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ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH

Beyonder backstory! Starting with some Lee/Kirby FF. Because dammit I can't help myself.

Shaper of Worlds: >>88626231
(The Cosmic) Kubik: >>88626231
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>>88771383
Whelp, I already fucked up:
Cosmic Cube/Kubik: >>88705186
I GOTSA GOOD FEELIN ABOUT TODAY
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>>88771435
Nota bene: I've chucked in some last-minute extra stuff to start because, like with the last thread, there ain't a lot of material and I like being thorough.
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>>88771472
NB#2: I won't be able to post tomorrow so I'm aiming to get this done way quicker than the last two. I ain't even read some of this myself, to save on time.
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>>88771501
Therrrrrre might still be breaks though.
WAY SHORTER BREAKS rest assured.
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>>88771527
Early warning: I ain't doing Hickman stuff.
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>>88771549
Well... maybe a few pages o' Hickman stuff...
SOMEBODY STOP ME
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>>88771568
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>>88771383
I will read this after the Byrne run
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>>88771578
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>>88771611
And then OP died.
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>>88771527
Why didn't The Watcher just show up at the Baxter Building and warn them instead of doing this bizarre teleporting fireball?

>Some other dimension
Reed, he Watcher's house is on the Moon, you're a dumbass.
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>>88771568
>Johnny doesn't know what molecules are
That's what happens when you skip high school classes to go superheroing. Then again, he probably should have learned about molecules in Primary school unless things were different back in the 60s.
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>>88771611
>>88772018
Sorry, a family friend's over for New Year's and food was ready. Took longer than expected.
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>>88772693
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>>88772723
>>88772181
Can't remember the issue, but there's an early Lee/Kirby FF story where Johnny uses his heat powers to make a 'heat mirage' reflection.
Of an object on the street outside the building he's in.
When he's on the 100th floor.

The science in this gets soft enough to sleep on.
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>>88772839
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>>88772723
That's not how magnets work Stan.
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>>88772871
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>>88771549
This would be only the first of many times when Uatu blatantly breaks his oath.
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>>88771549
>Acme
Whatever happened to the Marvel Universe's Acme? We don't see them around anymore, did Stark, Osborn and Roxxon drive them out of business?
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>>88772902
>>88772884
You see?!
YOU SEE?!
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>>88772960
>>88772955
I'd imagine WB did.
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>>88772982
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I love you OP. FF is such an under-appreciated gem these days. Mostly because casuals find it hard to get into.

Thanks for reminding me the FF can be really good with the right writer.
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>>88773027
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>>88773053
>>88773038
Downloading this issue to start with was a last-minute idea so glad it was worth it.
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>>88772839
Early Johnny was such a badass. He was always out superheroing because he loved being a good guy. Constantly experimenting with his powers. Hell the original Frightful Four were his very own rogues gallery before they teamed up to destroy the FF entirely.

Sure there was immaturity to the guy but he had lots of potential. Unfortunately many writers just default him to an immature jock type hero who won't be able to creatively beat his villains without Reeds help.

The guy aint no read but he had spunk.
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>>88773084
>>88773038
I'm not that into the FF personally, since I figure everything that made them THE WORLD'S GREATEST COMIC MAGAZINE has since been carved up & partitioned off. Marvel has multiple team books, cosmic books, comfy books, event books etc so the experience they provide's not really special anymore.
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>>88773145
>>88773038
That said random issues have been cropping up more & more in my reading lists, so I'm increasingly tempted to dive in just because.
I've got the "Great American Novel" website open in another tab atm, I'll see how I feel after giving that a thumb through.
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>>88773179
shet
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>>88773198
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>>88773245
Molecule Man's next few appearnces technically weren't him, so I'm skipping over them.
I downloaded the story where he came back in the flesh though. Anyone interested or should I skip that too?
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>>88772839
He does the heat mirage thing at least twice.
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>>88773373
I'm talking about the dynamite one. There was demolition work going on outside the Baxter Building and he "reflected" it into the room to psyche out whoever they were fighting.
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>>88773286
>>88773245
Isn't this blatant interfering on Uatu's part? He's not even pretending to be a neutral observer here.
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>>88774168
Once I read it myself I'll get back to you on that.
Any preference re: that MM story? It's only 2 issues. And heaavily features Tigra.
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>>88774185
SPOILERS ANON
DELET THIS
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>>88774217
Oops, oh well, it's a 30-something year old story anyway.
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>>88774217
Ah shit I just realized one of the "technically weren't him" stories was another Man-Thing/Thing-Thing Team-Up. Would've been cool to post for inter-thread continuity.
Ah well. Maybe afterwards.
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>>88774256
>>88774250
There's a box in the top corner of your posts and Delete button at the bottom of the page.
I was mostly joking but it'd be nice is all
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>>88774275
shet
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>>88774293
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>>88774318
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>>88774275
Believe it or not, I didn't even know one could delete their own posts, now I do, thanks.
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>>88774328
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>>88774256
>Where's her tail, mommy?
Don't worry kid, soon enough artists will give her a tail for extra furry points.
When did they start drawing her with a tail?
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>>88774293
>Lady! He didn't mean any harm, publicly groping women's butts is perfectly legal after all.
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>>88774403
>>88774353
np. I found it by accident myself.
You can do it with threads too, though there's a time-limit. Starts a minute after posting and ends... I dunno.
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>>88774436
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>>88774472
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>>88774328
I can only imagine how much complaining about SJWs /co/ would do if this page came out today.
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>>88774472
Silver Surfer acts like only humans are like this. I've seen enough Marvel aliens to know most of them are exactly like this, if not worse.
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>>88774493
captchaaaaa
you shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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>>88774621
Panel 4's body-borrowing is why I skipped ahead btw. "Technically" and all that.
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>>88774663
Humans are especial desu.
If I'd done the Kree-Skrull War in the last storytime after all I'd have a ready-made example to point to.
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>>88774678
>>88774535
Other, better-advanced aliens all shit a brick over humans, they've got some kind of genetic willpower that they can't match.
Think TTGL Spiral Power or Tumblrmeme's Determination.
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>>88774663
Thank you Silver Surfer!
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>>88774715
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>>88774715
I meant more in the sense that the Sufer acts like only humans are greedy and violent, when the vast majority of aliens we see are even more greedy and violent.
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>>88774737
>>88774510
Pfhahahaha that third panel's golden.
I'mma have a lot of fun with that one.
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>>88774779
>>88774748
I getcha.
And I'm saying humans are ESPECIALLY greedy & violent!
It's how that genetic jargon expresses itself. Either that or Surfer can just TELL, because cosmic senses.
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>>88774807
>And I'm saying humans are ESPECIALLY greedy & violent!
Tell that to the Badoon.
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>>88774807
>>88774410
I... don't, know now that you mention it.
She DOES have one nowadays right? My heads going all hazy thinking about it.
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>>88774840
Yes, she's had a tail for a while. The earliest instance I can think of is from Busiek/Perez's run.
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>>88774840
>>88774434
BIKINIS ARE NOT CONSENT
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>>88774898
>>88774831
Nobody gives a shit about the Badoon.
Seriously though I think reptilian aliens are a completely different evolutionary branch to other humanoid aliens. Englehart covered it. Something about Celestials.
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>>88774923
>Tentacle bondage on a furry
Comic, what are you doing?
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>>88774923
>>88774889
Maybe it was in that West Coast/Solo Avegners story where she literally got turned into a cat.
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>>88774952
Shooter's got weird kinks.
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>>88774952
I believe you're right, that's probably when it happened.
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>>88774972
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>>88774972
Was this the first time that the Boardthe shield and Mjolnir were destroyed by the bad guy to show how powerful he was? Or jobbing for lack of a better word.
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>>88774972
What did MM mean by the shield being "the weirdest of all"?
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>>88775000
>>88775000
>>88774993
I don't have an excuse for not remembering: I read it just a few moths ago.
And I only saved stuff that I could give Elder Scrolls filenames.
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>>88775105
>>88775070
It was made of 'MERICA
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>>88775125
Alternatively, the whole unique Vibranium alloy thing.
Maybe they hadn't revealed that in canon yet and this was the first hint that they would.
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>>88775157
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>>88773145
>I figure everything that made them THE WORLD'S GREATEST COMIC MAGAZINE has since been carved up & partitioned off. Marvel has multiple team books, cosmic books, comfy books, event books etc so the experience they provide's not really special anymore.
No offense, but you should probably read it first and then form an opinion.
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>>88775027
>>88775181
Shit I'm a Thorfag I should know the answer to this...
I... thiiiiiiiiiiiiink it got destroyed once before Simonson? Not molecularly disintergerated, though.
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>>88775214
Also I hate the word "jobbing"... because I only ever see it applied to actual characters, not genuine "jobbers".
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>>88775249
It's funny how THIS is how Cap first found out that Tony Stark was Iron Man.
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>>88775249
>>88775185
Read the next post too bruh.
Maybe gimme your two cents on that Great American Novel thing, if you've heard of it.
I've read a fair number of arcs here & there already (Kirby, Buscema, Byrne, Simonson, Claremont, even Waid) but none of it's really grabbed me.
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>>88775306
>>88775300
Did they get mind-wiped later, or did Tony only come out to people one-by-one?
Carol didn't know uintl Busiek's 90s/00s run.
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>>88775474
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>>88775336
He initially came out to people one-by-one. Then he mind-wiped everyone on Earth into forgetting and went back to coming out to people one-by-one. Then he made his identity public and that was the end of that.
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>>88775249
Donald Blake's explanation is weird. By this point in time, he already knew that Donald Blake was a creation of Odin to teach Thor a lesson, he was always Thor.
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>>88775548
OHHHHHH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>88775634
I'm counting pages and am starting to think that maybe these issues were a HORRIBLE IDEA
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>>88775651
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>>88775651
That shrink would come real handy now, Molecule Man is now crazier than ever, only now he's even more powerful.
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>>88775591
This is dated 1982, when'd the Eternals Saga happen?
He starts considering himself a separate entity in that.
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>>88775690
I was gonna skim over Secret Wars before the meat & taters part of the storytime. Just some establishing pages to contextualize some things.
Anyone wanna request any scenes they've liked/heard-of whilst I'm at it?
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>>88775684
They should get the guy that worked on Bob.>>88775566
>Then he mind-wiped everyone on Earth into forgetting and went back to coming out to people one-by-one.
Crossing?
>Then he made his identity public and that was the end of that.
Civil War?
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>>88775730
SCRATCH THAT I'VE ONLY GOT LIKE 3 SPACES OUTRIGHT
AVENGERS WAS DEFINITELY A MISTAKE
FUCK
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>>88775768
It wasn't The Crossing. He used Mentallo's super mind-control satellite to do it.
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Okay I'm just gonna suck it up and ask.
Is EVERYONE familiar with Shooter's Secret Wars? Both of them.
Beyonder, Owie, all that shit.
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>>88776286
I think pretty much everyone that would care about this storytime has read Shooter's Secret Wars. I'm sure it's been storytimed several times anyway.
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>>88776364
By which I mean the original Secret Wars. Secret Wars II is much less well-regarded and not as many people have read it.
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>>88776381
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. That's the important one! Stupid sexy Tigra...
Lemme see what I can do.
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Alright, so, three pages.
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>>88777218
As pertains to this thread, this is the single most important page in the entire thing.
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Molecule Man's face markings are dumb as hell and they're a Kirby design which means they'll be around forever which I love
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>>88777259
I'm probably going to do a full Secret Wars II storytime next week. Flicking through it now has reminded me just how fun it was.
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>>88777288
>The two mightiest beings in all existence clash
Man, I remember how after all this, writers retconned the Beyonder's power levels, revealing that the Celestials and other beings were way stronger and were merely "playing along".
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>>88777375
It was re-retconned, don't worry about it.
Even before Hickman came along, the OHTMU's said as much.
Although there is a cool page coming up that addresses the Celestial thing, specifically.
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>>88771383
>>88777288
THIS is the place I originally intended to start, before I underestimated the length and decided to add extra.

FFS now I know what Kaz feels like.
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>>88777459
>FFS now I know what Kaz feels like.
What Kaz?
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>>88771607
>>88777459
Wait what did Byrne do to Owen?
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>>88777796
>>88777660
Webcomic Kaz. Don't worry about it, it's a whole net-drama thing.
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>>88777831
Not wrestling Kaz. Fuck that guy. He's holding his tag partner back.
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>>88777915
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>>88777459
>>88777831
Fun fact: Walter Simonson retconned all appearances of Doctor Doom throughout this run as being a Doombot. As you'll see, this creates a few plot holes.
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>>88777940
For those who don't know, the Alicia Masters that Johnny married turned out to be a Skrull.
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>>88777940
Fuck's sake I was hoping to be done by now and I've only just starting the actual storytime part.
AND CAPTCHA KEEPS SHITTING ITSELF
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>>88778015
>>88777947
>>88778004
Yeah, these are some of the things that put me off reading all of FF.
Skrullwaif was cool; the fact that everyone forgets/ignores her is what's annoying.
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>>88778087
[baby noises]
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>>88778067
>Skrullwaif was cool; the fact that everyone forgets/ignores her is what's annoying.
She last showed up in a Secret Invasion tie-in. Although James Robinson did mention her in his FF run, which is also the last place Sharon Ventura has been seen.
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>>88778151
>>88778127
Wait Robinson wrote that?
I thought that she'd long since been cured and portraying her as Ms. Thing was a mistake.
Robinson's a continuityfag! He should know better!
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>>88778222
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>>88778198
>that she'd long since been cured
Nope, she was turned back into She-Thing years ago, by Doctor Doom himself, the guy who cured her in the first place. At one point she even went insane and joined the Frightful Four.
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>>88778251
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>>88778151
I can't believe they somehow managed to give the Beyonder an outfit more ridiculous than his disco suit.
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>>88778277
>>88778257
W-who could be so cruel to write such a thing?!
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>>88778299
HOL UP
WE DEM BOYZ
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>>88778371
>>88778279
APOLOGIZE
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>>88778299
Tom DeFalco
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>>88778384
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>>88778299
>>88778371
Here we see those plot holes I mentioned, how do none of these cosmic beings reading Doom's mind notice that he's a Doombot?
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>>88778404
>>88778387
I'm appalled.
DeFalco's Thor was a beacon of hope in the 90s. This is bullshit.
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>>88778454
>>88778418
They thought it'd be funny.
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>>88778494
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>>88778523
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>>88778553
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>>88778454
To be fair, DeFalco only wrote the re-mutation thing. The insanity and Frightful Four thing was Chris Claremont, but he did have her regain clarity at the end and leave the group to go live with Wyatt Wingfoot for a while.
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>>88778583
I should probably mention, since I'll have literally no room for Hickman pages:
This whole canon has since been tweaked a little. Beyonders as a race are every bit the horrifying reality warpers Secret Wars painted this one as. And these three are Beyonder infants, the Cubes being "eggs".
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>>88778728
>>88778638
>The insanity and Frightful Four thing was Chris Claremont
OF FUCKING COURSE IT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
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>>88778752
When's the next issue of Ultimates^2, anyway?
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>>88778796
These threads have shown me I've not being doing enough pre-planning.
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>>88778849
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>>88778896
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>>88778914
Pity I fucked up and couldn't show the Owen/Marsha relationship develop, would've made this a lot more poignant.
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>>88778935
shet
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>>88778974
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>>88778988
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>>88779022
sheeeeeeet
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>>88779040
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>>88779144
This issue brought to you by Win-O' Incorporated.
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>>88779220
>that fucking face
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>3am
>not even halfway
Yep. Now I know what Kaz feels like.
If I can't sleep I'll continue. If I can, I'll make another thread as early as Sunday.
As is I've got shit to do tomorrow and absolutely ZERO preparation. Haven't even bought the travel ticket yet. My bad.
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>>88771383
NO ONE FUCKING CARES
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>>88781402
You might be on the wrong board fame
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>>88781402
baka
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>>88771383
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>>88773084
this train ride humanizes the FF so much. Like damn, they are just like you and me. I can definitely see the appeal of Early Marvel back in the day.
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>>88778553
>Sadface Doom
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>>88779291
>It seems to me that many of my psychological deficits were linked to the agression/reaction syndrome inherent in a male configuration
>Indeed, be warned however that the female design is not without drawbacks.This is why I have chosen to eschew gender entirely.
This page would REALLY cause a kerfuffle here on /co/ if published today.
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Nice storytime OP
Bump.
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>>88779946
>It wasn't really them
Here we already see the backpedaling of the Beyonder's power levels
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>>88779913
I've never seen the High Evolutionary, Mangog and Overmind refered to as being this high in cosmic hierarchy before.
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OP here. My fuckery's caught up with me and I might be free today after all: stay tuned.
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>>88780128
>>88781085
>>88788618
>>88786889
Yep, I'm staying.
STORYTIME CONTINUUUUES
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>>88788745
Round of applause to everyone who kept the thread bumped, I legit thought my last post would be the last post.
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>>88788762
>>88788090
They're still below the big-boy abstracts.
Plus HE's fought Galactus before; ain't nuttin tae fuk wit

If anything I'm more perplexed by why Living Tribunal's below Eternity. Once is a fluke, twice is coincidence, now I'm starting to think we've simply got his place in the hierarchy wrong.
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>>88788831
>>88786901
We'll come to that in the next annual. It's kind funny, in a trippy way.
Personally, I pay it no heed. Like I said, OHOTMU stated he really WAS that powerful, and that all the retcons are of his own subconcious doing (since desiring "limits" and "mortality" are major themes of his arc in Secret Wars II).
See also: The Bendis issue. People get it all wrong. Beyonder ain't actually a damn Inhuman; he wanted to know what it'd feel like if he was an Inhuman, and made it so. The subtext was right there,throughout the story & in the ending. That's the problem with being Bendis, you're stupid so much that people don't cotton on when you're actually being smart for once.

Shite that sounded ranty...
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>>88788899
>KEK BE PRAISED
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>>88788909
>>88786879
I just realized, those female "drawbacks" come up with a vengeance in a BIG way in the last part of the storytime.
LEL
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>>88788925
>>88786794
I have that panel cropped out special.
It's the dialogue that really makes it.
>oh, Du!
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>>88788934
>>88785582
See, I agree but it plays into my point earlier about them not being special in the her & now. Every bloody hero has moments like that these days. Even Thor.
It was downright revolutionary for the time, though.
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>>88778454
I love DeFalco, but his Fantastic Four was hot fucking garbage.
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>>88788950
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>>88778418
That only speaks to how amazing Doom's Doombots are. Not even beings of absolute power can tell the difference.
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>>88788960
>>88788957
There's more...?
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>>88788934
>>It's the dialogue that really makes it.

>Ah well--! It was worth the try!
Yup, this was definetly a Doombot.
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>>88788993
>>88788976
I still prefer my theory.
>hey, these are robots... pfft let's not tell anyone it'll be hilarious
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>>88789004
>>88788994
Yeahhh, I loved it because of how out-of-character it sounds. Like he's almost expecting a "Oh, you rascal! But we still love you".
Suddenly it makes canon sense.
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>>88789022
Wait hol' up
>>88777947
>>88778418
Did Simonson explicitly reference this whole ordeal in his overview?
Not explain it, a simple "that time you met the babby-Beyonders? That was a Doombot" would suffice.
You'd think he would at least have read it.
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>>88789068
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>>88788993
I mean, it brought us the Sue Storm Boob-window which... fucking wew.
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>>88789058
Walt Simonson's problem was specifically that during this era, Doom was a pathetic groveler in exile going around asking for help in defeating Kristoff Vernard because he couldn't do it by himself. So he had the "real" Doctor Doom show up, destroy the Doombot and defeat Kristoff in 5 seconds.
Plus, the Simonson wrote "real" Doctor Doom as not knowing Sharon Ventura, further confirming that the Doom in this story couldn't be the real one.
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>>88789080
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>>88788899
>That's the problem with being Bendis, you're stupid so much that people don't cotton on when you're actually being smart for once.
Yeah, after the fact, Brevoort said something akin to "this was the one time where Bendis was actually being subtle and it flew over everyone's heads." He phrased it in a more PR-friendly way, but he basically said that he regretted not having Bendis explicitly spell it out which is an absurd sentiment.
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>>88789143
There's also the fact that New Avengers: Illuminati was marketed as setting up a bunch of future events. Every issue in that series had payoff later down the line (Secret Invasion, the Infinity Gauntler, Noh-Varr) except for that one, it was a done-in-one story that had no real purpose other than being a story.
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>>88789143
The same thing happened when Bendis wrote a scene where Bucky claims he killed Hitler. According to Brevoort, Bendis intended it as Bucky telling a joke, but it was so out-of-character for Bucky and seemed like the kind of continuity screw-up Bendis would do so people took it seriously.
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>>88789244
Sorry for the infrequency. Simultaneously shitposting in the event thread.
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>>88789252
>>88789080
I don't see how these "tests" for Reed and Sue prove anything. It's perfectly normal and in-character for them to act like this.
The Reed and Johnny ones make sense though.
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>>88789310
Eheheheheh.
Give it another few pages, anon.
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>>88789455
>>88789310
Here we are.
>you had Brains/Heart/Courage all along, Johnny/Ben/Sue!
Come to think of it, this also hearkens back to the discussion >>88774535 about humans being special and >>88772181 about Johnny being a retard.
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>>88789531
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>>88789531
I know, what I mean is that we already knew that Ben and Sue had heart and courage because they display it all the time. Johnny's intelect is rarely used and Reed is rarely this agressive, so the experiment only proved something about them.
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>>88788925
>Subject's first concern is for others; evidence of new behavior pattern emerging

>>88789531
>A rare capacity for compassion
This is bullshit. Ben Grimm has ALWAYS been compassionate, he's always been a true hero that puts others above themselves.
OK, maybe not in his first few appearances when he was constantly on the verge of going bad, but he was still angsting about being the Thing back then and he would later become the Ever-Lovin' Blue-Eyed Thing, Idol of Millions.
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>>88789602
>that puts others above himself
Fix'd
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>>88789602
I believe the point was that all of these traits are canon to them, but tend to go unsung because their primary traits overshadow them. Reed's & Johnny's moreso, by the sounds of it.
Thor is SO compassionate yet I'll still see people talk about him like he's a dumb punchy jock.
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>>88788831

Starlin's heirarchy definitely showed the Tribunal at the top of the heap, but I think it can be explained by a fairly subtle differentiation of powers/duties.

The analogy here might be rough but bear with me. Perhaps the power structure is something like.... Eternity is the president - the commander in chief of the universe. Meanwhile the Tribunal is the supreme court. There isn't much *direct* power there but SCOTUS has the ability to rein in and override the *actual* power, he can tell the POTUS to cut unallowed (unconstitutional) actions right out.

So depending on how you look at things, how the story is being told and the type of story, you could see Eternity or Tribunal as the top of the line. Starlin tends to show Tribunal as the top because the stories he was telling with Thanos and Adam Warlock tended to be meta-level stories, the "separation of powers" stories. When someone is trying to commit a cosmic coup, usurping other entities powers, *of course* the Tribunal is going to be the end-of-the-line arbiter. But for stories a little less meta-cosmic and merely "mundane" cosmic, Eternity and his cabinet of incarnations are where the action is.

The question of "who is the top Marvel cosmic entity" really doesn't have an answer, or the answer is similar to "what is the top branch of the US federal government?" And that answer, while it might not be purely satisfying, is "it depends on the situation"
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>>88789099
Dammit i hated that shit.
Why have you forsaken me Big Tom?! THE WORLD STILL NEEDS HEROES!
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>>88789706
>Introducing Marvel's newest rising star--Wildstreak!
Ah yes, this was the year when every Annual had to introduce a new character that would totally be the next big thing.
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>>88789741
This is the part I was talking about >>88777429 & >>88788899.
>there are LEVELS of Infinity
I love it.
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>>88789786
>>88789189
>Every issue in that series had payoff later down the line (Secret Invasion, the Infinity Gauntler, Noh-Varr) except for that one
HERE HE COMES
HERE COMES AL EWING
HE'S A MADMAN ON WHEEEEELS
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>>88789746
You'd think she's have made a comeback by now, given her gimmick.
Or maybe they'd just Riri it, idk.
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>>88789815
Several Infinities in MSPaint.
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>>88789832
Come to think of it, we still don't know the true origins of the Celestials, do we?
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>>88789912
Or The Stranger.
At least we know how Celestials are born. Actually, it's pretty Beyondery in its own right. Just on a smaller scale (galaxy's instead of entire realities).

They also have a metaphysical connection to an all-powerful Jack Kirby lookalike so there're some implications.
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>>88789815
>Nonsense, they created that illusion in your mind to test your true intentions
I read somewhere that all these retcons of the Beyonder's power levels were done because they hated Jim Shooter's shit and now that he was gone they wanted to shit on his pet character. Seems pretty plausible to me.
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>>88789982
Pretty much.
Which is why I'm glad it was re-retconned, desu. Pety bullshit like that should be excised. It's not cool when Byrne does it, it's no cooler when multiple creators I like agree to do it.
Incidentally, that's another point in Ewing's favor. I've yet to see him pick on a character he doesn't like, presuming he dislikes any.
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>>88789715
Screencapped & saved.
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>>88790158
Maaaan, I'm really liking this Len Kaminski guy. Pity he didn't do more cosmic.
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>>88790195
I'm... guessing Owen came back before this?
Those first 3 issues really were a bad idea, huh.
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>>88790195
Poor Infinity, she's never invited to anything.
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>>88790240
Even Infinity Gauntlet!
THE EVENT WITH HER NAME ON IT!

I have a theory that she's a multiversal constant, like TLT or Oblivion, and that whenever we see her it's just a fractional avatar (like the whole "Shuma's toenail" analogy).
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>>88790230
>Those first 3 issues really were a bad idea, huh.
Not necessarily, those issues were the set-up for everything that would later be done with the Molecule Man. If it wasn't for that Avengers story, he probably wouldn't have been in Secret Wars at all and he would just be a forgotten Silver Age FF villain like the Miracle Man.
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>>88790230
Yeah, I believe he appeared in 2 stories before this one.
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>>88790318
Oh damn Kaminski wrote Prince of Lies!
I loved that stuff!
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>>88790498
AND that Avengers arc where Grim Reaper summons Chthulu!
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>>88790537
AAAAAND my all-time favourite Dr Strange issue!
...Bugger I don't know whether this makes me happier or sadder!
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>>88790392
Skipping over Secret Wars in just 3 pages defeats that very point tho.
I blame this story, I hadn't read it yet and thought it'd be ~10 pages like the other two annuals.

That and I totally forgot about the FF experiment issues.
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>>88790609
*issue, singular
>>88790431
You know I might've blundered into one of them recently. Will have to look it up.
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>>88790663
COME ON AND SLAM
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>>88790683
Pop quiz! Name all the references!
I don't even know that they are all references, just hoping they are and that someone else will do the work for me.
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>>88790895
I'd like to think Hickman read this Annual once upon a time, and that this page is what inspired him to do Secret Wars.
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>>88790744
The "Oh no, not again" plant is a reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
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>>88790936
And so we end not with a bang...
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>>88790744
To think that Bendis would later have the Molecule Man job to The Sentry.
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>>88790966
But with a quip.
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>>88790952
That's the one I recognize that got me wondering, yeah.
>>88790982
>he doesn't know

...SHIT I'VE BEEN MISSING WORLD OF SPORT BE BACK LATER FOR THE LAST PART
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>>88790966
>>88790985
Does the Time Variance Authority still exist? Because I can only imagine how much paperwork the last few years of Marvel stories have caused them.
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>>88791024
If they still existed, surely no more because all the recent events have probably caused them all to commit mass sudoku.
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>>88790158

guest-starring Justice? did i blink and miss it? or was there a section of the book not posted?

did anyone like this character to merit cover billing? he was just a judge dredd ripoff right?
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>>88792106
The Annuals always had multiple stories, this storytime only covers those dealing with the Beyonder, the Molecule Man and Cosmic Cubes.
And yeah, Justice Peace was nothing special.
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>>88771472
>storing multiple pizza pies in a lab freezer

Johnny pls
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>>88790985
Last story. Three issues long.
>>88791024
>>88791146
I was wondering if they've ever had dealing with the Captain Britain Corps.
And if not: WHY THE HELL NOT?
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>>88792106
>>88792140
Yeah, sorry. I felt obligated to include the covers since I was doing the full story each time, even if it wasn't the only story in the issue.
The main story of that issue is actually all about the FF tussling with TVA, Justice Peace, totally-not-Mark-Gruenwald etc.. The final pages of the Kosmos story are a reference to it.
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>>88793281
I liked this look for Thanos even though I still prefer his classic outfit.
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>>88793328
WoS is over
Good shit, hoping it gets picked up
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>>88794726
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>>88794749
There you have it folks, Peter Quill's first "real" appearance in 616.
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>>88794773
Pretty sure he had an appearance in some 90s mini. It cleared up the Master of the Sun thing.
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>>88794843
Okay, 3 mysteries.
#1: When the FUCK did this happen?
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>>88795000
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>>88795023
>50 slots left
shet
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>>88795158
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>>88795510
#2: Where the FUCK is Kubik? That's who she's talking about, right?
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>>88796300
#3: Who the FUUUUUUUCK is she talking to? Who sings? Who's waiting?! This never comes up again!
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>>88796392
MYSTERIES WITHIN MYSTERIES
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>>88796603
Guess I miscounted pages. Lotsa hullabaloo about nuthin'.
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>>88796631
>Gladiator shaking hands with a genocidal monster
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>>88797527
Wow, racist. Just because they're both purple.
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>>88796631
Aaaaaand that's the end of the storytime. Last time she ever appeared.
>>88796581
DUN-DUN, DUN-DUN
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habby nu yee
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>>88797840
Poor Kubik, we never got to see his reaction to his waifu's death.
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>>88799105
WHERE THE FUCK EVEN IS HE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZH7Dwpqo8o#t=32s
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>>88796392
> Who sings?
The rip in space Kyln is built around. It sings to a cosmic being.
> Who's waiting?
Thanos. He summons her telepathically.
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>>88803035
It's nothing like Thanos' usual text/bubbles though.
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>>88790744
Middle's Beetlejuice maybe?
Reads a lot like a Jason Aaron page.
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>>88803587

True, but it only makes sense if it's Thanos. Plus, it's a very Thanos kind of thing to say/do.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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