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Order! ORDER! Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Rebels 3.11: "Ghosts of Geonosis" (January 7)

>The Original Rebel: Saw Gerrera Returns | Star Wars Rebels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLN_y-uWAVA

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars2016.htm

>Worldwide: $789,714,705

Remember when people were saying this film wasn't going to do very good?
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Lyra a cute
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>>88848469
Lyra a shit
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>>88846253
It is canon even in Legends that Korriban was the old name of Moraband. Like Iran was once known as Persia
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Yub Nub or Victory Celebration?
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What were they shooting at?
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>>88848538
Neither

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9WVDvVd0E
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Are movie novelizations more comprehensive than the movie's themselves?
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>>88848566
At the start? Vader, next to no shots actually missed.

At that point? Nothing, they couldn't see shit with their eyes shut and full of tears.
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Reminder that Rogue One was a bad movie and killed Star Wars harder than The Force Awakens did
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>>88848566
Vader
They suffered from Stormtrooper aim
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>>88848606
Yes. The format gives them more room to provide detail than the two-hour timeframe of a movie.
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>>88848469
I actually kind of crushed on her as I was reading Catalyst. Her consciousness of and respect for the Force was very attractive for some reason. There were a couple scenes where she appears to just be basking in a field of flowers or a cave of kyber crystals, with the prose describing her as feeling the Force in the wind or the eery silence of the cave and I just... fell in love. Luceno knows how to make you feel when he has to. You can definitely see how Galen could be so smitten with her.
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>>88848640
>They suffered from Stormtrooper aim
More like shitting their pants. Hard to shoot straight when death incarnate is coming for your ass.
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>>88848606
Yes. I particularly liked Rogue One's since we get the characters internal monologues before they die.
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>>88848566
It's kinda hard to aim when you've shat your pants.
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>>88848706
It was like feeling the Force is a constant full body orgasm with none of the tension or convulsions but all of the bliss
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>>88848625
I like this one.
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The Jedi got what they deserved.
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>>88848566
Oh Anakin, still trying to be as suave and manly as Obi-Wan. Maybe if your burned face could finally grow a beard, but alas...
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>>88848913
Post more Cutie Wars.
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>>88848913
sauce?
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Been on vacation and post-vacation sickness for a week. Anyway, any new episode announcements/teasers?
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>>88848913
Man, we've been over this. Those are BLUE shots. That means they were set to stun. Blue rings are normal stun, blue bolts are super stun. That's no massacre, that's just giving them a Time Out.
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Why was Rogue One so perfect? Why did I immediately head home and watch ANH?

Why is it so good?
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>>88849215
Depends on what you saw last.
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>>88848510
I hate how bland Ben Mendelsohn is in this. Fuck Disney,
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>>88849281
Ezra and Maul seeing Obi-Wan in a vision but not knowing of tatooine.
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>>88848467
...No.
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>>88849252
Because they cared about the quality of the film rather than how best to make a franchise out of it.
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>>88848469
WOW WHAT A CUTE JEDI
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>>88848637
Prove it, without sounding like a complete asshat
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>>88848637
>TFA killed Star Wars

Not a fan but it really didn't.
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>>88849314
Look in the OP. We're getting Saw Gurrera in Rebels, and the episode airs in just 4 days
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Hearing 2 old Japanese ladies talk about the quality of the Leia cgi was one of my highlights of watching Rogue One in Japan.
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>>88849314
See Saw. See Saw hold a gun to a baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0cP4ULXD58
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>>88849479
Did they like it?
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>>88849608
>Did they rike it?
ftfy
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>>88849183
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>>88848469
Huh, she actually does look a lot like Felicity Jones.
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>>88849977
What a fucking waste.

Why couldn't Rebels had been about the Rogue One Team, with the movie being the big ending for it?
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>>88850007
Because we have two completely different stories being told, and they're coexisting pretty well together?

The Ghost is still at the Battle, and we'll probably get an episode all about it
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>>88850096
But if Rebels was about the Rogue One team I might have actually given a shit about the cast for either of them.

Instead you have a show where the main characters are never in any danger, and a movie where you have no reason to care about anyone.
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>>88849977
Here's a slightly larger version of that
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>>88850157
Sounds like a personal problem
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>>88850157
Anon, the main characters in every piece of star wars media in the history of the franchise are "not in any danger" for the majority of their screentime. It's a family-friendly adventure fantasy series for goodness sakes.
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>>88850189
Sorry, why should I care about Asian Man 1, or Asian Man 2, or Vaguely brown man, or the white girl and the other guy?
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>>88850238
It sounds like a personal problem you couldn't relate to the characters. especially when we are given all the info we need to know
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>>88850238
I'm not gonna tell you what to care about, dude.
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>>88850157
>Rebels will only be good if people die!
Let me guess, you're a huge Game of Thrones fan?
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>>88850231
and you consider this good writing? A story with zero drama in any way? why should I watch or read, or listen to something when I already know that any problem the hero comes across will be solved with zero danger to themselves or anything that matters to them?
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What are some comics featuring Kyle Katarn?

More importantly, are they any good
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>>88850292
Stories are only as good as their conflicts, and Rebels has none.
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>>88850372
If you don't like it, you're in the wrong franchise. It's not a Rebels problem, it's a Star Wars one.

And IMO, it's not even a problem. Again, family friendly adventure fantasy series.

It's not Game of Thrones.
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>>88850372
>and you consider this good writing? A story with zero drama in any way?
you're acting like what youre saying is fact. there are plenty of people that think the writing is fine.
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>>88850393
You've clearly never seen the show.
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>>88850381
Well there's-
>good
There aren't any.
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>>88850393
This is not remotely true considering we saw Ezra lose his parents and Kanan losing his sight.
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>>88850393
You haven't actually watched the show then, good to know.
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>>88850393
>I don't actually watch the show but I'm gonna pretend I know what it's about based on shitposts
I'm waiting for you to complain about the laser slingshot.
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>>88850417
>It's not Game of Thrones.
It's not even Disney. Star Wars is what you get when you make a five billion dollar "learning to read" book. It's a wonder you don't get stickers at the end of every episode.
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>>88850428

Well fuck.

Someday the whole world will know of the second greatest Jedi there is.
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>>88850372
If your definition of drama and good writing is as one-dimensional as "Do people die?" then I have no idea how your tastes have evolved to the point where you dislike Star Wars yet still judge media based on such a shallow criterion.

Why are you in a Star Wars thread?
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>>88850505
>it's baby shit for babies!
I feel like I'm in 2008 again
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>>88850505
Are you perhaps suggesting that Star Wars is baby shit for babies
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>>88850505
Mediocre.
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What a terrible thread: >>>/tv/77948217
Pay attention to post style, it's easy to spot shitposters who invade /co/ and /tg/
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>>88851374
Your shipfu a shit
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Now that Rebel are confirmed in Rogue One, with both Chopper and the Ghost appearing and Hera being called on the rebel base intercom, will we see Ezra in any capacity in Episode 8?

Will he be part of the Knights of Ren or as one of Luke's new Padawans alongside Rey, considering Kanaan could only teach him so much?
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>>88851646
Honestly I doubt we'll see them in 8 or 9. Even if any of them are intended to survive that long, I think Filoni and Ridge would want to avoid showing that and giving it away.

The cameos in Rogue One are close enough to the timeframe of rebels (which is apparently going to go for at least 7 seasons) that their inclusion isn't that big of a spoiler. Showing any of them in Episode 8 would be a different story.
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>>88851646

>yfw Hera and Chopper are the last ones left during Rogue One and everyone else is dead
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>>88851729
Maybe Sabine finally manned up and took responsibility for Clan Vizla, Garrazeb went to work with the rebel ground forces and Kanaan and Ezra followed the newly returned Luke Skywalker to one of the Jedi temples?
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>>88851729
Good, fuck Sabine, she's worthless, she exists only for marketing purposes and to make mandofags angry
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>>88850007
A "tv show then a movie" isn't usually a winning formula
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So I finally stared watching the clone wars movie and was it me or Ahsoka early introduction seen to be fill with sexual innuendo?
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>>88851847
Its just you and everyone else who has shit taste

Ashoka a SHIT
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>>88851729
One twi'lek and an astromech can't fly a ship into battle all by themselves.
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I really hope they change their mind about Snoke's height. It'd be much more interesting if he was an actual giant rather than just being 7 feet tall.
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>>88851936
Muun aren't giants.
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>>88848412
>Order!
Yes, I would like the bacon triple deluxe cheeseburger, no lettuce, with a side of chicken strips, extra gravy, two butter rolls, one basket of hot wings and a diet Coke.

...And water for the girls.
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>>88852690
Snoke's not a Muun
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What character's fate do you want to learn most about?
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>>88851791
>Kanaan and Ezra followed the newly returned Luke Skywalker to one of the Jedi temples
Rogue One is set before A New Hope.
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>>88852834
Meebur Gascon
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>>88851936
Ditto. I was really disappointed when it turned out he was just a hologram in TFA.
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>>88852855
Overthrew Sheev in the second year of his reign. Currently piloting a lifelike Sheev droid.
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>>88852834
Elan Sleazebaggano
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>>88852927
Went home and rethought his life
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>>88852834
Blam Supplebutt
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>>88852968
Went into Hutt porn and had to change their last name.
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>>88852766
Darth Plagueis was a Muun. He's obviously been deluded into thinking Snoke is Plagueis.
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>>88853078
>Darth Plagueis was a Muun
But even he was not a Muun to death.
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>>88853112
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>>88852849
>kanaan and ezra are killed by the knights of ren
their entire life will be a lie
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>>88853112
kek
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>>88853112
jej
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Too bad Trench got killed in the story reels for season 6.

I would have liked to see him in Rebels, commanding parts of the Rebel fleet and becoming Thrawn's Rival.
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>>88853112
fucking kek
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is the novel for Rogue One worth reading? Does it add anything valuable. For reference, I found the force awakens novelization to be worth it
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>>88853078

no he wasnt. Anything that says Plagueis was a Muun is no longer canon. He could be anything now
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>>88853496
Are you telling me this fucker survived that giant explosion? He canonacally survived two giant ships explosion? Why every bad guy in this show survive deadly explosion, sometimes without even a scratch?
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>>88853112
I don't get it
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>>88854052
Read the sentence in your head a few times fast
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>>88853989
High soak
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Is Anakin & Obi-wan any good?
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>>88854291
It's alright. It's not amazing but it's not bad.
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>>88853078
You're going to feel real silly December 15
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>>88853496
Aside from Cassian are there any other Separatist turned Rebels?
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>>88854571
We know that a few cells existed at some point (and may still exist) and there were a lot of Separatist holdouts, but they haven't really gone into much detail about them. I don't think we've had any other major Rebel characters who were former Separatists
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>>88851374
I hope we get a Revell kit of this ship.
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Can we get that hammerhead cruiser humiliating two Star Destroyers?
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>>88853699
Rogue One's novelization is definitely worthwhile. Off the top of my head there are a few pretty decent additions like ground-level perspectives of the Death Star's destruction and Jyn asking about certain members of Saw's rebels.

>>88854291
It wasn't particularly spectacular but I enjoyed it. It does a good job of exploring some of the relationships that are central to Anakin in the prequels and Checchetto's art is nice.
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>>88854720
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>>88851870
kind of a spoiler to tell us the Rebel survive. One would think Thrawn would have done some serious shit to them before the events of this movie.
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>>88854748
We know the show is going for at least 7 seasons(which would make it end past ANH) so it's not a spoiler at all
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>>88854729
Bravo.
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>>88848412
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>>88854831
I don't get it
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>>88854729
That does raise the important question of why the heck they attack the shield earlier and not just blow up the ring.
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>>88854831
He would have handed Valorum his Walken papers when Sheev took over.
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>>88854748
There's still room for Thrawn to do damage by offing a main character like Zeb or Kanan (To say nothing about Sato or Cham, who I view as the likely casualties) as the only thing Rogue One tells us is that Chopper, the Ghost, and Hera survive.

It's also probably worth noting that destroying the Ghost and killing multiple (if not all) members of the Ghost crew at once was always highly unlikely from a storytelling perspective.
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>>88854946
They tried, they were attacking it but weren't doing any damage to the shield or the gate
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>>88855006
I'm guessing Thrawn is going to wreck the Phoenix fleet, but not kill any of the Ghost crew.

I'm also guessing people will bitch that Rebels ruined Thrawn because he didn't kill all of the main cast.
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>>88855085
They've been bitching because he hasn't already done it. Apparently these people think Thrawn was some uber-mastermind who completely destroyed the New Republic.

If he does take out Sato's fleet, that would actually be more than he accomplished in the Thrawn trilogy.
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https://www.twitch

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Here's the stream where Freddie said that Rebels was picked up for it's entire run

Starts at 37m22s in the stream in case that link doesn't work
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>>88852690
that's no Muun
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where does the Lando comic fit in the timeline of the other star wars and vader comics? I need to know for a fic.
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>>88855499
There's no concrete date set, so it's semi-ambiguous, but it's presumed to be shortly after ANH because that is when Leia/Chewbacca's comics were set, and I am pretty sure those three comics are being collected together in a hardback.

It also gives a decent amount of time to pass for him to reach where he is on Bespin in ESB, while not being too early in the timeline.
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>>88848467
I wonder if it will reach TFA or if it's going to stay roughly where it is now
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>>88850007
>Why couldn't Rebels had been about the Rogue One Team, with the movie being the big ending for it?

I ain't watching 100+ episodes of a cartoon to understand what's happening in a 2 hour movie.
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>>88851646
>Series Finale of Rebels
>Ezra is on Alderaan awaiting Bail about info on the Death Star
>cut to green
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>>88855722
Rogue One scene:

Mon Mothma:
>What about your Jedi friend?

Bail:
>Which one? Obi-Wan, Kanan, Ezra, or Ahsoka?

MM:
>The one that isn't dead
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>>88855944
What did he mean by this?
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George should charged Disney more for Star Wars, 4billion is a steal.
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>>88855944
LAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUNCHHHHH
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>>88855944
Nah.
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>>88849977
>>88850166
How misleading, it makes Sabine look important.
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>>88856160
Speaking of Sabine. Didn't they tell us she was going to get better this season?
And yet she's just as shit as usual?
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>>88856182
They said she'd get more episodes and development and such. It hasn't really been a significant improvement though. She's easily the most meh thing about Rebels, which is definitely unexpected.

Nobody could have predicted that Hera and Zeb would become more beloved than Sabine.
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>>88849535
When will Saw get fat?
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>>88856160
>>88856182
So, is she related to Satine somehow?
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>>88856223
He's already much chubbier than his TCW form.

I'm guessing this last year before Rogue One is really gonna fuck him up though
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>>88856232
No, Filoni says her parents are in the room where Maul executes Pre Visla, and we're probably going to learn more about that eventually.
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>yfw Saw mentions/references Jyn comparing her to Sabine or Ezra
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Why is Ezra such a fuccboi?
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>>88850543
But anon, Zayne Carrick got his own comic series
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>>88852834
Urrghh'arragh'urrr
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>>88856282
this meme is getting old
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>>88856358
What meme?
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requesting the pic for recommended mousecanon, thinking of doing some reading but don't want to sort through the shit manually

Rogue One was really based, I hope we get more like it, across different eras
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>>88855130
Nah, bro, nothing beats out him besieging Coruscant with invisible asteroids and ganking the entire Katana fleet while nobody was looking. Hell, even the data raid on Obroa-Skai with just 4 ships was pretty much considered a suicide mission anyone else would have failed. Him breaking Phoenix fleet would be a mediocre keikaku compared to some of his book stuff.
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>>88856216

>zeb
>beloved

By whom?
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>>88856496
me
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>>88856496
Are you honestly saying that you prefer Sabine, as a character, over Zeb?
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>>88856514

Go to bed Kallus, you're drunk again.
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>>88856374
the SS meme
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>>88856542

No, I hate them both equally. They're shit in different ways.
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>>88856564
not a meme
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>>88856564
Thats not a meme
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>>88852834
Rey, Finn, Poe, and Kylo Ren.
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>>88856358
>getting old
it's been old. it's just one guy forcing it at this point.
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>>88856549
You're a fool to question finding love in a hopeless place.
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>>88856602
How can Lasat even compete?
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Can we agree that the Umbara arc is the best arc from TCW?
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>>88856602
I'd care more if Zeb wasn't an even more useless Worf.
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>>88856249
Oh god please yes.
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>>88856764
Why do references like that mean so much to you faggots?
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>>88856687
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>>88856775
>muh continuity
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>>88856775
It's almost like continuity and character/worldbuilding means something

It's almost like fanservice can make fans happy

Stop trying to shit on peoples parade
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>>88856687
This and the slavery arc
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>>88856799
>>88856788
But you people talk about crying and creaming your pants over this shit, like it's the most important thing in your shitty little lives.
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>>88856820
Why are you being a meanie
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>>88856809
Slavery arc was stupid, and it showcased what made the Jedi Order a senseless institution.

>vast slaver empire
>Jedi show up for no reason, trash it, and leave
>slaver empire builds back up decades later
>Jedi do nothing because 'not Republic problem'
>civil war breaks out
>Jedi show up to wreck slaver empire again because other side sells slaves

So let me get this right: it's fine and okay to be a slaver empire to the Jedi as long as the Republic isn't offended by it? Then why did they wreck the Tygerrians in the first place if the Republic had never had a beef with them until they got in bed with the Separatists? It's back-asswards even as an SJW agenda, especially since the Jedi STILL turn a blind eye to slavery in Huttspace, so it's apparent it's not an actual problem with slavery as an institution given how many passes slavers get. Them NEEDING to railroad Anakin's "I hate slavery" schtick into TCW made a mess out of the Jedi's priorities as well as smearing a thick chunk of shit all over the Republic's face that they pick and choose which slavers to prosecute, and THIS is a government people like Padme Amidala support and back to the fullest extent of their power?
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>>88856909
The Jedi were never wanting to use the Clones though. They had no choice. They bring that up multiple times in both TCW and the movies.
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>>88856820
>crying and creaming your pants

Come now, anon, now's not the time for tears: that comes later.
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>>88856926
>clones

Did that word even show up in the quoted post?
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>>88856459
I was reading the trilogy long after it achieved the level of worship it gets from the fandom and I thought Thrawn wasn't all that incredible.

But that's not really the problem of his character - like you said, especially him fucking over Coruscant and being an effective force with such scant resources at his disposal was impressive. The problem was that I never felt like he was a personal threat to any of the heroes. He was a military threat to the NR as a whole, but he never really challenged Luke, Han and Leia personally. Zahn wrote the novels in such a way that they always got their little victory, even if Thrawn's greater war machine only gained more momentum.

How can Thrawn be a truly challenging villain if he doesn't put the protagonists in danger, directly? He never pushed them, personally, to their lowest. Luke rekts anything that's thrown his way without effort and the whole Thrawn crisis is just a side-issue to him, compared to the whole C'Baoth thing. Leia solos Honoghr right under Thrawn's nose. Han just freely flies around, dealing with the smugglers and other underworld elements. Thrawn gets the Katana fleet, but even that event is written in such a way that the OT3 gets away scot-free (and with a new powerful ally). The only character who is really challenged throughout the whole story is Mara Jade. I never felt any tension regarding anyone else.

Fuck the OT3 worship, seriously. I want drama, I want them to be dragged through the dirt, I want them to earn their victories. Most of TTT is just smooth sailing for them and that's just dull.

So, anyway, I suppose Rebels' impotent "Let them have their little victory :)" Thrawn is a faithful adaptation indeed.
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>>88856909
yes, it's ok if the good guys do it but if the bad guys do it then it will be bad forever.
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>>88856937
Nevermind, I am retarded, I thought the implication of the post was that the Clones were "slaves" to the Republic, and the Jedi were hypocrites. Which is half true, from a certain point of view.

Didn't realize the post was entirely about the Hutt's and their slavery vs the Zygarrians.

The only answer I have is that the war was namely between Separatist and Republic space, with the Hutt's and their space staying mostly involved in the war. Not to mention the Hutt's would put up a strong fight, and a lot of innocent blood would be spilled if the Republic tried to shut their shit down. The highest bounties possible on every Senator there is.

The Hutt's are simply far too strong.

Plus, Zygarrian slaves were basically prisoners doing manual labour, whereas the slaves in Hutt space were just working however best they can earn money for their owners, and keep on truckin. Kinda like wageslaves irl anyways.
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>>88856909
And Anakin had no problem in helping Jabbe when needed.
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>>88856972
Thrawn was never meant to be a direct challenge to them, in the same sense the Emperor was never really a direct challenge to them. C'Baoth and Mara Jade were Luke's challengers; Leia is basically helpless until the Honoghr reveal, hampered by her responsibilities as part of the government that's rapidly losing faith in her as Thrawn toys with the NR; Han is essentially no threat whatsoever even with his underworld contacts because he "went straight" and no one trusts him, and if Jade had done her job, Karrde would have neutralized him regardless. Thrawn was aware of who needed to be dealt with and took steps to place challengers in their path while he dealt with his own challenge in the greater military of the NR, in the same fashion that the Emperor had the Imperial military and Vader deal with the Rebellion for him instead of going onto a flagship to fight the battles directly himself.

If you're looking for drama for the heroes, you're not going to find it within a broad domain that antagonists like Thrawn operate in, you're going to find it in the Gar Saxons, the Kalluses, the Mauls, who face the heroes directly and make shit personal. Thrawn, at no point in the trilogy, made anything personal against any of them, even the C'baoth/Luuke thing was just to throw something in front of the token Jedi to keep him from being free to operate at will.
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>>88854729
>EA will never fund a space sim detailed enough where you could do this
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>>88857104
Just play Star Citizen when it comes out in 2085
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>>88857128
3085*
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>>88857016
>. Not to mention the Hutt's would put up a strong fight

Bullshit. The Hutts were so weak at that point the Republic literally stole one of their own people and threw him in prison without them saying a word. Their infighting alone kept them vulnerable enough the Jedi could have wrecked their shit the same way they did the Zygerrians, but they didn't. Why? Because they're hypocrites, and because the Republic doesn't really give a shit about whether or not slavery exists. It's only when a third party gets involved that the Republic deigns to bother with "cleaning up" slavery, as was the case with Zygerria, but I'm sure that was of great comfort to the Shmi Skywalkers of the Outer Rim knowing how the almighty Republic was going around liberating slaves when they felt like it.
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Krennic, you're what the Twi'lek call "les incompetents."
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>>88857128
>expecting a release date that early
Top kek.
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>>88857139
4085*
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>>88857151
Are you talking about Ziro?
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>>88857151
One can argue that they wanted Ziro dead too, and they actually stole him back from them.
But to be fair the srength of the Hutt is simple in the money, they controll the black market, and their currency his the one used by criminals and bounty hunters the most. They are organized crime and the slavery isnt their only way to make profit, smuggling is another one for example.
They didnt put them down for the same reason its hard to put down organized crime irl too, you can put in prison the head, but someone will take his place. It was in jedi interest to keep Jabba in his place, since he was an ally, and taking down his empire would have been too hard
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>>88852740
I'LL HAVE TWO NUMBER NINES
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>>88851936
>Luke and Rey back Snoke into a corner
>Kylo Ren throws his lightsaber
>MAGIC WAND MAKE MY MASTER GROW
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>>88854765
We might lose some members, or contact to them. Say, Ezra and Kanan disappear.
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>>88854765
They'll survive the events of the OT.

The Ghost will last be seen in the vicinity of Hosnian Prime
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Did rebels s1 get an OST release?


I'm wondering if Thrawns theme will ever release with clean audio
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>>88856216
Kanan is the only good member of the crew. The only person I've been reasonably surprised by this season is Ezra.
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>>88854291
I would have liked it more if it was five issues of Palpatine taking Anakin to nightclubs.
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>>88858064
Season 1 and Season 2 both got soundtrack releases. Thrawn's theme was also released on the Star Wars site.

We have a OP for a reason
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>>88850428
Nu canon shill detected
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>>88858178
Reread the post and try again
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>>88858174
Cheers senpai

I'm not clicking through that mess of links for a simple question with a simple answer
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>>88858196
There's a Pastebin with download links for everything in the galaxy, including the soundtracks. It will do you well to learn how to read.
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>>88856909
I wouldn't say it makes them senseless, but rather strangled by bureaucracy the moment they decided to serve "peace and justice" within the Republic and only within. The rest of the galaxy, Outer Rim and all could hardly be a factor until the Clone Wars made it convenient.

The Jedi need to be a third party free to act of its own accord while still within the laws of wherever they travel. I think Luke's NJO did something similar at the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War, but they never really got to explore that new dynamic. If there was one thing I liked about that bit of the EU, it was the question of where exactly the Jedi belonged within the hierarchy of Republic institutions.

>tfw the New Jedi Order the series title alluded to came about literally at the end of it

What tricksters. I know Luke's canon Order looks to be a severe downgrade or even completely annihilated at the outset, but so long as it serves a worthwhile purpose at the end of everything, I guess I can be okay with it. He may have been the return of the Jedi, but he was also the last of the Jedi - and if we know anything of titles or prophecies with Star Wars, they usually stick until their need is rendered mute.
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>>88858221
Is Shara the new Mara?
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>>88858283
In looks only, otherwise no
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>tfw you woke up and aftermath still exists
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>>88851936
>saw the rise and fall of the empire
>came from unknown regions with a lite empire at his side
>ominous music and other characters make him look like a huge threat
>has a bunch of darkside users working for him

Dude's a lite Vitiate who was lite Nihilus. Prove me wrong.
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>>88858043
Maybe her butt hurts
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>>88858453
feels bad
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>>88858539
From what?
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>>88854052
>A Munn
>Amunn
>Amunne
>Imunne
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>>88858453
I'm halfway through the first one now. Temmin is on the short list of most obnoxious characters in Star Wars
>Temmin we have to get out of here the Empire is coming
>FUCK YOU FOR SAVING THE GALAXY MOM MUH JUNK SHOP
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>>88858702
Chicken butt
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Why did the officer not shoot an escape pod that launched during a sensitive retrieval mission? DS plans would not have registered as a lifeform so that's not an excuse. Also, the lifeform comment implies that they would have shot it if it had a lifeform, plans or no plans.

Why did Obi-Wan kill himself? Everything he tells Luke in later movies he could have told him while still alive.

Why does ROTJ pretend that Vader redeemed himself, when in ANH he's an accessory to planetcide?
That's a whole planet of men women and children he just enabled the Empire to destroy.

Why does Leia lead the Empire right to Yavin 4?

Why doesn't the DS just shoot the planet in the way of Yavin 4 first?
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>>88859133
>Why did the officer not shoot an escape pod that launched during a sensitive retrieval mission? DS plans would not have registered as a lifeform so that's not an excuse. Also, the lifeform comment implies that they would have shot it if it had a lifeform, plans or no plans.
Because the plot needed the droids to land on the planet
>Why did Obi-Wan kill himself? Everything he tells Luke in later movies he could have told him while still alive.
Because the plot needed Obi-Wan to die
>Why does ROTJ pretend that Vader redeemed himself, when in ANH he's an accessory to planetcide? That's a whole planet of men women and children he just enabled the Empire to destroy.
Because the plot needed Vader to be redeemed
>Why does Leia lead the Empire right to Yavin 4?
Because the plot needed Leia to take them there
>Why doesn't the DS just shoot the planet in the way of Yavin 4 first?
Because the plot needed the Rebels to have some time to attack
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>>88859133
>Why doesn't the DS just shoot the planet in the way of Yavin 4 first?

The recharge would have taken more time than just waiting
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>>88859397
this post REALLY REALLY REALLY made me think
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>>88859398
Yavin is a gas giant. I wonder if the Death Star had enough power to shoot through it and still hit the moon?
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>>88859133
why would you waste a laser on a random malfunction? if you shot at every bit if space debris your senior will get mighty angry

he likely foresaw that only one of them was walking off the death star alive, so he accepted his death, by allowing vader to kill him, he shows that unlike darth he has made peace with death

thematically, it shows that even one thought so far gone can still be brought back, luke felt good in him through the force, and he would bring that out or die trying

leia warned han about the tracking beacon, but han was too arrogant to listen

why would you fire such a big and presumably expensive laser to cut 15 minutes off your schedule, especially when you are being attacked by snub fighters, and we don't know how many shots the death star has in a day, it could take hours to keep the shot. if you told tarkin to blast that planet to shave half an hour, he would think you a madman
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>>88859133
>Why did the officer not shoot an escape pod that launched during a sensitive retrieval mission? DS plans would not have registered as a lifeform so that's not an excuse. Also, the lifeform comment implies that they would have shot it if it had a lifeform, plans or no plans.
Straight up incompetence my friend, and plot.

>Why did Obi-Wan kill himself? Everything he tells Luke in later movies he could have told him while still alive.
I dunno, inspire Luke? Luke could've been on the fence about all that hero/force shit, gives him something to beleive in I guess? I really don't know.
Also plot, and drama, and Alec pushed for it I think.

>Why does ROTJ pretend that Vader redeemed himself, when in ANH he's an accessory to planetcide?
That's a whole planet of men women and children he just enabled the Empire to destroy.
Totally, in reality nothing is gonna redeem Vader for the horrific shit he did.
Think more brought balance to the force than classic redemption.

>Why does Leia lead the Empire right to Yavin 4?
Hindsight is 20/20. but really, straight up plot.

>Why doesn't the DS just shoot the planet in the way of Yavin 4 first?
Again, plot.

Dude have you just watched Star Wars HISHE or some shit?
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>>88859467
>random malfunction
Yeah, no. They'd have to braindead to think that given the situation.
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>>88859450
gas giant still have a core
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How common was it for Jedi to form forbidden attachments, get married, etc. in secret? Anakin couldn't possibly have been the only one
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>>88859450
Why bother with the math of shooting around and through a planet when you can just spend a couple minutes and go around it?
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>>88859534
I mean, he was much older than any child they'd brought to the temple in ages.
They probably stamped out sex drive in the rest of them.
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>>88859534
All the Jedi had side tail and families.
But they all keep it a secret.
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>>88859534
Meh, most of them did it!
Special circumstances allowed it, Ki Adi Mundi had like four wives and seven daughters.
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>>88859555
Because they know the rebels have a technical read out of the DS and appear to be flying toward a specific target?
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>>88859486
that exactly what the gunner said, he was probably over worked and cranky, they just came from sarif and then chased a blockade runner to the outer run to fight yet again

he was probably trying not to tally more expenses, he might have been behind his paper work as is
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>>88859557
This is fucking sad
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>>88859576
By the time the rebels attacked they were minutes away from being in range, and their fighters had destroyed the majority of enemy ships. Tarkin is right in his presumption that they would win.
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>>88859598
>Tarkin is right in his presumption that they would win.

I take it you haven't seen the film?
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>>88859576
>any attack against this station would be a useless gesture, regardless of whatever technical data the rebels have
>sir we have analyzed their attack patterb and there may be a problem, shall I have your transport ready? leave now at my moment of glory?

seems like they were arrogant to me
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>>88859557
>They probably stamped out sex drive in the rest of them.
I seriously doubt this, Obi Wan was getting that royal Mandalorian pussy when he was a teenaged padawan
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>>88859557
>>88859584
Obi Wan clearly had one though, even if he didn't indulge it.

One would hope that the Jedi that do form attachments they can't deal with simply leave the order.
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>>88859668
TCW doesn't gel with the films for many reasons, that's just a small one.
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So I've been playing KOTOR for the first time after hearing all the hubbub, and while it's not a bad game at all (even if it has aged horribly), am I the only one who finds it ironic how people gave TFA shit for being criminally derivative yet KOTOR is also the same? I mean, Taris is Alderaan (with upper Taris also being Coruscant), T3-M4 is R2, HK-47 is a murderous 3PO (and there are more 3PO-like protocol droids in the game too), Zaalbar is Chewbacca, Darth Malak is Darth Vader (bald cyborg Sith Lord), Vandar Tokare is Yoda, the Sith Empire is the Galactic Empire, the Star Forge is the Death Star (McGuffin artifacts the bad guys use), the Jedi get BTFO (not as badly as in before ANH but still). Hell, they've even got a sequence similar to the TIE Fighter attack on the Millennium Falcon as a gameplay feature.

Sheesh. I'm surprised they didn't give Calo Nord green Mandalorian armor, or at least a jetpack.
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>>88859605
What possible reason would Tarkin have had to honestly believe that one ship was going to make an impossible shot that would destroy the station in a chain reaction that he didn't know existed?
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>>88859692
Simple logic?
>rebels have the plans
>seem to be flying toward a specific location on the DS
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>>88859689
kotor did not become a movie accessible to millilns, with a scope encompassing even casual fans, and with broad demographic appeal
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>>88859572
>Special circumstances allowed it, Ki Adi Mundi had like four wives and seven daughters.

Not anymore he doesn't.
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>>88859689
It's just a game, while TFA was the actual next movie. KOTOR 1 and 2 still have a better story, especially 2.
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>>88859711
tarkin was informed that the rebels had a plan, he did not care

he brushed off the attack since they were just snub fighters, vader ordered the fighters not tarkin

until that point, the attack seemed to be failing

also vader was mere seconds from destroying luke, tarkin very nearly got the victory he thought he would have had
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>>88859711
>>rebels have the plans
>>seem to be flying toward a specific location on the DS

>and we've killed 99% of them with the best pilot the galaxy has ever seen, and some other pilots he picked out himself, on the last guys tail

As Solo says the shot was one in a million. Hedging a bet on it actually working would have been foolish.
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So The Snare and The Nest are out today, anyone going to be uploading?
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>>88859689
It was straight up intended as a tribute, had enough elements from its own to plug the gaps, and was a lot longer, meaning the it could use them to dilute the rip offs .

Remember it was also released during the prequels run, so a bit of OT was welcome. I know there was plenty of OT era books, but most people who bought the game wouldn't have read them
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>>88859697
DISCLAIMER- this is not a comment on whether TCW is better or worse than the PT

>Anakin is a different character
>the dialogue between Anakin and Dooku in ROTS is a parrallel of their AOTC dialogue, implying that they haven't fought since then.
>Obi acts suprised at Grevious's arms seperating, when he's seen it plenty of times in TCW
>Dooku is even more simplistically evil in the show than in the films
>Ahsoka just doesn't fit. It's not a question whether she CAN be sqeezed in there, it's that her whole character is completely pointless because ROTS makes no mention of her, and really does not paint Anakin as mature enough to have a padawan (leads back to point 1).
>Obi Wan having a female quasi love interest just dilutes the whole point of a Anakin's fall
>Maul came back after being chopped in half and knocked into a seemingly bottomless pit, and came back as a fucking chatterbox to boot (this is where I dropped the show)

etc
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>>88859801
>Remember it was also released during the prequels run, so a bit of OT was welcome.
KOTOR is aesthetically much closer to the PT though.
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>>88854946
The ring doesn't charge the shield. It just has special material that dips down and blocks the shield so ships can pass through.
The Star Destroyer hitting the space station didn't have anything to do with the shield going down.
After the Destroyer smashes through the station, the Destroyer comes in contact with the shield itaelf and overloads it causing it to weaken.
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>>88856927
For you.
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Inquisitor Barriss fucking when. I want my waifu back.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>88859676
>>88859668

Is this confirmed somehow? Obi said that he was a kid when he first meet Satin, and he stayed in Mandalore for only one year
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>>88860060
That would work a lot better with the classic helmet.
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>>88859860
Glad I'm not the only one who thought Maul talked way too much in TCW.
It probably would've made sense if he gradually spoke more throughout the show, but I'm just nitpicking.
On the other hand, he should've stopped trying to succeed only to fail, after Mother Talzin died.
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Finished season 2 the other day.

The finale was amazing, should I go for season 3 or wait a bit to not suffer hiatus?
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>>88860246
Hiatus ends this weekend.
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>>88860246
Watch Season 3 now, the hiatus ends this week.
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>>88853729
This. Nemoidian Plagueis is my headcanon since he looks cool and it explains how Palpatine got in with the Trade Federation.
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>>88857600
Your argument holds no water when Maul and his brother can cobble together a collection of scumbags and make the Hutt Cartel their bitch without effort, and you claim a concerted effort by the Jedi Order to reduce the Hutts to poverty and bring them under Republic control on the grounds of declaring slavery verboten on a galactic scale couldn't accomplish the same?

There is nothing to suggest the Republic was afraid to take on the Hutts. There is nothing to suggest the Jedi couldn't have handily crippled the Cartel families at will. They simply chose not to do either because it wasn't political enough to do so, whereas Zygerria doing business with the CIS made devastating their culture politically worthy to act on, while the Hutts get a nod and a wink to keep on doing business as usual. The slavery arc in TCW and all their justifications, when applied to actual practice, don't hold up when laid over how the galaxy actually works. The Republic wouldn't have bat an eye if that entire Togruta population vanished overnight if not for the ONE reason of the CIS invading Kiros, and neither would the Jedi Order have cared if not for the CIS invading Kiros. Ergo, it must be concluded that the Republic attack on Zygerria was not, in fact, motivated by freeing slaves or ending slavery at all, and that is why the so-called 'slavery arc' of TCW is a hot mess, and a shit story with a shit plot and shit reasons for why it even happened at all jammed into the continuity for the express purpose of someone (Filoni) deciding they wanted to play with Anakin's "I don't like slavery" personality trait and going about in such a half-assed way that in the aftermath, he's only revealed to be a mama's boy and not an anti-slavery activist, displaying yet another vein of weakness in his character and another weakness in his backstory that's been mishandled since Lucas had his mitts in it. I wish Tatooine and slavery had never even figured into his background.
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>>88853729
>>88860384
But if they ever bring back Plagueis, why would they bother to change the species Lucas stated that he was?
Also, Luceno still writes for SW, so if they give the first canon Plagueis story to him then Plagueis is going to stay a Munn.
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http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/01/gareth-edwards-on-the-missing-tie-fighter-scene-in-rogue-one-why-they-dropped-the-crawl-and-the-wipes-and-more.html

>Gareth on that infamous bacta tank scene and Vader:

> I’m jealous of moments like in Empire Strikes Back where you see the back of [Vader’s] head and you just go, “oh my God, that is so cool,” and wanted to try and find something like that in our film. [The bacta tank scene] was actually a Chris Cunningham-inspired thing of the idea of being in milk [like in the Bjork music video] All Is Full Of Love. He’s really a burns victim, and it’s not going to be fun for him when he’s not in the suit – he’s going to be uncomfortable. I love the idea of showing that he’s vulnerable as well. Vader’s very, very bad, and so you try and just glimpse something of him that gives him some humanity, or it makes you empathise with him. Just seeing those scars and realising that he’s, you know, an amputee, and just reminding you of that before he does all his stuff, it makes you torn, I think. He’s just such a rich character, in so many ways.

Based Gareth
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>>88860468
>The word “hope” that Princess Leia speaks at the end of the movie is taken from A New Hope:

> The dialogue is taken, yes, but not the image. It’s a 3D [composite].

Neat
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>>88860384
Neimoidians a shit, and they eat fungus. If they don't canonize Plagueis as a Muun, maybe they should consider bringing a different species back into the light.
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>>88853729
Well fuck that opinion.
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>>88860066
He was old enough to say that he would have left the order if she asked, and still have meant it later on, so we can assume he was at least in his late teens.
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>>88860413
>make the Hutt Cartel their bitch without effort
When did that happen?
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>>88860197
I really don't know how to feel about new Maul. On one hand it's cool he got some development given he had zero personality in TPM but at the same time it kinda feels like Damage Control: The character and a bit unnecessary.
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>>88860522
Not terribly long after this.
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>>88860522
TCW, though the Hutts also ditched Maul at the first opportunity so it wasn't a very tight control
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>>88860510
Anakin drooled after Padme when he was ten, but he only managed to made here pregnant many years later
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>>88860592
>ten

Try eight.
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>>88860611
He was 10 in TPM dude
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>>88860556
>given he had zero personality in TPM
I don't know where the meme started that he needed some kind of wrinkle.
He's literally a Sith attack dog with a memorable design.

Palpatine/Sidous is the villian of TPM. Maul is just a force of nature at Palpatine's command.
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>>88860624
*Sidious
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>>88859860
>Anakin is a different character
No he is not. He is the snarky, charismatic war hero we get a glimpse of at the start of RotS

>the dialogue between Anakin and Dooku in ROTS is a parrallel of their AOTC dialogue, implying that they haven't fought since then.
"My powers have doubled since the last time, Count" can easily be referring to the last time they fought in TCW.

>Obi acts suprised at Grevious's arms seperating, when he's seen it plenty of times in TCW
He was surprised Greivous did it so quickly. Greivous usually waits to reveal his extra arms, to get the upper hand on his opponent, but now of course, he doesn't need too. What's more rediculous is the notion that Greivous kept his extra arms secret for three years, only to randomly reveal them in an honor duel with Kenobi.

(cont...)
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>>88859860
>>88860658
>Dooku is even more simplistically evil in the show than in the films
This isn't a consistency problem, it's just TCW sadly didn't give Dooku much of a character spotlight, like they did with the other villains.

>Ahsoka just doesn't fit. It's not a question whether she CAN be sqeezed in there, it's that her whole character is completely pointless because ROTS makes no mention of her, and really does not paint Anakin as mature enough to have a padawan (leads back to point 1).
Objectively wrong. Her character was a very important turning point for Anakin. He failed to raise her, she left the council after they didn't trust in her. That has heavy implications for Anakin's distrust in the council. On top of that, there's no reason for her to NOT exist. She is her own character too, the movies shouldn't dictate her existence. She has her own story too, as much as how she played a part in Anakins.
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>>88860620
>>88860611

He was 9 when he met her, retards.
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>>88860624
Darth Maul is the Boba Fett of the Sith.
He had a cool design, said two lines, then died.
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>>88860667
>>88860658
>>88859860
>Obi Wan having a female quasi love interest just dilutes the whole point of a Anakin's fall
Again, completely wrong. The entire point of Obi-Wan's Arc in TCW was to show him and Anakin in similar situations, and how Obi-Wan (trained under Qui-Gon) made it through such things, compared to Anakin's unstable emotions and attachments. TCW giving Obi-Wan a love interest, and giving him a rival with Maul was some of the best storytelling we could have ever asked for with old Ben.

>Maul came back after being chopped in half and knocked into a seemingly bottomless pit, and came back as a fucking chatterbox to boot (this is where I dropped the show)
Well you fucked up because the show only leaped in quality here. Maul is a "chatterbox" because A) He was driven insane (he talks much less in the following Season) and B) Because he had almost no dialogue in TPM, so of course it seems like he talks more now. And he only never talked much in TPM because he's almost never on screen with someone he has a personal connection too. Only in a quick scene with Sheev does he talk, and you'll find he was very well spoken. They used that as their starting point for how Maul would have to talk, given he is now calling the shots, and in a personal relationship with Savage and Obi-Wan.

TCW was made under oversight of Lucas himself, and incredible care was made to make sure the show fit thematically, visually, and continuity-wise with the movies.

For example, to maintain continuity with Anakin's reaction to Greivous in RotS, they made sure Anakin never sees Greivous face-to-face in the show.

None of your nitpicks break continuity with the movies at all.
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>>88860678
Why does Obi-Wan not seem to recognize R2?
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>>88860673
But that's not a flaw.
Maul isn't supposed to be deep.
For that we have Palpatine manipulating everyone all throughout the film.
People meme on TPM and the PT in general so hard for no reason.
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>>88860712
I'm just boiling down your comment into the shortest possible thing.

Maul is Boba Fett.

And along with that goes all the terrible things about Boba Fett and why anyone that likes either of them and wants fucking books and movies and TV shows based around them should be shot in the head and left in a ditch to rot.
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>>88860711
????
He only says that he bver owned a droid, which he didn't.
Obi keeps things close to the vest, seeing as he lied to Luke and Anakin.

Or- astromechs are all interchangeable and he never saw R2 as any different from R4.
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>>88860711
I have two parts of an answer for this.

First answer is that Obi-Wan never says he didn't recognize R2. He looks confused at the droid, and answers Luke's question/statement by saying "I don't recall owning a droid...", which is completely true.

Second part to the answer, in a recent post-2014 novelization, it makes a note that Obi-Wan was privately nostalgic to see the old droid. That's the LSG's way of saying "shut up, he didn't forget R2."
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>>88860711
Why would anyone recognize a droid they haven't seen in 20 years, when there are literally billions just like it in the galaxy?
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>>88860711
I'm hoping it was some sort of sand dementia, since with the amount of times the plot in TCW revolved around R2's presence it would take mental deficiency for him to have forgotten about Anakin's pet "never wiped his memory" astromech droid.

On the other hand, Obi-Wan did say he'd 'never OWNED a droid before', which technically isn't a lie since he never claimed ownership over any of the astromechs or other droids he interacted with. If taken that he's responding literally to Luke's 'says he belongs to Obi-Wan Kenobi', then it's not a problem with Obi-Wan's dialogue at all.
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>>88860678
>None of your nitpicks break continuity with the movies at all.
>at all
wrong
LIke I said, you can squeeze them in, but it's not organic.

The Dooku fight in ROTS is clearly meant to be round 2 of the AOTC fight, especially considering TCW didn't even exist when Lucas wrote the PT.
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>>88860803
Retroactively changing stuff is a common thing in Star Wars.

Quite literally all three of the Prequels, and Rogue One, are retroactively changing stuff we thought we "knew" in the OT.

TCW did just that, but by adding to the PT.

You can say its "not organic", but that's just how Star Wars is, when the stories being told aren't being released chronologically, taking things you thought you knew, and inventing further context that changes things.
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>>88860592
Anakin was infatuated as a kid, but it wasn't until later that he grasped the consequences of his actions, even if he did everything he could to dodge them.

Voyage of temptation implies that Obi Wan and Satine both were old enough to realise the consequences, and old enough that they could hold the torch for decades later.
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>>88860849
agree to disagree
you're just playing devil's advocate so i'm done
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>>88859877
>>88859801
>>88859752
>>88859719
>responding to copypasa
He posts this at least twice a thread
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>>88860849
>Retroactively changing
it's called retconning.
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>>88860748
Fuck you both characters when given a optirtunity are great characters to explore.

Sorry we do t wanna read about lando and Chewbacca
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>>88860748
Don't cut yourself on that edge
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>>88860857
>We thought we knew Anakin's father was killed by Vader
>later "revealed" in ESB that they're the same person

>We thought Obi-Wan never owned R2
>Now we know he did know R2, although still never owned him, since TPM

>We thought Dooku and Anakin hadn't met since Attack of the Clones
>Now we know Anakin's line refers to their last fight in TCW

It's the same shit. Stuff written after the original "facts" that retroactively changes how we understand it.

>>88860879
Nope. They're similar, but not the same.

Retroactive changing is adding new information or context that adds to something, or changes it WITHOUT removing any factual information.

Retconning is removing faction information completely, replacing it with something else that never existed.

For example;

>Obi-Wan telling Luke his father was "dead, from a certain point of view"
>This is retroactively changing how we "knew" Obi-Wan explaining the fate of Luke's father in ANH

>Changing Obi-Wan's dialogue or removing that scene entirely to get rid of the possible inconsistency
>That would be a retcon, in favor of changing the identity/history of Luke's father
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>>88860857
He's not because he's right.
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>>88861049
Again, he's literally right. But my point wasn't so cold.
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>>88859685
It's perfectly logical when you think about it. Padawans enter adolescence and so unless you chemically castrate them like Alan Turing things like that are bound to happen
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>>88860384
By virtue of his master being Neimoidian? You sound like the EU in its limited scope
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>>88860454
That's assuming they let him choose Plaguus's race. If LSG tells him Plaguies has to be a Rodian now he'll abide by it.

Though honestly I don't see them changing Plaguis's race, if only because people are now so used to the idea of him as a Muun.
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>>88861329
Fuck, I misspelled Plagueis two different ways
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>>88859133
Your idea of redemption seems a little dim considering there's a larger thematic at work outside of just Alderaan.
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>>88861370
Like the countless other innocent people and small children Vader has personally killed.
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>>88861329
Actually, while it's not concrete...

Plaguise is mentioned in Tarkin, but something that was strikingly peculiar to me was that unlike all of the other alien characters in the book, Plaguise's species is not mentioned.

Then in a Celebration interview two years back, Luceno was asked about the LSG's involvement, and if they made him make many changes to his book, and he explained that his book made it through them relatively unchanged, aside from changing some characters species.

So, if I can give my own two cents on that information, I'd say it is absolutely in the realm of possibility that they don't want Plaguise to be a Muun in canon. If they ever show him, I suspect he is going to have a new design that may be a shock to some people.

I think they'll play it safe by having Luceno write whatever book this happens in though, to avoid any "they're ruining/changing his work!" controversy
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>>88861370
Plus a lot of people don't seem to get that redemption isn't the same as absolution, or that the "afterlife" of the Force doesn't work the way heaven and hell do.
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>>88860454
I don't think Lucas ever specified what race Plagueis was. Luceno just asked him "can I make him a Muun" and Lucas said "sure".
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>>88861422
>If they ever show him, I suspect he is going to have a new design that may be a shock to some people.

Not that I'm against Plagueis' species not being a Muun, I'm totally for it. But what could he possibly be turned to that would surprise folks?
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>Rogue One didn't have screen wipes

That's why it felt like things went by so fast. Screen wipes tend to imply a sense of time passing, but RO just sticks to conventional scene transitions and it makes the movie feel so much faster. Though there is of course the pacing itself.
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Tfw you realise George had no interest in a hard canon because he didn't want creative expression hindered by corporate over sight.
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>>88861532
Anything not Muun, and not human, will make people freak.

Fingers crossed for Rodian or Gungan or something freaky like that.

Gungan would make sense too, considering Sheev is from Naboo. Gives him and Plaguise context for Sheev's origin story to be told.
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>>88861493
That's a common issue when peolple regard the Force. The concepts behind it are a mix of religions, so people tend to compare it too closely to Buddhism or Christianity when it's not a 1:1 comparison. People are incredulous about Vader's redemption because they compare it to Christian concepts of final judgement... but oddly forget that the entire basis of Christianity is a get-out-of-jail card in the form of accepting Jesus.
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>>88861564
He retconned his own movies to maintain canon and continuity (Boba's voice)

You don't know what you're talking about m8
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>>88861564
The only things that were canon to George were thing he made
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>>88859689
Except Revan (a LARGE plot point) and his relationship to Malak throws a whole wrench in your little analysis, buddy.

Also Carth, Juhani, Bastila, etc have no real analog in A New Hope, so no.
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>>88861532
He should be a Lurmen
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>>88861564
George was the man
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>>88861604
That's why only TCW and 1-6 were considered canon in 2014, and they built from there.
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>>88861567
Plagueis should be a cat. Like a straight up cat. Not even a talking cat.
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>>88861564
>he didn't want creative expression hindered by corporate over sight.
Good thing the LSG agrees with him then. They've always talking about how they're promoting creativity, and avoid shutting stuff down unless it's absolutely necessary. They help creators fit their stories into the canon, they're part of the creative process, not hard decision makers.

All the creators at Lucasfilm have expressed positive sentiment to how things are now too.

They're getting as much creative expression and control as possible, for the LSG to also maintain the canon, as built from the roots of what Lucas left in 2014.

It's pretty much what we've been dreaming of for decades, and following his positive sentiments to Rogue One and TCW, Lucas seems mostly happy with how it's going too. He's just trying to do what the rest of us are doing; forgetting TFA.
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>>88861567
So make Darth Jar Jar real?
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>>88859860
>Anakin is a different character
Not really, he's just a man in his prime, unaffected by things like a pregnancy or visions of his wife dying. So unlike his anger and stress during ROTS, he's cocky, arrogant, and very sociable, like at the beginning of ROTS.

>the dialogue between Anakin and Dooku in ROTS is a parrallel of their AOTC dialogue, implying that they haven't fought since then.
Your headcanon isn't canon.

>Obi acts suprised at Grevious's arms seperating, when he's seen it plenty of times in TCW
He repeatedly fought Grevious with two arms for most of their fights, of course he'd be surprised by Grevious immediately going to 4. It makes things a lot harder, especially by himself.

>Dooku is even more simplistically evil in the show than in the films
That doesn't mean it doesn't gel with the movies.

>Ahsoka just doesn't fit. It's not a question whether she CAN be sqeezed in there, it's that her whole character is completely pointless because ROTS makes no mention of her, and really does not paint Anakin as mature enough to have a padawan (leads back to point 1).
She fits perfectly well, explains Anakin's reaction to the council not making him a Master, and explains why he trusts the Code more than the council off the bat in ROTS.

>Obi Wan having a female quasi love interest just dilutes the whole point of a Anakin's fall
No, it only proved Obi-Wan had the strength Anakin didn't, and why Anakin was NOT ready to be a master like Obi-Wan was. It doesn't dilute anything, and once again doesn't mean it doesn't gel with the prequels.

>Maul came back after being chopped in half and knocked into a seemingly bottomless pit, and came back as a fucking chatterbox to boot (this is where I dropped the show)
Then I can say fuck you, you didn't watch the show to figure out more and are speaking out of your ass. Maul never WASN'T a catterbox, he just got way too few scenes in TPM.

Good day.
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>>88861605
I suppose you could argue on the same basis for TFA. Kylo is not like Vader, Rey is not like Luke beyond the surface level, Finn has no ANH analogue, the Starkiller isn't the focus of the primary plot, Luke doesn't play Obi-Wan's role and so on and so forth. Doesn't stop people from whining about rehashes.

It's all bullshit anyway. KoTOR, TFA, TPM all play with the same concepts and ideas, but come to different conclusions. That's all that matters. Nothing's new under the sun anyway.
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>>88861542
There's not meant to be a sense of time going by. At most everything happens in a couple days in RO.
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>>88860658
>>88860667
>>88860678

You are a good man sir
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>>88861605
ffs stop responding to copypasta he's been doing this for two weeks now
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lads?
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>>88862016
Sheev wins, always.
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>>88862016
Well, Sheev can spin.
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>>88862016
Tarkin on the Death Star.
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>>88862067
But what if Obi Wan is piloting X-wing?
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>>88862089
He's a terrible pilot.
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>>88862089
there is no high ground in space.
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>>88862108
But he will use THE FORCE
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>>88862124
Wrong
He is flying above the Death Star so he have high ground(space)
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>>88862124
All ground is high ground in space
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>>88862127
Luke had two things:

1. Good piloting genes
2. The Force

Obi-Wan has one, you need two to beat the Death Star.
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>Writers said that Sabine will become more important
>Get a jetpack just to lose it at the end of the episode
>Got a dark saber that she will most likely never use
>Only thing note worthy is the fact that she broke Wedge out of the Imperial Academy
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>>88862166
They mention an art installation of painted imperial helmets in Aftermath but cut off the artist's name. You know that's going to be her
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>>88862059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBlhgAkJBos
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>>88861567
>Gungan would make sense too, considering Sheev is from Naboo. Gives him and Plaguise context for Sheev's origin story to be told.

I can see how you'd think that in terms of the context between he and Sidious. But then that raises the question of why a Gungan would be a Sith Lord? Until the Trade Federation's invasion, my impression was that the Gungans kept to themselves and didn't bother with anything that wasn't on Naboo. Of all the species in the Star Wars galaxy for Plagueis to be part of, Gungans are the ones that I'd think would be the least likely. A Rodian? Sure, they're everywhere. Just like Humans and Twi'leks.
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>>88859860
>Obi acts suprised at Grevious's arms seperating, when he's seen it plenty of times in TCW
...No he doesn't?
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I miss it. So many cool concepts now lost forever.

Hopefully this gets some sort of book adaptation, or even just a chapter of a source book to retain the information from it.
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>>88862309
I wish I got to play it
I got myself a smartphone after it was discontinued
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>>88849535
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>>88862309
What is this?
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>>88862300
Its weird, im not the same anon who said he looked surprised but i remembered too that he was in this scene
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>>88862360
canon mobile game that got canceled.
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>>88862360
Canon smartphone game that is now offline.

As opposed to the other smartphone games, this one actually had a cohesive story, and a pretty interesting one too.
It was also the first piece of canon to travel beyond Episode 6, surprisingly. Released even before the "Before the Awakening" event started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z-JuKJZYRo
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>>88862360
Mobile Diablo-style RPG set after RotJ.

Was shut down presumably because it was too expensive to maintain.

Was Canon, and was slowly adding bits of lore and information, but alas

The design work was very impressive, and its a damn shame such effort wasn't put into a proper RPG. They were doomed the moment they were restricted to mobile devices. Now aside from walkthroughs on Youtube, there's nowhere to really see this canon story, so fingers crossed for a comic or novel or something.

Alexander Freed (Twilight Company, RO Novelisation) was a writer for the game, so with any luck, he can write a book for Uprising
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Anyone know if Dawn of the Jedi is still canon?
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>>88862553
Are you trying to start a meme or something? I feel like I've seen this asked a dozen times now, and the answer is still no.
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Exactly he made it ok to pick and choose what YOU wanted in your head canon. But now people want "facts" about fantasies so they can win arguments on message boards.
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>>88862166
>Seasons not even close to completion
You guys have zero patience. I'm surprised you can function in life.
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>>88862553
Nope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_canon

And learn 2 google.
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>>88862592
You could always, and still can, pick what you want in your headcanon.
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>>88862592
Stop. That is never what Lucas believed nor intended.

Having shitty headcanon is never going to be viewed as acceptable over what is actually canon. You don't get to pick and choose.

You can enjoy non-canon stuff, but you can't warp your own canon and expect people to play along.
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>>88862642
This.

I never had a problem with people having their own headcanon, but when they try to push it as more official or noteworthy than the ACTUAL canon, it is cringy and just fucking dumb.

I see people on /tv/ try to say things like "REMINDER THAT ROGUE ONE ISN'T CANON" and shit like that. Keep it to yourself. Its hilarious especially to ask them "according to who?" because they never have a good answer
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What ever happened to Barriss Offee? Obviously she died. She had to have died, but was there every any official confirmation of her demise?
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>>88859133
>Why did Obi-Wan kill himself?

Obi Wan could never realistically have killed vader. Age aside Vader's speed handicap was more than made up for by his defense advantage. If you watch empire Luke actually manages to strike him dead on with his saber a couple of times and it just bounces off.

Obi Wan MAY have been able to move like he did in phantom menace on a good day, but Vader could have just tried to restrain him with the force and essentially cancel it out.
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>>88862890
>Vader's speed handicap was more than made up for by his defense advantage.

But Vader doesn't have a speed handicap. He actually has no physical handicaps with his prosthesis. New canon stuff has been advertising for a while that he still has all the speed and agility he had before his prosthesis.
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>>88862890
>Age aside
isn't Obi-wan like, twelve years older than Anakin?

Did Obi-Wan sleep on his face and smoke all the time?
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>>88859689

KOTOR 1's usually praised by people who like it's plot but probably never played the Dark Forces games. It's fondly remembered since it was super accessible at the time as one of the first original games that had the ease and accessibility consoles of that gen provided.

It had just enough different to be visibly different while largely being similar(Jedi wear different colors and styles, ect. ect.), and tying into a bunch of stuff that was more weirdly different but not widely known.

KOTOR 2 is remembered for actually toying with the narrative, though it's also pretty clearly derivative(moreso since it changes the original designs to match the OT even more).
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>>88862984
That's one of the reasons his scene in Rogue One was so great. You kind of expect him to be slow and cumbersome, but he's very agile.
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>>88863048
>>88862984
I was pleasantly surprised Vader was moving like fluid deflecting those shots in R1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSxRZvYauG0
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>>88862837
He confirmed that Barriss was never killed off in TCW, meaning If Filoni wants to bring her back he can.

Just like he's eventually going to do with Ahsoka.
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>>88863112
I couldn't imagine sheev letting her rot in prison after the jedi purge
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>>88863101
That kills me every time
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>>88859689
You post this exact fucking post word for word every day. Fuck off.
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>>88862441
he gets put off when grievous does the spinny thing

I dunno if he ever saw that in TCW
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>>88860658
Well in addition to your "powers doubling" making more sense after 4 years rather than just a week or whatever, there's also this:

"This time, we'll take him together."
"I was about to say that."
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>>88863101
>Seeing all those classic BFII Rebel Names like Dax Olesa and Evan Nordan

I get nostalgia trips over the weirdest shit, I swear.
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>>88863509
>Manny Bothans
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>>88863509
Dax Olessa was my Commander username

him and Scur Jal'daan are the only BF2 names I remember
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>>88863302
This, or the Mandela Effect
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>>88863603
Yeah, but who could forget the classic
>Unit 416
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http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/01/rogue-one-editors-reveal-which-scenes-were-added-to-the-movie-after-the-reshoots.html

Some interesting information on why some scenes in Rogue One just feel like they were pasted inbetween some stuff
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>>88862984
He also uses the force for more agility in the Lords of the Sith book.
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>>88862984
he's stronger with the robot limbs, right?
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>>88862984
>>88862992

Yeah, but you forget speed is Obi-Wan's thing. He uses force speed in Phantom Menace and is usually portrayed as being quick on his feet outside ANH. Which is what age refers to. Marvel made it clear Obi Wan was getting old and not fighting as well as he used to in the clone wars. He could still outfight mortal fighters many times his numbers, but even before he went all gray he was getting more aches and pains.

If Obi Wan slowed down then Vader, with all his damage, probably did too, but less due to age and more due to having one big burn across his body. But again, Vader's adapted to have a slower, heavier style by the time of ANH. He's more than compensated and kept his skills fresh while Obi Wan has had more chance to get rusty, even before you get to the equipment difference of Vader being able to laugh off direct saber blows.
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>>88862984
Why couldn't he kill the Emperor, then? That's stupid.
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>>88864013
You do not know the power of the dark side...
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>>88863899

In fact, I'd go so far as to say Anakin is probably the least agile of the jedi even during the Clone Wars. Obi Wan and Luke can move so fast they blur, and Yoda has his CGI flipping. Anakin charges in a lot but he never really does anything that dramatic even in his prime.

>>88863707

Lords of the Sith is more a good example of Vader pushed to his maximum limits. He does some absolute crazy shit he never pulls everywhere else but it's clearly just him going all out. He flips around when pressed and moves faster than usual, but even that is clearly a distant second to Palpatine's crazy flips reminiscent of revenge of the Sith, where we see his maximum is even more dramatic.
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>>88862309
>>88862457
>>88862485
Longtime lurker of /swco/ and noticed something i can help you with. I have experience developing and modifying APKs (android) files ranging from always online to offline play as an example. I noticed one of you stated it was a "diablo-like RPG" and it peaked my interest. If i go through the trouble to modify it, and it successfully runs would you play it?
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>>88864030
Anakin is outright more powerful than the Emperor, though. Sheev points it out, and Lucas said it as well. If he's just as, or more powerful, in the suit than before, she should wipe the floor with Sheev.
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>>88859689
THIS IS FUCKING PASTA

THIS IS FUCKING PASTA

THIS IS FUCKING PASTA

>>88859719
>>88859752
>>88859801
>>88861605
>>88863045

STOP RESPONDING TO IT
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>>88863899
>Yeah, but you forget speed is Obi-Wan's thing.

It USED to be. Remember, Obi-wan's skills wit the Force went to hell after 19 years of monotonous filled exile. Early season 2 Ezra probably could've beaten Obi-wan.
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>>88864013
Spoiler alert he did
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>>88864013
>Why couldn't he kill the Emperor, then?

Well, technically he did. But excluding that, Vader never attempted because Sidious has always been much more powerful than he. If Vader had continued to develop for another ten or fifteen years instead of dying, he'd probably be at least as powerful as Sidious, or maybe even a bit stronger.
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>>88864068
I would absolutely. Especially if you could somehow make it easier to farm powerups and collectables to make the game move a bit faster. Idk how that stuff works
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>>88864074\
>Obi-Wan once thought as you do.
>You don't know the power of the dark side.
>I must obey my master.
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>>88864068
I would
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>>88864068
Yes, I don't have a smartphone anyways and would love to play it on my emulator.
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>>88862300
>You fool! I've been trained in your jedi arts, by Count Dooku!

>Why are you even telling me that?
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>>88862016
Obi.

Nobody beats the high ground master and good friend
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>>88859785
I take it the answer is no
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>>88864104
>Remember, Obi-wan's skills wit the Force went to hell after 19 years of monotonous filled exile
While he definitely let it atrophy for a while, Luke telling Jabba's tax collectors to fuck off inspired him to act like a Jedi again.
Given that he then transcended death, he's clearly pretty damn good with it.
If anything, Old Obi Wan is probably top of his game in terms of the force, just not good enough to easily overpower Vader and then escape before the Stromtroopers blew up the Falcon.
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>>88864551
>My powers have doubled since the last time met Dooku.
>What, you mean last week?
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>>88864104
>Early season 2 Ezra probably could've beaten Obi-wan.
Alright now you're fucking with us.
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>>88864351
>>88864451
>>88864187
Thats great to hear, and yes you can modify the target progression rates/exp. Yields but its a bit more intricate than to say modifying currency or unlocking items.
I will begin modifying it later in the week and if there is any success hopefully have it uploaded to zippy by friday night.

Be sure to have an apk capable on unpacking the file like Unrar/winzip etc.

I will make sure to remove/alter/replace the license validation for those whos phones are not rooted will have no issues once they launch it
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just watched the cinemasins for TFA. God, I forgot how shitty of a movie that was. character development through le quips

and jesus i fucking hate snoke
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>>88864769
I always thought Obi let himself die, both so he could continue mentoring Luke via ghost, and also because, well... there really wasn't any way he could just escape from Vader at that point. Obi was pretty much distracting Vader, keeping him away from the others. Vader would have absolutely killed Han, Chewie, and Luke, or interrogated the hell out of them.
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>>88864834
Sorry to be ignorant but what exactly is it that you are doing?

I assumed at first you just meant you are running a custom server to host the game on, but it now seems like you are doing something else?
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>>88864104
Consider these points.
>Maul is hunting Obi Wan
>Mail knows which planet he's on, and if he can't track him down, Luke will act like a beacon to him
>Obi Wan will utterly slap the shit out of anyone who threatens Luke
>Vader and Sheev are the only other two people in the galaxy who would take him, unless Ezra and Kanan team up and get exceptionally lucky
>Obi Wan is still alive come episode 4

All that adds up to imply Obi Wan's performance in ep 4 was due to technical limitations and the early intent for the sabers to be heavy.
Though I'm personally hoping for Obi Wan to just slap him around with the force, and only kill him because he leaves him no other choice.
Or better yet, have Uncle Owen hear the commotion, and kill him when Obi Wan is trying to be merciful
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>>88864834
I will be modifying STAR WARS Uprising 3.0.1 (i believe thats the latest), and i guess since it is a discontinued game do you guys want me to attempt to modify the experience rate and currency drop amount,considering they're not individually specific amounts for each place found, i dont have time for that lol. And by how much?
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>>88864956
I interpreted it that Obi Wan might have been able to win, but he couldn't risk everyone waiting for him and getting captured, and even if he won it would take too long, so he took the relatively safe option.
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>>88864068
>I noticed one of you stated it was a "diablo-like RPG" and it peaked my interest. If i go through the trouble to modify it, and it successfully runs would you play it?

Sounds interesting. Never played it. If I can use it on my desktop I would be interested.
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>>88865206
That's true, too. They were RIGHT near the Falcon where they could have slipped into the Hangar, if not for Luke reacting to Obi's death with that "NOO!"
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>>88864769
>Luke telling Jabba's tax collectors to fuck off inspired him to act like a Jedi again.

I want to say that remains to be seen, but I haven't really picked up the main Star Wars comic. My only knowledge of Kenobi's time on Tatooine was when Krrsantan tried to catch him using Owen as bait. He barely made it out of that and was clearly struggling to use the Force.

> just not good enough to easily overpower Vader and then escape before the Stromtroopers blew up the Falcon.

Even if he had kept himself in top form all those years, I still think Vader would've made short work of him like he did on the Death Star.

>>88864784
>Alright now you're fucking with us.

Based on how he was able to get himself out of the situation against Krrsantan, no I'm not. If Obi-wan didn't polish his skills again after that then yes, I think even Ezra could've beaten him.

>>88864956
>I always thought Obi let himself die
I don't think Obi-wan died at all. To my eyes, he simply shed his corporeal existence before Vader's blade made contact. Thus why his clothes and Lightsaber fall to the ground.
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>>88864068
>peaked my interest
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>>88862837
Strangled in her cell by some of Palpatine's goons. She was too close to the truth and had to be silenced permanently.
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>>88865272
>Based on how he was able to get himself out of the situation against Krrsantan, no I'm not. If Obi-wan didn't polish his skills again after that then yes, I think even Ezra could've beaten him.
Obi-Wan, even if he's a bit rusty, is still a Jedi fucking Master who fought in a rather intense war and went toe to toe (and actually did beat, even if it was a bit of trickery) with Anakin. Ezra isn't even really equivalent to a Padawan considering how long he's been training, got annihilated by Vader and has really only trained against Kanan (who was a padawan and only really knighted symbolically) and Stormtroopers.

Obi-Wan would beat him.
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autistic threadly reminder that anyone that dislikes the prequels is a reddit memelord who has no desire for worldbuilding and doesn't actually like star wars beyond the shitty merch you can show off on /r/starwars like some cookie cutter han solo painting
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>>88865112
Just a little bit more to make it fun, since it's not exactly an online game.

>>88864972
He's basically modifying the game to pass the online check and make it more suitable to be played as just a single player experience, presumably.
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>>88864972
No dedicated server sorry.
You'll be downloading it all in bulk since you wont have a server to download from periodically for separate levels if thats how the game is built.
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>>88865272
>I still think Vader would've made short work of him like he did on the Death Star.
They were fighting as equals up until the point he sacrificed himself, and Obi Wan was smiling when he did. He would have looked a lot more resigned if it was just him getting it over quickly.

While it certainly could have been because he thought he couldn't take Vader, which would beg the question why he clearly knew he was there and chose to fight him, it's also likely that he knew whatever outcome happened wouldn't happen quickly, and attracting attention to the hangar would get everyone else killed.

>Even if he had kept himself in top form all those years,
It's worth noting that Obi Wan would have been meditating on the force, while Vader was generally fucking things up and running business, and it's a consistent thing that a stronger connection with the force trumps all.
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>>88865372
So basically its just downloading everything in the game? I think I get it.

Like the other anon asked, are you going to adjust the level up system? If so make things like 4 times easier to get. The game I feel like will be way more of a grind singleplayer only
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>>88865077
>All that adds up to imply Obi Wan's performance in ep 4 was due to technical limitations and the early intent for the sabers to be heavy.

I like to see the limitations of the time as in universe as Obi-wan being rusty, Vader (opponent depending) either trying to feel the situation out or not taking it seriously, and Luke not having access to proper guidance and or sophisticated manuals.

>Though I'm personally hoping for Obi Wan to just slap him around with the force, and only kill him because he leaves him no other choice.

Jedi don't do that. That's why they carry lightsabers. And I don't think Maul will even Make it to Tatooine. Considering Obi-wan and Luke were never bothered by forces beyond Tatooine, and Filoni explicitly stating multiple times that he doesn't want the show to touch Tatooine before Luke and Obi-wan leave, the race to find Obi-wan in Rebels will have to end with neither side finding him. So it's probably going to be that Maul gets killed and takes Kenobi's location to the grave.


That actually might be the excuse Dave's been looking for to have Maul fight Vader. How Vader would find out that Maul knows where Kenobi is though is beyond me though.
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>>88865454
He's dead.
His EU role has been replaced by Maul.
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>>88865454
>When will they bring back best boy?

Jaybo? No idea.
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>>88865454
Many await that 'glorious' day, to be sure.

Fuck you, edgelord, and your not-Mandalorian idol too
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>>88865534
I wonder what happened to him. I like to think after he was able to get offworld he wound up on Nar Shaddaa being assplowed by Nikto Morgukai for spice.
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>>88864930
>watching cinemasins
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>>88865415
>They were fighting as equals up until the point he sacrificed himself

I never really saw it that way.
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>>88865563
>liking boba makes me an edge lord

What the fuck.
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>>88865369
Ill try my best to make it less grindy most definitely. But first things first is to get it to run offline, which shouldnt be much trouble.
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>>88865595
i know, i know. Going to be cringing at my recommended videos for a week.
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>>88865454
I can't think how they'll bring Gryph back without a major contrivance, m8.
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>>88865619
>Watching recommended videos
>+1 sin *ting*
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>>88865603
Just fucking with you because some of your homies are some salty motherfuckers
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>>88865619
Don't worry, anon.
I made the same mistake when I watched their The Clone Wars movie video.
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>>88865593

Probably serving time at an Imperial penitentiary for possession of a shit ton of battle droids without the proper credentials after the Empire occupied Iego.
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>>88865653
>>88865619
>>88865595
I unironically enjoy Cinemasins.
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>>88865638
Be a hell of a lifespan for his species.
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>>88865468
>Jedi don't do that. That's why they carry lightsabers.
There's nothing stopping him from doing it, though.
Naturally he wouldn't go full Sheev and choke/lightning him, but it would be fitting for him to refuse to fight by simply rebuffing him with telekinesis whenever he tried to attack, and only using his saber to defend.
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>>88864930
>>88865595

Watch cinimaWINS instead

https://youtu.be/_KSbwAJT8RE
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>>88865648
We have reason george and pablo are doing us dirty
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>>88865717
I thought Boba liked it dirty.
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>>88865717
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>>88865686
>There's nothing stopping him from doing it, though.

Other than their philosophy of working in harmony with the force. Using it for knowledge and defense, not to attack.

It's the whole reason why they carry weapons at all. To use the force to inflict harm on another is to act on the Dark Side.
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>>88865758
How would anyone know?
He only had three lines and one of them was " AAAAHHGH!" as he died.
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>>88865818
But they clearly knock people around with the force repeatedly during TCW and the Prequels.

They don't use it to kill, which is the difference.
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>this poster is a troll job made by a resistance pilot
>instead it actually got people to join the resistance
>and it's canon
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>>88865717
The children are right to laugh at you for that statement.

>>88865828
He had more than three lines, and one of them was clearly a euphemism.

>Put Captain Solo in the cargo hold

Mmmmph, so dirty. Filthy, even.
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>>88865695
Some of his points about ROTS and TFA are just as stupid.
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>>88865472
What was his EU role?
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>>88865953
To show up at anything even remotely important and play a major role in it.
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>>88865978
That would explain why there are fans of him when in the OT he speak two times and in the PT and TCW he is a problematic child
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>>88866032
Literally everything made of Boba Fett, and the Mandalorians as a whole, was from him having a cool looking helmet.

Mando and Boba fags are the most retarded fans of anything.
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>>88866054
Admittedly, as cults go they've got a hell of one. He's as iconic as the starship Enterprise when it comes to art culture, renditions, and tributes. I doubt that was ever intentional, but it sure blew up into something way bigger than anyone imagined.
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>>88866032
D-did someine say 'problematic child'?
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>>88866442
Why would you care? You don't live long enough to do anything about it.
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>>88866442
Fuck off, shitposter
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>>88866470
That webm stil gets me.
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>>88865949
Like?

Also some of them are just pure oppinion
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>>88866660
People are always complaining about Star Wars having no alien leads. But that's the thing, we did get one in TFA!
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>>88866054
I dont git this argument from mouse shills

So what if he sucked in the movies he was cool in every thing else and obviously thats what were fans of
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>>88866723
>we're fans of fanfiction

that's great and all, but you all decided that the shit was canon
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>>88866752
It was once you idiot
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>>88866775
And now those days are gone and done.
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>>88866809
That dosnet invalidate why people like him and want disney to stop neglecting him
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>>88866775
No it wasn't.
Lucas just never outright stated it.
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>>88866677
>why is he wearing a mask and distorting his voice, it's just to draw parallels to darth vader!
It is, it is to draw parallels to Darth Vader.

Just because he idolizes Vader doesn't make it less stupid.

>gives a win to Poe's quip

>a sneeze and you'll miss it detail
>A FUCKING AT-AT IS A SNEEZE AND YOU'LL MISS IT DETAIL

>Rey must be a Mary Sue right?
>ignores the criticism mostly reflecting her late movie powers

>a win to the millennium falcon somehow being on fucking jakku

>also would flying really be that hard?
Yes, yes it would. Luke actually flew shit before leaving the planet.

>wins "who is Kylo actually talking to" for some fucking reason and the shoehorned darth vader mask

>wins the planet explosions

>wins stormtrooper aim

>wins resistance

>wins the fucking force persuasion scene because "muh obi wan father theory"

>wins the han line about the starkiller base being bigger and says he btfo all the complainers with that line

>wins rey getting the lightsaber

>wins the rey/kylo lightsaber duel

>rey isn't a mary sue because her upbringing...somehow

>unironically uses the word whines when describing anakin and luke

>sad jj isn't returning

>The Force Awakens didn't start getting badmouthed until it had broken all the records. Usually, I suggest that maybe the critics were wrong with their negativity. The. Critics. Are. Wrong. J.J. Abrams brought Star Wars back to its glory days.

That about covers it.
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I'm going to watch clone wars soon. Can some one post that recommended episode chart?
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>>88866470
Would Season 3 Ezra have killed her?
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>>88867119
>>wins the fucking force persuasion scene because "muh obi wan father theory"


wh...what the fuck? That's literally impossible. She younger than Kylo. The only way this could happen is of obi-wan banged some chick as a force ghost
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>>88867121
Just watch it all and skip arcs that you personally don;t like. Not what other people tell you not to like.

>>88867132
Had she been more of a threat to the team, maybe. Just as she was in season 2, I doubt it.
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>>88866752
>bland mcedgy white guy with shaved head
>beats Vader almost to death
>gives Sheev a good beating before dying
>his family crest becomes the official symbol of the rebellion
>has Darth Vader captured like a bitch and runs off into the sunset with his barbie doll of a girlfriend
>we don't have to pretend any of this shit is canon anymore

Feels good desu.
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>>88866470
She did enough.
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>>88866718
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>>88867188
Yep, it's a dumb theory.

Also forgot to reply to one of the lines.

>The Force Awakens didn't start getting badmouthed until it had broken all the records. Usually, I suggest that maybe the critics were wrong with their negativity. The. Critics. Are. Wrong. J.J. Abrams brought Star Wars back to its glory days.

What is with TFA fans and thinking the critics were against them and they're in the minority? The critics loved the film, most fans loved the film. It's a victim complex.
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>>88867132
No but since season 3 Ezra has more guts he might have been on top for once.
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>>88867232
Sure, she gave him some extra issues by adding to his nightmares. He'd seen people shot, sure. He'd seen people blown up, but no gory mess raining down. He's even seen Jedi beef jerky (thanks, Luminara!).

This was the first time he saw a person cut in half right in front of his eyes.
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http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/01/woody-harrelson-in-early-talks-to-play-han-solos-mentor-in-the-second-star-wars-spinoff-movie.html
>Sources tell Variety that, while talks are still in the early stages, Harrelson is the top choice to play Han Solo’s mentor in the upcoming “Star Wars” spinoff starring Alden Ehrenreich.

Why?
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>>88866718
Imagine being Kylo Ren in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Rey, you fuckin' strong, all powerful with your tight body and horrific xenomorph monster face. I would totally want to train you, both on Snoke's orders and by myself." when all he really wants to do is torture another Pilot in his interrogation room. Like seriously imagine having to be Kylo and not only stand next to that chair while Rey gurns her teeth in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her vampiric fangs, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that grimace. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on base tells her she's GOT IT and DAMN, REY HAS POWERS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been killing nothing but a healthy diet of force sensitives and jedi and later alleged family members for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of Coruscant. You've never even seen anything this fucking weak before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled forehead as she sucks it in to resist suggestively at you, smugly assured that you can't break in due to her "mysterious (for that is what she calls herself)" power, the power she worked so little for with the plot in the previous months. And then Snoke calls for another try, and you know you could kill every single person in the star system before the First Order could put you down, but you stand there and endure, because you're Kylo fucking Ren. You're not going to lose your future redemption arc over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>88867369
kek
This is copy pasta worthy if you just wrote up all of this
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>>88867369
People need to stop bullying Rey.
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>>88867363
"Why" to the actor or the possible role?
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>>88867361
Well it was only fair after she had split him in half a few dozen times with her massive dick.
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>>88867363
This character should have been Hondo.
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>>88867432

Why she is the very definition of a Mary Sue
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>>88867462
Both
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>>88867486
>Hondo being responsible for Han Solo
Sounds too forced

>>88867509
Stop
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>>88867509
The very definition of a cute, you mean.

At least in the movie.
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>>88867472
Unfortunately canon mocks you. The only thing they ever caught was a baby, and she couldn't even manage to hang on to that one. Sad.
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>>88867525
Not that guy, and we haven't seen enough of her to call her a full mary sue, but some of her scenes were bullshit.
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>>88867548
She's cuter with her hair down.
They must have been crazy to think a person with a forehead as large as Daisy's, would look good with her hair up in a bun.
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>>88867231
Cause rebels is soooo much better then a cool over the top video game
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>>88867634
When it comes to being canon, yes.
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>>88867634
they're both two sides of the same cringe coin
>god damn that's edgy
vs
>saturday morning disney cartoon
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>>88867548

No I mean a Mary Sue and the worst one I've ever seen in a movie
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>>88865468
>I like to see the limitations of the time as in universe as Obi-wan being rusty, Vader (opponent depending) either trying to feel the situation out or not taking it seriously, and Luke not having access to proper guidance and or sophisticated manuals.
I'm on the opposite side here, I feel it's really lazy when they explain the lesser technical aspects of the older movies as "lol they just sucked at that point in time", instead of finding more creative ways, particularly when it's clear the older movies didn't really intend to show lesser fighters back then. At least most of the time.

Which reminds me, I love how the Vader vs Ahsoka duel was pretty much OT vs prequel lightsaber styles, with both of them ending up perfectly evenly matched.
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>>88867121
Ignore all guides
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>>88867634
Inquisitors finding out that spinning is a good trick is stupid, yes, but at least they're not making Darth fucking Vader their personal bitch
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>>88867583
All I know is we've seen this argument enough to know that people will never agree one way or the other with her. Like the eternal debate on whether Kylo Ren is super awesome or a punk bitch.

Personally, I find Poe a WAY worse Mary Sue with impossible flying skills for a normie, able to resist all torture until a powerful Force User had to rip the information directly from his head (apparently Kylo had to use more Force on Poe's will since it seemed a lot more painful to him than to her), and only got shot down for story reasons and to set up his dramatic super awesome return. Then he solos the damn Starkiller by first doing a trench run and then flying inside it spamming torps, bulls-eyeing First order womp reactors with each shot. Dude is insane, but he's likable and fun so he apparently gets a pass.
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>>88867741
That one is always odd given George's insistence that Darth Vader always maintain his threat level and never be diminished on-screen. I guess this gets a pass because it was an insanely stupid multi-level boss fight that took fucking forever.
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>>88867634
>Cause rebels is soooo much better then a cool over the top video game

Correct.
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>>88867780
I think at that point he'd stopped caring, since IIRC that would have been around the time he was sorting the Disney deal out.
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>>88867780
>Darth Vader always maintain his threat level and never be diminished on-screen
Until the protagonist kicked his ass, I'm assuming, George?
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>>88867716
Alice is clearly worse. And maybe Modern Ethan Hunt.
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>>88867719
Poor Luke gets hit by this a lot.
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>>88867812
Luke clearly gets a pass, especially since Vader starts to lose his edge (along with most of his edgy) when he starts feeling conflict over his son.
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>>88867828
>Alice
So super awesome she took over a movie franchise for a video game she doesn't even exist in and even after they take away her super powers she still has super powers. That's like a whole Next Level of Mary Sue.
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>>88867794
>vader wank automatically makes it good

Ffs
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>>88867719
>I'm on the opposite side here, I feel it's really lazy when they explain the lesser technical aspects of the older movies as "lol they just sucked at that point in time", instead of finding more creative ways, particularly when it's clear the older movies didn't really intend to show lesser fighters back then. At least most of the time.

I dunno, I see it as perfectly justifiable in Luke's case. The guy had no formal tutelage beyond Obi-wan and Yoda, the former of which was for maybe a couple days and the latter was for about a few weeks (In Dagobah Time). Beyond that, from ANH to RoTJ, he was mostly trying to learn shit by himself. Luke is the in universe equivalent to a HEMA practitioner. Trying to study what is basically almost a dead martial art form from what scarce manuals he can get because the real masters of said arts are either all dead, hiding (Yoda) or are his opponents (Vader). And now, because of by the end of RoTJ, there literally IS no one left who mastered it because the last of it died with Vader.

And this is something I identify with in regards to Luke because I'm a novice swordsman myself and I have very little access to helpful materials and no access to any instructor.

> I love how the Vader vs Ahsoka duel was pretty much OT vs prequel lightsaber styles

I can sort of see this, but Vader's style really lacked the sophistication he had in TESB. His strikes were too broad. He looked like he was going to tip over at any second. All strength and no finesse.
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>>88867741
Only cause vader trained him in thebfirst place
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>>88867984
>he hasn't seen Rogue One yet
Don't worry, Vader doesn't do anything at all. Nothing at all. You're safe, go see it. You'll enjoy it.
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>>88867984
No, the Vader stuff is just one reason the show is good.
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>>88868022
Rouge one has shit going for it besides vader wank
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>>88868030
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING VENATOR?
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>>88868040
>rouge
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>>88868062
Yeah. Tarkin has excellent taste in decorations.
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>>88868062
Yep
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>>88867812
>>88867923
It's OG Mary Sue tier. The only way she could be more a Mary Sue is if Milla was the one writing the series instead of her husband.
>Jill doesn't do much all movie
>Least she could do is light a match
>She goofs
>Alice smugly looks at Jill then does her job for her
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>>88868040
>Rouge
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>the unique Tank Trooper design was a late addition to the movie after George Lucas visited during pre-production and pointed it out

And this is why JJ's game is so weak. He just didn't have an eye for when to make things unique and not just hug as closely as possible to the OT.
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>>88867719
I kind of agree, mostly because I think it feeds into the Story Group's worst habit of over-explaining things or offering explanations which just don't seem to add up. The Obi-Wan/Vader duel in ANH was depicted as is primarily due to the tech limitations at the time, as a member of the audience I can accept that and suspend my disbelief that Vader was literally incapable of performing a backflip because it was not depicted in that film. I feel like discussions about canon and film depiction lose sight of that in the pursuit of diegetic/in-universe explanations.

>>88868013
I can appreciate something like Obi-Wan being old as a retcon, but again I feel like it's an unnecessary explanation owing more to Alec Guinness not being a fencer than the characters being a certain way. On the other hand, your interpretation of Luke's own experience as a fighter is compelling: it makes sense in-universe despite not really being completely relevant towards depicting his prowess (IIRC he does alright in ROTJ but beats Vader after only partaking of the dark side).
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>>88868211
Have a link
http://people.com/movies/virtual-reality-exclusive-go-behind-the-scenes-of-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story/

I love how they used a real tank for that scene.
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>>88868181
>reading article about Resident Evil's film franchise
>Romero in-line to direct first RE movie
>Plays the first game (with help) as preparation
>Would have tried to keep closer to the vidya plot of RE1
>Would have referred to different floors of the mansion as "Levels"
>Article author still has a clear bias for PWS Anderson films

I could never gauge why the author favored Anderson's approach over Romero's, specifically because it diverged from the game's plot. It's not simply that I disagree with the author, but more that I think they weren't operating on the assumption that the film should be an adaptation of the game's plot.

And it would have had a scene where Wesker smashed a gameboy-shaped communicator in frustration. Possibly would have also had the "Jill Sandwich" moment.
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>>88868218
> as a member of the audience I can accept that and suspend my disbelief that Vader was literally incapable of performing a backflip because it was not depicted in that film.

Had new materials shown that he actually is capable of doing a backflip, I'd agree with this. But I can't.
>IIRC he does alright in ROTJ but beats Vader after only partaking of the dark side

Yet that was mostly due to Vader's conflicting feelings. Even with Luke's Dark Side tapping, Vader would've had no difficulty with him had he had his shit straight. Luke may go on to/has become a good swordsman, but because of all the masters of the art are all gone, he'll probably never be as good as a lot of Jedi were at the height of the Clone War.
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>>88868013
The feels are strong in this image
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>>88868181
I don't mind Milla Jovovich too much, I still like Fifth Element for being fun (it'll be interesting to see how much of this translates to Valerian) and at least Leeloo has her language barrier. Otherwise from the RE films to crap like Ultraviolet she's just playing the same damn character over and over again. Even worse when it's the same damn character in movies like Underworld. It's just sexy lady who never runs out of ammo and always scores critical hits when everyone else around her suffers from having to deal with more realism.

But Rey doesn't do any of this. I don't get the same feelings of over-the-topness I get with the others. Oh don't get me wrong, she is woefully suffering from lack of proper development. She at least gets saved as often as she saves, though not everyone recognizes that. She beats Kylo Ren using the Force, okay, but Finn was already wounded, maybe dead, and she couldn't save him or herself from the exploding planet. Fortunately Chewie showed up and saved them both.
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>>88868211
That helmet is just so damn sexy
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>>88859689
Is this the latest forced copy pasta meme?
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>>88868526
I actually like it so much more than the shore trooper and was sad we didn't see more show up on Scarif. If they were a late addition I guess that explains (probably) why.

I hope we get a Rebels version soon, much as I do like the AT-DP drivers. Oh, and they DID show up in the Han comic, so that was cool.
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>>88862984
Nu-canon Vader not having any weaknesses and still being fast and powerful goes against everything Lucas said about him.
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>>88868813
Like what?
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>>88867741
I always figured he got caught on purpose. If you go Dark Side you find out another clone of yours survived and was overseeing the battle making sure nothing bad happened.

And if you go good side Boba Fett is following your transport of Darth meaning following you to the rebellion.

It's stupid but I always assumed it was setting a trap that was never shown because the game was pushed out the door and they were never going to make a sequel.
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>>88868813
No it doesn't.
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>>88868510

>We need not be adversaries. The Emperor will show you mercy, if you tell me where the remaining Jedi can be found.

>There are no more Jedi. You and your inquisitors have seen to that.

>Perhaps this child will confess what you will not.

>I was beginning to think I knew who you were behind that mask. But it's impossible. My master could never be as vile as you!

>Anakin Skywalker was weak. I destroyed him.

>Then I will avenge his death.

>Revenge is not the Jedi way.

>... I am no Jedi.
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>>88869116
I liked the little call back, or forward, to Kylo there.
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>>88868013
>there literally IS no one left who mastered it because the last of it died with Vader
I mean, Luke still has access to the force ghosts...
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>>88868211
Why would the driver have to look different?

I never understood why Rogue One has like seven different stormtroopers.
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>>88869495
Different armor for different needs, same with scout troopers
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>>88869495
A number of reasons. Simplest is that the Empire uses different armor for different roles. Scout Troopers on bikes, AT-AT/AT-ST drivers, etc. The tank driver is geared for his role. They actually wear a lot less armor because they rely on their tanks to protect them.
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hey bros, I come to you in dire need.

Does anyone have decent screen grabs, or better yet asset pages, from the episode of rebels where Zeb and Kallus are trapped alone on that Ice moon?

I'm specifically looking for good reference of that shit little space heater they had for a while.

Thanks!
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>Page 10
See you on the other side, anons
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>>88869533
And he needs completely redone armor and a helmet why?
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>>88869116
The dialogues were the best in the whole franchise. The battle and the FEELS it brought where the best in the franchise. The artistic direction was top notch.

How come Twilight of the Apprentice is the best shit ever in any Star Wars medium? How can they ever hope to top it?
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>>88869573
Symbolize role and rank.

Authoritarian states do it all the time.
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>>88869589
They don't do it with their fucking canon fodder troops.
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>>88869573
Needs to be? No. Was it worth it that they did? Hell yeah, dudes are sexy.

You might as well bitch why TIE pilots don't just wear regular Stormtrooper helmets or why the AT-AT driver basically does but adds a crash helmet.

The answer is because they can.
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>>88869573
1. to fit
2. to better protect them in their position
3. to differentiate
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>>88869539
StarWars.com Episode Guides are your friend here. Doesn't look like there's concept art of the heater, but there is one of the meteorite. Here's a regular screenshot from the episode.
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>>88869618
>Was it worth it that they did? Hell yeah, dudes are sexy.
Seeing as the normal armor, sans pants, would be perfectly serviceable there's no reason for them to give him completely different armor.
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>>88869604
This one does.
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>>88869604
Yes they do, dumbo. Every aspect of the Imperial Military ARE canon cannon fodder. Didn't you figure this out when Vader made Star Destroyers park so close to the asteroid field Han was hiding in in ESB that one of the ships was destroyed?

Or Tarkin just up and nuking the Empire's own secret installation with the Death Star instead of targeting the Rebel Fleet?
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>>88869644
>no reason
If that were true then we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we? Besides, Stormtroopers running around without pants on wouldn't have let them keep that PG-13 rating.
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>ITT: Defending toy marketing
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Migrate time
>>88869719
>>88869719
>>88869719
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>>88869726
Looks like Star Wars is cancelled forever.
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>>88869726
whit was made like an hour ago.

>>88868025
>>88868025
>>88868025
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>>88869814
It helps when people remember to link the new to the old.
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>>88869874
You know how I found it? By not acting like a fucking retard and looking at the catalog.
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>>88869896
>people continually put the new link in the old one to easy migration
>somebody decides not to bother and then cry when people take that step for them

Well you're a real champ.
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>>88870014
>I don't know how to use a search function

no wonder you like Star Wars.
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>>88870040
People are already in the thread where the new link is posted when there is a new thread (unless whoever makes the new thread fucks up).

Either they're going to think that no new thread has been made and help out. OR they might think to look if they think the person who made the new thread is an inconsiderate douche.

Since you're butt blasted over it I guess you're that douche.
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