/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

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First for Democracy

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Droid gfs

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What is he, /swco/?

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>we will never have a based /sw/ vidya game in this decade

>>88034449
That's Dash anon.

Why did Boba get mad about his dad dying when he could've just adopted one of the millions of Jango clones to be his new dad?

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>>88034453
Like we deserve one...

>>88034480
That's like asking why are you so starved for love when you're surrounded by things designed to simulate love.

>>88034501
Its better to hate all of your children, than to hate most of your children and love the rest and then adopt other children that barely know who you are

>>88034501
George loved us enough to give us TCW, shut the hell up.

>>88034453
Nobody thinks a full blown AAA Star Wars game would work witbout Jedi. And since Luke has spent the past 30 years sitting on his thumbs crying about Obi-wan instead of seeking/training new Jedi, that means we can never have anything like the Jedi Knight games again.

Knights of the Old Republic III is one of the few cancelled STAR WARS games which I wish were reality.

>>88034480
They may have had Jango's face, but they weren't Jango

This is going to sound really daft, so bear with me, but is anyone else disappointed with the TFA merchandising? All we got is your average Hasbro and LEGO stuff. With the prequels we got all sorts of shit: action figure, insane looking toys, LEGOs, a fuckton of videogames, candy (remember the Jar Jar one?), even a series of animated shorts... with TFA there's practically none of that, the only vidya related things are TFA content in a mobile game and a map in nuBattlefront. It's just so disappointing because just seeing that shit used to put me in a Star Wars mood, like having Christmas-related apparel around.

>>88034582
No. Genndy gave us The Clone Wars. Afterwards, George acted like it never happened.

>>88034679
Good. Genddywars wasn't that great.

>>88034639
Exactly, they were better. They could've taught him how to not lose in a fight against a blind guy.

>>88034692
It's better than CGI Wars

>>88034695
Speaking of jobbing, when are we going to get Phasma: A Star Wars Story that's basically Police Academy in space and all about Phasma being hilariously incompetent.

>>88034721
(you)

>>88034721
>i like thing, so therefore other thing is bad and poo haha fuck lucas

>>88034721
(You)

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http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/twitter-rogue-one-star-wars-live-stream-1201928702/

>Twitter this week will exclusively stream a special “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story” event — including previously unreleased footage from the forthcoming Disney/Lucasfilm movie — followed by a Q&A with director Gareth Edwards and cast members.

>Fans can submit questions on Twitter for the cast to answer during the event, moderated by People deputy editor JD Heyman, by tweeting the hashtag #AskRogueOne. Fans can also Tweet with the following hashtags and a Star Wars Twitter emoji will automatically appear: #RogueOne, #DeathStar, #StarWars and #StarWarsRogueOne. The live stream will be available to anyone via Twitter’s channels, whether they’re logged in or not.

Are we going to get any new BIG GUNS?

>>88034721
Explain how without using any Grievous episodes as an example.

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>>88034721

>>88034721
Its not a fucking competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_bweDG6t1U

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>>88034914
literally perfect

>>88034914
Wait, why is dash rendar in the thumbnail? Is he the inside man?

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>>88034721
>It's better than CGI Wars

>>88034655
>complaining about Lego

The TFA sets were well designed and looked very close to the ships in the movie. If you don't like the design of the ships, don't blame Lego. They did the best with what they were given.

>>88035050
But it is, though.

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>there are people browsing /co/ RIGHT NOW who honestly in their hearts believe Dr. Aphra is interesting enough to get her own comic book

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>>88034721

>>88035105
Only because I missed the SW comic train when it first came through the station.

>>88034679
stop

>>88035063
Did you even read what I posted at all

>>88034721
epic my dude

>>88035105
I don't, but it is at least better than all the OT characters getting comics one by one. The fact that they're finally branching out is good.

>>88035166
What does that even mean?

>>88035194
Simply put: I haven't read the comics yet

>>88035226
Dr. Aphra is a shitty character and her comic probably won't be worth the time.

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Come on, guys, you can only feed it so much. 9 (you)s out of 22 unique posters in the thread is just ridiculously suspicious

>>88035244
Aphra is a perfectly fine character, and her comic will probably be fun.

Stop being a shitter

>>88035311
Interesting commode.

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>>88035372
You really want one of these, don't you?

>>88035410
Who wouldn't?

>>88034449
Zorba the Hutt

Why haven't I watched ANY of REBELS Season 3 (1080p) I downloaded from Mega yet?

>>88035521
You're procrastinating because it feels like a daunting task, even though you know you'll probably breeze through it enjoyable once you get around to starting.

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>>88035419
BLUE RINGS ARE FOR SISSIES ARGGGHHHHHHHHHHHGIO HGEOG#E* #W*RGH&*(# G~

>>88035372
She was there only for feminist pandering and is a writer's pet

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>>88034449
Who am I, /swco/?

>>88035006
Thrawn is in the thumbnail, you dumbass.

>>88035609
dead ;_;7

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>>88035576

>>88035634
>robot
>dead

choose one

>>88035244
How can you not like Aphra?

>>88035621
No, that's Dash Rendar

>>88035580
Which is hilarious seeing as they wouldn't be caught dead reading stuff like that

>>88035609
Doesn't look like anything to me.

>>88035549
True. I enjoyed watching the chronological THE CLONE WARS and Seasons 1 & 2 for REBELS. I guess I'll download a few more episodes before I start watching this season.

Anyone have BDRips, maybe 1:1 of the Blu-ray discs, for all of THE CLONE WARS and REBELS?

Which old EU characters you WOULDN'T want to see brought back in any shape or form?

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Statement of Intentions: I am going to try to start an actual discussion with these meatbags here in the Star Wars gener- I mean in the Rebels general.

Inquire: What aspects of legends do you want back into canon, not works or stories, but simply the superficial things you loved from the old stories.

Declaration: The HK series assassin droids were neat, especially our very own HK-47. I hope they show up in some capacity in rebels, much like the dark troopers did, but redesigned to be sentries on board imperial freighters.

>>88035810
I want the Star Forge back

>>88035769
Why dose Rebels have such beautiful scenery?

>>88035892
Because thats where all the budget goes

>>88035803
Specifics regarding Revan. It's only gonna lead to massive outcries of 'not muh Revan'

I wouldn't mind a story about the concept of Revan, though. Have something to show that Revan existed, and the influences Revan had on the galaxy. Just leave out specifics like gender or any other form of identity

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>>88035892
A lot of it has to do with the art style, which is inspired by Ralph McQuarrie's concept art.

>>88035803
Mara Jade.
>>88035810
I want HK-47 back.
>>88035892
Cause Ralph McQuarrie RIP.

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Nelvaanians are hot. HOT!

>>88036058
The mutated ones are actually sexier.

>>88036078
Too much fat, not enough beef.

>>88035580
>She was there only for feminist pandering

Then was was she hot? Feminists aren't into being attractive. They hate penis. Aphra was made to be appealing to men.

>>88036114
Eh, I think it works for them.

>>88034592
>Nobody thinks a full blown AAA Star Wars game would work witbout Jedi
Are you retarded? There's a lot of us that do. That's why we were devastated when 1313 got cancelled.
>Luke has spent the past 30 years sitting on his thumbs crying about Obi-wan instead of seeking/training new Jedi
He did train new Jedi. They were all killed by Ren.

>>88036133
>Then was was she hot?

*Then WHY was she hot?

>>88036133
>Feminists aren't into being attractive. They hate penis.
You know, I kind of want to lock a couple of you types into cells with only each other to talk to, and check back in three months to see what you've convinced each other feminists are like.

>>88036133
>Aphra
>hot

She's got a booty but not much else

>>88036140
I mean, if you put a paper bag over their head, ugh. They look like someone made a chocolate statue of a Nelvaanian and melted it.

>>88035257
Surprised no one bitched about you not using the nuSarlaac.

>>88036196
But their mutated head is one of the sexiest parts!

>>88036189
>She's got a booty but not much else

>dat ass
>not fat
>cute face (when drawn well)
>space asian

She's got enough.

>>88036173
Your post made me cringe

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>>88035810
HK is the best droid companion.

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>>88036231
>cute face (when drawn well)

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http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/29/star-wars-rogue-one-u-wing-fighter
The U-Wing is a beauty.

>>88036331
If only she was different, then my shallow mind could like her more.

Why the fuck weren't there new fighters in The Force Awakens?

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>>88035646
Nope.

>>88036404
There were concepts for new fighters, but they were thrown out in favor of the whole "LET'S APE THE OT AESTHETIC" thing

>>88036404
Resistance are obviously ill equipped. But to be fair, the T-70 X-Wing and two seater TIE's are new.

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>>88036457
>tfw we could've gotten some of these

https://imgur.com/a/dlkyY

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>Barriss and Ahsoka will never meet in Rebels and settle the score.

They could have had an epic battle. In mudwrestling of course.

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>>88036547
This makes me sad.

>>88036385
she's only smash material, the whole basis of her character was just waifu

>>88036640
Basically. I'm saying I'd rather she be a husbando.

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>>88036547
This one looks pretty good while still retaining the "reused OT designs" vibe

>>88036688
That's because it takes OT stuff and makes it into something new, a shuttle. It's a logical step.

TFA took the X-wing, changed the red to blue, and made it look like the original concept art.

It took TIEs and recolored them, shrunk them down, and made a variant with an extra seat.

>>88036331
Anakin's hands are the wrong fucking way around.

>>88035810
Disintegrators should be brought back as a heinous weapon that causes terrible pain

>>88036688
Dunno, the shuttle design they used wasn't awful. I had more of an issue with their fighters.

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>>88036140
>>88036114
>>88036078
>>88036058

GHOST HANDJOB! WOOOOO

>>88036439
He gets half credit for trying but still fails from lack of actual followthrough.

>>88036813
They're like fat, blue naked mole rats. Combined to make a quite alluring figure.

>>88036852
Vader didn't follow through his first time either. He was actually told to stop.

>>88036404
Don't ask us when none of us are JJ.

>>88036942
Releasing a victim he was obviously otherwise happy to kill because he was told to stop by Grand Moff Tarkin, who was in command of the Death Star, isn't exactly the same thing and you should know it. Shame on you for pretending it's the same thing.

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>>88036966
Hey now, you never know! One of us might be!

>>88036173
Anon they already live like that

>>88037030
is that thing really that big, a starfighter should stop being a starfighter when you can fit another starfighter on it

>>88037065
It's more like a small troop transport or a gunship than a fighter

>>88036232
Hit too close home?

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>>88037065
I'm not sure the Mando one counts considering it's used as a dropship for jetpack troopers. It's not like we don't have incredibly fast carrier (cargo or troop) ships, considering the Falcon. Heck, Slave 1 did fairly well against a Jedi Starfighter, and those aren't slouches.

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>>88036374
>X-Wing
>Cadillac of the skies

>>88036688
Eh, kinda looks like a TIE and a shuttle had a baby. Not sure if want.

>>88036980
What are you talking about? All I said was Vader didn't follow through because he was told to stop. We don't even know if Ren let the guy go. Shame on you for your autistic backlash.

>>88036173
>You know, I kind of want to lock a couple of you types into cells with only each other to talk to, and check back in three months to see what you've convinced each other feminists are like


Why bother? It's common knowledge that american feminists are basically just female supremacists.

>>88036058
Now post the version with his throbbing erection out.

>>88037127
It's probably only included because it's called a figher, even though it isn't. As far as I know, Slave I's ship isn't called a fighter

>>88037154
>>88036688
Isn't he cute?

>>88037105
I think it's closer to a starfighter than, say, the LAAT even though their troop capacity is about the same. It's just a difference, though. LAATs are very solid, provide some fairly heavy firepower. Mandos, however, seem to prefer speed and overall maneuverability.

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>>88037157
I am afraid it is you who are autistic, anon, and about a great many things. Hell, you're trying to equate two scenes as the same while also pointing out that they're completely different. Make up your mind! At any rate Vader maintains his menace despite backing down due to Tarkin stepping in. Kylo, however, gains nothing by having the rest of the scene cut off, and frankly at that point killing the guy would actually make him seem more of a sperg given the guy was just delivering bad news, not reporting on his own personal failure. This would be like Vader killing Veers for trying to make an excuse for Admiral Ozzel.

And it certainly doesn't get any better for Kylo during his second spergout given those troopers are clearly familiar enough with their shitty boss to just slip away without even investigating screams and eruptions of sparks in the detention area.

This isn't even difficult.

>>88037355
While I found this scene to be funny while watching the film... It's cringy thinking about it.

>>88037193
I just meant larger ships can still be as fast as a fighter and even pretty damn maneuverable. I never got a sense during the run on the Death Star II that those X-Wings were slowed down to keep pace with the Falcon.

I think that particular ship is in a position where roles blur, and it's in a fairly interesting spot given we don't see fighter/troop insertion vehicles too often. It's like how the A-Wing is a straight up fighter, the Y-Wing can dogfight a bit but is better known in the capacity as a bomber, and the X-Wing combines both fighter/bomber capacity. It can dogfight with the best of them and still unleash torpedoes when necessary.

Which reminds me of Poe's X-Wing. Goddamn that torpedo spam against the oscillator. If that kind of rapid fire bombing is standard no wonder they didn't bother with Y-Wings or Y-Wing descendants.

>>88037403
It really is, it basically implies that Kylo throws these tantrums all the time.

>>88037030
I never realised the A-Wing was that big.

>>88037248
Isnt just flying on your jetpack right to the palace risky of you getting shot down, when you could safely land from the troop transport?

>>88037403
I'm sure it was a deliberate undermining of Kylo Ren's menace for the purpose of making him seem out of control and a slave to his own emotions. It's like him talking about feeling the pull towards the light earlier on. We're supposed to believe that Han has a chance of reaching Ben's better half so that his murdering Han instead is a sucker punch.

I don't think it was actually done all that well, but I'm 100% certain this is what JJ was trying to do. At the very least we might excuse him for being rushed because Harrison, I'm sure, wanted his one and done for good with this movie. Besides, he almost died twice during it between his plane crash and the Falcon set tried to kill him.

>>88036374
Please explain the purpose of the attack mode.

>>88037512
Jabba's guards are shit and the bounty hunters are inside. It's also not as cool

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>>88037501
I mean, it just seems so out of place with the movie.

The storm troopers should have been replaces with a mouse droid or something.

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>http://www.cbr.com/rogue-one-ultimate-ticket-gives-you-unlimited-screenings/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list

>unlimited screenings

So after listening to Lost Stars, what is the timeframe of the test fire on Jedha and the events on the Death Star?

Because Thane and etc don't seem to realize what it's being used for.

Is this an Ask Pablo moment?

>>88037355
>I am afraid it is you who are autistic
>Goes on a rant about a simple scene with Ren

Calm yourself. I think you missed the point of the original poster entirely. All he was saying was that Ren can and will threaten his own officers like Vader did. Being internally conflicted doesn't hinder this.

Ezra in a pink dress when?

>>88037656
I'll see it once with my dad and brother, and then watch it again when the blu-ray rip is leaked. Who the fuck goes to the cinema multiple times to watch the same movie?

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>>88036374
Ha, and we were talking about fighter/transports and this thing didn't even get a mention. Shame.

I still prefer those LAATs, baby. That distinctive sexy engine sound! Still the U-Wings have grown on me considerably.

I wish the Empire would use more of their gunships. Glad we at least got them on Lothal, suggesting that they have far-reaching use and not just on Coruscant, even though at the same time we don't see them very often. The Empire using shuttles is okay but they never really struck me as either fast or maneuverable enough for intense combat zones. The FO transport, well, not a fan but it is what it is. Hopefully we get some better vehicles and ships later on. I wasn't really impressed by anything in TFA, especially the shot of their walkers during Hux's speech. We never even got to see them in action. That alone is I think my big reason for eagerly waiting the release of Rogue One. At least we're getting some ground, air, and space action!

>>88037721
fuck off faggot

>>88037713
If you can't handle discussions maybe you shouldn't be on this site. You're clearly too precious for 4chan.

>>88037590
>I mean, it just seems so out of place with the movie.
How? The movie constantly lets you know Ren is not mentally sound.

>The storm troopers should have been replaces with a mouse droid or something.
I don't see how that would make a difference. I don't even see the problem with it because they're stormtroopers. The scene implies even these armed soldiers are frightened by his tantrums. The officers are nervous when they have to report to him. Literally the only one who could stand up to Ren was Hux, and only because Snoke was watching them.

>>88037776
Anon, quit being overly sensitive.

>>88037713
>Ren can and will threaten his own officers like Vader did. Being internally conflicted doesn't hinder this.

Threatening random people who weren't involved with the failure isn't an effective use of menace. How do you not get that? You make an example of the person who failed. Just menacing the messenger won't work, it'll just make sure whoever fucks up finds a more junior officer to deliver the bad news. It's why that guy was clearly afraid despite none of it being his fault.

This is a fairly clear fault of Kylo Ren, not something to be appreciated. At least when Vader throttled Motti he was establishing the pecking order to a bunch of uniformed dbags who felt their technology had surpassed the Force. His use of "magic" to prove he can kill any of them without even touching them was an effective demonstration regardless of whether he was called off by Tarkin. Unfortunately for Tagge he felt by stepping into Tarkin's role he was immune. He learned better.

>>88037885
You tried at least. If only you'd tried actually sticking to the topic instead of whining about how you were being treated.

Thrawns a fuck boy, prove me wrong

>>88037942
But is he a sissy fuckboy?

>>88037942
Now now, at least wait until you see his commissioned paintings of him taking dong before making up your mind.

>>88037889
>Threatening random people who weren't involved with the failure isn't an effective use of menace.
So it didn't cross your mind that perhaps he wasn't one of the officers in charge of those troopers? Also, Captain Piett was in a similar situation and even apologized and was strangled to death anyways. Does this make Vader less menacing? No.

>This is a fairly clear fault of Kylo Ren, not something to be appreciated.
His faults are what people appreciate the most. The very reason Ren is considered one of the best parts of TFA is how unpredictable his behavior is. From threatening and scaring his officers to having tantrums. I think you're basically upset he's not like Vader which was the point of his character.

>>88035984
>>88035810

Revan's such a contentious character that no matter what you do you're going to get somebody flipping out. That doesn't mean that I think they shouldn't try, it would be nice to see something of the original KOTOR make it's way back into canon. On another note, realted to the HK-series, I was thinking that Kalani might claim the HK-series as his "predecessors" or think of them as "noble ancestors" or something like that.

>>88036547
>K-wing
>J-wing
>L-wing
I feel like they came up with the name first and then designed the ship, only the K-wing doesn't look goofy as fuck. That Rebel transport however was pretty good.

>>88037921
I'm not here to argue any topic. I'm only pointing out the irony of an autistic ranter calling someone autistic for having an opinion. Don't get offended, boy.

>>88038057
Considering we saw no officers like that on Jakku, no, I don't think he was anything more than the sacrificial lamb sent in to tell Kylo Ren the bad news.

Also Piett was never strangled by Vader. He was killed on the Executor moments before the ship crashed.

>The very reason Ren is considered one of the best parts of TFA
Well I'd need to see the source on that one. I've more often seen him mocked for his antics rather than seen him praised for his menace.

>>88037661
I guess it would depend on when Thane and Jude get onto the Death Star.

I assume that they come to the Death Star right after Rogue One and during the course of ANH

>>88037215
Same, guaging from the below webm in >>88037248, they intiially acted like a gunship or dropship, but immediately after dumping troops would theoretically engage in dogfights or assault runs on enemy capital ships.

Everytime I see this fighter's landing pose, I always think
>SUN'S OUT
>GUN'S OUT
because of the wing position.

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>>88038102
No, you're trying to somehow bolster your flimsy argument by attacking the other person by calling him "autistic." Nobody cares who you are, you're both anonymous. Rely on the strength of your argument, if it has any.

>>88037030
>>88037065
>>88037193
Original designer here. Yeah I only included the mango fighter because the wook said it was a starfighter.

>>88038057
You mean Needa, and even though we as an audience know he wasn't at fault, the Falcon just disappearing when it was in their scopes seconds before looks really bad for the guy in charge. He's stuck in a position where the target was lost on his watch and he has no reasonable explanation that he can provide.

Ren on the other hand is snapping at a messenger. The guy was just there to deliver news.

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>>88037169
There is a nude version if you wanna see.

>>88037661
>inb4 pablo says Thane was remembering wrong
He already used this excuse once

>>88038215
I wouldn't have done otherwise, senpai. It's not like the Mangos stuck to standard starfighter/gunship classifications. As far as I could tell, during the Clone Wars they relied on jetpack-guys, fighters, and their gunship/fighter to maintain air superiority.

They're zippy guys, they zip.

>>88038254
I suppose it's possible the guy was in charge of recovery efforts, I mean nothing in the movie proves he's not, but he really doesn't seem like he has the stones for directing combat ops. He comes off as the wet nosed junior officer who forgot to put two lumps of sugar in Hux's caf so he was sent down to deliver the news to Kylo Ren.

>>88038215
I really like that image. It'd be cool if you did more for other types of ships too.

You should also add the Fang fighter from Rebels(the ship used by the Protectors)

>>88038266
Consistency! Obviously Thane has a shit memory. Probably too busy thinking about his hot Imperial girlfriend.

>>88038147
>Considering we saw no officers like that on Jakku
That's not how this works anon. Hux didn't step foot on Jakku and still took responsibility for Finn helping BB8.
>Also Piett was never strangled by Vader.
Shit I got Piett and Needa confused. I meant Needa dammit! Needa!
>I've more often seen him mocked for his antics rather than seen him praised for his menace.
Anon, many characters get mocked for their antics, especially Anakin. Good characters like Luke and ANH Obi-Wan also get made fun of for being whiny and senile respectively. But as for Ren, even critics of TFA like Max Landis enjoyed him a lot.

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You can will one of these videogames into existence, BUT ONLY ONE. Also, if the game falls into Legends (like JK3), it still will get made, only under the Legends banner.

Which do you choose?

>>88038300
My hands are tied right now, so feel free to crop it out.
>>88038328
I had planned to include the fang fighter, it was just impossible to find a good image of it online. I was also planning to expand the image with more starships, but I had completely forgotten about the whole project up until >>88037030 posted my image.

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Is this real? Please let it be real.

>>88038326
Well, even Piett looked all scared and shaken up when the Falcon escaped at the end of ESB. Like he was afraid Vader would do something like he did to Needa. Pretty sure it was the same case for that FO officer.

>>88038552
Best Tie is canon?

>>88038552
Wookieepedia has a canon article of it and it cites a SW Rebels episode. I haven't caught up with the latest season so I can't be sure though

>>88038489
Jedi Master sounds like a pretty fucking epic final Jedi Knight game, so that one.

>>88037583
What's this from?

>>88038489
Any of the ones that would let me play as a rogue Jedi. I'd be interested in a Darth Maul game, but I'm not familiar with his lore outside of Lockdown and TCW.

>>88038429
>That's not how this works anon. Hux didn't step foot on Jakku and still took responsibility for Finn helping BB8.
Anon, Hux was LEADING the entire mission. He took responsibility because he was in charge of it. If that officer wasn't in charge but was just some low level flunky sent in because everyone knows (again the thread covered this with the stormtroopers) how Kylo Ren reacts to bad news.

Hell, now you've just invited contrasts to how Hux dealt with failure to Snoke as opposed to Kylo Ren whining about how the girl is Force Sensitive and how he deserves a second try against her.

Sure other characters get mocked. Anakin, sure, but nobody was crowing about his performance. At most critics said he'd improved since AOTCs. Luke being whiny is true, but he's still a farm boy and not Sith-Lite (half the calories, same dark side taste!) and Obi-Wan's faulty memory is mostly from how the OT connects with much later material, like him knowing Artoo and Threepio. None of this helps Kylo Ren at all. If the core of Luke in ANH is that he's inexperienced and even whiny, the core of Kylo Ren is he's an emotional wreck with zero impulse control and prone to destroying the scenery when he doesn't get his way, and I DON'T mean by his stunning acting skills.

>>88038489
Rebel Agent sounds but honestly I'm tired of Jedi shit. I just want to fly a starfighter.

>>88038489
Is Jedi Hunter about Grinky and his compadres hunting down Jedi? Because that sounds pretty appealing.

I'm curious how accurate Galen's assessment of Kyber crystals is, especially in terms of them having a will of their own. He's obviously stuck with mostly mythological accounts of them since he isn't given access to any Jedi holocrons (he does have some datacrons, however). It's interesting. While he's trying to separate the mysticism from the facts it's also possible that his own feelings around them may be part real and part imagining. At the very least we've never seen Kybers able to exert their own wills. You can kill a Jedi with their own lightsaber and Sith sabers can be used by Jedi without the blade becoming treacherous or unreliable. It's not even just a matter of people with the Force being able to exert control over them since we've seen some non-Force users like Grievous and Pre Vizsla doing just fine.

I wonder, then, if maybe it has to do with the strength of the user's will? Maybe the Kybers can act a bit like the mind trick but people like Grievous and Pre are too strong willed to be subconsciously swayed?

>>88038489

Smuggler, dunno what it'd be but sounds scruffy looking and comfy.

>>88038863
No, it's about Vos trying to hunt down the path to being just trust me-worthy again so he doesn't have his parole officer Obi-Wan hanging over him all the time stealing his weed.

>>88038489
Underworld, it would be the perfect media to use all that Underworld series that Lucas wanted to make

>>88038677
I agree. Therefore, Rogue Jedi, and Dark Jedi both sound pretty good to me. The idea of playing as a Jedi who is more gray and falls somewhere between the Jedi and Sith sounds pretty appealing.


I suppose Rebel Jedi and Jedi Rebel could also fall under that banner (assuming that it's the Jedi that you're rebelling against) but most likely it would be a Rebel who also happens to be a Jedi.

I'd throw Jedi Hunter in there as well, but you might not necessarily be a Jedi in that case. You could be a bounty hunter or a cyborg (or both) for all we know.

Darth Maul and Vader also seem like they could be fun. Especially if the game makes you feel really powerful, and forces you to fight against other really powerful foes. It would suck if most of the time you wer e just cutting down stormtroopers or battle droids. But in general I think the idea of playing as one of the franchise's main villains sounds fun..

>>88034655

My nigger.

I fucking feel the same exact way.

Can't explain it...but the merchandising for the prequels got me pumped for each movie like it was Christmas too.

>>88039058
Shame that Darth Maul game got fucked into oblivion.
>they're friends!

>>88034721

Has anyone ever been more wrong?

>>88038691
>just some low level flunky sent in because everyone knows (again the thread covered this with the stormtroopers) how Kylo Ren reacts to bad news.
He was obviously someone in charge of the troopers down there. If Hux personally monitored the recovery operation down in Jakku, why does he not tell Ren? It's clear the scared guy was in charge at the time which is why he reported to him. Again, it's like how Needa had to report to Vader personally.

>nobody was crowing about his performance
>At most critics said he'd improved since AOTCs
Dude, Hayden won a razzie for worst supporting actor. Critics hated Anakin in AOTC. Probably more than Jake Lloyd's Anakin.

>the core of Kylo Ren is he's an emotional wreck with zero impulse control and prone to destroying the scenery
Which is why he gets praised. People like the unpredictability of his character. Driver's fantastic performance makes it even better. Makes me wonder if whiny Anakin would have gotten praise if Hayden's acting and dialogue was better.

>>88039101
I feel kind of bad for the team, but at the same time everything we've seen about it tells me we dodged a bullet.

>>88035193
>better than all the OT characters getting comics

Fuck you, nigger.

I want my C-3PO/R2-D2 ongoing badly.

>>88039019
>Each section of the game has Vos hook up with a new different sexy girl
>Each one goes over their trust issues
>Inevitably falls to the dark side and betrays them
>Rinse and repeat for 18 goddamn hours

Instead of a style-meter, you get rewarded by how many times Obi-Wan facepalms your actions.

>>88038489
Whichever ones let me fly a ship.

>>88039146
>He was obviously
Considering more than one person in this thread alone has said otherwise I don't think it's obvious at all, no.

Needa, like Hux, was in command of the ship during the operation. So he's like neither Needa or Hux, no. Now THAT should have been obvious to you.

>Dude, Hayden won a razzie for worst supporting actor. Critics hated Anakin in AOTC. Probably more than Jake Lloyd's Anakin.

Calm down, anon. Nobody said he deserved an Oscar or anything. Just that he'd improved somewhat from AOTCs. Unclench your anus.

>Which is why he gets praised.

It's clear you like Kylo Ren, and hey good for you, but he's not been anything near universally praised for his antics. Hell, it's clear how unpredictable he ISN'T. That guy was scared before Kylo Ren first started hacking the wall. Those Stormtroopers know Kylo Ren well enough that they just turned around and noped the fuck out of the scene. The only thing obvious is how much of a fanboy you are about him, but it is also strange how you've clearly misread his character. He has no mystery, menace, and sure as hell isn't unpredictable.

He HAS gotten far more praise on displaying his strength with the Force. Now that would get you some mileage. His ability to stop a blaster bolt and freeze people in place is mostly where I see people cheering him. Certainly not his personality.

>>88039210
Vos collects magic mushroom power ups, the game plays the Popeye spinach theme. Then the scene fads to black and reappears with SEVERAL HOURS LATER superimposed. You can control Vos but occasionally he does the opposite of whatever control you manipulate and occasionally says things like, "Dude, the Force is so HUGE. It connects, like, every living thing in the galaxy, man."

>>88039463
>Considering more than one person in this thread
Most of this thread will say anything to make TFA look bad. Pretty sure he was in charge of the troops down in Jakku and nothing in the movie says otherwise. There's more than one officer that can command stormtroopers, anon.

>Just that he'd improved somewhat from AOTCs.
The point of mentioning the razzie was to show critics didn't think Anakin "improved" in any way. Not even Lloyd recieved such a dishonor although he was nominated but still.

>It's clear you like Kylo Ren
I do.

>Hell, it's clear how unpredictable he ISN'T.
I mean to us, anon. Nobody expected him to throw such a tantrum because in the first minutes of the film, he was generally a calm villain before that tantrum.

>He has no mystery, menace,
What are you talking about? New theories about his history with Luke and Snoke are constantly shat out by the fandom. So many want to know more about him and how he ended up losing his sanity and hating his family.

>>88038677
I'm surprised we're finally getting some of Maul's backstory pre-Naboo! I mean nuCanon, obviously the EU covered that. It's pretty wild how much material he's been getting. Is he really that popular still?

At this point it almost seems more likely Lucasfilm would make Darth Maul: A Star Wars Story than a Boba Fett one.

>>88039955
Just like Maul's hatred, his popularity has not died down. He had THAT much potential to be a amazing movie villain.

>>88039931
>Most of this thread will say anything to make TFA look bad.
Even if that was true, how does it automatically support what you're saying? You can be pretty sure all you want and that's well and good for you, but hardly proof positive and certainly not "obvious."

>The point of mentioning the razzie was to show critics didn't think Anakin "improved"
He can improve and still be shit. You don't get an award for not being as horrible in his earlier Star Wars movie.

>I mean to us
You, maybe. There was a very clear setup there. If you weren't able to figure out what was about to go down just from the music alone, fuck anon, no wonder you're having trouble following this discussion. What wasn't clear is that he'd let the guy live. Then he did, or at least certainly never capitalized on any potential lethal punishment, and in his second freak out they were even less coy about it.

>What are you talking about?
We know he was seduced by Snoke. They flat out tell you. We know from the supplemental material that he earned his name by betraying Luke's Order. Just because we don't know the specifics doesn't make it some great mystery.
There is a huge difference between not having the exact details and mystery. Mystery is a difficulty to understand or explain, but how is there anything like that here? The Kylo Ren we see who freaks out and hacks apart innocent computer terminals seems exactly the kind of guy who would listen to Snoke and turn on Luke because of his massive parental abandonment issues, among other problems.

As for his menace, that was clearly already discussed early on: >>88037534

Kylo Ren isn't supposed to be exactly like Vader. He's supposed to have his menace and threat compromised directly at multiple points in the movie.

>>88039955
That fan film didn't come out that long ago, did it? It's clear people like him, a good design can go a long way.

>>88039955
Maybe if they push him hard enough, mainstream audiences will get wind that he's alive and they could use him in an Old Man Ben anthology.

Oh who am I kidding, that showdown will be relegated to a Rebels episode. I hope they do it justice.

>>88040392
Not to upset the Kylo Ren fan here tonight but yeah I remember an argument a few threads back. Maul didn't have a huge number of lines, true, and didn't even show up much in the film, but damn did he have a memorable screen presence and Duel of the Fates backing up his fight.

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>>88040480
I still love Old Wounds, and it's even more powerful now after TCW.

>>88040462
The Darth Maul one? Came out in March this year. Was the reason I bough Maul: Lockdown. Loved both.

>>88040486
I'm a Kylo Ren fan, but even I'll admit that Darth Maul is cooler, especially with Duel of the Fates backing him up.

>>88036152
>Are you retarded? There's a lot of us that do. That's why we were devastated when 1313 got cancelled.

None of us produce games though. The problem is everyone in a position to make a good Star Wars game is retarded.

>>88038621
>>88038552
TIE Defenders have been canon since '14. Where the hell have you guys been? they were the first things re canonized in Commander along with Rebellion using separatist equipment and a bunch of other EU stuff.

>>88036152
>That's why we were devastated when 1313 got cancelled.
Hell, I wasn't. Lucasarts lost it's touch with the release of Force Unleashed.
>this game is about kicking ASS with the Force
>boring and mediocre GoW clone
>stomps onto lore like Godzilla in Tokyo

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>>88040662
>I'm a Kylo Ren fan, but even I'll admit that Darth Maul is cooler, especially with Duel of the Fates backing him up.

It's because Darth Maul was specifically meant to be a threatening villain. Lucas specifically wanted something terrifying but when he saw the initial concept he actually told them not THAT terrifying.

Kylo Ren, however, is meant to have a more tragic character. Vader wouldn't acquire his until ROTJ since even after he revealed the truth that he was Luke's father it was horrifying. Maul himself later acquired some tragic elements.

>>88041030
>Commander

Only retards and women play mobile games.

>>88041215
And yet it's still better than anything released on console/PC in recent years.

>>88041175
That is to say that Maul's entire character in TPM was just to be cool and menacing, and he never tried to be anything else. Kylo Ren, on the other hand, had to be more than a villain since they needed to compromise his villainy to believe it was possible Han could redeem him. Similarly Vader after ESB fails to use lethal discipline again and when talking with Luke shows clearly how hesitant he is when telling Luke that it is too late for him.

It'lll be interesting to see what they do with Kylo Ren now that they've blown the attempted redemption wad so soon. Will he become a more thorough and complete monster? It's clearly what he wants to happen in his future. We'll have to see what VIII does for him.

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>>88041175
I like how that design was repurposed in canon.

>>88040410
>Even if that was true, how does it automatically support what you're saying?
Then how does saying most of this thread agrees with you support your own argument?
>He can improve and still be shit.
Ok fine, I'll just say it at simply as I can. Critics thought Anakin got worse. He did not improve. Hell, I don't believe Lloyd's Anakin was bad to begin with, even though critics do I guess.
>There was a very clear setup there.
To you maybe, but most of the audience did not expect Ren to act this way. Before the movie, many thought he was going to be exactly like Vader since a third fucking DS was confirmed. It's easy to say "oh well that was predictable" after watching the movie, anon.
>Just because we don't know the specifics doesn't make it some great mystery.
Vader was considered a mystery of a man even though we already knew his background in ANH alone. Just another attempt by you to say, "oh well I totally expected that".
>seems exactly the kind of guy who would listen to Snoke and turn on Luke because of his massive parental abandonment
Don't be stupid. Here in SW, before being the calm, cool, and mostly in control villain that he was, Vader was a big crybaby during his Jedi times. He was still a good friend, I guess you have that.
>He's supposed to have his menace and threat compromised directly at multiple points in the movie.
But he is menacing. Which is why officers and troopers all around him get scared of his violent nature. Fucking Rey the Mary Sue was afraid of him.

>>88040486
I'm a Ren fan, why would you expect us to hate the idea of Maul being memorable?

Will/should we ever learn Maul's name before he was christened Darth Maul?

>>88041652
Not him, but I have seen a lot of "hurr, Ren is how you make a real villain, Maul just dies and has no character, hurr"

>>88041719
Well, Maul isn't a character. He's cool but certainly not a person to describe. You can't deny Maul certainly would have benefited if he said some more stuff and didn't die.

>>88041652
There was a fairly heavy fight awhile back (mentioned in that post) where someone was really upset that anyone would see Maul as a superior villain to Kylo Ren.

Maul's entire character as per TPM is just his screen presence as a villain, aided heavily by the musical score. Ren's situation is deliberately more complex, and how well he's served as a villain or tragic dupe (by which I mean they've reiterated that when Han told him that Snoke was just using him and would discard/destroy him Kylo Ren was fully aware of this but remained Snoke's boy) has been very much open to interpretation.

>>88041719
>Maul just dies and has no character

He doesn't, beyond some intense stares and his light-saber. All his character comes from the supplementary material.

>>88041719
>Maul just dies and has no character, hurr

For all intents and purposes, if you only watch the movies, that literally is exactly what Maul is.

>>88041784
He doesn't die. He is still, in fact, alive.

>>88041832
>>88041860

In the movie, he is an imposing, threatening force, a representative of the Sith, an example of the violence and danger they bring.

In TCW we get to see him develop as a character, one of our best villains in the entire franchise in fact.

It doesn't matter if you only watch the movies, he still is a fleshed out character.

>>88041719
I thought Maul was always there to look menacing and be threatening. Which I believe he achieved perfectly. Although, Maul never really feels like the real villain. To me, that will always be Palatine, but Maul always felt like "the villain's apprentice." And Dooku felt like he was never really an apprentice, rather just working with Palpatine under a common goal.

>>88041551
>Then how does saying most of this thread agrees with you support your own argument?
Nobody said most. That wasn't the point. Stop exaggerating.

>Ok fine, I'll just say it at simply as I can.
No you can't. Mostly because this entire thing is a distraction from whatever point you're trying to make about Kylo Ren. If you want to talk about the actors, that's fine, but pointing out how they were liked or hated doesn't mean their characters worked as you seem to think they worked. Driver can be a fine actor and Kylo Ren can still be a goofy mess on screen. In fact given he's a decent actor this probably indicates that the goofy mess was intentional.

>To you maybe, but most of the audience did not expect Ren to act this way.
You think they didn't expect the clear Darth Vader look-alike to act like Darth Vader? Seems far fetched. Considering earlier you were saying Kylo Ren could have eventually killed that guy off camera how are you exactly proving he's not acting like Darth Vader with your argument?

As for his unpredictability, if you're talking about someone who is an unknown quantity (which he was even though we knew the archetypal role he was filling) it quickly became clear in the movie just how predictable he was, especially once we saw how the troopers reacted to him.

>Vader was considered a mystery of a man even though we already knew his background in ANH alone.

Vader as Obi-Wan described him wasn't exactly mysterious. The corrupted and fallen pupil isn't exactly a brand new trope Lucas invented (he actually tended to borrow common tropes on purpose). You didn't really need to know Vader's background because it was clear he was a monster. We are presented with no compelling mysteries when Obi-Wan describes him as a betrayer and a murderer of Luke's father in ANH. The mystery comes later when we find out Vader himself is actually Anakin since we don't even get an explanation from Obi-Wan on why he lied until ROTJ.

>>88041551
>Don't be stupid.
You're confusing yourself, anon. Vader was introduced to us before Anakin Skywalker was and they are treated as very different characters even to this day long after we know they are the same man. This is heavily contrasted to Kylo Ren whining that Ben was weak so he killed him when the movie has been actively working against Kylo Ren as a full villain.

>But he is menacing.
He's a manbaby with a laser sword prone to destructive temper tantrums. You're clearly confusing dangerous with being a menacing character (see the ongoing Maul discussion for a clue). There is more of Dennis the Menace to Kylo Ren then there is even Phantom Menace.

>>88041150
You do realize bad SW games existed before TFU, right?

>>88042237
>He was weak and foolish like his father, so I destroyed him.
Well thanks for reminding me this cringy ass quote existed.

>>88042360
I hate to say it but it perfectly fit my feelings about the character by that point in the movie. Nevertheless I'm waiting to see what they do with him for Episode VIII after they finally decide to complete his training.

The line about Snoke seducing their son is still, in my opinion, the worst in the movie.It just sounds ridiculous and spoils the emotional moment they're trying to have. Rather like Obi-Wan's pain and anguish being compromised by the word "youngling". Suddenly it was more laugh worthy than tragic.

>>88041215
>adds a multitude of EU content like TIE Defenders, Hwk Freighters, and Rebel Alliance using Sepertist and Republic equipment
>actually adds insight to the Rebel's operation on the outer rim worlds
>dozens of EU characters
It's a mobile game but it's not terrible. The Clash of Clones thing was only in 2014. It's really it's own game now.

>>88042452
Those rancors are a nightmare...

>>88042452
>Sure, it may have had a rocky start, but has /v/ checked TOR after the latest update?

>It's really coming into it's own.

>>88042486
More so than in Galaxy of Heroes?

Actually, did they ever fix the guild events or is it still just varying degrees of rancor rape? I wish they'd had more variety. I don't know if this necessarily fits their level of danger, but from sizes to making people fight a nexu, then a reek, then an acklay, and finally a rancor.

>>88042586
What the hell are you talking about? TOR?

>>88042486
>rage racnors

>>88042650
>being this new

>>88042591
GoH has it worse. At least in Commander you can still win if you keep your HQ intact for the full duration. Can't say any more on GoH, though; I stopped playing around the time the Shoretrooper tournament ended. But it looks like they added a raid fight against an AAT

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posting best fighter
>tough
>reliable
>has a turret
>kills capital ships

>>88042128
>Nobody said most.
"Considering more than one person in this thread alone has said otherwise". He might as well has said most. The point here is that you brought up the opinions of others before I did.

>No you can't. Mostly because this entire thing is a distraction
A distraction you yourself brought up when you mentioned critics and how they thought Anakin "improved" in some poor attempt to make him seem better. Just drop it, anon.

>how are you exactly proving he's not acting like Darth Vader with your argument?
My original argument is that Ren isn't like how this comic here >>88035646 portrays him because he does the same actions as Vader. The thing that makes him different is his behavior.

>it quickly became clear in the movie just how predictable he was
Well no shit, Sherlock. After the first tantrum which nobody expected, we finally got a clear view of how his character was really like. Especially after seeing how really insecure he was after speaking to Vader's mask.

>You didn't really need to know Vader's background because it was clear he was a monster.
But people still wanted to know more about him and considered him a mystery anyways. What part of that do you not understand? You can say Vader is no mystery but the general audience thought otherwise.

>You're confusing yourself, anon.
No, you're saying you expected Ren to be like this since the beginning at a time after the prequels have been released and after we got a glimpse of how Vader was like before he became Vader.

>the movie has been actively working against Kylo Ren as a full villain.
That's the point you idiot. Even though he's a good villain, the thing about Ren is that he isn't a fully developed, fully turned villain yet. He has his massive flaws that make him interesting.

>>88042237
>He's a manbaby with a laser sword prone to destructive temper tantrums.
And the movie clearly shows officers being afraid of him. He's still a threatening villain despite his destructive tantrums. It's not hard to believe a villain with these tantrums is getting much praise from even those who didn't think the film was as good as they. Many people in this thread think Anakin is a good character even though he himself is a manbaby for not getting what he wants and having endless amounts of cringeworthy dialogue like "it's not fair!".

>>88042879
I have a love/hate relationship with this thing. Too slow and sluggish for my tastes, but I wrecked so much shit with this thing in Rogue Squadron.

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>>88043187
slow and steady wins the race
also it isnt supposed to be slow, not originally anyway, rouge squadron typecast it as slow bomber, when that was the B-wings job

>>88042237
Manbaby or not, at the end of the day, Ren is universally considered a "better Anakin" and for good reason. He displays the conflicted character far better than anything Lucas could attempt and most of the complaints I hear just come off as nitpicky for the sake of attempting to dethrone Mr. Plinkett.
>>88042879
Fuck, I miss how the Y-Wing was before the EU nerfed it.

>>88043242
>B-Wing was the slow one

Shit, you learn something new every day...

>>88043284
in FFG tabletops, B-wings are the slowest fighter you can ever get, so there is more basis for them being super slow

>>88043242
Wasn't the Falcon considered faster than all of them?

>>88043029
>He might as well has said most.
Not really because those aren't the same thing.

>the opinions of others before I did.
This whole thing is about opinions. Did you not realize that from the start? And if we're talking about bringing up the opinions of others this handily ties in with you claiming someone else brought up critics as a distraction. That was actually this post that did both >>88038057

>Well no shit, Sherlock.
Well it's nice to see you're finally accepting that his supposed unpredictability, which you said is what people were praising him for ( >>88038057
) was undermined within that very same movie when it is made clear he's anything but unpredictable.

>That's the point you idiot.
Yes, the point that was made against your claims that he was an effectively menacing villain. But hey, if you're now feeling like switching sides by all means claim it was your point this entire time.

>>88042879
>has a turret
Do people realize this not a positive trait? Turrets are added to craft because they can't properly defend themselves.

>>88043342
the most common fan interpretation is that the millennium falcon has the best hyperspace, but not necessarily the best sublight speed, especially in episode IV where TIE fighters run circles around it

>>88043250
That seems more a matter of the actors. There's nothing hard to follow about why Anakin is conflicted, just buying how easily he turned. Matt Lanter's Anakin in TCWs is far easier to see as becoming Vader because by the end it seems like he's barely hanging on against the anger, frustration, and even hatred building up inside him. Not entirely fair, of course, since TCWs had much more time to flesh out Anakin's character.

>>88043423
But the Falcon outruns the TIE interceptor

>>88043413
triple ion turret Y-wings are devastating against large ships while Twin laser turrer Y-wing devastate everything other than swarms
/tg/ aside, the turret on the Y-wing is very accurate, capable of hitting their mark just as easily as normal aiming
also the A4 modification locks the turret forward, giving you 4 guns forward like an X-wing, so its nice to know you have a choice

>>88043413
Even if the turret is an ion turret?

>>88043518
the interceptor couldnt overtake the millenium falcon, since the second death stars interior is too cramped

>>88043580
Too much wind shear in space and flying against plot armor?

>>88043543
>>88043544
Please see US Army's WW2 B-series. Which is what the Y-Wing were based off. They got annihilated by TIE fighters even with escort. You would never send a bomber solo into enemy territory. X-Wing and A-Wings are escort craft

>>88043346
>Not really because those aren't the same thing.
Then why mention these people to begin with? It doesn't prove anything.

>That was actually this post that did both >>88038057 #
This post merely brought up the opinions of the audience not critics. This post brought up critics >>88038691

>Well it's nice to see you're finally accepting that his supposed unpredictability, which you said is what people were praising him for ( >>88038057 (You) #
) was undermined within that very same movie when it is made clear he's anything but unpredictable.
It's only natural because it was revealed in that very same movie. Nobody predicted he would have tantrums. Now we do, but they're still a joy to watch.

>Yes, the point that was made against your claims that he was an effectively menacing villain
You're confused. The point was that he wasn't a fully developed villain. That doesn't mean he isn't menacing.

>>88043323
>tabletop games
FUCK! Then Pablo will automatically side with them! You South Ameican Canadian coffee addicted canyon lover!

>>88043484
>Matt Lanter's Anakin in TCWs is far easier to see as becoming Vader
Careful, anon. There are people that genuinely think Hayden is the better Anakin.

>>88043641
the Y-wing is a fighter-bomber, in armada it loses every fight solo (unless you are dutch vander), while in X-wing TTG, it loses a straight up joust, but can win by flying defensively
and in EPVI one of them shot down an interceptor

>>88043484
Matt Lanter's Anakin leads into RotS Hayden's Anakin.

>>88043669
>This post merely brought up the opinions of the audience not critics.
That post made it audiences AND critics. It didn't distinguish, unless you somehow don't think critics are people? And why would it matter if it was critics or audiences anyway? You also ignore that it points out who dared bring in other opinions, as if that was a bad thing either.

>It's only natural because it was revealed in that very same movie.
Who said anything about whether it was natural and why would that make a difference?

>Nobody predicted he would have tantrums.
Whether they predicted it or not doesn't matter when the point was how it undermined his character as a menacing villain.

>Now we do, but they're still a joy to watch.
Okay so now it's more about his entertainment quality than about menace? Menace isn't often a source of joy but trepidation or suspense.

>You're confused.
Anon, you've gone from moving the goal posts to tying them up in pretzels and kicking them haphazardly around the field instead of the actual ball, i.e. the original topic.

>>88043723
What is the real world inspiration for the Y-Wing? I believe the X-Wing is based off the P-51(also reminds me of the F-15). Is the Y-Wing the P-47(F-14)?

>>88043745
Timewise sure, because TCWs stops at ROTS which remains just as canon as it ever was. I wouldn't say that Lanter's portrayal is anywhere near what we got from Hayden.

>>88043715
He has his fans, sure. Back in the old days of TCW generals we used to talk about whether it would be better to imagine Lanter dubbing over Anakin's lines. Same dialogue, still Hayden on screen, just a different actor giving us the "voice" of the character. Literally and the tone and emotional depth.

>>88043825
cant find documents pertaining to the Y-wing, but the X-wing is supposed to be a spitfire

>>88043715
Honestly, who the fuck cares what people like? You're talking about a franchise with talking dogs and teddy bears ffs

>>88043891
>I wouldn't say that Lanter's portrayal is anywhere near what we got from Hayden.
It leads into Hayden's portrayal. The way the council treated Ahsoka is a major reason for Anakin's continued disillusionment with them.

>>88043928
>talking dogs

Ahsoka?

>>88043817
This whole mess started because someone was triggered by a damn two panel comic. A damn joke.

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>>88043955
That's no dogs, anon.

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>>88043955
Goddamn it

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>>88035580

Natalie Portman was the best actor in any Star Wars film anyway so this whole argument is pointless

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>>88035580
.

>>88043825
>X-Wing is based off the P-51
If so, that makes for ultimate pottery if Filoni gets the chance to include them in Rebels. He's said that if he includes them he wants it to be like the "Cadillac of the Skies" scene from Empire of the Sun

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-rebels-x-wings/

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>>88035580
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>>88043817
>That post made it audiences AND critics.
It's only audiences anon. The other post specifically brought up critics as a way of proving that bogus statement about Anakin "improving".

>Whether they predicted it or not doesn't matter when the point was how it undermined his character as a menacing villain.
But he is menacing. He's just not a fully developed villain yet because he's supposedly still conflicted.

>Menace isn't often a source of joy
People also enjoyed Vader and Maul. What are you on about?

>Anon, you've gone from moving the goal posts
Anon, the original argument was that Ren threatens his officers like Vader. Yet you or some other anon are trying to say the way Ren does it is wrong because of some nitpicky reason. If anyone is moving goalposts, it's the both of you.

>>88044018
>>88044063
>>88044094
She didn't die, though. Also, I just noticed Gillen totally ripped off TFU.

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>>88043825
>What is the real world inspiration for the Y-Wing?

>>88043972
Could you honestly say he was triggered? He only posted a gif and some guy responded with his ramblings.

>>88044094
>It really could've gone the other way.
>It really could have, couldn't it?
>No. But why speak ill of the dead?

>>88044101

When Anakin went sith, he dropped a lot of the mannerisms that Kylo Ren seems to have carried over into his sith conversion. Kylo Ren reminds people of pre-sith Anakin, the version some people did not like.

Less menacing and more whiny, slapping equipment like a petulant child.

Since we're talking about fighters, how are X-Wings realistically(in-universe) suppose to take on Star Destroyers? They were designed to be powerful strike fighters but Star Destroyers are very well defended and have a massive compliment of TIE's.

>>88044094
So did Vader know he was being played? I wonder. The Force can sense deception (most of the time and when not dealing with someone trained in the Force who can cloud or mask themselves) let alone sense whether her story ends here or whether there is some presence ready to rescue her. Probably not the latter since they used remote piloting and machines typically leave less of an impression on the Force (for instance when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan reacted to the destruction of their vessel at the beginning of TPM I think that was more based on sensing the emotions of the crew).

I mean is it actually POSSIBLE that Vader let Aphra live? That he just used the airlock so there would be an official record and nothing for the Emperor to question regrading what became of her?

>>88044181

if you notice most of the small fighters got wiped out going against turbo lasers. Majority of their kills were when rebel fighters slam into ships.

If Emperor had survived, Rebellion would have been dead right there.

>>88044162
I honestly don't see how Ren is whiny. He never says anything as cringeworthy as "it's not fair" or "I want more but I know I shouldn't". He was just some guy that got pissed when his men didn't get things done. There's a difference between whiny and frustrated.

>>88044195

It does make the most sense.

>>88044260

Well he was a terrible version as NotJacen and a better emo version of pre-sith Anakin for myself but also to not confused you, I am a third person that only posted these two responses, the other two people you were talking with probably disagree with me but that is my take on why people don't like Kylo Ren

and honestly Jacen in the books had this problem too when he went darkside. All of these 'iterations' are just shadow play on what Anakin already was. They're just not done well.

you could cut most of Kylo Ren's dialogue and just have him be in scenes, and act and most of the complaints against him would disappear.

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>>88044305
That lightsaber really fucking grew on me. I thought I'd hate the bloody thing but I like it the more I see it.

>>88044305
Can't tell if this is before or after the Fandango servers got borked

>>88044101
>proving that bogus statement about Anakin "improving"

Anakin clearly improved. His powers had doubled after all. Did you mean Hayden? Even then you'd have to prove that, but why bother? That was never the point. The point was you getting ass-blasted by a comic because it dared criticize your husbando.

>People also enjoyed Vader and Maul. What are you on about?
You can appreciate a villain. You can be pleased by a performance. If you clap with giddy joy as he runs around murdering people, though, you might have a serious psychological issue.

>Anon, the original argument was that Ren threatens his officers like Vader.
No. Yet again the original "argument" was a simple comic that upset you. You tried to portray Kylo Ren as having just as much menace to himself as Vader, which he didn't and never did. You've recently posted above that you agree his menace as a villain was intentionally compromised.

>If anyone is moving goalposts, it's the both of you.
You didn't just move the goalposts, you tried to take over the other side of the argument and claim it was your own all along.

>>88044260
>He never says anything as cringeworthy as "it's not fair" or "I want more but I know I shouldn't".
None of those lines came off "cringe worthy". Especially, "I want more". Anakin was destined to be the chosen one but was stuck a starter.

>He was just some guy that got pissed when his men didn't get things done
No, Kylo needed to understand things don't happen instantly on a battlefield. It was incredibly immature for him to slash at expensive computer equipment and choke his subordinate for virtually no reason. Instead of fully listening to his officer he had a tantrum and got mad when he finished telling him Rey was involved. Because he interrupted his officer.

>>88044422

I still hate it and I was aware/around when some bitched about maul's double saber which I always thought was kind of awesome but then again I was a fan of Jedi Academy and Knight Doublesaber in that game is a beast.

>>88044277
It does make a lot of sense, but even then I can only imagine he'd let her live if he thinks she'd be useful later. It's way WAY too early for Vader to show anything approaching mercy.

I guess at this point I wouldn't be surprised if one of Aphra's issues ends with Vader suddenly showing up in the last page showing he knew she was alive the whole time.

>>88044422
It was one of the best parts of the movie. Despite the shitstorm and memeing about how it works, I always thought it looked pretty great and threatening.

>>88044260
He certainly seemed whiny after he freaked out with Rey resisting his interrogation. He ran all the way to Daddy Snoke. Then we saw how he reacted to Rey being missing.

Hardly whiny, but certainly nothing that did him any favors in terms of his cool factor.

>>88044523
And now it is dead. Or who knows, maybe he'll show up wit it in VIII looking even more horribly cobbled together. Maybe even some duct tape!

>>88044630
>Maybe even some duct tape!

They'll use all the duct tape to put Phasma's armor back together so that she can be captured and useless once again.

>>88044154
Was there a party in that mess that wasn't rambling?

>>88044471

well between episode 2 and 3, he solo'd dooku. considering how many times he got his ass handed to him by dooku, that's definitely an increase in skill considering even obi got crushed by a walkway. obiwan even jokes about it and Palpatine trying to save Anakin some future pain by having him leave him behind to die.

>>88044471
>Anakin clearly improved. His powers had doubled after all.
I thought this was about Anakin's character, not his powers. Why would mention critics if this was about his powers? Everyone knows his powers have doubled but he changed into an unlikeable character compared to his TPM portrayal.

>If you clap with giddy joy as he runs around murdering people
When I said I enjoyed Ren, do you honestly think I meant I was clapping with joy at his tantrums? You can't be this dense.

>No. Yet again the original "argument" was a simple comic that upset you.
I did not post that gif but it proved that Ren could frighten his officers like Vader.

>You tried to portray Kylo Ren as having just as much menace to himself as Vader, which he didn't and never did.
But he is menacing. That's why the movie shows how frightend stormies and officers are of him.

>You've recently posted above that you agree his menace as a villain was intentionally compromised.
Yeah you're obviously confused. Only thing I agreed with was that he wasn't a fully developed villain yet. Why must I repeat this?

>You didn't just move the goalposts
No, you and the other anon did by saying "oh well Ren is doing it wrong".

>>88044606
Contradiction. Seemed whiny, not whiny.

Is Kylo shouting about "Untrained but definitely stronger than she knows" after Snoke berates him whiny? I guess it might seem that way, at least a tiny bit?

Jesus, that kid has daddy issues that goes straight into his relationship with Snoke, doesn't it?

>>88034276
When's the next Rebels episode?

>>88044422
Still mixed on it, I don't have any problem with the idea of a cross-guard, but I just wish it didn't have 3 emitters.

Then again, if we go by Stephen Colbert's theory that they're not emitters but more like splitters or funnels, that would pretty much solve all my problems with it.

Granted, I still think it LOOKS cool. They made it look far better in-motion.

>>88044764
You know how Star Wars explicitly tries to incorporate as much Joseph Campell into it's narrative as possible? Kylo had no chance not to have at best a Freudian relationship with parental authority.

>>88044792

I think most people like the traditional look of the saber instead of turning it into a real sword when a lightsaber beam can light shit on fire so it seems dumb to put yourself in that kind of danger when someone posted that edit where the vents are like a v, aiming away from the hand.

Having a traditional crossguard look with a lightsaber still looks dumb when you think about it.

>>88044773
Isn't it usually Friday-Saturday?

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>>88044872
>traditional crossguard look with a lightsaber still looks dumb when you think about it.

I'm not really into Star Wars for things that look smart.

>>88044497
>None of those lines came off "cringe worthy". Especially, "I want more".
They were extremely cringeworthy. I took the tantrums more seriously then Anakin's legitimate whining. I took Vader's own ROTS tantrum more seriously.
>>88044606
I think it all comes down to that final duel. If Ren hadn't lost, he truly would have been a delusional villain with deadly power, but now people think he's whiny when he really isn't. At least not as much as Anakin.

>>88044948

It became such a hub bub that nightly news geeks got in on it

enough people disliked it because they thought "but wouldn't that light you on fire or cut your shit off too?"

>>88044872
>Still looks dumb

I kind of disagree, it may look nonsensical or impractical, but I don't think it's necessarily dumb

Even though ultimately I like the design, I can't really recall it being useful in any of his fights.

>>88044761
>I thought this was about Anakin's character, not his powers. Why would mention critics if this was about his powers?
Indeed. So why did you? Or did you mean his hair improved?

>When I said I enjoyed Ren, do you honestly think I meant I was clapping with joy at his tantrums?
You didn't say you enjoyed it. You said it was a joy. That's why the specific word "joy" was said again.

>I did not post that gif but it proved that Ren could frighten his officers like Vader.
Who said Ren wasn't scary? Nobody said he wasn't scary. A nuclear bomb is scary. Ebola is scary. The rancor can be scary. Kylo Ren is scary? Sure. Doesn't mean he's anything near as scary as Vader, and certainly not for the same reasons. That gif actually undermines that point of Kylo Ren entirely. If he wanted to intimidate that officer he should have opened with the Force grip. Instead he starts screaming and destroying First Order property, not only childish but wasteful and ultimately pointless.

He's scary in the same way an angry child waving a gun around is scary.

>But he is menacing.
You can keep repeating your opinion as much as you want, and you're certainly entitled to an opinion. Doesn't make your opinion fact.

I also don't think those Stormtroopers were frightened at all. They just casually walk away, they didn't run. Nothing in their body language displayed fear. It certainly suggested something on the order of, "There he goes again."

>Yeah you're obviously confused. Only thing I agreed with was that he wasn't a fully developed villain yet. Why must I repeat this?
Why bother to repeat it? Why feel you needed to? Being a non-fully developed character doesn't make him a menace or a realized villain or anything. Not to mention while he is undeveloped in certain regards, he's very clearly developed in all the points that matter to the discussion which is that his villain and menace are compromised, and intentionally by JJ.

>>88044939
Yeah. Saturday night is when it usually airs, but it usually gets uploaded to the interwebs in the graveyard hours beforehand

>>88044951

not to mention he can never be taken seriously as a villain.

The original used the dog fighter sequence as a cop out.


they used the actual first duel, it was just dumb. The one time they didn't do a direct copy of ANH and it was for the worst. That was what made ESB so powerful.

>>88044951
I was thinking along the same lines with Ren earlier in the thread! If he'd just ended with killing Han and failing to capture Rey it would have been closer to Vader and Luke on the Bespin bridge and him failing to capture Luke at the end.

I think, however, that they just wanted to get in that saber fight. Which I suspect may have caused more problems than it solved since her winning that fight was a huge rallying cry against her character and claiming she was/is a Mary Sue.

God I hope I don't start anything by saying that. Last thing this thread needs is a Mary Sue Rey argument.

>>88044951
> I took the tantrums more seriously then Anakin's legitimate whining
But Anakin wasn't whining. Were you paying attention to the character? Did you miss out he was deliberately being held back? Even Padme is sympathetic for Anakin. Kylo was designed to be immature, pathetic and unstable. Anakin was a slave kid that never got a chance in life. Even as a Jedi.

>>88045051
To be fair I think people would have been pissed if Rey had beaten Kylo Ren in a dogfight. Not that I think that's what you were suggesting, but at that point and even when we don't know how Kylo Ren is behind the controls of a starfighter her beating him would still have caused people to claim she was overpowered as shit.

Hm. I wonder how Kylo Ren is with a starfighter. Anakin genes AND Solo genes behind the controls? Does it make sense he'd want to be a starfighter pilot too to be more like his grandfather or would he avoid piloting because he hates his dad so much?

>>88045133
I see what you're saying but I personally disagree with it. From the Council's point of view Anakin was kept from the title of Master for the same reason that he demonstrated when he started complaining about it right to their faces.

It isn't power or even accomplishment that makes you worthy to be a master, it's an inner quality of character. They could sense the fear and anger within Anakin and surely knew he was having trouble controlling it. Mace might have felt justified with less evidence, but I think members like Yoda, who were far more understanding, was just disappointed.

>>88045197

Well to be honest her beating him in a starfighter would have been better than a duel since she is NotJaina and Jaina was second only to her dad in piloting.

Jacen was garbo as a starfighter pilot, his big fleet contributions was using battle meditation to beat the shit out of entire enemy fleets.

He was a mid-tier lightsaber duelist too, his big abilities were all force related. He was what OT fanboys clamored for, the force wanderer, seeking out force mysteries and abilities and exploring exotic places on his five year journey of self discovery.

So that would still work better since they could have used a force mentor like luke had use it to riff off of or use han as an inspiration or something, literature using narrative rhyming works for a reason. if you're going to steal at least use it well.

>>88045033
>Indeed. So why did you? Or did you mean his hair improved?
I'm not that anon. I said his character got worse and when he mentioned critics, I proved that wrong. The razzie Hayden won pretty much proves this.

>You didn't say you enjoyed it. You said it was a joy. That's why the specific word "joy" was said again.
Don't be retarded, anon.

>Who said Ren wasn't scary?
Now you really are moving goalpoasts.

>Instead he starts screaming and destroying First Order property
I don't see how that undermines his scare factor because the officer still looked frightened as he was breaking shit. People get scared when a movie monster roars and breaks shit out of rage.

>Doesn't make your opinion fact.
Guess I'll just say the same for you.

>It certainly suggested something on the order of, "There he goes again."
Well to me it certainly didn't. It came off as something like "shit let's go somewhere else".

>Why bother to repeat it? Why feel you needed to?
Then why keep repeating I agreed with you when I didn't?

>>88045197
in X-wing TTG, Rey is pilot skill 8, which is very good, and is built for old-school dogfighting

Kylo ren is a measly pilot skill 5, but his special ability is freakin insane, causing anyone who hits him to become vulnerable to hits in the future

a dogfight between them will largely be determined by whether or not they can count on wingmen, rey is straight up better at maneuvering and wouyld run circles around Kylos craft, but if kylo can show her the dark side, then kylos wingmen can take rey out

>>88045280

From anakin's point of view, it looks like he is being setup to fail when his life was conscripted into the order for public service. It seems incredibly underhanded and shifty to do it that way even though political pressure was brought to pit anakin against the order to get him that title in the first place and you're right.

inner self did matter more for the old order but even as they said, abilities do count towards what level they think of you as..unfortunately the master level abilities anakin had didn't come from experience. Experience usually accrues wisdom with it.

I just bought TCW seasons 1-5 Collector's edition box
It's pretty great shelf candy
Anyone else got it? I haven't decided if I want the season 6 bluray as well

>>88045133
No he was very whiny. Shouldn't starting out as a slave in life make him more humble and respectful anyways? He should be grateful about his freedome but he comes off as spoiled. I know being a brat is how he was written but it doesn't fit with how he was as a kid. Just makes the Jedi Council's action more justified.

>>88045280
>From the Council's point of view Anakin was kept from the title of Master for the same reason that he demonstrated when he started complaining about it right to their faces.
No.

There are several reasons why the council did not give him the rank of master. First, they did not trust him because they sensed danger. Not because of his behavior but because of their own fears. Make no mistake Anakin had extraordinary skills and powerful for someone so young but they were extremely cautious. They deliberately held him back from achieving his full potential out of fear. Anakin knew this. They expressed their distrust for him.

>It isn't power or even accomplishment that makes you worthy to be a master, it's an inner quality of character.
Given how insecure and arrogant the Jedi had become, they were outright hypocritical.

>They could sense the fear and anger within Anakin and surely knew he was having trouble controlling it.
And instead of reaching out to help him, they rejected him at every turn. Not even Obi-Wan was sensitive to his needs. It took Padme for him to even consider going to Tattoine for his torturous visions of his mother.

>but I think members like Yoda
This is the same Jedi Council that considered assassinating a former Jedi Master and fell back on their principles. They lost their way long before the Clone Wars and their greatest failure was Anakin.

>No he was very whiny. Shouldn't starting out as a slave in life make him more humble and respectful anyways?
He was. I think you're nitpicking.

>but he comes off as spoiled
>I know being a brat is how he was written but it doesn't fit with how he was as a kid
How and when? The Jedi Council treat him like a red headed step child and Qui-Gon's responsibility.