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She'll live... Just Trust Me - Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/
release-2016.htm

>Out This Week:
Doctor Aphra #2 (Storytime: https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/88594486)

>The Original Rebel: Saw Gerrera Returns | Star Wars Rebels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLN_y-uWAVA

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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Fuck you Vos, you keep your jinxing ass away from her
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posting some hope
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Daily reminder that Ezra is a buttslut
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>>88632057
Poor Luke, he truly was best boy.
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she'll be ok
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>>88632022
Leave it to Vos to make the thread too early. At least the nighttime janitor isn't around, he deleted a new thread when the old was on page 10, no rhyme or reason given.
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>Carrie is stable

Thank god.

>yfw JEJ is next
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>>88632062
>Mayhew can barely walk now
>Extremely tall people have a low average life expectancy
>they also have an increased chance of heart problems
>Mayhew is 7'2"
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Why do we care so much whether she lives or dies. Talk about Star Wars again.
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>>88632150
Because Carrie Fisher is an important part of Star Wars and it would be sad if she died
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>>88632117
I left it until the old thread was on page 9.

I know I was the tiniest bit early, but I wanted to remove the month-old "new" episode links, and the old unnecessary trailers, fix the [embeds], and add the storytime link. I didn't want to risk someone sniping me with an unfixed shitposty OP instead.
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>>88632057
>Luke's dad will never teach him to play saberball
At least Ezra had his friends to help him.

Although they did almost kill him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfGtyMF3SJw
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>The Mon Calamari just fucking left their homeworld
>Their ships used to be buildings
>Raddus's ship was a town hall
I'm liking this more and more
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>>88632138
They couldn't even revive JEJ as a CGI zombie
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>>88632144
Don't worry, he got surgery to replace his knees, it's not as hard for him to walk anymore.
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>>88632182

Oh I forgot you were her best friend.
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>>88632198
Then why didn't they have Home 1 before Endor?
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>>88632232
>you have to be someone's best friend to be sad about them dying
Autism speaks
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>>88632232
>you have to be close friends with somebody to feel empathy for them
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>>88632257
They did. It just wasn't at Scarif since it was mainly just Raddus and a few others that went and not the entire rebel forces.
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>>88632198
Me too, the Mon Cala and their tech/additions to the Rebellion are great.
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>>88632195
I was mostly making a Vos joke. Yoda should have zero tolerance for Jedi who spice-enhance their visions. Just more evidence of how far the Order had fallen.

For new threads I think page 9 is fine, but apparently it is not for some of the powers that be (which certainly isn't me). Oh well, it's not that hard to make a new new thread if they do that.
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>>88632289
I like how Raddus was all-in for the rebellion, and once they hear about the attack on Scarif it's like
>contact admiral Raddus!
>he's gone to fight!

Wasted no time getting in on the action
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>>88632198
Best part is that Raddus was the mayor, so he literally just went "fuck you, I'm taking town hall and I'm gonna kill me some imps"
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>>88632289
All the MonCal ships that went into space were primarily cities that were made space-ready. They had to be converted into battle-ready capital ships for Rebellion use. Raddus' ship is just the first one to be ready as such at the time of Scarif.
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>>88632273
>>88632278

There's feeling sympathetic and there's shitting up threads so you can blogpost about how upset it makes you.

Nobody gives a fuck that Anon #886322778 doesn't want Carrie Fisher to die. It contributes nothing to the thread other than turning it into a pointless circle jerk.
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>>88632323
I want, no, NEED to see this in a Rebels episode

PLEASE FILONI
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>>88632346
You're a miserable cunt
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>>88632346
>pointless circle jerk
So a general thread?
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>>88632346
I hate to ruin this for you but every single post in every single one of these threads is equally pointless.
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>>88632346
Its not circlejerking or blogposting to express sympathy anon.

Not everything has to be arguments, people should be allowed to post and express their emotions without being called a circlejerk.

And I have said this a thousand times, and I'll say it again; if you don't like what is being talked about, and you want to talk about something else, respectfully start a new topic. If there is interest, you'll get a discussion going.

Simple as that.
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>>88632278
It's been a rough couple of years for the original cast. We've lost Kenny Baker, original Ackbar, one of the Boba Fetts, the TK-421 guy, and I'm sure I'm forgetting others. It's about that time, though, since the OT was so long ago. It's just going to get worse.
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>>88632381
>>88632389
>>88632392

The point is endless posting for dubs, trips, kek and sympathy posts fucking destroyed any semblance off discussion in the last thread. So give it a fucking rest. And that's the last I'm posting because we're already derailing it all over again.
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>>88632423
check these dubs
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>>88632348
I think Raddus has a good chance of appearing, plus they already have Stephen Stanton in the recurring cast.
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A plane crash didn't kill Ford, a car crash didn't kill Hammil, and a pussy little heart attack isn't going to kill Fisher.
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>>88632423
That was last thread. We had our fun, its done. Nobody was trying to start that again.

So again, start a discussion more preferable to you if you wish. No need to attack others.
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new short story from insider posted when
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>>88632462
A couple threads ago.
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>>88632423
That thread is over now. It's dead and can no longer hurt you. No sense you shitting up a new thread arguing about the last one.

It is neither a surprise nor a huge issue if people express dismay for a thread. People work through it. As long as thread after thread isn't consumed by it it is fine. There's always new threads, you'll never run out.
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So what's everybody's predictions for Episode VIII?
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>>88632443
Well Pablo said that now Rogue One is out, the rest of the Pre-ANH Rebels timeline is open game.

The immediate future is Saw Gerrera of course, but we have at least a Season and a half of episodes that could tie-in with Rogue One. New characters are of course the most likely to be incorporated, especially if they are Rebels, so I think we have a good shot at seeing Raddus!
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>>88632443
I'd rather have a post Rogue One appearance where they spring him from Imperial jail. It's not like it matters if we've never seen him before, it's a big galaxy after all.
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Is it just me or has S3 of Rebels sucked ass?

I'm not even caught up because I've just had zero interest whatsoever. Kinda surprisingly after how fucking great S2 was.
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>>88632487
I honestly think they're going to go the whole "Kylo turns good" route, to mix things up.

My personal theory is that Kylo knows about the Prophecy, and Anakin's part in it, and that he is really trying to finish what Vader started; Bringing balance to the Force.

Only he was misguided and tried to "learn the Dark Side" to be able to do it. He will realize his mistakes, and be the Hero of IX.

Which leads me to my other implicated prediction, that Rey is going to turn evil.
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>>88632462
It was already posted yesterday but I can repost for you.
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>>88632532
No, S3 has been just fine. A steady build-up, just like the first half of S1 and S2 were.
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>>88632532
The Star Wars cartoons have been like that for me all the way through. None of the episodes anyone saus are good ever felt worth sitting through all the others.
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>>88632539
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>>88632493
I hope best boy comes back to voice Cassian if he ever makes an appearance in Rebels
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>>88632487
Have no idea about plot but I expect it to be better than TFA.
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>>88632571
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>>88632574
I'd love to have some sort of Tales of Cassian type thing about the shady shit he did for the Alliance.
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>>88632493
Prior to Rogue One it was hard to see a way for Ezra to get out of the way of the OT storyline in a way that makes sense, but now I can see the path

Kanan will die, and Ezra will hang up his lightsaber in favor of joining the Guardians of the Whills. Either that or he exiles himself to chill with the Bendu and later founds the Church of the Force that Lor San'Tekka is a member of in TFA.
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>>88632589
And that is the story of how Krennic made the holocover of Stylin' Capes Monthly.
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>>88632574
Visual dictionary confirms he's been a Fulcrum before. Him and K2 would be a perfect fit for the tone of Rebels too.
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>>88632599
Bendu is going to fucking die when the Empire tracks Phoenix Squadron to Atollon and BDZ it.
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>>88632625
>Bendu is going to fucking die
Please no
Filoni don't
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Have we talked about K-2's death in the novelization? It's so much more depressing.
>With one second left until total shutdown, K-2SO chose to mentally simulate an impossible scenario in which Cassian Andor escaped alive.

>The simulation pleased him.
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http://deadline.com/2016/12/carrie-fisher-heart-attack-hospitalized-star-wars-1201875492/

meme magic worked boys, we have hope
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>>88632662
Oh my
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>>88632487
Luke and Rey going on an old holocrons/artifacts hunt, visiting Vader's abandoned castle, rediscovering the Whills, and discovering something huge about the way the Force works, and maybe some lore regarding the Dark Side.

I don't have a clue on what they'll do on Poe's/Finn's side of the story yet. Maybe dealing with the First Order while Luke and Rey are doing their Indiana Jones business.
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>>88632620
>Him and K2 would be a perfect fit for the tone of Rebels too.
Ezra: "This is bullshit. Kanan can't Force ground me just because I might be using the Dark Side, he's not even my real dad!"

Cassian pats him on the shoulder, tells him it'll be okay, and then shoots him in the back.
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>>88632487
What I'm hoping happens:
>Knights of Ren
>Phasma actually gets to do something and not just be Boba Fett 2.0
>Rey isnt Luke's daughter (seriously that seems way to obvious, even for this series)
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>>88632695
This is all rumor-mill stuff but Luke vs. KoR is probably happening. Finn and Phasma might have a cat-and-mouse thing on the casino/nightclub planet where she evens the score.
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>>88632676
They all have inner monologues before they die. Chirrut considers making a "My eyes, Baze I cant see" kind of joke but chooses to comfort him instead with what we see in the movie. Baze is him regretting his loss of faith and choosing to die like the Guardian he once was for his friend.
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>>88632733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=griLe2vwqe8

how can the knights of ren even touch luke?
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>>88632487
Indiana Jones style race for the dangerous artifact between Rey and Kylo. They have some scene together where they aren't trying to kill each other and Kylo reveals something about Luke to her that makes her question him.

A Luke that's a bit greyer in general and clearly is hiding something that causes tension in all his scenes with Rey.

Finn and Poe and chubby asian chick B-plot that's largely separate and is mostly about dealing with the First Order, Phasma, and whoever Laura Dern and Benicio del Toro play.
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>>88632764
Fuck that's actually really heart wrenching
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>>88632764
jesus christ
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>>88632764

I've heard the book in general goes a long way towards fixing the pacing issues.
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>>88632764
HERE'S TO YOU NICOLA AND BART
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>>88632539

>Voice Of The Empire
>Voice
>Of
>The
>Empire
>VOTE

BRAVO DISNEY
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>>88632770
We don't know how good the KoR are, or how good Luke is, how age has effected him etc

Also 7 on 1 is rough odds no matter who you are

Though if I had to put money on a prediction, I'd say Luke will completely decimate them in the first 20 minutes of the movie and we'll never see them again or hear about their backstory/identities until 2 years later in a comic
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>>88632539
>>88632571
>>88632589
>>88632615
Thanks friend!
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>>88632828
It does. It also fills gaps of information, like Vader did indeed order Krennic to come to him. Also how Gaylen convinced them to place the exhaust port. He said they needed a way to control the radiation and presented it as the most cost effective method which got all of the bureaucrats dicks hard, so they went with that.
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>>88632859
I would like to think that luke has reached yoda-tier power and can easily smash even tanks with his force power
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>>88632872
>Galen jews the jews
Kek
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>>88632776
>Kylo reveals something about Luke to her that makes her question him.

I have a theory about what he tells her

Rumor already is that he tells her Luke dumped her on Jakku, but I think it's worse than that. I think he killed her parents too, because they went dark.
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>>88632859
This is a reasonable prediction, hope it doesn't go that way though
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>>88632914
>not wanting luke to show off how much of a badass he has become
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>>88632891
>luke uses the force to stop them from being able to turn on thier lightsabers
>goes back to watching the ocean and starts to talk about the flock of seagulls he feels on tuesday
>KOR kills themsleves out of boredom a month later as Luke rambles on about his friends pets endlessly
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>>88632891
I hope he demonstrates his power in a more subtle way though

Have him explain to Rey that the force isn't just raw power, but finesse as well. He could pull a Dr. Manhattan and "explode" one of those rock huts into all its composite bricks, then calmy put it back together.

A call-back to how he struggled initially with telekinesis and just stacking a few rocks, now he is the rock-stacking master

Rey says "I don't believe it" and Luke smirks but says nothing
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>>88632944
>relives the rouge one vader scene, but with knights of ren replacing the rebels
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>>88632695
>and not just be Boba Fett 2.0
Sigh.

https://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/2016/01/09/we-need-to-talk-about-captain-phasma-and-boba-fett/
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>>88632972

Oh god this just reminds me we're 100% going to get Dagobah member berries with Luke training Rey.
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>>88632872
Oh we also find out that Cassian used to be a Separatist as a child. Which would explain why he was fighting since he was a kid, Empire probably wrecked those planets.
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>>88633037
>member berries
Fuck off
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>>88632022
Carrie Fisher will live so Lea can die in one of next movies.
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>>88633038
He was a kid before the Empire was a thing. His fights were against the Republic, as revenge for the Republic killing his father in some kind of accident.
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>Luke and Rey are walking along the beach
>Rey mentions how much she hates sand

How do you react
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>>88632620
>Visual dictionary confirms he's been a Fulcrum before

Is Cassian the Fulcrum that recruited Wedge as mentioned in Aftertrash?
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>>88633050

get rekt cernovich
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>>88633072
Right, miss remembered that part.
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>>88633079
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>>88633098
Did you ignore the Rebels episode where Fulcrum (Kallus) tells Phoenix Squadron about Wedge and his buddies?
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>>88633139
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>>88632862
You're welcome but thanks go to the kind anon who shared it yesterday!
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>>88633079
That would create thousands of Rey is Anakin reincarnated theories and thousands of Rey wants Luke theories
or both
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>>88633079
>Chopper cameo
>buries her in the sand
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>>88633147
Sorry, I forgot.
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>>88632972
>rey easily lifts the X-wing with a smug look
>luke just smiles and tells her to disassemble her lightsaber without touching it
>rey takes forever to undo the complex circuitry
>luke just smiles as rey becomes more and more agitated
>luke quickly disassembles his own lightsaber with a glance, and shows of all the parts like they were the illustration in a guide book, before all of it collapses back into a working lightsaber
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>>88632908
Luke dumping a child on Jakku in the hands of someone like Unkar Plutt would never happen. But I could see them having some plot where Rey's parents are dark siders and they escape from some attack on them by Luke and end up abandoning her on Jakku. Then Luke is still somewhat "responsible" for what happened to her.
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One of the things that disappointed me most about Rogue One is that I thought the fact that ALLIANCE bombs killed her father would be a big deal. Yet outside of mentioning it it didn't seem to bother her whatsoever. She even went back to Yavin and debated with them.

There was this underlying idea of "maybe they're not so different" but they just barely tickled it every time. It's a bummer how underutilized it was. Because then your audience isn't gonna care or think twice about the fact that the alliance has assassins and terrorists under their employ and are willing to kill innocents for their goals.
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>>88632972
One of the rumored leaks says Luke practically disintegrates a hut around Kylo and Rey when they have a conversation about something he doesn't like.
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>>88633339
I think she was smart enough to realize that the Rebels had no reason to believe they were bombing anybody other than Imperials, so while she was initially mad, she realized it would get nobody anywhere for her to turn her back on the Rebellion, especially when she needed them to finish what her father started.
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>>88633409

But that's factually wrong. Their entire purpose was to kill her father not imperials.
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>>88633423
Yeah but again, no reason to believe he was anything other than a VIP Imperial
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>>88633316
I very much like the idea of Rey getting a big head just because she can do some large-scale force feats easily, but utterly lacking fine control. Like she can push and lift heavy shit no problem, but completely fails to master things like Kylo's blaster-freezing or paralysis

>>88633361
That sounds fantastic. Luke getting pissed off has some serious potential.
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>>88633456

Other than what she told them? And the way they lied about it being an extraction?
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>>88633496
Luke getting pissed off is likely a guarantee since another source said he wants Kylo dead in VIII. I think we're getting the darker Luke that Mark Hamill always wanted.
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Does anyone else plan on not watching any trailers for Episode 8 ?

I told myself i'd do that but i feel like it's gonna be impossible for something as big as Star Wars
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>>88633539
>darker Luke
no pls, not my waifu
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>>88633565
No. I know I'd just cave in anyways
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>>88633423
they thought her father WAS an imperial.
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>>88633565
There's no point, it's not as if they'll spoil anything. These trailers are intentionally misleading and some of the stuff in them might not even show up in the finished product.
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Rogue One was a bad movie
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>>88633275
>Are you my father reincarnated?
>Dunno, I just fucking hate sand in my asscrack.
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>>88633592
you're a bad movie
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>>88633576
I could go for darker luke, but he should still always be a heroic and just individual

even when he is at his low moments he should still be the kid who planned a daring rescue, and could say "I'm Luke Skywalker, and I'm here to save you" and mean every word

he should emerge from this crisis of faith battered, but unbowed
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>>88633614
If Luke is darker, it'll probably be because of some sith artifact's influence or something. And the plot will probably be Rey reminding him of his ideals by refusing to kill Kylo.

I have to say I'd look forward to a darker Luke simply because Mark likes the idea, which means he'll probably put his all into playing it.
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>>88633565
I have no self control, I'll probably know the whole plot once the leaks start up in force
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>>88633649
>yfw Luke's evil laugh is the Joker's
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>>88633361
>>88633496

I hope we get seriously OP Luke, not to the extent he was in Legends but he should be the most powerful force user ever now.
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>>88633658
I wonder when we'll get leaks. It seems like the usual suspects don't have nearly the insight that they did for TFA. That's why all of MSW's information is little bullshit things with a ton of pure speculation attached.

They may be keeping a tighter lid this time, so we may not know the whole plot months in advance like before.
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>>88633614
>>88633649
>>88633576
>>88633539
I don't think it will be "Darker Luke" necessarily, but more like Rey takes advantage of his kindness as a father figure and is a bratty little shit to train, so he ends up losing his patience and snaps so she knows he's not a joke

I'm thinking along of the lines of Gandalf in fellowship
>BILBO BAGGINS

but then he calms down. He probably will still want Kylo dead though, which begs the question why doesn't he just do it himself? If it's going to be something like
>Rey, to complete your training YOU have to kill Kylo Ren!
then I can see Rey becoming disillusioned and leaving Luke's training. Because really, that's Luke's problem to fix, not hers.
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>>88633649
I... don't really like this. This is not the Luke I remember and love. As cliché as it is, I want wise old Obi wan Luke.
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>>88633668
I want to see him fight Kylo and see the similarities in their styles. There has to be some kind of climactic clash between them considering Luke raised him for a decade presumably.
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>>88633693
>snoke wants kylo to kill rey
>luke wants rey to kill kylo
no way this will end badly
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Hey all you kids, do you wanna celebrate Life Day with your fellow anons?

No?

Too bad, join the STREAM NOW or else!

We'll be watching christmas episodes of Bamham: TBATB, IZ, Billy and Mandy, the peanuts, Spongebub, Star Wars; as well as some more miscellaneous christmas movies!
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>>88633699
He's been through too much shit for it to be that easy. He looks like he wants to kill himself when Rey finds him.
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>>88633700
Luke should destroy Kylo, it shouldn't even be a fight.

It should be like when he confronted Jacen and force pinned him to a chair, considering Kylo is a poor man's Jacen.
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>>88633590
Well, it's true that the trailers for Episode VII almost didn't say anything about the plot, but most of the time movies reveal a lot about the plot just in the trailers.

It's just that i fantasize about going into a movie without knowing anything about it

>>88633658
Well, at least i'll try to avoid leaks, i was able to do that with Rogue One (although i don't know if there even were any leaks)
Got spoiled Han's death because of leaks, sucks man
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>>88633733
this is probably the fight you are looking for
>>88632770
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>>88633733
I agree that Luke should be able to beat Kylo, but unlike most I don't like the idea of him being over the top OP. Then it begs the question of why he wasn't doing anything.
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>>88633598

>you will never sand her asscrack
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>>88633693
i still don't think Luke wants Kylo dead.
I mean it's his best friend's and sister's son after all, i don't think he'd do that.
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>>88633732
True. Now, I understand this darker Luke could really add to the character. But it also has all the reasons to utterly destroy all of it.

I know we shit on TFA for playing it too safe, but really, when it comes to OT's characters, they really shouldn't take risks.

That's my opinion, anyway
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What if Luke has lost his connection to the force? He's become so disillusioned after Kylo and the KoR turned on him and wiped all off his students it severed his faith and he's powerless and that's why he hasn't returned to help and put himself in isolation.
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>>88633794
That would be a great plot but not enough MUH OP LUKE KILLS EVERYONE WITH A SINGLE LIGHTSABER SWIPE for most fans.

Disney knows that's what the people want. Han is only dead because Harrison probably forced the issue.
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>>88633773
Think he might change his mind once he learns Kylo murdered Han?

Luke's patience has to have limits
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>>88633817

Well of course he then later regains his connection just in time to whoop ass and save everyone from Kylo and the Knights or something.

I just feel like it's going to have more of an impact if it's one big showing rather than he's just OP from the getgo.
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>>88633858
I'm pretty certain that's going to be what happens and that Rey's effect on Luke will be helping him regain his old mindset. Luke wanting the nephew he was responsible for for years dead is very un-Luke.
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>>88633680
The call sheet got leaked months before the film was released, so that provided a lot. Still, the leaks mostly came out the year TFA actually was slated to come out, so I imagine episode VIII will be similar. Rian Johnson is less concerned about secrecy than JJ Abrams, too.
>>88633737
Yeah, I probably should avoid leaks. It does make things more exciting and unpredictable, but I really don't have self control.
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>>88633899

Looks like I'll have to avoid these threads for the next year because of you fags.
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>>88633794
This would only work if he recovers it by the end of the movie, you know they're going to give people full Luke fanservice eventually.

I like the idea though. It explains why he's searching for ancient Jedi stuff too, something to help him sort it all out. If the force can "awaken" then I guess it can go to sleep too.

Also that expression he gives Rey at the end of TFA would make a lot more sense
>Oh hell, you came all the way here?
>Put that lightsaber away, I can't even use it anymore
>You wasted the entire journey finding me, I can't help you at all

everybody expecting training gets swerved. No way Disney will let it happen though. We're getting one-cut-one-kill super samurai Luke force-pushing the knights of ren 2 miles out into the ocean.
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What are the chances that Luke will fight with two lightsabers now that Rey gave him back Anakin's ?
That'd be both stupid as hell and really cool
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>>88633916

Idk I think it's more likely than you predict. Luke going HAM on everything simply doesn't make for a good movie. 8 is also supposed to be the Empire Strikes Back and I don't think Rian Johnson is the wish fulfillment type.
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>>88633948
Rian Johnson and the fact that they gave him a ton of creative space is the only reason I have any hope of VIII not following a predictable formula.
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>>88633948
Well, I hope you're right. A broken down Luke who can barely use the force because he's so conflicted is definitely better

But let's not be too naive
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>>88633911
More like avoiding the entire internet
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>>88633969
but i want to see luke at the height of his power
It would be so cool for him to throw a shuttle at his enemies, after showing him to be little more than a cool old guy, wise but not one for action, for most of the move
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How long before TFA came out did the accurate spoiler first start leaking?
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>>88633937
I really hope he tells Rey "you keep it, I don't need one of those anymore"
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>>88634004
When there's 1000 posts of garbage guesses, eventually someone would accidentally guess one minor thing correctly. That's no metric for accuracy.
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>>88634014
One of MSW's recent spoilers suggests that he refuses to use lightsabers. But that directly goes against an older spoiler of theirs that he fights off all the Knights of Ren with his saber. Yet another reason I think they have nothing actually substantial to leak this time around.
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>>88634004
I think it was like 6 or 7 months prior that the more accurate stuff started getting out
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>>88634004
It's hard to remember, we had a 60% accurate outline almost a full year ahead of release

I think by about September we knew the entire movie scene by scene except for a few things
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>>88634004
We had the basics from back when it began with the hand falling at least 7 months before TFA's release.
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I really don't believe Luke will go full super warrior though ?
He might have a few "epic" scenes, but i don't think they'll make him do extra crazy stuff, especially since they want the ST to have a strong OT feel, and crazy fights are very prequels.

I don't even think that's what people expect from Luke. He fought well during the OT, but he's never really shown as "super badass Jedi ultimate warrior"
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>>88634036
I have a guess about that

The fight scene they saw recorded with wirework etc. will be a dream Rey has about the knights of Ren finding them

yes, a fucking dream sequence
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>>88634064
They won't do this simply because he can't fight all of Rey's battles and we can't question why he doesn't. If he's too OP then it starts looking contrived that he doesn't solve everything immediately.
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>>88634064
People base it on old EU and George's word that he fulfilled Anakin's potential of being the strongest force user ever.

So people are expecting him to be super powerful, even more than Yoda and Sidious.
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>>88634064
he could go full yoda
>spends 9/10ths of the film being a harmless, cool old grandpa teacher
>behaves like he hasnt stretched his force muscles in too long
>finally forced to fight
>throws an entire First order lander at his enemies
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>>88633911
I use spoiler tags. Besides, there are better places that compile leaks.
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>>88634064
>He fought well during the OT, but he's never really shown as "super badass Jedi ultimate warrior"

This. Luke is a competent and resourceful fighter but his real strength is his strong character and moral compass.

I'm sure he's a very skillful combatant by now but he should always be looking for a more clever and non-violent way to solve problems.
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>>88633911
You'd much rather avoid /tv/.
I think most people here respect spoilers and are decent about it

+ You should always avoid /tv/.
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>>88634093
This is ironic since Rey is fighting his. Kylo is Luke's problem in every way.
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>>88634040
>>88634041
>>88634059

Fuck is wrong with you people.
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>>88634167
I've never found my enjoyment of something lessened by having it spoiled beforehand. Destination not the journey blah blah
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>>88634182

Because you already knew what happened. You're still going to enjoy it but you'll never have had that experience of not knowing.

So yeah your enjoyment isn't lessened it just starts automatically at a lower level.
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>>88634167
Spoilers never bothered me. Plus I'd rather know beforehand if I should bother spending money on a movie.
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>>88634182
>>88634218
>>88634236
the concept of spoilers is actually pretty modern, dating back only to Hitchcock movie "psycho"
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>>88632764
>>88632764
How did the novel handle Jyn and Cassian's respective ends?
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>>88634272

Probably because people didn't have the internet and things didn't get spoiled?
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>>88634218
Fuck, you got me there. Never thought of it like that.
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So I just came back watching Rogue One,
what was up with the Jihadists? Whose side were they?
Also what they mean with the white girl on white male with the explosion at the end?
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>>88634308
>what was up with the Jihadists? Whose side were they?
Saw Gerrera's faction. They're the ones that got kicked out of the Rebellion for being too dirty in their tactics. Saw thinks both the Rebellion and the Empire are out to assassinate him.

>Also what they mean with the white girl on white male with the explosion at the end?
wat
there was some romantic tension between them but it didn't have time to fully develop so they just hugged
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>>88634308
>Also what they mean with the white girl on white male with the explosion at the end?

You're gonna have to explain this one to me.
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>>88634308
>Also what they mean with the white girl on white male with the explosion at the end?
DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
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>>88634370
sorry what?
>>88634344
When the guy hugged the main girl.
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>>88634390
DESU
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>>88634404
I wonder how much hazard pay those pair in the firing chamber get. There's not even a fucking railing there.
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>>88634428
>I wonder how much hazard pay those pair in the firing chamber get.
>I wonder how much hazard pay
>hazard pay
>pay
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>>88634428
I mean it's not like you're just gonna fucking fall in unless you have zero sense of balance.
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>>88634428
Sheev guarantees their children will have a completely paid-for education as inquisitors
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Luke had better go full supersayan in Epixode 8 or else that Ryan Johnson guy is going to wish it was him on that plane.
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>>88634500
>Epixode
Is that how the kids call it these days?
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>>88634488
>>88634467
Wait a goddamn minute

Has anybody ever considered that the reason the Empire doesn't employ aliens is because designing different shapes/sizes of armor/cockpits etc for a variety of alien races would simply be too expensive?

It's a lot more cost efficient to just design everything for ~6 foot tall humans. Even Twi'leks ramp up costs because now you have to make all new helmets for your troopers.

Empire wasn't anti-alien, they were fucking pragmatic.

Chiss get a pass because they're just different-colored humans.
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>>88634544
What about Mirialans?
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>>88634557
Too sexy. Dangerous workplace distraction.
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Why are hybrid species so underutilized in Star Wars? We know they're canon, but they've appeared so little.
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>>88634613
Because fuck you, no alies for you, that's why.
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>>88632423
Carrie Fisher and sympathy for her, however shittily written, is far more relevant for a SW thread than anything you will ever post to this particular Calamari tentacle fondling board.
You fucking faggot.
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>>88634628
*aliens
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>>88633764
>implying I like sand on my dick
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>>88634647
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>>88634557
Maybe they have different dietary needs.

Streamlining isn't just for armor designs, it's cheaper if all your troopers can eat the same rations too. An Army marches on its stomach afterall.

The topic of who eats what, and food in general, is woefully unexplored in Star Wars.
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>>88634647
Are we ever gonna see him again? For fuck's sake, it's like he just vanished

Actually, is there anything out there about him past the Clone Wars? Haven't read too much of the new canon stuff so I might've missed something
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>Variety @Variety 1h1 hour ago
Carrie Fisher moved from the emergency room to intensive care, is not in stable condition, her brother says

Kek is winning
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>>88634613
Do we know of any other hybrid species other than Human/Twilek?
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>>88634647
Tryhard edgy shit.
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>>88634690

inflatable muffins + blue milk.
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>>88634710
>is not in stable condition
Now in stable condition, right?
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>>88634676
fuck, good choice

>>88634696
He's somewhere out there, no canon death yet. I'm sure he'll show up again most likely in a comic or a book.

Though my headcanon currently is that he must be dead by ESB, because otherwise why wouldn't he be called up with the other great Bounty Hunters? Cad Bane is duke of new york A #1
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>>88634696
There isn't anything with him past the Clone Wars yet. I imagine the unfinished TCW material may have given him a definitive end- we saw a brief clip of an arc with him and Boba on Tatooine so we know there was still some Cad Bane material left.
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>>88634064
I just realized I sort of want to see Luke go through the Knights and a bunch of backup in a scene that's basically a clone of R1's Vader scene.
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>>88634715
>he doesn't get it
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>>88634613
Is there an explanation for why they're even possible?
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>>88634730
Her brother said that news sites were "reading between the lines", she's still not in stable condition sadly, they've received no news, good or bad.
Hope she recovers
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>>88634647

Rest in piece my sweet ;__;7
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>>88634773
Because the Force wills it.
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>>88633794
>What if Luke has lost his connection to the force?

Then he would be dead.
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>>88634733
Watch, he gets killed by Boba.
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>>88634647
Superior Bounty Hunter coming through.
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>>88634773
Not that I know of but I imagine "humanoid/humanlike races have common ancestry and are still genetically close enough to be compatible" or something like that.
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>>88634791
You know, Boba means "stupid woman" in spanish.
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>>88634628
Pablo please
>>88634712
I don't think so
>>88634773
I don't think there ever will be, they just are, probably except for radically different species like Humans and Hutts
but that would be something, wouldn't it?
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>>88634428
>Empire
>railings
>ever
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>>88634712
Dathomiri Zabrak
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>>88634831
The Emperor's throne room had railings. Then again, it IS the Emperor's throne room.
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>>88634647
Rex by far. Possibly my favorite Star Wars character of all time.
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>>88634847
But anon, Rex is in the movies
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>>88634773

In Legends, yes there is an explanation

>>88634613

Because that opens up a HUGE can of worms that "da mouse" probably doesn't want to answer at this moment.
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>>88634834
Were Dathomiri females humans?
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>>88634847
I'm kinda disappointed he ended up as a rebel and not leading Vader's Fist.
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>>88634858
Cody is. I didn't think Rex was.
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>>88634647
Ahsoka, she's probably the most important/significant character that will never appear in a film
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>>88634712

whatever gay shit was going on with the Sith being a species rather than "edgy Jedi" in Legends, if that counts

also Mara Jade (Human/ginger)
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>>88634779
Shame that book ruined her
Is that one canon or not? With Quinlan Vos
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>>88634647
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>>88634839
True Vader did have to
>heave the Sheev.
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>>88634860
Technically half human, the Dathomirian race is hybrid Zabrak and human. The males ended up being more Zabrak-like.
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>>88634887
It is canon, it was based off episodes they never got to make for TCW
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>>88634874
No, Rex is in RoTJ on Endor :^)
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>>88634873
fuck you
>>88634884
Good choice. If I had to rank my favorites, it'd be Rex, Asajj, Ahsoka.
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>>88634887
Yes it is canon. IIRC it was originally going to be an arc in Clone Wars before it was cancelled.
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>>88634887

It is. My friend keeps trying to get me to read it saying he cried and it's one of his favorite pieces of Star Wars...
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>>88632346
>pointless
You understand that the stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood right? Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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>>88634902
I just assumed that the Nightsisters used some kind of magic to keep their girls looking almost purely human
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>>88634916
Your friend sounds like a gigantic fan
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>>88634859
Or they just haven't gotten into it, there's no huge secret that can come from an explanation, or a retaliatory strike from "da mouse".

We're talking about hybrid species, have some perspective if you're going to spout nonsense.
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>>88634885
>implying Naga Sadow or Marka Ragnos are shit.
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>>88634916
Oh you'll cry, just not for the reasons you think!
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>>88634909
Also good choices, if only Asajj could've survived. But there was no other way to end her story.
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>>88634953
I would have liked her to have a redemption arc in Rebels instead of Maul.
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>>88634962
I don't think Maul will ever get a redemption arc, his story seems more tragic in its direction than redeeming
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>>88634778
If she pulls through it sounds like it will be a long recovery. I have no clue what they'll do for the Sequels but who the fuck cares, they'll figure it out. I just hope the worst predictions for her condition don't come true.
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>>88634939
>mfw more people like Marka Ragnos than Ludo Kressh
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>>88634909
>not wanting best clone continuing on protecting his General
>not wanting best clone to stomp out the filthy insurgents
>not wanting best clone to be one of the few competent villains in Rebels
> not wanting him to eventually turn after the Empire leaves him to die
> not wanting Rex to form a squad of retired clones to continue on guirella warfare against the Empire
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>>88634980
Hopefully she can have a short cameo in IX, sending Luke and Rey off at the beginning, and greeting Kylo once more at the end
I'd like her to keep appearing, hope she's fine
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>>88634980
From the rumors, they were already downsizing her role anyway. The rumor for Episode 8 is that she gets severely injured in a battle early in the movie and basically sits most of it out, with Laura Dern's character becoming the new Resistance leader while she recovers.
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>>88635001
Rex being a part of the Empire would contradict anything involving the brain chip. If he left it in, when Order 66 ended, he wouldn't have continued service.
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>>88635016
Lucky coincidence, as morbid as that is to say
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>>88635001
>Rex
>villain
It's like you completely missed the point of his character in TCW
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>>88634980
>Episode 9 gets delayed
>We get 2 anthology movies in a row
Whoop dee doo
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>>88635016
That's interesting if true. Maybe her health has been worse than publicly known for awhile?
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>>88635016
I've also heard that Laura Dern's character ends up being a disastrous leader for the Rebellion and Poe ousts her and takes over
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>>88632022
REMINDER
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>>88635075
Well it was already pretty awful, years of coke abuse have done a number on her, even before the heart attack
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Under the empire, although under control you at least had a long term of stability, and some form of control. Now with snoke's empire things are again fucked, and afterwards episode 6 things seemed fucked too
>>
Daily reminder that I raped your mother
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>>88635090
No no, you see he's getting on his knees in order to "earn" Dooku's trust
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>>88635100
Cocaine can fuck up the heart in way's that are often very hard or impossible to detect. At her age flying is often a problem too, risk of thrombosis in the legs.
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>>88635123
>he's getting on his knees in order to "earn" Dooku's trust
So when he kept telling Ventress to "just trust me" he meant...Oh.

He didn't deserve such trust.
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>>88635111
Yeah, as of Ep 8 the galaxy is probably in the most lawless state we've ever seen it

At least during the Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War you had large-scale governments

Now it's like anarchy, the Republic is gone and the First Order is too small to enact order. It's chaos out there.

They need to grow some balls over at the story group and make the Hutts fill the power gap.
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>>88635162
The Republic capital is gone, which is a really huge blow, but the Republic is still technically around
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>>88635016
>>88635085
This is just me making shit up but I'm positive Laura Dern will be playing an older Evaan Verlaine.
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>>88634647
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>>88635162
Or they never should have needlessly and blatantly reset the galaxy in the first place.
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>>88635184
That's true. I wish we knew exactly how much of their fleet was lost at Hosnian Prime and where the First Order stands relative to that

I got the feeling that both are orders of magnitude smaller than the old Empire/Rebellion
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>>88635211
Yeah well, what's done is done, anon. No point in arguing about it, and trust me, I'm pretty pissed off about it too.
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>>88635220
first order is probably smaller than the empire, since they only control the outer rim

the new republic is definitely smaller, since they cut up their fleet after jakku, since they wanted a swift disarmament
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>>88635162
The republic is still around, it's a devastating blow but they lost Coruscant in the Vong invasion in the old EU and pulled through.

Anyways, I want Episode 8's twist to be casting Kylo in a new light, like all Luke's students were secret dark siders or he's an undercover agent or something. He's really looking up to be something and I don't want him to just be another Vader wannabe.
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>>88635211
If you mean the EU removal the EU was just too bloated and too much of it was bad. Of course they went and started to build a new one...
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>>88635262
He's talking about the reset of the status quo thanks to TFA.
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>>88635256
I'm almost certain that Baby Rey killed all the students by accident with the force, and Kylo and the boys found her and pledged to keep it a secret and took the blame because ????
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>>88635256
Kylo's character isn't set up as an undercover agent at all but undoubtedly he'll have a reason for doing what he's doing. And I suspect what went down at the jedi massacre is much different than what we think and that's where the twist will come.
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>>88635211
>>88635232
Here are my 3 simple things they could have done to make TFA feel new

>Take the U-wing and TIE Striker and make them the standard craft. You know they had the concept sketches.
>Jakku is not a desert. It's a massive planet-wide junkyard like Raxus Prime from the old EU. Han Solo is there to meet our heroes because he frequently hauls scrap or whatever.
>Finn and Rey don't steal the millenium falcon, they get away just fine in the Quad-Jumper and now that's their new ship. The falcon is seen briefly in the background half-scavenged instead and Han sarcastically laments that you can't get good ships anymore.
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>>88635162
thought the Hutts were gone now, killed by Indonesians.
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>>88635282
You would be wrong because Rey was on Jakku years before the massacre.
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>>88635308
I like it a lot anon, wish I could own that slightly different version of the movie.
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>>88635308
Not you, but another couple changes that I would make

>kylo and rey fight to a stalemate or don't fight at all
>death star planet is something different
>>
anybody got a scan of Raddus' flagship from the Rogue One Visual Guide?
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>>88635308
I'm fine with everything but the U-Wing and Striker. Include them, but don't make them main ships. Keep it a variety.
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>>88635409
Fucking this.
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>>88635308
I really liked the Falcon just being there. With the Force around that particular one in ten to the fifteenth or whatever improbability becomes necessity.
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>>88635409
>kylo and rey fight to a stalemate or don't fight at all
Completely agree. The fight should go the same right up until their sabers are locked, then the planet starts splitting apart. Leave it completely ambiguous as to who would have won. Finn still gets rekt.

>death star planet is something different
Off the top of my head, it could have been a giant ring-shaped base encircling a planet where the First Order is experimenting with creating artificial black holes that will "kill suns". From far away it looks like a ringed gas giant but on closer inspection it's actually a ring-shaped station encircling the whole planet.
>that's no ring...

Y'know, kinda like a particle accelerator. Like an evil CERN on steroids.

>>88635429
Yeah, I mean they'd just be the main ships in marketing and advertising. Still have B-Wings and A-wings. Maybe Poe flies an old X-wing because he's a nostalgic fighter ace, but he's the only one.

Pic related is some concept sketches for Resistance craft that tragically didn't get used
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>>88635412
There is one but it wasn't very good. The Profundity.
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>>88635519
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>>88635546
X-wing retooling concept
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>>88635566
And last but not least, whatever this is

I still have hope that these designs will find their way into usage eventually. We all know why they played it safe with TFA but I think 3+ billion dollars later they're feeling a little more license to experiment.
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>>88635521
I know what its called I just want the cross section
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>>88635412
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>>88635519
Eh, that's basically still a giant Death Star. Granted it's less of a direct knockoff but the problem with Death Star 3 was as much about its lack of originality as a story point as it was its lack of originality as a design.

If anything the First Order, which is supposed to have learned from the mistakes of the Empire, should have avoided making a superweapon because they saw how poorly it worked when the Empire did it and they'd be better off using their resources for other things.
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>>88635596
thanks famiglia
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>>88635566
It's possible we will still see this. Pablo teased that the most advanced X-Wing model (the ones that make up the NR Navy we haven't seen yet) looks different from the ones we've seen so far.
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>>88635600
Yeah I agree, it's just that if they wanted to still do a superweapon something like a fake ring-system would at least be visually different.

I agree the first order shouldn't be interested in super weapons at all. They should be frantically trying to build as large of a fleet as possible

star forge. they should have done the star forge
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>>88632979
>Luke going full Vader

Good, Gooood
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>>88635643
oh right, I had forgotten

old rebellion used T-65
poe and the resistance are using hand-me-down T-70s
new republic kept all the good shit to themselves and has fancy new T-85s

Boy the movie did a terrible job of showing that
It all makes sense once you read the books and do a little backstory research but they just dump you right in

>First Order is a military junta inspired by the Empire but much smaller and with different methods. Their TIEs share a look with old TIEs but have been upgraded to modern combat standards
How is the casual viewer supposed to know that? they're not
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>>88634983
Kressh was a bitch compared to Ragnos
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>>88635596
>Mayor Raddus turned city hall into a battleship and became Admiral
fuckin a
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>>88635596
This guy is literally the best
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>>88635842
mon calamari are the Australian shitposters of star wars
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>>88635842
Who's Ana Kinfield and why is she so mannish?
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>>88632979
Honestly this would be amazing.
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>>88635679
>FO troopers tried to do a hit and run on the Resistance
>ship is about to leave
>power is cut off
>room is dark
>becomes illuminated by a green light
>"I am Luke Skywalker,you killed my sister,prepare to die
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>>88633693
>He probably will still want Kylo dead though, which begs the question why doesn't he just do it himself?
One Jedi can't take out the First Order.
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>>88635903
Fuck you that's funny
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>>88635600
Is it ever said how much of the thing is just some massive old star base they ripped off?
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Revan black series finally came in. Glad I got it as fast as possible, the scalping is already beginning.
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>>88635643
In my heart the next gen X-wing will always be the Thunderbolt Starfury.
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>>88635963
Yes, Han pointed it out
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>>88635709
>How is the casual viewer supposed to know that?
Theyre bigger, and have a turret, needing a pilot and a gunner.
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Any updates on Carrie besides her brother saying she's stable?
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>Luke and Rey don't like eachother at all. He finds her annoyingly impulsive to the point of being unteachable and she thinks he's an old esoteric weirdo with nothing to offer
>Kylo Ren exploits this rift and her training ends before it can really even begin

y/n to this?
I can't help but think if she gets proper training from a kind Luke who likes her, it will just suck. She'll become too powerful and there's no story there.

Realistically her training has to happen without happening.
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I want to see an Episode in Rebels centering around K-2SO and Cassian.

K-2SO a cute.
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Why is every Star Wars commercial aimed at girls now.
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>>88636072
I don't get it, where is the joke?
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>>88636109
IT'S TOO LATE NOW
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>>88636103
Marvel needs to release a K2 one shot like they did with C3
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>>88635679
>Luke goes full Vader
>Music has hints of Anakin's Dark Deeds and the Final Duel
>Sheev's cackling is added in
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>>88636106
Because girls are the most profitable gender. You can put the Star Wars label on more things catered to females than males.
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>>88636103
>I'll be there for you. Cassian said I had to.
great line
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>>88636009
And even that got turned into an excuse to show off how amazing and even double-dangerouser it was
>okay, so it's another Death Star
>No, because LOOK IT'S LIKE TEN TIMES BIGGER
>gasps all around
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>>88636106
They're just trying to bring in as many new fans as they can currently. In a few years I guarantee you it will level out. Boys are going to buy the toys anyway regardless of commercials. Cast a broad net then narrow it down later depending on who buys what.
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>>88636083
I just want actual Kylo/Rey interaction. I know it's a meme to ship them, but Adam and Daisy actually had pretty good chemistry in both main scenes together.
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>>88636190
I hated the idea of a new biggerER death star but in the actual scene Han got a few chuckles out of me
>so it's bigger, so what?
>there's always a way to destroy these things

It's a weird inside-joke for the audience but it's also something Han would realistically say
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>>88636080
Nope. Here's hoping we have some good news tomorrow.
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>>88636269
Agreed. They're both meeting in the middle in weird ways, from the dark and light

My ideal outcome for this trilogy is that they end up teaming up to take out Snoke, without any big redemption or fall but more coming to a compromise so people end up asking
>well are they Jedi or are they Sith?
neither. Just force users.
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>>88636318
I love how similar Kylo Ren's fighting style is to Anakin's
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Cassian Andor
Andor Cassian
Ando Carssian
Lando Calrissian
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>>88636356
Imagine how hard he'd bust his nut if he got ahold of that holocron Ezra had of Anakin teaching lightsaber combat
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>>88636406
Blazeit Marijuanabong
Cheroot Imhigh
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>>88636408
I love how Kylo doesn't even attack Finn when he's down. Either a twisted sense of honor or he's messing with him.
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>>88636406
Han + Lando = Hondo
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>>88636439
Totally messing with him. Right after that he just casually side-steps Finn and spins his saber around like
>yeah yeah so scary

Also at this point Kylo assumes Rey is unconscious or paralyzed or dead, since she got thrown into a giant tree like 50 feet in the air. Why not have a little fun putting down the TRAITOR?
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>>88636439
>>88636466
Neither. He's just not anywhere near as evil as he's trying to be. He beats Finn fair and square. Rey then strikes him down in anger and is about to kill him despite being disarmed. She's headed for the dark side and him to the light.
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>opening crawl of TFA calls Lor San'Tekka "an old ally"

We're never going to find out who the fuck he is, are we?
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Reminder that K2 dropped the most fire tape of 2016
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>>88636550
ghost is a little smaller than I expected
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>>88636553
Did you honestly expect that we would find out who he was within the first year of the movie? We have until the end of eternity to learn about him.
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>>88636585
I figured we'd at least have a hint by now. Guess I am being a little impatient.
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>>88636585
>put out a comic dedicated to the search to find him
>completely derail it with sidequests
Great job Poe
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>>88632574
What would be his age in Rebels timeline?
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>>88636632
He's 26 in RO, so at Rebels' current time he'd be abour 24
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>>88636632
24.
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>>88636573
>feat. Inspectah Krennic, Ghostfreight Killah, and Tha Red Squad
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>>88636625
The fact that it is an ongoing doomed the main quest from the start. If it was just a 5-issue run it would have been better.
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>>88636439
He waits for Finn to get back up because he doesn't actually want to end the fight. He wants to drag it out. So I guess it's more of 'he's messing with him'.

He drags it out with Rey too it seems like, since he never goes at her that hard when he's chasing her through the forest. His desire to have an epic cool lightsaber battle basically fucked him in the end.
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>>88636686
you, i like you
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>>88636711
thanks guy, sick digits
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>>88636106
Why not?
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>>88636531
Darkside Rey does things to me
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>>88636585
I have a feeling that Lor San Tekka will be a character explored a lot in later novels and comics. We'll probably just get the basic explanation in the movies. Presumably he was heavily connected with Luke and Kylo while Kylo was still in training.

I do think it isn't coincidence that he happens to have taken up shop on the planet Rey is on too.
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>Cassian is 26 in RO
>He says he's "been in this fight since he was 6."
>The Clone Wars were happening when he would have been 6

Was he a Separatist?
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>>88636788
Yes. Read the Visual Dictionary.
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>>88636788
Yes,his parents were Separatists
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>>88634064
>I don't even think that's what people expect from Luke.

In one of the nu-canon books, doesn't Luke reflect that he could rip the laser cannons off a Star Destroy-sized ship, but that he doesn't want to scare anyone?
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>>88636318
>tfw the Sequels end the legacy of the Jedi as the Originals ended the legacy of the Sith
>tfw only the Bendu remains
>Just as planned
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>>88634647
Kotor comics were the best.
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>>88636408

This is one of my favorite duels in the whole Star Wars canon, just because of how visceral it is.
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>>88636929
till the nucanon has anything comparable to them the old EU will be better
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>>88636926
#BenduIsSnoke
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>>88636942
Same here, it didn't get enough credit for finding the perfect balance between PT and OT
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>>88636929
Agreed. Easily my favorite comic series I've ever read. Zayne was a great character.
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>>88636582
yeah seriously. Maybe it's the low angles in Rebels. But how does that thing fit a lightspeed-capable phantom?
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It's absolutely surreal to see Rogue One just yesterday, and have Carrie Fisher die today.

RIP.
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by placing it in the back
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>>88637049
She's not dead you idiot
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>>88637075
She actually is.
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>Watching some random porn music video on pornhub
>Typical party orgy taking place on a boat
>Camera pans up one girl
>She's got a rebel alliance tattoo on her waist
>mfw

Didn't expect to see that
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>>88637012
That was mostly on Kylo's part, to be honest. And Finn vs Kylo was the only good part of that confrontation, despite it barely really being much of a fight and more Kylo dabbling in theatrics.
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>>88637084
no she's not fuck off
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>>88637049
She's stable and living for the moment.
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>>88637084
Last I heard her son said she's in stable condition which is a miracle in itself

how well she recovers, or if she does at all, is yet to be seen
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>>88636269
>>I just want actual Kylo/Rey interaction. I know it's a meme to ship them, but Adam and Daisy actually had pretty good chemistry in both main scenes together.

this is going to be another lukexleia?
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>>88637089
I saw that girl ATK girlfriends. She's cute as fuck.
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>>88636767
Much smaller than a Blockade Runner, but she makes up for it in speed. Sadly their stealth systems haven't been mentioned since season 1. Apparently they just became too notorious.
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>>88637084
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>>88637084
>Condition still unclear, she is on a ventilator

This gon be a long night
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>>88637115
I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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>>88637092
I liked the bit where Rey is running away/backing away through that narrow gap in the rocks. Reminded me of Luke backpedalling hard against Vader in ESB, sparks flying off the walls

Interestingly enough, there's a moment like that in ROTS during anakin vs. obi

one of the few pottery moments people often miss
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>>88637105
Woah yeah it's way smaller than I thought. and I'm sure their stealth systems will get mentioned again when they help them escape the battle of scarif
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>>88635596
I hope to see this badass later, I expect prison for those who didn't escape.
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>>88637171
>prison
>for Rebels who have openly retaliated against the Empire
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>>88637120
Too goddamn soon Carlos
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>>88637171
Raddus seems like the time to get a blaster and go "you're not taking me alive, Imperial dogs!"
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>>88637152
The Imperials may have found a way to compensate for the sensor scrambler. At the very least they can identity the ship by sight now, so the ability to fool registry scans is kerput.

And yeah, it isn't that big a ship. Roughly Falcon sized: http://www.starwars.com/databank/millennium-falcon
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>>88637213
seeing as how ackbar took his job, combined with vaders rampage i am pretty sure he is now calamari rings
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>>88637171
Nah, Vader's not going to take prisoners unless they're high value.

Plus if he thinks Leia is the only one who can tell them where the rebel base is, that means Raddus and the rest of the Profundity crew have probably been killed.
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>>88637222
Yeah, I was thinking along those lines earlier when it was proposed maybe he could be rescued in the comics or even Rebels when they catch up in the timeline.
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Descriptions for the new Rebels episodes are out. Warhead and Trials of the Darksaber both have descriptions.

Anon and I were right: Zeb and Chopper are the tag team for Warhead.

https://thewookieegunner.com/2016/12/23/episode-descriptions-star-wars-rebels-312-315/
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>>88637171

>I expect prison for those who didn't escape.

even Princess Leia didn't survive Rogue One.
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>>88637259
anon pls
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>>88637213
>>88637171
>the only new character from R1 who re-appears is based Admiral Raddus
he deserves it
everybody else on that ship is dead though
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>Episode 315: “Trials of the Darksaber”
>Airdate: January 21, 2017

>To help recruit her people to join the rebels, Sabine reluctantly agrees to learn to wield an ancient Mandalorian weapon but finds the challenge more difficult than expected.

Isn't it a jedi weapon that they stole thousands of years ago? Shouldn't Kanan or someone be pissed about that?
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>>88632487
they reveal why using the dark side even once makes you go "mwha ha ha I'm evil now!" even if you've had years of training. like maybe some ancient evil asshole sith or a rakatan is trying to take possession of the dark side users. or maybe having a connection to the force also gives you a connection to the afterlife, and by having a connection to the dark side you're also connected to every sith that came before. So the dark side only became evil when only assholes tried using it
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>>88637241
Would Ackbar have needed to? He was captain of the royal guard on Dac during the Clone Wars and personal advisor to King Lee Char. Seems like he'd already be incredibly high up the Mon Cal chain of command and would have had greater influence than a major turned Admiral.
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>>88637283
Jedi let things go and try not to hold grudges. The Jedi/Mando wars were loooong ago - the scars have healed enough I'd reckon.
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>>88637283
kanan isnt really a jedi anymore, and better it be used by a member of the team, instead of it falling into, say, boba fetts hands
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>>88637283
It seems more like a Sith weapon than a Jedi weapon
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>>88637259
she's a true digital goat now.
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So it's basically a done deal that Ezra and Kanan will die, isn't it? Considering they jumped to Obi-Wan so quickly in RO instead of Jedi already within their midst, we know what's coming.
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>>88637283
I think after all this time the Jedi are willing to let it go, it's significant for the Mandalorians by this point and Kanan doesn't need it
Plus Mandalore on the Rebels' side could be incredibly useful, did they join the Rebellion in the old EU?
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>>88637256
>It's a "Sabine becomes Mandalore" episode

this is gonna be good.
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>>88637241
>>88637276
You seem to be misinterpreting the context of >>88637213's post
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>>88637256
Hello there... is that a Geonosian I spy behind Rex? The Empire better demand a refund from their pest control guy!
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>>88637314
Smart bet is that Kanan dies and Ezra fucks off somewhere with a "fate unknown"

They've written themselves into a bit of a rough spot by having a show on Disney XD Channel where everybody pretty much has to die.
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>>88637283
>>To help recruit her people to join the rebels
Oh dear god please don't let Sabine become Mandalore the Cunt.
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>>88637314
They won't be dead by that point, the show is definitely continuing into the OT. I assume Obi-Wan is their only hope because they find out where he's hidden when Maul tracks him down, and he's much more powerful and significant than Kanan and Ezra.
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>>88637314
Dunno their journeys seem to be going down an older path than traditional Jedi.
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>>88637328
ZOMBIE!
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>>88637328
I really hope there's more, I want to see some Geonosians join the rebellion
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>>88637102
Nah. Rey Skywalker is a red herring. Plus they weren't actually doing anything romantic in TFA.
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>>88637342
my two cents is that kanan is just a jedi, an interesting military asset, while obi-wan is the jedi, a jedi master with a long history with vader and watching over his only son
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>>88637335
Womandalore
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>>88637368
>comfrotable?
>you're my guest
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>>88637314
Aside from personal belief that Ezra is Snoke and that Maul becomes his master, probably. There can't be any other Jedi by ANH. Since they're all looking for Obi-Wan now, Kanan and Maul will probably kill each other and Ezra will die later down the line.
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>>88637296
>>88637241
Well, Erik Bauersfeld is dead. Having Raddus survive Scarif is a pretty easy way to give the show a boost.
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>>88637392
>There can't be any other Jedi by ANH
You mean ROTJ
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>>88637392
>Ezra is Snoke

I want to hear your reasoning behind this. Lay it on me.
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>>88637406
They can still have him in the show pre-Scarif, though
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>>88637368
it would be weird if the son of Skywalker and grand/daughter of Palaptine become an item.
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>>88637407
No, actually ESB. By the time Luke goes to Yoda, they have to be gone.
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>>88637407
Oh shit, technically you're right

Tarkin says they're extinct in ANH but what does he know

it's only explicitly said later
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>>88637335
It's happening, anon.

The angsty teen artist is going to become Mandalore.

I can't wait to see the butthurt.
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>>88637392
Snoke can't be Ezra, he said he saw the rise and fall of the Empire. Ezra could see the fall, but he was born on the day of the rise. Plus, Aftermath seems to be setting up Gallius Rax as Snoke/guarding Snoke's essence or whatever.
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>>88637431
No, because Yoda doesn't outright call Luke the last of the Jedi until ROTJ.
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>>88637437
My problem with Kanan being alive is that Luke specifically has to go looking for Yoda to teach him how to be a Jedi, but Kanan's there. He could easily have two padawans.
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>>88637461
Well, there's their window. I expect they'll take it.
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>>88637412
Snoke and Ezra have very similar facial shape and structure. Both characters are CG despite the fact that Snoke isn't something that couldn't be done with makeup and prosthetics. The kind of shit Maul wants to teach Ezra isn't the way of the Sith which he has renounced and no longer calls himself Darth. Ezra found a Kylo Ren style Lightsaber and had both a Jedi and Sith holocron in his posession.
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>>88637305
For whatever it is worth in that time Kanan was Knighted by a Force vision controlled by Yoda. In terms of what they are it's a pointless matter. There is no Order, no active Temples. There is only the Force. Yoda knew he wasn't going to live to restore the Jedi Order and he made zero efforts to. When he told Luke he was the last of the Jedi it was his blessing for Luke to begin again.

I don't know if the others will survive, but then it wouldn't matter from the perspective of Luke's destiny. It is Luke's path to face the Emperor, redeem his father, and restore the Jedi. Kind of fucked up on that one.

Hell, moving on to that topic if the live do they then die with Luke's new order? As a what if, would Kanan join or would he be content to do what he always has and travel the galaxy with Hera? Would Ezra? Would Ahsoka (really big if with her)? Would they teach others or leave Luke to start fresh with a new generation?
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>>88637472
That's why obviously Kanan will die and Ezra will exile or become a guardian of the whills/etc.

full circle from his silly light-slingshot to a light-bow

although I prefer if he exiles to hang out with Bendu. The series will 100% at least end with neither Kanan or Ezra identifying as Jedi.
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>>88637472
Kanan's not really the best teacher, though. I mean he's not bad, but if you have a kid you've been watching for two decades and waiting for the time to show him the Jedi way so he can defeat the Sith, I think you're going to want him in more experienced hands.
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>>88634647
I know it ain't gonna happen, but I like the idea of him showing up. maybe rey or kylo stupidly finds him wandering as a ghost through the depths of korriban and runs the fuck out of there because he's the embodiment of the dark side
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>>88635256

Kylo's unstable tantrum behavior makes me pretty sure he'll tiptoe and potentially be swayed to the light.
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I've pondered the possibility that Vader survived. What potentially would have happened next for him?

Would the Rebellion/Republic execute him for everything he had done?

If not, would he offer services to the Rebellion/Republic?.. to his Son and the revival of the Jedi?


Something tells me if he were to survive, and be redeemed in some fashion.. it wouldn't last.

He has gone a very long time where anyone pisses him off in the slightest he can just choke them, and nobody was going to do anything about it. I don't think he'll be able to control his quick temper, along with the ever deep festering rage he has toward himself.
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>>88637501
>Snoke and Ezra have very similar facial shape and structure
In the sense that they have two eyes, a nose and a mouth, yes.
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>>88637517
>Yoda knew exactly how important it all was and still decided to troll Luke a little bit

Yeah I know he was testing Luke's character but Yoda was definitely having a little fun there.
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>>88637535

I feel like he'd exile himself.
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>>88637442
Ezra's certainly gonna have a tweaked butthole, that's for sure.
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>>88637550
That's what I hope Kylo does.
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>>88637535
>Would the Rebellion/Republic execute him for everything he had done?
Yep
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>>88637535
Wouldn't be executed but he wouldn't join the New Republic either. He'd probably just leave and maybe pop in to help Luke here and there.
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>>88637406
The thing with Ackbar is he's been voiced by many people. Tom Kane has voiced him in a number of productions, the most recent being Lego Star Wars: The Force Awakens. In The Clone Wars he was voiced by Artt Butler.

It depends on whether they'd retire the character out of respect for the original performer dying, but I cannot see them doing that any more than they did Artoo when Kenny Baker passed away.
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>>88637556
>implying he doesn't already
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>>88637472
Luke's destiny ultimately led him to Yoda. You seem to forget that destiny and the will of the Force tend to play a significant role in where you go. Yoda offered a much more complete experience, even though the length of his training was cut short. Kanan and Ezra are soon to be on another path because their destiny does not see them at the center of events - the key to destroying the Sith being a particular person on Tatooine pretty much speaks for itself on that.
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>>88637539
Not that it really matters. Even if they did look similar, the theory falls apart just by the fact that Ezra is human and Snoke's been confirmed to be an alien.
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>>88637517
>>88637472
there's three years in between ANH and ESB (unless they retcon that). If Kanan was around, Luke should be a lot stronger in the force at the beginning of ESB.
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>>88637461
>>88637472

or maybe Yoda's figured out that defeating Vader isn't just "teach someone how to kick ass with a lightsaber and The Force", but that facing one of his children would be a weak spot in his Dark Side "fuck you I'm going to my pressurized chamber and listening to heavy jizz" edginess. and that Luke wouldn't go "hey dad, remember the time you were a good friend?" if he knew there were other Jedi hiding around the galaxy
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>More weak Sabine episodes.

Can she please just be Filoni'd? Her episodes are always terrible and the character is bland and boring.
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>>88637507

So is that thing like a bowcaster, only "automatic" so non-Wookiees can use it?
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>>88637472
Ben wouldn't want Luke to and presumably would tell him as much. In Vader Down he appeared to Luke and told him to leave a Temple alone, that it wasn't the time for him yet to be poking around for Jedi secrets. And that was just an ancient building!
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>>88637610
They're all boring outside of Kanan and Kallus, anon.
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>>88637572
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>>88637539
>>88637589
Do not be so sure.
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>>88637535
>>88637550
>>88637564

Yeah he'd end up going off and Dagobah'ing himself so he can find Anakin inside Vader. He had a moment of clarity at the end of Jedi but it would still be a long path and he's such a tainted figure he wouldn't feel comfortable anywhere he goes. And it's not like he could just take off the suit. Even if he's no longer Darth Vader he has to live in the suit.
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>>88637636
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>>88637636
What about Snoke being seven feet tall and Ezra being space middle eastern?
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>>88637628
Ezra had some decent character development and Zeb has gotten much better as the seasons have gone on. Hera is decect enough. Chop is Chop, best murder droid.
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>>88637636
Like I said, they have two eyes, a nose and a mouth. There's nothing there that makes Ezra resemble him any more than any other human character.

Hell, Ezra's giant nose should already disqualify him since Snoke's is tiny.
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>>88637652
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>>88637392
Ezra is going to be canon Starkiller
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>>88637589
Snoke is Plagueis confirmed!
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>>88637655
They're all serviceable for a kid's show. Kanan and Kallus are the only ones I've actually been consistently interested in. And Kanan's only that good because he's had far more mediums to tell his stories.
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>>88637636
>>88637652
>>88637667
I'm not seeing it.
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I feel like when we try to explain who Snoke is, we're really just trying to find a way for his true identity to not be dumb as hell.

I am already cringing at the thought of Snoke's real identity being revealed in Episode 8, and it being incredibly stupid. Stupider than either Ezra or Plagueis.
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>>88637636
>>88637652
>>88637667
Daily reminder Snoke is a buttslut
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>>88637665
Then you should get your eyes checked.
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>>88637652
>>88637667
Snoke is clearly the youngling that Vader failed to kill so very long ago. Little fucker is tougher than anyone thought. This explains his beef with the Skywalker family.
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>>88637690
I just think he's a new ancient Force user, he seems very old.
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>>88637611
Well, it says it uses the same basic principle as a bowcaster, so I guess so

in R1 it packed a lot of punch but not as much as Chewie's bowcaster in TFA so you're probably on point
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>>88637653
Osama bin Laden was 6'5"
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>>88637698

Yeah I have no fucking clue why everyone thinks he has to be or is even going to be a callback. My first and only thought was that he was some ancient string puller.
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>>88637691
teaching the art of the buttslut to Kylo. I like it.
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>it's a retarded snoke theory episode in /co/
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>>88637690
I like the idea that both Snoke and Rey are Sith experiments in experimenting with the midi-chlorians to make stronger Force users.
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>>88637695
>that kid had a name
Damn it, now it's just sad instead
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>>88637690
It's Mace, bet on it
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>>88637713
I didn't mean that he couldn't be tall because he's Space Middle Eastern, I just meant he's already 17 and not near 7 feet tall, and also that Snoke is very pale.
>>88637716
I hope he's not related to the Sith. I want them to be gone
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>>88637524
He would honestly work really well in a movie as long as they toned down his powerlevel to be consistent with nu-canon

It's a really fucking good design
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>>88637691
>>88637719
Leia's line to Han about Snoke seducing him just became a lot grosser.
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>>88637729
Does that face on the far right even happen in the movie? It looks like Hayden's been abusing drugs.
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Post best droid.
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>>88637690
He's not going to be anyone we know. The only reason the SNOKE IS ____ theories have prevailed so much is because the SNOKE IS PLAGUEIS one was so popular (and even then it came from a misunderstanding of a false rumor about Snoke being a resurrected ancient Sith Lord, which made people go "Plagueis!" due to the secret of death-cheating but ignored the fact that Plagueis wasn't ancient). With the Plagueis theory confirmed false people are latching onto anything else in an attempt to preserve the idea that there's going to be a twist to Snoke's identity.
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>>88637745
It's somebody's fetish.
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>>88637716
palpatine was building the death star to blast this idiot out of existence. snoke thought "holy shit that thing's awesome! Mine's bigger, though"
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>>88637690
It's going to be dumb no matter what and i doubt it can be explained very well.

Will his identity even be revealed in Ep8? Seems more likely they'll save that for 9.
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>>88637748
It's probably from behind-the-scenes.
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>>88637748
Nope, just Hayden laughing between takes
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>>88637762
All we know is it's confirmed Rey's parentage will be revealed in 8.
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>>88637739
You don't need to tone down his power level so much as not even mention it. As you say, it's a good design. It's spooky. Play that up. Make him a ghost, a monster from the depths of space, haunting some distant swath of the galaxy. Basically make him Sith Cthulhu, a force of pure malevolence who swells out of the dark and retreats when the heroes have escaped. You don't even need to reveal his identity, just let him do his thing.
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>>88637773
Unpopular opinion but I still want her to be a Skywalker
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>>88637739
i like the idea of him commanding a mythical ghost ship sometimes seen in the distance but never fully appeared, like a futuristic flying dutchman
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"?
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>>88637781
Ah, but she'll become a Skywalker... when she marries Kylo! You're all invited to the wedding.
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>>88637779
If they keep the powerlevel the same, then the new EU will start falling victim to the old EU's power creep and they'll have to go bigger and bigger in scale.
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>>88637781
Kylo's cousin or sister?
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>>88637781
I think she has to be. Besides, if they're revealing it in 8, a movie more or less all about her training with Luke, it seems like the logical conclusion.
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>>88637797
That would make her a Solo or Solo-Skywalker or Solo-Skywalker-Organa
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>>88637787
>a futuristic flying dutchman

I fucking love it anon.
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because of JJ Abrams and his Mystery Box, Snoke is either:

A) somebody who has been very carefully omitted from all canon material, so there is no way to guess who he is until the big reveal.

or

B) the most obvious "twist" ever, the one everyone overlooks because it's too obvious (so, uh... Plagueis?)
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>>88637800
Cousin
>>88637807
I hope it's not a really lame "I am your father" callback. I could do with a wink at the line, but not a big twist about it.
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>>88637808
Soskyworgana!
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>>88637690
Everybody at Lucasfilm has already told us that Snoke is a character we've never seen before, why people still choose to believe otherwise is beyond me.
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>>88637799
The whole idea of Nihilus is that he's the Sith's quest for power and fulfillment taken to its most terrible conclusion. He has ultimate power, the power to devastate star systems, but it's come at the cost of his very existence. Remember how Kreia described him: more presence than man. He basically doesn't exist as an individual any more, he's just a ravenous black hole of hunger. I think his power level is fine if the costs of it are kept consistent. He's an extremely unique case, one no sane Sith would ever aspire to.
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>>88637781
That would ruin or make better the best pairing though.
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>>88637816
Or he has no secret identity and is really just Snoke
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>>88637819
He probably doesn't know and they find out together later. Her mom probably kept her secret from him because they couldn't be together or something and she needed to hide her for some reason.
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>>88637837
Speaking for myself, I was skeptical because 2015 was one long year of studios lying to audiences.

>It's not Khan, guys, we swear!
>It's not Blofeld, guys, we swear!
>Jon Snow's dead, guys, we swear!
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>>88637816
The Plageuis theory only makes sense if JJ had absolutely no say in it, because we're talking about the guy who removed the podracing flags from Maz's castle. It's a stretch that he'd have the main villain be heavily dependent on the prequels for context.

Making Snoke Plagueis would be like telling people "hey go back and watch ROTS again" and that's not something JJ would do

so either Snoke is Plagueis and it wasn't JJ's decision, or he's the son from Mortis you fucks I keep telling you. They'll just say he's "the manifestation of the dark side" but we'll all know what it means and later they'll clarify it in a book. Casual viewers won't care.
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>>88637837
BECAUSE JON SNOW WAS DEAD RIGHT?

No, seriously, I keep getting that as a reply whenever I tell people that Pablo and/or anyone else has already confirmed something. Apparently because GoT did it everyone must also be doing it.
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>>88637847
I hope that's the case, the novel implies her mother left her on Jakku. Her flashback has her listening to a woman's voice.
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>>88637819
The "I am your father" callback in Ep 8 will be Luke telling Rey "I killed your parents"
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>>88637845

well, yeah. that's the most likely (I'd consider that to be the first option though, since Snoke isn't showing up in comics or novels even when based on when they're set, he probably should)
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>>88637626
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>>88637853
>>88637861
Well Jon Snow was technically dead
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>>88637837
Cause they can't even hint as to who he really is?

I'm not on the Plagueis bandwagon by any means but it would be pretty cool if he was Snoke. Though i'd be happy with him being a completely new character as long as it makes sense and explained well as to where he was and up to during the OT.

I just hope to god he isn't Rax cause Wendig's novels should be erased from history.
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>>88637879
Patricide is all the rage
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>>88637886
If he isn't from the prequels he sure as fuck had better not be somebody from the shitty NuEU. That is every bit as lame as when Darth Krayt was fucking A'Sharad Hett, from a graphic novel nobody read (but I read it, though).
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>>88637886
The two reasons I don't want Snoke to be Plagueis is because the muuns are really dumb looking, but that was before we saw what Snoke looked like. I don't want him to be Plagueis now because I want him to be something new and for Anakin to have killed the Sith for good.
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>>88637504
>live through the purge
>live through the rebellion
>survive the inquisitors and even lord vader
>live to be the disciple of luke skywalker, son of the legendary anakin, hero of yavin, restorer of the jedi temple
> teach new jedi, the same as you did to ezra
>get killed by your own student
even if kanan survived the civil war, his life will not end well
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>>88637922
Good news, he's not Plagueis.
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>>88637886
What if Snoke is Plagueis' "son?"

Everyone thought Plagueis was Anakin's force-dad when ROTS came out but Word of God says that Anakin was the Force's answer to Plagueis' attempts at creating life. What if Snoke was the life Plagueis created, twisted and deformed by the Dark Side?
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>>88637929
I still have hope that Luke reveals some of his council survived and he calls them to action. And among them is an old Togruta.
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>>88637853
I can understand being skeptical, but Snoke's originality was repeated both before and after release. He's new.

>>88637886
>Cause they can't even hint as to who he really is?
He's Snoke. That's all he is.

>>88637912
>>88637944
Snoke isn't anybody but himself.
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>>88637886
Personslly, I would hate for it to be Plagueis because that would ruin the whole point of Palpatine's story about him. It has a very clear meaning and metaphor and that fantastic bit of storytelling should not be destroyed just for that fajserivxe aimed at the kind of idiots who just want edgy shit and action scenes and never paid attention to the deeper nuances of Star Wars.
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>>88637854
Not sure why JJ would have a say in his identity when he only co-wrote TFA
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>>88637816
We already figured out Snoke is Gallius Rax. It's obvious
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>>88637944
I kind of like this idea
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>>88637951
how would ahsoka respond if she learned that vader turned back to the light, and killed the emperor at the cost of his own life?
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>>88637944
I'm intrigued by this idea.
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>>88637974
Be pissed that she spent all that time on Malachor training for no reason
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>>88637960
but can Snoke go deep?
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>>88637960
Literally who?
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>>88637990
Exactly
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>>88637951
>>88637987
She's literally dead. Bringing back Maul in TCW set such a horribly retarded precedent for this franchise and now no one can seem to accept that characters die and everyone just expects every character to come back to life. It's fucking stupid.
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>>88637472
I think they're gonna explain this, it's evident they're going to Tatooine at some point, they're gonna meet Obi-Wan and I think they're gonna find out about Luke but Obi will tell them why they can't train Luke.
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>>88637989
Balls deep into a bucket of Ben and Jerry's ice cream. Seriously, his chosen leader of the Knights of Ren and military general Hux both fail to protect an entire planet. And that fucker was EXPENSIVE.
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>>88638026
>leave luke to me
>your duty lies elsewhere
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_(species) maybe snoke is a dried out husk of one of these that has lived so long his body has begun to slowly decompose
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>>88634428
its 8% extra while on a swing stage for us glaziers. but we dont even get that while working on the slab edge so they probably dont get shit
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What's the comfiest Star Wars planet, /swco/?
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>>88638040
>implying they would miss a chance to use the "your destiny lies along a different path" line
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>>88638026
I think Kanan is going to die killing Maul before he has a chance to reach Obi-Wan, so they never meet, and Ezra just decides to leave it be.
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>>88638068
That is the shittiest looking ring I've ever seen.

Anyways I like Naboo, I'd live there a good hundred years before the Trade Federation invasion.
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>>88638076
oh damn, i did not use that line, i am ashamed

but yeah, as good a swordfighter kanan is, luke needs a real master, one who knows the spiritual side as well as the physical. that side is usually the last to be learned and kanan was only a padawan when he ran
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>>88637152
I don't know if their signature modulator is still useful. It's also possible they did have a way to completely mask their signature. That was an infamous debate back at the beginning when certain anons were completely buttblasted that the Ghost managed to sneak up to a Star Destroyer and land without being spotted. Nevermind that the ship's name is the Ghost, that Star Destroyer had recently suffered a ship exploding under the main hanger thanks to Sabine. It's not like damage to the ship wouldn't account for these issues.
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>>88637507
So what more do we know about these "Guardian's of the Whills"?

Also it seemed to me Chirrut is a force sensitive dude who just lacks training, is that correct? Have they specifically said anything to the contrary?
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>>88637283
Kanan would have zero reason to be upset. MAUL on the other hand...
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>>88638103
it is not unprecedented, the millenium falcon managed to hug the side of an ISD

it is probably just hard
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>>88638090
Yeah. Anyways, here's a screenshot of Naboo in SpaceEngine
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I'm the anon from a few threads back who was replaying Rogue Squadron 64 for the first time in like 15+ years

fuck Escape from Fest
fuck the whole planet Fest
Cassian is from Fest

Every other mission is fine but they designed this one to be frustrating on purpose
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>Clone Wars Character in Rouge one
>No Rebel characters in Rouge one

Are they all le killed?
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>>88638068
always found dantooine pretty comfy personally, back when star wars galaxies was a thing i used to have a city there
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>>88638068
Coruscant if you're rich. Corellia (the Star Wars Galaxies version) or Dantooine (KotOR version) if you aren't.
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>>88637958

other than that Snoke is at least partially JJ's creation. and if JJ has a say in anything, it's that everybody has to have a secret identity that's totally obvious to anyone paying attention, but he'll swear up and down it's not true, like how Benedict Cumberbach was totally playing somebody other than Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness. really he is, it's gonna be great. wait and see! it's a big surprise who-

Kirk: who are you?
Khan: MY NAME IS KHAN

[SPOILER]he's probably the Rancor keeper from Jabba's palace and wants revenge for Luke killing his best friend[/SPOILER]
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>>88636109
If someone makes a circle with their thumb and index finger below the waist and gets you to look, they get to punch you.
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>>88638068
From the few glimpses we get in ROTS, Alderaan takes it

Scarif might actually be my personal favorite now though.
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>>88638133
the Ghost was literally in the final space battle, they were part of the action, just weren't the focus. maybe we'll see it happen from their perspective in the show eventually
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>>88638132
Fest was the fucking worst in that but one of the best missions in Dark Forces was on Fest.
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>>88638133
Somebody missed Chopper, General Syndulla and The Ghost.
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>>88638133
>He doesn't know about Chopper and "General Syndulla"
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>>88638158
more sexy alderaan
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>>88638133
Look closely, bottom left
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>>88638107
Force Sensitive? Definitely. Lacks training? I'm pretty sure that isn't it. Being Force Sensitive isn't enough, there are tests. He can be Sensitive and still not Jedi material. Or you can be powerful but still not pass their tests. They didn't even want to train Anakin and he clearly had the gift. Sometimes the just have their reasons.

Given the Guardians were specifically guarding an ancient Jedi Temple, though, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the modern guardians are descendants of Jedi. The gift could be there but watered down. We have no indication the Jedi had been using it prior to Order 66, right? I thought it was like Lothal's Temple. Not in use, however unlike Lothal's it was not lost. It's more tourist material. Only the faithful maintain the old duties.
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>>88638133
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>>88638120
Kallus' ISD hadn't moved since the encounter with the Ghost and capturing Ezra. Presumably they were undergoing repairs. I wouldn't be surprised if a pilot like Hera could manage to jump so close to the ISD she'd be under their radar, so to speak.
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>>88638140
This is oddly classified as a Cold Terra in SpaceEngine.
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>>88638165
>best missions in Dark Forces was on Fest.
>Falling into basically unseeable gorges is fun
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>>88638068
Boz Pity and Naboo
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>>88638079
I have conflicted feelings about the inevitable Tatooine episode.

It seems like it will be the final showdown for Maul there and having him fight Obi again is an obvious opportunity for pottery but it just seems wrong to me, like wouldn't these 2 going at it all out in the open draw the attention of Vader and Sheev? I mean we've seen them feel "disturbances in the force" while on different fucking planets.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the first time Sheev gave Maul a nice Sheeving didn't he go to Mandalore cause he just fucking felt it? He had only just become ruler I mean there's no way news got back to him that fast and I remember him just being like "prepare my ship" in his office like he just knew it was time to go put Maul back in his place.

I would certainly think a Maul v Obi conflict would draw them out but you can't have Vader and Sheev and all kinds of Empire shit showing up on Tattooine right now I mean they'd discover Obi for sure and quite possibly Luke.
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Just remembered that Kylo's name is Ben and how stupid that is.
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>>88638240
not as stupid as Anakin or Jacen Solo
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>>88638187
>>88638204
Well shit guess i'm just blind how many of the OG ghost crew do you think are actually there tho.
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>>88638231
That's hardly much of an issue since most of the level is inside a base. Also, it has a huge concentration of enemies to mow down. Not to mention, it comes right after that god awful sewer mission.
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>>88638250

Actually yes much more stupid. They had no reason whatsoever to name their kid Ben.
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>>88638250
Jacen is cool as fuck you doofus
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>>88638144
Wish Coruscant didn't look like literal scorched earth from space.
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>>88638191
>A small desert moon frosted by a permanent winter, Jedha is home to one of the first civilizations to explore the nature of the Force. At one time a world important to the Jedi Order, Jedha serves as a holy site for pilgrims from across the galaxy who seek spiritual guidance. Now, the Empire occupies Jedha, and a prolonged battle between Imperial forces and scattered Rebels carries on in the timeworn streets.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/jedha

Shame it's destroyed now. I hope we get to see it in Rebels to explore a bit more of the history of the place.

Apparently it has connections to the Church of the Force, those weirdos like Lor San Tekka, who don't necessarily have the Force as their ally but nevertheless worship it.
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>>88638237
well, obi-wan and luke lived on tatooine for years, and vader never found him

and if it was possible for jedi to spot other jedi from different planets, then jedi would never get a single moment of quiet
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>>88638256
>Not to mention, it comes right after that god awful sewer mission.
True. Fuck that level.
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>>88638271
Well one city was destroyed, there's probably more
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>>88638263
That's just Cybertron.

Pablo is making it canon, baby!
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>>88638068

If you don't say Naboo you're a faggot
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>>88638283

but that was "The Holy City", and the one with the temple, so anywhere else is probably who-gives-a-fuck tier.

>>88638259

it's just a space way of spelling "Jason".
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>>88638237
My problem is this: as rad and fun as it would be too see Obi-Wan fight Maul one last time and it makes sense for him to kill him, it actually shits on the point of the arc in TCW where Maul kills Satine and Obi-Wan decides not to embrace his anger and pain to kill Maul for it. He makes the opposite choice that Anakin would have made, the choice of a true Jedi. Filoni and company being entirely unable to resist pursuing this fan service final duel shits on that fantastic bit of storytelling and character development.
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>>88638283
Maybe not. It's a cold desert moon. Permanent winter. Not exactly hospitable and the only thing it seemed to have going for it was the Holy City.

And of course there was only one Temple of the Whills. Not like it mattered given the Empire had already gutted the place for every precious kyber.
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>>88638309
A cool way of spelling it, at least it's a unique name. Ben is just stupid.
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>>88638309
It might be the most important site on Jedha, but I'm sure there's other things to be found around the planet. Especially considering how long it was been relevant to the galaxy.
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>>88638313
>implying bureaucrats ever get anything done anyway

Though, Jar-Jar was literally the one who let Palps become Empire...
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>>88638237
Sensing something with the Force has never been entirely consistent, though it seems like you're more likely to pick up on something if you're already kind of thinking about it.

Plus Vader didn't sense Obi-Wan until he was in the same hangar. It might be one of those things where you don't notice it until it's right there next to you and then you go "well shit, was that always there?"
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>>88638316
See, Jedha actually looked like a cold desert.

Unlike Jakku, another supposedly "cold" desert.
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>>88638321
Ben is the perfect name for a crazy space hobo. Han's kid isn't worthy of it.
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>>88638191
My understanding has always been

>the force = a force in the star wars universe like friction of gravity, it's just a thing that exists and some people are sensitive to it and use it to do stuff

>the jedi/sith = religions with their own views on the force and how it should be used

I guess I'd like to know more about the Guardians and what exactly their faith, if it is a faith based organization like it seems to be, entails. They seem connected to the jedi but what makes them different? Was it like an organization for people who agreeed with jedi teachings but couldn't become jedi for some reason or is there some big philosophical difference?
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>>88638331

wat how is Jakku supposed to be cold? Rey and Finn are sweating and both go to immediately chug water in exhaustion after hard work.
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>>88638315
But the point wasn't that Obi-Wan would never kill Maul, just that he wouldn't let the pain of losing Satine overcome him the way Maul wanted it to. Obi-Wan isn't the type to seek Maul out purely for revenge but that doesn't mean he wouldn't kill him if needed, and if Maul shows up on Tatooine as a threat not only to him but potentially to Luke, Obi-Wan would pretty much have to.
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>>88638331
In what way is Jakku cold? Rey walks around wearing nothing but gauze wraps and Finn sheds all his armor and layers because he's sweating to death in the desert heat. The movie made it abundantly clear that it was hot as shit.
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>>88638331
Deserts that look like Jakku can get really cold at night
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>>88638330
Proximity clearly helps. Then we have Vader and Luke sensing each other in ROTJ but the Emperor hadn't. It's...unreliable, I guess we could say.
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>>88638347
>>88638364
Yeah, they did a really poor job of illustrating it, but apparently it was brought up in the Blu-ray commentary or something.
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>>88638237
I feel like this would make the most sense if whatever is supposed to happen on Tatooine went down while the final battle in Rogue One is happening. I can't remember Bail's exact dialogue but it seemed as though the Rebellion hadn't actually been in contact with Obi-Wan since the Clone Wars, even if they were looking to get him involved again, which they might've been by that point.

That also just made me realize. Bail is probably gonna be the one to tell them where Ben even is, considering he was in on the plan to hide Luke there, and Ezra has enough details to make it clear what he's talking about.
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>>88638255
Well all we see is Chopper, and we hear "General Syndulla" so that's probably Hera

everybody else is up in the air
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>>88638363
It was a perfect conclusion to Maul and Obi-Wan's intertwined story. Maul got his revenge, Obi-Wan became a stronger Jedi and rose above the cycle of vengeance. Them fighting again absolutely ruins it.
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>>88638382
Filoni said it's definitely Hera
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>>88638388
The problem is that you keep seeing Obi-Wan fighting Maul again as a matter of revenge. It's not and never has been.
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>>88638388
>Obi-Wan became a stronger Jedi and rose above the cycle of vengeance
It didn't strengthen him, it just confirmed he was already strong. It was never about revenge to begin with, at least not on Obi-Wan's side.
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>>88638237
>>88638315
>>88638363
>>88638388

As much as I love what Filoni's done the ONLY way you can do Maul justice in an ending is in the Ewan McGregor Obi-Wan standalone and just let them fucking go at it.
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>>88638401
Are you retarded? That is literally Maul's obsession. You have no understanding of storytelling. Their purpose in each other's story has long been concluded, bringing them back together in any way, under any circumstance, is unequivocally bad and undoes a good story for the sake of fanservice aimed at idiots like you who can't comprehend the subtlety and impact of what came before. It would be shit and should not happen.
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>>88638439
It can't be done in a movie, that's asking casual viewers to look at hours of cartoon material before watching so that they're not confused.
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>>88638388
Obi-Wan didn't let it hurt him as much as Maul wanted and didn't give in to his pain and anger. That doesn't mean Obi-Wan's just never going to fight Maul again- he was already trying to track him down in Son of Dathomir, after all.

It'd be idiotic if Old Ben decided he needed to go find and kill Maul, but we don't know if that's the case or if the confrontation will happen with Maul finding him first.
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>>88638457
Too late, Saw Gerera existing in Rogue One already does that and Ezra being Snoke will as well.
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>>88638452
I should clarify, it was never about revenge for Obi-Wan. He never wanted revenge.
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>>88638473
Saw doesn't need any background, he's just a rebel. Maul being alive would be confusing.
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>>88638457

It really would not be hard at all to explain. Show robo-legs and that's all the audience needs to know.

If they've seen Anakin literally immolated and come back through cybernetics I doubt they'd have trouble comprehending robo legs to fix bisection.

See the casual viewer doesn't NEED to know the baggage with Satine. There's already enough there through solely Episode I to allow for a conflict. It's just icing on the cake if you know more.
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>>88638344
The Guardians are to all intents just that - they guard the ancient holy temple. They weren't a secret non-Jedi Force Order. We don't know if this "first civilization to explore the nature of the Force" are Jedi or how many steps removed the Jedi are from them, but we do know eventually the place was important to them.

And of course in modern canon EVERYONE has the Force. You need it to survive. Everyone can even use it to a greater or lesser extent, but far more often a much lesser. Things like intuition, deja vu, or vague premonitions, even Han's "luck" are all aspects of the Force. The vast majority will never be consciously aware of it, and like Han you don't have to acknowledge it to benefit. True Force Sensitivity allows you to hear the midi-chlorians to the extent you become self-aware of the Force on a conscious level. Whether it is truly because they have more midi-chlorians or not, we do know they generate far higher levels of Living Force, presumably a manifestation of their powers. This means that power levels are most certainly a thing, just mercifully a very vague thing.

Some groups like the Dagoyan Masters merely use it passively for visions. Others like the Night Sisters utilized an aspect of the Force that was much different from Jedi and Sith, and while they were indeed powerful and could perform feats the Jedi and Sith haven't manifested, their power was tied to their world of Dathomir.

I personally do not think the Guardians are a Force Using order. I think any true Force Users would have ended up rolled into the Jedi. They're just an ancient order of security guards. Believers, yes, and sensitive to an extent. Chirrut, for instance, has a kyber sliver in his staff which allows him to sense where the tip of his weapon is. He also, of course, sensed Jyn's necklace.
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>>88638499
The thing with Maul is the casual viewer would probably find it fucking retarded without context. Even with context lots of people feel that way anyway, so I don't think it'd work quite as well. At least with Saw he wasn't in any other films before, and with Anakin, it was shown how that all happened, so it wasn't out of nowhere.
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>>88638380
That could work I suppose. Maybe some of the ghost crew goes on the mission but Kanan and Ezra go to do Jedi stuff on Tatooine and it all goes down while Vader is busy.

>>88638275
Pretty sure a former Sith Lord and Jedi Master going at it would cause more... force ripples? Than a kid and an old man just hanging out/living ordinary lives.

I think actively using the force makes you "detectable" but if you're just chilling you're fine.

>>88638330
True. Maybe I'm overthinking it all.

The more important question might be, how do you want Maul's story to finally end?

The way I see it there's 3 options
>Killed by Obi
>Killed by Vader
>Killed by Sheev

Honestly killed by Obi is my least favorite but it seems like the direction they're heading. I would like a Vader showdown just because it would again assert Vader as Sheev's strongest apprentice and if they incorporated the pottery from that one comic where he kills a Maul clone I think it would just be wonderful (the "what could you hate enough to destroy me?" "myself" part). Killed by Sheev would be the most fun imo but it would make the least sense, Sheev don't have to get his hands dirty for nothing anymore.
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More based bob cut waifu when?
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Now I'm pissed off because an Obi-wan standalone movie would be great and Ewan wants to do it

but you can't really do it justice without some kind of conflict, and Maul is perfect for it but in live action it would come across silly and people would be confused

So we're left with what? The adventures of Obi-wan doing some other shit? Poor Ewan.
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>>88638452
>Their purpose in each other's story has long been concluded
Except even within the episode, it wasn't. Obi-Wan was still going to go tell the Jedi what happened and come back with a fighting force. The episode proved if anything that Obi-Wan wasn't going to give in to Maul's bait, and Maul didn't really get a chance to savor the revenge he wanted because he expected Obi-Wan to stew in his misery, something Obi-Wan wouldn't do. Obi-Wan won't kill out of revenge but that doesn't mean he wouldn't fight Maul again.

Maul wanting to still get revenge on Obi-Wan illustrates his obsessive nature and his refusal to accept his own failures- he's tried time and again to move past it but he keeps failing at everything he tries, and because he still views Obi-Wan defeating him as the start of all of his problems he mentally keeps going back to that moment because he's the type to convince himself that none of his failures are truly his own fault and continue to obsess over that one moment that to him, is the root cause of everything always going wrong.
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>>88638539

They you just do a flashback. Have Obi reflecting on things throughout the movie and he starts to remember TPM and everything that happened only when it gets to the death of Maul it then starts to pan down down down the shaft to Maul at the bottom seething with rage and crawling out. Obviously I'm not a writer I'm just saying there are simple ways that the viewers will accept.
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>>88638539
>find it fucking retarded without context
We never really got any context in TCWs. We still don't know HOW Maul survived, we just know he did. They have wisely never bothered to go into specifics.

Frankly I don't think it would be that hard to sell a fight between the Old Wizard of Tatooine and the "ghost" of Darth Maul. A far more complicated matter, I would think would be managing to satisfyingly stretch this into a two hour movie.
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>>88638540
If Maul is gonna actually die on-screen then I think it has to be in a duel with Ezra considering how their relationship's been set up. Either by Ezra's hand or his own, or he's just left to die in wherever it is they're fighting. Could even be a fight that goes down before they ever actually reach Tatooine.

Kanan might work too, if it's a scenario where he's sacrificing himself or some shit and goes down with him.
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>>88638556

I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility.

It would literally fucking print money. Maul is the most successful marketable villain in Star Wars after Vader. Moreso than the Emperor. Hell many people/kids like Maul and his saberstaff more than Vader.
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The nu Battlefront season pass is $19 right now

Should I? I got the game free when it first came out too.

It's somewhat more enjoyable now than when it first launched, but the amount of content in the vanilla game is awful.
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>>88638590
Hell, Maul almost died last season in Rebels. His survival came by a grace of storytelling, and the fact that they decided not to have him face Darth Vader.
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>>88638499
M8 people would be up in arms that they jumped the shark. They cannot bring Maul back on the big screen.

Disney would never risk triggering people's prequel PTSD like that.
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>>88638610

Man that episode is one of my favorite things in Star Wars but the fact that Vader and Maul were in the same place same time and never came face to face will always haunt me.
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>>88638612

Maul's one of the few things from the prequels people actually like and accept though.

You gotta think the only people who fucking HATE the prequels are Star Wars autists like us. But those same people will have watched Clone Wars and Rebels without a doubt. Normies don't actually hate the prequels.
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>>88638589
I feel like I can think of a few ways they could stretch that scenario out. Really, the biggest problem IMO is not even the fact that Maul's return in a movie would have to be explained somehow, it's that he's too connected to the Rebels cast now. I feel like whatever happens with him has to relate to them more than to Obi-Wan at this point, with the way things have gone.
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>>88638610
I'm glad they didn't. The fanboy in me would love to see them fight but it would be so hollow. Neither of them have any real connection to each other. You could stretch it and say Vader may be mad at Maul for killing Qui-Gon but I think Vader's long put that behind him and has other things that weigh on his mind. Maul can't even be mad at Vader for replacing him since Vader's the replacement of the actual guy that replaced him.
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>>88638598
You know what? The more I think about it, the more I can see it. A trailer for the Obi-wan movie comes out and at the end you just get a faint glimpse of Maul

people go into an absolute shitfit on social media because "HUH? WHAT?"

this leads to them retroactively watching Rebels maybe. not a lot, but a few

It's so cheesy though. It would only work once. I want it to happen though because I don't care about casual viewers being confused and Ewan desperately wants to do another Obi adventure

fuck it, let's see what happens. It would print money you're right and maybe that's the one thing that matters
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>>88638623
It haunted Maul well enough. He did NOT like the feeling of Vader approaching.

Ironic, really, that he is canonically one of the most powerful and best trained Sith to have ever lived, yet he is nothing but a running gag of constant fuckups.
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>>88638649
Arguably they have the deepest connection to each other a Sith can know. Vader, to Maul, is who he should have been: the right hand of Sidious, the Agent of the Empire. A man of power and respect, control and conquest.

Vader is a living testament to how far Maul has fallen and a destiny that he feels is his by right but that he could never claim.

The only thing worse to a Sith than a rival? A replacement.
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>>88638642
Another big problem is that Maul is alive two years before ANH. For this to be settled in a movie with Ewan, you'd either have to put old age makeup on him for the entire movie (which would not only be cumbersome for him, but still wouldn't make him look much like Alec) or give him a CGI Alec mask, at which point what's the point of even having Ewan? He works better as Obi-Wan the farther he is from ANH, because if you put it within a year or two of ANH the differences between Ewan and Alec become much more obvious and it becomes harder for them to really sell them as the same guy.
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>>88638658
Can we all agree that Maul's prime was when he fought Quigon and Obi and he's only progressively gotten weaker since then?
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>>88638638

prequel material is probably safe as long as they leave Jar Jar out of it.
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>>88638700
Hard to say. Savage mentions how powerful he'd become in TCWs, but then Savage didn't know him of old.
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>>88638658

Well that defeat at Obi-Wan's had really did a fucking number on him. Clone Wars Maul is in no way the same Maul that he was when he was a Sith Lord. It's also quite clear he never completely recovered from the psychotic break either.

And being that he's a user of the dark side of the force, self-doubt is going to be crippling for his power level. He's honestly become one of f not my favorite Star Wars characters and replaced Dooku as my favorite Sith Lord simply because of what Clone Wars did with him.
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Did SS ever share Ezra with the other Inquisitors?
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>>88638538
Yea this is basically what I want to know. Are they to the Jedi like the Orthodox Church is to the Catholic or are they like Catholic fanboy's who just could never prove themselves quite Catholic enough to actually join but still hang around the Church talking about how cool the Priests are and "protecting" their stuff.

It seems to be the latter like you say, they're not a third group to the Jedi/Sith they're just Jedi rejects turned "security" guards though I can't imagine why an organization of people with literal superpowers would really need protection from people who were almost certainly all weaker than them, with most members likely having lesser force capabilities than a Jedi or no force capabilities at all.

Do you think they just wanted to give these people the rejected from the order something to do?

>uhhhh you can't be a Jedi but don't worry we have a very important job for you... yea very important. uhhh go guard this temple it's like super holy and only you can guard it ok? You're a guardian of the... whill... s.

Still I wonder what they're training entailed.
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>>88638713
Yeah I was considering that too. Savage would have only known Maul prior to his training with Sidious I think.

And really, Maul might have gotten stronger physically with the robo-legs technically, but his CONFIDENCE sure as fuck never recovered

now he's reduced to begging Ezra to be his friend
you might say he's half the man he used to be
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>>88638652

Ewan's my favorite actor in the series right next to Qui-Gon so I'm really hoping he gets his chance.
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Is the Vader comic over? It's still listed as an ongoing at some places
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>>88638744
It's over. It's going to be listed as ongoing because that's what it was when it was still going, as opposed to being a miniseries.
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>>88638734
I just think it says volumes about him that he came out of the filming of the prequels with nothing but nice things to say

in the making-of features for the prequels you see how excited he is just to get to pick his lightsaber
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>>88638730
At least we're getting material on Darth Maul pre-TPM. We get to see how he was trained and for what true purpose.
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>>88638658
>most powerful
>implying Sheev didn't train him wrong
>as a joke
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>>88638757

I have nothing but respect for him because more than anything he put his all into those movies. He was the only one to make it look like maybe Lucas' script could be palatable.
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>>88638766
I know the rules
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>>88638686
Well, even if you turned Ewan into CGI Alec you'd still have someone with experience in that specific role playing the part, the only real off thing about it would be the voice, and I don't think most people would care. Although I don't really think that shit works too well for anything more than a bit part like with Tarkin and Leia in RO, the whole uncanny valley thing is too much
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>>88638590
I really don't like him dying from either of them. They're fundamentally punk ass bitches and they need to stay that way or it fucks up Luke's story.

That's too great a feat for them.
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>>88638780
Yeah. Best not to overdo it, but then the alternative is the makeup, which doesn't always look good and still wouldn't make him look like Alec. Plus it'd probably be a pain in the ass for him to do the entire movie like that.

I dunno, maybe if the unreleased TCW stuff doesn't do anything to Cad Bane, maybe he can be the villain in an Obi-Wan movie. Just go full space samurai western.
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>>88638766
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>>88638766
Considering he's canonically one of the most highly trained in the history of the Sith, if he's a joke that explains why the rest of them were running around lolmurdering each other until Bane and after Bane dicked around for over a thousand years before Sidious got their shit together.
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>>88638774
>He was the only one to make it look like maybe Lucas' script could be palatable

Unpopular opinion, but I think Hayden did a great job
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>>88638686
>>88638812

Ewan actually looks strikingly like Alec in a lot of ways. But I agree that I'm not sure how far old age makeup could go into making it believable.
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>>88638459
>It'd be idiotic if Old Ben decided he needed to go find and kill Maul
If he did it just for the sake of doing it yeah, but I could see him catching wind that Maul is coming for him and leaving Tatooine to confront him, just because he doesn't want to take any chances of Maul finding Luke and figuring out his importance.
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>>88638833

I actually agree with you completely. I don't like what Lucas did with the character but what Hayden did with what he got I thought was good. Everyone shits on this scene but I actually love how Hayden delivers all of this. One of my favorite scenes of his in the PT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfevBIsVG1o
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Hey I've got a villain for your Obi-wan movie

you think he never gets to Tatooine?
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>>88638812
>space samurai western
Yeah, I feel like this is what it'd be regardless of if it were Bane, Maul or anyone else. Just needs to be some kind of threat that makes him realize the galaxy actually needs Jedi again and decide to try and train Luke like he offers to in ANH, rather than just keep watching over him like he had been.
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>>88638829
>one of the most highly trained
>focusing on physical and tactical abilities
>believing that his own time for strategic wisdom and eventual domination will come
>believing his own time will come
>his time

there's that classic Sheev humor again
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>>88638858
This guy beat you to it >>88638812
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>>88638780

was Leia even CG? I thought they just had somebody who looked as much like 70s Carrie Fisher as possible with the same hair and makeup as Leia had in A New Hope, and just dubbed in the fragment of dialogue.
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>>88638856
I agree. I think his delivery in many scenes like that one is very good.
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>>88638870
The funniest part is that even if Obi-Wan hadn't cut him in half, Maul was doomed anyway because once Anakin came along, Sheev started plotting. Sooner or later it'd be Maul in this picture.
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>>88638856
My nigga
That's his best scene, I've always thought so

He's a complete wreck of a human being and that's exactly how it should be. I understand a lot of people had this mental image of Vader as somewhat older, wiser, more experienced and being seduced to the dark side for different reasons but I think having him be a fucking trainwreck will prove, over time, to be the better story

I also like that Anakin at least recognizes he's fucked up. He knows he shouldn't be acting or thinking like he is.
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>>88638873
I don't recall ever seeing anyone actually involved in the movie outright stating she was CG, but every article about it seems to say so. Plus, it really did look exactly like her from ANH, I don't think it could just be a lookalike.
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>>88638873
They CGId over her face
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>>88638896
>Paul Saltines karate killings
They knew exactly what they were doing
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>>88638907
No doubt, but it gets a chuckle out of me every time
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>>88638893
And I love how Sheev even wants to move on from Vader after he's got him.

Sheev the apprentice killer. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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>>88638899
It actually looks pretty good at first but there are some very unnatural facial movements in the last few frames. Her eyes get bigger in a very weird way.
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>>88638899

I obviously noticed and there's clearly some uncanny valley but I think the reaction to Tarkin and Leia is way overblown. I was thoroughly impressed with how far CGI has come.

I do think it might have been wiser to keep them turned around though. When we first see Tarkin's reflection I figured he'd just not turn around and talk entirely with his back turned. To their credit they did closeups on both Tarkin and Leia.
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>>88638893
Knowing Maul, he would have tried to ambush younger Anakin and got his shit pushed in even worse than what Obi did to him

See Anakin is smart, he would have cut his head off
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>>88638936
>might have been wiser to keep them turned around
>to their credit they did close ups on both of them!

I think Trakin looked great personally and Leia looked... less great but people are blowing it out of proportion. That said these statements don't really make sense together lol
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>>88638955

By to their credit I just mean even though the wise decision was to not draw attention to it they put their money where their mouth is and went all in and I'll give them props for that if nothing else.
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>>88638955
I'm going with my old man (who is 70) to see Rogue One on christmas. He knows nothing about the movie except that it's how they got the death star plans. Can't wait to see how he reacts to CGI Leia and Tarkin.
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It's Sidious or Palpatine, not that stupid name.
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>>88638972
I still feel like maybe Tarkin could have been CGI but just have him talk to Krennic via hologram

I didn't mind CGI Tarkin but I can see why some people did, it's not a short shot like Leia he has more screen time in Rogue One than he did in ANH
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>>88638991
Suffering Sheev, anon, what crawled up your Sheev sleeve and failed to obtain Ultimate Power?
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>>88638981
I went with someone who legit had no idea Tarkin was CGI til the very end.

He saw Leia and it gave it away lol, he knew she was CGI and then went oh that other guy probably was too.

He said his first thought was that they found a look alike for Tarkin or the guy just wasn't as old as he thought he was in the originals.
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>>88638991
I'M A PERSON AND MY NAME IS SHEEV
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>>88637283
Huh, I always figured the flat blade was easier to wield than the cylindrical ones.
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>>88639001
CGI Leia gives it away because she doesn't blink
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>>88637323
>not using the special snowflake mandalorian font instead of Arubesh.
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>>88639027
maybe sabine just sucks
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>>88638132
I hated anything with AT-ATs, impossible on the PC port.
>>88638165
>>88638231
I liked fest but could never get to one of the secrets.
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>>88638898

>Plus, it really did look exactly like her from ANH, I don't think it could just be a lookalike.

contouring, nigga. it is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
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>>88632198
source?
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>>88639045
And she can't use a sword ether.
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>>88639092
HEYO
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>>88639085
You must have missed this earlier in the thread.
>>88635596
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>>88638068
Rishi
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>>88638955
>>88638992
>>88638994
Tarkin moved too much, Peter Cushing tended to act from understatement a lot more.
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>>88639106
Tarkin moved a lot in ANH too
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>>88639104
Non SWTOR Belsavis is pretty comfy even if I know I'd hate it in real life.

>>88639115
Not really, I'll need another watch but he usually had smaller movements.
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https://moviepilot.com/p/princess-leia-actress-ingvild-deila/4173072

>However, Carrie Fisher's 1977 likeness wasn't brought (back) to life using CGI alone, and much of the scenes success can be put down to actress Ingvild Deila, who played Leia in Rogue One.

>While Deila initially acted in the scene, later in post-production the team from Light and Magic, Lucasfilm's in-house visual effects company, later used archival footage to alter Deila's looks and voice to more accurately match Fisher's. The use of a body double meant that Leia's movements and features looked life-like and convincing.

I like how they have to use a picture of Rogue One Leia from a camrip in articles about this.

hopefully the blu-ray will have extensive featurettes. I'm curious as to how Leia would have looked if they just had Ingvild in costume/hair/makeup with no digital touch-ups.
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>>88639106
One thing I did notice is that Tarkin seemed pretty tall- turns out Guy Henry is 6'4" while Cushing was 6'
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>>88639148
I think they should have left Leia out entirely, movie should have ended with Vader watching the Tantive IV fly away

Everybody recognizes that ship, they would have understood what was going on without Leia showing up
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>>88639185

yeah, probably. with the alert sirens going, I kinda thought they had already time-skipped ahead to the opening scene of ANH, and instead of running to the bridge, the crew were running to get ready to shoot stormtroopers.
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>>88637335
>>88637442
I wonder what her 'the __' will be. I'm guessing it'll be Mandalore the Free or the United or some shit.
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>>88639122
Isn't Belsavis a prison?
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>>88639248
Only in TOR, in the old Children of the Jedi novel Belsavis was a plantation and the rifts were narrower and were essentially the opposite ratio of ice and rock. Also by the time of the Empire they'd capped the rifts with light amplification/heat retention domes that helped the top layer of trees and vines.
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>>88639284
Oh neat
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>Twi'lek males range from "normal dude with lekku and a bumpy forehead" to "OH GOD KILL IT WITH FIRE" to "pretty creepy but normal Star Wars humanoid"
>Twi'lek females are always 10/10 would bone
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>>88639320
>>88639320
>>88639320
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>>88639308
Why are the middle guy's lekku so skinny? Also, you forgot the ultra fat senator.
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>>88639308
Forget Twi'leks.

Mirialan girls are the cutest.
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>>88636788
He considered the late Republic to still be the Empire. Though it could be a situation where we don't know the actual months when he started fighting and when the months are when he says that either. It could have been at the ass end of the year a month or two after the Empire was founded, and he just turned 26 a month or two ago in R1.

That is the problem with Star Wars in a way is that you only ever get years, not actual date beyond that.
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>>88639350
I will never stop finding it funny that the most muslim-looking character turned out to be the terrorist
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>>88639308
>>88639328
He was a prisoner of the empire, probably starved.
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>>88637442
>That
>Mandalore
This is just as fanfiction-tier as Boba being Mandalore, A angtsy teen artist or a bounty hunter being Mandalore is so incredibly dumb.
I remember when Mandalore was something important and not given to just whoever
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>>88639646
>I remember when Mandalore was something important and not given to just whoever
So literally never?
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>>88639646
Bow to your lightsaber wielding Mandolore peasant.

Wait a minute...

>lightsaber wielding Mandalore

Oh you mean Boba Fett, we meet again, except now you actually do stuff instead of standing around and dying to a blind man.
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