MARVEL VS CAPCOM 4 IS HAPPENING PART 4

Part 1: >>87398848

Part 2: >>87437025

Part 3: >>87462177

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>>87481709
To me games like the VS series and Injustice exist mostly for fanservice. Good balance would be nice but I'll take a huge roster in exchange for a less balanced fighter every time in a game like this.

>>87481762

Uh, yeah. Gambit ain't the Beatles of X-Men

I'm really glad for Capcom if this rumor turns out to be true. The way Ono made it sound like, Capcom had fuck all for cash. Sounds like they had more than he let on and/or their more recent games have made them a ton of money.

Hope this means they have other unannounced titles, like DMC5.

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>>87481762
If we're preserving a 90s relic than I'd prefer Jubilee to Gambit honestly.

>>87481739
Ya, I can understand that. Though I feel that if they had the license for longer, or at least were allowed to do balance changes past that point, they could have fixed those issues. Take a look at USFIV. That game has a big roster, but it's actually fairly well balanced, and it's because Capcom has been able to keep tweaking it over and over, but they didn't have that luxury with UMvC3.

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Bringing this back from the last thread, but not restricting it to newcomers. Make your own full roster. Crop this or expand it to your liking, if you want, too.

>>87481779
Capcom was in a tight spot, but Monster Hunter is practically printing money for Capcom right now. I think it has more to do with priorities, and sad as it is to admit, Street Fighter isn't as high of a priority as MH, which is probably why they needed outside funding to make it happen when it did. I'm sure SFV would still have happened without Sony's money, but it would have been several years away still.

>>87481811
I hope SFV makes money for them in the long run.

But yeah, priorities and all. I hope they start learning from their mistakes and start resembling old Capcom again.

>>87481775
You are wrong, and I will fight you.

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>>87481797
My Not-in-MvC3 wishlist.

Man, I really hope they go back to using Sprites instead of the 3D models we got in 3. Maybe it's something with the style, but I really couldn't stand 3's art.

>>87481895
one problem: sprites are expensive

>>87481895

No. They will not.

>>87481895
They actually did a great job compared to Injustice,

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>>87481949
You're right about that.

MOON
KNIGHT
WHEN

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>>87481961
Hey it's gotten better since the reveal.

>>87481779
At the very least, I'm glad that Capcom's new love for remakes and remasters allows ports to other systems.

Hopefully, we'll get to have modern-day ports of smaller games like Okami, God Hand, and the Phoenix Wright series.

>>87481797
Can't do image editing right now, but let me try.

> Wolverine/Ryu
> Iron Man/Morrigan
> Hulk/Jill Valentine
> Deadpool/Dante
> Captain America/Chun-Li
> Ms. Marvel/Mega Man
> Spider-Man/Strider
> Dr. Doom/Albert Wesker
> Thor/Amaterasu
> Hawkeye/Frank West
> Captain Marvel/Viewtiful Joe
> Magneto/Vergil
> Dr. Strange/Phoenix Wright
> Iron Fist/Gene
> MODOK/Arthur
> Storm/Jin Saotome
> Silk/Rival Schools character
> Ghost Rider/Captain Commando

Problem is that while there are a ton of Capcom properties that need some love, between MvC3 and now, Marvel hasn't made a lot of characters I would think are game-worthy.

>>87481873
Nero would basically be another Dante. Same for Chuck Greene. And how would Silver Surfer even play?

>>87481895
You really want them to use Morrigan's DS1 Sprite AGAIN?

>>87482134
>Nero would basically be another Dante

>pseudo-grappler like Mike Haggar
>could grab opponents from across the screen, like Super-Skrull
>Exceed and MAX-Act system worked into his moveset somehow, essentially giving him E.X. versions of all his moves
>Charge Shot

Anon, don't talk about stuff you don't know about.

And don't you mean that Chuck Greene would just be another Frank West?

>>87482134
Nero plays nothing like Dante in his own game, he'd be plenty different in this, he's got lots to work off of with the Devil Bringer and exceed gauge.
Chuck green could be given an entirely different move set of all combo-weapons.
Admittedly I have no idea what to do with Surfer, but I'd love to see him. Something like a half-way point between Doctor Strange and Nova I guess.

>>87481755
>>Who the fuck knows about Fantastic Four at this point.
The Fantastic Four have never been in any of the Capcom vs. Games. They were never going to be in this one, licencing issues or no.

>>87482229
They would have been in 3, but Capcom couldn't get the Human Torch's flames to work. Marvel has a policy that either all FF members are in a game or none of them are, so they told them to scrap them, offering the Super-Skrull as a substitute.

>>87482134
>Nero would basically be another Dante
What are you on, son?
>Devil Bringer for movement/grabs/crazy resets
>Blue Rose that can be charged up like Zero's Buster with delayed explosions
>Revvin that Red Queen plus EX-Act and MAX-Act mechanics
>unique Devil Trigger
That's like saying Vergil was just another Dante.

Personally, I want to see Gene with numerous command normals at his disposal.
Maybe also Asura, with unique arm-breaking mechanics. He could start the match with two arms and gain more using a super, which would change the properties of his moves or even give him new moves altogether. But if he takes too much damage his arms would break, possibly leaving him in a state where he can only attack with his head and legs.

>>87482242
I for one, am happy with Super Skrull.

>>87481978
It's hinted he'll be in the game.

>>87482242
Remember that the flames issue was an early one, that they fixed, which is why there's no problems with Jean.

>>87481797
From Marvel side
>Captain America
>Thor
>Iron Man
>Hulk
>Scarlet Witch
>Vision
>Black Panther
>Wasp
>Dr. Strange
>Spider-Man
>Doc Ock
>Rocket
>Groot
>Captain Marvel
>Ms. Marvel
>Loki
>Ultron
>Thanos
>Wolverine
>Deadpool
>Storm
>Iceman
>Magneto
>Apocalypse
>Doctor Doom
>Super-Skrull

>>87482265
Probably gonna do the stupid Bendis version. SpiderCapVerine sucks. Something a child would come up with.

I only need Dante and Spidey. I don't care who else is in the game.

>>87482229
I think the property is what was meant, not those 4 specific characters themselves. Some people were under the impression that being lax with the X-Men embargo would also mean being lax on the Fantastic Four embargo, but that might not be the case just because they're both with Fox.

>>87482367
Yeah, I just want to have Doctor Doom in the game.

Story mode begins with Spider-Man doing his nightly patrol when he sees police cars speeding toward the American Museum of Natural History.
The men in blue try to apprehend "some wacko in an ancient Mayan getup" to no avail. Spidey arrives at the scene and Necalli senes him as "The Avatar of The Spider". Spidey makes a quip about Necalli being an Inheritor that slipped under the radar and a fight ensues and this theme play:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isKsPRNHEGQ

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>>87481797
R8/H8

>>87481961
>WAAAH why doesn't everyone look like an emotionless wax doll like in muh animes?

>>87482719
Too many fighting game characters on the Capcom side, based Mayor Man relegated to DLC, not enough true newcomers in general and Chuck instead of Frank.

That being said, Lynn Kurosawa and Ant-Man and Wasp team are big yesses in my book.

>>87482770
Ed Boon pls

>>87482770
Boon go back to fixing MKX pc

>>87481961
That's not a man face.

>>87481755
Can mods just fucking sticky already so we don't have to keep making these threads?

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>>87482770
Well, hey, if shit like this is your thing, then more power to you. I'll stick with the so-called "emotionless wax doll" look, myself, if this is the other alternative.

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>>87483266
To be fair, though, at least Harley looked just fine.

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>>87481797
Tried to make a good match of likely characters and wishlisty characters. Forgot Dante, so he can be in the Ultimate version or something.

>>87481755
Who cares. MvC3 sucked. Street Fighter 5 sucked. You think this wont suck too?

>>87482029
Don't forget Megaman.

What if they take all the characters in mvc3


.........AND DOUBLE THE ROSTER

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>>87481755
Ugh, I'm already cringing at the "diverse" roster they'll force Capcom to put in.

>>87483712
then why did you post here?

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This took entirely too long and probably has too many characters but fuck it I had fun with it.

>>87483875
Cause you guys are being idiots getting excited for yet another let down

>>87483813
They won't. Capcom is lazy nowadays, look at SFV. They release the game unfinished.
MvC4 will have 16 chacters and many more re-release to finally reach UMvC3.

I would only buy an MvC4 if they finally decide to do a stroy mode like Injustice or Mortal Kombat.

>>87483871
>Thinking they'll sacrifice movie synergy to push their SJW nonsense

They can do whatever the fuck they want with comics since nobody really cares but this game will reach a much wider audience. Any core hero will retain their classic look. Though I wouldn't be surprised by alternate costumes like Miles Spidey or Captain Falcon.

>>87483904
you don't know that. Anything can happen.

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>>87481797
Here's mine from the last thread made entirely of newcomers. R8 me /co/

>>87482719
If you're going to make a roster up, why would you add DLC? Its your own fantasy roster, so why even do that?

Anyways, ignoring the fact that the overall roster is smaller than UMvC3, the Capcom side doesn't seem all that balanced. 4 SF character, 4 Darkstalkers, and 4(ish) Final Fight characters, with only 1 Mega Man and 1 RE seems off, along with the fact that a bunch of the smaller franchises seem to have been ignored.

Marvel side covers most of the bases, but the only characters that seem to be even semi-obscure are in the DLC. And while I won't really complain about Tony getting axed out for War Machine, however unlikely that is, I feel that its a missed opportunity to have body Cody and Guy on the Capcom side, but not have Luke Cage and Iron Fist on the Marvel side at the same time.

>>87483924
>Thinking they'll sacrifice movie synergy to push their SJW nonsense

I said the same thing about the comics

>>87483947
"Those who dont learn from History are doomed to repeat it"

If you keep acting like Capcoms bitch, they'll keep treating you like one. Theyll onlyever do what they can get away with. MVC3 was dogshite and yet both it and its rerelease sold well. So what makes you think they'll improve upon a sequel?

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Okay guys, post what stages you want to have.

will star lord be in it?

>>87484022
>why would you add DLC?

It's an inevitability and ignoring that is pointless. Plus some characters make more sense as DLC than as a main roster candidate when they do do DLC. A character who might not make it in to the base game may have a better chance of being added later and if one is trying to be more realistic with their hopes then DLC is definitely a factor. For instance if the game were coming out next year then Thanos or Captain Marvel would make perfect sense as DLC to promote the movies.

>>87484106
Hopefully not.

>>87484118
Its a fan roster though, so its pointless to have it though, nor does it inherently have to be realistic. That list has War Machine in it rather than Iron Man for instance. And UMvC3 had a larger roster than that without its DLC, and Haggar was there in the first MvC3 as a standard character too.

>>87484084
>So what makes you think they'll improve upon a sequel?
Not him, but the fact that 3/Ult 3 was a better game than 2.
It's a very unbalanced fighter but it still manages to be very satisfying both to play and to watch. Sure, once in a while some shitter will show up with a broken team and try to ruin everyone's fun, but that happens in every fighting game.
Also, not sure if you know this but Marvel 3 wasn't actually made by Capcom. Same goes for SFV too.

>>87483871
If by diverse, you mean more russians, then I am fine with that.
>>87479552
Fuck you Slott.

>>87484208
>Also, not sure if you know this but Marvel 3 wasn't actually made by Capcom. Same goes for SFV too.

>This is what Capcomfags actually believe

>>87484208
But it wasn't. The characters were widely un balanced and the single player aspect was now non-existent.

SF5 had even less on launch. Didnt even have a fucking arcade mode.

>>87484238
>What is Eighting
>What is Dimps
>Hurr I only see company names what's a development team

Marvel 2 was made in-house and it was shit.

>>87484265
Compare the viable characters between 2 and 3 . You wouldn't see anyone other than the Four Gods. Maybe a Cable or Cyclops once or twice.
And I'm not defending SF5 in the slightest.

>single player aspect was now non-existent.
Maybe fighting games just aren't for you.

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>>87484089
Some Marvel places that would be good would be the Savage Land, Latveria, an Arena on Sakaar, the Sanctum Santorum, the Dark Dimension (A Ditko-esque version) Knowhere, Wundagore, and the Avengers Mansion. For Capcom I'd like to see that Robot Museum from MM7, Deserted Island from MH3, the village from RE4, pretty much any stage from Cyberbots, Shadaloo Island, a courtroom from Ace Attorney, Fetus of God (or really any Darkstalkers stage. I actually kind of prefer London or Hellstorm from the original, or Tower of Vanity) and the Mall from Dead Rising 1 making a comeback from TvC.

>>87484319
We gotten to the point where theres no excuse for a fighting game to not have content to keep SPers happy.

If they can do it in Mortal Kombat, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Blazblue and Guilty Gear, Capcom have zero excuses

why keep making threads when there's so little info?

>>87484265
don't need to make an arcade mode if the game doesn't have an arcade release. consider the function of arcade mode.

>>87484319
Whats the point of a crossover if you dont even have the enjoyment of seeing them interact in a story?

>>87482719
9/10

>>87484394
What a joyless approach.

>People enjoy playing arcade modes
>YEAH BUT WE DONT *HAVE* TO MAKE ONE THIS TIME, SO LETS NOT BOTHER

What's the point? Even if X-Men or FF-related characters get in, Megaman probably won't and if he is it's the shitty Nu-Megaman from next year.

>>87484089
>SHIELD Helicarrier
>Savage Land (with Devil Dinosaur cameo)
>Sanctum Sanctorum
>Asgard/Bifrost (Heimdall stands watch in the backgroud)
>Wakanda
>Blue Area of the Moon (Watcher peeping at everything)
>Knowhere
>Xavier Mansion
>Danger Room (background shifts constantly, with references to a bunch of X-Men things like DoFP and Apocalypse)
>Castle Doom
>Times Square/Streets of New York

>>87484319
Hey man, if you want just the bare bones good for you. But if capcoms putting out a game with
>No story mode
>No challenge mode
>No arcade mode
Maybe take that dick out of your ass long enough to at least ask for a discounted price for your bare bones game.

>>87484394
>consider the function of arcade mode.

Beat everyone to unlock characters/costumes/other shit.

>>87484379
Arcade mode and online mode are the only ones you need. Remember, fighting games are intended for a very specific group of people. You shouldn't expect to be pandered to if you don't belong in that group.
Also please don't use MK or SC to defend single player content in fightans.

>>87484399
It's a traditional competitive fighter, not an RPG. Project X Zone did what you're saying and its story mode was terrible. And this is coming from someone who really likes that game and its sequel.

>>87484420
What's joyless about it? When you're commissioned to develop a fighting game for a non-arcade release there is no incentive to include an arcade mode. arcade mode in fighting game exists as a time filler until someone comes up and challenges you. Yes, Guilty Gear Xrd has significant single player content, but that was for the home console release, not the arcade release which came out eight months earlier. NRS games have loads of single player content, but they have a golden goose of a publisher and shouldn't be considered the "standard" that every fighting game should meet.

>>87484492
That's SFV though, not Marvel. And I didn't buy it because the characters and gameplay mechanics didn't interest me and also the reasons you stated.
I'm not defending SFV, I'm defending Marvel 3.

>>87484524
You forget that that "specific group of people" is still a niche.

Not to mention when all of your competition is doing what you're doing plus adding in all these fun SP features, for the same price, you're getting shown up.

>>87484544

Literally every fighting game series not by Capcom has full featured story modes, some extensive

Your thinking is what gets you UMVC3 and SF5: failed games

>>87484544
Bare bones. Nothing but whats necessary. Final destination.

The incentive is to entertain the players, give them what they want, include a mode thats easy to make and is a staple of the games preceding it.

"We dont have to so we wont" is joyless and boring.

Capcom can afford to add more to their fighting games, especially when theyre are being shown up by all their competitors who are offering meatier games for the same price. You cant live off tourneyfags, despite what they think.

>>87484572
That niche is the one keeping the game alive though. The people who will play the game for the gameplay, not the people who will play the single player then maybe one online match before looking somewhere else.

>>87484596
>he actually thinks UMVC3 is a failed game
Sales, playerbase and tournament presence say differently.

>>87484596
Don't forget SFxT, when will they learn?

>>87484596
What's a "full feature story mode"? Give me some examples.

Keep in mind the primary draw of fighting games since Street Fighter II was the multiplayer function. The Fatal Fury series released over the same period as SF2 and had a much larger emphasis on story and a narrative, but SF2 was the one that spread like wildfire.

>>87484617
>"We dont have to so we wont" is joyless and boring.
Have you considered the fact that maybe you just don't like fighting games?

>>87484634
Single player is gameplay you dingus.
Its keeping it afloat, but its not making it a success (and frankly I think its mostly the SF brand name thats doing that).

I dont want the gameplay to be casualised, but adding interesting features like challenge mode and a story (like every other fucking game does) widens the playerbase. Which equals more sales and more potential tourneyfags,

Otherswise its a secret club that'll stagnate and die,

Dont even get me started on the insane re-releases capcom does. The same tactic that almost killed the genre back in the day and theyre still pulling it.

>>87484657
Welcome to modern gaming. Where a medium sized set of characters and an online mode is no longer impressive for $60+.

In fact, its a rip off

>>87484697
Have much of bitch do you have to be to defend gameplay features being stripped out?
>Wow this game has barely anything to it.
>YOU JUST DONT LIKE MUH PUREBLOOD FIGHTING GAMES

>>87484736
That doesn't answer my question. It's your subjective opinion as to how much a fighting game is "worth" at various levels of content inclusion. I never see people level the "$60 ripoff" cudgel at other genres, and there are plenty of examples of fighting games being pretty reasonable about pricing, like the retail release of Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition being $40.

>>87484703
Single player is not gameplay, you're confusing it with content.
I personally think it's good that fighting games are the only game genre to still pull this shit.
Repeatedly stagnating the genre by doing the same thing over and over and (eventually) lead to its death and subsequent rebirth is, ironically, what's keeping this genre alive and fresh.
I fear for the day that single player content actually overtakes fighting games.

>>87484634
UMVC3 completely cratered sales wise and Capcom killed support of it promptly because there was no money in it

Like someone said, you severely overvalue tourneyfags.

>>87484703
Please tell us more about these "insane re-releases"

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>>87481797
I'll be honest, I don't know shit about marvel aside from shit I saw as a kid.

>>87483896
10/10 but to many characters from RE

>>87484803
>Wow this game has barely anything to it.
>Except for an arcade mode
>and a versus mode
>and an online mode
>and a training mode
>and a wide variety of characters with different playstyles to choose
>but single player story mode is the only thing that matters
>I TOTALLY LIKE FIGHTING GAMES YOU GUYS

>>87484871
Maybe because it was a re-release that should have just been DLC that came out only a few months after vanilla Marvel 3?
Vanilla sold a lot more as I recall. Ultimate didn't sell nearly as much because people could smell the bullshit from miles away.

>>87484830
How is it subjective when literally, no hyperbole, every other fighter in the market has a greater set of characters and more gameplay features for the same price?

How can you justify buying "Super" and "Hyper" versions of games, when they have 3 or 4 new characters, for anything more than $20?

Its almost pathetic really. Capcom has really cuckholded you.

>>87484966
But SFV has none of that at launch you retard.

>>87484966
You really like SFV don't you? Too bad it bombed hard because of retards like you who wanted that in the first place.

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>>87484930
>Japanese Spider-Man with Leopardon
HOLY FUCKING SHIT I NEED IT

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>>87481797
>Make your own full roster. Crop this or expand it to your liking, if you want, too.
>>87481709
>I wouldn't mind a massive roster, actually.

Challenge accepted.
I spent much more time on this than I probably should have, but here it is. I tried to bring back as many characters from 2 and 3 as I could, but I still had to omit some, while trying to also add some new characters.
Ryu would have his MvC1 ability to switch between his own playstyle and Ken and Akuma's, while Iron Man would have some of War Machine's moves that his own moveset already lacked.
Also, I had to track down as many sprites as possible because I wanted this sheet to look uniform and eye-pleasing.
This roster doesn't necessarily reflect every character I'd want, but hopefully one that would please as many people as possible. Balancing a roster this big would be a nightmare, though.

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>>87484892
The delusions of tourneyfags

All I need is Viewtiful Joe and Frank West
also since GotG has been a hit I think either RR stays in or we get Starlord with lvl 3 super that summons the entire crew

>>87484999
>>87485013
I said before that I'm not defending SFV. I've been talking about Marvel since the beginning.

And if SFV didn't have versus, online and training on launch, then what did it have?

>>87485041

There were only three releases of SF4 over six years.

That picture lists a free balance patch, and one paid expansion/patch that wasn't a standalone release

>>87484979
You keep saying "literally" when you aren't even providing examples, why should I take you seriously? In a genre where the majority of work goes into the character, the price for new releases or updates is going to be reflected in the characters. If you want to use Street Fighter as a metric, the Arcade Editon digital upgrade was about $15 with 4 new characters, which amounts to around 4-5 dollars per character.

>>87485088
For someone who's not defending SFV and actually defending Marvel, well you mention SFV a lot.

>>87485019
I couldn't tell from the thumbnail, but that does look pretty nice. It almost looks like screenshots from a long-lost expanded edition of Marvel 2. I can't really offer any criticism, since it brings back all my old favorites and that's all I'd really need. I can't even tell who was left out besides the majority of Street Fighters that were in Marvel 2.

>>87485300
People started bringing it up and I don't know why. I haven't even played it. I thought this was a MvC thread.

>>87485019
The Capcom side is a bit light on villains. Like I'd think about getting rid of Kyosuke or Maki to get M. Bison in there.

>>87485193
There should be zero you cuck

>>87485388
You'd make a really good businessperson. Fighting games released in the arcade need to do yearly updates to retain interest and keep making money. Or do you not even know why Super Street Fighter IV: /Arcade/ Edition exists?

>>87485019
I was about to complain about Roll being in there, but then I saw she had a broom and I remembered she was actually fun to play as in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, so nevermind.

>>87485459
Hey, I'm not saying ripping off your fans isn't good business, but its still ripping off the fans. Fuck, theyll even defend it

>>87484953
It's one of Capcom's top franchises, I thought three was being conservative honestly.

>>87485499
You keep crying and screaming about ripoffs but can't even be bothered to explain why it might be a ripoff. Fighting games are pretty upfront about the amount of content they offer, and there are plenty of different fighting games out there.

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I want Spiral to make a return. I would rather have X this time, rather than classic Megaman.

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>>87485630
Look at Tekken, outside of T5, they don't do remakes. The make that one current game and update the data every few months. There will be no T7, T7 Super, T7 Super Turbo, or T7 Ultra. Just one Tekken 7.

>>87485646
As much as I like classic Rock, I have to agree. X would offer a much bigger variety of moves.
Would Zero also be okay or is he still taboo because of lightning loops?

>>87485499
Expanding fighting games to keep them fresh and fix issues is he opposite of a bad thing

The bad thing was when you had to buy a totally new copy that obsoleted the previous one, but that's not much of an issue anymore since they can do that via upgrades of one base copy

Capcom weren't even very bad about it, you want bad, look at how Blazblue had it's life annihilated by constant, incredibly poorly timed non upgradable releases

If I'm not mistaken, there is technically a benefit to fans for an expanded edition being released, rather than just DLC, and that's time and manpower going into the update. Like if UMvC3, or any of the SF4 updates weren't given their own separate games, and instead went the same route but with DLC, it would take a lot longer for things to come out, as less resources would be allocated for the DLC than they would for a full new game. In regards to UMvC3 it may have been for the best it was done the way it was due to Capcom losing the license pretty soon afterwards.

Depending on how many characters are added, it also could end up cheaper, but that''s only if you would have wanted to purchase every character instead of like one.

>>87485345
Then don't mention SFV.
If you want to talk about gameplay and sales do it, but use MvC as the example.
And I am not the other anons but I can't understand how you defend SFV and I am a SFfag since the 90's.

>>87485752
>Look at Tekken, outside of T5, they don't do remakes. The make that one current game and update the data every few months. There will be no T7, T7 Super, T7 Super Turbo, or T7 Ultra. Just one Tekken 7.

Tekken 7 is already on it's second release, Tekken 7: Fated Retribution

6 and TTT2 also had multiple releases just like 5 did

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>>87485756
They all have a large variety of moves. You could probably add in all five main Mega Mans/Men and they could all have unique movesets.

>>87485831
>If you want to talk about gameplay and sales do it, but use MvC as the example.
That's what I'm doing.
I will never as long as I live defend SFV's disgusting business practices.

>>87485756
He's fine, just take away his cancel anything into/out of charged mega buster.

>>87485630
>there are plenty of different fighting games out there.

Yes and that makes the defense of Street Fighter so baffling when nearly every other modern fighting game outclasses it in terms of features for the same price with the only edge it has being it's core gameplay. Gameplay quality is completely subjective obviously but let's say it is the best for the sake of argument. Would you really say that that is because they do not implement other features? Is it really logical to assume that if Capcom threw in a decent story mode that suddenly the gameplay would go down the shitter? I do not get why so called fans defend getting less content. All it would take is a higher budget and slightly longer dev time (something SFV obviously needed anyway). If Capcom can't justify spending the time and money required to make the newest game in their biggest franchise a fully featured product on par with it's peers rather than early access and indie games then what the fuck are they even doing?

>>87485871
You technically could, but if you really need multiples, I think you'd do fine just adding classic and X, and leave other slots for other characters from the franchise. At least for aesthetic diversity.

>>87485871
That's a bit of an overkill I think.

>>87484930
How, pray tell, could Charles Xavier possibly be playable in a fighting game?

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>>87485646
>>87485756
>>87485871
>>87485892
Or just give us best robot master to be playable.

>>87485942
He already was in Mutant Academy 2 on PS1

I think he just floated in his yellow chair and used psychic attacks

>>87485942
With a assist, just how Ant-Man is there with Hawkeye. Have kitty with him, to phase him in and out of danger, via command moves.

Strong is the salt in this topic.

>>87485942
A better alternative would probably be to add Onslaught instead.

>>87485980
Salt and fightans have a long history together after all.

>>87485929
>>87485935
Well I'm not saying that they should do that, just that they could because there are so many abilities that they've all had over the years. Personally I think the best balance would be Classic Mega Man, Zero, Tron, and Bass.EXE, but I'd be fine with anything as long as there actually is a Mega Man.

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>>87485943
I think you uploaded the wrong image, bruh.

>>87485942
>send astral projections out
>run a motherfucker over with the wheelchair
>air wheelchair combos
come on son

>>87485920
Capcom as a developer was never concerned with putting a large amount of story into its fighting games. We saw them try to respond to market demand with A Shadow Falls, but that was clumsy at best. If there are fighting games out there that do story content well, why not just play and support them instead of complaining about the series that don't? The gameplay will always be secondary to the story in fighting games, some developers have the time, resources, and interest to do story content, some don't, it's that simple.

>>87486011
>I'd be fine with anything as long as there actually is a Mega Man.
I hear that. I'm still baffled by Capcom's decision with that in 3. I almost wouldn't have minded it as much if Tron and Zero weren't in there, but having them there without any Mega Man makes the decision that much stranger. It's like adding in Chun-Li and Zangief but no Ryu.

>>87486011
I get where you're coming from. I'd be ok with just X and Zero, if only because X has been continuously shafted over the years.

should have Phil Coulson do profiles on the Capcom characters with additional commentaries by Fitz and Simmons

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>>87486014
Bitch, please.

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>>87485943
>>87486014
>>87486079

You guys are really bad at uploading a picture of the best Robot Master.

What do I have to do to get Stan Lee's magnificent voice as the announcer for this game? It'd be like the announcer from MSHvSF, but taken even further.

>>87486060
That's a crazy dream, at the most he will just show up in a few characters endings

>>87486060
Marvel vs Capcom Files
Ryu
Identity Status: Public
Known Relatives: Parents unknown, possibly deceased. Gouken (sensei and adoptive father)
Enemies: Akuma, M.Bison, Seth, Gill
Powers/Weapons: Skilled in martials arts and ki manipulation
Coulson's Note: Trained from childhood in a style that is considered a blend of various forms of karate, taekwondo and jujitsu, Ryu's a warrior seeking the ultimate opponent. Even when he won the first Street Fighter tournament, he was far from satisfied. He's always on the go, seeking for that one person who can push his skills to the limit. Yet he must ever be careful not to give in this so-called "Satsui No Hadou" or whatever he calls it that made his sensei's brother go off his rocker with power. Keep an eye out for any fighting events, sanctioned or otherwise for a guy wearing a red headband, white gi, and carrying a duffel bag.

BRING BACK AMATERASU

LET THE SUN RISE AGAIN

>>87481961
It's not bad it's just they are smack dab in the middle of the uncanny valley

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>>87486014
>>87486127
>>87486079

Poor taste, all of you. Pure Gaijins. Inb4 Skullman.

>>87485863
This is a common practice now. Even MKX has an ultimate edition.

Am I the only one that misses the simpler 2v2 tag-team from the earlier versus games? I think I even prefer it to the 3v3 tag-team that MvC2 and MvC3 use.

I guess I do like having 2 assists instead of just 1, though.

>>87482939
What's busted with it now?

They released Alien and the other stuff on PC last I heard and people were happy

>>87486060
What if Coulson is playable because movie sinergy?

>>87486159
Chun-Li
Identity Status: Public
Known relatives: Mother (deceased), Father ( whereabouts unknown)
Enemies: M.Bison, Shadaloo, Seth, S.I.N., Illuminati
Powers/Weapons: Skilled in martial arts, ki manipulation, detective skills
Coulson's Note: Graduated at the top of her class in Hong Kong police academy and skilled in wuxia, Chun-Li uses her skills to keep peace in her country and to bring down the criminal organization of Shadaloo that took her father.He was a top detective in Hong Kong and she followed his footsteps. I can always tell a "Daddy's Girl" when I see one. Like father like daughter though she also reminds me of a certain agent of ours. Chun-Li is working with Interpol to find the mastermind of Shadoloo's successor, S.I.N. I believe we have a new candidate for S.H.I.E.L.D.

>>87486227
So long as he doesn't bring anyone over from Agents of Shit with him.

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>>87486159
Gill a bad guy? Anon you got your sources wrong.

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We need more obscure characters on the Marvel front. They have a shit ton of people that would be perfect for a game like MVC, Slapstick being the main one that comes to head.

>>87486060
>>87486159
>>87486231
How many characters are you going to write these for? I'm liking the idea, but we don't exactly have a roster in place to use as a guideline.

Unless if you plan on doing this for every character that's ever been playable in the MvC series, in which case you're insane, but do carry on.

>>87486247
>Not wanting Simmons, Daisy and Ward as assists

>>87486308
I've been wanting Slapstick in MvC since at least 2001... maybe 2002, I can't remember. Point is, a long-ass time.

>>87486060
Please no, Coulson is shit. Have Uatu do it or Old Man Fury.

>>87486376
I second the Uatu suggestion, actually. It'd be very fitting, too.

Can I just say how happy I am that Switchfag seems to be MIA from this most recent thread? It's like I can breathe again.

>>87486346
>Ward as assist
I mean, it wouldn't make much sense
I like the idea of having assists for a SHIELD character, but I'd rather have Nick Fury with command assists for Coulson, Quake, Hill, maybe Mockingbird?
Ward/Hive deserves to be his own character, come on

What is mvc4 is the fan pandering game everyone wants with twice as many characters (with custom assists ala skullgirls) AND assist only characters?

All platforms and crossplay

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>>87486348
It would be fucking great. One of his hypers could be this gag, but with a hydra agent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-k5J4RxQdE

>>87486434
Stop tempting fate, you faggot.

>>87486438
Give me a move set for Ward.

>>87486438
>We'll never get OG Nick Fury back.

You made me sad asshole.

>>87485019
Replace Batsu with Jon Talbain and this roster is fucking perfect. Excessively huge, but perfect.

>>87486552
Ward I don't really imagine it, but having Hive or any HYDRA leader could be neat
I mean, maybe Hive would be too much like Nemesis from UMvC3 but with more status effect inducing attacks and HYDRA agent assists? I don't really know
>>87486598
I'm sorry anon

>>87486489

At this point, the game is 50/50. Could have a bullshit roster lacking important characters like 3, or maybe 2 but the Marvel side features more characters people actually give a fuck at this point.

Due to my cynical nature, it's probably gonna be the former.

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>>87486438

>MVC4 will have pandering to the movie shit.

Fuck the MCU and shit casual fans that spawned from it.

>>87482242
>Marvel has a policy that either all FF members are in a game or none of them are, so they told them to scrap them, offering the Super-Skrull as a substitute.

Unless you provide proof I'm gonna have to call bullshit.

>>87486392
Uatu's dead and the Unseen's taken his place but other than Unworthy Thor #1, the latter hasn't interacted with the Nu-616 much

>>87486744

Meanwhile on the Capcom side we're getting Street Fighter V pandering up the ass with some Resident Evil pandering and maybe nu-Megaman. Maybe Monster Hunter too.

I'm wouldn't be surprised if MVC4 is cancelled and instead we get Avengers Vs. Street Fighter.

>>87486786
Like how we got SF4 pandering up the ass? At most we'll see Necalli and that's it.

>>87486744
How the hell could it not? Most of Marvel's major characters have shown up in a movie or show at this point, a roster not made up mostly of these characters would end up being a bunch of Z-listers or it would be Marvel's current comic lineup of diversity hires filling in for the actual heroes.

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>>87481797
i tried to put in as much representation as possible

r8 me m8

>>87486786
>>87486744
Honestly Mcu pandering means shit. Cap, Iron Man and Hulk are all guaranteed. Wolverine and Magneto and Doom are also guaranteed despite Fox embargo.
FF have never been on any Capcom fighting game.
Hawkeye was on MvC3. Black Panther, Wanda and Black Widow are highly popular among fans.

>>87486865
Too much xmen
3/10

>>87486865
My african american.
Minor franchises need more exposition.

>>87486865
>updating this so that Random is now just the Random buttons.

Haw.

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>>87486183
>>87486127
>>87486014
>>87486079
>>87485943
back the fuck up

>>87486654
Why does the game need 'important' characters?

>>87486825
>Most of Marvel's major characters have shown up in a movie or show at this point

They're only "major" because normies saw them in movies. The real "major" characters Marvel has are Spider-Man, Hulk, Wolverine, and Cap, that's it, those are the only character that have consistently meant something to the overarching universe at Marvel consistently. I don't want to see shit like Quicksilver or Black Panther, because they already got their exposure. Put in characters like Sentry or Kazarr, or Howard for Christ's sake.

>>87486885
>Movie goers

>Fans.

This meme needs to die.

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>>87483719
There was just a port of a lot of the classic games, dude.

>>87487013
>The real "major" characters Marvel has are Spider-Man, Hulk, Wolverine, and Cap, that's it, those are the only character that have consistently meant something to the overarching universe at Marvel consistently.

This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've seen in these threads and that includes the dumb Switchfag from yesterday.

>>87487036
Ah yes, they've shown up in a mainstream movie so that means as a comic fan you're no longer allowed to like them. I'm sure that attitude will work out great for you.

>>87486865
>Barracuda
as much as i love the character
why him over Frank?

>>87486911
>MvC
>Too much X-men

>>87487036
You need to die.
>>87487053
He's a true believer anon, let him be mad at casuals.

>>87487053
Prove me wrong then. Those four characters are the only ones who showed up in nearly all the events in impacted them in major ways. The only other character I could see you having a case for is Iron Man and Nick Fury. Iron Man's claim to fame was being the designated villain of Civil War and we'll never see Fury again a part from him being a Watcher stand in.

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>>87487120
I know, right?

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>>87481797
Reposting mine from last thread. Too lazy to add more so I also want:

>Marvel: Cyclops, Magik, Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Nova, Rocket Raccoon, Luke Cage, Venom, Taskmaster

>Capcom: Ibuki, Cammy, Jill Valentine, Lord Raptor, Firebrand, Captain Commando, Viewtiful Joe, Tron Bonne, a Monster Hunter rep, a Dragon's Dogma rep

>>87487081
>Implying fans ever liked Wanda.

>Implying fans ever liked Natasha.

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>>87482134
>Complaining about Nero & Chuck Greene being too similar
>Has Silk & Spidey on your list

>>87487152
I think there might have been a slight error in the image you posted.

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>>87487196
>>87487152
>>87481797
Oops lmao

>>87486865
>Black Widow from Slammasters 2
My negro.

>>87487147
Right so unless they are those four characters they are all on an even plane huh? Strange, Dr. Doom, Cyclops, Reed Richards, etc., they're on the same level as the likes of Slapstick if you don't take movies in to account? You do realize how utterly retarded a notion that is correct? There are varying degrees of importance and even discounting the MCU characters like the ones mentioned and other big characters will always take precedence over the likes of say Man-Thing or The Spot.

>>87487219
Probably the most realistic roster so far. Still lacking true newcomers.

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>>87485019
>>87487219
Two lists so far that both have Rashid. I'm a little surprised, but pleasantly so. Good to see people appreciating Rashid of the turbulent wind.

>>87487302
Rashid is hands down the best new character in SF5, not that much of a feat considering the competition, but still.

Nathan "Rad" Spencer
Identity Status: public
Enemies: Master D, The Badds, BioReign
Powers/weapons: hand-to-hand combat, firearms, enhanced strength with left bionic arm
Coulson's Note: A dedicated and decorated soldier equipped with a bionic arm that gives him enhanced strength and reach inaccessible areas. Spencer helped in stopping a plan involving the cloned head of a certain dictator (Geez .Don't these groups come up with anything original anymore?)

>>87487219
Great job my friend.
>>87487298
I would add Hyperion, Batsu, Huitzil and Machine Man.

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>>87484089
Tried to fill out the image with what I put down here >>87484321

Switched out Fetus of God for Tower of Arrogance (not Vanity I guess) because honestly I like the idea of fighting on the side of a building a lot better, and also Wundargore out for Thanos' place from Infinity Gauntlet because there's no good picture of Wundagore out there. Also because I couldn't get a good picture of an Incursion over the Apocalypse sphinx from when Dr. Stange killed the Great Society. Its actually super easy to find good enough pictures for the Capcom stuff and harder to find the Marvel stuff. Probably should axe the Sanctum though.

>>87487426
>Ever not going with the Fetus of God
Come on, man.

>>87487337
At which point did he became black, changed hair color and his wife became his arm?

Arthur
Identity Status: public
Enemies: Red Arremer, Astaroth, Lucifer, Sardius
Powers/weapons: swordsmanship, magical attacks and armor
Coulson's Note: a knight who comes from a kingdom where magic and the sword rule. This guy's been literally through hell and back to get his girl. Sometimes more than once. Maybe he should get some advice from Stark on how to get some better armor.

>>87486942
>choosing random now has a random chance of giving you random as a secret character

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>>87487462
But you're fighting on the side of a building! I don't think there's any other fighting game stage like it. Not that there's many other stages like Fetus of God, but it gets a lot more exposure as it is.

Tron Bonne
Identity Status: Public
Known Relatives: Teisel Bonne (Elder brother), Bom Bonne( younger brother)
Powers/Weapons: rides and fights in the mecha Gustaff and uses Servbots to do her bidding.
Coulson's Note: Tron belongs to a family of pirates, a genius-level mechanic, and she has a small army of minions that do her bidding. She loves treasures and anything that isn't bolted down (and even if it is) is up for grabs. Let's hope that she's doesn't steal anything from the wrong person.

>>87482719
Pretty good besides War Machine instead of Tony & Sentinel being there but no Thor.

Capcom side is good, but there's too many Street Fighter characters (including Guy & Cody since they're more famous for SF now).

female thor, female iron man, hydra captain america, Dante from fuck you, new Jill valentine, no more x-men....all confirmed

>>87487625
I agree....street fighter may be a fighting game but it's not a big spectacle like MvC....we need more big and loud characters

Not going to post a whole grid, but I would love to see Doc Ock in an MvC, and I haven't seen him in any of these.

>>87487701
superior spiderman would make me happy

Strider Hiryu
Identity status: secret
Powers/Weapons: Olympic-level agility, hand-to-hand combat, swordsmanship, use of robotic drones
Enemies: Matic, Meio, Hien, Solo
Coulson's Note: This guy's one of the best of the best. His skills could put even my team to shame. His group deals in assassinations, kidnapping, infiltration, demolition, and sedition. That blade he's wielding has a similar density to vibranium and can cut through just about anything like a carver's knife through grade A beef

>>87487298
It's really hard to do with Marvel when they now have so many "Must have" characters that were in previous games.

Spidey, Iron Man, Cap, Deadpool, Wolverine, Thor & Hulk are Marvel's most popular characters; so that's already 7 spots. Storm is another super popular character with a ton of franchise history, there's 8. Then Dr Doom & Magneto are Marvel's two most popular villains that also have a ton of series history, we're now at 10. Then Dr Strange & Thanos are two popular rising stars at Marvel, now we're at 12.

Not a whole ton of room for newcomers unless they try to meet UMvC3's 50 character roster.

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>>87484089
its hard to pick just from 8 marvel locales

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>>87483896
Marvel side is great, but I'd personally take out Vision or Wanda for Star-Lord.

Capcom side is pretty good but Felicia being in it & no Wesker/Haggar brings it down a bit.

>>87488736
Star Lord is right next to Rocket.

>>87488824
Shit my bad. My mind went right over that since I was looking for the DnA costume to match Rocket's.

>>87488736
>Felicia being in it
>brings it down
what are you gay

>>87488856
Cat girl fags go home.

>>87486865
>silvia over joe
0/10

>>87484265
>The characters were widely un balanced
Says you. The meta's evolved where just about everyone besides Hsien Ko & Iron Fist are viable with the right team/player.

Felicia
Identity Status: Public
Powers/Weapons: Superhuman senses and reflexes, superhuman strength, Feline skills and instincts
Coulson's Note: We have reports of a strange catwoman making performances on Broadway and dancing for the public. Our scans indicate that she’s not a mutant or an Inhuman either. This little kitty has others like her walking around in New York freely. They also put a pretty damn good fight against the Friends of Humanity (how are those clowns still around?).

>>87489032
Ooh! Do one for Morrigan!

>>87489059
Morrigan
Identity Status: unknown
Known relatives: Berial (father, deceased), Lilith ("sister")
Enemies: Demitri, Jedah
Powers/Weapons: superhuman strength, shapeshifting wings, magical projection, flight
Coulson's Note: We've been hearing reports of men being drained of energy and were last seen by a green-haired woman. She also had an encounter with a pack of vampires, in three minutes it was the vampires who were limping away. We don't know what she really is. All that we do know is that she's dangerous to any male. High level mystics and demon-hunters may be required for this one.

Amaterasu
Enemies: Orochi, Ninetails, Yami
Powers/Weapons: uses Japan's Three treasures (sword, mirror, and beads) as weapons (despite having no hands!), uses a "Celestial Brush" to manipulate the elements and "heal" the land, natural wolf fighting instincts
Coulson's Note: Gods come in all shapes and sizes. This one took the form of a wolf. Amatarasu has taken on things that would wet your pants. Her powers are faith-based. The more faith people have in her, the more powerful she becomes.

>>87485019
Pretty good, I'd replace Marrow/Jubilee/Blackheart/Black Cat with Cyclops/Captain Marvel/Ms. Marvel/Doctor Octopus.

Why'd you include Marrow over Cyclops? Lmao

>>87489375
Look at the first Marvel character.

>>87486308
>>87486348
Well, he's become more relevant than ever since he's been appearing in Deadpool so there's a slim chance.

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>>87487013
>Sentry or Kazarr
>You want shit characters like this over characters with tons of great comics like Thor & Black Panther

>>87486865
Random/10

>>87487147
>Iron Man's claim to fame was being the designated villain of Civil War

Or you know, being one of the main Avengers since the start of the team. Or having a couple of iconic storylines.

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>>87481755
>no reason to lie.
>needing a reason to lie on the internet

>>87487219
>Marvel has four villains
>Capcom has two (maybe three if you count that biker chick, but I wouldn't know since I don't know shit about Rival Schools)

>>87490143
If I could add more, it'd have been: Taskmaster, Venom, Doc Ock, M. Bison, Sigma & Firebrand.

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>>87484089
heres my attempt

>>87484930
>>87485017
Someone saw my wish list

Supaidaman needs in!

Can we also have a solo comic run dammit!

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>>87490143
>Rival Schools
Akira malal when?

>>87490902
Speaking of which
>>87439570
Rate My Taste if you want.
Who would you guys add?

>>87481772
>but I'll take a huge roster in exchange for a less balanced fighter every time in a game like this.
Agreed.
They're fanservice games, in the sense of the characters and moves and stages are chosen to make the fans smile and appreciate them.

>>87481755
Fuck the Capcom characters, give me a new MSH game.

>>87491319
No

>>87481797
Iron Man - Cap - Thor
Hulk - Dr. Strange - Black Panther
Spider-Man - Star-Lord - Ant-Man
Songbird - Kamala - Taskmaster
Wolverine - Storm - Deadpool
Dr. Octopus - Magneto - Dr. Doom

Ryu - Chun-Li - Dudley
Powered Akira - Haggar - Morrigan
RE3 Jill - Arthur - Dante
Mega Man - Captain Commando - Strider Hiryu
Qurupeco - Phoenix Wright - Gene
Wesker - Jedah - Sigma

Stages

Avengers' Mansion - Hell's Kitchen
Pleasant Hill - AIM Island
Utopia - Wakanda
Battleworld - Knowhere

SF2 Intro - New-Type Airport(Storm Eagle's stage)
Raccoon City - Taiyo High Rooftop
Courtroom - Metro City Police District
Fetus of God - Kilo Crab

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>>87491319
Coming right up!

>>87491637
I don't really think Peco's a good idea for a Monster Hunter rep. He's not really that iconic to the series, and while you could argue that his gimmick would be to summon monsters, a Monster Hunter monster' gimmick should just be that it is a monster.

>>87491675
it still hurts
Well at least MFF is good

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>>87481797
It's vanilla, I know

>>87481797
Can't do it. My roster either ends up too big or it's missing too many characters I want.

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>tfw Capcom will use SF5's game model for MVC4
>game releases with barely any content and a roster smaller than vanilla MVC3
That's my only fear about a potential MVC4

>>87484050
Comics is a niche man child market. Being under the house of mouse's control 100% its ok for them to do edgy risks.

Vidya partnership is an entirely different ball park. Have we gotten SJW! version characters yet in a Marvel game as the only option?

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>>87496469
Between movie synergy & Capcom not wanting them, we won't get any shit like She-Thor or Riri Iron Man.

At most, we'd get Ms. Marvel & maybe Robbie who are actual good characters anyway

>>87496920
She-Thor is a chance, but yeah Iron Riri probably isn't. Also Laura will be Wolverine, and Logan will be in the game as Logan.

>>87496993
There's literally no way Marvel & Capcom will choose She-Thor over normal Thor. That's what casuals & Japanese people know Thor as. They'd be so confused if Thor was a girl for no reason.

Same for Laura/Logan, I'll be shocked if Laura returns desu.

This SJW push is just the comic side's way of hoping that their shit one day gets adapted into stuff people will actually watch/play. But the quality is so fucked that only a couple things have/will do that (Miles, Kamala, Robbie & maybe Sam as Cap).

The games side will want to follow what the movies are doing or will do. At most we'd see alternate costumes of that stuff which would be fine.

Wolverine's MvC 4 theme will be a mix of Original Wolverine MSH theme with a bit of her X-23 theme

>>87497097
>There's literally no way Marvel & Capcom will choose She-Thor over normal Thor.
Didn't say they would, said there's a chance.
>Laura/Logan
That one I'd be surprised if it DIDN'T happen. X-23 and Logan already have their own movesets, Logan is just as recognizable as Logan as he is as Wolverine, the Lauraverine books are being better received than She-Thor in Mahvel's market, hell even MvC itself has a history of multiple Wolverines in games.

I've had some ideas for the story mode (if there's one) for MvC4.

I mean, it would be a good idea to make it into a Time Runs Out/Secret Wars like storyline, where after a sort of catastrophe happens, both the Marvel and Capcom universes have merged.

Now, depending on from which side your characters go, you can end up fighting a final boss, but if you do well, you fight the true boss... Which I dunno if it should be God DOOM or someone else.

Anyways, my choice for those normal end bosses would be for Capcom's side either Sigma or SFV's Bison, while for Marvel it could be either Ultron (the Annihilation one) or Maker.

The semi final stage could be the Final Incursion Point, then maybe a Killstadium (or whatever the place was where everyone were sent to fight in SW) and finally Battleworld (where the Earth can be seen) for the true final boss.

...or I dunno, just thinking about it makes me more worried about how would it go.

>>87497097
Laura might return since she's going to be in Logan and she was relatively well received in MvC3. She won't be Wolverine though; that'll just end up being her DLC costume.

>>87497592
Chakravratin or Yami

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this is hard.

>>87498156
Demitri will never happen because the fans will reject him without Midnight Bliss, and Marvel will reject their big stars getting turned into damsels.

Akuma
Known Relatives: Gouken ( brother, "deceased"), Goutetsu ( teacher, deceased)
Power/weapons: Skilled in martials arts and ki manipulation, uses a killing technique called "Shun Goku Satsu"
Fury's Note: This is what Ryu fears the most: Being driven mad by power. His master's brother is a clear case example. Luckily, he's not the type to just fight anybody. This guy wants to find a worthy opponent. Uses a more lethal form of Ryu's fighting style including a deadly technique called Shun Goku Satsu. CQC is not, I repeat, not recommended. Has other nasty techniques in his repertoire to avoid as well.

>>87498192

I don't care. I want him in.

>>87487296
You're the one who implied there was a specific set of "main" characters at Marvel.

>>87489590
I never said I didn't want characters like Thor in the game. I said I didn't want characters like Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver. Having an entire roster of just MCU characters is retarded. But in regards to Black Panther, I don't see how his moveset would offer anything new to the game.

>>87489700
So was Wasp and Pym, that changes nothing.

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>>87493888
Where is Gene you pigfuckers

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>>87498156
I know. I'm just putting in guys I'd like to have added on top of what's already in UMvC3, and I'm realizing I want more rows in there, despite how giant the roster would be.

>>87498192
Oh please, its not like all of the male Marvel characters haven't had female versions of themselves already.

>>87497592
Or, to take a step back from multiversal catastrophes, we could have it take place after Galactus merged the Marvel and Capcom worlds and give each character a small story that gives us a peek into how the world is now.`

>>87498323
That's kinda the point. I think they'd prefer Captain America turned into the biggest titted dumbest bimbo imaginable rather than have Capcom put them on blast for their own lack of originality.

>>87487302
He would translate to a marvel game better than most SF characters desu

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Personally, I give my roster a 10/10

>>87498584
You need to have Lady Stiltman and Batroc's daughter for diversities sake, man.

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I take it people didn't like how MvC3 looked?

>>87498685
I did. It captured a cartoony style well and looked roughly a million times better than Capcom's other fighting game engine of the time where everyone looked like monsters

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>>87498637
FUCK! Is this better?

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So, what changed? Didn't MVC3 die because of licensing issues? How is MVC4 going to get around that?

>>87498685
I don't really mind it much, but there are a few characters that didn't make the jump to 3d too well. Like Felicia. Although, that's not really the fault of the style.

>>87498147
Wait, Yami has been already used, sorta.

How about a fusion between a Marvel and a Capcom villain, would that work?

>>87498737
Marvel's game division has a new head and he wants to get Marvel on good terms with other game companies. He probably offered some sort of deal saying they had the rights to Marvel characters in fighting game format or something.

>>87498685
I thought it looked great. Much better than the weird roided out freaks in recent SF games or the old patchwork of reused sprites on bad 3D backgrounds that was MvC2. Only real problem was some faces looked off like Frank West looking nothing like he did in DR.

>>87498797
Galactus and Pyron fused could work, but it would just be Galactus on fire.

>>87498737
Marvel has been slowly walking those licensing clampdowns back. Games that got pulled slowly started appearing on Steam again, new PS2 ports popped up...

>>87498803
>He probably offered some sort of deal saying they had the rights to Marvel characters in fighting game format or something.
Okay THAT I didn't know.

Have the final boss be the Beyonder.

>>87498685
I hated how they went ham with the shading.

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>>87498737
Disney seems to have finally realized that they can't make in-house games worth a shit and that outsourcing them to actual game studios like Insomniac is a much better way to get players beyond casuals who will spend a few bucks in a mobile game.

>>87498797
Like Dark Kahn in MKvsDC? It could work, like have the Venom symbiote attach to Bison or the T-Virus get injected in to Green Goblin.

>>87498906
That could also work.

But let's be honest, doesn't the games have a sort of pattern in the type of boss?

I mean, in X-Men, there was Akuma as the secret boss (or was he a hidden character?), then in MSH it was Thanos (and as a secret character, that lil girl from Darkstalkers), then in XMvSF it was Paco lips, and in MSFvSF it was Cyber Akuma, a Capcom Original.

Now for the MvC series, we started with Onslaught, then Abyss (Capcom Original?) and then finally Galactus.

So... Does that mean that if the pattern is followed, for MvC4 would it be a Capcom Original again???

I really hope not.

>>87499301
Have it be grown up Anita

>>87481755
>Don't listen to Switchfag about Nintendo, Disney, or Platinum Games. Nothing's been confirmed by YogaFlame24 outside of MvC4 happening and it beginning testing next year.
Yes it has, you're delusional, seek help.

>>87484319
They are not using those companies, they are using Platinum, end of story.

MVC2 was a excellent game.
>>87483712
>Think this will suck because of those 3 Activision games Platinum did.
Still, Switch needs this for it's launch window.

>>87483712
>MvC 3 sucked
>I didn't like it so it sucks
fag

>>87484319
>Marvel 2 was made in-house and it was shit.
Capocm's in-house fighting studio was on its last legs at that point. SF3's failure hit it hard.

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>>87486865
Huitzil/10

>>87493888
>cartoon Morrigan and Pocket Fighter Felicia

>>87500923
Was it really a failure?

>>87501158
Yes. Akiman himself has said SF3 didn't make any money. He also says that Darkstalkers sold well. By the way people today talk, you'd think that Darkstalkers was the flop and that SF3 was a huge hit. Just shows that gamers don't really know their history.

>>87501158
People didn't like the complete absence of mainstays and it took 3 tries to actually make SF3 good.

>>87501193
I hear a lot of phraise when someone talks about SF3.
I still don't understand why Darkstalkers is an almost dead franchise outside an small niche and waifufags.

>>87496444
>game releases with barely any content
Just like MvC3

>>87501269
>I hear a lot of phraise when someone talks about SF3.
Nowadays, sure. When it came out? Everyone was upset that all their favorite characters got dumped for "a bunch of freaks." And 3D fever was in full swing at the time, so even the Disney-quality animation of SF3 was seen as outdated.

>>87501374
The game was developed by the same studio who did Heritage for the future? Because That way I would understand ''the bunch of freaks''.

>>87501269
>I still don't understand why Darkstalkers is an almost dead franchise outside an small niche and waifufags.
It's old. That's really the crux of it. The last game in the series was made in 1997. Pretty much every single other fighting game franchise has had lots of new games since then.

>>87501443
>Pretty much every single other fighting game franchise has had lots of new games since then.
If onyl, Street Fighter is the only fighting game that has had lots of new games, mostly updates.
Rival Schools, Red Earth, Star Gladiator and the game Jin Saotome is from are almost dead franchises too.
Even Final Fight haven't had a game in years.

>>87481755
I hope they bring back phoenix wright but change him up so he isn't "stall for RNG not to fuck you over" character.

Bring back venom or adding carnage would be pretty great too.

>>87501580
I'm talking about ones from other companies. King of Fighters, Tekken, Gulty Gear, etc. Sure, all the other Capcom fighters are dead, but they were never even very big to begin with. Red Earth in particular did so poorly that to this day it still has yet to receive any sort of home port.

>>87501666
To think KOF was almost a dead franchise too a few years ago.

>>87498685
The only thing I didn't really like is the hard black shading.
I'd kinda like to see them try a retro pop-art look.

>>87498782
>there are a few characters that didn't make the jump to 3d too well. Like Felicia.
Darkstalkers characters need lots of old-school rubbery squash and stretch to look right. It was a major part of the style. In general, modern 3D games just don't do that very much.

>>87481755
Looking at this artwork makes me wonder how Sora from Kingdom Hearts would look like if this official artist did his character design for the game (yes I know they don't use pixels anymore for these games).

On that note, would anyone oppose Disney allowing Sora as a guest spot in a would be Marvel vs Capcom fighting game? After all, Disney owns Sora just as much as they own Marvel nowadays.

>>87502834
>Looking at this artwork makes me wonder how Sora from Kingdom Hearts would look like if this official artist did his character design for the game (yes I know they don't use pixels anymore for these games).
I think you're getting illustration, design, and sprites all mixed up. The people who drew the illustrations like in the OP typically didn't design the characters or make their ingame sprites. They just drew some artwork after all that stuff was already done.

>>87498685
I thought it looked fine. Honestly, it was leagues better than the art style of SFIV or even SFV.

>>87502953
Don't respond to this guy. He's either been autisting or trolling up these Mahvel threads.

>>87481873
would play the shit out of this

>>87498685

It looked great. People just hate it because "MUH SPRITES!"

This dumb shit complaint will never go away.

>>87481755
Was something else hinted in YogaFlame24's tweets?

>>87511431
That isn't a generalization at all. Wow what a smart and cool guy.

>>87511444
Nah, nothing at all. Just that the game is happening and it begins testing next year. What "next year" pertains to is anybody's guess.

If anybody tells you anything else (like that one faggot that keeps saying Mario and Donald Duck will be in it, it'll be Nintendo exclusive, it'll be by Platinum Games, etc.), they're just talking out of their ass. YogaFlame24 hasn't said or hinted at ANYTHING but what is just in that one tweet, and a follow-up tweet about how everybody's been messaging him about it.

The only other things he said were responding to people saying that he trusts his source, but that's it.

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Waiting for the return of my gal

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Pole Strippers Team

>>87498803
I'm still waiting for Marvel to do more AAA console games. I was happy that they announced a new Spider-Man game, but we haven't had any news on it in months.

>>87481755
We've discussed rosters, we've discussed stages, we've discussed story mode. Now I want to discuss something else: ultimate attacks/hyper combos
For instance In the classic games Iron Man uses "Proton Cannon". I believe this should be replaced with Hulkbuster, Iron Legion or the Uni-Beam.
What are your ideas for ultimate attacks?

>>87512064
I really doubt they're going to change much in regards to Iron Man, which is a shame, since him, Doom, and to an extent Magneto, all have movesets that don't quite seem to represent them properly, but they've had them for so many games that Capcom wouldn't change them.

>>87481873

Is that Gravity? Does Marvel even use him?

>>87512606
Doom's molecular Shield was based on an attack he used on Iron Man in Iron Man Vol.1 issue 149

>>87512714
I know the moves weren't just made up from nothing, like how Iron Man's proton cannon came from a fight against Technovore, but they still don't really represent the character as a whole since they don't normally do those things. Its kind of like if Thor had that weird magnet trick he did on Loki back in Avengers issue 1.