of S1 (do we know if he was a former Knight or Master?), but managed to beat him at the end.

Does that put Kanan as an average Jedi in terms of power now? Above or below? For instance, how skilled is he supposed to be in lightsaber combat? Taking into account that he was rusty for most of S1, but that he did defeat the Inquisitor and was layer Knighted, how does he stack up against, say, Obi-Wan circa Episode I or II? Or Akakin in II or TCW? Or even Ahsoka in late TCW when she was clearly Knight level? Just curious to hear opinions about his skills.
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Has this guy shown up lately?
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>>89274358
there are no powerlevels in canon, its all luck
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>>89274377
Nope.
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>>89274377
I wouldn't mind seeing him more. He's set up almost like he will be the Rebels Hondo in some ways, but then we actually got Hondo so Idk.
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>>89273501
He's 24.
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>>89274409
Betting we'll see him on Lothal when they make their little journey into Thrawn's keikaku web.
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>>89274358
In canon he never completed ever being a Padawan before order 66. His master was Depa Billaba and she trained him until her death. This is all mentioned and shown in the Kanan comic series which is canon and is about 13? issues I believe. As far as skill I would say that his skills are probably below average compared to TCW Ahsoka. She could probably beat him if they went at it in my opinion.
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>>89274409
That's pretty much why you never see him anymore. There's no point in having Hondo Lite around when you have the real thing.

...Though Hondo's appearances have started getting really formulaic.
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>>89274358
>do we know if he was a former Knight or Master?),
Kanan's training ended at Padawan level due to the fact he was a young man during the Order 66 Purge and had to stop being a Jedi or else he would die. During his time as a Padawan he was under the tutelage of Jedi Master Depa Bilaba, who was also a member of the Jedi council. Caleb Dume was also a pretty good student and could hold his own against Kage Warriors as well as swaths of droids.

He's also very intelligent and can learn on the fly and come up with solutions quickly, when he puts his mind to it. He's not as powerful as Anakin or Obi-Wan, but he's a very powerful Jedi Knight both physically and Spiritually.

Read Kanan, it's a great comic that can possibly help you learn more about him.
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>>89274480
>>89274514
Interesting factoid about Depa Billaba: she was Mace Windu's Padawan, favored Form III lightsaber style, but Kanan seems to have picked up Form III, Form V, and some Form II. Kinda suggests Billaba learned a lot more from Windu than just Form III, or that her Form III was influenced by Windu's Form VII and it manifested as an aggregate style in Kanan.
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>>89274358
I'm not sure about Kanans power levels, but I am absolutely certain that all force-users fluctuate in power with the will of the Force, and becoming in tune with it.
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>>89274739
Oh yeah I forgot she was Mace's student, although it seemed weird at least to me that they made her kind of a fuck up because of how they explained why she was in a coma, they could've done the Shatterpoint route.
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So is Kanan actually a fucking shit teacher and Ezra is a force prodigy?

I doubt the acting is that good but I always thought it sounded like he was just quoting his master word for word without even understanding the meanings himself.

Also, since the crew has a story family dynamic, hera is going to die this season.
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>>89274951
Kanan's a decent teacher, but if you remember a significant amount of his story in the first season was that he had no experience as a teacher and doubted that he could do it. He's stepped up and he's gained a lot of confidence in himself, but this is all still as much a learning experience for him as it is for Ezra.
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>>89274951
But anon, Hera is in rogue one, she can't dead yet
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>>89274951
>So is Kanan actually a fucking shit teacher
Nah, Sabine is just an ungrateful, unlikable brat.
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>>89274951
>I always thought it sounded like he was just quoting his master word for word without even understanding the meanings himself.
He outright says this a few times, though. He did the "do or do not" thing and when Ezra asked for clarification he admitted he actually had no idea what that means. He had to learn how to be a good mentor rather than just parroting advice.
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>>89274951
>quoting his master word for word without even understanding the meanings himself.
I really doubt this since his masters teachings saved him. And he's right, cheap tricks don't save you in a war. Training does.
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is anyone hoping for maul redemption/becomes a "good" guy?

I know it's an impossible dream but I just love rebels-maul, and it's MY dream dammit
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>>89275041
There is no redemption for a person that has killed three waifus.
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>>89274129
There is a small island in the Naboo Lake County called Malderiki, upon which I own a large mansion. Every year afer the first rain, the Sheev Beach Wine Society (of which I am a member) gathers at my mansion to watch the island's natives grovel in the mud as their pathetic straw dwellings are ripped apart by the rising waters. On this island there is also a fish, called a Piranha Giganticus. Coinciding with the first rain, this fish swims into the flooded island and begins to feed on the older and weaker natives of Malderiki. Unable to defend themselves from the killer fish and uttrly helpless, the natives make their way to my mansion in makeshift canoes. At this point, the Sheev Beach Wine Society opens a bottle of pre-empire Chardonnay, dated no later than 500 bby, and places wagers on which native will be the first to reach the high ground of my sprawling lawn. Once the fish has fed and returned to the Sea, there are typically a handful of natives left on my lawn, at which point we activate the electric fence and release the Akalays. Last year, during the feeding, a tiny speck of native flesh was flung from the lawn up to the balcony where the Sheev Beach Wine Society was gathered and landed on my shoe. I retrieved the piece of flesh and placed it in my mouth, washing it down with a glass of Moldovan Pino Griggio. Right now, YOU are that piece of flesh
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>>89275015
winning a fight with a holdout blaster will technically count as a victory, and when the stakes are high you shouldnt discount it, but its a dirty shortcut to victory, it doesnt teach you how to be better at actually swordfighting and when you are up against an enemy who your toys and dirty tricks dont work on you will have wished you knew how to fight properly

its like the darkside, its fast and easy to just blast them when they arent looking, and the results are sudden and solid, but you dont learn anything, there is no growth and you rely on tools that can be taken away rather than an inner strength and discipline
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>tfw some loth-rat takes your Jogans
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>>89275041
Me too! I honestly hope he goes to Obi Wan not to fight, but he's the only person from his last left. I want him to go to him, sit down next to his enemy and just ask what his purpose in life is because he is a broken man. In addition the Obi Wan he last knew Is gone, Ben is a different man because if anything along with Anakin I believe Obi wan died on Mustafar too. Because of this I hope they kinda just talk, put things aside and heal old wounds.
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>>89275041
Nope. He's sunken too far into the Sith pit to climb out. Even now that he no longer wants to be a Sith, the Sith way of thinking is so ingrained in him that he can't behave like anything else. He can't even grasp how basic friendship works because he keeps viewing it through the lens of the abusive master-apprentice relationship of the Sith, that's how damaged how is.
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Henceforth, you shall be known as Darth _____
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>>89275079
You should take HIS jogans as compensation

And by that I mean you should molest him
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>>89275091
Meme
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>>89275091
Dataries
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>>89274514
Sorry, I meant do we know if the Grand Inquisitor guy was just a Knight or a Master when he was a Jedi. I know Kanan wasn't knighted until the episode in Rebels and never finished his Padawan training. And I've heard good things about the Kanan comic, thanks for reminding me of that!
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>>89275104
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>>89275155
We don't know much about him in general, or much about the temple guards and how their whole system worked. I kind of imagine it's mostly knights that work security, though.
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>>89274089
I hope the canon explanation for Anakin's conception is that it was all Sheev's doing, whether through the Force or just plain old rape.

>>89274358
The Grand Inquisitor was a Jedi Temple Guard so most likely a Knight. Kanan peaked in that fight but learning to cope with his blindness probably brought him up to Inky's level. I'd say S3 Kanan is an mid to upper tier Knight, roughly Obi-Wan circa Episode I or maybe even II.
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>>89274951
Sabines just ungrateful and extremely prideful. She's a fucking mando prodigy who went to Mando MIT, left because it was boring and constraining. Then she joined up with another girl to become bounty hunters with the plan of joining Black Sun, saw they were bad dudes, now she blows things up for the rebellion. Now she has to learn how to be a swordsman as well, and she's upset Kanan beat her, though probably for other reasons besides actually losing. It almost certainly has to do with her family, since she ran away, and Gar Saxon says her mother has sworn allegiance to the Throne (of Mandalore? Of the Empire?), so she's upset she'll have to see her mom again.
>UGH! I HATE YOU MOM! Why won't you fight the empire like me?
>Imperial Galactic Healthservice. Paying for healthcare with pre-existing conditions isn't cheap, young lady

I wouldn't be surprised if Sabine ends up becoming the leader of a minority of anti-imperial mandos because she would feel shame if she failed as a leader, and the Imperials are shaming Mandalore through subjugation. I bet Gar Saxon pisses her off for giving into the Empire. That seems more likely than her becoming the Mango-Lord of Mango-World

It would be a big twist if Hera dies this season since we noticed there was an announcement for a Genderal Syndulla in R1.
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>>89275091
Icky
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>>89275220
it would be a dick move to include a "General syndulla" in R1, only for them to say
>nope, just bustin your chops
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>>89275235
Insanius
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>>89275243
It'd be odd given Pablo said it was definitely her. They typically withhold information and give us the old, "Ho ho ho, wait and see!" routine rather than outright lie.
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So it's almost a guarantee that Kanan is going to die at some point, right? Something that will really test Ezra's resolve and to see if he can really, fully resist the pull of the darkside.
How strong will Kanan get before this (or before EoS, if he doesn't die)? Will he officially get to Master level?
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>>89275291
i think kanan will live
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>>89275291
Rex will die before any of the actual Ghost crew do
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>>89275320
didnt they say they wanted rex to be the bearded guy in RotJ?
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>>89275330
That would be some nice pottery.
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>>89275330
I have no idea, if thats the case then its really odd that Rex never said anything to the son of the man he once served with
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>>89265449
>voice acting
>not cinematics
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>>89275362
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>>89275351
until luke started swinging his lightsaber, it would be pretty easy to dismiss it as a coincidence, since his main claim to fame at that point was his piloting skills
and that might have been the first time they met, and didnt have time to catch up
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>>89275389
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>>89275414
Why can't we just got a remake/reboot/spiritual successor to the Jedi Knight games?

That's all I really want. I just want a balls-out multiplayer where I can be a faggot with a lightsaber and Force powers, playing with shitty mods and shitty maps and shitty skins as I gleefully kill people from across the globe.
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>>89275351
Would there really be much to tell, though?
>I served with your father. General Skywalker was one of the best. I wish he were still with us.
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>>89275091
Darth Sodomus
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>>89275469
they probably became total bros after endor
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>>89275441
This would be awesome. And get Bioware to make another SW game in the style of KOTOR to fit in the new Disney canon.

Actually I'd like a new RTS in the vein of Empire at War just as much if not more. I want to play as Thrawn and decimate rebels in huge space battles.
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>>89275469
>Hey General Sk- oh, sorry, I'm used to calling your father that
>Did anyone ever tell you about your father? He was a good friend
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>>89275522
>And get Bioware to make another SW game in the style of KOTOR to fit in the new Disney canon.
Fucking disgusting, why would you want that? You know EXACTLY how the story would go. There hasn't been an original thought in a Bioware game since Baldur's Gate.
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>>89275525
>>89275469
>he used to hang out with this old faggot with a beard, he's probably dead though, good riddance
>haha lets get space drunk
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>>89275597
as long as the game itself is fun, then you can get away with a stock plot
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>>89275597
> BG
Sounds a bit arbitrary, all their games pre-DA2 had the same basic plot, same level structure and basic companion spread.
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>>89274358
I happen to think most of the Jedi are levels below Obi Wan and definitely Anakin. Those two are simply the best of the best of the best. We're just spoiled because they're who we see most of the time.

And as for Ahsoka, she was the apprentice of the best.
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>>89275605
>>>/tg/51299783

most likely, luke and rex are out there swapping stories of days gone by

rex has no shortage of tales from anakins hero days and his own 20 year long history, and luke has seen serious crap like fighting the death star, blowing up a walker single handedly, and fighting vader himself
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>>89274739
His years of living as a non-Jedi probably gave Kanan more insight into the superiority of flexibility. I wish he'd go back to using a blaster more often though.
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>>89274991
Twist. It's Kanan. He and Hera get married and he takes her last name.
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>>89275290
>"Well actually it's a different Syndulla"
>"Just like how there's a Senator Antilles and Wedge and Captain Antilles"
>"So Syndulla's just a common name"

THAT would be a massive hack job, but I'm pretty sure the Rebels will live until at least ESB.
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>>89275015
I think looking at the history of warfare throughout the centuries, "cheap tricks" have won entire battles that have influenced the courses of entire wars (and nations).

It's all in how you define "cheap trick". Elephants, fire ships, psyops, radar, jet aircraft, nukes.
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>>89275786
I'm surprised there isn't a more clever explanation for the three Antilles.
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>>89275351
How do you know he didn't?
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>>89275843
Because I'm George Lucas
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>>89275831
I always figured Wedge was meant to be from Alderaan. The EU decided he was Corellian and had nothing to do with Captain Antilles, but I figured George would eventually try to connect the two. It never happened and nucanon has just gone with the Corellian story.
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>>89275862
Shit like this fucks me up. The likelihood of George Lucas coming here is almost non-existent, but on the off chance he's actually here.

Completely fucks me up.
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>>89275910
Its so strange isn't it, he COULD be here, and you would never know
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>>89275522
I'm on boars for an Empire at War 2 or something. That would be dope.

Anyone know if there are any space-based RTS games out there that have goof Star Wars mods? Playing as an Admiral (like Thrawn) would be awesome.
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>>89275862
George sold out. He can't do shit now, sadly. The white slavers have one.
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>>89275910
We're one of the few places that like George. Of cause he's here.

We love you George.
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>>89275944
>be George Lucas
>browse /co/
>see star wars thread and check it out
>darth icky lol
>why don't they like my clever names!
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>>89275944
That's a lie. We know the man can't right, he said so himself. Coppola tried to teach him but it was kind of a lost cause.
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>>89275968
>right
Hm. My irony detector just shot itself. Poor thing was only two days away from retirement, too.
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>>89275968
If George is here maybe we can ask him to ask Francis Ford Coppola what the fuck he was thinking putting his fucking whore of a daughter in the third Godfather movie.
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>>89275966
>implying George wasnt ahead of the curve with ironic memes

You all like to poke fun, but the truth is, we arent so different from him. He's autistic and likes stupid things just like we do. If he wasnt rich he probably would be here shitposting
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>>89270968
>>89270989

>The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many desires some consider to be... unconventional.
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>>89275991
No, George Lucas is far too busy and honestly he would never even use such a site.
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>>89275988
George would agree given where he put his whore of a daughter in his movie. Well, sorry, twi'lek. Whore synonym.
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>>89275946
Homeworld 2 had one but it was always kinda buggy because it's half finished.

Sins of a Solar Empire might have one but that is more 4X meets RTS.
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>>89276320
SoaSE mod seems cool. Might have to check it out.
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George Lucas is RigNemAnon.
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>>89276505
George Lucas is yet flawed, his words are not some holy writ that is to be obeyed without question, there is always room for personal interpretation
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>>89275968
>We know the man can't right
Oh the irony
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>>89276505
If true what he'd actually be posting is telling us what she is using various god awful puns.

>She is an Ale'ee'in, /swco/
>She is a K'ulbeens, /swco/
>She is a Neragim, /swco/
>She is a Gudfrend, /swco/
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>>89276538
Exactly because we know he can wrong.
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ROTJ Destroyed princess Leia as character. During ANH and TESB she was a brave Princess, someone who fought for her people in a noble cause.

Then, during ROTJ, we discover that she is a Skywalker. And that when it came down to deciding who to trust the fate of the galaxy on, her brother was chosen over her.

And now, although she had the same potential as Luke, to be a Jedi, she is just normal.

It's like suddenly the bar was raised, but she stayed in the same spot.
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>>89276590
she still kicks ass, she still says her fiery lines, she doesnt get to be a jedi but i doubt she would have stayed for more training
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>>89276600

Yeah, but there's no growth with that plot though. She never does anything with it. The focus stays on Luke.

Then switches to Rey, a younger female, and her son Kylo.
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>>89276590
Can you imagine Leia fucking Organa sitting down to learn the Jedi way? She's way too fiery and passionate, she's too much of a getting shit done personality.

I bet after the OT, Luke offered to train her and she just laughed. Then went to go push the Imperial Remnant's shit in.
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http://overmental.com/content/the-secret-reason-why-the-empire-strikes-back-is-the-best-star-wars-film-19110

Thoughts?
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>>89276590
Interesting coincidence. I was reading something about this earlier in an admittedly very shitty website "shit you didn't know" article. Most of it is a mess of various canon, no real shot since these kinds of articles are usually shit anyway. The Leia stuff, however, is relevant.

http://www.grunge.com/32634/false-facts-star-wars-always-thought-true/s/leia-was-a-beloved-character-from-the-start-3/

I wouldn't be surprised that what is seen as her being the ultimate unflappable badass was initially see as her being the galaxy's biggest hardass bitch, because people STILL occasionally say that about her. It's interesting to hear about the writers struggling with her, if it's even true that is. Trying to soften her character the best they could manage was nearly naked slave and then later letting the Ewoks dress her up and braid her hair.
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>>89276620
>Can you imagine Leia fucking Organa sitting down to learn the Jedi way? She's way too fiery and passionate,

We'll never know.

>I bet after the OT, Luke offered to train her and she just laughed. Then went to go push the Imperial Remnant's shit in.

We haven't seen anything to hint at this bit of character development.
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>>89276680
>We haven't seen anything to hint at this bit of character development.
Not yet, no. They're keeping everything about Luke's jedi order VERY close to their chest, presumably because a lot of it is subject to change as Episode VIII and IX get edited and worked on.
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>>89276665
>http://www.grunge.com/32634/false-facts-star-wars-always-thought-true/s/leia-was-a-beloved-character-from-the-start-3/

All of that is accurate. Various parts of The Making of ROTJ book backs that up.

This is sort of the inherent problem though. Men struggled to understand how to write a woman and thus fucked up her character.
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My friends, my friends!

Your old pal Hondo has a special treat in store for you today. While a new installment of Rebels is not yet available, I have been sent higher-quality versions of the previous two seasons of Rebels! 1080p BluRay rips.

As per usual, they are free of charge for you! Links can be found below(and in the pastebin):

>Star Wars Rebels Season 1 1080p BluRay
https://mega.nz/#F!usEzlZJT!CIwq1hFIaZB13lCAcpAQwQ

>Star Wars Rebels Season 2 1080p BluRay
https://mega.nz/#F!ikFAEC5a!-kvTmdyFtfuJ2cNNPGaxog

Enjoy, and may your future be profitable!
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>>89276703
>This is sort of the inherent problem though. Men struggled to understand how to write a woman and thus fucked up her character.
I think it says a lot that they were doing a perfectly fine job for the first two films, but thought they were fucking up somehow.
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>>89276702
>VERY close to their chest

Is that a sly The Dark Knight reference?
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>>89276705
Thanks Hondo!
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>>89276714
It wasn't meant to be but now I wish it was.
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>>89276713
>I think it says a lot that they were doing a perfectly fine job for the first two films, but thought they were fucking up somehow.

The thing is that Leia NEEDED to soften up. She had to change and be a little more dimensional.

But instead of softening her in subtle ways (Treating Han as an equal instead of always giving him shit) they just opted to show her cleavage.
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>>89276729

You could have lied and said YES, but you didn't. You told the truth.

That makes you a good person, anon.
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>>89276733

>they just opted to show her cleavage.

NOT THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT
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>>89276612
The Leia Skywalker twist was a dumb rushed resolution to a plot thread that wasn't meant to be concluded in RotJ. It sucks and adds nothing of value to her character. It just created more contrivance and cheap retcons.

Luke, Leia and Han - they all had a role to play. Leia didn't need to become Luke lite to make her interesting - she already functioned well as a Rebel leader, a wartime politician, a representative of her people. Why throw Jedi into the mix? For all the shit JJ gets for his treatment of the OT trio, turning Leia into a general instead of a Jedi was the correct decision. That was the natural progression of her character sans the twist. When you turn her into a female Luke, you'll lose the Leia as she was presented in ANH and TESB.

Argument that the should have worked with the twist, make something out of it, is of course a valid opinion, but I think we'd lose a more interesting avenue for her character if they went that route. TFA Leia is badass. She's basically Star Wars' Big Boss now. While everyone else buried their heads in sand and Han fucked off to the frontier, she went rogue and built a spy network and an army to fight an insidious enemy who wanted to poison the Republic from within and without.

If she was a Jedi, then what? At best she'd be just Mace Windu to Luke's Yoda.
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>>89276705
Thank you Hondo. If only you weren't such an old fellow...
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>>89276705
Hondo, you're the best as always. Feel free to take a bite from Gunray's guacamole hat. Wings on are me, buddy.
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>>89275180
I don't think they'll ever explain the events behind Anakin's conception
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>>89276782
They might. Balancing the Force is definitely still an issue in the sequels. I'm assuming that's one of the parts JJ didn't stick in since it's a PT phrase and concept.
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>>89276782

(and/or Snoke)
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>>89275522
>Wanting modern Bioware to make a new KOTOR

CD Projekt made Star Wars game would be cool.
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>>89275608
>KotOR game
>If the game is fun the plot doesn't matter
Fuck off.
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>>89276796
Judging from Pablo's recent tweets about TFA's production, we don't have to worry about JJ exericising too much power over the rest of the trilogy. He's an "executive producer" in as much as Nolan was a producer of BvS.

It's starting to seem as if TFA was a contract work LFL used to get people in the seats before telling their own story. A two hour long advertisement. Rian is the true architect of the ST.
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All this talk of new Star Wars games and I just want the next SW: Battlefront to have space battles and galactic conquest.
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>>89276763
>Argument that the should have worked with the twist, make something out of it, is of course a valid opinion,

I wish they would have made the "other" Vader. Yoda could think there is still a way for Vader to turn away from the dark side and Obi-Wan doesn't. Obi-Wan could tell Luke that Yoda never saw Anakin after he fell so he doesn't realize what really happened. Would be a good way to separate the two characters a little more since Yoda is basically just Obi-Wan 2.0.
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>>89276853
>A two hour long advertisement

Kek.

It kind of was.
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>>89276853
The Church of the Force is definitely something they seem to be pushing. I'd hazard, since Lor San Tekka was interested in balancing the Force, that it was one of their inclusions rather than something they picked up and ran with. I could be wrong, though.

I know some people think it is shitting on ROTJ, but I can see what Lor San Tekka's point of view is. The Sith created the Imbalance but it requires more than just destroying them. There is undoing the damage, and stopping the lingering malignity that the FO represents of the Sith's legacy. He was betting on the Jedi finally bringing the Force, and the galaxy, back.
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Did Quinlan Vos survive Order 66 in the new established canon? I wouldn't mind seeing him pop up in Rebels, he was severely underused in TCW.
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>>89276900
How can only have light side users be balance though? Sure the Sith are evil, but Snoke and Kylo Ren aren't Sith. Is it fully impossible to be a dark side user and not be evil? Or wouldn't actual balance be people with Bendu's POV on The Force.
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>>89271003
Legends Novel: Darth Plagueis
Legends Comic: Dark Empire (cuz edge)
Canon Novel: A New Dawn
Canon Comic: Darth Vader
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>>89271253
New Canon says they have normal gender binary.
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>>89276931
the dark side is powered by letting your anger, hate, and fear control you
these people are rarely pleasant
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>>89271834
Of the new Canon novels they range from ok to great, except Aftermath, which is a series of sentence fragments written in present tense by a moron who thinks he invented the gays. Nevermind that 2 of the other canon books have had gay characters and no one gave a shit.

Lords of the Sith is great, but know that it is about half Sith and half about Twilek rebels.
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>>89275091
Shitpostus
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>>89276663
No, that article is utter dogshit.

Aside from the fact that you can make a compelling argument to defend ANH or RotS as the best movies overall, this article says that Empire has better shots than the other movies.

They compare the two Luke/Vader fights, criticizing the RotJ shot of Luke thrashing at Vader, but they miss the entire point. That RotJ shot was much closer up because we're supposed to see Luke's fucking FACE, his angry expression that makes the viewer wonder if he is about to make the same mistake his father did.

It wasn't about giving a certain character a glimmer of hope or power in the duel, it was supposed to be the complete turnaround where Luke loses his fucking shit and Vader doesn't know what to do.

That alone discredits the article IMO, even if at it's core, it's just trying to praise ESB's visual camera work. I hate when people try to sound snobby to prove their opinion is correct, at the expense of having to ignore the point of a scene, or that someone else may just simply have another opinion. While the article is correct to an extent about the high quality of ESB's camerawork, it's not the be-all, end-all of what made the movie work, nor does it make ESB better in every scene.

That's my two cents
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Does wookieepedia still do that retarded shit where it defaults to the Legends version of articles, even for characters who only appear in canon works?
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>>89277044
It defaults to whichever you clicked last I'm pretty sure.
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>>89276955
That would be Frank Castle. Or Bruce Wayne. It can be used for good.
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>>89277044
I think they've been slowly making canon pages the default, but there's still stupid wook decisions here and there.

Such as Formerly Darth, Now Just Maul, still being called Darth Maul, against their own naming rules.

Or when they assumed General Syndulla, Chopper, and the Ghost in Rogue One were more likely to just be characters/vehicles that shared likeliness, and made a new character page for "General Syndulla" until Pablo/Filoni had to spell it out on twitter that it was obviously the character from Rebels.
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>>89277021
>That RotJ shot was much closer up because we're supposed to see Luke's fucking FACE,

Just to use that example, if THIS is what the scene is trying to convey, then why use an over the shoulder shot instead of an actual closeup?

I think the over all point of the article was to point out that good camera work started severely lacking after TESB.
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>>89276955
And the light side (or at least the Jedi, who are the only real ls practitioners we see) essentially wants you to repress your emotions and not form bonds with people.
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>>89276931
They keep the peace, they don't conquer or force, well, the Force. Check this shit out from earlier in the thread:

>>89272376
>>89272398
>>89272420

Sidious was down to some major shit with the Dark Side. On top of that the tyranny of the Empire was driving mass suffering and conflict, generating latent Dark Side. The FO and Snoke are continuing his ambitions.
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>>89276684
kek
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>>89277092
>essentially wants you to repress your emotions and not form bonds with people.
The Jedi do this because they need to be guardians of peace and justice for the Republic. Attachments only serve as a distraction
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>>89277100
I'm not defending Sidious or Snoke or even the Empire or First Order. It's just that by definition balance would need either 1) both light and dark side users, 2) neither light or dark side users, or 3) gray or neutral force users like Bendu.
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>>89277044
>>89277055
>>89277074
For the most part, they've transitioned to Canon as default. However, there are a bunch of minor pages they refuse to transition
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>>89277113
>guardians of peace and justice
>attempting to stage an armed coup against the democratically elected leader of the Republic based on no actual evidence and fueled by the suspicion that he's a member of a different religious sect
Pick one
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>>89277062
>That would be Frank Castle. Or Bruce Wayne. It can be used for good
It can't. Being an asshole isn't the same as being on the Dark side. You are on the dark side only if you are force sensetive.
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>>89277123
If the canon info on something is one sentence and the Legends is a few paragraphs, I can understand defaulting to Legends.
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in b4 Snoke is one of the Crystal Skulls ayylmaos.

in b4 Rey survives a Death Star blowing up a planet by hiding in a Space Fridge.
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>>89277135
The fuck is this?
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>>89277126
ignoring the jedi themselves, the jedi codes heart is about detachment from your earthly possessions, of being at peace and achieving harmony

as opposed to the dark side which is about protecting your earthly attachments, of dominating and controlling
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>>89277135
Snoke is a Beyonder.

Rey and Kylo will warp the reality and retcon the prequels.

Waru is canon.
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>>89277151

the Han Solo and Dr. Aphra comics.

Han was space-racing the blue alien who thought she was the last of her people, but they had actually just moved to another plane of existence. meanwhile, Dr. Aphra's dad is obsessed with the "Ordu Aspectu", a subcult of rogue Jedi who wanted to become immortal, and made their space fort disappear into another plane of existence during a fight with orthodox Jedi who considered their practices heretical.

sticking some glowing crystals into a map on the floor in the temple on Yavin IV did something related to them, maybe, but it was a cliffhanger so who knows what's going on.
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>>89277153
The Jedi also frowns on romantic relationships and indoctrinates force-sensitive children. I agree that the light side is objectively the "good" side, but the Jedi way is all kinds of fucked up.
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>>89276756
I didn't understand why people were so upset when princess Diana died
But then we lost our princess..... and now I understand
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>>89277180
the former is understandable, shaolin monks may not have marriage because it creates attachment, the latter was supposed to be because jedi training had to start young, but they botched the execution
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>>89277117
You keep focusing on the users, but you aren't considering their natures. The Jedi were peace keepers, they weren't acting as tyrants like the Sith. The Sith were trying to impose a regime that would have created untold suffering, fear, frustration, rage, and hatred. They'd already done so by engineering the Clone Wars.

The Dark Side by itself isn't bad. People can get angry or fearful, but too much of it, and worse a regime dedicated to manufacturing it, is indeed imbalance. The Jedi, however, never tried to impose their own rule. They merely tried to keep things getting out of control, they never told people they could be angry. They never tried to wipe out the Dark Side, nor did they have, say, witch hunts to destroy the Nightsisters. Even when they don't agree with you, they don't necessarily have to have conflict with you.

The Sith are different. The Sith crave domination, control, and they will tolerate no rival power. The Jedi must combat the Sith because the Sith will always come after the Jedi. There can be no peace between them, no reconciliation.
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>>89277219
>>89277117
I would add to this that it was NEVER a numbers game, so I don't know why people would even think that having Jedi and no Sith would create imbalance. After all, there was a time before either existed and all signs point to the Jedi becoming Sith due to a schism.

At any rate, consider what just two Sith did. Conquered and enslaved the galaxy. That's all the proof we need that it is NOT numbers, it is behavior.
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Why are so many Sith Lords rich fuckers from old money? Anakin seems to have broken a pretty long streak of affluent, significant people become Sith Lords instead of poorfags.
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>>89277219
I wasn't supporting Sith, I was arguing that the dark side itself isn't inherently evil. It has a tendency to lean in that direction and can absolutely cause lots of horrible things, but it's not necessarily bad when treated in a moderate fashion.

The dark side professes virtues that can absolutely be positive, such as passion and strength and individuality. Not to say it might not promote bad traits too, but I don't think the light and dark side are fully black and white.
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>>89277262
It's not really that rich people become sith, it's the other way around - they sith have been amassing power and resources, so each next master inherits it all.
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>>89277306
But Plaugeius was old money, he came from a rich family. So was Palps. Dooku too, he just lost rights to his titles when he became a Jedi (retook them when he left the order, thus the Count title). Even Maul was the son of the leader of an entire planet, although you couldn't really call them a "wealthy" culture.
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>>89277301
Didn't mean to imply you supported them. I'm not sure the Dark Side actually has a will of its own the same way the rest of the Force does. It may, actually, be an inherent corruption, but nevertheless a natural one in the usual sense that when people stub their toes they start cussing up a storm, etc. I don't think the normal amount generated by the people of the galaxy is necessarily dangerous on its own, and the Jedi, functioning as intended (as I understand it anyway) work to keep major conflicts between people at bay. Head off wars, negotiate. They set themselves up as the agents of the Senate and the Senate, as the democratic union of major galactic powers, was meant to be fair and spread unity and peace.

Not, sadly, immune to its own pitfalls of politics and corruption. Still it took a major Dark Side player to manipulate it.

I think it's hard to say without more information. The Dark Side IS a part of everyone, or at least the potential for it. Negative emotions and the problems they cause. Running unchecked... But are they a true part of the Cosmic Force? Does the Force's own mind have a darker aspect? Or is the Dark Side energy just...there. Generated, but not part of the Force's consciousness? That's a helluva question...
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>>89277262

Star Wars is ripping off Dune again.

"Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible."
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So if the Jedi are forbidden from marriage/attachments, does that mean they can just go down to the red light district on Coruscant for casual sex? Or do they just masturbate like mad? Or are they able to conquer their urges with some force meditation bullshit?
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>>89277301
non-attachment/detachment is a pretty bad trait. That's essentially a lack of empathy or compassion.
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>>89277373
>go down to the red light district on Coruscant for casual sex
You just know Obi-Wan Ben Larry Steve Kenobi did that everyday.
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>>89277373
She usually just went down to the boy orphanage on Coruscant to relieve herself of all that sexual frustration.
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Iron squadron, report in. Lets go fuck up some star destroyers.
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>>89277448
What a cute little boy! Mind if I show you my 'Star Destroyer'?

Get out Rebel scum.
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>>89277500
>tfw SS will never dock her star destroyer at your small trade port
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>>89277520
>her Star Destroyer will never hit the sensitive reactor core inside your space station
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>>89277500
>mfw she actually says to Ezra ''Come at me young little boy''
>later on she kidnaps babies
>Well who doesn't want to be a MOTHER?!
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So, the highest ranked Inquisitor we've seen other than the Grand Inquisitor is Fifth, right? What are the chances Barriss is one of the four unknown higher ranked ones? We know she fell to the dark side and was imprisoned, but no clue to what happened after the establishment of the Empire. Maybe she was the one that captured Luminara before she was killed?
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>>89277633
>So, the highest ranked Inquisitor we've seen other than the Grand Inquisitor is Fifth, right?

We don't know. We literally have no idea on how or if their hierarchy is set up beyond the Grand Inquisitor being in charge. Last time the subject was brought up, even Pablo admitted that they hadn't decided yet on how it goes. That was some time ago though, and they might've figured it out since though, but they haven't said anything yet.

>What are the chances Barriss is one of the four unknown higher ranked ones?

Exceptionally unlikely. Barris was too well trained to be an Inquisitor. She was a star padawan of her time. Vader trained the Inquisitors so that they'd be too weak to pose a threat to the Sith. Barris would be too problematic like Sidious sensed Ventress could've been because her training was too good. IF Barris is alive and the Inquisitors have reason to think she's alive, she's probably being hunted like anyone else trained by the Jedi would be.
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>>89277758
>Vader trained the Inquisitors so that they'd be too weak to pose a threat to the Sith

We trained them wrong, as a joke!
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>>89277393
>non-attachment/detachment is a pretty bad trait. That's essentially a lack of empathy or compassion.
That's not true. Lack of attachment is not lack of empathy, compassion or any emotion. It's simply not letting your emotions control you. You can care about things, you just don't allow yourself to obsess over them. Anakin doesn't fall to the dark side because he loves Padme, he falls because he's terrified of losing her. That terror comes from obsession, from attachment, not love.

You really shouldn't base your understanding of the concept of attachment on star wars. the prequels do a terrible job of getting the concept across, even though Anakin's character arc and plotline revolve around it.
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>>89277758
>Barris was too well trained to be an Inquisitor

And the grand inky was a temple guard.
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>>89277782
That could have just been Yoda fucking with Kanan
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>>89277792
No, Filoni said in a Q&A that the grand inquisitor was one of the guards present during Ahsoka's trial and Barriss' speech made him doubt about the republic and the jedi order as a whole.
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>>89277782
And he was presumably the strongest inquisitor. And guard is not exactly a prestigious position requiring the greatest of skills.
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>>89277782
>And the grand inky was a temple guard.

Who apparently was not anything particularly exceptional. He did surrender after all.
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>>89277500
Docking permission granted, proceed to aft port.
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>>89277817
>surrendered

I didn't realize the clones took prisoners during order 66
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why did George feel the need to break the Force into the Living Force and the Cosmic Force? This shit is stupid and confusing
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>>89277810
>guard whose purpose it is to be able to kick the ass of anyone in the temple, if needed
>not requiring great fighting skill
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>>89277900
>this shit is stupid and confusing

Welcome to Star Wars
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>>89277900
The same reason he thought midichlorians were a good idea.
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>>89277922
>implying they werent
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>>89277900
I doubt it is anything new. Duality at least has always been there since the beginning.
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>>89277922
Midichlorians are fine.

People who still complain about them tend to be the people who have no clue what they actually are.
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>>89278001
What is the concensus? Is it that midichlorians are a result of the force and not the other way around? Like a measurable lifeform that is more plentiful in individuals with more natural force potential?
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>>89277909
>guard whose purpose it is to stand around all day doing nothing instead of actually ever achieving anything.
FTFY.
Protip: You do not assign the best of the best to guard duty.
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>>89278020
they are the intermediaries through with the Living Force connects with people
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>>89278020
Pretty much as I understand it. They just give an easy way to measure force sensitivity.
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>>89277900
Isn't that an EU thing? You know, Lucas didn't personally write every piece of star wars fiction.
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>>89277931
>implying that they were
dude powerlevels lmao
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>>89277931
>>89278001
I see the prequel defenders have failed to completely die out, as of yet. You poor, damned souls.
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>>89278078
Whats wrong with power levels?

>>89278094
Why cant people like the prequels?
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>>89278020
Correct. Midichlorians are NOT the Force, but rather microscopic creatures that flock to force hotspots.

If you train in the Force, and are powerful in your abilities, Midichlorians will flock to you. This is why Obi-Wan mentions Yoda having a high Midichlorian count. It's not because Yoda was born destined to be super powerful in the Force, but rather that Yoda has been training for hundreds of years.

Anakin, being the Chosen One, is the exception of course.

The Jedi, in the last days of their Republic, would measure Midichlorians as a cheap and easy way to detect sensitivity in children, to see if they were worth training. This does not however mean that Midichlorians can measure "power levels", that's another huge misconception.

Remember in Revenge of the Sith, where Anakin and Obi-Wan clash their Force Push equally? If Midichlorians represented power, Anakin should have blown Obi-Wan away. Midichlorians are better thought of as a measurement of POTENTIAL in the Force. And of course, training will increase your power in the Force as always.

Again, Anakin had lots of Midichlorians because he was the Chosen One. They never represented how powerful in the Force he actually was at any given time. They just flocked to him because he was the Chosen One, indicating great potential in him as a Force user.

The two biggest misconceptions is that Midichlorians made the Force "scientific" by trying to explain it, which is just false, and that Midichlorians could be used as a measurement of power levels, which for the most part is not true. I mean obviously if you compare Yoda's Midichlorians to some Youngling, there will be a heavy lean towards Yoda in which you could deduce Yoda is better trained and stronger in the Force. But to two trained Force Users, it still comes down to skill, training, and the will of the Force itself. Midichlorian counts don't really mean shit in the grand scheme of things.

They were and always will be just a method of measurement
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>>89278099
>Why cant people like the prequels?
People can like the prequels, it just means they terrible taste and I pity them.
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>>89278099
>Whats wrong with power levels?
it ruins the mysticism of the Force and turns SW into DBZshit
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>>89278094
fuck off
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I think i have a theory about Anakin's birth, Plagueis, etc. Tell me if that makes sense

> Sheev is Plagueis's apprentice
> Plagueis can create life
> Plagueis creates a child with the Force
> He tells Sheev he did, and that he will be extremely powerful and his new apprentice
> Sheev gets extra mad, murders Plagueis
> His new goal now is to find this child and make him his puppet


That would make some sense to me. By the way i haven't read anything Legends about Plagueis so it might be something exactly like this in Legends and i'm an idiot
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>>89278123
>its too silly to be star wars

I keep seeing this argument, do people think Star Wars is anything other than a silly space adventure?
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>>89277373
You could have sex without falling to the dark side, but as an order of warrior monks they probably hold themselves up to a higher than what is strictly necessary to avoid falling standard of behaviour. They're meant to be above such petty things as physical desire.
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>>89278152
You, know, anon, when you quote someone, you can't actually just change what they said to something else. You're meant to respond to what people have actually said, not just the words you put into their mouths but which actually no one said.
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>>89277900
I like it. All it really is, is labeling the "realm" where people live and exist(Living Force) and the spiritual side of the Force(Cosmic Force).
So it's not really that different. It just adds another layer of depth.
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>>89278128
Well your theory makes sense to an extent, but so far we are under the impression that Plaguise and Sheev didn't realize Anakin was created by him.

It's possible Sheev figured it out once he met Anakin, and immediately began grooming him, but we don't know for sure how much of Anakin's creation is really known to Sheev.

It's possible Sheev never figured out Anakin may have been created, intentionally or accidentally, by Plaguise. It's also possible that Sheev never knew. It might be one of those mysteries that will never be answered. (Contrary to popular belief, Lucas was actually in favor of leaving mystery and unanswered questions in Star Wars)
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>>89277942
>Duality at least has always been there since the beginning.
Except Lucas got it wrong, Duality consists of opposing or contrasting forces, which he's said time and again is not how the Force works.

>>89278260
My question has always been "why are there two?"
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>>89278295
When it's his fiction he can have it do whatever he wants. You not agreeing with it, or me not agreeing with it, doesn't make it wrong.
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>>89278303
You cannot just change what a concept is to fit your narrative, that's not how things work.
There is no duality in Star Wars.
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>>89278295
>"why are there two?"
Because always two there are. No more, no less.
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>>89278250
>implying thats not what you meant

Stop pretending you're not taking Star Wars too seriously
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>>89278315
That's exactly how things work. You learn new things about stories all the time. That's precisely how stories function. If you just started with a known set of facts and never progressed to new information you'd not, as such, have a story.
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>>89278128

in the Darth Plagueis novel, it was more just that Sheev wanted all the power. also, Plagueis was alive during The Phantom Menace until the night before Sheev got promoted to Chancellor.

and while Plagueis does attempt to create life, he isn't successful, but believes that the Force retaliated against him in some way by creating Anakin.
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>>89278331
What does "learning new things" have to do with completely getting wrong a term and saying it is correct?
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>>89278352
> with completely getting wrong a term and saying it is correct?
Ah, I see where your problem is. What was wrong was your assumptions. You made one, it turned out based on how the Star Wars story progressed that you made the wrong one, and now you're pissed. It's understandable, but nothing to fret over. It's just a story.
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>>89278388
What the fuck are you talking about?
Anon said "duality has always been a part of star wars" when this is simply not the case. There's never been any instance of actual duality, a balancing of opposites, or contrasts needing to be around. It has simply never existed and Lucas has even said so.
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>>89278404
Did you never get what the Dark Side and Light Side were? The evil Empire and the heroic Rebellion? Duality has always been there, even in relationships like Han and Leia's. Vader's dual identities. Things never being what they seem, like Luke's black outfit turning out to have a white interior.

Hell, the twins, dude, the twins. A Cosmic and a Living Force is hardly a big thing. If you don't like it, well, sure. You don't have to, but acting like it's some kind of horrific plot twist that ruins the whole thing is a huge overreaction.
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>>89278438
And certain points of view. Don't forget, there's always more than one way to look at a problem!
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>>89277850
>I didn't realize the clones took prisoners during order 66

Well, apparently, in the case of Grinky and some of the other Inquisitors, they must have.
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>>89278479
How exactly would you surrender to the clones? They didn't seem to keen on waiting for the jedi to surrender before gunning them down

And with the chips in their heads, would they even allow them to surrender?
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>>89278438
Duality is about the two forces needing to both exist.

The Dark Side has always been a corrupting force that puts things out of balance. Something that Lucas has said. Not duality

The Empire is seen as the thing that needs to be gotten rid of, and is gotten rid of. Not duality.

Vader v Anakin is never shown that one needs the other. Not duality.

The Cosmic and Living Force aren't even opposing ideas or contrasts in any way. Not Duality.

At best you have Han and Leia's personalities, and even that's weak.

There is no actual duality in Star Wars.
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>>89278507
Dude, duality isn't abou that at all. Do you even know what the word duality means?
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