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Marvel vs. Capcom 4 Discussion Thread #9 - No More Mutants Edition

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>Several news outlets reporting this game is confirmed by reliable sources.
>Will supposedly be revealed at Playstation Experience, likely after the SFV tournament.
>Big possibility of X-Men and Fantastic Four characters not returning, with a heavy focus on characters featured in the MCU.
>As always, please consider this all still in rumor territory, but the likelihood has been increasing over the past several weeks.

Previous thread>>> >>88014144

Yes, this it the ninth thread, I counted. We just stopped numbering them after the fifth one, but fuck that, I'm numbering them again.
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First for story mode will be shit.
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u ready for MCU vs Capcom
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And for a good topic of discussion: What are your thoughts on the supposed gameplay change of 2 vs 2 with an assist character (could be a regular character or an actual assist only character) from 3v3 with 2 assists/partners?

This isn't confirmed of course, but the "sources" are being strangely quiet about this so I do feel that it might be real.
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>>88038763

Good change I think. Negates the need to have some dumb comeback mechanic to allow third character solo comebacks.
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>>88038518
Doom and Skrull are all we need from Fantastic Four. Seriously, Doom is so much cooler, smarter, and all around objectively superior to any of those four assholes.
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>>88038763
I fucking hate tag fighters and would have it be 1v1 if it were up to me, but that's personal opinion and as a whole the change would probably be for the worse.
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Y'know what would be amazing to see, but won't happen?

Ultron to double as Scientific Adventurer Hank Pym, who pulls out gadgets and other Pym shenanigans, while Ultron functions like a stand in the JoJo games with his own health meter.

And if we get Ant-Man, for there to be a Hank Pym skin, in the classic costume. If they, in a blue moon occasion, go with Hank Pym instead of Scott Lang, then having him go from Sentinel to Normal to Mega Man size could be really neat.
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>>88038929
It downgrades the entire gameplay by a huge factor. It removes team composition and synergies, gets rid of that risk with doing bad assist calls, completely changes the way the game is balanced, removes options and just overall depth in almost every way. It will just lose that unique dynamic and fluidity that comes from team building and finding ways that each character complement each other.
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UMvC3 port + MvC 4 announcement at PSX then MvC 4 gameplay at Capcom Cup.

Bookmark me.
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>>88038941
I agree
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>>88039119

MvC2 and 3 were both poorly made unbalanced piles of garbage, that kind of team composition and synergy deserves to be tossed in the trash

They were both steps back from XvSF, MSHvSF and MvC1
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>>88038763
I prefer 3v3.
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>>88039310
>MvC1
Yeah, where everyone ran Colossus assist is better than the game that ran for 10+ years despite being quite frankly broken and busted game.

3v3 is what kept MvC2 going and keeps 3 alive. No other fighter has that much openness in terms of options. Not to mention the uniqueness of it's tag/assist concept that no other fighters (aside form SG) has managed to replicate as well. You have tag games like Tekken Tag Tournament (and DoA5), you have team games like KOF, assists like most licensed anime games of recent times, but nothing that has all 3 at the same time.
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>>88039119
It simplifies it but doesn't completely remove it, it's still a tag team fighter and you'd have your assist exclusive characters. You've never played MvC1?

>>88038763
I have preferred 2/2 tag team fighting for the sake of giving each individual character more depth instead of making them simpler for the sake of occupying a portion of your larger strategy. I never liked that they removed the strong attack button and HATED that each character shared the same dedicated launch button (X/A) in MvC3
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>>88038518
No Muties
No Buy
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>>88038518
>No Mutants
>No Fantastic Four
>No Wolvie
>No Sentinel
>No Magneto
>No Storm
>No Doom
>Already Megaman is out of the picture
>So is BB Hood, Amingo, and Hayato

Why even play anymore? Pretty soon it's just gonna be Avengers VS Street Fighter
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Just give us options of either 1v1 2v2 or 3v3 like Skullgirls
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>>88038763
Picking 3 but choosing the order before every match (leader, second character, assist) would be cool
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>>88039521
>You've never played MvC1?
i remember running colossus/juggernaut/usagent and not give a fuck about anyone else. there was no real punishment for making a bad call aside from one less use. not at all like in 2 or 3 where you activelly have to think when and where to use your assist and not get punished.

and simplifying the controls to LMHS made sense in a fighter like marvel. you have a big cast, lots of moves to learn, and shit can get lost in the shuffle. S being the standard launcher for everyone, as well as also having misc movement and attacks, was smart. make the controls easier to start playing your character faster, to get to building your team quicker. and you still had plenty of unique mechanics for characters, like strange's nodes, she-hulk running stance/cancel, MODOK's levels, dormammu's POWER OF THE-POWER OF THE, and so on.
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Stop making threads when there is little to no info to go off of, especially when the event is this weekend.
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>>88039310
>MSHvSF
hahahahaha
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>>88038763
I always preferred the 2v2 system from XvSF, MSHvSF, MvC1, and TvC over the 3v3 of MvC2 and MvC3, personally, so I'd be ecstatic... but I also realize that so many people that are into "MAHVEL" got into it because of MvC2, so I can understand there being a lot of people unhappy if that was changed.
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>>88039481

Ah yes, the famous openness of MVC2/3, where you pick one of three viable teams or get romped
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>>88039801
What's so funny? You chose to laugh at the one versus game that's arguably the most balanced one. Do people just prefer it when everything's broken?
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>>88040157
> arguably the most balanced

feel free to provide proof for this claim whenevrr you feel like it.
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>>88039577
>Already Megaman is out of the picture

Good
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>>88040082
FChamp still runs a Phoenix team, KBR gets far with Haggar/Hulk/Sentinel, JWong's main team is still Wolverine/Storm/Akuma (and he ran Iron Fist for a long ass time), ChrisG is the only one that makes MorriDoom an actual threat. Cap is somehow getting some decent popularity on mid tier team players.

The only real cancers to MvC3 teams are Zero, Vergil and Doom and mainly because each one is super auto-pilot/godly at what they do.
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>>88040157
The most famous of the games is the unambiguously worst made and most broken one, purely because niggers love hollering at it

It's the WWE wrestling of games, and has fans of the same level of class
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Assuming this is even legit, once their first reveal is Wolverine, I'm going to laugh my ass off at you people.
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>>88040244
I'm not quite sure what kind of proof you'd want, since that kind of thing is personal opinion anyway, but I stand by it. Comparing it to XvSF, and the 3 MvC games, it certainly seems not as broken. Maybe you'd prefer I call it "least broken" rather than "most balanced"?
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>>88040453
>Maybe you'd prefer I call it "least broken" rather than "most balanced"?
that'd still be marvel 3 on average.
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>>88038518
>Big possibility of X-Men and Fantastic Four characters not returning, with a heavy focus on characters featured in the MCU.
100% rumor. Please stop perpetuating this shit
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>>88040439
I'll be too busy celebrating to care. It's something I WANT to be wrong about.
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>everyone's getting hype for MvC4
>I just want Nintendo vs. Capcom to be announced already
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Marvel VS Capcom 3 had comics?
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>>88041313
One, for the special edition or something. It was shit. I want an actual series.
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>>88041266
If that's the case you're on the wrong board senpai.
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How would you feel if they went with a totally different art style?
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>>88041402
That's a good point.
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>>88041762
What if Marvel Charaacters was comic book style and Capcom was manga style
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>>88042024
But Capcom isn't a manga style for most their things. Megaman tries to mimic western cartoons, Bengus was influenced by american comics so Street Fighter has closer to comic book designs, Resident Evil and Devil May Cry have realistic styles.
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>>88042491
>Devil May Cry have realistic styles.
That's pushing it. DMC is one of those video game franchises, whose visuals are very obviously influenced by anime but are also pretty grounded. Like Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, or Resident Evil to a degree.

Mega Man is also anime as fuck, so you're wrong about that as well.

Not that it wasn't kind of a dumb idea to begin with.
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>>88042564
Only nu-Final Fantasy is anime. Older ones were based in typical Medieval Fantasy.
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I dunno who the fuck this is, but: https://twitter.com/iantothemax/status/803418522843893760
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I want Squirrel Girl

Not only do we know she's gonna be attractive, but Henderson will bitch and moan that they "didn't stay true to her comic" and that will be a delight to see.
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>>88041313
It was shit and made no sense.

You could read it in UMVC3 before you reach the menu.
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>>88038518

No Mutants, no sale. Even lego does mutants.

No, MORE MUTANTS!
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>>88040292
They're learnt their lesson, don't you remember how many endings they shoved him into in UMVC3 as damage control?
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>>88044236
>Lego does mutants

Not anymore...
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>>88044391
Squirrel Girl was in the newest Lego Marvel game
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>>88044500
Squirrel Girl's not a mutant anymore.
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>>88044577
Then what the fuck is she?
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>>88044625

A deformed freak, in more than one way
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>>88044724
So she is a mutant in terms of having characteristics not from the parent, just not a Mutant in having an X-Gene altering development from a normal human.
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>>88042491
>Bengus was influenced by american comics so Street Fighter has closer to comic book designs
Bengus didn't design the characters or work on their in-game appearances. he did the equivalent of box art after the games were 95% finished. Same for Kinu, Ikeno, Edayan, etc. They were all part of the "Design Room," which despite the confusing name, was not about designing games, but about "graphic design" in the traditional sense, i.e., advertising material. The people who actually designed the characters, came up with their movesets, then actually animated their sprites were the so-called "charamen," the only one of which who ever really entered the spotlight was Akiman.
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>>88044724
I still hate this BS explanation. She's a fucking mutant, don't throw bullshit so you can keep her for your own game. You still have the right because no one wants to use her at Fox, just don't mention the mutant bit & get on with your lives. Jesus Fuck.
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>>88044724

Are all people in this comic suffering from cerebral palsy?
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>>88043876
>>Ant-Man
>>Groot
Oh god, are we getting all the Guardians? And Black Widow? Dear God, they can waste the entire Marvel roster on all the MCU characters!
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>>88045614
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So who do you think the final boss will be? My vote goes for Anita or The Beyonder
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>>88045588
Fox has little to do with it. Marvel can use her as a mutant if they want to.

It's just that someone, possibly Perlmutter, made a mandate that barred mutants and Fantastic Four characters from all media save for the comics. It's been in effect since 2015, but it looks like its slowly being faded.
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>>88044116
What the hell is that fucking monstrosity on the left?! Fucking hell, man, so that's what passes for good comic book art these days. I'd unironically rather have Rob Liefeld than that shit.
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>>88045717
Abraxas
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>>88045717
Either Beyonder, The Maker, or Annihilus
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>>88045717
Thanos.
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>>88045890
Used.
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>>88045717
I know it won't be Fetus of God. But I want it to be.

We've had enough final bosses from Marvel. Let's get a Capcom one.

And no, Abyss doesn't count.
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>>88045717
Scrooge McDuck
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>>88045933
>I know it won't be Fetus of God. But I want it to be.
How the heck would that thing fight, anyway?
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>>88045761
>Fucking hell, man, so that's what passes for good comic book art these days.

Nobody considers that good comic book art.

That art, and that entire book, about about the level of webcomic slop. Charitably.
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>>88041266
>>I just want Nintendo vs. Capcom to be announced already

You're going to be waiting a long long time then.
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>>88044116
Squirrel Girl is probably pretty fucking likely. Howard the Duck too.

I pray Devil Dinosaur gets in....
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>>88038941
I would like it if they added Silver Surfer.
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>>88045717
Grigori.

Marvel's gotten the boss the past few times. Would allow Dragon's Dogma to get some love too.
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>>88045717
Mickey Mouse
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>>88046723
Having Savan to represent the Arisen or someone like She-Goat would be cool.
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>>88046651
>Squirrel Girl
Anti-hype.

>Howard the Duck
Now we're talking.
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>>88046723
Grigori as the first form and Senechal as the final form would be awesome. Even better if he can double as a playable final boss.
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>>88043876
If he's to be believed, then I guess that means mutants might not be off the table, afterall? I'm more concerned about Doom, though.
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>>88044391

Yea they do
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>>88038518
If no X-Men are allowed, here's what I expect the roster to look like

All movie Avengers except Quicksilver
Spider-Man
Black Panther
Ant-Man/Giant-Man
Wasp
Star-Lord
Rocket
Groot
Gamora
Dr. Strange
Captain Marvel
Black Bolt
Medusa
Loki
Ultron
Thanos
Dr. Octopus
Ms. Marvel
Miles
Nova
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>>88039001
It's over 9000, wow.
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>>88050353
From what James Robinson has said, I don't think Scarlet Witch is going to be on the roster.
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The weekend feels so fucking far away.
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>>88051754
What has Robinson said?
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>>88051809
Well, he said that when he pitched his solo SW comic at a Marvel seminar, they had no plans to do anything with Wanda despite her appearing in the MCU. He kind of had to point it out to them.

That's a very revealing contrast with the comic's division's obsession with the MCU when it comes to other characters.
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>>88051994
fits in with the lego devs having to fight for her and quicksilver for lego marvel 2. i really hope capcom does it as well.
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>>88052337
>lego devs having to fight for her and quicksilver for lego marvel 2
Source on that?
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Capcom:

Samanosuke Akechi (Onimusha)
Masamune Date (Sengoku Basara)
Mitsunari Ishida (Sengoku Basara)
Ryu (Breath of Fire 3)
Asura (Asura's Wrath)
One of the Monster Hunters

At least one of these?
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The ideal Marvel roster would be:
1. Cyclops (Scott Summers)
2. Wolverine (James Howlett)
3. Thor Odinson
4. Captain America (Steve Rogers) with round shield
5. Iron Man (Tony Stark)
6. Hulk (Bruce Banner)
7. Punisher (Frank Castle)
8. Hawkeye (Clint Barton)
9. Iron Fist (Danny Rand)
10. Spider-Man (Peter Parker)
11. Beast (Hank McCoy)
12. Nightcrawler (Kurt Wagner)
13. Nick Fury (not the nigger)
14. Deadpool
15. Dr. Strange
16. Daredevil (Matt Murdock)
17. Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell)
And for the bad guys: Kingpin, Dr. Doom, Magneto, Sabretooth, Green Goblin, Loki, Abomination, Juggernaut, Baron Mordo (no movie nigger), Venom (Eddie Brock), Carnage and Paste-Pot Pete.
Marvel Last Boss: Galactus
Dummy character for training mode: The Bendis
Also fuck Marvel and fuck Capcom for listening to them.
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>>88051777
it's why Wednesday's called "Hump Day"
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>>88051754
I'd say that Marvel Future Fight is another indicator of Wanda's chances.
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>>88054707
Remove Scarlet Witch and Gwenpool and it becomes plausible.
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this guy right here. could play like a Marvel version of Alex or one of Muscle Bomber characters (chain link combos into throws)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhQPG_ACUfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkG87OkVp6U
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>>88039577
>>Already Megaman is out of the picture
Sorry what?
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>>88054707
>no Carol
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>>88054576
How? Has she been announced for the game?
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>>88052923
My only gripe is the lack of Dormammu.
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>>88056148
Nope, been out for over a year and she still isn't in, they even cut her out of the game's Civil War promotion. So I doubt she'd be in this if no X-Men are allowed.
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>>88056423
I'm aware of that, I am playing the game but I don't bother to keep myself aware of future content so I was asking.
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>>88054707
I really think Howard has a good shot at being in this one.
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>>88052923
>Punisher AND Fury
Into the trash.
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bumo
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>>88038763
MvC2 in practice had teams of 2 + assist character you tried your hardest to not actually have in the fight. So I'm not too worried about it as long as the characters have a little extra depth to play with.
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dude just bring back cyclops pls

he had one of the most unique and fun fighting styles ever in a fighting game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAdtFRs2yhA
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>>88059591
Even without the potential X-Embargo, it's still not likely. He wasn't in 3 after all.
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>>88038763
Cap won't be able to say "Avengers Assemble" with just one partner, so 3 mains per team is better.
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>>88040082
MvC2 was still pretty open for the flack it gets. Yes there is a subset of best teams, but the best player in the world still played a team that nobody else did. Jwong is the only relevant Team Matrix player. Clockwork was still hella good with a weird team. Mike Z was mildly relevant with Doom as his best character. The fact is that it was only at the top levels that you were completely done if you didn't pick a top tier, which is true in most fighting games. The game is so freaking hard to play that if you are better at the game than your opponent. your composition doesn't matter as much.
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>>88059591
you'll most likely getting Teen Cyclops
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>>88059628
Well it's upto Marvel anyway, Capcom wanted him in 3.
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>>88046651
but both SG and DD are mutants........
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>>88061588
Again, SG is not a mutant anymore.
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>>88054707
-Wasp
-Gwenpool
-Widow
+Moon Knight
+Deadpool
+Doctor Doom

I hate that I just removed 3 female characters for 3 male ones but I can't think of new non-mutant females to add.

Sif?
Captain Marvel (Carl)
She-Hulk
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>>88062429
Carl is my favorite marvel character too anon
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>>88062429
>I hate that I just removed 3 female characters for 3 male ones
Because? It's not their fault guys are better characters.
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>>88062429
Why would you remove Wasp? Thanks to the MCU general audiences now know her.
Carol Danvers and Kamala would work.
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>>88039577
Why do you lie to me anon? ;_;
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>>88052762
Where's Jean Reno?
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I can't wait for a MCU-pandering Marvel roster with no X-Men, despite the whole goddamn Vs. series starting with them, or Fantastic Four-related characters with the Capcom side having Street Fighter V and Resident Evil pandering up the ass with maybe Donte and Nu-Megaman, along with "waifu" Darkstalkers characters because as we all know absolutely no one in the entire world wants to play as guys like Dimitri, Jon Talbain, Victor, Anakaris, Rikuo, or Lord Raptor, no siree.

I hope this game bombs and we never have another MVC, or better yet never another Vs. game, ever again.
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>>88065516
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>>88040354
Hell from what I've seen, very few characters in MvC3 are completely unusable. Most of the roster is fairly alright and can definetly win when played right. The problem of course is that "alright" pales a lot in comparisson to literal elder god tier characters that are also in the game.
Last year's Evo (2015) actually had a pretty colourful selection of characters with stuff like Modok and Firebrand and Superskrull and Hulk and Haggar and all kinds of stuff like that in the top 8.
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Make a roster with these restrictions
>no X-Men
>no Fantastic Four
>MCU focused (but not exclusive so comics are fine)
>has to include a decent amount of POCs and females
>assuming it's really 2v2, there has to be a 24 character starting roster (no assist only characters)
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>>88066201
Iron Man, War Machine, Thor, Captain America, Vision, Hawkeye, Hulk, Spider-Man, Venom, Scarlet Spider, Ghost Rider, Dr. Strange, Valkyrie, Mantis, Nova, Rocket Raccoon
Dormammu, Blackheart, Shuma-Gorath, Baron Zemo, Satana, Swarm, Ultron, Taskmaster
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>>88065516

Donte is hilarious so I'd love him being in it, and Megaman being shunned again would be even better
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>>88055182
Just people being pessimistic because of how hard Capcom's assfucked the Mega Man franchise over the past several 7 years.
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>>88052923
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>>88069599
That 7 was a typo, but I guess it's about how long Capcom's been assfucking Mega Man.
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https://twitter.com/FrankTieri/status/145923054118256641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Does this mean he'll get in this time? He'd be an easy enough shoto to make. Add in Ken too. Boom! Two shotos people would be happy with.
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>>88069729

He's like one of the most obvious choices there is
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>>88069729
>Two shotos people would be happy with.
Ryu/Akuma
Done.
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>>88069729

I have no problem with Spidey being the shoto type if I meant I could have Pete, Miles, Cindy and Gwen
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Who the fuck cares about the fourth sequel in anything?

If you really had skillz you could have already gathered the Capcom and Marvel rosters in Mugen and had more fun with that.

Enjoy paying $60 for Street Fighter V all over again you fucking troglodytes.

>>>/v/
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>>88070064
>Mugen
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>>88038518
Josh Keaton wont return for Spider-man, instead we will get Drake Bell
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>>88070064
By that logic, why bother with Pokemon when you can just make your own in RPG Maker.

The fuck outta here, you imbecile.
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>>88070819
But making your game that has what you like is fun.
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>>88069729
He'll just be a palette swap for Spider-Man

>>88070389
I dunno, Capcom's been pretty good with returning VAs
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just don't see how this is real
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>>88072635
>I dunno, Capcom's been pretty good with returning VAs
Look at Dead Rising.
>>88072639
Where there's smoke, there's some motherfucker burning evidence.
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>>88070064

Have you heard about this MUGEN shit? It's a fighting program for poor people, mostly illegals, who can't afford proper fighters so they have to build their own. Yeah, they take money out of decent, hard-working Capcoms and instead they put a shitty bootlegged overpowered Ryu in a game next to a broken, glitchy Zangief, and they think it's just as good! And Crooked Hillary has no problem with it! Unbelievable!

Sad!
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>>88072732
>Dead Rising
Frank had a different English VA for TVC
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>>88047969
>Arisen's special moves are calling in pawns of differing classes to assist.
>Super is calling in your Sorcerer to open a Maelstrom
Too bad nobody remembers DD.
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>>88073313
Which is why DDO isn't a thing, right?
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>>88069729
So I'm guessing he's one of the those 8 characters who were cut from the game in that case.
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>>88069729
Wait, was Miles even a thing when UMvC3 came out?
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>>88073816
yea his first appearance was earlier that year (2011)

im not sure if he appeared in comic when the original vc3 came out tho
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>>88045717
Since they're probably going to lift the Time Runs Out/Secret Wars plot for this, I'd guess either one of the Beyonders, the Maker, or God-Emperor Doom.

>>88073816
Yes, but not by enough time to really incorporate him into the game in some form.
>>
If Wasp gets in over Ant-Man I'm going to take a steaming shit on Marvel's logo.
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i bet you guys $50 on paypal its fake and if its anything its shonen vs capcom
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>>88075010
I'm honestly not even sure how Ant-Man would work. How would you incorporate his size-changing ability into gameplay?

>>88075071
>Shonen Jump vs. Capcom
I would actually play that.

But there's little-to-no reason for it to be Shonen Jump instead of Marvel. I'm not sure how these sources could get 'Marvel' out of 'Shonen Jump'.
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>>88075071
>>88075668
Shonen Jump vs Marvel would be objectively superior
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>>88038692
There will not be one.
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>>88075668
He can go from Sentinel size to Rocket Raccoon size with a normal mode as in between.
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>>88066201
I want a 66 characters roster

>Marvel
Cap Murrica
Iron Man
Hulk
Thor
Hawkeye
Black Panther
Spider-Man
Doc Strange
Venom
Dormammu
Shuma Gorath
Blackheart
Ghost Rider
Thanos
War Machine
Captain Marvel
Rocket Racoon
She-Hulk
Iron Fist
M.O.D.O.K
Taskmaster
Blade
Nova
Vision
Luke Cage
Baron Zemo
Daredevil
Ultron
Elektra
Punisher
Galacta
Ronan
Black Bolt

>Capcom
Ryu
Captain Commando
Akuma
Chun Li
Laura
Morrigan
Mega Man Volnutt
Asura
Gene
Soki
Nemesis
Dante
Masamune
Regina
Yellow Iris
Amaterasu
Vanessa
Frank West
Batsu
Hayato
Strider
Fou Lu
Haggar
Spencer
Tessa
Rouge
Nero
Vergil
Tron
Ingrid
Kasuga
Zero
Jin
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>>88064694
I don't think people know the Wasp until the movie "Ant-Man and Wasp" is out.
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>>88076769

That's the entire reason to put her in there. A profile boost.

Same way 3 put in a bunch of people who were planned to get a push in the future.
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>>88065516
>Nu-Megaman
You keep saying that on every thread, what even is it?
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>>88077476
Presumably the Megaman for the upcoming cartoon. The next newest Megaman was introduced years ago and was just an aged up version of an old boxart.
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>>88077476
The Mega Man from that new cartoon that's being made.
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>>88077476
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>>88077545
JUST
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>>88077545
They should have made him bigger.
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>>88065516
They should make Marvel vs Capcom Horror Edition.

Blade, Dracula, Frankenstein, etc vs the Darkstalkers and the mummy from Captain Commando.
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Is anyone else hoping for Carnage?

All of his stories (or stories involving him) have been good since Civil War ended, and the current Conway series was especially good.
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>>88077987
But they can't get Castlevania characters in that
Pointless
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>>88077545
Please no. I don't know shit about Mega Man, but that thing looks like a character from one of those "How To Draw Anime" books made by an American, which means he looks nothing like Mega Man, even when there's a billion more versions of Mega Man than there are of Spider-Man.
>>
>>88077997
Honestly, if we don't get X-Men then I think Venom & Carnage will get in as Capcom's "apology". A lot of the people who want a ton of X-Men, want symbiotes too.

I think Spidey villains would be a suitable replacement for the lack of X-Men. Venom, Carnage, Ock, Goblin, Sandman, Mysterio, Lizard, Shocker, Boomerang (maybe with the other Foes?) & Kraven could all have cool movesets.
>>
All I know is that we aren't getting Gene, and that sucks.
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>>88078607
>even when there's a billion more versions of Mega Man than there are of Spider-Man.

You weren't kidding about not knowing shit about 'Megaman
>>
http://marvelvscapcom4.com/
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>>88079400
I'm confident he'll show up this time. I bet Capcom's wanted him in the past but Marvel's said no.

However, Marvel is now pushing him & I'm sure Capcom will take the chance to put in such a goofy character. They love their fucking goofy picks, I'm expecting another crazy character alongside Howard.
>>
>>88079528
They knew about him enough for him to get a card in Heroes and Heralds using his classic look, so there's a strong chance.
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>>88078958
Doc Ock, Venom, Carnage, Green Goblin (with a Hobgoblin alt), and Sandman would all be great, though I hope they'd all have their classic looks (whether by default or alternate costume doesn't matter, so long as they're in).
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>>88079369
It might not mean anything, but that's pretty interesting how that redirects to Capcom's website...
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>>88041266
How about a SEGA vs Capcom? Would that work?
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>>88052923
>Frank
He HAS to have a Dillon skin.

And Rucka's Punished Frank.
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>>88055122
I can imagine Herc going like Hakan. Including the oil. ESPECIALLY THE OIL.


Here's an interesting Marvel line-up:

Miles
Kamala
Patsy
JaneThor
CHulk
RiriMan

you know... :D
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>>88045717
I still want Ultron fused with Sigma from Mega Man X, if you need one form to be a giant torso to fight then they could use that Gamma body Sigma had in, I want to say, X5 and Ultron is an MCU character so normies would at least have an idea about who/what he is.

If a Mega Man is playable and we know they won't be cause they're a shit character for fighting games but let's imagine for a moment we could even have them say some line implying Wily worked on the fused body/code/whatever.
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>>88081152
Yeah they're so shit, that's why every one of them except Geo has been playable at least once in a game.

Capcom was pissed at Inafune, it's the sole reason why he wasn't in 3.
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>>88038692
Holy shit, Zangief
>"That is heem, Comrade Volverine! There's the little blue Bolshevik who stole my borsch!"
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>>88078078
What would it take to get Konami?

Would love the Belmonts in, and I bet people would cream their pants at Metal Gear characters.
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>>88069729
Everyone was on board with Miles killing everyone in a single venom blast?
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>>88079369
This is a troll.

BUT marvelsvcapcom.com is real and there's some very interesting, and potentially disappointing, data behind this.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225750951&postcount=4288
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>>88070389
Drake Bell has been blacklisted by Disney due to voicing a character in one of those straight to video animated DC movies, I believe it was a spider based character too.
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>>88081216
That's Josh, he's played Black Spider.

The real reason is that he was arrested again, plus he's bankrupt.
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>>88077545
>make a series where Mega Man is just an AI program in a tamagotchi like device except those don't require any maintenance like feeding, cleaning up shit, etc
>no one cares
>make a series where Mega Man is a boy that transforms into Mega Man ala sentai
>shit's not even out yet and everyone loses their minds
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>>88079400
>Frank's wearing the outfit he wore in the opening of his arcade game which was made by Capcom

Neat.
>>
>>88059469
yea this
Only cyclops could carry as a assist character if you were lucky in your setplay in MvC2
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>>88081236
The first one was a logical progression, mang.
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>>88039481

BITCH what the fuck are you on about, Capcom VS SNK: Millennium Fight 2000 had 3v3, 1v3, 4v2, it had so many options. Stop sucking capcom's dick. Pretty you're the piece of shit who buys dlc and day one bundles. Just be gone, be gone with the wind already.
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>>88081306
If you think that they're the same game at all aside from the team aspect you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>88081135
>lumping Miles, CHulk and Kamala in with the rest of that trash.
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>>88081152
>>88081188
Niitsuma's bullshit about Mega Man not being viable as a fighting game character was just that: bullshit. If you go and look back at his reasons for it, he's reaching farther than Dhalsim's limbs.

>>88081212
That GAF post is fitting more pieces together. It really is starting to look more and more that MvC4 is real.
>>
>>88082328
Don't know who Niitsuma is, just saying every time a Mega Man showed up in a vs game I really did not like how any of them played. Rock was fine in Smash but that's a party game, shit's different there.
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>>88082340
Ryota Niitsuma, lead producer on MvC3 and UMvC3.
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>>88081188
>Capcom was pissed at Inafune, it's the sole reason why he wasn't in 3.

>let him pic the Mega Man reps for the game, his husbando (Zero) and a character of his pet sub series (Tron)
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This guy right here. Make Aegis Reflector a special move to create all kinds of a shenanigans as well as temporarily no sell beam attacks
>>
>>88082340
And yet Zero works out fabulously in every game. The issue is approaching Megaman in a bottom-up approach of what he should have instead how they want him to play and give him abilities based on that.
>>
>>88082340
MegaMan in the MvC is an absolutely inaccurate portrayal that is pretty much 90% made up.
Volnutt has a very limited movelist even in RPG games but I thought he was fun to play in TvC.

X has a very large moveset, it's upto Capcom to do the right thing.


>>88082647
Must have already been too late in development.
>>
>>88082647
Was Tron or Zero revealed?

Anyone remember when people were getting mad that neither Spider-Man or Mega Man characters were getting revealed?
>>
>>88083410
Make Megaman Sins?
>>
>>88081236

Maybe if nu-Megaman wasn't being written by those hacks Man of Action who are responsible for such pieces of shit like Ben 10, Generator Rex, and Ultimate Spider-Man.

At least that goofy 90s show had heart and was fun to watch for some laughs. Comparing that and nu-Megaman is like comparing Adam West Batman to The Batman.
>>
>>88083473
When was*
>>
>>88079400
Can someone translate for me? Also, do Japs have a weeaboo equivalent but with western comics?
>>
>>88083473
I don't remember anyone getting mad about no Spider-Man characters cause Spider-Man is usually a shoe in for that kind of stuff.

As for Mega Man I don't need to even start on the shitstorm that started cause there wasn't a Mega Man in the game, unless you count Zero I guess.
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>>88081212
>http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225750951&postcount=4288
If Marvel vs Capcom 4 is a phone game then all hope is lost, time to kill myself, god doesn't exist and nothing is worth it.
>>
>>88083592
No I mean he was revealed really late that people were getting agitated.

As for Mega Man, everyone knows about that. I remember when we all thought he was confirmed in the leak screenshot that revealed Haggar.
Nah, the X version of Zero isn't a Mega Man. People were even more furious when he got a X skin.
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>>88083498
Ben 10 and Generator Rex were good.
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>>88045717
Go Magus or go home.
Alternatively, go with what >>88081152 said, I mean, it still works, and Ultron is still considered a cosmic thread, so yeah, I'm ok with that.

The only thing I truly want is no more stupid boss choices like Galatcus, I mean, I respect the character, but he had more heel7face turns than motherfucking Big Show.
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>>88083523
Westaboo?
>>
you guys are setting yourselves up for a huge disappointment
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>>88079400
Is that fucking Galacta? They should have put her in 3 so you could play as the last boss without actually nerfing Galactus.
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>>88084140
Has she even appeared anywhere after that mini?
>>
>>88084924
sadly no
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>>88084028
Even if MvC4 isn't real, we can take solace in the fact that Iron Galaxy is most definitely handling the UMvC3 port.
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>>88088472
>UMVC3
>getting a port

PFFFFFFFF
>>
So apparently, some more stuff went down since the Polygon rumor. What was it?
>>
>>88088506
Polygon implied it, and Iron Galaxy has already done Capcom fighter ports. It's totally happening.
>>88088556
Well one of the neogaf insiders is locked in at MvC4 being announced tomorrow at the PSX keynote. But aside from that nothing else.
>>
I want Jin and Rashid so that I can have team tornado bros.
>>
>>88088556
>>88088651
Peep this
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=225780228
>>
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=225780228#post225780228

A decent compilation of info up till now.
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>>88088715
> Will be more casual-focused compared to SFV which is more competitive-focused, have big marketing push

worry
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>>88088863

Say what you will about MK, but it being more casual-focused increased the sales which would be better for the game.
>>
>>88038518
/v/ shit goes on /v/
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>>88038518
Just make Disney VS Capcom already!
>>
>>88088999
You mean single player focused. Because 2D string combat is the farthest thing away from "casual".
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>>88038518
From the rumors that it will be based from the MCU, expect for Black Widow to be there and be overpowered beyond top tier.
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>>88083498
>Ben 10
>Gen rex
>Shit
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>>88081439
>Miles Kamala and Chulk not trash
Back to >>>/co/mblr
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>>88088863
>Will focus more on where the money is instead of autists

Good.
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>>88089250
But they are shit.
>>
>>88050353
Im not playing it without gwenpool
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>>88089360
You done it now Boyo
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>>88089408
Good. Keep that cancer and her cancerous fanbase away from it.
>>
>>88089250
Can't speak for gen rex as I've never seen it, but the only decent thing ben 10 has ever given us was incest porn.
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>>88089442
Why are (You) so rude, anon-kun?
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>MVC4 is gonna be more bare bomes than SFV
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>>88089574
They understand that SFV is played most significantly by the fgc so they built their business model around them via a long-term content schedule.

A game like MvC which is for casuals will obviously be designed with casuals in mind, and will have novelty features like story mode and all that shit everyone plays for like 4 or 5 hours max
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>>88089574
The reason SFV was released bare bones is they thought they could get the fighting game community playing the core game as soon as possible first (since that's all those people care about) and fill out the other aspects for more casual players later.

They found out the hard way that wasn't a good idea, so it's unlikely they'll repeat it again.
>>
>>88089666
>will have novelty features like story mode

Just like how MVC3 had story mode, right Satan?
>>
>>88089773

It has a traditional arcade mode with character specific endings, one on par with the amount of singleplayer stuff Capcom made for any fighting game at the time

That's literally more than SF5 launched with
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>>88089839
Two still images with some quick lines of text a story mode does not make.
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>>88089347
You wanna know how MvC2 and 3 have been stables in tournaments for years?
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>>88091413
>You wanna know how MvC2 and 3 have been stables in things only autists care about for years?

Not really.
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>>88091502
If only "artists" liked Marvel, the series never would've gone farther than 2.
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>>88091880
Autists
Fuck phones.
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