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>>88961218
>Snoke
>??
>Rey (before reincarnation)

>>88961218
I hope Lucas dies soon.

>thread begins with an invitation to shitpost about Mortis
Great, we're in for a fun thread

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>>88961302

I can't wait to see how Creepio reacts to them and how they worship him.

Old thread is still on page 5, dude. We wait until page 10. Delete this.

>>88961218
force according to jedi/sith doctrine
> light side = not giving in to your emotions
> dark side = letting your emotions lead you
did they get it wrong?

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>>88961415

This is right.

>>88961515

But knowledge can only be gained through a passion for learning.

What do?

>>88961515
>using non-canon shit

>>88961415
It's the two extremes. So of course they will clash.

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>>88961218
Yeah, actually, I never understood those guys

>>88961282
Snoke, Anakin, Rey

>>88961579
It's canon

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_Code

>>88961515
That's not Sith logo.

>>88961218
Personification of the force, like the planet they lived on, Bendu and maybe the five ghost that helped Yoda

>>88961218
Is that guy the same species an Inky? I could see Snoke possibly being one of those.

>>88961218
>WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE FAGGOTS
A trippy dream. Prove me wrong.

>Ghost crew actually calls it Chopper Base instead of Atollon like Commander Sato

>>88961649
At least the Sith one is non canon.

>>88961747
It's all but canon. IT's been alluded to many times.

>>88961218
The stupidest part of the Prequels-verse since midichlorians.

>>88961747
It will be. It's ""canon"" right now - just waiting to be mentioned in some canon material.

>>88961703
If they were a dream then so was smoke-Yoda

>>88961415
>>88961515
>>88961609
but what about the whole "balance of the force" that they're always going on about

also
> girls are often more emotional and boys are more reasonable
are the jedi and the sith misunderstanding the force?

what was the sons end game, what did he need anakin for

>>88961818
>>88961881
>It's ""canon"" right now
>It's all but canon
So not canon.

>>88961747
Maul basically recited it in Twilight of the Apprentice, anon.

>>88961952
The Jedi believe the prophecy of bringing balance to the force means purging it of the cancer of darkness by destroying the Sith

Their beliefs say the Light is the true form of the Force, and the darkness is an artificial corruption of that perfect, balanced state.

They do not accept the light and dark, yin-yang style

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>>88961747
What about the Jedi precursor, the Je'daii Code from Tython? Or was that wiped as well?

>>88962022
Has it been mentioned in a movie, CGI Clone Wars or Rebels?

If not, then it's not canon

>>88962003
that is literally the correct way to look at it.
Lucas said so himself.
There's not balance of light and dark for practicioners. You're either light or dark.
The Sith dying brings balance back to the Force because because the Sith were fucking with it.

>>88961955
Didn't Maul pretty much tell Erza the code in a not-word-for-word fashion?

>>88962108
Yes but until it isn't recited as a whole, it'll remain non-canon.

>>88961952
>what was the sons end game, what did he need anakin for

Sith also knew about prophecy of the Chosen One. During meditation Son had visions of the old Sith lords they said him that the one who controls Chosen One controls force.

>The Son and the story of the Mortis trilogy were created by George Lucas, the original creator of Star Wars.[8] Originally, the specters of the Sith Lords Darth Bane and Darth Revan, two Sith Lords from the Legends brand, were supposed to be behind the Son's influence and complete fall to the dark side. However, this was ultimately cut from the Mortis arc, as both Lucas and The Clone Wars supervising director Dave Filoni believed that the Sith Lords existing beyond death or outside of the Force contradicted the established aspects and meaning of the Force in Star Wars canon.[9]

>>88962108
Did Maul say that this was the Sith code?

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>tfw you were Jesus all along

>>88962173
...

>>88961747
maul fucking paraphrases entire thing in rebels.
its canon

why do they have to keep pushing the darth maul meme
shit character for edgy 12-year olds

>>88962274
Maul is cool

Fuck you

>>88962184
> Darth Revan
didnt he turn good

>>88962188
You think Maul is dumb enough to straight up tell Erza that it's the Sith code?

You think he's dumb enough to recite it verbatim, starting with the words "PEACE IS A LIE"?

>>88961302
wow great maymay haha
mind if i le save it?

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>>88962341

>>88962338
when going through a Sith Temple? and explaining how the Sith worked? Why not?

>>88962287
I don't know. I've only played KoTOR 1 & 2. Never played MMO. Did he?

>>88962398
He got rekd by Vitiate, and then went full remove kebab and decided to commit genocide of sith and all with sith ancestry, but got btfod by sith strike team, but then good half of him died and became a ghost, while bad half went full retard and decided to sacrifce a whole planet just like vitiate to fight him on equal grounds before getting rekt for good by combined efforts of jedi and sith.

No links so far?

>>88962551
part 1 https://mega.nz/#!EYUwFYgA!wJq9G1ovX5YY3v95o5CpjVD_FGYy423i1tvh-fWT-fI
part 2 https://mega.nz/#!5E9wnRpZ!4Py6KUPhmrcccdohvJ7IKmFx6QnsyWEHz09DgUdRxEc

So if size is no thing to the force, does that mean a Jedi could potentially move a planet or moon around?

>>88962624
how is there any kind of a battle if there was force users around if size is no object?

>>88962624
No

>>88962624
No. It's not that size is completely unimportant, it's just that the Force lets you move things that you would physically be unable to move. The reason Luke couldn't lift the X-Wing was because he was still focused on the idea of it being impossible, hence he was dooming himself to failure by already accepting it as impossible. Yoda's advice wasn't literally "the Force lets you move anything of any size" it was "stop worrying about how big the X-Wing is."

>>88962574
Why do you guys keep using mega?

After the the bandwidth and max file size download reduction I can only download 500 mb(aka not even one episode).

Thats pretty bullshit and enough reason to stop using it imo.

>>88962692
So if I don't believe it's impossible to move a planet then I could do it?

>>88962717
Just because its a problem for you doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer.

>>88962727
No, you're still seeing it too literally. Moving the X-Wing was always possible, which was why Yoda wanted Luke to do it.

>>88962750
Literally everyone else is suffering because of the reasons I posted.

>>88962727
Even you would still in some small corner of your mind, consider a planet too big to move. It's just such an ingrained, basic concept.

To be so free that you could consider a planet and everything on it no different to a single grain of sand, you would have to be some transcendent bodhisattva of the force

>>88962761
I see. Thanks dude.

>>88962727
This >>88962786
In theory it's possible, but you would have to be something close to a god to do it

>>88962717
>After the the bandwidth and max file size download reduction I can only download 500 mb(aka not even one episode).
Not my fault that you don't know how to bypass the limit.

So are they going to be smart and recast Leia in Episode 9 or are they going to do the usual retarded route of lobotomizing the movie to work around an actor's death.

>>88962785

I downloaded both eps and had no problems. Mega is useful.

>>88962867
How can they lobotomize something that isn't even written yet?

>>88962867
>implying PS4 Tarkin wasn't a tech test to see if they could replace actors in case of anything happening to them

They're having a pretty hilarious thread on /tv/ >>>/tv/78132466
What ifs, if Rey had been in the position of other previous Star Wars characters.

>>88962928
>hilarious
>/tv/

>>88962108
What did he tell him? I dont remember

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Post all your Anakin pics

So in Rebels.....Was that Rae Sloane?

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>>88963027

>>88963059
No. Credits list her as Captain Brunson.

>>88962977
From the subtitles file:
>Your anger is a wellspring. You must use it.

>Your passions give you strength. And through strength, you gain power.

>You must break your chains. Yes. Use your power.

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>"Ugh. I hate sand, it gets everywhere.

>>88962867
Rework the script isnt always a bad idea, we can see how Ben would react in losing both his parents.
In TFA it seemed like Ben had a closer connection with Leia than Han

>>88963027
Say what you want but Hayden a cutie.

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>>88963027

I want to fuck klick klack

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>>88963150
I'd call you a sick xenophile shitlord, but I wanted to fuck Prince Lee-Char so I can't judge you.

>>88963150
As do I, Anon, there's something so fuckable about his helpless demeanor...

>>88962928
This one made me laff

>>>/tv/78132970

>>88963193
Easily the worst episodes in the entire show

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>>88963061
Ayyy
>>88963113
Who said I didnt think he was cute? Hayden is cute and hot, thats why I asked for pics
>>88963206
Amen, especially when he sometimes has that innocent look on his face

>>88963227
This one is pretty great too
>>>/tv/78133869

>>88963230
Hey I got to see Kit Fisto shirtless and grinning like the dumbass the entire time, I am not complaining.

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When did Kanan and Ezra level up so much? Those jumps and moving a bridge are almost TFU tier

>>88963275
Not really. He's clearly struggling to keep it up.

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>>88963027

>>88963275
they learned it when the plot required them to

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>>88963230
Ahh, I see it's you that sits the shitlord throne.

Fuck you.

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>>88963027

>>88961282
>>88961637
If Rey was the daughter reincarnated it would make sense of how fucking OP she is.

>>88963305
The chasm could have been made smaller, too. The way they handle the force has been advancing, and they used this chance to show their growth.

Also, remember the holocron Ezra with at-st?

>>88963271
>>88963323
Your husbando a shit

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>>88963275
Kanan's clearly been practicing since being blinded. He was a boss that whole expedition.

>>88963340
True. Snoke might be using Kyle to produce a fake Ananin/father, too. With the focus on balance, and his lineage being important.

However, kylo will be the gollum of this trilogy. Rey will save the day.

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>>88963367
We have ways of dealing with the likes of you and your shit taste, heretic.

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>>88963027

>>88963275
Not even close to TFU tier.

https://youtu.be/VhsVF-24Ank?t=51s

https://youtu.be/u0HQQGcVXP0?t=2m32s

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Now that I think about it, I like the Rey Kenobi theory

>>88963429
fuck that was gruesome

>>88963453
C U T E
U
T
E

>>88963470
The what now?

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>>88963027

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>>88963027
>>88963453

>>88963508
Rey is daughter of Obi-Wan and Satine's illegitimate daughter

>tfw Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing probably would have enjoyed The Clone Wars together based on their mutual love of Looney Tunes, and would have probably gotten an episode dedicated to their characters

>>88963509
Is that Jedi standard issue?

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>>88963509
>Tfw we will never fuck 2005 Hayden Christensen

>>88963275
They are progressing in different aspects of the force, Kanan seems to go better with telekinesis and force jumps, Ezra with mind controlling and whatever it is the thing he do with the animals, even if Kanan improved in the letter too

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>>88963541
>illegitimate daughter
illegitimate son
ftfy

>>88963610
>wanting to be a faggot
>wanting to be a faggot that fucks useless actor faggots

you should just really just castrate yourself right now.

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>>88963610

>>88963631
>implying Korkie wasn't discovered as Force sensitive then got recruited into the Inquisitorius

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>>88963027
That was probably the most fantastic mullet I'd ever seen. Kind of touching that Luke ended up growing his out the same way

>>88963663
Too bad I don't have balls.

>>88963340
i dont get the reincarnation supporter

These threads are literally the most autistic thing I've ever seen on /co/

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>>88963027
H-handsome

>>88963703

Newfag detected.

>>88963631
Wait a fucking second who is the dude in the middle

>>88963703
I believe you mean Steven Universe threads.

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>>88963703

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>>88963725
>Wait a fucking second who is the dude in the middle

>>88963725
Satine's "nephew". Who looks half-way between Satine and Obi-Wan. And isn't the son of Satine's sister.

>>88963541
More like Satine's grandaughter, she is a little bit too young to be their daughter.
If anything Sabine is the illegitimate daughter of Obi-Wan and Satine and Rey is her daughter, this would explain why they are trying to push her that much in the show

>>88963750
Apparently there is a third unnamed sibling that spawned Korkie.

>>88963764
>asian girl is the daughter of white man and white woman
That's not how it works.

>>88963764
Except Rey isn't asian, and neither are Obiwan or Satine

>>88963027
Hayden seems like a bro.

>>88963825
is Sabine is Mandalorian, neither is she

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>>88963583
I hope so. Cause I want it

>tfw Anakin's signature flaw is that he never practiced mindfulness; there was always something on his mind to the point of consuming him, thus "your focus determines your reality". The only time we see him meditating is at the halfway point through Episode II, and even then he's still consumed by his thoughts and fear for his mother

Where are the webms of Sabine kicking ass in the new episode?

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>>88963899
I dunno man, she looks a bit chinky to me

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>>88963737
>3rd column
Truly the master race.

>>88963883
Yeah, and he seems pretty laid back, at least to me.

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So if EU Mandos were Space Vandals, what are canon Mangos?

>>88963927
That's just because of the shitty art style and the fact that she dies her blonde hair.

>>88963978
space game of thrones

>>88964011
That's not a race or tribe of peoples.

That's a TV show.

>>88963558
I'm still bummed that TCW never had them interact. At least the Tarkin novel canonized a connection between them.

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>>88963027

>>88963978
Klingons.

>>88962184
what was he going to do once he got control of the force?

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>>88964007
She's space asian, and you know it.

>>88963764
But we're seeing Sabine's mother this very season, if the trailer is anything to go by. That doesn't adds up

>>88963978
Space feudalistic warrior people

>>88964055
Aphra the best space asian. Sabine a shit

>>88963927
>>88964007
I thought in the new trailer we saw Sabine talking to her mother.

https://youtu.be/upN-7ALj2OU?t=100

Her mother looks really asian to me.

>>88964055
Mangos are aryans.

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>>88964055
Literal fetal alcohol syndrome. Nauseating character design to match her equally-worthless character.

>>88963027

>>88963927
Is she? Her skin tone looks weird for a mandalorian, so i get why someone can belive she is an hybrid (is correct to use this word? even if they are from different planets they are still humans)

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>>88964088
>Aphra

>>88961282
Kylo is the balance, justifies his bipolar faggotry

>>88964099
Main world mandos are aryan gods and goddesses

Moon outcast warrior mandos are varying degrees of SE Asian

>>88964088

Confirmed.

>>88963978
Space Germans
>Fought huge wars
>Strong, ancient military tradition
>Lost huge wars
>Adopted pacifism
>Country was horribly devastated by said huge wars
or maybe Space Scandinavians


>>88964007
Trailer shows a women who seems to be her mother, and that woman has black, greying hair. She's (probably) not blonde

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>>88964007
>>88963899
Keep denying

>yfw Rey is Aphra's daughter

>>88964147
>dat pic
[curry in a hurry intensifies]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWa8uPwAV0E

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>>88964137
>Mandalorians
>Mandarins

Not racist in the slightest

>>88963978
From the looks of it, Edo and Meiji era Japan. Particularly the Bakumatsu. The tides of Mandalorian culture during the Clone Wars and the Imperial period definitely suggest it.

>>88964141
Probably Space Scandinavians with a side of Space Mongols.


We'll see what happens with the next few episodes.

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>>88964141
>>88964141
>>Fought huge wars
>>Strong, ancient military tradition
>>Lost huge wars
>>Adopted pacifism
>>Country was horribly devastated by said huge wars

Sounds more like Japan to me.
So does that mean the Mangos are a bunch of weebs?
That would explain their fans at least.

>>88964058
Someone had to adopt her since Kenebi was watching over Luke and her mother was to busy being dead
We saw Sabine watching a drawing of Satine in Maul's cave in ep 10

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>>88964166
>Rey abandons being a jedi completely to go treasure hunting with her mom
>Episode IX has nothing to do with saving the galaxy, it's just Indiana Jones in space
>The whole movie is half action/adventure, half lore dump
Not bad

>>88964122
Everytime.

>>88964166
Incorrect, my dad works at Pablo and he told me Rey's parents are Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade

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>>88961218
I'm still kind of amazed the Mortis arc ever made it to air, it's so weird and seems like something George would have too many problems and nitpicks with to let go.

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>>88964202
Polska stronk

>>88964263
>seems like something George would have too many problems and nitpicks with to let go.
Why would he have problems with it? It was his idea.

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>In a few years there will be people that defend the ST as fervently as anyone that defends the OT or PT today.
>They will go to the barricades to prove that they are the best of all the Star Wars movies
>Everyone else will tell them that they're wrong
>years after that They'll be the majority, and that people that disagree with them are just butthurt.

How does that make you feel?

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>>88964290
All the more reason it shouldn't have been made.

>>88964264
So does everyone in Poland just naturally look like a serial killer?

>>88964202
>>88964141
>Mandofags are the nightmare combination of Weebs and Wehraboos

>>88964301

Nothing, because dumb people are always the majority.

>>88963978
>>88964141
>>88964199
There's no reason to think that all mandos are aryans. They are not a species, they are humans. There is no planet of space blacks, or space asians.

Saw looked perfectly healthy and nothing bad happened to him in the episode.

That must have been a rough two years between Rebels and Rogue One.

>>88964263
on the other hand it's the sort of weird that George seems to like

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>>88963027

>>88964345
>>88964345
>it's the sort of weird that George seems to like
I don't recall any long winded, monotone delivered political debates.

>>88964368
Fucking fujoshi

>>88964344
It's possible he was in the tunnels long enough for the insecticide to start coating his lungs, but the symptoms won't show up for a while. This actually happens in real life, too.

Though it's also possible he goes back at some point.

>>88964344
i would assume so. empire got much more ruthless by anh

>>88964147
Her mom legit is geisha/10 with her hair.

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>>88964393
>women
>in /swco/

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>>88964322
Given their long history of land thieving, murder, rape, bribery, corruption, parasitism, and generally believing they're more valuable than they actually are: yes.

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>>88964368

>>88964420
That guy on the right has a cool outfit though.

>>88964122
I love these. Got the rest?

>>88964442
This one always makes me smile.

>>88964301
It'll be just repeat of the last fifteen years of fandom bullshit, just with PTfags on the side of disgrunted veterans on the offensive and STfags as the new kids on the block, defending their movies. All the while the OTfags split in between as their movies slide out of the main discourse.

There is no difference between any of those groups. You're an idiot if you think that one is better than the other.

>>88964451
He does, it's really the only good outfit in the group.

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I felt bad about Klik-Klak until I remembered reading Catalyst and learned that the Geonosians had a fucked up morbid culture that slaughtered each other for sport. They're basically a hive mind with little value for life.

Maybe the Galaxy would be better off without 'em.

>>88962928
>Rey is mary sue, the thread, the shitpost

Premise is allready unfunny and cover complains, you need to work had to make it funny.

>>88964396
>It's possible he was in the tunnels long enough for the insecticide to start coating his lungs, but the symptoms won't show up for a while.

Does this mean Klick-Klack is boned?

>>88964545
Yeah, probably. As long as he can hatch that egg in some lower cavern where the poison didn't get to, the Geonosian race has a future, but Klick-Klack probably doesn't have much time.

>>88964264
What's with the polish and Mandalorians?

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>>88961218

>post yfw the queen in ghosts of geonosis is the same one killed in the vader comic

>>88964598
I don't think it's anything specifically about the Polish, they're just a group of Mandofags like we have here. They just happen to also be Polish.

And also all happen to look like they enjoy killing small animals.

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>>88963027

>>88964618
It's not. They've confirmed that queen is the same one from TCW, apparently surviving having a bunch of rocks crash onto her.

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>>88964508
>Maybe the Galaxy would be better off without 'em.

Yes. The Empire did the right thing. Roast those fucking bugs to death.

This played in my head during the whole episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na_Zac23b5E

Same during the Geonosian TCW arc.

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>>88964598
Space Hussars.

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>>88964618

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>>88963429

>getting turned into chum
>not metal as fuck

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>>88964654

Weren't there Geonosian zombies in TCW? Damn, part of me was hoping for them to pop up this season. Didn't Rex fight them? I'd think that he'd at least mention "Oh yeah, you know, maaaybe there's still some living undead that want to take over your bodies with brain worms here, so just...watch yourself, haha!"

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>>88963027

>>88964729
Yeah, as far as i remember Rex did fought the zombie Geonosians. Another detail is that maybe the egg from this episode hatches into the Queen that appears in the Darth Vader comic

I actually like Sabine. There's nothing wrong with her character. I would totally go on adventures with her.

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>>88964643

>>88964816
She was cool until they decided she was a main character

Rebels, as with all SW media should be 'Jedi Only'

>>88964816
I like her in smaller doses. She works as a side character, but she doesn't really work as well when she's the focus of an episode.

>>88964816
There's nothing wrong with her character, but the impact of her stories has been incremental and uneventful at best due to how divided the Mandalorians are now.

>>88964893

The Darksaber is the key to all of this.

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>>88963027

>>88964870
t. George Lucas

>>88964870
>Without Lightsabers I have a short attention span

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>>88964582
I hope the egg is dead. I'd like it if the Empire actually succeeded at a total genocide of a species instead of it getting an out and rendering all that effort pointless. One thing Rebels in particular has spectacularly failed to accomplish is show why it is entire systems were afraid to rise up against the Empire and why the Rebel Alliance only had scattered sympathizers throughout their time. Where's the actual fear? Where's the knowledge that to defy the Empire is to write a holocaust check your ass might not be able to afford to cash? I would truly love it if "Are you crazy? Remember what happened to Geonosis?" became a boogeyman lesson told across the scope of the Empire, where the systematic and deliberate obliteration of an entire species and the scouring of their world serves as a warning, and as a motive for all but the most reckless, disgruntled, nothing-left-to-lose, or Jedi-imposed altruistic do-gooders to keep their heads down and just accept the new order could be so much worse but isn't as a reward for loyalty and obedience. Instead, they pussyfoot around giving reasons to actually fear the Empire, like the "oh they evacuated Tarkintown" or "the Lasat didn't all get wiped out and they have a new homeworld and "hey, they left a Geonosian alive with a queen egg" half-assedness. SHOW us the money. SHOW us the ruthlessness. SHOW us the scope of the depths of what the Empire is actually capable and willing to do, even before the Death Star, to justify why the Rebels were on the back foot for years due to lack of support. That all these events get the easy outs just makes the Empire into buffoonery instead of a terrifying monolithic presence that would inspire the acceptance of its oppressive policies without mass rioting on every world.

>>88961218
>that right character
is that Palutena?

>>88964816

She's would be a good character if she had any consistent growth or overall struggle as a character.

She never regresses, but she never changes.

She's boring and overly competent.

>>88964948
Look I lied the Gregor episode as much as the next guy, but Jedi are what get butts in seats. Nobody cares about strong independent mango, she don't need no man

>>88964870
>She was cool until they decided that she *should* be a character

She's finally turning into something more than a seat filler.

>>88964953
But if Alderaan is any indication, that kind of widespread knowledge of the Empire's horror actually has the opposite effect and just inspires more people to fight against it.

>>88964893
Pretty much this, she is just bland.
I dont get why they are trying to make her the third MC, if they dont have plans for her in future

>>88964643
I guess this qualifies for what I asked for, kek

>>88964981
When will they fix Zeb?

>>88964953
Agreed.

The era is called Dark Times for a reason.

>>88965054
Zeb had his moment

>>88964991

That's what I loved about the new comics over the old eu.

It actually goes out of its way to say that with the death star gone, the galaxy has gone into basically widespread anarchy and lawlessness, and that the empire has a war on its hands and not just some scattered insurgency.

>>88964971
>characters that know what they're doing are wrong

I like the fact she isn't constantly fucking conflicted or confused. There's only so much inner conflict a show can have before it's dumb

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>>88964122
I mean, look how blatantly and obviously evil Jacen Solo looks at this fucking funeral...

>>88965044
>>88964823

desu, when I was little I wondered that too. Why didn't they just fucking share with him? Its not like they had any reason not to other than he was a fucking rabbit.

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>That feel when you get called in on your day off and can't see Star Storm in 3D with the rest of your squad.

>>88965101
yeah, like I'll be straight up, i wondered that too. it was kinda like they were bullying him

>>88965101
>other than he was a fucking rabbit.
the sugar in Trix would have fucking killed him.
did you want them to kill the rabbit or something?

>>88965077

True, but its not inner conflict or confusion. Characters need some form of change or growth present in their arcs.

>>88964458
http://www.funnyjunk.com/Kyle+katarn/funny-pictures/5750511#b2af67_5750067

>>88965105
Let me spoil it for you: they destroy father

>>88965131

>selling a cereal capable of killing something to kids

I'm not sure if this is what the advertisers were going for.

Did new rebels leak early???? It's on Kiss Cartoon and it is new episodes

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Please respond

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>>88965180
God fucking dammit.

>>88965167
>linking to funny junk
>>>/g/
>>>/e/
>>>/t/
>>>/out/

>>88965206
Not necessarily early, but yes.

>>88965232
>>88965206
The audio is messed up

>>88964816
Huh, interesting. Personally I found her to be especially annoying this episode.

>>88965206
Early in the sense that the episode was available on demand and on the Disney XD service hours before the broadcast premiere, but that's been the case for a while.

But short answer yes, the new episodes are out.

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>>88964991
Alderaan was taken to an extreme even the most passive soul was bound to take notice of, and the rapid destruction of the Death Star following it made any fear effect it had fizzle and become stillborn. Had the Rebellion failed to destroy the Death Star at Yavin, that effect wouldn't have occurred, because every world would exist under the threat of "we could be next". Again, half-assedness that doesn't explain why the Rebellion didn't get a huge backing all the years before the Death Star, not without something to keep passives being passive. If all the Empire did before Alderaan was fail, as is what keeps happening, why is anyone actually afraid to rise up and fight? They have no reason not to, without a signal guarantee that to do so invites the possibility of unleashing horror in their cities and streets and skies.

Alderaan was so heavy-handed it literally pushed entire systems into changing their mindset from "if we do this, this might happen" to "if we don't do this, this might happen", which is throwing fresh kindling into any insurrection's fire. Couple the destruction of Alderaan with the dissolution of the Senate and any chance of legitimate representation within the Imperial apparatus and it was practically a given worlds would throw support behind the Rebellion out of desperation. But there's been no reason they wouldn't do that prior to Alderaanm, given years of a subservient and powerless Senate, and I want there to be.

>>88965284
>>88965238

the new episodes are NOT out you FUCKING IDIOTS

>>88965303
>>88965303
They are, you aspie.

>>88965303
Then why did we have download links this morning to the two-parter?

>>88963730
What is this from?

>>88965237
Nah, I think I'll stay. You can go if you don't like it though.

>>88965356
deviantart. I imagine

>>88965303
Yes they are, get busy watching them and stop sperging out.

>>88965303
They are. We had a stream earlier this morning as usual. There's mega links here >>88962574 since you can't even be bothered to skim the thread.

>>88965303
I guess I must've imagined just watching them then.

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>>88965356
From the new hit spin-off Star Trek show, "Keeping Up With The Cardassians"

>>88962184
So it's also Dave's fault for that Sith not being bale to become ghosts nonsense.

>Rocket troopers fighting against 2 Clone Wars vets and 2 Jedi
>Super special mando beats them

>>88965459
Here we go again.

>I was very apprehensive of this scene...because of the implication of it: which is that these Sith Lords could separate themselves from the Force and somehow talk to the Son. That seems like a big deal.

>But eventually I got a call from George, and he said "You know I've been really thinking about this, and we should really take that scene out with the Sith Lords"

>And has disappointing as it was...it was absolutley the right thing to do - because they can't exist in that form; they can't exist in that way. But I think for fans it would be neat to know that at least that idea was considered, we went very far with it, that in the end after discussions it was really George that said "No, I thought this would be good, I wanted to do this - but it doesn't jive with my bigger explanation of the Force.

https://youtu.be/rFvj026dFxk

>>88965527
I was actually pleased the rocket troopers were taking it to them and doing pretty well, right up until "look at me and my new jetpack" showed up and stole all the thunder from not just the troopers but the Ghost crew and Saw as well. Sabine is fucking cancer.

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Ben Solo
>Ugly and pasty looking

>Gets owned by a Mary Sue in her very first battle

>Kills one of the most beloved characters in the franchise, his own father without hesitation, thus getting rid of any chance that the audience will ever feel sympathy for him and his "conflict" regardless of how the movies will try to play it that way

>Throws temper tantrums

>Revan look alike to draw KOTOR/TOR kiddies who don't know any better

>Snoke's bitch

Jacen Solo
>Character arc that spans several books over many years so you see who he was and how he changes throughout different points in the series for either better or worse

>Hesitated to kill his aunt

>Wicked sense of humor

>Handsome as fuck, no wonder Tahiri stopped pining over Anakin long enough to gib up dat Tatooine, Vong scarred ass

>Fucks bitches

>Had enough humanity left to let himself die at his sister's hands so his daughter would live.

>Only wanted to unite the Galaxy and make it safe after having endured a bloody invasion by merciless and nearly unstoppable race of religiously motivated eco-terrorists, which saw his brother, his friends and millions of lives across the galaxy killed without mercy.

>Probably has more spiritually in common with Revan than Kylo Ren does without having to rip off Revan's fashion sense

>Was his own boss

>Doesn't fucking talk to his grandfather's skull

>>88965527
>>88965599
Sabine wasn't the only one to kill rocket troopers you fucking memers

>>88962184
What? But they used dark force ghosts with the nightsisters

>>88961218
>that pic
no really, what's the lore behind those 3

>>88965647
No, she just killed all the rest of them. By herself,. With no support from anyone else. Effortlessly.

Cancer.

>>88965689
You do realize she's a trained warrior, correct?

>>88965647
>Ezra is fighting with another Jedi, two vets.
>Rocket troopers are doing okay.
>Sabine comes out
>"Oh now they are in trouble!"

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>>88965687
Autistic stupidity.

>>88965717
Because everyone else present isn't, right?

Cancer.

>>88965734
>PadmeJedi

W A N T !
A
N
T
!

>>88965663
The nightsister magic is not inherently dark side.

Not to mention that they don't work like literal Force ghosts. They are more like shadows, lingering spirits tied to a certain place.

>>88965724
>Rocket troopers are doing okay.
they were getting fucking owned

>>88965764
They were wrecking troopers too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qORqGCWKaQ

>>88965642
>his own father without hesitation, thus getting rid of any chance that the audience will ever feel sympathy for him and his "conflict" regardless of how the movies will try to play it that way

You clearly watched that scene wrong. That said, audiences need to grow up.

>>88965766
>it's okay if it's done this way but not okay if it's done this other way

Apologist nonsense. Fuck you.

>>88965821
Well, yeah. Those are not the same things.

>>88965766
>nightsister magic isn't inherently dark side
I dunno it seemed an awful lot like the Dark Side to me

>>88964870
Fuck Jedi Only.

What if Obi Wan actually did have an illegitimate child with Satine and Rey is the child of that kid, making her Obi Wan's granddaughter?

>>88965860
If the end result is the same thing, then yes, it's the same fucking thing.

>>88965896
There are more factions in the Force then the Jedi and Sith, they don't all use the Force in the same way.

>>88965766
They found another way to do it, and they can even possess bodies.
Their dark side is tied with the planet, probably because the dark side is strong in that place (place of origin of the force like dogobah but with the dark side?)

>>88965896
>If the end result is the same thing
But it's not
Nightsister spirits were
1) bound to an object
2) not entirely coherent
They are just shades of the people they once were.
Obi-Wan and Yoda are themselves, reaching back into the world from the Force, and that's what Sith cannot do.

>>88964953
I kinda remember Toprawa being that bogeyman in the old canon.

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>>88965642
>Kills one of the most beloved characters in the franchise, his own father without hesitation, thus getting rid of any chance that the audience will ever feel sympathy for him and his "conflict" regardless of how the movies will try to play it that way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK2fNG26xFg

>>88965918
Still, they used the dark side to do it

>>88965937

Oh i think Talzin was in herself when she was trying a better host to rebuild the nightsisters

>>88965766
Its about trapping souls and draining life force and making zombie armies. It, at the very least, dips its toe into to the dark side

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>>88965642
>without hesitation

>>88965642
I am so fucking sick of the "Rey = Mary Sue" shit. It's basically become shorthand for people complaining about her character but not being smart enough to come up with actual criticisms so they parrot everybody else.

At the risk of derailing the thread, I am 100% confident that Rey wouldn't get half of the shit she does from the Internet if her character were male.

Sabine is such a badly written character, made worse by a terrible voice actress.

Calling it now, her episodes will once again be the most boring of the season.

>>88966136
Yeah, at the risk of derailing the thread, you SHOULD shut the fuck up.

There is a reason we love well-developed characters like Ahsoka, but call Rey a Mary Sue, so it sure as shit isn't because everybody who disagrees with you is sexist.

Maybe just maybe, it's because Rey is in fact, a Mary Sue.

>>88966220
She was ok in todays two episodes.

No character development or anything, but she wasn't annoying, and she was pleasant to watch, served her purpose well.

Her only real problem is lack of interesting development.

why does Ahsoka have white lightsabers?

>>88966236
You should stop spouting buzzwords and actually give real criticisms. "x character = Mary Sue" is indicating to me that you don't know how to articulate so you just spout nonsense Internet lingo.

>>88966136
>I am 100% confident that Rey wouldn't get half of the shit she does from the Internet if her character were male.

And you'd be wrong, dumbass.

Notice how no one has called Jyn a mary sue.
We call em like we see em.

>>88966338
>Notice how no one has called Jyn a mary sue.

Lots of people did when the first trailer came out.

>>88965724
>Rocket troopers using high ground, cover, and shifting positions, total numbers between a squad (that started) and a platoon (which seems to be the number that was killed)

>ghost crew out of cover, standing still and low ground, 4 of them

better question is, how did they even survive at until before Sabine flew up and killed the Rocket troopers?

>>88966327
because faloni is a hack

>>88966136
I'm okay with most of Rey's power level. If she turns out to be a Skywalker then she should be very strong with the force, pilot well, etc. The one thing that steps over the line for me was when she mind tricks the stormtrooper, which felt less like a Mary Sue moment and more like they wanted Rey to escape on her own but couldn't think how so they just went "HEY REMEMBER JEDI MIND TRICKS?"

What annoys me is how the dialogue is always written to put into the spotlight how competent she is. When Finn grabs her and runs and she tells him to stop grabbing her hand and runs faster than him; when Finn nearly gets rekt and then asks Rey if she's okay and Rey gives the "what, me?" face; when Han asks where the pilot is on the Falcon and acts incredulous when Rey says she's the pilot... the list goes on. And yeah, this is a gender thing, because all of those instances are implicitly Rey defying expectations of her as a woman. The result is both a kind of preachy feminist tone whenever Rey is on screen and a constant reminder of her inexplicable competence. Luke and Anakin may be Mary Skywalkers, but their movies never went so out of the way to point out how strong they were.

>>88966327
Same reason Mace got purple.

They asked nicely.

>>88965136
It's best to look at Sabine from the Mandalorian perspective. Even as atypical as she is in many respects, such as her art, she's still very keen on their warrior aspects. Her friends are her friends, but they aren't Mandalorian. They're still outsiders. She was raised by a very closed society. This includes her withdrawing from others, tending not to show weakness, and generally having a difficulty with change. True warriors shape their own destinies, they aren't shaped by them, etc.

That isn't to say she isn't immune to showing uncertainty or expressing her feelings but she resists it. And honestly being a teenage girl hasn't helped.

It isn't like this is restricted to Mandalorians. Zeb is often the same way - he's their big warrior guy, after all. But he's able to laugh at himself and will let people in, especially when he's uncertain. She typically doesn't. Zeb likes remaining largely uncomplicated, she's can be fairly complicated (especially in an annoying teen girl, "You're not my mom, Hera!" way).

Like Ezra some of this has changed as they've grown older. It's development not really seen on screen, which some people hate, but then aging is biological development rather than strict character development.

And then some people just WANT to hate her. Like this rocket trooper debate. Sure rocket troopers are neat and vastly underutilized but they're still Stormtroopers for fucks sake. Why do people expect them to be so much harder to kill? Sabine just surprised them by meeting them on their own terms, but she only achieved a double kill with her blasters (a common move from her) and and took two others with explosives (her signature move). Big whoop.

This isn't to say Sabine has been a completely satisfying character or that I'm personally satisfied with her. They said they were going to make her a larger part of the show in season 2 but it didn't really feel like they achieved much with her. Even Zeb's Lira San excursion felt more satisfying.

>>88966443
Because these kind of shows have always been bad at portraying battles in a realistic way.

I don't mind, but still.

>>88966499
but purple is a dumb color

>>88966327
Lightsabr crystals are sentient, and when used for evil they "bleed", making the blade they produce red.

White blades are evil crystals that have ben restored and purified

>>88966336
>y-you don't know what you're talking about.

How about YOU answer to ME why Jyn and Ahsoka have been accepted with open arms then?

If everybody is just sexist, why is it that of the three major female protagonists, only Rey is criticized as being a Mary Sue?

Here, I will answer for you.

Unlike Jyn and Ahsoka, Rey is;

>The most skilled and valuable character in the cast from the very second you meet her
>She's the mechanic
>And the Pilot
>And the Force-sensative
>And the Mechanic
>And the best shot
>And the best when it comes to melee
>Everybody falls in love with her the moment they meet her. Nobody hates her, not even fucking Kylo.

Let's see, what other bullshit;
>Learned to aimbot headshot stormies after missing once
>Figured she could use the force on a hunch, and proceeded to mind trick a Stormtrooper on her second try
(it took Ezra a year of training with a teacher, and Luke much longer without a teacher)
>Survived alone for years in a wartorn shithole, and is somehow compassionate enough to not sell a droid for food because... It made cute beeps?
>Defeated a force sensitive, trained by Luke Skywalker
("b-but he was injured!", Kylo had very little difficulty defeating a trained Stormtrooper, but a teenage girl overpowered him?)

Face the fucking music. The most criminal thing about Rey is she's fucking BORING. Nobody wants to watch a movie where the hero is literally perfect, does everything flawlessly, all the characters love her, she has not a single negative trait, and never loses a fight.

>>88966405
No, some people expressed fears she could be one after Rey, but Jyn proved to be a perfectly well rounded character, who wasn't so good that she overshadowed her fellow Rebels.

>>88966547
>source: my ass

>>88966482
To be honest they should've just given Finn the pilot thing. The more the movie went on the more it felt like he was just tagging along.

>>88966571
>source: canon

>>88966571
Try the Ahsoka novel where it happens.

>>88966571
It's in the Ahsoka novel, dude. People have been throwing a fit about "bleeding" crystals because they heard about it and thought the crystals now literally bleed actual blood.

>>88966571
Not him, but

>Source: The Ahsoka Novel

In the book, she literally kills and Inquisitor and purifies the crystals. Pablo has also talked about it on his twitter, I believe.

>>88966405
>Lots of people did when the first trailer came out.

This, once again, shows how shitty the fanbases are.

>>88966571
no, its pretty correct. She purified inquisitor crystals, and they became white.

>>88966571
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kyber_crystal
>Kyber crystals were inherently attuned to the light side of the Force, and would attempt to resist any effort by dark side practitioners to utilize them in lightsabers. To this end, the only way a Sith, or other darksider could make use of a kyber crystal was to use the Force to dominate the crystal, bending it to their will. This process would cause the crystal to "bleed", as if it were a living organism, resulting in the distinctive crimson-bladed lightsabers synonymous with the Sith. However it was also possible to "heal" a kyber crystal corrupted in this way. The only known instance of purifying a corrupted kyber crystal was when Ahsoka Tano purified the two crystals she retrieved from the Sixth Brother's lightsaber following his defeat. In this case, the crystals turned white.[3]

Welcome to the future, nigga

>>88966576
But then he wouldn't have an excuse to break Poe out, and thus an excuse to get caught up in the Resistance's plans

>>88966567
>She's the mechanic
Makes sense, considering how she's been dissasembling spaceships and other junk for years
>Force-sensative
duh
>And the best shot
That's just not true, Finn is a much better shot than she is
>And the best when it comes to melee
She's been rolling with a melee weapon all her life. Of course she'd be good at it.

>>88963340

Oh fuck right off can we just kill this Super Mary Sue

>>88966547
Not "used for evil" that does that, it's reaching out to them with the Force and deliberately corrupting them. You only have to do that if you're a dark side prat building a lightsaber, regular non-corrupt crystals don't want anything to do with your edgy fuckery until you pump some Linkin Park into them via the Force.

Ahsoka's white kybers were after she reached out to the crystals in an Inquisitors saber and caused his blade to malfunction. The crystals are very finely tuned in the Force. Her actions resulted in them retuning to white but that was more incidental than intentional.

>>88966482
>When Finn grabs her and runs and she tells him to stop grabbing her hand

I think that was a nod to Leia, but overall you are right

>>88966136

There's a Mary Sue test that's been around for years that covers fanfics, sequels, original stories, and a bunch of other shit, and it's gender neutral to the point of using crazy third gender pronouns just to be absolutely impartial.

Nobody who's EVER run Rey through it has ever come back with under triple digits. This is even being completely charitable and assuming that nobody on set had anything but the best motivations possible. It's just not possible because of the sheer VOLUME of insane bullshit Rey pulls that goes many times past what anyone does in either trilogy OR Rogue One OR Rebels.

>>88966632
>Finn is a much better shot than she is
When is this EVER shown? It wasn't, don't try to tell me Finn is shown as a better aim at any point in the movie.

>She's been rolling with a melee weapon all her life. Of course she'd be good at it.
I never said she shouldn't be good at it. I'm just saying it's yet another thing on the long list of things that she is somehow the best at. Reminder that Stormtroopers also get extensive melee training with various weapons too, and yet Finn is consistently incompetent next to Rey no matter whatever weapon he is holding.

>>88966567
Aside from the Force, all of those skills are things that make sense given her background. She raised herself as a scavenger, taught herself how to fly and fix things, and used a weapon to defend herself. The only ones that are iffy are the Force and the blaster, but everything else makes sense and doesn't come from nowhere.

>>88966659
But what stops you from not corrupting a crystal? Why can't you just take a crystal and use it?

>>88966327
The force guided her to them
It's not like white is a rare color, the old detective jedi had a white lightsaber too

>>88966632
>Makes sense, considering how she's been dissasembling spaceships and other junk for years
That's fine, but she knows more about this shit than Han. Even regarding the Falcon.

Why does she have to be the best at everything? That's not what people want in a character. Just because Han is impressed, doesn't mean it's the thumbs up for the audience to be.

That's literally cheating. "Oh, Han loves her, she gets an A-OK for me, welcome to Star Wars Rey!"

when a Jedi leaves/is expelled from the Order, do they have to relinquish their lightsaber(s)?

>>88966686
>It wasn't, don't try to tell me Finn is shown as a better aim at any point in the movie.
When he's manning the guns on both the TIE and the Falcon, but even then he's not an amazing shot.

>>88966686
>When is this EVER shown? It wasn't, don't try to tell me Finn is shown as a better aim at any point in the movie.
How about when he picks up a blaster after X-wings arrive and shoots three stortroopers in a span of about a second?

>>88966713
At least according to Kotor 2.

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>>88966707
>on my way to fuck yo bitch

>>88966405

Yes, because of how Rey was portrayed.

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>>88966711
She also gets a hug from someone she's never met before