/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

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Can you hear the footsteps?

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>>88568193
Should Respawn make a Boba Fett game and just have it be Titanfall without the Titans?

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Instead of Snoke, they should have had Antje Traue (faora in man of steel) play the Emperor's daughter and she be the big bad behind the scenes of the new trilogy.

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>>88568266
Fuck yeah they should

>>88568267
I still think Snoke's hologram is just a wizard of oz type thing and the person behind it is Luke's ex-wife

What else could make a man retreat from the galaxy so hard

>>88568267
>emperor having a daughter
That's really stupid.
But I would happily welcome Antje to star wars.

>>88568293
>https://streamable.com/pl2be

Rogue One only confirms it. JEJ is too old to voice Vader. I suggest moving forward they use a blend of him and a good Vader voice actor. Perhaps Matt Sloan, the VA of Vader in the Force Unleashed games.

>>88568322
Well JEJ is like 85 years old so they're going to have to replace him real soon no matter what

>>88568322
Matt Sloan is fucking terrible.

So do we know what the name of the other new TIE model is? Da Wook' s page on the battle of Scarif gives me nothing

>>88567274
>undead troopers is actually canon though thanks to a fucking mobile game
Fuck you! The sickness was an awesome campaign. I still get deathtroopers donated that rekt bases too

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>>88568351
So what the fuck would you suggest you fucking canonlet piece of trash? I'm trying to put forth actual solutions and here you are bickering like a /tv/ migrant.

>>88568361
TIE/sk, or TIE Striker.

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>>88568284
>>88568266
>The average Titanfall Pilot would ravage the Star Wars universe.

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>>88568361
TIE Striker

They're meant specifically for in-atmosphere fighting and seem to have only been on Scarif as some kind of new prototype

>>88568322
The guy who voiced Vader in GB and EaW (not FoC cause they got Matt Sloan) did excellent. The voice actor for Solo in EaW was fantastic though. i thought it was ford for a moment

>>88568322
Did you play Battlefront? Matt Sloan's delivery is fucking horrible in that. His Vader voice sucks, was only amusing for a while in the early Chad Vader stuff.

Anyone got a screencap or list of all the reasons that TFA is less than satisfactory?

>>88568383
>>88568418
I mean the second variant of TIE Striker you braindead morons. Did you even see the movie? There was a TIE model that looked like a Striker but was more on the side of a bomber.

>>88568382
Scott Lawrence plays a decent Vader, unlike Sloan.

>>88568361
They're really dragging their feet especially with all the new lore the R1 Visual dictionary just gave us.

>>88568452
you mean the troop carrier.

>>88568322
JEJ doesn't sound bad in Rebels, they probably messed something in Rogue One, i won't be surprised if they re-record his lines

>>88568452
Shit I didn't see those at all, just strikers

>>88568383
>>88568418
there wasn't another one? didn't I see some kind of shuttle thing?
>>88568452
stop pretending to be me

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In terms of sexy can we agree on this?

> Jyn > 77-83 Leia > Rey > Padme

>>88568502
There are those new imperial shuttles with the 4 wings that fold up and down, no clue what those are called

>>88568515
Switch Rey and Padme

>>88568322
You want Scott Lawrence, who voiced Vader in stuff like Battlefront II, Empire at War, ROTS The Game, Rogue Squadron, Dark Forces, etc.

So if General Leia needed an army for her Resistance, why didn't she find some old Separatist droid factories and start them back up again?

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>>88568267
>the Emperor's daughter

>>88568520
Zeta-class.

>>88568588
It costs money to rebuild the factories to actually work, money to bring in raw materials to make droids, and money to run/maintain the droids.

Money is something the Resistance doesn't have, just like the Rebel Alliance.

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>Did you ever hear the tragedy of Saint Nicholas the Kind? I thought not. It's not a story the Humbugs would tell you. It's a Christmas legend.

>Saint Nicholas was a Kind Soul of Christmas so cheerful and so kind he could use Christmas Spirit to influence the presents to create... happiness. He had such a knowledge of the nice side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from the naughty list. The nice side of Christmas Spirit is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be too joyful.

>He became so very cheerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his cheerfulness, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his elves everything he knew, then his elves naughtied him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save others from the naughty list... but not himself.

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>>88568502
>>88568520
>>88568630

>>88568816
I liked how central the cargo holds of these things seemed to be to Scarif. Like how the AT-ATs had hollowed out mid sections to carry them around. At least that's what I thought their orange sections were.

>>88568656
even if she could, droids are only effective in bulk, and large armies need giant transports, spare parts, routine diagnostics, weapons, storage when not in use
droids also need centralized command, they are dumb on their own and need constant babysitting RTS style
in shot, droid armies are more ueful for symmetrical warfare, by a force with superior manufacturing
while specialized models like the magnaguard or tactical droid would be useful, they are expensive handmade models

>>88568860
they are, one of them has it opened up, revealing that they are completely hollow

also they are actuall AT-ACT

>>88568914
huh
yeah what the fuck is that?

>>88568502
>>88568452
I remember seeing that. It never did anything but get blown up so no clue what it was for.

>>88568954
Didn't it drop the Deathtroopers?

>>88569006
Yes. I think it did.

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>>88568954
>>88568914
I figured it was just a TIE version of a troop carrier.

>>88568745
>naughtied him in his sleep

Lewd.

>>88568914
Oohh yeah, that thing. No idea either.

>>88569029

this, I think this dropped off the Death Troopers that killed Chirrut and Baze

RIP Laser Moon Awakens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu9dUG3_KNA

>>88569189
aww dude weak

>only a sith deals in absolutes
was obi-wan a sith?

>>88569255
I think he meant moral absolutes, not literally all absolutes. But yeah, it's a clunky line.

>>88569255
I've always wanted to see a what-if story where Obi-wan actually listens to Dooku when he's captured in ep2

They have a long talk about Sheev, the senate, all of it. Obi-wan actually decides to join Dooku and it goes from there.

>>88569255
but what if it's true? how do you say that without sounding like a Sith

So, I picked up the Darth Vader trades, and really enjoyed them. What are some good Star Wars comics to try?

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>>88569280
>I wish I could just wish my feelings away

>>88569255
>>88569280
>>88569316
Obi-Wan isn't dealing in absolutes. He's saying an absolute fact. Like "Water is wet."

Anakin deals in absolutes by saying "You're either with me or against me."

>>88568267
>Emperor's daughter
Unfortunately the Dark Side has been canon confirmed as making you impotent that's why Sith are so angry all the time

>>88569324
Canon or EU or whatever?

>>88569324
I liked Lando, and the Kanan comic

>>88569324
Lando
Kanan
Obi-Wan & Anakin

>>88569348
what about non-sith absolutists?

>>88569304
Yeah they need more of those Star Wars What If Infinite series.

>>88569189
NOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YOUTUBE

Why doesn't Palpatine have yellow eyes?

>>88568914
That's just an Ugly proof that the Freemakers were present during the battle stealing, whoops, I mean salvaging anything not nailed down, including Jyn and Cassian.

>>88569355
Let's go with modern canon first (since old EU was apparently thrown out)

then I'll work my ways backwards.

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One thing I've been seeing all over the Internet since Rogue One's release is demand for a standalone Vader movie.

Would you want that?

>>88569392
What about them?

All Sith deal in absolutes, but not everyone who deals in absolutes is a Sith.

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>>88569396
>>88569189
I wonder if this means they'll stop working on the Empire dub and never do Jedi

fuck youtube that's horseshit

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>>88569353

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All wings report in.

>>88569436
he works better as an antagonist, it is part of his mystique

although one like ESB, where vader moves the plot forward might be good

>>88569353
This is a lie. The Dark Side doesn't make you impotent. It makes your dick bigger.

Why do you think Ezra craved SS' cock? Because it was Dark Side enhanced.

>>88569440
because only a sith deals in absolutes
so if you deal in absolutes you are a sith

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>>88569436
Where goes around killing the remnant Jedi? Absolutely

Maybe we'd finally get a canon end for Shaak-Ti

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Big guy one reporting in

>>88569459
Boneless standing by

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>>88569459
Dagger-2 standing by

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>>88569502
BEN?

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>>88569459
This is Flight 2-0-9'er, cleared for take off.

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>>88569459
Buttslut standing by.

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>>88569502
>that pic
come the fuck on

>>88569493
Is the deleted scene not canon?
>>88569502
Holy shit.

>>88569441
empire dub has been up for weeks.

I think Fox is really to blame, they have a stranglehold on the distribution rights to ep 4.

>>88569475
All this delusional. Ezra would never cheat on Zeb .

>>88568261

ugh, this game was so fucking awesome, but the ravages of time have made it all but unplayable now. Those controls =(

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>>88569459
Best boy standing by

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>>88569612
Oh sweet, that's much easier to take
Didn't realize empire was done, gonna watch it now so thanks

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>>88569554
Power Top standing by.

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>>88569459
Red 6 standing by

>>88569650
>TFW you cant hold it

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>>88568266
Fuck yes. I miss Bounty Hunter.

>>88568390

Nigger, an AT-AT would roflstomp your faggy titans

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>it was an actual tank, not a hovertank
Neat

>>88569671
bad comparison, since titans behave like big infantry, whereas walkers are superheavy vehicles

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>>88569459
Rogue One standing by.

>>88569695
Fortunately Walkers are easy to take out, since they're just really a poorly thought out idea.

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>>88569459
General Syndulla, standing by

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>>88569493
>>88569595
>Is the deleted scene not canon?
It is. Galactic Atlas confirmed that the Anakin one is her canon death

>>88569461
>he works better as an antagonist, it is part of his mystique
This. Let him appear in other spinoffs, but he doesn't really need to star in one himself.

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>>88569615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81nsGjv91b0

>>88569459
Red Four standing by

>>88569718
in theory
in practice, only the U-wings heavy blaster was capable of taking it out by shooting the legs, which it did through repeated hits to a single point at close range, doing no discernible damage until it scored enough crits

any non shipborne weapon was shown to be largely ineffective, even dedicated anti-vehicle weapons struck them repeatedly in the leg without damage

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>>88569459
Kylo Ren standing by

>>88569595
Deleted scenes are non-canon until said otherwise.

But for intents and purposes, yes, Pablo says Anakin killing her in the temple is likely what they're sticking too

>>88569436
If they make it in line with the good parts of Vader's comic it could work. But I don't think they'd be able to sell "Vader kills this Jedi" as a film unless it's like a slasher film.

>>88569792
It's what they've officially gone with now>>88569743

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>>88569459
Torrent Company standing by

Just came back from Rogue One

Better than I expected
Much better

I think it nailed the "Star Wars" feel better than TFA even though the tone was far less "adventurey"

My only complain was that Saw was used too weakly.
The battle on Scariff was some good shit right there though

>>88569436
>Would you want that?
I don't think so, no. I'd go for another movie with him as a main antagonist, like a Shadows of the Empire kind of deal.

>>88569792
>>88569743
Wait what? I missed that deleted scene. I was referring to the Grievous one.

>>88569811
Is that like Blackface?
Or like painting slanty eyes on your helmet if your commander is an Asian?

>stardust
GATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>88569783
Also a normal rocket to the neck blows them up.

And titans are much faster than them, it would basically end up being a lot like the Hoth battle.

Except Airspeeders don't fire and protext themselves with Thermite, or have giant goddamn lasers shooting out of them, or highly accurate firing suites for their weaponry.

What I'm saying is, is Scorch is best girl, and she would WRECK the Empire.

>>88569831
What?

>>88569650
>No Porkins cameo in Rogue One

come on, Disney. You literally had one job.

>>88569734
Perhaps one day we will learn more about this mysterious general named Syndulla.

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>>88569815
>The battle on Scariff was some good shit right there though
I know right

>>88569867
Jek Tono Porkins was busy single handedly delaying both Vader's star destroyer and Lasermoon from jumping into hyperspace to Scarif.

>>88569718
>>88569783
This is wrong. Not only are AT-ACT not for combat but their armor is not suited for it. Additionally, the U-Wing had heavy ion blasters focused on the joint leg causing it to melt. It was a reference to a Legends comic. Can't remember the name/

>>88569857
the neck looks hard to hit, it only seems to get hit when they stand still

>>88569858
They've painted her skin color onto their armor
It is a little like blackface

>>88569436
I could see it working as a pseudo-slasher film following a small group of surviving Jedi who are tracked down and cut down one by one

>>88569823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGDAvuOajCo

It's a scene that was never finished and never really got past earlier stages.

But it is a guideline for what Galactic Atlas says. Obviously it wouldn't be as silly.

>>88569867
Rebels anon

>>88569921
Not just her skin colour but like her skin patterns and shit

>>88569894
All of the space shit was 10/10
It was exhilarating
I loved how often he used the locked hull camera thing

>>88569934
>where was the Ghost at the end of Rogue One!?!
>they took on help from ace Rebel pilot Jek Tono Porkins!
>why?
>they used his weight to punch the Ghost through the shield around Scarif
>unfortunately they didn't have enough thrust to stay in the air for long
>Sabine spots Jyn and Cassian from her seat in the nose gun, calls out directions to rescue them
>the Ghost lands like a dead weight on the last two members of Rogue One
>blast wave wipes out everyone on the Ghost
>Rebels cancelled

>>88569615
Yeah right...keep dreaming Anon.

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>>88569459
ONLY MONEY standing by.

>>88570033
Republic credits?

>>88570048
Shekels only

>>88570033
Republic dataries?

>>88568936
uncensored?

so as there has always been a debate on "how to watch star wars" one of the most popular ones is called "flashback" where you go 4 > 5 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 6 > 7

So my question is, how would you incorporate Rogue one? I would put it at the beginning, here is why.

1. Title Scroll. All the other films has this, not this one. The title scroll gives an almost "Last Time on Star Wars" kind of feel, while this one is obviously stand alone and leads into episode 4, so putting it "last" or outside the "watch" doesn't really work if you want a real good narrative.

2. Luke is the New Hope - As others have said, the brings more emphasis on episode 4 and what it meant to get the plans and destroy the death star; but it also brings out the fact that the movie makes mention that "The Jedi are no more" a couple of times in the film, so when Luke learns he is a jedi, he is literally the galaxy's new hope.

3. Darth Vader - so in the orignal film, Darth only had about 12 minutes of screen time, and only a little bit of a shadow on everyone (it wasn't really until 5 where he came off as the threat) here, not only is Vader introduced as someone that is "known and not seen" we are also given only a bit of what he can do as well as well as we have seen what he can do to just mere soldiers, meaning once we see him again in episode 4, we know he is a threat cause we have seen what he can do.

So from one's perspective.

The Empire > "There is no Hope" > an extremely dangerous person appears > Suddenly a new hope > Someone that can stand against vader > holy shit, vader is luke's father > the origin of Vader and the Jedis > How the villains won > Episode 6

since it's only 2 hours, I would probably also add Gennedy's clone wars.

>>88569823
>>88569928
Not to mention the Anakin death was used in the novelization of ROTS and Lego Star Wars back in the days of Legends.

>>88570033
You know, I get that the Jar-Jar shit may have been unintentional.

But that?

Really, George?

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>>88570067
>Gennedy's clone wars
Not canon

>>88570067
Isn't that just Machete order with 1 and 7 thrown in?

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>>88570017
>Yeah right...keep dreaming Anon.
I'm so sorry that your ship remains godawful fanfic tier while ZEzra remains 100% Certified Fresh canon.

>>88570104
I thought Mechete order was just Flashback order, just with 1 cut out.

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>>88569714

>>88570067
Release order is the best way

The movies released the same decade "feel" much more similar and so flow better.

That way you don't go from CGI Tarkin to real Tarkin and then back to crap CGI

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>>88570006
>they used his weight to punch the Ghost through the shield around Scarif

>>88570106
I've never understood why Zeb's eyes look like a pair of round olives. I mean yeah yeah, McQuarrie concept art, but I'm pretty sure he didn't mean them to look like that.

>>88570066
http://imgur.com/a/n6Dna

>>88570067
Watch whatever order you want.

>>88570067
I'd just get rid of that shitty order and recommend Chronological.

It's simple and easy to understand.

I, II, III, RO, IV, V, VI, VII

No need to overcomplicate things.

>>88570104
>>88570125
It technically would be the Ernst-Rister Order with 7 thrown in.

Has it been confirmed that it was a Lasat we saw in Saw's camp?
Or just another ugly as fuck no-nose alien

>>88570067

There's kind of no point in watching Rogue One first when half of it is just fanservice for existing fans.

It's cool how well it leads into episode 4, but it doesn't work for a first timer.

4 > 5 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 6 > 7 is good though because it preserves all the plot twists.

>>88570152
Thank you

>>88570106
At best Ezra granted Zeb a pity fuck. He belongs to Kallus and SS.

>>88568261
Always. Same with that weird noise

>>88570160
but for a new person that doesn't know star wars wouldn't get the "I am your father twist" which the whole point of these "orders."

>>88570161
I don't remember seeing a Lasat at all

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>>88570179
You're welcome.

>>88570160

That's completely retarded, no one is going to sit through 4 bad to mediocre movies to get to the good ones, only to then be let down by the visuals not being up to the standard they'd seen until then.

Not to mention all mystique around the original trilogy would be ruined.

You don't tell someone to watch 1-3 until they've at LEAST watched 4 and 5, end of story.

>>88568515
Um, no. You have to do it by movies.

>Leia RotJ > padme AotC > padme RotS (bite me; sexy padme is hot as fuck in that movie> Jyn RO > Rey TFA > Leia EBS > padme TpM > Leia ANH

>K-2 is the sheldon cooper of droids.

>>88570232
This is a really bad meme.

>>88570217
When they first show up at Saw's hideout and the camera looks around at various reactions, one of them we see is of a hair alien with slit nostrils

Hairy + slit nose = Proto-Chewie = Lasat

>>88570204
It's flawed reasoning because not only are there very few people who genuinely don't know Vader is Luke's father (even people who have never watched a Star Wars movie know this purely because of how it's become part of pop culture), but it also means that you leave the audience hanging after 5 to watch 3 (or 2 with machete) movies before picking up the storyline again.

>>88570229
Meant to type *pregnant padme* for RotS

And yes, my "p" key is broken, so I must copy paste lowercase p for any p's

>>88570193
BS. Ezra and Zeb have been canon sleeping together since season 1. That's not even a joke, you can actually see it in the show.

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WHEN ARE THEY GONNA GET TO THE EDGERA FACTORY

>>88568942
troop transport apparently

Was striker pretty much the ONLY name not taken for a TIE already?

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>>88569669
GET OVER IT

>>88570204
It is not essential to enjoying the franchise. And basically everyone knows that twist now even if they've never seen the films. Preserving it is basically useless.

I never experienced it and I'm a humongous fan of Star Wars.

>>88570221
>No one is going to sit through 4 bad to mediocre movies to get to the good ones, only to then be let down by the visuals not being up to the standard they'd seen until then.
Get your opinion on the films out of this. The PT is no worse than the OT.

I first saw the films 1-6 and I love Star Wars.

>>88570248
I think I know which one you're talking about and he only vaguely looked Lasat-like to me.

>>88570229

>Leia
>Not hottest in ANH

>>88569436
Kieron Gillen's Darth Vader series for Marvel is like a great TV drama. It also has a beginning, middle and end. No Mustafar castle, tho, sadly.

>>88570243
it isn't exactly wrong. Sheldon is a few steps away from being a borderline serial killer.

>>88570303

>I first saw the films 1-6

And look what kind of fan that made you. Get out of here.

>>88570263
Pity fuck. No more, no less.

What is even worse is now that SS is gone Ezra has seduced Kallus. But Zeb loves Kallus and thus the galaxys weirdest love triangle was born.

>>88570300
FUCK OFF JODO

>>88570335
>And look what kind of fan that made you.
A better one than you

>Get out of here.
No. I've been here for years, ain't about to leave now just because some assblasted anon wants me to.

>>88569815
I was very impressed by how the action outdid everything in Episode 7. 8's gonna have to step up its game.

>>88570335
Make me leave. Go on, I dare you. Bet you've never been in a fight in your life, you scrawny little shit.

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>>88570263
Sabine even immortalized their first time.

The joke is that they literally sleep together - in the same room. Ezra is canon power top, Zeb is a bottom bunk.

>>88569894
Rebel fleets coming out of hyperspace makes my dick hard.

After seeing rogue one, I'd be more than personally happy to have more of those films than the Han Solo origin

>>88570361
With Rian "Jurassic World" Johnson, I really doubt it

Gareth has his flaws but he also has the most semblance to "artistic talent" that the trio of new Star Wars directors have.

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>no sexy darth vader TIE X1 action

>>88570395
Rian Johnson directed Looper. You're thinking of the Ep. IX guy.

>>88570392
Does anyone want a Han Solo: Begins movie?

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>>88570339
MAKE ME FUCK BOY

I feel angsty as shit after watching Rogue One.

Anyone got any show where everyone dies?

>>RLM is really down on RO because of references
>>Double Toasted give Cory problems claiming it was all fanservice

I don't get it. Rogue One did have fan service, but The Force Awakens was redoing entire sequences. Why is everyone claiming this now even though Rogue One's references go by quickly and some of them needed to happen like Mon Mothma and Tarkin.

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>>88570295
I guess they could have called it a TIE Glider but that doesn't sound very intimidating

there are indeed a metric fuckton of TIE variants just waiting to be recanonized

TIE Defenders are already back in

You know, I can't really blame film theory for being wrong.

Isn't this the first disney film to kill off the entire main cast, it isn't like something we would expect the mouse to OKAY

Rogue One was great. As Edwards said, he took a risk and triend something different and it worked a charm. Also Filoni getting involved had a positive influence.

Rogue One was miles better than TFA and kept me on the edge of my seat from the first minute to the last. Great stuff.

I'd like to see Edwards direct another SW movie.

>>88570434
I don't want to spoil anything but this is not the first time Gareth has directed a movie where main characters die

>>88570434
IDEON

>>88570419
Not really. I think if you could time-travel and get 70's era Harrison Ford to star in it you might get people excited.

>>88570461
>kept me on the edge of my seat
how? you literally already know what happens.

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>>88570385
How about Rebel fleets trying to go into hyperspace and getting fucking splattered?

>>88570169
>just fanservice for existing fans
honestly,outside of Leia, it all fit nicely into the background. Even C3 and R2 didn't take away the scene, they just felt like random robots.

>>88570447
Honestly the only one that felt tacked-on and out of place was Evazan and Ponda Baba. All the other nods and references felt completely organic.

>>88570447
I think people were glamoured by TFA

Remember, these aren't Star Wars fanatics
They went from RotS to TFA, with no Star Wars in between.

They went from "FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE JEDI ARE EVIL" and total plot failure to something that actually functioned as a basic movie

TFA wasn't great, but it was lightyears ahead of RotS.

So now they're kinda tired of OT callbacks. Remember, they're not fanatics.
An OT callback is no longer a PT distancing measure, but just a lame reference.

>>88570495
Yes, but I felt like a kid again. It was like when I saw ANH for the first time.

TFA on the other hand felt like a complete and utter dissappointment. Such a borefest.

>>88570303
If you watch videos of kids seeing SW for the first time, it really is a big moment. Vader is bigger than anything in the saga, including his fathering Luke. My girlfriend who was a SW nonwatcher until last year knew about the "my father" thing, but didn't even know who he said it to (presumably she could have thought he might have been Han's father or some shit).

Besides, everyone should start with ANH. It's the best way into Star Wars.

>>88570502
>they just felt like random robots.
they really didn't, they held up the action to show them and pause for the audience to laugh.

no one did in my theater, thank God.

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>rebels put up a good fight, even wreaks 2 ISD, empire shits on them with the death star and darth vader GEM FUISING with grand moff tarkin

>>88570519
>TFA wasn't great, but it was lightyears ahead of RotS.
lmaooooooo

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>>88570519
>to something that actually functioned as a basic movie

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>>88570553
All thanks to the mighty Y-wing

>>88570526
I honestly enjoyed TFA more, but I just cannot get into Star Wars like the people in these theads seem to be able to. They're just silly movies to me.

>>88570511
>Evazan and Ponda Baba
I thought that was who those two were.

>>88570511
What's funny is that was the only cameo that actually made me laugh. and yeah, Vader was rad
>>88570519
It really bothers me. Rogue One is the better told story, and yet I see these reviewers shit all over the film. I thought the characters were fine too, but they act like they're the most sterile things ever. Like what the hell?

>>88570434
Zeta Gundam

>>88570548
But it's not essential to enjoying the franchise. I'm a massive fan and I never experienced it.

>everyone should start with ANH. It's the best way into Star Wars.
Everyone should start with TPM. It's the best way into Star Wars.

>>88570549
I guess I didn't really see that any different than K2

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>>88570576
Oops, wrong webm
Here now watch them not fuck it up

>>88570511
The Evazan guy just looked...off somehow. Too skinny/young

>>88570519
>>total plot failure
>implying TFA had a plot that wasn't just ANH

And to think Episode 8 was only 5 months away

>>88570564
But it's true.

TFA had a legible plot arc
It was basic and unoriginal but it was there

What the fuck was Revenge?
Characters acted totally wacky all over the place.
Why did Palpatine decide to get captured by his own lackey?
Why did Anakin go from "Don't kill him! It's not right!" to literally the next scene murdering children?
What the fuck was "She's lost the will to live..."?
The fuck type of dialogue is "From my point of view the Jedi are evil!"?

RotS was a terrible terrible movie.
Better than AotC, yes, but still bad
It managed to his some emotional highpoints that TFA did not

But TFA functioned as a, albeit boring, functional story.

my only question I have from the film, was why was Leia on the ship that went into battle.

>>88570511
Them and Artoo/Threepio felt a little forced (I think having them in the background on the Tantive IV would've felt more natural, though that would've been a bad moment for them to have any dialogue), but I'll still take moments like that over TFA's constant "HEY REMEMBER THIS FROM THAT MOVIE YOU LIKED? IT'S HERE AGAIN! JUST LIKE THAT MOVIE YOU LIKED!"

>>88570644
The Force.

>>88570628
It is? When?

>>88570496
man rebels getting btfo always get me hard for some reason

>>88570616
Functional does not mean original
It was a carbon copy, but it still worked. Like a machine works

It was a Hero of a Thousand Faces type story.
And they always work
Regardless of how unoriginal

>>88570519
TFA worked so well because Abrams is good at creating surface level pleasures and because of the performances. All four of the main kids in that movie are engaging and likeable (Kylo Ren being an actually worthy successor to Vader is a minor miracle) and Harrison Ford actually gave a shit.

But yeah, seeing those characters again in a new story just automatically made people feel that old frisson again.

>>88570644
Tantive IV was docked with Raddus' ship for repairs the whole time. Bail said he was going to get somebody he trusted with his life (Leia) to grab the plans, right?

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Aside from the bacta room, what else is in Vader's castle?

>>88570576
Is this fanmade? Why have I never seen this before?

>>88570576
>>88570610
Funny how they owe it all to Ezra (and Hondo!)

>>88568452
To be fair, you didn't elaborate

>>88570699
A room completely devoid of sand.

>It's a blind joke episode.

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>>88570699
One of those bouncy house castles for kids birthday parties obviously

>>88570702
Oh boy are you in for a TREAT. One single guy animated this whole fucking thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU

>>88570673
> All four of the main kids in that movie are engaging and likeable
More like bland beyond belief.
>Kylo Ren being an actually worthy successor to Vader
Hell. Fucking. No.

>>88570603
Anon, I get it, you like the prequels. I think they're unfairly treated as abominations when they're really just misguided. I like them, too. But please believe me when I tell you The phantom Menace is a tough watch for adults who don't already like or know SW. It's at times a very tough watch for the vast majority of SW fans.

>>88570593
I get what they said about how "sterile" the characters were

We know nothing about anyone
Who was Jyn? What did she value?
We literally know nothing about her aside that she gave up on the Rebellion years ago
The same with everyone else
We just know what they are, not who they are

I do somewhat agree that it could have benefited from some fleshing out. Maybe if they cut the Eadu scenes and just had Galen killed on Jedah, they could have fit some character development.

I can see how people would feel like the characters were hollow since the movie moved at a blistering pace

But I didn't mind, ultimately

>>88570735
I thought it was pottery that the front door of Vader's fortress looked like his face

>>88570763
They say that, but then they all love Boba Fett.

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Was it necessary?

>>88570763
>What did she value?
the biggest implication is loyalty.

>>88570300
>get Boba Fett movie
>at the end Boba takes off his helmet revealing Jodo Kast underneath it
How would you feel /swco/?

>>88570636
>TFA had a legible plot arc
Then why does the film suddenly change from being about finding Luke Skywalker to destroying Starkiller Base?

>What the fuck was Revenge?
A good film.

>Characters acted totally wacky all over the place.
No they didn't.

>Why did Palpatine decide to get captured by his own lackey?
To start leading Anakin towards the Dark Side and to get rid of Dooku

>Why did Anakin go from "Don't kill him! It's not right!" to literally the next scene murdering children?

"We must move quickly. The Jedi are relentless. If they are not all destroyed, it will be civil war without end. First, I want you to go to the Jedi Temple. We will catch them off balance. Do what must be done, Lord Vader. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy. Only then will you be strong enough with the Dark Side to save Padmé."

Do note that a major driving force for Anakin in this film is to find out how to save Padme.

>What the fuck was "She's lost the will to live..."?
Lucas probably pulled it from mythological tales where that happens often.

>The fuck type of dialogue is "From my point of view the Jedi are evil!"?
There's nothing wrong with that line. The OT has lines that are pretty stupid too.

>>88570673
>>88570755
I thought that Kylo Ren, while not being truly a new Vader, was the best character of TFA

He was the only one that felt emotions and had a true conflict about what to do next.

Maybe I was just influenced by the fucking amazing mask and voice

>>88570665
It's a year away. December 2017

>>88570665
It was supposed to come out May but they pushed it back to December

>>88570803
The best part of Kylo Ren is his burning hatred for Stannis.

>>88569436
Were already getting this in VR form.

>>88570784
Fans loved Boba Fett

Critics were always apathetic

>>88570761
>Anon, I get it, you like the prequels.
I like Star Wars. Not just the prequels, not just the OT. Star Wars.

>But please believe me when I tell you The phantom Menace is a tough watch for adults who don't already like or know SW. It's at times a very tough watch for the vast majority of SW fans.
Then why is the PT overall more popular than the OT?

>>88570799
I would be the only guy in the theather laughing.

>>88570799
>Jodo Kast
who?

>>88570755
How is he not an interesting take on a Vader followup?

>>88568240
If you watch Rogue One and A New Hope back to back, it's like Darth Vader's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day.

>>88570699
Vending machines

>>88570648
>Artoo/Threepio felt a little forced
Yeah, but I guess that they had to be in the movie to keep up their perfect attendance record.

>>88570699
Artifacts from his past life? It's obviously not an Imperial facility since he's got some kind of worshipper answering his door rather than a uniformed officer.

>>88570888
how will they shove them into Han Solo's movie?

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>>88569459
*gonks musically*

>>88570735
That short is incredible.

>>88570699
A collection of pod racers
A sexbot with Padme's face pasted on its

>>88570868
Because he's a terrible villain and another example of a shitty "powerful villain is an idiotic manchild no one in the right mind can take seriously" archetype, i.e. the laziest way possible to make your character evil and pretend to give him depth. He was a joke.

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>>88570898
He had two of these

Finally watched it today.
I liked it, better than TFA.

>>88570821
Makes sense, as Guardians 2 comes out then.

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>>88570930
Isn't it? As far as I know, it's the best depiction of a space battle from the Imperial viewpoint. Can't think of anything else that even comes close.

Rebels just getting hosed

>>88570787
Me and my friends thought it looked good in most of the shots. Most of the reviews I read made it sound like Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within

>>88570763
I agree that the characters weren't really fleshed out but saying that while praising Rey and Finn feels really hypcritical.

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>>88570943
>you may fire when ready

>>88570992
I wonder if Vader was well known in the Empire

Or whether he was just another "Moff" type that wasn't recognized

>>88570699
His most special of rooms where he keeps the remains of the Separatist Council, dutifully restored in glorious puppet form. He uses the Force to manipulate them and act out various dramatic productions. You haven't experienced puppet Shakespeare until you've experienced it in Vader's Poggle voice.

>>88570903
We all know it's going to end with a CGI Harrison Ford walking into the Mos Eisley cantina, maybe he bumps into them on the way in.

You know that level in Rogue Squadron where you have to get the imperial shuttle? The rainy planet in RO reminded me of it.

>>88571014
Rey and Finn get passes because they were likeable and their ambitions were plain

What did any of the characters of RO want?
Cassian was obvious, because he was a Rebel through and through, but Jyn, Baze, and Kirrut were pretty much thrown into the plot and they just rolled with it

Finn wanted freedom and Rey wanted to know her parents/get off of not-Tatooine

>>88570836
>Then why is the PT overall more popular than the OT?

You're just being childish now, Anon. What is your evidence for this? Because I'd point to the fact that TFA, featuring the OT cast, outgrossed any of the prequels despite the fact that Menace was coming on the heels of a much longer hiatus.

>>88571021
Why is no one recording Tarkin's exchanges with Krennic

I really liked the contentious dynamic of those two and how Krennic at that point is at his wit's end trying to keep the Death Star

>>88571051
>CGI Harrison Ford
Nah, they cast some fuck puppet as Han already

>>88570966
Good point. I always thought of those guys as being in a rarefied class due to their proximity to the Emperor, but the Sith Lords novel made them seem kind of basic. Elite, but just soldiers, rather than the more frightening and mysterious creatures I imagined.

>>88571056
In Rogue Squadron II, you mean? The Imperial Academy Heist on Prefsbelt IV?

Fuck that mission

>>88569692
I prefer the clone wars era hover tank. Too many years of Battlefront.

Did "The Star Wars" DH mini series make it into a torrent or mega? Having trouble finding itt on my phone.

>>88570961
How is he an idiotic manchild? He loses his temper, but he's competent and commands respect. Vader is kind of bitchy in ANH and a total whiny cunt in the prequels (which I like, btw).

>>88570951
Now all I'm imagining is Vader starting an underground podracing circuit on Geonosis, where criminals and rebels are forced to race against him. If they can beat him and his decked out podracer in a race they will go free. Think the Circus Maximus but with lasers and jet engines.

>>88571134
Really? My friend and I love that mission when you play as a Y-Wing. Because you just keep bombing and destroying the base. Especially with the spread bombs. It's like the only mission where you can completely obliterate an Imperial base.

>>88571076
>You're just being childish now, Anon.
Facts are not childish.

>What is your evidence for this?
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/708775067992207360

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/708777308262301696

China also didn't really care for the OT when it was released for the first time over there prior to TFA coming out.

Daily reminder that Ezra is a buttslut

>>88571161
>unverifiable claims by someone who benefits from his comments being seen as true

>>88571190
Oh, it's you. Last reply you're getting from me.

>>88570699
About 60 dead Inkies.

>>88571093
For young Han. Isn't that movie going to be set like ten years before ANH?

>>88571161
Don't be a fucking autist

It's literally Pablo's job to shill Star Wars.
Literally his job
Do you think a Coke employee will say that people prefer Pepsi?
Fuck no

And that "different per demo" qualifier?
Yah, the demos who like the PT are fucking 12 and under.

Adults do not like the PT
I can't believe that you can argue that
Go ask any of your friends
Go on.
That should be at least a 100 or so replies
That's a fair sample size
How many liked them?
How many even care?

>>88570699
dildo attachments for his suit of various sizes that Sheev bought him as gag gifts

>>88571243
I liked them.

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>>88569459
Bob Ross standing by to show you The Joy Of Painting.

>>88571062
>Rey and Finn get passes because they were likeable
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>88571062
Jyn wanted to find and save her father after knowing he was indeed alive and attempting to aid the Rebellion against the Empire even as he worked within it. After his death, she took it upon herself to carry on his will and aid in bringing down the Death Star.

Chirrut and Baze lost their lot in life as Guardians of the Whills when their temple was destroyed by the Empire. Rather than waste the rest of their lives protecting a pile of rubble, or living as beggars, they decided to strike back against the Empire by becoming part of a larger cause.

You don't always need intricate aspirations to do something. These were all relatively simple people who didn't really have much going for them before they were thrown into what would be their last, greatest adventure. Sometimes you do something because it needs doing.

>>88571266
That's nothing to be ashamed of
For fuck's sake, you're posting in a Star Wars general thread on a comic board on a Laotian silk tapestry website

The average person, not so much

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>>88569459
Sheevarino standing by

>>88570336
>Pity fuck. No more, no less.
Well he only did that for SS because she never did get to be a mother thanks to Ahsoka, and then she failed to capture anyone, ever, and was a genuine all around fuckup at everything she tried. Oh, and he felt really bad about Maul murdering her. When he was done with what was left he cooked Zeb a very nice meal with it, then they went out dancing.

>>88571243
>Don't be a fucking autist
I'm not the one acting like an autist.

>It's literally Pablo's job to shill Star Wars.
>Literally his job
Literally not.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablo-hidalgo-1879745

>Creative Executive
>Lucasfilm
>April 2013 – Present (3 years 9 months)San Francisco Bay Area
>As part of the Lucasfilm Story Group, working in development for film, television, live action, animation, theme parks, videogames, print and transmedia projects based on Lucasfilm properties. Subject matter expert on Lucasfilm IP.

>Do you think a Coke employee will say that people prefer Pepsi?
Not comparable. Coke does not manufacture Pepsi.

Lucasfilm is responsible for both the OT and PT.

>Yah, the demos who like the PT are fucking 12 and under.
Source?

>Adults do not like the PT
I'm 36 and I like the PT.

>Go ask any of your friends
I have before. Or, rather, they've said which films they like better or I can guess based on what they've said.

>How many liked them?
Over half

>How many even care?
~half

Many are just casuals. They like the films and see the new ones and don't really care about which are better. They just enjoy them.

>>88571304
It's just good storytelling to have characters have desires before the Call to Adventure happens

Rogue One didn't really establish that
Jyn was in jail and then freed by Cassian as her introduction.
Chirrut and Baze were just there until they were saving the heroes.

I'm not saying I don't like Rogue One.
I did.

But it's still good story telling to introduce characters, have them putter around a bit, then have the plot swoop them up

Rogue One was very fast paced
And I can see how critics can see that has having hollow robots as characters.
They are not totally wrong as the strongest desire for all the characters seems to be "Follow the plot"

>>88571161
That's hardly scientific. Hidalgo is a good dude, but he's hardly a disinterested party. He followed up those comments by saying

>But between the last trilogy and six seasons of Clone Wars, the past 15 years has been in that era. So that's a factor.

Maybe China prefers the prequels. They also have a vastly different cultural landscape. Are you going to cite that the OT was never released until the 90's in the Soviet Union? I'm talking about the popularity of these movies in English-speaking countries, particularly America. You're grasping at straws.

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>>88571363

>>88571157
I tended to have trouble getting by the sensors unnoticed because one or two of them would be tucked away in an obscure corner and fuck with my progress. The Y-Wing was fun to use but its sluggish nature made evading the massive TIE swarms that would ensue a migraine. Which was made even worse once you switched to the Lambda shuttle because then you were an even slower, lumbering target that even the fucking turrets (in the event you missed any) could hit.

Still, great game. Battle of Endor was GOAT.

>>88571150
>but he's competent
You have very weird understanding of "competent".
>commands respect
He's a joke even in-universe. In reality he's even more of a pathetic piece of shit that no one in the right mind would ever find menacing or intimidating.

>>88571127
I get what you mean, when I first saw them I thought they weren't even human.

>>88571379
>That's hardly scientific.
It's based on internal Lucasfilm Ltd. data.

> Hidalgo is a good dude, but he's hardly a disinterested party.
He's still a reliable source of information.

>I'm talking about the popularity of these movies in English-speaking countries, particularly America. You're grasping at straws.
You are grasping at straws. Even excluding international viewers, the PT is still 50/50.

>>88571406
Ahh, the classic ad hominem.

>>88571304
If anything, Jyn's motivations were too spelled out and pedantic. Sometimes it's enough to just have good people deciding to fight evil. I do think audiences need to see some of that taking place, though. I wish we had had establishing scenes of these guys before they get drawn into the main action. Think the opening of Sorcerer where we see the truck driving guys doing shit around the world

>>88571150
I'm not really sure Kylo Ren commands respect, at least not due to anything about himself. His respect appears derived from Snoke's indulgences of the boy. Hux certainly gives him nothing, the Stormtroopers heading towards the detention hall didn't appear to, and officers show fear because Ren is one spergout away from committing murder and it isn't like Papa Snoke is going to care if Drone #3017 is killed.

>>88571374
> Jyn was in jail and then freed by Cassian as her introduction

To be fair, her introduction was more in the flashback sequence at the beginning of the movie. All her reason to live and act as she did was in there, including Saw, who we would later know left Jyn to fend for herself out of fear for her safety had one of his men gotten any ideas.

>>88571444
It's not ad hominem when you literally exhibit the signs of autism

Go on YouTube and search "Star Wars Prequels"

Every single video is about how the Star Wars Prequels are perceived to be shit

Future spoilers
Ezra took Kylo Ren under his wing years ago
Kylo has taken the title of buttslut

>>88571374
We needed establishing scenes for those characters, not just for Jyn and Cassian.

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>>88568418
And the KotOR design stealing continues

>>88571411
Speaking of Endor, FUCK the frigate RedemptionWE ARE UNDER ATTACK

>>88571523
In my personal opinion, Rogue One faltered the most on how it treated Saw

Saw had the potential to be a truly great character
I think an earlier version of the film had him in a greater role

He was the Rebel Darth Vader
That is what Edwards seemingly wanted in the beginning.
Saw was the warping of a person who followed a belief too far

The Jyn/Saw relationship should have been the core of the movie

I liked Rogue One a lot
But I think it could have been better that way

>>88571435
Right? Like the creepy dead eye old dudes that hang around the Emperor in their goofy clown hats and Victorian clothes and shit make it seem like proximity to him changes you physically.

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>>88571524
>It's not ad hominem when
"It's not ad hominem because I say it isn't

> you literally exhibit the signs of autism
another ad hominem

>Go on YouTube and search "Star Wars Prequels"
>Every single video is about how the Star Wars Prequels are perceived to be shit
Nope.

First 4 Videos:

>>88571566
Yeah, I feel they wasted Forest some, though he can definitely play a grizzled, ailing and unhinged old man. If a little on the hammy side, which admittedly was enjoyable

>>88571544
How long do you think until the Ebon Hawk is recanonized as a YT series?

>>88571650
>>88571566
I honestly thought Saw was in there just enough and used perfectly

>>88570784
They thought he was bad-ass. They never pretended there was any depth to his on-screen character.

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>>88571656
It was, in Uprising. Though not as a YT I don't think

>>88571030
And the horrible part is, Nute Gunray is *still alive*.

>>88571656
They'll probably find a crashed one on Rebels on the next ancient Sith related planet they inevitably go to.


>>88571698
Uprising can't really be considered canon because you can't download or play it anymore. It might as well not even have existed to begin with.

>>88571743
And -still- the Viceroy of the Trade Federation

You know, this is the only place on the internet(that I know of) where people praise the prequels. Which one of you is Saganfan?

>>88571766
All the more reason it should havecbeen a console game with a finished story. This mobile initiative just hasn't worked out save for Galaxy of Heroes.

>>88571444
Anon, he said it's "about 50/50." What does that even mean? How is the date being accrued? Merchandise sales? polls?

I notice you ignore that I posted his quote noting that from 1999 till 2015 you really only had prequel merch, shows and movies coming out and also never addressed my point that TFA is the top grossing SW movie ever, as well as the 3rd highest grossing movie of all-time. It made over twice as much as Menace.

Also, and this actually pissed me off because of how intellectually dishonest it was (or maybe you didn't even take two seconds to do a Google search), but how am I the one grasping at fucking straws when China did not even screen the original Star Wars until fucking 2015.

>http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/star-wars-china-premiere

Amazing how movies that Chinese people have actually seen is more popular than ones they haven't. Get the fuck out of here.

>>88571153
And he uses something the looks exactly like Sebulba's pod racer. Cue Vader realizing at the end of one hard-fought race that he's become *that guy*.

>>88571650
>I feel they wasted Forest some
At least we're getting him back in Rebels.

>>88571799
Why does the idea that not everyone hates the prequels make you so mad?