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What is she, /swco/?

>>88902231
I wonder if Obi-wan is going to use the shrinking trick against Maul

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>>88902036
Reminds me of the time they gave Dooku a force clone to explain how he died in a GBA game
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger_of_Dooku

>>88902231
>Star Rebels The Animated Series Wars
also durge a best

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Xth for the Duros Affirmative Action League

>>88902231

Has a full scan/phone pic version of the Rogue One Ultimate Guide been done?

>>88901940
>The ones I hated most ironically enough was the Lando Calrissian trilogy, which was preposterously edgy, just absolute racist torture porn and depravity. I have no idea how those got in, it's a million times worse than Splinter of the Mind's Eye.
Lando gets tortured by badguys like what, three times? And one of them was really weird force memory torture. Only the "Tied up to a cactus-thing in the absolutely dry freezing cold" had maybe a little too much detail with his skin starting to crack.

It just made his triumphs all the sweeter in the end.

Also where are the X-Wing books you monster? If you're gonna include Courtship you gotta include the Wraiths at the very least, preferably also the Rogue Squadron books.

I, Jedi was quite good as well. As was the Non-Adventures Han Trilogy

Black fleet crisis was take-it-or-leave it (DEFINITELY leave-it in the case of the luke subplot, I get that he needed to be away for the main plot to take place but this was crazy.)

Most of the WEG Adventure Journal stuff was fun, as were the Bantam collections thereof and the other Tales Of/From books. (For the most part, some were wanky or campy)

Hand of Thrawn duology was also good, as were most parts of the Galaxy of FEAR kiddie books (Goosebumps meets Star Wars was a shockingly huge success other than the whacked out powerlevels like the first book's antagonist), and the Young Jedi Knights YA books

I liked the kid parts of the Jedi Academy Trilogy and Crystal Star, but not the bulk of either work, and some of the scenery descriptions in Children of the Jedi (Belsavis was cozy as fuck even though I know I'd personally be miserable living somewhere with no middle ground between humid, sulphur stinking jungles and glacial iceball)) and Darksaber was an example of how close a book can come to perfection before falling into an abyss of mediocrity.

I have a completely different set of opinions on Del-Rey era books, but I've read fewer of them.

>>88902349
ayy

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When the Emperor exploded into blue energy in ROTJ his spirit rocketed back in time and sought to latch onto the most evil being available to sustain himself.

He found Chopper.

He made a terrible mistake.

>>88902403

pls no

So when is Luke appearing in Rebels

>>88902442
When we can find someone who can get the whining down spot on

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>>88902435

>>88902442
I'm betting Season 4 will take them straight up to Rogue One. Then there is nowhere to go but between episodes IV and V. Luke being aware of other force sensitive skin might Bork thinks but who knows.

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posting best blaster

>>88902304
Dead.

>>88902304
Nig Rema, the space nigger.

>>88902442
When we get the see the Toshi Station.

>>88902559
Now now, she's actually Third Sister. Because no member of the Jedi Order had as high of a body count as she did, just on sheer medical incompetence.

>>88902231
>STAR REBELS THE ANIMATED SERIES WARS

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Why did they have to kill off 8Bro? He could've been a good insight to the Inquisitors and the fate of force sensitives under the empire, especially if he'd been taken alive.

Unpopular opinion time
I like maul in clone wars, even if him being alive was dumb the way I thought darkside infighting was pretty cool. In rebels I am still not sure how I feel about him.

I would love if to sort of parallel the whole 'You can get married in Luke's Order' thing from the EU they make it where Luke's Jedi don't mind using the force for menial shit like throwing things away halfway across the room, etc and it's explained that the Jedi should revel in the force and use acts like force grabbing something from across the room to remind them of the innocence of the light side. Make it where the prequel Jedi being oppressive when it comes to menial force abilities was really unnecessary and was a byproduct of their obsession with the light side (is moving a pear across the room really abusing the force? Really?) and was part of what led Anakin to turn to the dark side because they made him be too cautious to the point that he couldn't use his abilities in the simplest ways without being punished.

To clarify I don't mean that I want Luke's Jedi having relationships. I just want them to be less oppressive than the Jedi of the Republic.

>>88902231
Oh god, I cannot wait.

Darth Maul squaring off against Old Ben
Sabers ignited. Stances taken. Meagre words shared, then silence.
After all, this will be a physical conversation.

Then as Maul charges forward, bloodred saber raised, howling, "KENOBI!" at the top of his lungs, he drips on an old buried krayt dragon bone and plunges into Obi-Wan's fire, igniting his robes. Obi-Wan, for his part, is too busy having Mustafar flashbacks to help and wanders off in a daze mumbling, "Good friend," over and over again.

And this is precisely why old men should only battle over a chess board.

>>88902710
That's pretty much how most of us here feel. We liked him in TCW (even though some of us felt his comeback was cheap we at least appreciated the story they were able to tell with him), his return in Rebels is a bit more mixed.

Personally I felt he didn't need to be in Rebels but I'm glad they're at least finally giving his story a conclusion instead of dragging it on into another time period.

They better not fake us out

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>So anon, now that Rebels is over, what should the next animated Star Wars show be?

>>88902710
Here's one
The boys in Liverpool, when on the dock I landed.
Called myself a fool, I could no longer stand it;
My blood began to boil, my temper I was losing.
And poor old Erin's Isle, they all began abusing.
"Hurrah! my boys," says I, my shillelagh I let fly.
Some Galway boys were by, they saw I was a hobble in;
Then with a loud "hurrah !" they joined me in the fray.
Faugh-a-ballagh! clear the way for the rocky road to Dublin.

>>88902741
if he doesn't address maul with a "hello there" i'll be mildly irritated

>>88902760
>inb4 a dozen "K-KOTOR!" posts

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>>88902760
Wraith Squadron.

Yub Yub commander.

>>88902400
>Chopper is Snoke

>>88902760
Old Republic. Origins of the Jedi and Sith, the war between them, and how Valkorion/Vitiate became Snoke.

>>88902760
O L D R E P U B L I C

>>88902797
>Bioware shit
>Ever being relevant
lol

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>>88902760
No, there should be no next Star Wars show.

>>88902821
this

give it a rest

>>88902760
A show focusing on the forming of the New Republic and their interactions with the Imperial Remnants. Maybe show how the First Order started to form.

>>88902760
X-Wing vs TIE Fighter: the animated series

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>>88902760
Luke's Jedi Order Shenanigans. Story revolves around Luke's new generation of Jedi alongside Ben

>>88902760
A show about the New Republic's Senate set between Episodes 6 and 7, done in an Office/Parks & Rec style.

>>88902839
>Disney
>letting go of a cash cow franchise

>>88902760
Yeah, it really should take place after Episode VII. It could save the sequels.

>>88902760
STAR WARS: BABY SHIT FOR BABIES

A show where characters from across the canon and across timelines are reimagined as mischievous babies under the care of Nanny Sheev

>>88902760
No animated series, just finally give us that anthology serial format live action TV series thats an hour long with a decent budget

>>88902505
moar

Will Kyle Katarn ever get recanonised

>>88902904
I hope not.

Or they at least tone him down if they do.

>>88902890
This is so crazy it might actually happen.

>>88902898
They need something for the kids.

>>88902856
We already got that in books bro. Let me sum it up for you

>republic spends first few years cleaning up Imps
>sets up the new galactic senate
>senate spends the next 20 years doing fuckall but builds tons of statues and stupid shit around their offices
>people start to get nostalgic for the Empire when shit would actually get done
>First Order forms
>half the senate backs First Order secretly, other half doesn't think any threats exist even though someone blew up a building and nearly killed Leia
>First Order supports kick Leia out of the Senate and frame the only other competent senator so he's out of the way

That's all it is. Pure incompetence on the part of the New Republic's non-existent government leads to First Order sympathizers.

>>88902925
He'd definitely be toned down, most of his exploits don't fit into new canon.

I imagine it'd be like Thrawn. The Thrawn trilogy obviously isn't canon but they can keep the core of the character to appease fans.

>>88902935
Jesus.

>>88902904
Probably in Episode 8 or 9. Luke will start telling Rey about what happened with his new Jedi Order and it'll trigger a flashback sequence. There'll be some montage of Luke recruiting and training new Jedi. The last one he recruits is Michael Cera's character, when Luke asks him his name he turns to the camera with his biggest shit-eating grin and says "Oh me? I'm Kyle Katarn". Next bit of the flashback shows Luke trying to train everyone and Kyle trying desperately to be friends with Ben. Ben finally snaps and kills everyone starting with Kyle.

>>88902960
Bloodline made me realize that the FO did the Galaxy a favor by destroying the senate.

>>88902935
The Republic sure is bad at war and conquest compared to historical republics in real life.

>>88902304
Can please have people who post this forced meme banned?

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>>88902999
That's what happens when you let non-humans have any say in government.

>>88903026
What video game is this from?

>>88903043
like humans are any better

>>88903026
I've heard a lot of people saying they couldn't tell this was CGI

How in the fuck? Like, it was technically impressive, but it was glaringly uncanny valley.

>>88902904
>>88902925
>>88902949
They can certainly keep at least the Dark Forces part of it.

>>88902935
Next nearly THIRTY years, not twenty. They basically (Moronically) compressed the entire old New Republic Remnant-Warlords era into a single year after Endor.

All that fucking story potential just flushed down the shitter.

>>88903063
I said twenty because I was pretty sure Bloodline takes place around then, could be wrong.

Either way I'm looking forward to the inevitable New Republic series of books that goes into excruciating detail about the kinds of statues and public speaking venues the Republic build in those 30 years.

>>88902760
BOUNTY HUNTERS

Basicly the american equivlent of cowboy bebop

>>88903055
on second watch, it's obvious, but I didn't even realize it was CGI. Thought they found a really good look-alike

>Implying Rebels won't continue on as a show set between ANH and Empire

>>88903055
Honestly, I think it's because of Imax. When I saw Rogue One in Imax it looked pretty amazing every time he was on screen, and I knew it was coming. Seeing it again in webms it looks really obviously CGI'd. I'm probably going to go see it again sometime just in regular 2D and am curious how it'll look.

Someone mentioned awhile back it probably looks far better and less obvious in Imax because of better resolution or something.

>>88903055
The only people I've heard saying that, are people who didn't know who he was in the first place

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>>88903095
>>88903095
4-LOM and Zuckuss episode

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>>88903109
And up through the battle of Endor.

>>88903139
See but I don't even understand that. He just looked fake, it wasn't a matter of a bad resemblance or anything. Like, if his shots were isolated it might be fine, but every scene he was in kept flicking back and forth between his CGI face and Krennic's normal human face, which made it so obvious.

>>88903055
By being honest, only tryhards say it was obvious and terrible CGI.

>>88902760
>Star Wars: Guardians of the Whills
>Give it the budget of TCW and allow it to show graphic violence on a channel like Adult Swim.
>Set thousands of years before any of the movies.
>At this point in history there is no centralized government in the galaxy and because the core has been barely explored Jedha is the center of all intergalactic travel. It is also an important planet to many different force religions because it's high density of kyber crystals has attracted many philosophers and messiahs from many different force religions.
>Vong (but minus weird force negativity shit) or some shit invade from the Unknown Regions and eventually take Jedha.
>These different force religions meet up at Ahch-To and call for a crusade to take back Jedha. They call themselves the Jedha Order.
>An aspect of the show can be all these different force religions trying to find commonality in their different beliefs and trying to come up with a system that works.
>The Jedha Order is based more of Western religions like Christianity compared to the later Jedi Order which is based off Eastern religions.
>The Jedha believe the force is a manifestation of some god-like creatures called the Whills and they pray to the Whills.
>Arcs are basically Jedha crusaders saving planets of innocent people from Vong and then going around to lay hands on children and pray for them.
>The many alliances and whatnot formed in the show create the Old Republic.
>Around Season 4 have the main character receive a vision from the Brother of Order 66/Darth Vader/the Death Star.
>He tells the Council of Jedha of some Chosen One who will someday save the galaxy from some horrible force user.
(cont)

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>>88903206
>>88902760
>Some Jedha believe him. Some think he's bullshitting them. Others believe that he himself is the Chosen One. The ones that believe he's the Chosen One form the Revanchist (Revelation in the Old Tongue, the revelation being the visions of the Chosen One) movement.
>He eventually starts losing it from all the pressure and accepts his title of Chosen One but deep down he knows he's only doing it because he wants power for himself.
>The Revanchists tactics slowly get more and more horrible as they're trying to prevent what they believe will be the end of the world.
>Eventually they come to believe that since the Empire is formed from the Republic that the Old Republic is inherently evil and needs to be destroyed, along with the Jedha Order who will birth this Vader character who subjugates the galaxy in his Death Star.
>The Revanchists go to war with the Old Republic and Jedha. By now the Vong have been completely stopped.
>In this civil war the Revanchists begin using the dark side since they believe that Vader is only so evil because he wasn't able to properly comprehend the dark side and went too deep into it at the first taste he got.
>The Jedha begin calling the Revanchists the Antisith'ai (antithesis in the Old Tongue) as a way to disavow them. This is eventually shortened to Sith.
>The Revanchists proudly accept this name and the main character is renamed Darth (Dark Lord in the Old Tongue) Revan.
>Series ends with the Sith going way too far into the dark side and infighting beginning.
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>>88903171
He did, especially in 3D, but I guess nobody expected such a complex piece of VFX in something as mundane as a single character shot.

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>>88903206
>>88903227

Pretty stupid but the idea of a show focusing on the very early era is nice.

>>88903251
What's stupid about it?

>>88903227
>that pic
Dude looks like he just stabbed his own knee and is seriously regretting it.

>>88902760
There have been rumors about a new animated series in the works. Are those still just rumors?

>>88903178
It was great CGI. But we're obviously not at the point where we can perform cyber-necromancy without it being noticeable.

>>88902760
A Luke, Leia, and Han animated show set after RotJ. Why have they never had their own cartoon?

>>88903206
>Give it the budget of TCW and allow it to show graphic violence on a channel like Adult Swim.
Never gonna happen.

>>88903206
The OT would have scraped by on Disney XD fine, why the hell does Star Wars need mature ratings?

>>88903269
I dislike the attempts at tying the show to later installments and lore. Create something new instead of stupid names such as Revanchists, Antisith'ai and Jedha order.

>>88903276
>Are those still just rumors?
Yes. We know Filoni got a promotion to oversee the entire animation department, which implies more projects besides Rebels but we don't know what that may entail- shows, standalone (possibly straight to blu-ray) movies, etc.

>>88903055
It is obvious, but I find only if you focus on the details. If you're just watching the scene and aren't focused on the minutia it's harder to tell?

I honestly cannot answer that because knowing it is CGI I find I cannot help but notice what is off about it. It's like when someone tells you not to think about an elephant, you literally cannot because in order to deliberately not think about it you have to think about what it is you aren't supposed to think about.

>>88903298
>>88903315
I mostly wanted it to show that the ancient era of Star Wars is very similar to irl where it was absolutely horrible at times. Like Jedi going to save a planet only to have hand their fleet destroyed and to find out that all inhabitants of the village were rounded up and burned to death. Things like this would push Jedi to the dark side as they try and find absolutely any way possible to stop the invading army.
>>88903327
Well Jedha has to be involved somehow since it has been called one of the planets where the Jedi Order was likely formed, the Sith need an explanation for their name and the Old Tongue already exists so it would make sense that Sith was some word in that language, and Revan is going to be in any Old Republic era thing no matter what because $$$ so they might as well make him well written instead of a gary stu who becomes a master in the light and dark side.

>>88903334
An animated Ahsoka Holiday Special for next year!

>>88903144
>4-LOM and Zuckuss episode

I actually hope they make 4-LOM and Zuckuss hate eachother as opposed to their being partners in the EU. If they keep Zuckuss as a Findsman, then I hope it'll serve as a contrast to 4-LOM. One finds their quarry through machine precision, the other through spirituality. And thus hate eachother.

>2017
>people still defend helicopter lightsabers

so I watched the Clone Wars Series and enjoyed it

Watched Season 1 of Rebles and thought it was alright
I had a bit spoiled for me in that Ashoka "dies"
is she really dead?
if so that is unfortunate I actually enjoyed the character and wished they had done more with her

>>88903379
Or make them partners that hate each other

>>88903387
It's under debate, but the prevailing side seems to be that she's alive.

>>88903155
>And up through the battle of Endor.

Only if they skip a few years. If every season is going to be a year's time, they'll end the show just before, or during, the battle of Hoth.

>>88903377
I get what you're going for but you can show horrible shit without going into M rated edgy shit. It doesn't fit the tone.

>>88903378
Didn't Filoni say he's done with her?

>>88903387
She may or may not be dead.
It hasn't actually been conclusively answered. Dave Filoni is coy about it anytime he's asked and won't give a straight answer.

>>88903412
>Didn't Filoni say he's done with her?
No, he actually said we'll be seeing her again, but maybe not on Rebels.

>>88903382
>not hype for Battlefront's Rise of the Inquisitors DLC with new aerial blade transportation around the map dropping on Rebel scum from the skiiiiies

>>88903387
Her fate is left ambiguous but they've said they're leaving it that way and letting fans decide.

>>88903412
>Didn't Filoni say he's done with her?
He said she was probably done in Rebels, meaning he could have her in a different project, and also leaves himself an out in case he wants to have her on Rebels again.

>>88903395

Considering what we've seen of Bounty Hunters so far, I doubt that'd happen. Getting on eachothers nerves that much, there's no way they would stand being partners. They'd kill one another unless you have one of the three best in the business to cool them down.

>>88903407
I wonder how creative they'll get in not having the Ghost crew meet up with Luke.

>>88903425
Ah I know it's a pipe dream but I really want her and Barriss to meet a final time. I never felt they they've gotten an actual resolution in The Clone Wars and Filoni kept Barriss alive because he still had plans with her at the time.

>>88903427
>Nu-Battlefront
no thanks

any place to read Voice of the Empire?

>>88903460
>I wonder how creative they'll get in not having the Ghost crew meet up with Luke.

Oh, they'll probably just have everyone BUT Kanan and Ezra meet him.

>>88903494
I don't think anyone's scanned the newest Insider yet

>>88903506
Yeah I suspect that one as well. Though they still would need to be pretty far away or they could feel each other's presence in the Force.

>>88903490
Everything is better with helicopter blades, even Battlefront. Besides, you don't want to enjoy their new version of Fortunate Son in Huttese?

>>88903556
And isn't it common knowledge in the Rebellion that Luke is a Jedi? Why the fuck would Ezra and Kanan not try to meet him ASAP

>>88903577
>Why the fuck would Ezra and Kanan not try to meet him ASAP

Because they'll be long dead by that point.

>>88903577
>And isn't it common knowledge in the Rebellion that Luke is a Jedi?
I don't think it is.

>>88903577
Well it's probably common knowledge by the time of Return but before that they probably think he has a Lightsaber just for the heck of it.
I think it's only during/after Return that he pulls off Force stuff in the vicinity of other rebels.

>>88903577
luke didnt try to be a jedi until ESB

>>88902760
>>88902858
AT ST
AT-ST
ATST

>>88903615
im not sure if he even took part in the rebellion between ESB and RotJ

>>88903616
He still has a lightsaber and is force sensitive. If word gets around about that it would make sense for Kanan and Ezra to want to meet him. And if anyone is the hot topic of the rebellion it's probably the dude that took down the Death Star.

>>88903616
No he was just actively tracking down Jedi temples, nothing Jedi about that.

>>88903577
Because the war is more important at the moment.
>>88903594
No they won't. They've said that they'll either be a new force religion or they'll simply be dicking around while Luke is also dicking around and Yoda's 'last of the Jedi' comment was another 'from a certain perspective' comment meant to inspire Luke.

>>88903634
That's just 6 months.
I'm just mentioning what I've seen of Shattered Empire.

>>88903634
He did. In the book Moving Target he goes to receive a mission from Mon Mothma at some point. We don't know what he was doing specifically but we know he was fighting in the war.

>>88903653
didnt they say "last of the jedi" meant last to be trained by the old ways

kanan left as a padawan and is mostly self taught

>>88903653
>They've said that they'll either be a new force religion
That pretty much acts like Jedi?
Nah man, they are gonna be dead, better face it. Filoni will kill your husbandos. The best you can hope for is only one of the dying and the other pulling a Kyle Katarn "I don't wanna have anything to do with that shit anymore"

>>88903653
>They've said that they'll either be a new force religion
Source?

>>88903653
>Because the war is more important at the moment.
Go to bed, Hera.

http://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-rebels-part-2

>StarWars.com: I have a bit of a continuity challenge for you. In Return of the Jedi, Yoda tells Luke, “When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be.” But now he knows that Kanan and Ezra are out there. We obviously don’t know at this point what will happen to them, but is that something you’re aware of?

>Dave Filoni: I don’t see it as a challenge at all. It’s what the Sith call an absolute. When Obi-Wan says to Luke, “Your father was the greatest starfighter pilot in the galaxy,” is that true? Or is that something you tell a kid because you want him to believe his father was great? It doesn’t have to be empirical or absolutely true. Saying Luke is “the last,” is that a singular thing, or is he the last of a group? I don’t know.

>It definitely is something that comes up, and we discuss that moment all the time for what it could mean. It is possible to interpret it as, Luke is the last person that’s following the path as laid out by the Jedi Order, which we knew. The way of the Jedi is not the only way to use the light side of the Force. Luke is taught by Obi-Wan and Yoda, who very much followed the dogma of the day. So, he is the last of that line for sure. That’s absolutely true. But you don’t have to be a Jedi to use the Force. You don’t have to be a Sith to use the dark side.

>>88903692
dont you think they have killed enough jedi?

>>88903684
>didnt they say "last of the jedi" meant last to be trained by the old ways

No.


>kanan left as a padawan and is mostly self taught
He received FAR more training from the Jedi than Luke ever did. Luke barely had a day's worth from Obi-wan and maybe a couple weeks from Yoda. Kanan had 14 years of it.

Fuck. Even Ezra got more comprehensive guidance than Luke did.

>>88903692
>That pretty much acts like Jedi?
Excluding the part where one of them trained under a Dathomirian who used to be a Sith and the other is training under Bendu? Filoni literally said he wasn't going to kill them before ANH and even if he lied he has 1 Season to do it (and I doubt they'll be dead by next year). They've said constantly that they're trying to figure out exactly how to explain them being alive during the war and it makes 0 narrative (or profitable) sense to kill 2 main characters because of a line from 'from a certain perspective' Dee and Dum.

>>88903750
well, the new jedi temple could use some teachers, preferably ones who were actually raised as jedi

>>88903705
That's legitimately the explanation they've given.

>>88903726
They aren't Jedi. Also, no.

>>88903774
how many characters could they possibly introduce where just end up killing them?

>>88903750
Kanan was knighted by the Force itself, so take that however you want.

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Is wookieepedia for fags? Or is it legit?

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>>88903802
It's both

>>88903719
basically: fuck you and fuck the point of luke's existence, if we want ezra and kanan around for moneybux, we'll have them around

>>88903764
This.
And even if they aren't part of the new Jedi Order you can bet your ass that whatever they did on their own also collapsed because Episode VII so desperately wanted to be A New Hope that apparently the concept of the Force is once again a myth all of a sudden.

>>88903616
Well, he was but apparently is mostly keeping this to himself. After ANH he was riding high on destroying the Death Star, using the Force as his ally, had a super cool ghost mentor to give him advice when he needed it most, and thought he could just BE this awesome Jedi hero like his dad.

Then without either of them knowing it father and son met in the comics. His own dad that he's idolized so much taught him that he knew absolutely dick about the Force, even using Luke's own sword to murder people Luke had just saved while the kid was basically screaming, "I fucked uuuuup!"

The impression I have is that Luke is too worried/embarrassed to confide in his friends when he isn't sure they can even help him. So he ran off on his own to look for clues in Luke's hut (nearly got Boba'ed for his trouble but found a journal), got humiliated again by a Hutt who really loves to work out, and finally found an old Jedi Temple ... but then the Empire showed up and Obi-Wan finally talks to him again just long enough to tell him that he shouldn't be fucking around in Jedi Temples because it is too early.

At this point I don't know how close they are to ESB.

>>88903827
i doubt kanan or ezra could bring balance to the galaxy or redeem darth vader

>>88903817
Thrawn pls explain

>>88903794
That was Yoda controlling a Force Vision, but part of the ceremony does include saying it is the will of the Force itself. So he was knighted by Inky but really Yoda who as Grand Master of the Jedi Order (defunct) that's as official as you can get...with the entire Order destroyed and its survivors fleeing.

>>88903653
>new force religion
Oh great, because that worked out so well in the EU!

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>>88903860
Wookieepedia is a legit source of information, albeit run by fags.

>>88903872
So that makes Kanan for all intents and purposes a Jedi.

>>88903855
Sure, but I'm sick of this "from a certain point of view" bullshit. It worked well for the Vader twist, but Yoda on his deathbed would tell Luke honestly he's the last Jedi, the last possible chance. But then NOPE, Ezra and Kanan aren't """really""" Jedi so it makes perfect sense why they're alive, right!

>>88903872
>with the entire Order destroyed and its survivors fleeing
So how long until they can't resist and have more surviving Jedi show up?

>>88903895
why is it so important that kanan and ezra be dead?
its not like they are skywalkers

>>88903890
>So that makes Kanan for all intents and purposes a Jedi.

Well yeah. How can anyone actually argue that?

>>88903914
Because that's the point: the Jedi are dead. Vader and Sheev were absolutely thorough about that until Luke. Luke is the last Jedi. But nucanon is once again falling prey to lmao jedi are everywhere actually.

>>88903916
Then Luke can't be the last of the Jedi if Kanan's alive, can he?

>>88903890
Sure, though by a Yoda who keeps trying to tell at least Ezra that how Jedi choose to fight is more important and even tried to keep them out of events on Malachor. In that respect it is hard to imagine Yoda would want them to charge after the Emperor alongside Luke, especially when it is Luke's destiny to fight alone and not even Yoda or Obi-Wan can interfere.

>>88903063
The length of the war between the Empire and the New Republic post-Endor really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Beyond robbing us of a lot of interesting storytelling opportunities, the speed and timeline of the Empire's collapse at the hands of the Rebellion feels completely disjointed from the way both groups are depicted in chronologically earlier works.

The decision to have the New Republic disarm also feels really dumb in light of the events of the clone wars. I might be reading into things incorrectly, but wasn't one element of Palpatine's rise to power and the formation of the Empire the fact that the sudden necessity of addressing the Separatist threat meant abandoning principles that kept the authority of the galactic government in check?

>>88903933
even as a kid i always thought "jedi are dead" meant the order as a whole, not every single member, since it boggles the mind how you could comb a single planet, let alone the galaxy

and yoda was not being completely absolute in RotJ, since when i watched it back then, there was no way yoda could contact anyone, not even obi wan

>>88903933
>But nucanon is once again falling prey to lmao jedi are everywhere actually.
That was to be expected. The Jedi stuff is what most Star Wars fans care about.

>>88903946
when was Luke the last of the Jedi?

>>88903577
>Leia personally knows Kanan and Ezra.
>She knows they are jedi.
>She knows Luke trained with Obi-wan and wants to be a jedi.

They're part of the rebel alliance and if they are still part of it after the battle of yavin, it's crazy that Leia didn't put them in contact with each other.

>>88903970
They turned Mon Mothma into Space Merkel.

>>88903974
Fwiw, he certainly is in TFA, the op scroll flat out says so.

>>88903971
>>88903974
When Yoda said "when gone am I, the last of the Jedi, will you be." He literally says Luke is the last of the Jedi, not the Jedi are dead. There is no hurr durr Jedi as a concept here, he says Luke is the last Jedi.

>>88903974
Return of the Jedi.
>When gone I am, the last of the Jedi you will be

>>88903978
Has Luke EVER confided in his friends about his Jedi stuff or kept it to himself? Because even in ESB he basically goes awol from the Rebellion to follow up Ghost Obi-Wan's cryptic message and seek training on swamp world.

Then in ROTJ when he's returning to Yoda he just tells them he has to do stuff and he'll meet them back at the fleet.

>>88904011
>>88904017
he was old and senile, maybe he was wrong again

>>88902659
Didn't one anon write a fapfic where he survives and is used as a sex slave by some Zygerrian slaverfu?

>>88904011

There's also the fact that the title of the film is called Return of The Jedi to consider as well. If there were still active Jedi then they really haven't returned because they didn't go anywhere now did they?

>>88904005
God, I hope they retcon it and have part of his order still be alive but in hiding. They pretty much robbed themselves of interesting stories with that one too otherwise. Especially considering that his Order has been dead for about 6 years in the timeline, so that is still 20 odd years he could have trained people to be Jedi Knight-tier that could put up a decent fight against an not completely trained Kylo and his fanboys.

>>88904005
the empire, with clonetroopers literally next to many jedi, still missed out on obi-wan and yoda, with only the outer rim being semi-safe for survivors

the new jedi would have had the comfort of not having a million clonetroopers waiting to zap of all them, and having at least nominal support from the NT, and have the entirety of NR space and all its personnel to hide in, you would expect higher survival rates there

>>88904018
Han literally watched Luke training in ANH.

>>88902760
Series detailing the great Jedi Purge. From the perspective of the empire, mainly Vader, Sheev and the Inquisitors.

>>88904011
Which is weird because in the legends canon more Jedi survived the purge than there were in KOTOR 2.

>>88904011
>>88904017
There's some obvious, and well-trodden points on this topic. Two very big issues is that Luke will never be the last of the Jedi, no one will be, because now we have Ghost Jedi. In fact the Priestesses tell Yoda flat out that the reason he's being considered for the Great Gift is because they need to ensure there is a Jedi around to train whomever will finally bring balance to the Force. Could be Luke, could be Leia. There IS another, after all.

Then there is the fact that when Yoda tells Luke he requires no more training Luke says he is a Jedi now, causing Yoda to laugh. Luke won't be a Jedi conditional on Yoda's death but on fulfilling his destiny in meeting Vader. So when Yoda is dead Luke WON'T be the last of the Jedi, which he isn't yet, and he could fail or fall when meeting Vader and the Emperor so he may NEVER be a Jedi.

This is before we get into Filoni smirking and pointing out that Jedi is plural so multiple people can be the last of the Jedi.

>>88904047
They might as well name the movie "Returns of the Jedi until they are gone again in 30 years" now.

>>88904047
i just assumed that "Return of the jedi" meant that the jedi order would literally return from whatever hidey hole they were staying in

>>88904061
They were all at the temple it seems and Kylo and his buds massacred them all.

Regardless of how it happened in TFA, Luke is the only Jedi in the galaxy.

>>88904084
>kylo and seven samurai are more effective at killing jedi than sheev
that bugs me

>>88904065
So then you are aware Han didn't take that training seriously because he's never been comfortable with the idea of the Force?

In the comics Han is still saying the Force isn't real even as Vader is crushing their AT-AT with his mind. Not to mention Han would probably think Luke is better off with a good blaster at his side than any hokey religion shit. He didn't even believe Luke could sense Vader in ROTJ.

>>88904081
Well that was the case in the EU, so I don't see how it couldn't be the case now.

>>88904075
No, in this case nothing about it is plural. Jedi can be plural, yes, but he says YOU will be the last of the Jedi.

Whether the phrase Jedi is plural or not has no bearing on it.

It's a bunch of contrivances to keep made up OC Jedi around when they should be dead.

>>88904095
To be fair, there probably weren't that many Jedi

>>88904099
Sure, but the question was if Han knew that Luke wanted to be a jedi, and if Luke had ever told any of his friends.

So the answer is kind of obviously yes, regardless of Han's skepticism.

Also, I'd have to check, but since you bring up the comics, I'm quite sure that Leia knows about Luke's aspirations in them.

>>88904095
Be ready for the retcon to save them from that blunder. I mean wasn't that the main complaint about TFA?

>>88904101
your sad devotion to that ancient canon, has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes

>>88904095
We don't know how Luke's order was destroyed. We also don't know how Luke was training his new order. He may not have been training them in literal and mental kung fu at all, but focusing on spiritual training hoping they could live in peace after the war.

Still means none of them, even Luke, managed to sense the attack. Sidous had to cloud the senses of the Jedi with the Dark Side to blind them before he could pull off his endgame, and even that wasn't 100%.

>>88904132
My "sad devotion" so far hasn't made me sad at all, because a lot of things that I cared about in that are actually canon again.

>>88904047
Return of the Jedi was about Anakin coming back to the light side and save the day, he is the one that returns.

>>88904084
wanst he supposed to have 2 students with him in an early draft?

they were removed since finn and rey could fill the same purpose

>>88904123
>but the question was if Han knew that Luke wanted to be a jedi,
You're overlooking the deeper issue which is what this would mean to Han. You can't just dismiss Han's skepticism or discomfort about the Force given it WILL play into any decisions he makes on what he knows. Assuming he doesn't just blow it off because it isn't like Han often gets involved in other people's shit if he can avoid it.

>>88904154
It means both things, bud.

>>88904154
what if the jedi was inside you all along?

>>88904118
And Kylo is still not fully trained by Snoke so I'm supposed to believe he could pull that off against people that might have already more training than him at the time?
Guess J.J. really wanted to leave his own mark on Star Wars with Kylo and Rey.

>>88904170
the novelization says that "complete training" means killing rey, since snoke senses that kylo harbors compassion for her

the novelization isnt canon, so take it with a grain of salt

>>88904170
JJ is such shit all around, he's a totally inept storyteller who doesn't know how to organically build emotional hooks into his plots, so he monkey-wrenches them in ways that blast massive holes in the logic of his stories.

I'm a writer myself and I can't fucking stand him. He's a bad storyteller who dazzles people with his lens flares and nostalgia bait.

We don't know jack shit about what Luke's order looked like. Might have just been about ten kids who he was training as some kinda monastic order focusing on spiritualism and oneness, with no lightsaber fuckery involved.

>>88904155
So Rey and Finn are gonna found the for real New Jedi Order at the end of the ST and we're gonna get books and games about that stuff?

>>88904162
What's your point anon? No one said Han will introduce Luke to Kanan and Ezra. He probably doesn't even know them.

It's Leia that's the issue there. Han was only brought up because someone asked if any of Luke's friends knew he was training to be a jedi, and the answer given was the most obvious one of all, the guy who saw him training.

So, returning to the pertinent issue, does Leia know? Because, I think the answer is yes.

>>88904198
Why Finn?

>>88904196
Then they shouldn't call themselves Jedi, who are the GUARDIANS of peace.

>>88904214

People still insist he's Force Sensitive.

>>88904164
no it doesn't since there was a jedi in every movie already so they didn't have to return
and there was no implication in the movies of Luke starting a new school or order after the war

>>88904214
Minority brownie points. Same reason he was cast in the first place, even if it turned out that Boyega was one of the better parts of TFA.

>>88904233
He's not force sensitive though.

>>88904195
It's funny, I remember people being nervous about Abrams handling Star Wars after how Into Darkness turned out, but the common defense for that was that he didn't write it and apparently Lindelof was the one to blame for a lot of the movie's story problems.

Yet here we have an Abrams Star Wars movie that makes a lot of the same big mistakes that Into Darkness did, including trying too hard to be an homage to a better movie and trying to mimic emotional moments from said movie (or in this case from the franchise in general) without earning them or even understanding why they worked in the original.

>>88904217
Luke has no fucking clue what real Jedi are.

>>88904228
he seems to experience a psychic shockwave when hosnia is blown, but in typical JJ fashion its unclear whether its that or screaming from people outside

>>88904230
>Luke...the Force runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned.

I hate faggots that don't pay attention to the most important scenes of the movie. ROTJ also means the Jedi Order is being returned to the galactic stage.

>>88904240
I'm not holding my breath on them keeping it that way.
Hell as far as I'm concerned I could see them retconning Poe into a force sensitive and make him into the new version of Corran Horn that way.

>>88904248
Good thing he has three of them he can consult

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>>88904128
And we won't be getting anything about Luke's New Order because why would anyone want to invest himself into a story where you know everybody will be killed at some point

>>88904260
well, most casuals seem to believe that finn is force sensitive, and it would be pretentious to discount their opinion, since conveying the feeling that someone has the force to the audience matters a lot more than trying to go frame-by-frame over the movies

>>88904248
Oh he probably has some ideas considering he saw a holocron of Shaak Ti and was looking around old Jedi temples

>>88904256
but did Luke say "I will"? or something like that?

>>88904272
Wasn't that what The Clone Wars was?

>>88904283
Why the hell wouldn't he?
It's his damn family legacy.

>>88904208
If Leia was truly the issue why are you talking about Han?

I think you're either missing your own point or just kicking it back and forth in an effort to prove...what exactly?

Just saw Rogue One (I know I'm late, I was traveling) and had a few questions:

>Why could they take down the AT-ATs so easily here but not on Hoth?
>Why do Imperials keep letting people steal there shit, put on disguises and walk around there bases?
>Seriously, why the fuck was Leia and the Tantive at Scarrif?

>>88904283
No, he doesn't outright say "Yeah, man, I'll train the next Jedi Order" but the implication was there. You said it wasn't mentioned in the film, I pointed out it was. Considering ALL material, canon and EU, has him training new Jedi, I'd say it was always there in the film that he was going to train new Jedi.

>>88904309
AT-ATs might be older models that got upgraded by the time of Hoth.

No idea how they could buy Cassians disguise though. The guy was unshaven as fuck while every other Imperial officer was either clean shaven or had a neatly trimmed beard.

>>88904318
well, I never actually watched the movie give me some slack

>>88904318
Lucas talked to Hamill in the 80s if he would be okay with doing a role in 30 years where he played 'the Obi-Wain.'

>>88904309
>Why could they take down the AT-ATs so easily here but not on Hoth?
the X-wings and U-wings have way more punch than snowspeeders
>Why do Imperials keep letting people steal there shit, put on disguises and walk around there bases?
despite their disguise, K2 notes that they wont be able to make it all the way to the archive, so the exterior security must have been pretty light. this makes sense considering that its not worth protecting a landing pad so heavily
>Seriously, why the fuck was Leia and the Tantive at Scarrif?
maybe she was dragged along, or maybe she chose to go, leia is a bit of a hot head in ANH

>>88904339
...You haven't actually watched Return of the Jedi?

>>88904353
dude it's like 3 hours with only some good scenes, I just watched some highlights on youtube

>>88904342
>the X-wings and U-wings have way more punch than snowspeeders
But they had X-wings on Hoth.
>maybe she was dragged along, or maybe she chose to go, leia is a bit of a hot head in ANH
Those are all true, except her exchange with Vader at the start of it all now makes very little sense.

>>88904353
It's bait, anon. Don't take it.

>>88904364
Are these the people infesting these threads who need to constantly be explained stuff?

>>88904339
fucking casuals

>>88904341
Yeah, the Obi-Wan in the mentor sense, not in "the last surviving Jedi" sense that J.J. seemed to think.
Hell even Mark didn't think it was cool that he just fucked off.

>>88904309
>AT-ATs

There wasn't a single AT-AT in the film, newfag.

>>88904370
the X-wings were busy protecting the transports

>>88904370
>But they had X-wings on Hoth.
Apparently they don't do too well in cold, hence why they were using snowspeeders

>>88904392
they didnt have many X-wings on hoth in any case
they could only spare 2 per transport

>>88904370
The X-Wings on Hoth hadn't been converted to deal with the cold, like the speeders, and kinda needed to escort the Transports.

Her excuse at the beginning was already super flimsy. If you were a diplomatic ship, why would you SHOOT BACK at the SD following you rather than pulling over and being like "We got nothing to hide."

>>88902231
Is Obi-wan a grumpy old man now?

>>88904370
>Those are all true, except her exchange with Vader at the start of it all now makes very little sense.
Vader saw through her bullshit anyway, so it's not like it really matters how accurate Leia's excuse is. Leia was lying then and she's lying now.

>>88904402
maybe it was refuge in audacity?

>>88902442
>yfw Ezra goes on cute shota adventures with Luke, where Ezra tries to hide his best that he is a Jedi and member of the Rebel Alliance
>yfw Luke's optimism saves Ezra from the Dark Side.

>>88904378
That and the destruction of the New Republic in 3 minutes (as compared to 3 movies EACH to topple the Republic and Empire) were TFA's biggest sins.

>>88904416
Why would he hide it

>>88904417
the new republic werent dumb enough to place every single one of their military forces on a single system were they?

>>88904404
Aren't we all by this point?

>>88904424
NR didn't even have a military

>>88904423
Because he is a good friend.

>>88904412
Maybe, fuck knows.

>>88904431
well, they needed some kind of defence force to keep out the FO

>>88904402
>>88904411
This. Leia being at Scarif doesn't change the context of ANH's first scene at all.
>This is a diplomatic ship! When I tell the senate-
>Man shut the fuck up and tell me where you hid the plans.

Of course that still leaves the question of why the Tantive IV was there, but it doesn't at all change the meaning of Leia and Vader's conversation.

>>88904424
The New Republic doesn't even have a respestive military. The various systems are back to have their own from what I gathered.

>>88902760
Make up stuff that happened in between Episode IV and V. You can cash in on nostalgia big time by using all the iconic characters .

>>88904424
>the new republic werent dumb enough to place every single one of their military forces on a single system were they?
According to JJ they are.

>>88904309
>>Why could they take down the AT-ATs so easily here but not on Hoth?
Because those aren't AT-ATs. AT-ATs are attack transports. AT-ACTs are cargo transports. Guess which ones have heavier armor.

>>88904440
Yeah, it's called "The Resistance"

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>>88904411

>>88904431
>>88904440
They do have a military, you see part of it in orbit over the capital before it blows up.

Poe also flew X-Wings in it. But the NR also had the Resistance, their Paramilitary group that no one took seriously.

>>88904444
quads are a good idea

SW:empire at war
the movie
an ongoing serial about the various battles between the alliance and empire

>>88904449
Commander told me it was the ACTs

>>88904449
doesnt ACT stand for Armored Cargo Transport?
its immune to normal missiles at least

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>entire live action movie from the perspective of an AT-ST crew

> general veers super AT-AT smashes the shit out of a city

>>88904478
Fury but with an AT-ST crew.

why does the empire need like 5 different versions of tank driver troopers

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I had a dream last night that me and Tarkin went to inspect the Kuat Drive Yards in preparation for the launch of the Executor.
He told me I was one of his most promising officers.

What does it mean.

>>88904449
>A larger version of the standard combat AT-AT
if any thing it looks sturdier... also imperials had air superiority at hoth

http://www.starwars.com/databank/at-act-walker

>>88904494
Wasteful spending, I blame that one dick-hat dignitary on the ruling council. He was probably in the pocket of Big Uniform.

>>88904511
You have Tarkin issues.

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Does /swco/ think this is on the taiga planet or could it be Sundari?

>>88904512
>imperials had air superiority at hoth
No they didn't. Rebel's had a shield up.

>>88904511
you want to be well known and respected by your superiors

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>>88904541
Wrong. The rebels have no shields to speak of and I think a surprise attack would be the best course of action.
Lieutenant Piett, bring Death Squadron out of lightspeed in close proximity to Hoth so we can launch our attack.

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>>88904588
>You fool, what are you saying?? Lord Vader likes a leisurely cruise into a system! You're going to get us choked out!

>>88904588
see this bothers me, he wasn't the reason the rebels were alerted to the empires presence, it was the probe droid

>>88904618
He was though. The Rebels knew the Empire was comming sooner or later but they only put their shield up when they detected the Star Destroyers.

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>>88902231

>go to see rogue one with my vietnam vet dad
>get to the battle of scarif with the rebel marines
>Dad chimes in with "They look like my buddies from my old platoon."
>IT AIN'T ME plays in the back of my mind during the whole battle

Was this aesthetic intentional?

>>88904618
The probe droid told them the Empire knew they were there. Ozzel's decision to bring the fleet out too close to the system let the rebels know they were there and raise the shield. Otherwise they could've struck from a distance.

>>88904639
>this pasta again

Fuck off

>>88904639
yes
also ANH was Lucas's Vietnam movie so both intentional

>>88904639
Yeah retard. The Vietnam parallels in RotJ were intentional too if you wanna ask that next.

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>>88904639
>"They look like my buddies from my old platoon."
Talk about not being an fortunate one.

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>>88904511

It means be prepared to be force choked.

>>88904672
I felt legitimately bad for that Imp officer. He seemed like he was a chill dude and he knew what was coming to him.

>>88904639
Yes. Also that U-Wing was essentially a Space Huey.

>>88904664

>literally a spruced up m60 for space

IF THEY MOVE THEY'RE IMPERIAL

IF THEY STAND STILL THEY'RE WELL DISCIPLINED IMPERIALS

>>88904682
He essentially fell on his sword to save his crew.

>>88904588
>fail once
>gets killed

>Darth Vader fails multiple times
>gets away with it

should have filed a complaint

>>88904694
Vader is head of HR

>>88904694
Sounds like you're starting to figure out why the Empire are the bad guys.

>>88904694
To whom, Palpatine?

>>88904694
>should have filed a complaint
To Vader? How would that work out for you?

>>88904694
It sounds like you believe you're being treated unfairly.

>>88904720
I'm sure Lord Vader will treat the complaint with utmost professionalism

>>88903055
I asked my friend what he thought about CGI Tarkin, and he was legit baffled.

After I explained how they did it, he said "they did their job then, because I had no clue"

>>88904720
How do you think Vader would react to that?
I mean in the second he reads that complaint, not in the obviously minutes afterwards where he kills the guy filing that complaint.

>>88904691
Why couldn't Vader give him a quick death with his lightsaber. He deserved better.

>>88904733
>because I had no clue
Cushing being dead wasn't a clue?

>>88904744
Maybe his friend is a normie who had no idea who that was

>>88904739
Vader's kind of a petty asshole like that.
Speaking of that I want some equality here, Vader needs to choke some female Imperials to death.

>>88904757
I want some female Imperials to choke me, can that be arranged?

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>>88904766
Motti get back to work

>>88904757
>I want some equality here
>Vader needs to choke some female Imperials to death.

Femenists won't take kindly to that.

>>88904744
I think he just assumed they recasted, or it never occurred to him to think about Cushing because he's pretty normie.

>>88904788
He already choked his wife

>>88904757
Not many female officers.
Not because the empire doesn't like women, but because they work less hours on average and as a result don't advance as far or quickly.

>>88904766
File a transfer to Admiral Sloane

>>88904795
To be fair, she choked his chicken first.

>>88904799
They are introducing quite a few these days.

Though if you ask me they should introduce some more alien officers. I mean isn't a lot of the military body of the Empire from the Clone Wars?

>>88904809
>masturbating in a room full of dead separatists

>>88904826
>Fuck, I had Gunray at my mercy! Why didn't I make him tell me where the stash is? How could I be so stupid?!

>>88904824
Well Sheev was a racist. I mean he got rid of his young atheleti ridonian whipping boy for a human that's old as tits. Sheev wants to make his Empire great by having humanity in charge.

>>88904850
The Chiss seem to be an exception.

>>88904850
Sheev isn't racist, he only was that in the EU. Now his fucking second hand in the political stage is Mas Amedda, the guy he told that he was a Sith way before Anakin ever knew.

So, what are your top five favorite Star Wars games?

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The stash must remain hidden. For the good of the galaxy.

>>88904873
Kotor 1+2
Republic Commando
Empire at War FoC (with mods)
Lego Star Wars

>>88904888
Dex's facial hair was the secret to his knowledge beyond the Jedi Council, their vaunted Archives, and even the records of the Republic.

>>88904861
The Chiss are near-human. Same with the Mirialan.
In fact there was a Mirialan scientist lady involved in the Death Star project, as mentioned in Catalyst.

I can tell you why there are mostly humans there though: it's simply cheaper when it comes to movies and in case of Rebels it's easier to just put in a bunch of faceless humans.

>>88903653
Yoda's comment has already been explained in the Luminara episode

>>88904309
>>88904342
Mostly this, or it would have been if not for the Ghost's abysmal performance against AT-ATs, then again the ghost can't even kill spiders slightly larger than a man.

>>88904449
The AT-ACT's legs are weaker (And reliant on Tensor fields, hence the Ion M-60 blowing out the knee joint) because they're longer so it can haul cargo faster, otherwise the head and torso armor's roughly the same
>>88904370
X-Wings were all sent up to guard the transports or kept hidden for the last wave out.

>>88904588
>>88904606
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>>88904649
Any rebel commander with half a lick of sense would have raised the shield the instant the droid was confirmed imperial.

However to go into more detail on why coming out too close was bad.

Generally when invading a system a fleet will drop out outside the edge of the system itself, beyond the range of sensors able to pick up the fleet to make sure all the planets are in the orbital position they expect and THEN make another jump directly to the targeted planet, space station whatever they plan to hit.

Ozzel tried to get directly into the thick of things and missed, meaning that the fleet was in sensor range of the planet but still had to make another jump to reach Hoth VI the actual planet Hoth. That gave the rebels time to raise the shields. (Though they should have had them up the moment the probe was detected.)

Vader was still pissed at Ozzel for nearly dismissing the probe signal from Hoth if he hadn't been on the bridge, and the film implied other failures had taken place in the past.

>Fucking Panaka became an Imperial Moff
Traitor

>>88904945
Not sure if that's still canon. The little note still appears in the new version of Complete Locations, but that also has stuff in it that's not valid anymore, so I don't think it joins Ultimate Star Wars and Absolutely Everything in the "not really reliable" pile.

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>>88904685
Search "Roba" on Wookieepedia and then look up nicknames for the M-60 in 'Nam.
Or just read the spoiler
They're both pigs, Robas are space Pigs and the M-60 was called "The Pig" in Vietnam,

>>88904866
The MILITARY is mildly space racist but mostly because of Uniform logistics. And even in Legends Palpatine was implied to just be Space-Racist to spread misery and hate for the sake of the Dark Side.

>>88904945
Legends actually had a little story about this. He basically spat on the limp-wristed pre-sheev republic and the pacifism that nearly ruined his planet.

>>88904960
>Not sure if that's still canon. The little note still appears in the new version of Complete Locations, but that also has stuff in it that's not valid anymore, so I don't think it joins Ultimate Star Wars and Absolutely Everything in the "not really reliable" pile.
What's not valid in the new Complete Locations and Ultimate Star Wars?

>>88904766
>>88904802

>She firmly commands you to "forget the old way" while pegging and choking you.
>Calls you Rax when she goes harder from time to time.

I thought I wanted a bit of SS, but o-okay.

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>>88904975
Not him, but I know Locations still has this cross-section in it, even though it's been invalid since AOTC

>>88904960
Ultimate Star Wars is still considered canon, albeit with the two or three slip ups. The vast majority of the info there only comes from Canon material.

Absolutely Everything You Need To Know is officially non-canon though.

>>88904757

Good point. I mean he kills female rebel scum in LotS, but it's just not the same. Choke-equality for all.

>>88905039
I there anywhere in AotC or TCW that actually properly confirmed the building is not like that? I don't remember.

>>88904975
>The MILITARY is mildly space racist but mostly because of Uniform logistics.
Yeah, but it doesn't mean you can't work your way up via merit or you weren't already part of the military during the Clone Wars and just kept your rank.
I think it's a waste that they don't include more pro-Imperial aliens to make everything more grey.

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>>88905062
Yes. We see people walk directly out of the senate chamber and into normal-looking hallways. In AOTC we even see that hall has windows (they're not in TCW oddly enough- though it's possible some levels have halls without windows).

>>88905083
It's entirely possible that some floors are different.

...Wait that's the Naboo platform isn't it.

>>88905083
>>88905101
Alright gotcha.

I was going to say maybe that's just for that higher platform, and not all of the building, but I remember TCW having similar shots of the Senate building interior actually, so it's probably like this for the entire building. Probably.

Neat concept though, wouldn't mind it explored and made canon where applicable.

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>>88904766

>people claim the jedi robes weren't jedi robes until the prequels
>original anakin in ROTJ appears as a ghost force wearing one

>>88905110
>It's entirely possible that some floors are different.
Even if this is the case, there's not enough room for any of the floors to have those huge offices. I think the illustrators assumed the senate chamber was in the big dome at the top rather than the "stem" of the building where you can see all the windows.

>>88904795

That was before this whole new feminism/SJW shit emerged.

>>88905101
>Yes. We see people walk directly out of the senate chamber and into normal-looking hallways. In AOTC we even see that hall has windows (they're not in TCW oddly enough- though it's possible some levels have halls without windows).
Could be holoportraits.

>>88905120
I mean they DO focus on the Naboo floor mostly in TCW

Actually wait I opened that page, does the updated complete locations have the illustration of just the Naboo platform dock that makes it a fork-and-rejoin cooridor instead of a straightaway?

Also it's possible there was remoddeling done between films, that pushed the offices further back (Can't imagine how that would pass the senate since it ruins their privacy)

>>88905171
>Actually wait I opened that page, does the updated complete locations have the illustration of just the Naboo platform dock that makes it a fork-and-rejoin cooridor instead of a straightaway?
The updated one has no changes to the entry, so everything in the spread is exactly the same

>>88905142
Not to mention that Luke's RotJ outfit was clearly trying to evoke the Jedi look

And Yoda also wore robes.

>>88905145
Breaking news : he's the bad guy

>>88905191
What has the Pabs said about it?

>>88904826
I still love the Novelization version of the killing scene.

Gunray: "We were promised a handsome reward
Ani-Vader: "I'm your reward, don't you find me handsome?"

>>88905200
>And Yoda also wore robes.
Yeah, a lot of people seem to miss that Yoda is dressed just like Obi-Wan. The only major difference is Obi-Wan has the brown outer cloak most of the time.

>>88905211
You do realize we're talking about the same group /movement that were pissed because there was a X-Men billboard that had Apocalypse choking out Mystique

>>88905072
>more grey
that would make it way less popular though, since the strong themes of good vs evil are what make it timeless

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>>88905232
Normies who didn't realize Apocalypse was a baddie.

They probably thought he was supposed to be an X-Man.

>>88905226
>What has the Pabs said about it?
I don't know if anyone's asked him yet.

>>88905142
>>88905200
It's more funny how some Jedi in TCW actually didn't wear the standard robes.

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>>88905145
Maul choked Bo-Katan, Seventh Sister, and various other characters

I will admit that female characters will tend to be spared from violence a lot of the time in "politically correct" media, but Filoni at least hasn't shy'd away from it when it's necessary for a good scene.

>>88905244
Okay whups I forgot to attach the text relevant to that image.

That piece in the corner there is the only one that's 100% absolutley not consistent with how the rooms looked during AotC, there's a possibility that they chanced since I do seem to remember there being a middle block in Phantom Menace.

>>88905260
obi-wan preffered armored robes, that protect against shrapnel and light blaster fire, and was conveniently easier to animate

>>88905239
Rogue One seems to push they grey a bit for the Rebellion.
And the comics did the same with the Empire

>>88905276
a bit, enough to seem more realistic, but not enough that they lose sympathy from the audience, or make them bad guys

>ben and maul poke at each other with their sabers
>then they both start to complain about arthritis
>maul breaks down in tears and sobs
>"I miss my penis!"
>Ben nods solemnly. "Me too, he was a good friend."