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/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons Fuck Anoat City Edition

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Fuck Anoat City

>Upcoming Releases:
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>Out This Week:
Rebels 3.11: "Ghosts of Geonosis" (January 7)

>The Original Rebel: Saw Gerrera Returns | Star Wars Rebels
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>Legends Recommendation List:
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First for Boba Fett
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Second for Ezra is a buttslut
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Third for fuck the Vong and BobaFett
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>>88868238
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>>88868294
Is it butthurt to not like the Vong? Because unless they somehow are better than what i heard of them they aren't interesting
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Fifth for Life Debt isn't as bad as Aftermath but it still is pretty bad
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Finally an edition I can get behind, Anoat was the bane of my 10 year old existance
>Prison, Imperial City and the Executor are still top tier levels though
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>>88868332
No, the Vong were a retarded idea born out of desperation to concoct a villain capable of challenging the Jedi after the Sith become a non-factor. They're shit and always have been, which anyone in the galaxy would say that isn't a Duro.
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hey bros, I come to you in dire need.

Does anyone have decent screen grabs, or better yet asset pages, from the episode of rebels where Zeb and Kallus are trapped alone on that Ice moon?

I'm specifically looking for good reference of that shit little space heater they had for a while.

Thanks!
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>>88869227
Oh fuck, talk about obscure. I'll try and make a grab if they even focused on it enough.
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Did anyone get the Adventures in Wild Space books that came out today?
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>>88869340
that would be amazing, thank you!
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I'll never understand why people give a shit about this fight.

It wasn't interesting in the slightest, it didn't show anything new about the characters, it didn't change anything important at all.

The whole point of it was to get rid of a useless, and frankly boring and annoying, character that never should have been in the show to begin with.
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>>88869227
Here mate, hope this helps.
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Does anyone have the handy infographic showing all the best episodes and arcs of the Star Wars: Clone Wars series?
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>>88869907
Disregard that infographic, it's neither handy or informative.
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>>88869907
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>>88869685

It was the conclusion to a character arc that began almost a decade ago. Of course it's going to have some weight to it
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I feel like Commander really would've worked better as a Clone Wars game
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>>88869907
You can just google them which is probably better anyway because people bitch over chart is best or just parrot "WATCH IT ALL WATCH IT ALL" even when someone is specifically saying they only wanted to view what is considered the best.
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>>88868119
>no comic
>no rebels apperance
>movie is schrodinger's cat

What the fuck disney?
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>>88869948
>It was the conclusion to a character arc
it concluded dick and accomplished nothing.
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Thank the Maker the trolls are still stuck in the last thread

Has anyone posted the Darth Maul preview? Gotta love seeing Rathars again. Everybody loves Rathtars.

http://www.starwars.com/news/exclusive-cullen-bunn-talks-marvels-darth-maul-series-plus-a-first-look-at-new-variant-covers
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>>88870129
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Reminder that K2 is street certified
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>>88870129
>>88870158
is people forgetting the second T a meme or something?
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>>88870158
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>>88869907
Use this one(the other guide is shit).

*** is Essential

** is Semi-Essential(some really good episodes here)

* is not Essential and can be skipped
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>>88870172
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>>88870227
DELET THIS!
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>>88870239
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Why the fuck do so many characters in rebels wear shoulder armor? Like, I get that it could be useful for some, like Kanan, but it doesn't make sense on a lot of others.

Minister Tua, Commander Sato, Hera...
Non-combat positions and yet, fucking shoulder armor; why??
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>>88869745

Thanks bro!
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>>88870292
it's in style
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>>88870292
because pauldrons are awesome, and most people shoot in profile, so the pauldron will be facing the enemy and protect you from oncoming fire
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>>88868025
Oh fuck. The darkness, the pipework, the diagonas. I remember it all.

This game made a splendid job in putting you in the skin of a mercenary lost in the sewers. The perfect balance of rage and fear.
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>>88868025
aw shit it's motherfucking dark forces

I finally got hold the game and finished this level together with a friend, we never managed to finish it back when we were kids
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>>88870292
They're transitioning between the PT, which used armor, and the OT which typically didn't for the Rebellion. By season 3 they are close enough to forming the Alliance that the cast transitions into more OT styles.

Sabine still wears Mando style shoulder armor so she is (ironically) the only one who doesn't really change beyond her color scheme.
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>>88870382
I thought the rebels just couldnt afford armor, and the old EU mentioned they had heavily armored troops for special occasions
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>>88870382
>PT, which used armor
the PT was pretty much exclusively during a fucking war.
>and the OT which typically didn't for the Rebellion.
Because the rebels are supposed to be poor as shit and in dire straits all the time until they blow up the Death Star and really draw people to them, something the TV show does a terrible job of showing
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>>88870486
>no MC80s or Nebulon Bs
>no X-wings
>always runs from ISDs
>no strike ability on core worlds

they seem pretty poor to me
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>>88870429
If the Rebellion was interested in armor they could just strip it off their enemies, repaint it a bit.

It's a purely stylistic choice. Faceless imperial troopers versus brave rebels armored only in knowing their cause is virtuous. Does it actually protect them? No, only plot armor really protects because even Stormtroopers die with one shot or you can knock them out by punching their helmets/hitting them with a baton. It's like shields for starfighters, in actual on-screen terms shields do absolutely shit.
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>>88870511
>Literally every episode throwing away scores of pilots and ships over and over again

it's hard to take the "we need more people/ships" shit if you watch them just fucking blow up all their cruisers and pilots every week.
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>>88870533
at least in video games and the tabletop games, shields can actually double your effective toughness
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>>88870486
You're confusing in-universe with thematic stylistic choices.
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>>88870486
>Because the rebels are supposed to be poor as shit and in dire straits all the time until they blow up the Death Star and really draw people to them
Source?

>something the TV show does a terrible job of showing
Quite the opposite.
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>>88870605
>battle of sarif
a single MC75
couldnt destroy the shield generator without quick thinking
>battle of yavin
30 snub fighters
>battle of endor
multiple MC80s
had some degree of confidence in tackling the second death star in a straight fight
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>>88870348
you missed my comment on non-combat positions like minister Tua, an ELECTED OFFICIAL!

>>88870382
honestly, this is the best answer I can think of; while some of the pauldron choices seemed retarded, at least they're moving away from them
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>>88868025

>not liking puzzles in your star wars doom wads
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>>88870686
>this is the best answer I can think of;
It's the answer the Rebels designers told us for the season 3 character changes.
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>>88870562
That would be one of those video game mechanic bits that isn't canon

wakka wakka!
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>>88870752
well, interior shots of the pilots show lots of flashing against the wind shield, so i guess the shield is working, its just that they didnt have the budget to show it
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>>88870781
I'm just making a joke. You know the old bit about how how things work in the video games isn't necessarily canon so you can't just take how certain ships handle as how they handle in-universe?

Or, hell, Battlefront having Vader running around stabbing rebels on Endor and ROTJ Luke on Hoth.
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>>88870843
O like lukes RotJ outfie, it seems to be criminally underused in favor of the orange flightsuit or his farmboy outfit
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>>88870978
Me too
I don't like the flightsuit or farmboy outfits all that much
Bespin Luke is good too but RotJ will always be top
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>>88871029
sadly we never get to see jedi luke in action too much
but him chopping the speeder bike was pretty cool
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>>88870292
Hera makes sense since she's a pilot. We don't want shrapnel
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Rey, or Jyn?
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>>88871222
Jyn

Not even a question.
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>>88871222
jyn
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What happened?
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>the player character's ship in commander is a modified clone shuttle from genndywars
neat.jpg
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>>88871274
The texture of his new haircut is so strange. It's slicked back but also like it's trying to be a buzzcut.
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>>88871274
He got older.
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>>88871274
Trauma induced maturity.
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>>88871274
Blue milk. It does a body good.
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>>88871274
It's called puberty. You'll experience it soon.
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>>88871274
>he went from "nice to meet you, sir" to "your Padawan calls me Master, too"
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>>88871274
Too much fucking Conflict!
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>>88871339
>falling for Galactic Pharma's tricks
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>>88871384
when is he going to turn to the Dark Side?
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>>88871410

I have a feeling Kanan will die (probably by fault of Ezra) and Ezra will turn then and probably go into hiding like Maul

Idk if Rebels will kill them both off just to have the "last if the Jedi" be Luke in Return
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>>88870160
Love that label, shit's tight.
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>>88871529
I would hate to have them die, maybe they just end up becoming not real jedi
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>>88871274
Guilt.
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>>88871256
>>88871262
Why, cause she's a girl?
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>>88871545
>maybe they just end up becoming not real jedi
that's such a cop out
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>>88871387
You leave Phasma's momma out of this! She makes the bulk of the galaxy's blue milk herself! From her own teats!

JERK!
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>>88871593
>jerk
bet your sweet ass I'm doing it
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>>88871586
i feel like just killing them would be a pretty big waste too
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>>88871586
How can they become Jedi when the Jedi Order is gone? When they have no former Jedi Masters training them?

Kanan was, at best, a Padawan officially. His "knighting" took place in his mind, through the force, not through official Jedi Order means.
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>>88871618
We all are, anon. We just don't draw attention to it like you do.
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>>88871545
>>88871529
>Idk if Rebels will kill them both off just to have the "last if the Jedi" be Luke in Return

They'll kill off Kanan at the least. Ezra can still live and walk away from the Jedi path. Which I could see happening with Kanan dying. Without Kanan, as far as he knows, he can't proceed and he'll obviously never find where Kenobi is either.
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http://www.starwars.com/news/interview-dave-filoni-on-star-wars-rebels-part-2

>StarWars.com: I have a bit of a continuity challenge for you. In Return of the Jedi, Yoda tells Luke, “When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be.” But now he knows that Kanan and Ezra are out there. We obviously don’t know at this point what will happen to them, but is that something you’re aware of?

>Dave Filoni: I don’t see it as a challenge at all. It’s what the Sith call an absolute. When Obi-Wan says to Luke, “Your father was the greatest starfighter pilot in the galaxy,” is that true? Or is that something you tell a kid because you want him to believe his father was great? It doesn’t have to be empirical or absolutely true. Saying Luke is “the last,” is that a singular thing, or is he the last of a group? I don’t know.

>It definitely is something that comes up, and we discuss that moment all the time for what it could mean. It is possible to interpret it as, Luke is the last person that’s following the path as laid out by the Jedi Order, which we knew. The way of the Jedi is not the only way to use the light side of the Force. Luke is taught by Obi-Wan and Yoda, who very much followed the dogma of the day. So, he is the last of that line for sure. That’s absolutely true. But you don’t have to be a Jedi to use the Force. You don’t have to be a Sith to use the dark side.
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>>88871666
I'm figuring they won't go the route that every other Jedi seems to go, especially since it would just be a rehash of what happened to Kanan. My bet is that they'll die together saving the rest of the Ghost crew.
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>>88871666
I would like to think that kanan and ezra survive to get knighted after the jedi orderis founded, and become teachers

that way luke is the last jedi, kanan and ezra survive, and somebody with experience gets to be his teachers

the idea that luke was the only teacher always bothers me
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>>88871641
if you don't kill them off by the time Ep IV hits there's a plot hole as to why they never showed up to train Luke in the OT, as Jedi are among the most powerful and important people in the whole Rebellion
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>>88871641
> His "knighting" took place in his mind
Through visions, though not really in his head.

>not through official Jedi Order means.

He was knighted by the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order. Granted, the rest of the council wasn't present. But if anyone has the authority to take it upon them self to Knight someone, it's Yoda.
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>>88871730
That's not a plot hole.
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>>88871730
they could show him some lightsaber tricks, but they never got the spiritual side of being a jedi, and luke was busy being a AoR character not a FaD character, only in EPV did he feel the need to exercise his jedi lineage, but he had yoda by then
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>>88871711
>I would like to think that kanan and ezra survive to get knighted after the jedi orderis founded, and become teachers

But Kanan was already Knighted. He IS a Jedi.

>that way luke is the last jedi

Only if Kanan walks away or dies.
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>>88871785
"""knighted"""
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>>88870725
>>88870686
Best I could find on short notice:

>The style of the characters are starting to line up the style of how characters look in A New Hope and Rogue One as we’re getting closer in to that timeline. For example, Zeb has less armor now and a style that fits in more with aliens from the original trilogy.

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-rebels-season-3-panel/

The Celebration panel is nearly an hour long, and though it's awesome shit I don't have time at the moment to rewatch and see if it was said in the panel or of the author of the article added that bit.
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>>88871736
Because Yoda's clearly so worthy as to decide that after 800+ years of being rused.
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>>88871584
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>>88871842
If I pulled off that mask, would he die?
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>>88871858
Not as stupid as your face.
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>>88871892
It would be extremely painful

For you
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>>88871892
It would be extremely metaphysical.
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>>88871785
It's an old discussion. Honestly we're too early yet to know for certain what happens, and I wouldn't take anything for granted. They can and have done things like that. The Rogue One cast was slated to die because they didn't show up in ANH, which is a bit odd considering Mon Mothma shows up in R1 and doesn't show up in ANH. Just because they aren't back at Yavin during the Death Star incident doesn't mean, really, anything, or doesn't have too. They were actually prepared for Disney to say, "We don't want a slaughter," but Disney was cool with it, so it happened.

Do they actually have to kill off Kanan? I don't think so, at least not from Yoda's line. Honestly what Yoda said doesn't mean much since even if they were still alive Yoda sure as hell wasn't going to tell Luke. Luke's destiny was to face Vader and the Emperor alone, not march in like Mace fucking Windu with Ezra, Kanan, Ahsoka, and, why not, Kyle motherfuckin' Katarn and then pimp slap the Dark Side. They are already well and fully capable of lying to Luke. Especially Obi-Wan. Now we know ghosts are outside the normal rules of time and space. He can see the future of what will happen but he still tries to dissuade Luke from relying on Anakin's feelings still existing in Vader.

There's a very good chance Kanan isn't coming out of this alive. Slightly better odds for Ezra. But who knows when and how, and sure Kanan could decide after they keep fighting that the Jedi way is just no longer the way and gives it up. Maybe the Bendu offers him a new path. Maybe he does something like Ahsoka does, or Ezra does that. Or maybe some other shit will happen.

But does that matter if they survive? We know by TFA that Luke is, once again, the last Jedi. Even if they live it is only a stay of execution if they remain Jedi.
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>>88871892
At this point you'd have to worry if he'd come back to life.
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why are Twi'leks the galaxy's default collective waifu?
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>>88872072
well, there is a better chance to survive kylo's massacre, unlike the imperial one this was carried out by a single band with help from the FO, and you could conceivably hide in the NR space where they cant follow, unlike in the empires day where the jedi could only live liek outlaws in the outer rim
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>>88872096
Because waifufags have one track minds that stick to the first exotic thing with breasts they know. Turns out it's Twi'leks thanks to ROTJ.
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>>88872096
You're clearly forgetting who was the singer here and who was just the backup dancer.
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>>88871822
nice find
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how would /co/ feel about Ahsoka and/or Ezra turning to the Dark Side?
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>>88872130
That's what seems so stupid about this. The FO finally did what the Empire completely failed to do. It apparently wiped out the Jedi...except for Luke, but let's be fair the Empire failed with that too. If Lor San Tekka says they are all gone or even if Leia or Han does, that's one thing. We can think they might not know the whole truth or, heck, maybe Leia is helping hide some somewhere and won't betray their secret.

But when the opening crawl flat out says it? That's damn hard to argue against. It doesn't make it IMPOSSIBLE to reveal surviving Jedi besides Luke, but it does make it both extremely unlikely and indicates that JJ and Kasdan and Lucasfilm were fine with Luke being the last again.

Of course within the same movie it's still perfectly fine to have other Force Users like Maz. She almost had a scene where she got to use powers, too. They just cannot be Jedi.
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>>88872218
Pretty sure most people are already accepting of the idea that Ezra will go somewhat or all the way dark.

Ahsoka would make a small amount of sense considering where she was abandoned and the events causing her to be stuck on Malachor.
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>>88872144
so Jabba was a thiccfag?
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>>88872130
>>88872231
What sucks is if a new show focuses on, say, a band of survivors from Luke's Jedi Order we'd have this same Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads because no matter how scrappy they are or how much we grow to love them TFA says they all gotta die.
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>>88872269
More meat is best meat.
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>>88872289
so basically Rogue 2?
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>>88872231
how would kylos men kill a jedi who was vacationing on mon calamari at the time of the massacre, if they had assassins good enough to penetrate that far into NR space, you have to ask why any members of the NR are still alive
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When are we going to get a canon "Vader has a secret apprentice" arc? I always liked those, or am I just retarded for thinking they were good?
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>>Star Wars is limited. It's a small little universe that they can't do much with.

Rich Evans says some really plebby things, but is this the worst?
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>>88871842
Come to think about it his outfit or rather his helmet resembles that of Vader. Are they implying Vader's suit is just a futuristic variation of traditional Sith armor?
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>>88872347
Kylo passed on very specific information to the FO that included where everyone was on assignment, etc. That guy on vacation you mentioned just got Ki Adi Mundied only while wearing a straw hat and holding an ice cream cone instead of his light saber.

Which is possible, however given the deficit of trained Jedi and maybe Luke just kept them all concentrated in one spot and one day Ben carried a bucket up to the roof and when everyone asked him what he was doing he just said his Uncle Luke told him to do some chores.

Then he paints a giant red X on the roof for the TIE Bombers.
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>>88872433
Aphra
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>>88872532
>non force sensitive
>betrayed him
>already tried to kill her once
not happening
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>>88872433
You're retarded for thinking they were good. It failed with Dooku hard core, it failed in a lesser-sense with the Inquisitor program (since they could have easily been made apprentices, instead they were trained poorly to prevent it).

The only time Vader should express his desire for an apprentice is when he finds out Luke is his son, while not having it ever come to fruition.
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>>88872522
so the FO could just walk in on a core world? the new republic security must be pretty lax
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>>88872515
Darth Sidious had the Vader suit made, so yeah he probably threw in some ancient Sith embellishments. He has, or rather had, a personal collection of evil Sith sit from the good old days, including Sith sabers, armor, random knick knacks. He was clearly a fan.
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>>88872550
I'm not saying its going to happen I'm saying it already happened. The Aphra storyline in Darth Vader is the closest thing we're going to get to him having a secret "apprentice".
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>>88872575
The NR doesn't expect the FO to be a problem. Why would they stop a ship that can easily be marked anything other than FO from entering any world in the galaxy? If the retarded rebellion can get ships in Empire stronghold worlds (Coruscant, Scarif, etc), the FO could easily manage to trick the not-as-together NR.
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>>88872582
I still don't get why she was attracted to him. What's the appeal of Vader?
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>>88872575
Read Bloodline. They had agents capable of blowing up buildings on Hosnian Prime. They could have murdered Leia and a whole bunch of Senators but the bombing was just meant as a DISTRACTION so they also warned her ahead of time. Even then people died and were maimed and the FO loyal Senator who ordered the dissertation was pissed they chose a bomb.

Later on that same group assassinated the replacement Populist candidate for First Senator, albeit to distract the NR from the fact that it was the FO who was really behind the skeezy shit Leia uncovered in the novel.

Really the only surprising thing is that the FO could manage to wipe out a new Jedi Order, and Luke had twenty years so unless he started really really late he SHOULD have some fully trained individuals by now, yet they apparently didn't sense any threat. Sidious engineered the entire Clone Wars just so the latent Dark Side energies would hamper the Jedi ability to use the Force and rely on visions.
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>>88872659
Of course JJ not being a fan of the PT he woudln't give a shit about that.
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>>88872553
but what if he had Snips back?
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>>88872682
JJ isn't even a Star Wars fan.
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>>88872582
Yeah, the comic makes it a point to show that Vader never actively plotted to overthrow Sidious until he found out Luke was alive. Now he has an end goal rather than just spending the rest of his life doing what he's told.
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>>88872685
Sidious would kill her for daring to violate the Rule of Two, while making Vader watch.
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>>88872659
why didnt any of the jedi try to fight back, a thousand clone troops is one thing, but trying to fight dozens if not hundreds of jedi, including luke himself, and dragging an entire army with you sounds like it should attract attention
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Just gonna leave this here.
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>>88872721
if Vader can build whole armies without Sheev noticing he can keep a Jedi on tattooine
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>>88872744
Luke and the Jedi were away. They weren't really involved in the politics of the New Republic.
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>>88872709
that plot point was bullshit, Vader should have been simmering with a lust for revenge 24/7 Sheev stole everything from him
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>>88872767
>without Sheev noticing
Do you honestly believe this?
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>>88872787
RotJ shows that he follows sheev, not willingly and he was planning to overthrow him with his son, but he still kept luke from stabbing him

he probably didnt want luke to fall to the dark side, or thought that he would get force lightninged
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>>88872799
it would be a good story arc to watch him try
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Was it ever cloned?
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Everyone's equally vulnerable when riding in a shuttle. I'm amazed Vader thought to just bomb Sheev's shuttle and be done with it.

Blame it on the Rebels, vow to "avenge the Emperor" and take his place. It's not like the only way to get rid of Sheev was a 1 on 1 duel.
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>>88872653
Bitches get wet for power. That's how gangly nerd Bill Gates scored a hottie for a wife AFTER he rose to become rich and powerful.
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>>88871339
BLUE MILK!?
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>>88872840
*Vader never thought
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>>88872840
probably because before riding shuttle, you rigorously check every millimeter of it for anything suspicious, and if they found the bomb it would be highly incriminating
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>>88872837
We'll find out in episode 9
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>>88872840
Would his pride allow that? It'd seem to me like admitting he isn't powerful enough to face Sideous head on.
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>>88872820
but he should always have had different "work to overthrow Sheev" plots in the works, even before he found out Luke was alive
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>>88872840
At least the dumbass frenchies realized this was possible and tried to take out Sheev over Ryloth.
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>>88872840

Look the reason shit like that doesn't happen is because its boring

why doesn't every Jedi duel just end up being like a western where its whoever gets a force choke or hold off first?
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>>88872787
Except he doesn't know Sheev stole anything from him. He thinks everything that's happened was his own fault, and it mostly was.
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>>88872751
Did you just find out about those? Space whales can go to hyperspace on their own (not that those necessarily can) so turning them into cyborg freaks is totally legit. Even if those cannot naturally enter hyperspace then just install those components into their cybernetics.
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>>88872707
He's self-declared more a Star Wars fan than a Star Trek fan.

Though twice nothing is still a big fat nothing.
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>>88872886
But isn't having to go to Luke for help admitting the same thing? Either way, he's admitting he can't do it himself.

I think a lot of his pride died on Mustafar with Anakin Skywalker, too.
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>>88872709
I don't know if he NEVER plotted to overthrow Sidous. I mean hell he was telling Padme he could overthrow the Emperor in Episode III. It was clearly on his (deranged and dark side addled) mind but after he learned about having a surviving kid then shit got serious.
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>>88873052
Would've been hilarious if he found out about Leia first and Luke just wasted away on Tatooine. Obi-wan too.
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>>88872886
>Sith
>pride
no pride, only unlimited powah
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>>88873032
I see it as confronting the Emperor and getting to hang out with his boy, a win-win situation.

Remember that comic where Darth Vader fought a cloned Darth Maul and the guys who made him said something along the lines of 'you could destroy us all here and now, but if you don't have a badass duel with Maul over the lava then you'll regret it for the rest of your life'? I think it would be like that. He'd doubt that he had the power to defeat Sideous if a bomb does the job and not his skills as a swordsman or a Force user.
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>>88873052
I think it was something that got put way on the backburner after Mustafar. The main reason he wanted to overthrow him and rule the galaxy was to make it an ideal place for him, his wife, and his child. When he found out he lost both his wife and his unborn child and had lost so much of himself I think he also mostly lost the drive to overthrow Sidious, at least until he realized his child had survived.
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>>88872659
Since Rian had a hand in some of the politics in Bloodline I wonder how much, if any, will come into play in Ep VIII? Carise Sindian was plotting to have secret FO allied Centrist Senators transfer their worlds to the FO but as far as we know that hasn't happened yet. Maybe they'll do it after TFA, though it would probably be smarter to have the secretly FO allied Senators in the NR all suddenly have somewhere else they needed to be on the day Hosnian Prime was destroyed. Then afterwards they, as the survivors of the government, all promise to form an interim government that of course full emergency powers over what is left of the NR military while they work to restore what was lost. And before anyone knows it they've consolidated power around a First Order puppet government.
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>>88873074
Nothing would have changed ANH had Vader learned Leia was his daughter instead of learning about Luke.

Rogue One would still steal the plans. Vader would still chase after the Tantive IV. Luke and Obi-wan would still be pulled off Tatooine thanks to Bail and Leia.

It would only change things between movies and give ESB and ROTJ a new direction.
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>>88873106
I suppose that does fit with Anakin/Vader's character. He always had a penchant for refusing to do things the most practical way.

Vader's thinking would probably be
>Using a bomb = cowardly
>Using my apprentice son that I trained myself = an extension of my own power and skill
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>>88873160
In that what-if scenario I'm assuming he would find Leia before the events of Rogue One, so she wouldn't be on the Tantive IV at all.
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>>88873133
Yeah, at the end of ROTS prior to Obi-Wan defeating him he has two things going through his crazy head. Peace and security of the Empire and a brave new life for him and his wife and future kids.

He totally fucks up the last part and thinks he killed Padme and the kids, so he defaults to trying to secure the Empire. If he cannot save Padme he can at least live out his weird power fantasy. He's still rather intelligent and driven, but the way it plays out in Lords of the Sith he's just become very single-minded. In the comics Sheev calls him a blunt instrument, but honestly whose fault is that? Sheev has been happy letting Anakin indulge his fascist fantasies stomping the heads of anyone who gets in his way. This plays out perfect for the Emperor. Vader is extremely powerful but interested only in doing things that further the Empire while not being a threat to the throne.

But after the Death Star is destroyed and the Senate is gone, Tarkin is gone, the Rebellion is growing, now he needs Darth Vader to step up and get the Empire's shit in order until a new Death Star can be completed.
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>>88871517
Here's one i made for you
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>>88871822
It's mentioned in the panel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBVhBsN1H7Q&t=670
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm5czvOeeig

This is a good critique of TFA, sums the probelms of all of JJ's movies.
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>>88873533
>giving youtubers money
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>>88873533
we better get lukes famous green saber, i hope he didnt lose it
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>>88873562
I'd believe the whole "elegant weapon" thing if Lightsabers actually looked elegant and not like vapesticks
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>>88873630
i like the greebled and gubbins look, it helps make them look handmade
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who is the official waifu of /swco/?
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>>88873700
your mom
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>>88873630
Get that star trek shit out of here

>>88873700
SS
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Sucks that we'll never get Hera in Infinity. I don't give a shit about the game, but I do own the rest of the figures. No Hera, no Chopper, no Rebels Ahsoka. Total bummer.
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>>88873718
>star trek shit
It looks like they just took Dooku's saber, flipped it around, and put a guard on it.
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>>88873700
Hey man, they're all good. Enjoy whomever you like.
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>>88873730
>caring about statueshit
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>>88873700
these two
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>>88873740
whats the point to a guard? the enemy saber is cutting clean through it

also the overly smooth look doesnt really scream star wars
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>>88873766
>whats the point to a guard?
to block attacks against your hand.
>the enemy saber is cutting clean through it
not unless it's made of whatever the riot batons are made of. also there's far more weapons out there than lightsabers.
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>>88870160
>figuarts
Nice.
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>>88873789
too short. BS is bigger.
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>>88873760
So you are officially on record as stating that you would like other people to stop liking what you yourself do not like. Excellent. Any other points of business?
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>>88873784
if the enemy doesnt have a saber, then he cant block

just go all-out with your attacks
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who would win in a fight between Maul and Vader?
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>>88873822
>if the enemy doesnt have a saber, then he cant block
Well you know that's just not true.
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>>88873833
Disney because you faggots would buy whatever is showing that retarded story and declare it genius.
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>>88873801
Come on, man, they aren't stormtroopers. K-2 being 5'11' for that figure is perfectly okay.
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>>88873837
only the riot stick and shockstaff are shown capable of blocking a saber, and only on the tips, the saber cuts through the shaft fine
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>>88873861
Considering that retards like yourself haven't defeated Disney by shitting on things that haven't happened and may never happen, I don't think another set of retards liking whatever Disney does will equal victory.
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>>88873889
>and only on the tips
literally half way along the non-energized part of the baton.
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>>88873784
>not unless it's made of whatever the riot batons are made of.
Riot baton only can block because it's electrified.
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If Luke Skywalker was to rebuild the Jedi Knights, then during his training by Yoda on Dagobah, why wasn't he taught how to measure someone's midichlorian count?
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>>88873906
That's something called a choreography mistake.

>>88873920
why would he need to?
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>>88873889
The metallic, non-energized parts of the staff have defeated sabers in both TFA and ROTS. We had a thread months ago sharing the pics.

But maybe they'll fix it in Special Editions.
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>>88873925
>That's something called a choreography mistake.
keep telling yourself that.
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>>88873928
didnt obi wan slice a shock staff in half?
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>>88873949
>keep telling yourself that.
It's the truth. Choreography mistakes happen. RotS has one too with the Magnaguards.
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>>88873925
To determine if someone is capable of becoming a Jedi.
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>>88873967
keep telling yourself that, anon.
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>>88873833
Vader would FUCK him, in his ASS! HE'D FUCK HIM IN HIS ASS!!!
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>>88873959
In TCWs a staff is destroyed by cutting it. In ROTS we have two instances where a hit to the middle didn't destroy the staff.
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>>88869958
What do you mean?
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>>88874000
midi-chlorian counts are just one way of testing for force sensitivity. In any case, he could've easily been taught or learned after the OT, especially because he barely was trained during the OT.


>>88874015
we've literally seen a lightsaber slice through the magnaguard staff, and the riot batons aren't any different from them
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>>88874049
And number two. Were the weapons that could be cut different and these are the full anti-jedi versions? Did this get retconned? Is it a choreography mistake, the threads new favorite phrase, because despite the Magnaguards being CGI they did have the Blue Man Group standins.
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>>88874043
don't get too enthusiastic, that's gay don't you know
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>>88874079
>we've literally seen a lightsaber slice through the magnaguard staff, and the riot batons aren't any different from them
prove it.
the only instance we have shows a riot baton stopping a lightsaber for several seconds without the aid of any kind of visible energy field.
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>>88874100
Only a Sith deals in absolute gay so it is fine and oh so deliciously canon
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What happened to Maul's lower half?
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>>88874091
You want to know the real reason?
Lore doesn't fucking matter.
Weapons will act however the people making the movie want them to.
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>>88874130
>Only a Sith deals in absolutes
literally what did George mean by this?
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>>88874167
Since it was full of hate, it was able to survive, some how find a grate in the meaningless pit it fell down, hide aboard a trash ship which for some reason is connected to a meaningless pit for some reason. It then found it's way to the lower half of a trash planet where it made a spider torso and head for itself.
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>>88874180
He means that the Jedi are no better than the Sith, because they too deal in absolutes
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>>88874127
>prove it.
staff being cut: pic related vs >>88874049 and >>88874091


>the only instance we have shows a riot baton stopping a lightsaber for several seconds without the aid of any kind of visible energy field.
yes, a choreography mistake. for most of the fight between Finn and TR8R the saber hits the electrical part
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>>88874180
Sith LOVE their abs, man. That's why Kylo Ren wants an eight pack so damn bad.
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did Bariss really do anything wrong?
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>>88874209
and yet the big dramatic part has it on a non-energized part and not cutting it for several seconds, showing clearly that the Lightsaber can't get through it.
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>>88873766
Wasnt Sheevs saber constructed of a material in which that couldnt easily be cut through by a saber? Perhaps like that of a vibrosword? Or is that not canon anymore?
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>reshoot beard
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>>88868025

This level and the ice-spiral-staircase took me forever for some fucking reason
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>>88874229
She blew up a sacred installation and killed innocent civilians.
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>>88874229
she used a bomb in a public area
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>>88868025
what's the best Dark Forces/Jedi Knight game?
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>>88874243
Is it as bad as the reshoot wig from TPM?
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>>88874209
well, the FFG book claims that magna guard staffs are made of cortosis, a material that resists all energy based attacks

the guide claims phrik, a material that doesnt melt quickly, so a glancing blow will not cut through

perhaps the one obi-wan used was substandard and made of durasteel
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Re-watching The Phantom Menace right now and I have a question. When Padme, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Jar-Jar, Anakin and the whole crew finally arrive on Coruscant, Qui-Gon hangs back to tell Chancellor Vallorum that he needs to talk to the Jedi Council asap. Anakin kind of lingers behind Padme, the fake Queen and their entourage looking at Qui-Gon and Padme tells him to come on. Then Qui-Gon motions to Anakin to go along with all the Naboo crew. What was the point of this scene? Did Qui-Gon tell the Naboo entourage to baby-sit Anakin for a little while? Why not tell Anakin directly? Also why did Qui-Gon even tell the Chancellor that he needs to talk to the Council. He's a Jedi, can't he just go talk to them? Why does he need to tell "no-confidence Vallorum" that?
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>>88874247
It's kind of hard to focus in the dark with Diagonas chasing you.
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>>88874291
Lucas needed to pad some time.
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>people taking shit in a movie like it's fucking gospel

this is why no one likes you faggots
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>>88874229
Even if you agree with her politics she got caught, so yeah, she fucked that up.
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on a scale from 1 to 10, with 10 being the most, how mindbroken was Anakin by the horrors he saw in the Clone War?
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>>88874334
What did you expect from moviefags?
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>>88874360
4 initially
8 after sheevs awakening
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>>88874285
Maybe no one gave a shit much like the rest of the franchises minor errors because it literally doesn't fucking matter?
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>>88874049
>>88874091
>>88873925
>>88873906
Theyre made the same way a vibro-blade works, the electrified areas are strictly for subduing their opponents
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>>88874180
He's referring to Anakin's statement: "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy." He's saying only a Sith thinks that way.

Obi-Wan is saying an absolute, but Anakin is dealing in absolutes.

>>88874230
Because it's a choreography mistake. The rest of the fight, the saber clashes with the electrified part.

>>88874285
FFG isn't canon. I'm not even sure if it's Legends.
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>>88869685
I liked it personally because it kept Vader fighting in his OT tradition (Slow and power hits) while Ahsoka fought like a traditional PT jedi (quick choreography looking movement)
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>>88874407
>Because it's a choreography mistake.

Source?
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>>88874291
Did you not read the opening scroll telling that the Chancellor sent the Jedi secretly? He was reporting to the Chancellor because he's higher authority than the Jedi Order.
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>>88874407
so its phrik then?
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>>88874408
slow is relative, he is a lot more agile then people imagine
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>>88874407
>FFG isn't canon
Technical specs are
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>>88874285
Cortosis still exists but so far it only has energy dampening properties, not necessarily stated as full anti-lightsaber metal. Phrik was mentioned in the Tarkin novel but I don't think any properties were stated.

FWIW in this debate:

>These mechanically complicated, double-ended electrostaffs were designed to repel lightsaber strikes. They conducted electricity that could block the Jedi blades and were able to incapacitate organic beings of most physiologies

http://www.starwars.com/databank/electrostaff

They clearly only mean the electrical fields can resist sabers, however could the rest of them be built from a lightsaber resistant material? Sure, I guess. Resistant doesn't necessarily mean immune, either, just that it would take, say, Grievous' super cyborg strength?

This is one of those debates that can go round and round in circles, and clearly no matter what is said to day it will come up again just as it has in the past regardless of what people said then, too. In the long run does it even matter? Probably not.
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>>88874465
>In the long run does it even matter?
one could say that about anything in these threads
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>>88874423
My eyes?

The fact that Lucas specifically has said that no normal(non-energy) weapon can block a lightsaber, which is the whole reason the Darksaber exists?

The fact that Magnaguard staffs have a similar mistake and are very similar?

>>88874437
Phrik can't block sabers in canon.

>>88874459
Source?
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>>88874432
That is a big mistake if you ask me. The Jedi should answer only to the Force and the Jedi Council. How could the Jedi submit to politicians?
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>>88874465
Phrik is described as "nearly indestructible" now, so it's probably not lightsaber resistant. Lucas didn't like it and the new canon has largely been following his vision.
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>>88874465
>you can deflect blaster bolts with a riot stick
oh baby yes
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>>88874513
>My eyes?
>The fact that Lucas specifically has said that no normal(non-energy) weapon can block a lightsaber, which is the whole reason the Darksaber exists?
>The fact that Magnaguard staffs have a similar mistake and are very similar?
And yet in canon, it blocks the lightsaber.
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>>88874519

Luke directly hits Vader with a lightsaber in cloud city and it bounces off.
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>>88874530
>And yet in canon, it blocks the lightsaber.
Because of a choreography mistake.

Or are Force kicks now a thing too?
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>>88874514
>How could the Jedi submit to politicians?
I don't think you understand how devastating the Sith Empire was. when the jedi order and republic survived they vowed it wouldnt happen again and they became sub servant
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>>88874544
>Because of a choreography mistake.
Do you have a source that it's a mistake, or are you just talking out of your ass?

>Or are Force kicks now a thing too?
looks like a force push to me.
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>>88874509
You can, yeah. However I believe quite a few of us are here for new material, not for rehashed debates.
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>>88874513
Storygroup and the fact the tech specs are almost word for word mentioned in new cross sections
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>>88874579
Do you have a source to your stupidity?
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would /swco/ fuck the clones?
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>>88874598
So you're just talking out of your ass, got it.
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>>88874565
When Qui-Gon tells the Council that he believes he was fighting a Sith (Darth Maul,) and Mace Window was like "The Sith have been extinct for 1,000 years", what is he referring to exactly? Are there some comics I can read that tell of the supposed extinction of the Sith? Was Yoda around when the Sith supposedly died out?
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>>88869685
It was;

>The first on-screen, canon, (suited) Vader fight since 1983
>The first on-screen, canon, (suited) Vader fight where we actually see him fighting with the intention to kill
>The culmination and climax of a 8-year-long story, with some excellent emotional dialogue and moments.
>Had the balls to do some very exciting new stuff, wasn't just a copy/homage to another movie fight.
>A showcase of Anakin and Ahsoka's fighting styles, and to a more significant effect, OT vs. PT
>Two fan-favorite characters fighting to the death
>Beautifully animated

And so much more.

It was a very impactful and emotionally resonating fight that a lot of people loved. It's currently the highest rated episode of TCW/Rebels ever (on IMBD) so clearly they did something right that you are missing.
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>>88874591
You don't need to be here for new material. The only thing you really get out of these kinds of places are the same repeated debates over and over.

In all seriousness though, all of this stuff comes from people taking movies as some kind of holy writ, rather than as a fucking movie. It doesn't help that Lucasfilm has actually worked to promote this idea, rather than just admitting to various problems and mistakes and just saying "it's just a movie people"
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>>88874579
>Do you have a source that it's a mistake, or are you just talking out of your ass?
I'm not talking out of my ass, I'm using my eyes and common sense.

We see the magnaguard staff block a saber twice even though canon has established that the non-electrified parts can be sliced by a saber. Which obviously means it's a choreography mistake.

Riot batons work similarly, and the electrified parts are specified as what can block it. And the rest of the fight is choreographed to have the saber hit the electrified portion. Therefore, choreography mistake.

>looks like a force push to me.
You've got to be trolling.

>>88874597
>Storygroup
Again, source? Tweets or statements from members.

>and the fact the tech specs are almost word for word mentioned in new cross sections
That doesn't make them canon.
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>>88874695
it was what the obi wan v. vader fight should have been
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>>88874722
>I'm not talking out of my ass, I'm using my eyes and common sense.
So you're talking out of your ass and have no source for your claim, because from what I've seen in the movie, you're wrong.
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>>88870129
>>88870158
>>88870173

Rathtars look a million times more appropriate in this comic than they did in TFA.

>Maul having to hunt/defeat wild lovecraftian nightmares in a comic?
Gotcha'.

>Rumbling spaghetti monsters in shitty lighting and mediocre CGI flailing asians around while the plucky young heroes escape?
Yeah, nah.
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>>88874513
George doesn't like ANYTHING non-lightsaber blocking lightsabers except energy fields.

>The Darksaber. That was a big deal. And again that was an idea that came straight from George. Originally what Pre Vizsla was carrying was something in the EU called a vibroblade; it's kind of an electric sword. George let me get away with it in the early phases of design and in the early shooting, but when the color came back and he was watching the lightsaber we want to have combating this vibroblade, he said there's no way that can happen; there's no way that a non-lightsaber could block a lightsaber. So he had us do away with the vibroblade in that episode really late in the game, and he created something called the Darksaber, which would be a black-bladed energy saber with a white edge.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/01/28/star-wars-are-you-ready-for-the-mandalorians

Arguably he hates energized metals too which is why the Magnaguard weapons have their lightning effects. Zygerrian whips are energy too and can block blades.
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>>88874634
I don't have to be that anon to say that you're a retard. No metal can resist a lightsaber right now, end of.

>>88874713
>rather than just admitting to various problems and mistakes and just saying "it's just a movie people"

They have done this many times.
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>>88874713
>You don't need to be here for new material.
Clearly not. You can be hear for the debate club, or for trolling, or for waifus.
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>>88871540
Moraband
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>>88874763
I still think it's a really boring creature design but it does look better drawn than it does in CG
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>>88874763
Agreed. With a still image medium, you can pretend the Rathtars actually have weight
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>>88872751
Space whales are unironically one of my favorite additions to the canon in 2016. The Vader comic and Rebels cartoon both showed these huge, mystical majestic creatures in different lights, and I loved it.

Reminder that just because something may seem larger than life, or goofy, doesn't mean it doesn't belong in Star Wars.

There's a limit of course, but Space Whales are certainly very welcome IMO.

They've also technically been around since TCW Season 1 back in '09.
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>>88874742
>So you're talking out of your ass and have no source for your claim,
No. I use common sense and combine it with canon information.

Lucas said that nothing can block a saber unless it's like the magnaguard staffs, which have electrified portions. This is why the Darksaber(which was going to be a vibroblade>>88874765) exists

>because from what I've seen in the movie, you're wrong.
So you only have seen that one tiny part of the fight and are ignoring the rest of it? You're super dense m8
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>>88874767
I will not defer! I was not elected to watch my questions about The Phantom Menace ignored amd die while you debate idiotic insignificant details of The Force Awakens in a committee!
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>>88872837
We'll find out in 2020's "Zillo: A Star Wars Story", the first ever Star Wars monster movie.
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>>88874686

Nah, but the movies themselves indicate that the Sith were a really detrimental to the galaxy back then.

>The Sith have been extinct for a millennia.
>I will not let this Republic, which has stood for a thousand years, be split in two.
>We haven't had a full-scale war since the formation of the Republic.

Dunno about this vow stuff between the Jedi and the Republic, but the Sith Empire was the direct cause of the biggest war that has since only been matched by the Clone War... Which the Sith were also responsible for.

So yeah, I could totally see that as a good enough excuse for the Jedi to become servants of the Republic and answer to the Senate.
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>>88874722
>Again, source? Tweets or statements from members.
I don't have the tweet but look on the wook article for the card games. Theres a discussion about it

>That doesn't make them canon.
This info is also on the card.
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>>88874848
Hey guess what.
It's still canon.
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>>88874765
There's a behind the scenes video on the making of the Darksaber that includes the art department guy describing what Lucas felt about the matter. I don't happen to have the link handy, though. Not sure if anyone else remembers it.
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Star Wars Episode 8: Shroud of the Dark Side
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>>88874871
What about the Mandalorian War? Surely the Sith werent behind that
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>>88874801
It is a very boring creature design, especially when compared to basically every other creature in Star Wars.
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>>88872289
Retcon the retcon? Comics change the "canon" of their universes all the time, they'll do it to TFA too give how much damage it does to the rest of the universe.
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>>88874871
Thank you.
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>>88874900
>What about the Mandalorian War?
Which one? The one where they sacked the Jedi temple or the one that left the surface of Mandalore an inhospitable wasteland? Or the however many other wars the Mandalorians have fought with who knows how many other cunts?

>Surely the Sith werent behind that
We have no indication that they were. Though it wouldn't come as a surprise to me personally if they were.
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>>88874956
It'll come about that they're still alive but they don't call themselves Jedi, so they don't actually count.
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>>88874956
They could reveal that what was said in the opening crawl of TFA wasn't actually the real truth, just the truth from the certain point of view of the people in TFA. Luke introduces Rey to his super ultra topsecret Jedi Order hidden from the First Order and Snoke. Sure it could happen. It's unlikely but it could happen.

The thing is it wasn't just JJ. The storygroup, Kathleen, et al all had to sign off on that information.As far as we know, right now, they are perfectly cool with all the Jedi but Luke being dead.
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>>88874998

I do what I can, anon. You're a good firend.
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I like that this whole line of shitposting started because I posted a lightsabre that I thought looked cool
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>>88875032
"We aren't Jedi anymore. We're calling ourselves the Wizard Wizards, because that's totally wizard. It was my dad's idea. My dead ghost dad, I mean."

At this point Rey wonders if it really was such a good idea to meet Luke after all.
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>jynnic (jyn and krennic pairing) actually exists
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>>88874999
THE SITH CONTROL EVERYTHING

OPEN YOUR EYES

OPEN YOUR EYEEEEEEEEEEES
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>>88874884
>I don't have the tweet but look on the wook article for the card games. Theres a discussion about it
Not really seeing much(besides a few discussions in the Talk pages for some of the FFG stuff where they say it's Legends) but I do know that The Wook treats FFG materials as Legends or Real-World. Not as canon.

I've never seen a tweet claiming that the FFG is canon.

>This info is also on the card.
That does not mean it's canon.

Just like one of the short stories mentioning Gormaanda from the Holiday Special does not mean that the Holiday Special is canon.

@88874891
No more (You)'s from me. You're too obvious at your trolling now
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>>88875069
show me
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>>88875075

Oh, dear me! Someone stop that Clone! He's gone mad!
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>>88875083
Sorry your headcanon isn't real anon.
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>>88875075
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>>88875069
Is Lyric an existing pairing?
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>>88872840
Unlike Yoda, Sheev can smell an obvious trap
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>>88875105
>Yes we could just administer these shots by hand but these floating robots are so much more... expensive.
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>>88875069
That's honestly disgusting.

I absolutely despise this revolting tween/tumblr mentality that every show must have characters to ship and fantasize about.

Like they can't possible comprehend or fathom a story or character relationships without them secretly wanting to have gay/underage/incest/rapey/interspecies sex with everybody and everything.

And for "Jynnic", that is absolutely fucking gross based on Krennic's relationship with Galen. They thought that Jyn would ever think of Krennic in a romantic light after what happened with her father makes me feel disgusted. I don't want to think about despicable unfaithful, unhonourable/unloyal whores when I watch Star Wars. I watch Star Wars to escape that, and Jyn is a bretty cool girl.
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How do i beat Anoat City /swco/?
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>>88875168
>he thinks it's only tweens
>he thinks it's only tumblr
How new are you to the internet?
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>>88875095
Tumblr.
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>>88874894
Found it, it was the Creating Mandalore Featurette

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs21QP1czZg&t=13m4s
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>>88875168
what about jyn and cassian?
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>>88875168
>getting this mad about dumb ships
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>>88874180
He was talking shit about W and it didn't age well.
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>>88875069
There's a Galen and Bodhi ship too (it's called sciencepilot)

Which at least makes sense since Galen did send Bodhi the message to Saw.
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>>88875249
It's understandable, everyone's a little gay for Mads
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>>88875207
It "makes more sense", but considering it was only even hinted in their final minutes makes it a pointless ship.

I thought that the fact that they didn't kiss, and instead died in each others arms as friends, was a very poignant moment.

>>88875185
I know, but it's particularly overbearing with them.

I know it happens in other places. Even /swco/ sometimes, but having one or two posts about Ezra and /ss/ every other thread, is better than everybody in the thread trying to force their shitty ships. It's less frustrating in small, satirical doses, compared to tumblr where the users there only even watch shows to find an excuse to ship characters.

>>88875233
I am not really mad at shipping overall, but that "Jynnic" one certainly rustled my jimmies
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>>88875272
>I am not really mad at shipping overall, but that "Jynnic" one certainly rustled my jimmies
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, Anon, but I think you may have autism.
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>>88875292
Oh...
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>>88875168
I agree, this is outrageous, the only one for Krennic is Poggle
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why didn't Chewbacca or R2 try to stop the Skywalker incest that they knew for a fact was going on on Hoth?
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>>88875272
Shipping in general is something you should never fucking bother with. It is the realm of sad fucks with no lives, only slightly better than waifufags.
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>>88875326
How the hell would Chewie know?
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Upon review my studies have found Grievous is not a jobber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kte-jKKyNOo
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>>88875326
>Chewbacca or R2 try to stop the Skywalker incest
Did Chewie ever meet anyone other than Yoda?
Was R2 even around for the one kiss?
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>>88875083
Nevermind. I'm talking about the Star Wars: Card Trader game not FFG.There was a tweet from Leland or another storygroup member saying it's non canonical but the technical information is not unless proven otherwise. I'll look for the link tomorrow but I'm going to bed. It's a bit like the tweet Leland had a while back saying if a ship appears in new canon, you can assume it has it's legends name + spec information. The DP-20 gunship for example.
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>>88875359
He was in the room, though he's off-screen and completely silent when it happens.
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>>88875359
>the one kiss
>>>>implying
we all know what happened off-screen
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>>88875421
Indeed, Leia and 2-1B got hot and heavy
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There's some real neat Lightsabers that people've made.
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>>88875344
people get really rustled over grievous getting nerfed but genndywars itself clearly stated that he's only really effective when he gets the drop on jedi
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>>88875198
It's interesting seeing Dave talk about how we haven't seen - yet - how the uniform look of the Deathwatch armor became the green stuff that Boba finds. It's possible now in the post-Satine, pro-Imperial government that the clans are rearming and rearmoring.

Or it happens because Sabine uses the Darksaber to claim leadership of Mandalore and the next day society collapses.

Also kind of weird Dave never even hinted that maybe Boba painted the armor himself years ago and it's just gotten pretty beaten up since. Also I suppose 1313 would have shown us some of this, too.
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>>88875443
So lightsaber versions of this?
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Is is true that, although AOTC and ROTS were only filmed in 1080p, the 1080p technically has more detail than a Blu Ray release?
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>>88875443
Okay. So what happens first, someone makes this into a BAIT image or someone makes it into a sex toy.
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how would Rex react to the knowledge that Vader is Anakin?
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>>88875483
>Also kind of weird Dave never even hinted that maybe Boba painted the armor himself years ago
Not sure he had to, I think most of us just assumed that's what he did.
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>>88875503
>Vader Kills Rex
>Vader has successfully murdered every one he ever cared about
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>>88875503
He suffers a stroke, loses his memory, and when he wakes up he's given the new identity of Nik Sant, jolly old man of the Rebellion.
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>>88875523
Ahsoka lives
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>>88875520
This is Dave, though, so he's teasing that they have some story on the horizon that will completely blow all of our socks off.
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>>88875491
Looks like it.
Found another Lightsaber Rapier too.

I really don't understand why people lose their shit over this stuff. They're space wizards that can do literally whatever they want. Let em make their swords look like whatever.
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>>88875053
Another question... was it Sheev's plan to have the Trade Federation take over Naboo permanently? Or was he just trying to create a situation which would lead to him being made the new Chancellor? If he did want them taking over Naboo, what was to gain by that?
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>>88875615
Both?
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>>88875520
Probably because this was still when Lucas was driving the stories. He'd wonder why Boba would repaint the armor and then let it get so crappy. They talk about Boba tricking out his armor more than even the Deathwatch did because he has his bounty hunting gadgets too, but that's more of a utilitarian mentality. They also talk about Boba claiming armor from fallen warriors to add to his own collection. Whether a tribute or an insult, would he see fit to recolor it or just wear it as he claimed it?

I guess at this point we might ask why Boba never got that dent buffed out of his helmet.
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>>88875541
>>
is there anything new in the rogue one novelization that wasnt in the movie?
>>
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/816394772231241728

We finally got a tweet from Pablo outright stating that SWTOR isn't canon.
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>>88875548
I like the look of this handguard too.
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>>88875712
based Pablo
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>>88875712
didn't we already know that?
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>>88875712
This is nothing new from him:

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/734434921213775876
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>>88875344
Eh. Watching that video, he didn't seem to actually win any of those battles except for the one where he killed just a padawan. That's not really sellin' me on TCW Grievous.
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>>88875712
But we already knew that.
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>>88875734
>>88875758
It was said in a liveblog of a panel a year or so ago but this is just another confirmation, and an easier one to post since it's not surrounded by other questions and comments
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>>88875712
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!!
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>>88875712
Do we really have anyone here who's under the impression that it is? I know we used to get people like two years ago saying TOR is still canon because it's still being produced but I haven't seen anyone try to claim it as canon for a very long time.
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>>88875757
"Gee, Grievous, do you have all those cybernetics because you're a brave, bold warrior who has survived decades of warfare that left its toll on your body?"
"No, kid, COUGH COUGH. Deathsticks are well named."
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>>88875789
On occasion we do. And elsewhere I've seen people ask
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>>88875757
He beat Ahsoka twice, and obi wan twice
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>>88875615
>was it Sheev's plan to have the Trade Federation take over Naboo permanently?

I can't say that it was meant to be, because I doubt he would've wanted them to be satisfied for long as he still needed them to be butthurt enough to be part of the CIS years later. So I guess after he became Chancellor, he would've probably had a means ready to get the TF off of Naboo.

Of course whatever those means are seemingly were never used as Amidala and the Jedi 'fixed' the situation, and instead of the sympathy vote he originally planned, he probably made it look like the thwarting of the TF was his idea and instead got a massive 'this guy's got his shit together, we need him in office' vote.
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>>88875712
Oh thank god that game isn't canon. It completely destroyed everything about Revan and the lore from KOTOR.... Wait a minute... If they're making the game that destroys KOTOR's lore noncanon does this mean....

KOTOR IS 100%
ABSOLUTELY
OFFICIALLY
ETERNALLY
CANON
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>>88875803
so:

Grievous > Jedi
Jedi > gungans
gungans > Grievous

?
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>>88875659
>Whether a tribute or an insult, would he see fit to recolor it or just wear it as he claimed it?

I tend to think he wore it as he claimed it.

Pic related.
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what is the best lightsaber color?
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>>88875837
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/719980921982685184
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>>88875789
Every single day we have retards coming in here asking if TOR or Genndywars or Shadows of the Empire are canon.
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>>88875841
He was surrounded by an entire army

And remember Gungans are warriors, jar jar was the exception
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>>88875841
>2017
>fucking up inequality signs
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any place I can read the latest short story from Insider magazine? The voice of the Empire
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>>88875841
>gungans > Grievous

No, Tarpals > Grievous

And that magnificent bastard had to die for his victory. Show some respect, soldier!
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>>88875891
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>>88875905
... fuck you, man.
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>>88875848
"Hey guys, can I get some sweet armor like yours? My dad was a Mandalorian too!"
"Who was your dad?"
"The famous bounty hunter Jango Fett!"
"Jano Fett wasn't Mandalorian! He was a punk wannabe bitch!"
"..."

Fifteen minutes later Boba leaves dragging a sack filled with all their armor.
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>>88875933
It was all Padme's fault.
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The Empire DID have back-ups of the data on Scarif

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/815991594264379392
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What do you think is the ugliest alien design in the series?
Gotta go with Gungans. Always found the design to be hideous, even as a kid.
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>>88875980
Makes sense. They built a second Death Star way too fast for them not to have had a backup.
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Can you guys please post Sheev memes? I've lost my stock
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>>88875983
Ben Quadinaros is my least favorite alien design. Also not a fan of Abednedos.
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>>88876009
/tv/ has a better supply.
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>>88876009
a little late, but oh well
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>>88875983
The Dug, they always creeped me out.
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>>88875948
>Fifteen minutes later Boba leaves dragging a sack filled with all their armor.

From poisoning their drinks no doubt. No way in hell Boba'd be able to come out on top in a fight against a room full of Mandalorians.
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>>88876017
Hey man, he would have won the OT Era Boonta Eve if it hadn't been for those pesky Freemakers!
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>>88876036
It was easy.
Step 1: Burst into tears.
Step 2: Wait for them to all die of laughter.
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>>88875948
Wasn't Jango Fett a Mandalorian superstar or something? The Kaminoans kept describing him as "genetically perfect" and shit
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>>88876071
>Wasn't Jango Fett a Mandalorian superstar or something?

Not after 2014. Canon Jango is just a widely respected and feared Bounty Hunter who wore Mandalorian gear.
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>>88876071
No, and the Kaminoans never said that.
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>>88874789
Say that to my face and not online and see what happens.
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>>88875967

>You're breaking my heart!
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so if (assuming I had the means) I were to pitch my nonsense star wars fic to the story group but branded it Legends, would they let me go through with it
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>>88876130
>this actually happens IRL
George is a genius
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>>88876130
Padme would have been a really shitty mom
>>
In case anyone's too lazy to keep up with Pablo's twitter feed, there is a subreddit that's cataloging all of his tweets

https://www.reddit.com/r/thesupremepablo/
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>>88876130
>"She's lost the will to live!"
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>>88876145
depends on if Disney wants them to publish legends material.

But yes.
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>>88876160
>Supreme Pablo
Uh oh
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>>88875948
Always hating on the adopted kids....
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>>88876114
The AOTC armor doesn't look very good, it looks like a Halloween costume.
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>>88876036
Maybe old mandies, new mandalorians are scrubs
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>>88876181
>I HAVE BROUGHT SLOOTS, WEALTH, AND AUTHORITY TO MY BETA UPRISING
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>>88876215
>it looks like a Halloween costume.
Show me a physical Star Wars costume that doesn't.
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>>88876160
We've gone too far.
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>>88876215
It's the pants and shoes that give off that impression for me. Looks a little too mundane.
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>>88876160
UPDATE THE WOOK

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/816451197225693184

>Star Destroyers get their name from their long-range scanners originally being designed to ruin the careers of scandalous celebrities.
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>>88876283
>there will actually be serious debate in the Wookiepedia forums over whether or not to edit the article after this tweet
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>>88876322
They'd probably just put it under "Trivia".
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>>88876283
"Oh man, check this view out! Wow, so that's why they call it a Snootles Job!"
"Whooooa, nice! Look at that man's cheeks cave in!"
"Aw yeah, booooy! ...Wait, is that-"
"GRAND MOFF TARKIN!?"
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So if Ahsoka is stuck on Malachor will she have to use the Dark Side to escape?
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>>88876487
Three Inquisitors showed up. None left, Maul stole one of their TIEs. There was no carrier ship so apparently these modified TIEs have hyperdrives. She'll be fine.
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>>88876487
Another way to escape is to die.
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>>88876510
>>88876512
Let's compromise: she took one of the leftover Inquisitor ships, but she was too tired from the fight to fly properly and just crashed it back onto Malachor, dying instantly.
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>>88876559
Ahsoka is not for death, only for suffering. Only her anger will give her the strength to kill Vader.
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>>88876559
It's perfect.
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>>88876559
She took the magic star-anus to wolf world.
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is this the GOAT star wars fight scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UVJSJOiLk4
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>>88876593
I find no real drama in it, and overall the choreography just feels clunky.

I do not go to Star Wars for good fights.
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>>88876593
Ahsoka has horns but not goat horns so no, this is not a goat scene.
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>>88876593
Its not even the best animated one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg&t=135s
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>>88875096
Sheevs kindly grandpa routine was hilarious

>Good morning, Skywalker. I've just baked a fresh batch of Life Day cookies, just like mother made them....
>Oh, please don't start crying master jedi. Here, have some sweets and I'll get you a glass of mlik
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>>88876666
Go read the Obi-Wan and Ani-ken comic Sheev was working him from day one
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>>88876215
>The AOTC armor doesn't look very good
Looks leagues better than Boba's clownsuit.

>>88876224
>new mandalorians are scrubs
And how do you get that idea? Canon Mandos have shown to be able to be just as competent as Clones.

Legends mandos were a bunch of edgy, stupid looking dumbshits.
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>>88876666

What you forgot to mention is that Sheev does this after the rise of the empire, not before

Also nice get
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>>88875852
Yellow.
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>>88875727
never used based along side that fat faggot
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>>88876695
wrong legends mandos, had purely unique armor to a man, with the best of them being amazing strategists


the Death watch, are nothing more then storm troopers with jet packs

Fuck Death watch are considered losers in the old cannon, that was their shtick
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>>88872072
>march in like Mace fucking Windu with Ezra, Kanan, Ahsoka, and, why not, Kyle motherfuckin' Katarn and then pimp slap the Dark Side.

...FUCK, I really want to see that now. Damn it, anon.
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>>88874999
>>88875075
IT WAS ME
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>>88876695
Canon mandos are basically exactly the same, except their embrace of being violent supercommandoes isn't portrayed as noble or heroic. Deathwatch, the Protectors and the Imperial Mandos are tough, nasty guys. Old canon mandos were overhyped
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>>88876736
Pablo is based

-Lil B
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>>88876754
We've seen it. In ROTS. It didn't end well for any of them.
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>>88876487
>>88876510
>>88876512
She scavenged the repulsor technology from the Inquisitor's lightsabers. How else would she escape Malachor?
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>>88876793
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In Star Wars, can people breathe in space?
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>>88872581

Well, whose a dead little Ugnaught then.
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>>88876695
>Looks leagues better than Boba's clownsuit.
I always thought Boba had a cool design, but the execution didn't look very good.
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>>88876809
Dave Filoni 101, anon. She uses wolves. Really big ones.
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>>88876824
No.
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>>88876842
>Dave Filoni 101, anon. She uses wolves. Really big ones.
With repulsor technology. And they spin. And also they're double sided.
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>>88876854
>Wolves
>needing repulsors to spin
They're wolves. Clearly they know all the good tricks.
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>>88876789
Old mandos could back up that hype, try reading a novel instead of just reading online that karren traviss is shit and rolling with it.

Jaster mereels super commandos were basically Diamond Dogs in space

Boba lead the mandos in a guerillawar against the vong that turned the tide.

Their hype was earned

Mean while deathwatch is just like they were in old cannon, a lame biker gang with lazerguns
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>>88876898
Watch the Featurette >>88875198

Deathwatch were basically EU fags demanding the Mandalorian greatness of the EU be canon again. Dooku offered to help make it canon but betrayed them, then they decided to go back to making it canon themselves with the help of Darth Maul.
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Did Boba Fett get eaten by the Sarlacc and escape 3 times in the new canon like he did in the old EU?
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>>88868119
motherfucker
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>>88876739
>wrong legends mandos, had purely unique armor to a man, with the best of them being amazing strategists
Sabine apparently forged her armor with her family/clan

Amazing strategists come and go, and we haven't seen a storyline where they'd even fit in yet without being shoehorned in.

Mandalores surface was even a blasted wasteland in old legends, just less extreme than in canon

Legends and Canon mandos are the same, minus color symbolism, fake language, basically non-existent standards for joining, and special mango iron. All unimportant to making Mangos a culture of warriors. Clones aren't mando-ish anymore either, a casualty of the status of the Fetts, but I thought those books were tacky anyways.
>>88876898
I read all the Mando stuff in the EU. I'm not bothered by the changes in canon, and I like all of them.

I'm sure we'll see canon mangos be cool again, just with less absurd stuff attached. Hopefully Sabines mando-centric episodes this season will show some mando clans fighting.

Maybe Mereel and Fen Shysa will be recanonized and show up to do cool things with Fen Rau.
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>>88876984
Ives seen the feutrette, it shows that they didn't get the point of why people liked the mandos, and Boba.

And yeah even death watch wishes they could be as cool as EU mandos

its gotta suck being a scrub
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>>88877071
So being a bunch of fancy prancy mary sue klingons in armor is a better fate? Fuck that.

As for the video they make it clear they don't care if you have your prissy rainbow coalition fandalorian armor, but that's not their vision for their canon.
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>>88871274he became a MAN
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>>88877134
Accoding to Sabine only part time
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>>88877123
Its an inferior version, that tons of people ignore

and yes being an actual bad ass is preferable to begin a red shirt with a jetpack
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>>88877071
>it shows that they didn't get the point of why people liked the mandos
Actually it does. Many people(myself included) liked the Mandalorians in their early appearances in the older comics and in KOTOR. Not Traviss's bastardization of them
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>>88877160
I don't
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>>88877160
Yeah, most people just ignore the old EU, you're dead on there.

But some of them COULD be badass, if you gave them half a chance. I mean when they weren't being written so everyone in the galaxy including Jaina Solo was bending over backwards for their superior wank. And least the nu canon lets Mandos still train the clones.
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>>88875069
this need to stop
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>>88877200
Those are the same versions, Some are honorable, others are scum, they all adhere to honor, customize their honor and understand being a mandalorian is more then just where you were born.
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>>88877225
Oh look, they're even covered in stardust.
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>>88877222
They've had years, and the new mandos are still shit (shocker deathwatch sucks)
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>>88877235
>Those are the same versions
Traviss's Mandos are NOT the same as the Mandos depicted in KotOR or the older comics.
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>>88877256
Yeah they are, again try reading a novel before you parrot reddit.

Try reading Open season, and playing kotor 2
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>>88877296
>Yeah they are, again try reading a novel
They absolutely are not. Ever picked up the comics/games recently?

>before you parrot reddit.
I'm not parroting reddit you Travissfag

>Try reading Open season, and playing kotor 2
Open Seasons was not a Traviss-made thing. It was similar to what Traviss did, but not completely.

Still though. KotOR/TSL and the older comics set in the Old Republic era depict Mandalorians in a much better way than what Traviss did.

Canon Mandalorians are using the older version as a basis, not her special snowflake shit.
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New Canon shit will be a clusterfuck within five years. We'll be getting more Jedi in hiding despite TFA's opening crawl, comics that contradict Rebels/Clone Wars, etc. They'll start pumping out stories faster and shit will get way outta hand.
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>>88877335
The Story Group will prevent that stuff from happening.
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>>88877222
Jaina, real talk, should have been the one to go Sith. I could not by Jacen as a Dark Sider at all, after reading all of NJO.
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>>88877253
Old EU was bunch of clown armor weirdos that makes it perfect to self-insert which is why fandalorians enjoy them so much. New canon actually looked at Mandalorians as a true military culture. This meant that the one feature the old fandalorians loved most, that everyone could have a personalized multi-colored suit of armor, was no longer canon. These were actual goddamn uniforms of professional goddamn soldiers, not a fucking pride parade.

If you want super awesome soldier dudes with customized armor ironically you look to the Clone Army. They started out as extremely uniform both in behavior and, yes, uniforms. But their Jedi Generals were indulgent and pushed them towards expressing individuality, which shows in their armor and vehicles. Come the Empire when the Jedi have been replaced with real generals it's back to strict regulations for the military.
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>>88877335
>We'll be getting more Jedi in hiding despite TFA's opening crawl
I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to that.
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>>88877321
There using Death watch as a model, I.E Not what they are supposed to be.

Travis wrote them them the same way, Right down to the special metal, and war droids. and being a match for jedi.
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>>88877335
>this is what EUfags want to believe

We heard the same thing over and over.

"They'll never consider the Cartoon important, Rogue One is replacing it!"

"It will be a clusterfuck in one year... th-three years... F-Five... Ten?"

Sorry, but they're actually doing it right this time.
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>>88877357
>Jaina combines her mandowanking with the Dark Side
>becomes modern era Revan
Huh. Yeah, I can see that.
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>>88877362
>>88877362
They were a military, and Nomadic culture you dumbshit, they weren't north fucking korea, they were vikings/mongols, Personal skill, and doing what worked for you.

Not storm troopers with jet packs
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>>88877335
>Maul is still alive by the end of episode 9
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>>88877387
The handling of the Solo children is one of the biggest bungles of the EU.

Jacen should have died.
Jaina should have become the villain.
Anakin should have been the hero.

Lucas, ironically, fucked it up. He mandated that Anakin had to die because he didn't like the idea of there being two hero Anakins.

But this is how it SHOULD have been.
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>>88877395
Absolutely nothing in what you said explains why they had to paint themselves like armored whores. Absolutely nothing you said EXCUSES that this is what they were in the EU.
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>>88877241
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>>88877416
>Maul is snoke
>he's so old now his skin is faded, his tats have faded, and his horns fell off as he went Zabrak-bald
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>>88877395
Stormtroopers with jetpacks are cool, as is space north korean/mongols

I still think it's silly people even care this much about a fictional race of people based off one guy who appeared into four scenes in two movies
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>>88877476
Oh fucking hell Christ almighty

They would totally do this, wouldn't they? I can absolutely see them doing this. Fuck me, they would do exactly this.
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>>88877357
It would actuallt have worked better to considering her relationship with Jag.
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I feel that Legends was so clustered that it was more like several separate canons that were poorly linked together in the 2000s.

>original Marvel comics canon
>KOTOR canon
>90s novels and comics
>2000s novels and comics
>Darkhorse comics canon

Anyone else agree? Add more separate canons.
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>>88877486
"My name, young Rey, is Snoke. MAUL Snoke. My mother was the mighty witch known as Talzin Snoke. That's right, she took back her maiden name after my shit father Darth Sidious dumped her and ran off with me!"
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>>88877501
>Poor Little Sith Lord VIII: The Passion Awakens
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>>88877463
stop shipping them
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>>88877368
>There using Death watch as a model, I.E Not what they are supposed to be.
Incorrect:

>"Now, all the history of Mandalore that you knew prior to the Clone Wars - it does exist. It absolutely exists. Were they a mercenary people? Yes, they absolutely are. Did they fight against the Jedi? Yes, they absolutely did. Is there a big battle where there is a cataclysm between them and the Jedi? Yes. Have we pushed that idea - that the cataclysm was so great, that the surface of Mandalore was laid to waste? Absolutely, we did. Because, to George, the Mandalorians - above all, dating back to ESB - are Supercommandos. They're a race of people that were a military. They can't be so vagabond as they appeared in the EU. They can't be this group of people that are vastly different in paint job and paint scheme because - if you do that, they look too much, immediately, like a bunch of Boba Fetts. It robbed Boba Fett of his uniqueness. We needed a military. We needed an army. They have a very uniform look. They are trying to bring back the ancient Mandalorian ways of being the Supercommando and regain dominion for their mythology, their stories - which is what you could call - is what the EU is. That they are a warrior race and eventually mercenaries."

- - - - - - - -

>Travis wrote them them the same way
She didn't. Her Mandalorians were Mary Sues. They had it all: super space warriors, idyllic agrarian life, perfectly egalitarian society, no-frills-but-still-perfectly-fulfilling family life, fiercely independent but always (always!) working together when need be, etc.

In KotOR/TSL/comics, they had flaws. They were a warrior culture, but they weren't perfect.

>>88877479
>I still think it's silly people even care this much about a fictional race of people based off one guy who appeared into four scenes in two movies

Well actually, Boba came out of the idea of having Imperial Supercommandos. They were scrapped and the design was turned into him, a bounty hunter.
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>>88877498
That's exactly how it was. There was never a consistent canon.

They tried in the 2000's to make it work as a proper continuity, and Leeland Chee made a tier system to try to keep everything "canon" while still filtering out continuity errors.

But ultimately it was a clusterfuck. Stuff made pre-prequels that didn't fit, or stuff made by the ignorant or unaware that failed to fit thematically. Plus the fact that it was so huge, without any creative team overseeing it, that authors simply couldn't know everything on their own to avoid continuity errors.

This is why there is now a Story Group, and it's part of the reason they started the Canon continuity mostly from scratch.
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>>88877498
Well, yeah, more or less. There was a lot less control, especially early on, because there was no cohesive vision, just a bunch of different authors stressing their own views of the way they thought things should be. Rather than try to tidy this mess Leeland Chee basically shrugged his way through the whole thing.

Which is really not fair to Chee at all, it's mostly a joke. I don't think I can blame him for not really trying too hard in trying to make so many different stories to fit together. One man couldn't handle it, which is why they have a whole group - and it's starting from the beginning rather than wading into a bunch of existing material.
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>>88877535
I think what people hate most about the new Mandalorians is that there is a tad too much realism in what you'd actually get with a mighty space warrior society. They've fought throughout the years since before the Republic. They've won battles and lost battles but above all they endure, they survive. But their homeworld is a barren rock. Other territory like Concord Dawn has a massive chunk blown off the planet. What wasn't destroyed directly in war was destroyed themselves to fuel their war machine, like Concordia.

Who the hell knows what Kalevala looks like.
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>>88877602
i think.....
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>>88877602
I think a lot of the objection to the TCW Mandos is the very idea that they've been subjugated. People are entranced by the KOTOR, Jango/Boba vision of the Mandos, who are always fighting and winning. They didn't like the idea that the Mandalorians had been whipped.

And, to be fair, neither did Death Watch.
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>>88877602
I see it
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>>88877660
Basically this. People heard "Mandalorian" and "pacifist" in the same sentence back in 2010 and threw a shitfit about how this was an insult to Mandalorian culture and how Lucas/Filoni should be ashamed of themselves... even though, ironically, the plotline of the season 2 arc where this all started was about old warrior-minded Mandalorians thinking this exact thing.
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>>88877660
I don't know if whipped is the right idea. I'm sure they always had some level of civilian in their society. Some people had to be the workers, the farmers, the telephone cleaners.

Even in the old EU they could lose. Revan was hardly their first loss, after all, and he wouldn't be their last. In the new canon if you extrapolate that over the ages the damage of their warrior lifestyle on their own territory adds up. Compounded over the generations eventually enough people get fed up. Satine, bless her little Maul stabbed heart, had a point that they should turn their stubborn will to fight and never give in towards conquering their own violent impulses, at least to rebuild. It actually worked at least for Concordia and how does Governor Vizsla repay her? Betrayal and a new quest for conquest that ends up plunging their homeworld into civil war and finally at the bootheels of the Empire.
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>>88877738
Well, it's a matter of living up to your idiom, to be fair.

Growing up in the 90s and 00s, enmeshed in the EU, the Mandalorians were one of the three major "have to" factions, the other two being the Jedi and the Sith.

The Jedi have to strive for justice and peace.
The Sith have to strive for dominion and evil.
The Mandalorians have to conquer and wage war.

And that's just the way things were. Like the rising and setting of the sun.
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>>88874280

Jedi Outcast and Academy are tied, for different reasons.
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>>88877379

I was never an EUfag, I hated most of it. But they had "tiers of canon" before, and just because their approach to keeping shit in check is different this time doesn't mean it'll work.
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>>88877684
There is a bit of irony in that one reason for the pacifism would have been to explain why the Mandalorians were sitting out the first major galaxy wide throwdown in over a thousand years. I honestly think they would have been happy seeing Dooku and Yoda fighting to see who could fellate the ruling Mandalore hard enough to get him to join their side and thus ensure victory.

But would the great Mandalorians bow to Jedi Generals? Haha, fuck that! So clearly they would be CIS! Oh wait, that means they lose the war and ultimately get fucked over by the Empire. Well shit.

Even when they tried to stay neutral it rebounded on them in the end and they got the worst of it AND are now getting fucked over by the Empire.

Got to love it. Apparently Gar Saxon thinks he can cut a deal with the Empire that will Make Mandalore Great Again but he doesn't realize it will come at the cost of their cultural identity as they turn into just another cog in Sidious' war machine. Sure they may crank out superior soldiers but they'll still be Imperial through and through. Mandalore as a great sovereign entity unto itself is not part of Sidious' plan, at all. Even the Hutts found out they can't do shit in their own space without Vader showing up and choking Jabba out.
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>>88877416
I posted it a few days ago, but I'd forgive everything they do in the ST if episode 9 ends with Sam Witwer with a fake beard and makeup telling campfire stories to Starkiller and Pablo
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Alright fags, whip out those fanfictions.

How would you do Episode 8?
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>>88877869
It is going to work.

Looking at how they have built Star Wars the past 4 years vs how they did it in the EU should be more than enough to restore confidence that they're putting effort into making this work, planning literally years in advance.

The notion that the continuity is going to somehow collapse into itself within the decade is actually just silly.
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>>88874884
>A whole bunch of Y Wings, ARC 170s and Z95s ended up in the scrap heap after Knightfall
It still hurts
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>>88877908
they had huge stock of them, since they were used as late as endor

and i am guessing that either OG Y-wings or a next gen model will be used in the sequel trilogy
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>>88877869
The Canon Tiers were never an attempt to make a grand unified canon, rather they were the exact opposite. They were detailing multiple "canon universes" with G-Canon, Lucas' canon, being the only real canon. Everything else was just a placeholder until one of his stories overrode it, which did happen from time to time.

This didn't mean that things were left completely wild. There WAS an attempt to keep things consistent, as much as possible, but this still didn't mean it was ever as real a part of Star Wars as the movies. While George didn't read the EU he at least had people to catalog it, and could look up names or concepts to make sure it hadn't been done, or look for something similar. Sometimes he would elevate lower canon into G-Canon. Sometimes, yes, he would write over it completely.

The lower canon existed at his leisure and could be wiped out, all of it, for his pleasure.
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Rey is deeply frustrated by Luke's training. She learns a great deal, and grows powerful, but his Old Order teachings don't seem to assuage her restless heart and her hatred of Kylo for killing Han, whom she actually did like as a father figure.

Meanwhile, Kylo has grown more powerful in the Dark Side, but he too is haunted. Han's ghost troubles him in his dreams. He is visited by Anakin's Force ghost several times, urging him to turn away from the dark path and seek the light.

Through twists and turns, and some sort of plot involving Finn and Poe being bros, Rey and Kylo confront each other again. Kylo bests her for most of the fight, but then Rey gives vent to her frustration. Fueled by anger, she overpowers Kylo, who in a flash realizes how wrong he has been. He was never meant to follow the darkness. He's a Solo, a Skywalker, and he's destined to follow the light.

He claims his heritage in a moment of affirmation, and, newly redeemed, begs Rey not to make his mistake.

Rey glares at him, takes a deep breath... and cuts his head off.

"I don't need you or anyone!"

She rages off into the dark.

Roll credits.
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>>88877899
Luke reveals he has been training a school of Jedi in secret, after what happened with Kylo.

Poe and Finn stay together the entire movie

Rey proves difficult to train, and is eventually captured and taken to Snoke

Luke's Jedi fight the Knights of Ren. Kylo has conflicting moral dilemma throughout the movie, and ends up helping the Jedi.

And all of this is set in interesting and new/underused locations

TLDR:
>Finn/Poe Bro-Op sub plot
>Kylo goes good, Rey goes bad
>Jedi still exist, Luke didn't fail (Fuck you JJ you fucking slimy cunt)
>Proper Dark side vs Light side group saber fight
>And better locations

That's all I want. Salvaging the sequel era feels like an impossible task right now, but this would be at the very least, making the most out of a bad situation. These are my hopes for VIII
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>>88877952

>The lower canon existed at his leisure and could be wiped out, all of it, for his pleasure.

And people hate this guy instead of loving him. He's IRL Sheev
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>>88877967
>rey is told to lift a rock, and odes it easily
>rey is then told to lift lukes X-wing
>rey smirks and lifts the X-wing easily
>luke gives a knowing smile and asks to see the interior of her lightsaber, using the force
>rey slowly screws the top off, before claiming it will take too long
>luke glances at the lightsaber, causing it to expand into all of its component parts, like in a book illustration, before immediately reconstructing it
>gives a short speech about finesse over power
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>>88878010
Your point being? Because plenty of people seem to love Sheev.
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>>88877903

Eh, they'll fuck it up somehow
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>>88878028
I'm not going to say that a mistake wont be made eventually, and they'll iron out any problems when we get to that.

But the notion that the Canon continuity is going to be even a fraction of the clusterfuck of the EU just feels ridiculous.

It almost seems like some particularly salty EU fans wish that would happen, as a "I told you so, EU is still better!" kind of shitfling (not that I am accusing you in particular of this)
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>>88878054
I think that would be a waste of time, since EU folks can still claim honest superiority in terms of quality output.

The nucanon has yet to give us anything as good as the heights of the old EU. Nothing in the nucanon is as good as the KOTOR games, as the Tales of the Jedi comics, as the X-Wing books, as Genndy's Clone Wars cartoon. The EU has the nucanon whipped in terms of quality. There's a lot of garbage, true, but the gems shine very bright.
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>>88878013
I was expecting you to say,
"Hey Rey, look down the lightsaber. What do you see?"
>she looks
>Luke flips it on
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>>88878093
Don't bother try to tell me you arent baiting
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>>88878118

That was a different guy, I'm the one who said they'd fuck up eventually.

I'm just bored and fishing for (You)s though. I do expect some silly explanations like Force Kicks and contradictions out the ass in the next few years though.
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>>88878118
Why would I bait? It's the truth. Do you see anything in the nucanon as good as the examples I listed?
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>>88878132
I suspected it was another person

>>88878140
>"My opinion is the objective truth!"
>KOTOR is good meme
>Genndy's 2-hour mediocre cartoon is better than the 6 Seasons of TCW, bullshit

Yeah, no, fuck no. Stop this shit, I am not going to humor such nonsense.
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>>88878169
>>Genndy's 2-hour mediocre cartoon is better than the 6 Seasons of TCW, bullshit

You can absolutely gargle my fucking cum, you pleb. I never once dissed TCW, and I freely admit it's a good cartoon. But Genndy's Clone Wars shorts are masterpieces of visual storytelling. They're brilliant showpieces of how to tell a story in a handful of minutes without rushing or cramming things. They're gorgeous examples of color and art and sound. Don't you dare diss them.
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>>88878216
Maybe mediocre was harsh. I liked the cartoon, and loved it when I was younger.

But it is not better that TCW, not even close.
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>>88878010
He IS the creator of the story, even if yes other people helped immensely in making it a success. Still it was his vision, it wouldn't have existed without him.

He was well within his rights to do what he wanted with it. Yes, he allowed others to tell their own stories in a way that would reach a wider audience (a lot of this was pre-internet fanfiction sites, after all) and get paid as long as he got paid. They commissioned works as well and hired authors to tell stories for the fans, but this didn't mean they were the same as LUCAS' stories. Not by a long shot.

And it wasn't as if he used his financial empire for ill. Lucasfilm grew from his stories and he in turn oversaw a great many benefits. He had his own sound studios and effects studios created from his fortunes. Pixar, yes, THAT Pixar, began as part of Lucasfilm. We got games and comics and stories.

Not all of it his own work, but all of it owing existence to him nevertheless. And while he's not incapable of missteps, and doesn't always listen to the sound advice of those around him, things still worked. He got a lot of shit in his later life for things like Jar Jar and the memetic hatred of the Prequels, but from all I've seen he's managed to keep himself fairly humble. He ran Skywalker Ranch as a kind of thinktank for creative minds and never took the credit of others. I'm glad he found success with TCWs, though I find it ironic how many people (myself included back in the day) believed he had nothing to do with it and greater minds were creating superior stories. He told the stories but left it in the hands of others to hammer out a finished project. He seems to have left some very worthy people behind to carry on, even if it isn't without his own lament. And for myself I do kind of miss him. I'm glad they let him tour their progress during Rogue One's pre-production and he even left some input here and there.
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>>88877899

Just throwing out some ideas here. Unfortunately they don't actually make a coherent or entertaining story

>Luke has trained a lot of people in the ways of the force and the use of a lightsaber, Kylo Ren killed a bunch of students but that just made them scatter after years of teaching. It's not just Luke again.
>Luke reveals he went into hiding recently to discourage people from seeking him out to learn from him, and risk putting them in danger.
>After finishing his training, Kylo kills Snoke in the finale and becomes the big bad for Ep 9. The best villains in popculture need to stop being lackeys to a less interesting one
>People go from idolizing Luke to questioning him when he thinks Kylo can still be redeemed. They either aren't aware of how Dark Side corruption works or they don't think lightning can strike twice
>Since Han is dead, Old Man Luke and Lando bro it up together

And let's really fanfic it up

>Rey's parents are Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors
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>>88878224
>I'm glad they let him tour their progress during Rogue One's pre-production and he even left some input here and there.
Yeah, it was also nice to hear he actually liked it. Interestingly, Mark Hamill also liked it, whereas he's been all but shitting on TFA.
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>>88878241
I think he feels it was kinda lame that his only part, after all that working out and training to get himself into shape, was just giving Rey the ol' stink eye.

But he's a good sport. Man though I hope the rumors are wrong about Ep8 starting off immediately where the original ended. Just for the opening crawl along it would be awkward.
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>>88878241
Yeah, he kept saying TFA was "just another summer movie" and "like the Transformers movies"

He knew it had absolutely nothing new to offer people and was trying to divert expectations.
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>Rey walks in on Luke and Mara Jade having old people sex
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>>88878313
>Hey EU guys, we finally got yer canon Mara Jade right here!
Nice.
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>>88878313
And we have just the species to make her, too.

But why would Luke marry someone who looks like the Emperor on a good day? Well why not!
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>>88878337
>>88878313

>Rey defeats Kylo by showing him a holo recording of Uncle Luke and Aunt Mara banging
>Luke's hairy old man buttcheeks flexing as he thrusts
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>>88878353
At what point does she tell him that Luke is his real dad? Frankly it explains a ton of Ben's issues.
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>>88878387
>Kylo is the result of a night of incestous drunken passion

Ewok booze, never again.
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>>88878427
Yeah, no kidding. It's the real reason why Wedge refuses to show up. He can't stand to look Chewie in the face anymore.
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>>88878427

Incest in Star Wars isn't frowned upon, it's canon.


Trust me.
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>>88878449
Oh Vos, not you too...
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>there are people ITT who haven't even figured out the secret of force shrink

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Art_of_the_Small
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>>88876793
I hope you choke to death in his dick then
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>>88877899
Snoke is Plagueis, everything else is irrelevant
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>>88878551
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>>88878118
>>88878169
>being this much of a wrong, Disney shilling faggot

Nothing in nu-EU matches Legends.
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Padme loved Anakin even after he killed sandpeople and Jedi. Just how hmgood was he in bed?
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>>88878592
Go away
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>>88878602
Ask Ahsoka
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>>88878641
you sure showed me
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Did Tarkin ever ask Vader for piggy backs?
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The Mon Calamari ships must be a bitch to maintain.
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>>88872751
Those are better than vong worldships
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>>88878746
in-universe it is the trade off for their modular and customizable design
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>>88873925
>That's something called a choreography mistake.
The point of a tonfa is to block strikes in that area.
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Someone tell me why the the Emperor paid for and built this thing, despite the Death Star plans already existing.
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>>88876024
>not ''tis the season then.jpg'
Come on, step it up.
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>>88871274
Maul
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>>88869685
>whole point of it was to get rid of a useless, and frankly boring and annoying, character
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>>88879043
>the Emperor
Well he's not the Emperor yet and I'd hazard it was funded by the CIS.

Sheev's plans weren't just against the Jedi. The war broke the backs of the most powerful, resourceful private entities in the galaxy. Their ability to flood the galaxy with ships and droids was broken, then their assets and holdings seized. The powerful Trade Federation, the Banking Clans, the Techno Union, all gone the way of Poggle and Geonosis: extinction.

At least some of the droids survived, though, and soon maybe some of the Geonosians will be able to live again.
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>>88873533
>JJ Abrams
>Shows a picture of Watto
It's like poetry
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>>88879043
>Someone tell me why the the Emperor paid for and built this thing, despite the Death Star plans already existing.
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>>88877498
You are, of course, correct. Trying to pretend that all EU could happen in a single timeline was always stupid. Shit needed order and was due for a reboot when The Phantom Menace came out.

They waited too long.
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>>88879134
its the flagship, designed to lead the fleet into combat

it is designed for power projection, it can win a fight simply by showing up
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>>88879174
TPM might have been a good time to exert more pressure, but might it have been better when they began Shadows of the Empire and put an effort into making it a solid starting point for a firmer, more cohesive EU?

Of course hindsight is 20/20 but at the same time who knows how or if it would have worked.
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>>88879187
>it can win a fight simply by showing up
Tell that to the Green Leader, buddy.
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>>88879187
The Executor was created AFTER the First Death Star was destroyed, and on top of that it wasn't even the first Super Star Destroyer.

Tagge's first flapship was the SSD Annihilator, which actually survived the Empire but wound up captured by some pirates in Aftermath:Life Debt. Yes, the one with the zhees and xirs, or whatever the fuck they were.
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>>88879203
the rebels were not going to hit and run on that day, they were going to stand and fight

and it was a million-to-one chance that they were not able to intensify forward firepower in time
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>>88869685
Don't know about the fight. But the point of the episode was to kill off a good meme waifu.

You will be missed big hat lady.
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>>88879255
>win a fight simply by showing up
>but that one time it didn't and the whole thing blowing up was a total fluke
You don't even know if intensifying forward firepower would have worked. Might have, might not. The Alliance still knocked down its shields, which is an impressive effort and something else may have fucked it up regardless.

You might as well complain about how those Star Destroyers over Scarif would have been perfectly fine if they hadn't been ion bombed and then Hammerhead rammed. I mean sure, they probably would have been, but they weren't.
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>>88879282
>>88879255
When you have half the Imperial starfleet with you and a fully armed and operational Death Star to boot, you don't have a lot of excuses for your fiery deaths.
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>>88879258
Hey anon, it's a new year. You should be out trying to find yourself a fresh new waifu. That old one isn't getting any less dead, you know.
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>Time for some fancy tricks, Anakin
>That's what I was thinking!
>*spins*
P O T T E R Y
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>>88879306
But I really liked her anon.

She was not as good as pic related, but she was a solid cutie patootie.
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>>88879306
What new waifu? They've introduced a new qt just to kill her off too.

They want me to suffer.
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>>88879344
You still have Naare.

Dammit, you all still have Naare!
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>>88879354
Dark Side waifus, best waifus.
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>>88879349
You can still save her!

Time to fire up that change.org petition so Jyn Erso is saved by the Force via that stupid necklace she wore but which never really mattered to the plot like it looked like it was going to.

Barring that, write Kathleen Kennedy some scathing letters. Be sure to write it in official Mando letters so she knows how fucking serious this is.
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>>88879349
>"Lord Filonious, we have broken Anon's spirit"
>"Good, good...hehehe"
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>>88872144
That twi'lek is the hottest yet.
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>>88879327
>Anakin, spinning is not flying!
>but it's a good trick
wow
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Replaying the Executor level on Dark Forces. Those TIE pilots give no fucks, dropping into a hangar being cleared by a known rebel and they act like it's business as usual
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>>88875865
Jar Jar was animated based on Kung fu style.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUn3nohOtVQ

Watching this is surreal, he looks so young and still full of life and not bitter.
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>>88872072
>I don't think so, at least not from Yoda's line. Honestly what Yoda said doesn't mean much since even if they were still alive Yoda sure as hell wasn't going to tell Luke.

He said that Luke was the only one who could pass on the teaching of the jedi, right? that could simply mean that any other remaining Jedi left the order behind. Kanan and Ezra could easily end up becoming Grey jedi and the students of Bendu
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>>88875069
There's also Tarkin/Krennic : Tarkrennic
People will ship anything
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>>88879876
That's absolutely disgusting.Tarkatine is patrician
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>>88879836
I genuinely love Lucas and I always will. What a wonderful man...
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>>88879919
Tarkatine?
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>>88879836
>The comments below that video
I hate the people who hate Lucas. Am I turning to the Dark Side?
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>>88880102
If that's dark side, then I am right there with you brother.

They sit behind their computer and needlessly shit on someone who dedicated his life to making something truly special to fans who never deserved it. Disgusting people.
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>>88880013
>>88880102
Same with Hayden i could never hate them and yet the whole world blames them for "killing" Star Wars for 10 years
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>>88880102
>then there's the fact he used the actors likenesses to make billions of dollars on merchandise of which they got zero.
>Lucas is a money hungry sow and he's NOT a nice guy and the latest rumor is that he's attacking Disney, probably cuz of Episode 8s success.
>people calling Lucas greedy and money hungry
Jesus Christ.
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>>88880210
Didn't he even put his own money into the production of TCW to make it as good as possible?
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>>88880234
That's my point.
These guys are ignorant as fuck.
They don't even know that Lucas donated all that money that Disney gave him, to charity.
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>>88880234
By the end of the series it was virtually entirely funded by Lucas
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>>88880200
Hayden seems bro tier honestly

>>88880210
>people calling Lucas greedy and money hungry
This one baffles me, genuinely.

The misconception that Lucas made Star Wars with only toy sales is ridiculous. Spending 20 minutes watching BTS should be enough to realize that Lucas never took toy sales into consideration when choosing designs from concept art.

He was constantly making sure a lot of the profits to Star Wars was going to charity. And he donated most of the $4 Billion he got for selling Lucasfilm, to charity too.

As for TCW, he was pumping obscene amounts of money into that show, even after (according to Pablo) it wasn't getting a satisfactory regular viewership on Cartoon Network.

Lucas was never in it for the money. He had more than enough money to live comfortably for the rest of his life just from doing A New Hope. Lucas just wanted to tell his stories, and make his pet projects the absolute best they can be.

When he realized he was no longer going to enjoy making Star Wars, he sold the company so that other people could take the wheel, donated the money to charity, and his most recent project is trying to get a movie museum open so the next generation of children can be inspired to make movies as he did.

Lucas is a fucking saint, standing on the heap of shit that is Hollywood, and I will forever have the upmost respect for the man. No amount of "b-but Jar Jar ruined my childhood!" or "The special editions suck!" will ever change my opinion of him. Not everything he did was perfect, but he was always justified in his decisions, and had good intentions.
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>>88880259
Yep. Supposedly $1 million per episode, which I think makes it the most expensive produces "childrens" show in history.

According to Pablo, it wasn't even getting the ratings on CN they needed, which is why Disney wanted to start a new show from scratch.

If it was literally anybody other than Lucas, it would have been cancelled by Season 4 I bet.
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>>88880288
This anon gets it.
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If Lucas gave away the 4billion he got from the sale how much does he have left?

Hasn't he spent a mint on that museum he wants to open?
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>>88880353
He gave almost all of the 4 billion to charity, but he still probably is rich enough to afford whatever crazy ideas he comes up with next

His biggest problem is finding a place to build the museum. I hear some hippies were protesting against it when he tried to build it in San Francisco (I think?)
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>>88880288
There's no point in paying attention to them because if you go and see the comments, you'll see that they defend Episode 7 and 8 while giving Lucas shit for "using" actors to boost the box office.

>>88880320
Yeah, some sources said that it ranged from $1 and $2 million per episode.
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