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What /co/ thinks about Japanese attempts of doing cape stuff?

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>>87439363
Not enough fuckin'.
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>>87439363
needs more fanservice
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>>87439363
sexist
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>>87439363
The same we think about China copying everything with shitty quality. We laugh at them.
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>>87439363
I think it's hilarious how a superhero hentai parody has better fight choreography and action scenes in it than real superhero comics.
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I think that braveman is the greatest hero of all time
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>>87439363

While this one is good for what we wanna get out of Power Girl

Pic related has felt like a good X Men

Also some anon brought it up in another thread a while back but Tiger and Bunny was a serious version of Mystery Men with the whole heroes with sponsorships
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>>87439466
That's because a hero is as good as its villains
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>>87439439
To be fair, it wasn't hentai at the beginning. It was a legit superhero stuff until...you know, the manga was axed and the author mad as hell started to do "doujins" about it.
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>>87439466
>>87439514

Is that the actual title Braveman? Cause it looks like a decent spoof
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>>87439539
Title is "Zannen Jokanbu Black General"
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>>87439539
Zannen Jokanbu Black General.
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>>87439582
>>87439598

Just got to chapter 3

Its like Batman got stuck fighting Across
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>>87439363
Galaxy angel was like a comedic superhero team,But they almost never used capes,Does it count?
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they have done them years and its called masked avangers genre
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>>87439397
Leave,please.
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Generally much, much better than American capeshit.
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>>87439672
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>>87439725
>that doujin where Ranpha grew a dick and fucked Forte
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>>87439758
There is an episode where Forte turns into a man and Ranpha falls in love with Her/Him.
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>>87439775
I should rewatch it.
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>>87439672
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>>87439363
The girl is a lesbian superheroine.
Her wife is cute.
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>>87439695
This is pleasing
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>>87439835
Take that U.S.A.
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>>87439363
>The doujins are translated now
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My main problem with japanese cape stuff is the extreme individualism (or should I call it extreme love for the main character?) that reduces the "japanese cape stuff" to "standard japanese stuff".

In cape when the hero struggles with a situation he retreats or its beaten, then they look for help of other characters or look for a plan to counter and then try again.

In Japanese works they always succeed even against all the odds, and in the few cases they fail, they just return on their own with renewed determination and succeed.

In other words, they just punch things, when they look like they are going to lose they punch harder, and in the case they actually lose they just come back punching even more harder. That really limits the situations making it boring on the long run.

There is no progression, no actual struggle, no real interaction with other characters, no plans or tactics, is just the main hero being the main hero.

At least that's how it feels to me. Still I enjoy them, like I enjoy other /a/ related stuff, not saying that its bad but it feels completly different to actual cape material.
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They've been doing superhero stuff for a while now
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>>87440056
>My main problem with japanese cape stuff is the extreme individualism
>extreme individualism
>individualism
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>>87439885
To be honest their romance was really cute.
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>>87440104
Being mind controlled into raping your crush by a parasitic alien cock is cute?
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>>87440104
That's what I'm talking about U.S.A. can't handle that kind of romance well.,Japan can make any kind of love cute.
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>>87440056
its funny you say that
everything i've watched for anime almost NEVER fucking has team fights, its always 1v1 because the situation calls for it.
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>>87439439
This a huge problems with US cape comics, most action sequences suck donkey balls.
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>>87440102
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>>87440102
He said what he really meant which is his issue with too much focus on the MC which he feels reduces it to standard Shonen shit.
I'm not sure if he used BnHA as an example though since the writer atleast tries to make it seem like more than punching solves the issue and while Deku is the MC the other characters definitely have their own drives while working together as a unit.
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>>87439378
There are 3 new chapters on sadpanda
With lots of fucking.
Literally the only case where an author releases his hidden porn stash.
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>>87439917
It is too late for me.
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>>87439720
in come the weebs
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>>87439363
better than ours half the time

>mha
>1pm
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>>87440150
that fucking ending...
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>>87439363
Better than a lot of american capes.

They've done westerns pretty brilliantly too, pic related is a one-shot called Emerald and I recommend it to anyone here.
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>>87440191
I don't know when a splash page of two guys floating in the air pretending to punch each other became an acceptable substitute for actual fight choreography but that shit has got to stop.
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>>87440231
Used BnHA simply because its the Japanese hero themed manga I enjoy more. But it has the very same flaw. As you say, at least it tries to look like there is some teamwork, but in the end not much more than other battle shounens.

Then again, not saying that is something bad, only saying it (Japanese cape in general) feels like other manga, they never feel like comics.
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>>87439363
Japan has the advantage of a /slightly/ more creator-friendly industry, so while they've still got a lot of problems to deal with they don't have to shorten or edit their storylines to fit into whatever event comic or crossover is coming up next, and the shonen-jump anthology mags mean they don't need to constantly generate controversy with idiotic stunts like Hydra Cap to boost individual title sales. Overall it's a lot more focused storywise.

Also you don't have to worry about the artstyle on the book changing.
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>>87439363
can sentai be considered cape thing?
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>>87440191
>>87440432
Thing is when you don't get many revelations in an issue, you got many people around here complaining that the story is too decompressed.
And a fight takes a few pages at least to be done well.

20 something pages a month are not enough to tell a story and make great fight scenes. In American comics, they choose to hurt the fight scene rather than simplifying the (not very complicated) story.
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Did somebody watch this?
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>>87439524
>the manga was axed
Ah fuck. How many chapters were released? I was legit hype for this series to take off and eventually get animated.
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>>87439471
>Boku no Naruto that saw the avengers on cinemas Academy
The author is a smart dude, shitty ass manga but thanks to the capeshit popularity it's doing so well.

Probably thinks CW2 is the best thing ever.
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>>87440413
I liked it.
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>>87439708
I'd say he's right at home.
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>>87439758
>it will never be translated
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>>87439758
>>87440642

If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's been translated for like a decade and it's fucking amazing.

Can't remember the author name but his stuff is always solid.
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>>87439708
>>87439708
He isn't wrong. Though its sexist to both genders. The men are bland textureless losers with no strong opinions, the women are generically nice damsels in distess that jump on your dick if you white knight them hard enough.

The only interesting characters are side characters, and they never get any focus.
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>>87439524

Not really. They were selling the porn versions at the same time.
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>>87440642

There have been a few in that series and they've all been translated.

Learn to sadpanda.
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>>87440413
True love can beat anything?.
Also she can have babies with her waifu thanks to her powers.
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>>87440751
>Learn to sadpanda.
Where do you think I got these reaction images from? Believe me I looked and this doujin I'm posting isn't translated.
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>>87440553
Better than almost anything being put by Marvel and DC, including Young Animal and Future Quest tho.
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Everyone talking is talking about stuff like Boku and OPM, but is no one going to mention manga like Zetman and Guyver?
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>>87440828
Then put up a bounty for it
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Interesting interpretations of characters that could easily be canon
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>>87440828
>>87440642

Here you go, same premise but almost certainly much better:

https://exhentai.org/g/264306/6daeee7bab/
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>>87440473
Scarfshit
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>>87440890
>100 year old virgin

Every time.
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>>87440892
Yeah that one is a classic.
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>>87440890
>Carol Denver
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>>87440721
>>87440579
GAYS.
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>>87440981
Japan knows what people want,they don't care about SJW they shit on them.
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>>87440545
It is completly translated, it was "Axed" but author had time to finish the story. In a rushed way cause it was axed, but at least he could finish, is not one of those sudden cancellations where story just stops, he was given enough chapters to finish.

>>87440732
Sure? I think in Japan the last chapter was already out when the first doujin came out. I could be wrong, but I remember seeing the dates and doujins came later.
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>>87441047
>Japan knows what people want,they don't care about SJW they shit on them.

*Japan knows what people want, they don't care about SJW, they shit on them.
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>>87440852
Zetman was something that should never be even mentioned. There is only one worse thing than Zetman and that is Zetman anime.
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>>87441054
SEE? I'm right.
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>>87440528
I did. I really enjoyed Samurai Flamenco. Too bad the low sales killed the studio.
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>>87441155
I enjoyed the ballbusting,that turns me on.
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>>87440852
Guyver was pretty fun, but I haven't read the manga yet.
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>>87439363
They always do it.
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>>87439471
He is also a massive westaboo
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>>87440473
When you say "Sentai" do you mean Super Sentai or just Japanese live-action superheroes in general?
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How does /co/ feel about Japanese artists working for DC Comics? For example, the artist of pic related, Ricken, now works for DC Comics.
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>>87441201
Is it irony that the anime/manga scene supported Marvel the most, and yet Marvel has turned away completely from fanservice, something that anime/manga still fully embraces?
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>>87440565
>>87440812

what the hell are you talking about? scarlet order ending was a disaster.
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>>87441222
>How does /co/ feel about Japanese artists working for DC Comics?
I fully support it. I love Ricken.
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>>87439363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTxmgL4RmNE
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What capeshit has midget bullying?
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>>87441299
opm
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>>87439363
Lady Justice was full-on wasted potential despite having Stan; the one-shot was okay but the serialization was just clothing damage ecchi jokes

Haven't tried Heroman yet, despite having Stan too
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>>87440890
I love how japs really like Spidey. He really is a lovable hero
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>>87441239
>Is it irony that the anime/manga scene supported Marvel the most

Yeah, Marvel is the most referenced in anime/manga of the Big two, with few exceptions (Batman short anime) DC never made a big push in Japan like Marvel did.
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>>87441333
It's because of the tv series.
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On the good side they have far better fight choreography than 99% western cape stuff, there's tangible plot progression, way better fanservice, and more consistent characterization.

The bad side nowhere near enough art style diversity, they also have the everything happens in Tokyo problem, and it does tend the main character who does all the shit
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>>87441109
>>87441080
>>87441047
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Capeshit originates from:
-Boyscout morality (find people and help them)
-Traditions of vigilantism/citizen's arrest/self-defense and stand your ground laws
-High urban crime

None of which Japan has.

Instead, they have:
-Clan ties (family, workplace, government) not civic ties (anyone in front of you because of belief in equality)
-Absolute government authority in matters of crime
-Very few muggings or purse snatchings to activate their non-existant boyscout instincts; instead they have quasi-political gangs collecting taxes from businesses they run or blackmail.

Funnily enough, Japanese crime is just as centralised and collectivised as Japanese justice.

Not much room for caped crusaders.
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>>87441354
>>87441368

Marvel has made a big push in Japan at
least since the 70s.

There was Spidey manga and tv show, high quality Capcom games,..
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>>87441507
>high quality Capcom games,..

*high quality Capcom games...
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>>87441506
Are there any Japanese Superhero-style manga that does not automatically have a centralized authority governing over the superheroes?
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>>87441399
Japan is superior.
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>>87441535
Couldn't tell you.
But the gist of Japanese culture is that people work together and look after their own.
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>>87441507
Why DC never made something similar? I think they felt they didn't need it, DC had the 60s Batman show, Superfriends, the Superman movies, Batman movies,..

The only Japanese DC thing we got was few Batman Konami games, even the SNES/Genesis Justice League fighting game was done by western devs, Acclaim I think.
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>>87440890
>He's in a never-ending with a purple clown and a fat monocle man
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>>87441241
>what the hell are you talking about? scarlet order ending was a disaster.
Explain please?.
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>>87439363
the only good cape from japan is opm
everything else they tried was shit
but,opm still beats any comic,even if it is the only good japanese cape
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>>87439928
And the actual manga is now licensed so the fan translation are dead in the water.
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>>87441544
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>>87441631
Ummm, DC did something similar.

There was an entire fever called "Batmania" around Batman's presence in Japan, even a manga that was written and drawn by a Osamu Tezuka assistant (that eventually got an adaptation/parody in Brave and The Bold TV Series); this was mostly due to the Adam West series and the first Tim Burton movie basically airing at the same time in Japan.

Not to mention, Batman TAS had somewhat of an impact towards eastern animation; stuff like Big O, Lain, Cowboy Bebop and even Gen's writing on Psycho Pass had inspirational input from the series.
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>>87439363
So why do they have musclegirl upper bodies but really soft lower bodies?
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>>87439363
It's not actually /co/ so why did you make a thread about this here?
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>>87440259
...Translated?
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>>87440890
>100 year old virgin
Fucking hell.
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>>87442166
Because we still get "muh honorary /co/" posters who can't post their manga into the other "Japanese culture" boards and think /co/ is for "what /a/ does not want."
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>>87442118
The Adam West show and the Batmanga were both shown in Japan in the late 60's.
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>>87442118
>Lain

How did Batman: TAS influence Lain?
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>>87442133
fetish
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>>87441948
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>>87439466
>>87439514

This reminds me of that doujin with the elf that wants to get raped by a sensible orc
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>>87439363
Illustrations ruined cape stories and their storytelling
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>>87442488
>>87441544
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>>87442508
How is it rape if you beg for it?
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>>87442508
It's the same artist.
>>87442590
Rape fantasy
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>>87442590
Japan obviousy has a different concept of rape
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>>87439363
I love it

It combines my love for capes with the over-the-top, unapologetic sexuality of the japs

Plus OPM is probably the most Fuck Yeah show I've ever see

Sauce on that pic?
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>>87442598
The things I want to do to Mint.
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>>87442624
Lawfag here.
Please note this is a common law rule and is not applicable in all jurisdictions.
Please ask a local lawyer for advice before you engage in rape.
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>>87442577
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>>87439363
Those gooks sure know how to draw sexy women
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>>87439695
Mt. Lady is sexy and probablg my favorite side character in that show (giantess fetish) but "ass-quaintance" is barely a play on words and likely didnt make sense in Japanese either
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>>87439363
>>87439397
>>87439392
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>>87442725
They should have used some other wordplay for butt
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>The probably with US comics
Terrible action scenes
>Problem with Nihhin Mangoes
Usually garbage (like most manga since they're a dime a dozen), Terrible comedic timing, comic relief usually happens in the middle of a fight and its usually so a girl can freak out that you see up her skirt or someone grabbed her tits

One Punch Man is probably the best example of what both should strive to be. I fucking hate how 99.9999999% of manga is generic garbage
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>>87442628
that guy is also a pretty big fan of opm himself
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>>87442803
"Sorry to BUTT in" would have been cute and mildly funny
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>>87439397
No way.
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>>87442851
This makes me think. We had many boys super heroes, why so few little girl superheroes?
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>>87442925
Because that's weird
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>>87440890
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>>87442925
Because we don't have that many female supers with their own identity. Most child superheros are legacies and it's rare to see a young girl take up a male superhero's title. We need more female supers to become popular.
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>>87443602
>>87442925
Because america don't want us to fap.
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>>87440056
so say this like it is a problem solely based in Manga.
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>>87439363
Way better than USA cape shit, in fact I don't remember any ocidental comic about a girl take a giant alien dick and rape is mother in amazing ways
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Why is Japan so obsessed with dumb rankings? Both OPM and Hero Academia rank the top heroes arbitrarily.
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>>87444548
It helps with marketing. Little kids love buying merchandise of "the most powerful xxxx of them all!"
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>>87441176
It made me sick how best girl had a thing for worst girl.
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>>87439397
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>>87444732
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>>87444548
I'm sure it's mostly due to typical love for powerlevels, but it does add some dynamic to a lot of interactions when the characters know how they stand compared to each other.
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>>87444548
With OPM I get the impression it's commentary on this exact thing. ONE clearly has opinions about shonen manga.
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>>87440231
>the other characters definitely have their own drives while working together as a unit

Almost all shonen start like this, until they drop every character besides MC and maybe the rival, if he's lucky. Dragon Ball is to blame for it.
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>>87444800
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>>87440890
>Batman exiled Huntress from Gotham

What the fuck? When was Batman named King of Gotham?
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Just finished Ratman and it was great but never finished.

Part Time Job is "Evil Organization is another one with a similar premise.

Tiger and Bunny was good but never saw the movies
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>>87440093
Jesus, even Toei hates Goseiger
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>>87444732
>>87444800
>green hair
>purple hair
Which is it?
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>>87444548
We do it to, we just call it the A-list and on down.
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>>87440981
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>>87442628
Uchi no Musume ni Te o Dasu na!
https://exhentai.org/g/977023/73e1561c62/
It's a story about a supermilf who retired from being a cape only to find out that her daughter has taken up the mantle. What her daughter doesn't know is that the evil organization her mom (who she also doesn't know was a hero) used to fight was extremely rapey. So Supermilf goes back into caping on the downlow to try and keep her daughter from suffering the same creepy humiliations she used to have to deal with. As dumb as it sounds, it's actually a pretty fucking good story.
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>>87444993
I like Purple hair better.
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>>87445046
The time travel paradox with supermilfs husband was retarded, though.
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>>87439418
But they do everything better, as expected with self contained stories
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>>87444732
Dirty Akira Toriyama.
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>>87445073

It was pure cape comic stuff, dude.
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>>87441506
Dumbest post, unlike America they're not so autistic that they can't write about someplace they don't live
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>>87445023
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>>87441308
Lady Justice had lot of more issues, not just the ecchi thing. Problem was the setting, it just didn't make sense it was a paceful city with almost no crime where supervillains just pop out out of nowhere.

Heroman is fine as a far as a Mecha show is as long as you can deal with the extremly annoying main character shouting all the time. As superhero show...just doesn't work, is 100% mecha, the only hero stuff you will find on it is the title.
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>>87441188
Don't worry Anon, you've got plenty of time.
ITS NEVER GOING TO GET A FUCKING CONCLUSION!
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>>87440173
Reminds me of a page Kishiro did about how he had to fight his editor on having Alita's team mate to contribute during a fight because the editor thought it "lessened the impact" of her victory or some shit. In reality what it did was establish that guy as a badass that Alita needed help to take down.
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>>87445313
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>>87440259
>>87442236
2nd on that translation question
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>>87446044
I wish Ratman had a better artist and writer, because there was potential with that series.
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>>87446321
3 new "doujins" were released and yes they are translated.
#1 is a futa story where you find out Super MILF is pregnant: https://exhentai.org/g/992009/c24c1fbc5d/
#2 is lesbian antics with futa: https://exhentai.org/g/992013/ddec0ac8b4/
#3 is more lesbian antics with a dildo and some pegging: https://exhentai.org/g/992015/218901b648/
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>>87446586
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>>87446044
Since the Lady Justice mangaka blew his debut series, will he ever get another chance? Too bad, I liked the art.

Also I could swear he's done lewds like many aspiring mainstream mangaka but I can't put my finger on a name
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>>87440890
Can you provide a sadpanda link? The file search sucks as always
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>>87442508
That's because its basically the same thing from the same artis but with super heroes
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>>87439363


I think "more please"
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>>87441176
>when a show panders to your fetish
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>>87446586
This kek is infinity anon
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>>87442612
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>>87446835
https://exhentai.org/g/532343/ef5d481ea1/
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>>87439524
Wasn't axed. Released 19 chapters that fully told a nice time travel story, with three additional doujins about the daughter getting gangraped by a space alien that made her lesbian waifu a penis, and then as a parasite tried to make her fuck her mother too. Turns out her mom was pregnant and the whole series ends with nice few pages of the mom with the younger loli daughter fighting crime, while the older daughter went to be a queen.

Pretty good series, didn't overcomplicate shit, and the premise was fun. Sadly, for now only 15 chapters out of 19 were translated, so you gotta wait for the last 4.
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>>87447347
Source
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>>87447528
Is there any chance it'll get released in the west like Dance in the Vampire Bund?
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>>87447347
s-sauce...?
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>>87440890
>She acts like a mature woman. Tits!
I'm fucking finished
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>>87444548

Japan is very obsessed with order and the social standing of every individual.

On OPM at least the idea of rankings is toyed with, the MC it's the most broken and has no ranking because he didn't bother registering himself and #1 is a fake
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>>87447426
Thanks
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>>87447692
You mean #3 is fake #1 hasn't been revealed yet.
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>>87447627
This I do not know, friendo - got my translation of the last few chapters kinda written out by a friend from Japan, so I have no idea what USA is planning.
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>>87440890
>>87447426
5/5
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>>87447940
>you were supposed to rape the Joker
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>>87447528
>few pages of the mom with the younger loli daughter fighting crime, while the older daughter went to be a queen.

What? I don't remember that happening in any of the books.

In which one was that?
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>>87448010
Loli daughter was saved by her dad, who got sucked into another dimension instead. Mom later gets captured too, dad from the inside helps together to get her out, but I think he's stuck there (since he was OP as fuck anyways).

Daughter became the new queen, MILF and loli are now fighting crime together.
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>>87447988
I knew it was coming but i still lost it
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>>87447528
>Pretty good series, didn't overcomplicate shit, and the premise was fun. Sadly, for now only 15 chapters out of 19 were translated, so you gotta wait for the last 4.
It may be a LONG wait, the guys who were doing it, may be dropping it, due to licensing.
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>>87439397
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>>87439466
You seem to have misspelled Stopman.
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>>87446191
Pretty much this.

It's fun as heck though. And the 2005 anime is kinda decent (has some shit action scenes though...)
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>>87448744
Guyver also has extremely fucking defensive fans who will take down any DL of the current volumes because they're kind of psychotic and think that every part of the world has access to physical copies Guyver translated in their language.
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>>87440432
To be fair, A splash page can be very cool when you're looking around it to see what everyone is doing in the chaos of that moment. I can appreciate them from an artistic standpoint. The problem is when they do them all the fucking time and shove as much laziness as possible into doing it. If it's not busy as hell then there's no advantage to having it over making the focus a single panel or two if we're stretching things.
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>>87440150
I think the USA can handle romance well considering it used to be a major genre in the past. The major problem nowadays is that the people fighting waifuwars have the ability to rise to power and do battle at a higher plane of existence. (As employees of the actual companies themselves)
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>>87441299
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>>87447629
>>87447596
Ai Uehara
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46 years later and there is not a single villain comic book better than alabaster

why american comics are so shit?
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>>87439363
I like how Hero Academia is preparing to pull an Ultimate Spiderman with Toga pretending to be Deku.
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>>87445118
Self-contained=2+ decades to end.
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>>87441948
That flat is amazing.
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>>87445118
this
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>>87440150
I seriously hope you're trolling using that example. Japan makes the worst fucking romances.
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>>87440056
None of what you've said sounds exclusive to Japanese cape stuff.
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>>87450191
The things going on in Hibike! is far superior to any sort of cape or cartoon romances.

Marvel being especially bad as always.
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>>87442813
>One Punch Man is probably the best example of what both should strive to be.
>Actually has the gall to call anything generic
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>>87444888
>Dragon Ball is to blame for it
Trend predates Dragon Ball.

>>87450245
Its not a issue exclusive to Japan, but Japan is a country where you can have a Squad manga, only for the Main Character to abnormally grow in power in each volume, until everyone but the Main Character is background props.

Western stuff tend to do it the opposite: Where characters start out as flying bricks, and are eventually humbled by crossovers.
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>>87439418
the japs are way better doing cape stuff anon
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>>87439835
Did she hook up with the bondage-powered friend?
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>>87439471
Man that's just bad.

Ok let me rephrase, it's not bad but it's generic as fuck. Really it's just a generic battle shonen manga that has superheroes but it doesn't even do anything unique with the heroes or the setting or the system, it just has tournament and training arcs, the academy thing is boring as fuck too.

Seriously there are just so much better shonen manga running right now, you just need to look for them

>>87441354
That's because of spider-man
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>>87444548
Tiger and Bunny did this too. In that case it was justified as the heroic exploits were filmed as a reality show with scoring.
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>>87447075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQqdSZ5rhwk
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>>87449969
Small Flat chested girls are the best kind of girls,Anon.
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>>87451070
>>87447075
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>>87450410
Why don't you start reading more manga instead of saying that everything is the same?
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>>87450869

Let me guess your stuck waiting for the next chapter of Hunter x Hunter
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>>87440852
Isn't Guyver still running, going on nearly 30 years?
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I should probably finish reading Tokyo ESP at some point. The longer it went on, the more it turned into an X-Men AU.

Too bad the anime was total crap and flopped.
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>>87450963
wew
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>>87450245
Never said is an issue of Japanese manga only, I said that in comics doesn't happen that much, or at least in the comics I read the hero trends to come with a plan, of come with the help of others or defeat the boss beween everyone while Japan stuff imitatin cape trends to go more for the 1v1 battle.

No plan no teamwork involved at all, just MC determination and/or hidden power...which once again, I admit it has its own charm and its intertaining in its own way but is radically different to actual cape even if they try to imitate it.
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>>87452264
Won't spoil you anything but the manga loses its way too. It happens to all the works of that author.
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>>87440890

>Chiba Darou did official Marvel art for sone of their covers.

Beautiful.
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>>87441507
Ah yes who could forget suffering man
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>>87452456
Oh I got over fridge-chan. The slave fights arc was pretty fun (though it seemed like mostly an excuse to draw Rinka in lingerie all the time).

But after that I lost interest again.
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>>87439363

Charming. Characters are much prettier, both sexes. Great fight scenes. Often a bit on the shallow side, and many of the characters end up being jokes.
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>>87442509
God dammit why is Worm so good
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>>87452399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovZxnUgsHxE
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>>87449806

Is Alabaster a good read Anon?
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The short answer? They do it far better, bring out issues and episodes far quicker and overall have better design, ideas, and thought process and don't stick to the same characters for almost a 100 years
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>>87453990
its up to you to decide.

But it is a wild ride, that is for sure.
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>>87448943
>and think that every part of the world has access to physical copies Guyver translated in their language.

No how it works is that they demand you buy the originals in Japanese and if you prove it they will send you translated scans that are watermarked with your personal info on them. They watermark them so that if anyone releases their scans to the public they'll know exactly who it was and will cut them off and blacklist them from getting any more.
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>>87447627
https://www.otakustudy.com/manga/2016/10/seven-seas-acquire-nozomu-tamakis-superhero-manga-dont-meddle-daughter/
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>>87454202
Why couldn't they wait until January, or at least december...
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>>87440890
>Black Cat NTRs every other woman
I like the sound of that. Reminds me of that Catsuit story.
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Better than anything the big 2 shits out.
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>>87450410
>only for the Main Character to abnormally grow in power in each volume, until everyone but the Main Character is background props.
Soul Eater though
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>>87450410
>but Japan is a country where you can have a Squad manga, only for the Main Character to abnormally grow in power in each volume, until everyone but the Main Character is background props.
In the west we call this "Batwank".
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>>87440056
Surely you're not talking about Boku.
Every arc has a major tide-turning team-up moment.
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>>87447988
kek
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>>87441506
Or maybe Japan has its own traditions in fiction, such as super sentai, and the American caped crusader tradition isn't the only valid one.
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way does /co/ have better anime talk than /a/
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So I read all 15 chapters.
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>>87455882
it doesn't desu
t. /a/non
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>>87455882
It's the trade off for us being shit at discussing comics and cartoons
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>>87455992
me too i hate it there
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>>87455882
Because /a/ only talks about moeshit slice of life anime.
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>>87455882
I go on /a/ to shitpost about stuff I haven't seen.
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>>87455882
Honestly most boards have better threads about a different board's subject. That's just sort of what happens when you've got less people who are knowledgeable/passionate enough to get overly fired up over little things. I've seen some great western cartoon discussion in /a/.

Although both /co/ and /a/ both still have certain posters who will show up to declare how either anime or cartoons are absolutely inferior while making it clear they only have surface-level knowledge of what they're shitting on.
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>>87456142
>I've seen some great western cartoon discussion in /a/.
When? Most /a/ posters are usually restricted to the more well known western cartoons desu
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>>87439363
Does Japan like western capeshit?
The only characters they like are spiderman and mutants, is there any othe western cape characters they like?
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>>87456161
That's kind of what makes them great. Just some people having light discussion on cartoons they really enjoy without much shitposting or anger. I mean it's not really in-depth but it's still pretty nice for a change.
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>>87446044
My biggest problem with Lady Justice was that the main character was the generic fucker from the last panel of your pic instead of the actual goddamned super hero.
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>>87439720
I love One Punch Man, but even I have to admit that the concept is far more interesting than the execution.
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>>87456184
They like a lot of Marvel. Obviously Spiderman, but they also seem to really like the Avengers in general and Deadpool. Also Batman.
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>>87455882
This is not untrue
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>>87455882
It doesn't really.
The whole "boards discuss other topics better" meme is because threads about their actual topics tend to be either for the initiated or inundated in board culture. When you're just a casual looking to shoot the shit it can be intimidating especially on 4chan which is comfortable telling you to fuck off for not knowing how to do things their way. So when you take topics off board you have likeminded people closer to your level. So you can actually talk with people about it, whereas before you couldn't understand shit. So the conversations aren't actually better but you're actually stimulated by them because you can participate and sometimes even learn some new stuff.
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>>87442509

Fucking Eidolon....
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>>87456228

So japs are normies basically?
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>>87439363
>>87439363
So apparently her husband is his own father or something.
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>>87456222
So far the execution is pretty sound. Granted, to keep it good, they focus on the other heroes a lot more so that when OPM does come in it's the


Punch line
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>>87440852
Devilman /Lady, Casshan, Tekkaman, Gatchaman, Yatterman are also worth mentioning
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>>87456291
>2 million dollar budget
What? I assumed that the Berserk anime was done under harsh budgetary constraints, but that shit was actually a stylistic choice?
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>>87456291
>That Berserk
It hurts me physically.
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>>87439363
Huh so this is what Loli Bund's mangaka been up to. Though I hope he picks back up Loli Bund later.
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>>87439363
They are starting to supass us.
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>>87456291
Both are horribly animated but RWBY has the excuse of being a low budget web show.
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>>87457367
Would you fug the frog? I would, gravity girl too.
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>>87450191
Well i think manga has alot more good romances than anime most of time
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>>87456088
But SOL is great when it is done right
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>>87455882
Not really you can have great anime talk in /a/ too sometimes.
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>>87440420
Fucking stellar example
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>>87454428
Batman or Captain America being useful at all is something very Western. Writers go out of their way to give every hero, Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, their own part. Even Aquaman at his most heavily butchered in Superfriends doesn't really compare with what occurred with the human Z-fighters or most of Naruto's cast; writers actually went out of their way to contrive situations for him after nerfing the character, while Super needed a character who knew Mafuba (Tien) but just had the MC learn it.
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>>87458122
you are missing an E there, buddy
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Well I like how in Boku no hero academy All Might is the personification of the western cape ideals coming to japan, and the main character is the one to receive those ideals and make it his own. In a kind of Captain America origin story.

What I really wish the manga would do is elaborate the insinuations that many "heroes" in its world are actually corrupt. The manga said that crime is low in the poor areas as there is no fame to be won by the heroes and that perhaps even heroes intentionally let some crime slide so they will always have work. It was when Deku went to see All Might's old teacher.

Why can't we be shown the corruption in society? Not one mentally ill guy hunting heroes just magically change public opinion.
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I feel like we have this same thread every once and a while, and the conclusion always seems to be manga > comics.
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>>87458148
I would fug every girl in that manga.
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>>87439672
>>87439818
>>87442598
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAAAAAAACE?
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>>87439720
I like OPM, but Mob Psycho is way better on almost all fronts. OPM has kind of gone to shit with the pacing at this point and to some extent became the very thing it went out to parody.
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>>87453990
I would say so, far from Tezuka best, but it was entraining.
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>>87449854
>MC is constantly getting fucked up and injured
>villainess has a ryona fetish
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>>87445073
Nigga, the whole manga is retarded. It's literally just borderline hentai with capeshit.
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>>87459679
>MC is constantly getting fucked up and injured
Am I the only one that doesn't like this with its frequency? Generally when it comes to protagonists, I want them to be competent (the type that walk away from an explosion like a bad ass). Not constantly getting fucked up. I can understand the conflict factor , certainly - amazing power, but not strong enough to handle it.. That's cool, it's INTERESTING and dynamic, but I can't help but want, well not OPM, but just some progress.

For real though, Deku getting battle damaged is cool, but I'm still waiting for him to start throwing down and getting some durability. Also, his being so nice to 'Kacchan' is fucking infuriating.

I really want him to grow some balls.
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>>87459727
Considering he used to basically blow up his arm every time he used his powers before, he's definitely getting more durable.
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>>87459770
True, but having him end up in the med-wing so often reminds me of Harry Potter. Who,many people feel as a protagonist, was underwhelming in hindsight. I don't mind since he is getting better, but the parallel irks me.

Also to be totally honest the last chapter I read was after they lost that round with the tie thing by a ball hair's length. Shit was so close and I was like, "Oh come on!"
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>>87459524
even recovery girl?
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What's with all the /a/ threads on /co/ lately?
Not complaining mind you, anime has always been more fun to discuss here.
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>>87458913
>Why can't we be shown the corruption in society? Not one mentally ill guy hunting heroes just magically change public opinion.
That's kind of what Vigilantes is for. Two issues in and they did MGH drug dealers. Shame it's on hiatus tho.
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>>87460543
>Shame it's on hiatus tho
Why would it go on hiatus when it's only had one issue so far?
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>>87439363
>tiny hands
>my hands are huge
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>>87460490
Especially recovery girl.
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>>87450869
Generic does not mean bad, execution is what matters and it handles stuff better than any shonenshit for a while
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>>87439363
I love this thing from Q Hayashida, so there's that
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>>87457367
Boku no Hero has everything I like on paper, but I just couldn't really get into the manga (or the anime when that came out). Same thing happened with Captain Earth. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mood for it and should try it again sometime later
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>>87456812
Budget doesn't automatically translate into quality, just knowing about Hollywood should be enough to know that.

The director's biggest accomplishment before taking on Berserk 2016 was Teekyuu, which should explain why he was not a very good fit. Or maybe it was just all a laundering front to wash some yakuza money
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You have 5 seconds to name a cuter heroine than Froppy. Protip: you can't.
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>>87460930
her power is being best mom
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>>87460609
It had two.
It's on hiatus because the magazine it was being published in got cancelled. Originally it looked like this meant Vigilantes was gonna die a premature death but apparently it's being transferred over to another magazine instead in a couple months, which means hiatus.
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>>87460950
But Bakugou's mom is the superior mom
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>>87461073
She isn't pure
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>>87461084
Implying she needs to be pure with a rack like hers
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>>87460930
Froppy can't compete with GravityTits.
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>>87457367
>guy has super strength
>and literally only super strength

I love it. Like, even when he jumps at high speeds, he fucking breaks his legs. How much force do you have to put into that jump to break them?
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>>87461144
>Enemy has shock absorption
>Just punch it harder and a lot
How can anyone not love All-might?
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This was a shockingly good read.

Shame it was cut short.
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I love /a/ threads on /co/.
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name a superior western superhero show
protip you cant
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>Japanese actually think that insects fight for justice and are the good guys
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>>87461185
I love all the teachers and adults in BNHA
I find the kids generally boring and unlikable.

I'd much prefer a adult based superhero show but I guess that's more or less asking for All Might to be in OPM
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>>87452618
I like those supercostumes, it remembers me the Xtreme 90s style
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>>87461779
Most of the time the good guys don't wear any costumes (with exception of Crow guy), partly due to the fact that the main heroine is dirt poor.

But in that case she's infiltrating a sleazy underground slave fighting ring, in which everyone wears outlandish costumes or in case of the women sexy lingerie.
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>>87461252
Kamen Rider was made by the bad guys though. Then the bug motif kinda stuck with the later ones, both the ones that also escaped bad guy-ness and the ones that didn't.
And most of the more recent ones aren't bugs beyond having those big eyes.
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>>87460920
>Budget doesn't automatically translate into quality
Ask nº9
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This one was basically a super hero show. You guys should check it.

The games were shit, but the anime was pretty nice. It's pretty much Spiderman, but with Megaman Theme
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>>87447528
Oh jesus
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I think they are pretty ok, I wish there was more exploration of their version of the genre.
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>>87461226
/a/ threads on /co/ suck because no one ever actually talks about good anime.
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>>87463038
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>>87463105
Ex-Aid looks like the silliest damn thing but the show's been pretty cool so far. Then again it's only been five episodes.
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>>87463046
Okay, senpai. Who is your favorite Keion?
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>>87463046
Well, we can only talk about /a/ /co/ related stuff after all. And none of them are specially good
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>>87463046
Why would I want to talk about western properties in /a/? Ergo, why would you want to talk about anime in /co? I know /a/ can be shit, but there are plenty of places you can post anything remotely anime in 4chan, hell the internet. But how many places lets you post about western cartoons and comics without it being a post count and karma whoring shithole without anonymity?
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>>87460502
"I know it is not /co/, but..."
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>>87456427
...is not a good idea. I heard he is pretty ugly
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>>87463307
Mugi or ritsu
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>>87449854
The dark age is comming...with yanderes psychos
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>>87463046
>/a/ threads on /co/ suck because no one ever actually talks about moeshit anime.*
This is what you mean
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>>87462879
Fuck you starforce 1 was fun, I do agree that starforce 2 was shit with it's god awful encounter rate, but starforce 3 was GOAT it was at the very least a solid 8/10.
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>>87440553
I recall the author being a huge fan of silver age comics, actually.
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I wish more of you had seen Gatchaman. The actual Gatchaman, not G-Force or whatever.

Imagine a whole Power Ranger team of teenage Batmans with a combining jet that fight and kill mooks who are specifically stated to be regular humans who joined the bad guys of their own will. With surprisingly good over-arcing character development for a MotW series, themes of morality and environmentalism that don't feel too hamfisted, some legitimately engrossing drama, and an episode where some woman carves Jesus's head into the side of Mount Rushmore and the bad guys transform it into a giant robot lava Jesus monster. And striped parachute pants.
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I think when they do capes it always turns out more interesting than anything America does, especially in the way the existence of superheros changes the structure of society.

Tiger and Bunny, One Punch Man, My Hero Academia, for example, all have worlds that are completely different thanks to the existence of superheroes and villians, and while this may be an oversimplification, I look at western cape comics and it's mostly just the world as it is, with superheroes and villains in it.
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>>87440553
He seems to like marvel in general, but he really seems to like spidey.
He has like a table full with marvel action figures, but most of them are figures of spidey stuff.
I think he also said that one of his favorite movies were the Sam Raimi spiderman moves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gnzde1hjqw
You can see his collection at his workplace here, about 2 minutes in.
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>>87439363
They don't get it.

I mean they get the cosmic stuff.

But they don't seem to get street crime.
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Does Japan understand evil?

Cause so many of their bad guys are like Geoff Johns bad guys. Hollow, antiheroes waiting to be turned right.

Could Japan create a Joker? A Lex Luthor? A Darkseid? A Thanos? A Venom?
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>>87439471

i started reading this, i every chapter it got, it belongs to look alike to Naruto more and more, you know it gonna turn semi-gods teens fighting to avoid rule domination of alien bunnies

isn't it?
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It's like spiderman


But with 30000x more suffering

It's great
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>>87465540
>Cause so many of their bad guys are like Geoff Johns bad guys. Hollow, antiheroes waiting to be turned right.

>I watched Bleach once I know anime lol.

Yeah it's not like plebs have made a forced meme out of a series with a villain who is expressively shown and said to have been pure evil and greed from the day he was born.
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>>87465540
>I've never read good manga the post
Also, half the guys you listed there are just "hurr durr destroy everything, conquer all" which is just as generic, if not worst
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>>87465540
>Could Japan create a Joker?
They already did
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>>87465540
>Could Japan create a Joker? A Lex Luthor? A Darkseid? A Thanos? A Venom?
Just looking at shounen shit, are pretty much all of DBZ's villains' motivation simply "I like conquering/destroying planets."?
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>>87464893
>moeshit
>>>/out/
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Is Cutey Honey a cape?
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>>87465442
Really?

Because between One Punch Man, Boku no Hero, and Samurai Flamenco it sure seems like they get it a hell of a lot better than the west does in recent years.
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>>87465540
Have you never watched/read DB or something?
I don't think any villain from Z, with the exception of Vegeta turned good.
Hell even the current villain is an omnicidal maniac, that is beyond redemption.
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>>87465863
Well she's naked half the time, so yes
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>>87465977
Does that make Kekko Kamen even more of a cape?
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>>87439363
To be quite honest, I'm enjoying Boku no Hero Academia a hell of a lot more then pretty much anything in Marvel's entire line at present.
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>>87465739
Moeshit and Otakus ruined anime though
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>>87466264
So anime has been dead since the 70's or so?
Because the concept of anime otaku can be traced that far back. I've even seen it parodied at least once in 78. And then there was the lolicon boom in the 80's. And shit has pretty much always been merchandise driven due to the economics of Japanese television.

Stop pretending you know your animu history.
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>>87466028
I like it a lot too, I am quite interested where they go from here, because it's biggest weakness was that the maincast were still trainees at school and it was still illegal for them to use their powers without supervision.
So the only way the cast could get some action was either by training, a tournament or a suprise villain attack which was getting a bit old.
Now that they have a semi-license it opens up a lot of possiblities with what the author can dowith the cast, since now they can actually use their powers without having to get permission or get into trouble for using it.
I personally hope that it will kinda go like young justice where they will go on missions in teams, so that way everyone can get some spotlight.
The author has now much more freedom with what he can do with the story and I am really excited to see where will go from here.
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Blue Rose is a the best heroine in New York, Marvel girls need not apply.
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What the Japanese think of the Iron Man movies?
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>>87465540
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>>87466429
They seem to like the MCU in general
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>>87466478
Managed to nearly to destroy most of human civilization before she had finished high school. What have you done with your life?
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>>87465540
Literally every villain in the first five parts of Jojo is straight up evil ranging from murdering dogs to eating people to killing bitches and keeping their hands in his pockets.

The villains in six and seven are a little more complex, but still stone cold evil motherfuckers, just convinced they're doing the right thing.

I suggest you read more manga.
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>>87465540
Well Hellsing the villains were jingoistic vampire nazis
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>>87465540
DBZ people want to blow up the earth because why not, FMA literal embodiments of sins are trying to genocide a country so daddy become God, Erased had a child serial killer and Naruto had ninja Mengele perform experiments on children on got away with it
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>>87466523
Fap to her 12 times in a row.
In less than 5 hours.
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>>87466332
But moeshit was niche up until 2007 when you know what came out and then it basically killed anime.
/a/ only cares about these anime because anything with actual plot or strong well written characters intimidates them.
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>>87466670
>Naruto had ninja Mengele perform experiments on children on got away with it

After directly helping save the world, five ninja presidents, saving the life of the other ninja jesus, and he's under surveillance forever
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>>87466723
>/a/ only cares about these anime because anything with actual plot or strong well written characters intimidates them.
That's not true and you know it.
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>>87465402
Also the main villain is sometimes a woman. Not "a woman takes up his mantle" or "androgynous dude who sometimes wears girly disguises", I mean he physically turns into a woman periodically. It's a medical condition.
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>>87466759
Ok I was memeing but looking at the front page at any time to see its mostly moe sol.
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>>87466759
Yeah, man. I'm pretty half the franchises mentioned in this thread have a thread on /a/ right now. It sure as Hell ain't /co/, even in the "people on /a/ don't want it there" sense.
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>>87466723
Yeah but nowdays it is isekai that is popular. Anime was never good anyway and you think /co/ is any better?
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>>87467024
No. But /co/ talks about action anime that isn't lowkey otaku pandering haremshit or creepy moe anime made to appeal to 30-40 year old NEETs.
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>>87466814
Well /co/ has more normalfags and normalfags dont need escapism. /a/ can have good dicussion like in 91 days
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>>87465402
>The actual Gatchaman, not G-Force or whatever.
There is any differences? I watched G-force on TV lot of times when I was a kid, there is any difference with Gatchaman? Something Like Macross-Robotech you mean?

I always thought "Comando G" (was called like that around here) was just Gatchaman
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>>87467072
Dude /a/ had Fist of the north star thread few weeks ago. Just because it doesnt have threads every week doesnt mean /a/ hates it
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>>87467126
Huh. Guess I should give the /a/utists a chance. Maybe they're not all bad.
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>>87465402
Never seen Gatchaman, but I fucking LOVE the designs of the team. Always have. They look superheroic as fuck and are actually brilliantly designed. And yes, I know that Yoshitaka Amano did them.

I heard Gatchaman Crowds is supposed to be really good, but I really wish there were a modern update that were more true to the original.
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>>87467072
>>87467156
/a/ is one of the fastest moving boards and they have new stuff constantly to talk bout, just make use of the catalog and it's easy to find what you want.
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>ctrl+f "keyman"
>0 results
What the fuck are you doing /co/?
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>>87465540
It's the opposite problem if you ask me. From what I can tell, because they were shown mercy at the end of WWII they are far more willing to let the more evil acts of villainy get a slap on the wrist and anyone that is not accepting of the genocidal maniac is usually in the wrong.
They might be more willing to kill during battle but after it or a misc atrocity is done the idea of punishment completely vanishes.
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>>87465402
>I wish more of you had seen Gatchaman
Gatcha-fan reporting in.

>And striped parachute pants
Those are bellbottoms, parachute pants were 80s.
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>>87460502
After a brief perusing of the catalogue, I'm left to think it's cause some people actually wanna have discussions about things and not just pointless bitchfests, strange as that is.
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>>87458913
with all might out, the crime rate will be high
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>>87467331
My nigga!
Though it's not really hero. Shit is very fucking dark.
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>>87442725
Shiri-ai (知り合い) is acquaintance.
Shiri (尻) is butt.

Not sure exactly how the line is said, but the pun works well(in Japanese)
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>>87439363
This is a cape.
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>>87466404
Shame she'll never get that DILF dicking.
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>>87471721
>>87445118
>self contained stories
>And japanese stories END rather than being rebooted 6 million times

This is really the advantage I feel, the writer or writers focus on making 1 good story and don't have to worry about what people have done before or will do after, they just focus on making it as enjoyable as they can.

Also this is why there's so many new shows rather then the same 10 getting renewed indefinitely for 100 seasons.
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Help me /co/, I think I'm falling in love with Hellish Blizzard.
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>>87439363
Why are there arms so scrawny? is it the suits?
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>>87462193
>>87461252
When choosing the final design, he put a few drawings in front of his five-year-old son to pick. The bug-man one was the design chosen.
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>>87471858
What a horrible fate!
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>>87471721
1) There are good cape comics with endings, take Starman, Zot! or Watchmen for example
2) You might want to read more than capeshit before posting here, unless you are a /tv/ shitposter, if that's the case please go away
3) You're seriously fucking deluded if you think that shonen shit is better than capes, you're taking manga as a whole, but that's really fucking unfair, cherrypicking is easy, I can do it too, also, if you think that One Punch Man, Boku No Hero Academy, Tiger & Bunny or other japanese superheroes are better than recent cape comics such as King's Vision, Lemire's Animal Man or Grant Morrison shit than you are seriously fucking stupid too.

TL;DR
Read and lurk more before posting, weeaboo
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>>87467107
G-Force/Battle of the Planets/Eagle Riders changed around a lot of stuff like the transition from Junpei talking normally to Kiyops making nonsense noises, some personality traits, how the villains worked, etc.
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>>87471721
>And japanese stories END
Yeah, after 80-100+ volumes
inb4 Blah blah, not all manga is shonenshit, blah blah blah
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>>87441051
>It is completly translated
Wait, what? Since when? I've only seen translated scans go up to chapter four.
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>>87471981
It's true, though. Shonenshit that lasts for over a decade is exceedingly rare.
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>>87472027
The entire thing is translated, yes.
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>>87471721
Right One Piece and Berserk going on for 30 years is definitely superior to rebooting
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>>87472181
Don't fall for the bait. It's just different forms of storytelling.
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>>87472039
I only know it through Yuri Doujins.
Those are nice.
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>>87459896
Deku's all bout kicks now. He can't fuck up his arms any more or else they can't recover ever again/
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>>87472039
Raildex is what happens when X Men and Harry Potter have a baby
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>>87459896
froppy has camouflage powers now, thanks to embracing her frogginess more than ever before
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I love how they treat the asshole, like an asshole and it makes him not get his license in bnha.
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>>87460950
>>87461084
She aged terribly
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>>87458148
I would let her eat my ass to oblivion
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>>87472725
Hori said she felt guilty and stressed about Deku and raising him alone that it caused her to overeat
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>>87472725
She was skinny in the anime for a while but suddenly got fat, it was a bit weird.
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>>87472848
She was only skinny when Deku was young, she became fat due to stress eating, because she was basically raising a paraplegic by their worlds standards on her own.
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Gatchaman Crowds is the probably the only time I've seen "superheroes battle real social issues" done in a non cringeworthy way in years.
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>>87439363
It could be worse. It could be without the porn.
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>>87447347
>Ai Uehara
Well, it's pretty similar except no sensible orc.
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>>87461144
It's actually a really complex power, but it basically only manifests in super strength. Which just makes it even better.
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>>87466541
>killing bitches and keeping their hands in his pocket
That's blowing it out of proportion, really he just wants to live a quiet life.
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>>87473123
It's also one of the few times where the ditz-is-actually-a-genius trope is pulled off well.
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>>87442509
>Illustrations ruined cape stories and their storytelling
Are you high? A visual format is the only one in which real cape stories work. It's no coincidence that the transition from pulp heroes to capes happened in conjunction with visual art.

All cape novels are adaptations, parodies, or shitty knock-offs.
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Medieval Ghost Rider was pretty good.

Couldn't get into the live action though.
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>>87440890
>tits!
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>>87474221
Toku > Anime
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>>87473453
Too bad Berg Katz is so fucking annoying in it.
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>>87473515
Have you tried reading Soon I Will Be Invincible by Austin Grossman? It takes a few potshots at the genre here and there, but by and large it works on its own as a pretty good self-contained cape story.
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>>87473123
why does every modern anime look like shit now
what happened to all the good character designers of the 80s and 90s
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>>87476358
Yeah, well, he's Hajime's problem now.
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>>87472039
It went to total shit after New Testament
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>>87472039
No, I like that other magical index
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>>87440890

America's Symbol a virgin cuck white boy. Seems about right.
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>>87471721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU
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>>87471721
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>>87473123
>non crineworthy way
>Gatchaman Crowds

This is a fucking joke right? Has to be cause Gatchaman crowds is one of the most cringeworthy shows in the last decade. Complete trash honestly.
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>>87439471
I only watched the first T&B show, maybe I'll track down the rest. It was pretty good.
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>>87471962
I dont get why people even read shounen anyway. It is such shitty genre
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>>87476423
I miss noses too but times chances but atleast my waifu will never age
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>>87480186
The movies are good, the first is like the first ep with a new plot, and the second is set after season 2.
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>>87475212
The problem is trying to do superhero stuff on a tv budget. Hell, a Japanese TV budget. Their intentions are good but I just can't take it seriously, no matter how many flips the main character can do.

>>87476423
Like what? Gatchaman at least has a unique style.
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>>87481121
>taking superhero shows seriously

There's your problem.
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>>87481137
What I mean is that I can't suspend my disbelief or anything. I constantly get reminded that I'm watching a show that tries to do huge epic stuff but can barely afford crafts and services.
It's like Garth Merenghi's Darkplace without the self-awareness.
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>>87472045
Actually there is 15/19 chapters

>>87467331
Its quite /co/ like in some aspects, the style of some characters and some of the references, but is not really cape that is what we were discussing
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Tiger and Bunny is an excellent modern hero story.

At the very least the west needs to start doing new characters. Who the fuck gets excited for the latest reboot of some B lister that the big two shit out year after year.
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>>87461352
The difference being all might has a personality
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>>87473123

Wait, Gatchaman? Like "Battle of the planets" Gatchaman?
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>>87482379
Barely.
It's the same IP and there are certainly references to the older stuff, but CROWDS is its own beast entirely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAUNumO8K3A
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>>87459592

>OPM has kind of gone to shit with the pacing at this point and to some extent became the very thing it went out to parody.


t. secondary Murata-only fag
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>>87482937

It looks more like Persona than Gatchaman.
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>>87439363
I hate this image so goddamn much
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>>87466264
>>87466723
>moeshit
Does not exist.

>otaku
When Westerners talk about "otaku" they are talking about a figment of their imagination.

>>87467072
>lowkey otaku pandering haremshit or creepy moe anime made to appeal to 30-40 year old NEETs.
These things do not exist.

>>87476423
>why does every modern anime look like shit now
They don't. You're either retarded or repeating memes as if they were your own ideas (which also makes you retarded).
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>>87441354
Thats because since forever Marvel have sell itself into other media.

Why is most casual people more familiar with MArvel in general? Because all those 70s 80s and 90s animated cartoons.

May be the quality of the comics is inferior but there is no doubt they maketized themselves lot more and lot better than DC, that never gone anywhere outside of Batman and Sup.
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>>87483124
Why? Seems pretty normal to me
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>>87483232
Dancing around the issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoratio_elenchi
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>>87483302
What issue am I dancing around?
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>>87483232
Character designs today are fucking shit.
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>>87483088
What happened was basically this?
Creative Team: We have this neat idea for a show about superheroes and a society being overwhelmed by social media.
Producers: Fine, but you have to staple this old franchise to it for the sake of name recognition.

Only two of the heroes even have a bird motif going on, the rest are just things. Apart from BIRDO GO! and Berg Katze there is next to nothing connecting it to the old stuff.
Which annoyed oldfags to an incredible degree. It is however a very fun and even smart show.

I recommend giving it a watch, if only for Hajime's huge knockers.
But for the love of god, avoid the dub. I'm not always in the /a/ camp of subs before dubs. But the dub of Gatchaman Crowds will make your ears bleed.
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>>87483327
No they aren't.
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>>87483341
To be fair, manga character designs aren't, but anime character designs certainly suck, they simplify it as much as they can there is barelly shadows, noses are almost invisibles, faces are completly round and they set things in schools just so they don't have to draw different clothing.
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>>87441506
Some of the best Western and US police comics I've read were done by Europeans and Japs. The idea that you can't do a story or write in a style that didn't originate in your country is quite frankly ridiculous.
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>>87442925
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>>87473453
She was the main reason I stopped watching, couldn't stand her
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>>87452456
>It happens to all the works of that author.
Supposedly they crashed Ga Rei into the ground because they wanted to be a simple nobody manga author and it had instead garnered quite a following and fans and they absolutely couldn't handle the pressure of it.

>Inb4 yomi ;_;

If I see that fucking shit again when Ga Rei Zero wasn't the end of Yomi's story
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>>87483492
>they simplify it as much as they can
Character designs in anime are complex. If they simplified them as much as possible they'd look like Family Guy.

>faces are completly round
Yes, every anime is now K-On. And I see you're laboring under the impression, as so many people here are, that character design starts and ends with the face. As if clothing and hair don't exist or don't matter.

>they set things in schools just so they don't have to draw different clothing.
Most anime is adapted. If the originals are set in school then so is the anime. When characters are not in uniform you normally see them vary their clothing.
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>>87462027
>750 yen outfit.

And here I am wearing £60 jumpers.
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>>87468577
70s.
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>>87439363
It's either really, really good, or really, really bad.
...like everything Japan does.

They often give less of a fuck about being taken seriously, which usually works to the advantage of cape stories.
BnHA and OPM both were pretty legit. I also enjoy a handful of super-hero toku; various seasons of ultraman and kamen rider. Usually they're a bit much for me, but every now and again you get your Strongers and Ws and it's pretty legit.
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>>87465540
Definitely and have done so on plenty of occasions. Tokusatsu is full of such baddies.
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>>87483659
Most things are ok/average/mediocre.
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>>87460950
>>87461084

>pure
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>>87483728
DELETE THIS
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>>87473515
>All cape novels are adaptations, parodies, or shitty knock-offs
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>>87467107
>"Comando G"

We called it Fuerza G in Latin America. Was the Spaniard dub bad for its given time?
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>>87483748

You can't make me delete it.

You can't stop me from fapping to it.
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>>87483659
I'd say this is more a result of being creator-driven instead of shared-universe. With manga you can avoid the shit and stick to the good stuff, but Marvel/DC feel the need to mix the shit with the caviar.
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>>87483810
Almost all of the problems with the big two stem from this issue. Too many characters, too many plotlines, too much concern about canon and crossovers.
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>>87439363
Better than American attempts of doing manga shit
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>>87483855
Avatar, boondocks and voltron 2016 was pretty good, I am not sure if that counts as manga though.
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>>87483754
The spain dub was acceptable for the time.
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>>87483943
I'd say those were cartoons "inspired" by manga more than actually attempts of doing manga.

They weren't really trying to make a manga
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>>87439363
The author should be making more bubbly lolis. The way he makes the faces are the best.
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I just wish western capecomics could step up their art.

Sometimes they go extra detailed/realistic and it looks nice, but no matter what the fights always look pretty static and lacking memorable choreography, and since there's not much too look at they try to fill the pages with as much dialogue or narration as they can, but the end result only makes it more of a pain to red trough them.
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>>87483232
>moeshit doesn't exist
Holy denial Batman!!
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>>87484838
It isn't denial. There is no such thing as moeshit.
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>>87454171
>>87448943
Not like the scans are hard to get in the first place.
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>>87483640
Being a poorfag is what makes Rinko sympathetic. That and the fact that she takes her punches like a man.
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>>87484903
Holy fuck
Off the top of my head.
>K-on
>Lucky Star
>Squidgirl
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>>87485090
Those shows exist, but that does not mean "moeshit" does.
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>>87485136
>Moeshit exists
>"That doesn't prove moeshit exists!"

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. You do know the Japaneses themselves make fun of this shit, right?
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>>87485136
Except they do. They exist primarily to be "kawaii desu~" dumbass.
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>>87485173
Pointing at a random show and calling it moeshit doesn't prove moeshit exists.

>>87485187
>They exist primarily to be "kawaii desu~" dumbass.
This doesn't mean anything.
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>>They exist primarily to be "kawaii desu~" dumbass.
>This doesn't mean anything.
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>>87485278
Because it doesn't. You are spouting complete fucking gibberish. And of course you immediately fall back on accusing me of baiting like the moron you are.
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>>87485317
see >>87477999
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>>87485317
You are literally saying something isn't moeshit while confirming that they it is in fact moeshit by definition.
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>>87485366
What about it?
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>>87485374
There is no definition of moeshit. Nobody knows what it means. Because it doesn't mean anything.

Nearly all Western anime viewers are living in Plato's cave.
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>shonen is a genre
>moeshit is a genre

/co/ should stick to /co/ material
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>>87485460
Moeshit means stupid anime that exists primarily to be cute you absolute retard
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>>87485514
That doesn't mean anything. Again, complete gibberish.
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>>87485561
>water is wet
>THERES NO SUCH THING AS WATER
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>>87485598
There is no such thing as moeshit.
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>>87485380
>Read the filename.jpg
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>>87485627
I am not baiting. You are just a retard narcissist.
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>>87485614
But there's such thing as moe anon. Why are you being this delusional?
>>87485495
Excuse us Mr. Weeaboo
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>>87485614
Ok I forgot its proper name. Slice of Life. Better?
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>>87485666
Moe is a subjective response the viewer has towards a character. What about it?

>>87485687
It doesn't have a proper name. Moeshit does not exist.
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>>87485709
>90% of Slice of Life is Moeshit
>it doesn't exist
Please never reproduce.
>>87485664
>Narcissist
I don't think that means what you think it means.
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>>87485810
Again, pointing at a random show and saying it's moeshit does not prove moeshit exists.

>Please never reproduce.
So you're saying people shouldn't reproduce if they're too intelligent? Why is that?

>I don't think that means what you think it means.
It's narcissistic to think anyone who doesn't agree with you must be baiting.
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>>87485879
Except you're clearly baiting and the shows I listed fit the agreed generally agreed upon definition of Moeshit and fit the criteria but please tell me how you are an expert in genre conventions and tropes.
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>>87485930
I am not baiting, you retarded narcissist.

>generally agreed upon definition of Moeshit
There is no such thing.

>please tell me how you are an expert in genre conventions and tropes.
Moeshit is not a genre.
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>>87485964
If the goal of an anime is to entertain by being cute than it is by definition Moeshit. By your logic tropes don't exist. Moeshit isn't a genre but it is a state of mind and denying it exists is like denying the existence of colors because people see them different.
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>>87486016
Moeshit has no definition, and "entertaining by being cute" doesn't mean anything.

>By your logic tropes don't exist.
I never expressed any such logic.

>Moeshit isn't a genre but it is a state of mind and denying it exists is like denying the existence of colors because people see them different.
Moeshit does not exist.

You, like almost all Western anime viewers, are like one of the prisoners in Plato's cave, not looking at the anime but only the shadows it casts on the wall. You interpret the shadows and give them names like "moeshit," and you think they represent the reality of anime.
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>>87483752
fuck off sufag
>>87483943
Don't forget Empowered, Ronin and Invincible.
>>87485173
Now you are just trolling.
Come on anon, if you don't have an actual response then better stop posting.
>>87485709
>>87485964
>See, all of you are giving me proffs that I am wrong but because I don't want to believe you, you are wrong.
>And also retards.
You are truly cynical.
>And also narcissists.
And also stupid.
Consider suicide (not the band).
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>>87486101
>See, all of you are giving me proffs that I am wrong but because I don't want to believe you, you are wrong.
No such proof was given.

>You are truly cynical.
No I'm not.

>And also stupid.
Why am I stupid for calling a narcissist a narcissist?

>Consider suicide (not the band).
Why?
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>>87486071
Anime is a medium not a genre lmao. Theres nothing intellectual about anime you pretentious cunt lmao.
>>87486140
>I am intelligent
Now (You) are being a Narcissist.
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>>87486176
I didn't say anything about whether anime is a medium or genre.

>Theres nothing intellectual about anime you pretentious cunt lmao.
In that case there's nothing intellectual about anything.

>Now (You) are being a Narcissist.
No I'm not.
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>In that case there's nothing intellectual about anything.
Now you're catching on Junior.
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>>87465431
>Spidey fan
Automatically okay in my book.
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>>87460875
oh whoa, I totally forgot about cap'n urf. the plot started to get too weird for me
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>>87484155
You know what is sad? The epilogue of the series in on a hentai doujin, in that hentai doujin there is a loli (daughter and little sister to OP picture).

That loli has a team of superfriends with more cute loli and a shota.

But the hentai part of the doujin is only about the mother, loli daugher and her superfriends part is completly clean
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