Where did they go right?

>>87192762
Outfit design obviously.
WW's outfit design was is fucking phenomenal, colors is mixed, they do look better in the WW trailer then they did in Bvs.
Mera looks great also. Hair could be a bit more starkly crimson.

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>>87192792
Stop posting this.
There is not a single thing Snyder lacks in understanding about the characters.
Intentionally turning aspects of characters on their head in order to do new & inventive things with them is not not understanding them.

Not 1 single plot hole in Mos and none of serious note in Bvs.

DCEU Superman & Lois are some of the most sympathetic I have ever encountered you can shove your no emotional connection up your fucking ass.

Costume design, because Gal Gadot and Amber Heard are notoriously subpar actresses and don't have the necessary gravitas for the regal characters they're portraying.

>>87192839
I seem to recall Heard getting really high praise for 1 specific movie.

>>87192762
Everything except the actors, writers and director

>>87192837
>DCEU Superman & Lois are some of the most sympathetic I have ever encountered

I weep for the state of your interpersonal relationships.

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>>87192837
>Not 1 single plot hole in Mos

Minor Plot hole: No one figured out Superman’s identity at the end of the movie even if

1) Zod’s ship literally landed beside his farm to question his mother

2) 2 police officers brought Lois Lane to Clark’s house while screaming his real name when he was in his Superman suit

3) The US army took his baby-spaceship from the farm to launch it as a weapon

4) All his childhood friends who were in the bus are now convinced it could only be him

5) The conspiracy theorist who initially published Lois Lane’s story could decipher it on his own, or with the help of the online community that might have developed a keen interest on the flying god living among them

Minor Plot hole: Clark Kent controls himself to not punch a misogynist douche-bag who throws a beer at his perfect and sexy head and instead opts with the more subtle approach of ramming his truck with a dozen wood logs. Not only is this physically impossible to do for anyone on the planet, thus raising major alarms on his identity, it is also physically impossible to do without anyone noticing it inside the bar while it is happening.

Can you imagine the sound a truck would make while it is getting gang-banged by the forest in a parking lot right beside you? That would be loud. But no one heard a thing. No one heard a thing because Zack Snyder wanted to make a funny visual joke in the movie – forgetting along the way that the opportunity cost for his amusement was a few of our brain cells.

>>87192855
Why? What does that have to do with anything.
Superman trying to stay above the fray of politics and let his actions speak for him does not make him or his intent any less sympathic.

>>87192837
>There is not a single thing Snyder lacks in understanding about the characters.

>A Superman that distrusts humanity and treats his mission as a burden
>A Batman that willingly murders
>A Lex Luthor that welcomes aliens into the planet and whose hatred of Superman is given religious undertones

boi

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>>87192865
Minor Plot hole: Ancient Krypton traveled on Earth 18,000 years ago; docked their still-operational ship in the arctic; probably group-masturbated for a few years since the North Pole in 16,000 BC was not the best place to study human civilization; and decided it was a good idea to die in their ship and forfeit the possibility of going back home to their friends and families. And that is, in a nutshell, the ‘’Nolan-realistic’’ version of the Fortress of Solitude, which ironically enough, is even more retarded than the original comic-book version.

Minor Plot hole: Why did Krypton need to put the individual Popsicle-prison cells in a functioning spaceship to send in the phantom zone instead of just launching the cells alone? If you only send traitors in the phantom zone, does that mean the whole spaceship was automatically operated without a crew? And if you didn't need a sacrificial crew to control your ship, why would you need to send a ship? And wait, better question! Why the hell is it so complicated to keep the prisoners in a normal full-security prison on Krypton? You froze them! They can’t do shit! What’s the point of both freezing a prisoner and sending him to a void dimension where he can’t escape if any of the two is enough?

And wait, better question! Why does the Phantom zone cancel itself when Krypton gets destroyed? Does it run on electricity? And if it does, does that mean an EMP attack would free them? But even when Zod and pals are freed, they are automatically de-frozen, which doesn’t make sense. Is the spaceship equipped with an automatic program that super-heats the Popsicle the second it is out of the phantom zone?

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Damn, I just feel like this is what Thor should have been all along

>DCEU did Thor before marvel

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>>87192881
Minor Plot hole: Metropolis is getting literally screwed by a giant alien laser that sends gravity-defying shock-waves around the streets….and no one seems to think it might a good idea to get the hell out of the city. You want countless examples? Fuck you – you’ll get 2:

1) Morpheus is in the Daily Planet building with his staff when they see the laser entering the ground for the first time. Only when the shock-waves are getting near their building after a few minutes do they finally say ‘’ Hey guys, time to leave this cataclysm!’’. Congrats morons. Most people would have left the city the second that big black testicular spaceship entered the skyline.

2) When Zod and Superman are fighting in a museum in the center of Metropolis, there are still dozens of people enjoying their family-time together while their neighbors are getting shredded to pieces by gravity-shifting elbow drops. This scene is literally 20 minutes after the first laser blast destroyed many buildings. Didn't they hear anything? Didn't they feel the floor was unusually collapsy that day?

>>87192875
kills, not murders

it's all vigilante shit or self-defense

>>87192875

>A Superman that distrusts humanity and treats his mission as a burden

Pre-Nu52 Superman right there.

>A Lex Luthor that welcomes aliens into the planet and whose hatred of Superman is given religious undertones

Nu52 Lex Luthor right there. Remember, Lex in Grant Morrison's Action Comics run had a deal with the alien Collector, who helped in how to take down Superman.

>>87192887
>Look at how badass Aquaman is, kids! He drinks liquor straight from the bottle! Look at his sick tats and smoking hot wife! Please like Aquaman, kids!

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>>87192892

Major Plot hole: You can’t put glasses on Clark Kent. I know it’s the official origin story but it doesn't work at all for the 21st century. How much of an imbecile do you have to be to disguise yourself with only a pair of glasses around people who saw you do Superman shit? There are HD cameras everywhere; everyone on the planet probably has a poster or a screensaver of you in retina display. As technology improves, the Clark Kent costume simply becomes completely laughable. It needs to stop. Take note Hollywood.

Major Plot hole: Krypton makes no sense. At all. Let’s look at it in its simplest form: A dying planet inhabited by technology gods who developed galaxy-scope space travel and terra-forming machines…are not aware that their own planet is on the verge of exploding (except for 2 guys) and are not using any of their machines to save their fate. It's like Prometheus all-over again.

Major Plot hole: Jor-El created a slick spaceship called ‘’Orphan Express’’ for his son to travel toward Earth at a deadly accelerating close-to-speed-of-light cruising speed with the overwhelming confidence that a 24-hour old toddler who is still a newb at breathing would not collapse on itself or vomit liquid-shit all over its terribly dark and scary crib. In fact, space Russell Crowe was so proud of his Orphan Express that the basic logical thoughts of ‘’maybe I should have created a bigger spaceship for my whole family instead of dooming my son to a life of complete stigma’’ and ‘’Wait. Why do I need to die again?’’ were completely lost on him.

Major Plot Hole: If Jor El created the spaceship that Zod and everyone was in while in space, Why didn't he just put it in hyperspeed and self destruct it or dropped it in the sun after Lois and Superman get out?

>>87192895
>Pre-Nu52 Superman right there.

Literally no. Unless you're thinking about that time Superman was a gun, and not even that applies.

>>87192894
>Spends the entire movie planning a man's murder

BOI

>>87192865
>Zod’s ship literally landed beside his farm to question his mother
It's a good way away from town.
>2 police officers brought Lois Lane to Clark’s house while screaming his real name when he was in his Superman suit
I just saw 1 and they probably saw him protecting the town and thought he deserved his privacy. Most incarnations of Superman has many of the people of Smallville protecting his identity.
>The US army took his baby-spaceship from the farm to launch it as a weapon
No we never saw who got it, Clark may have carried it to the base himself.
>All his childhood friends who were in the bus are now convinced it could only be him
Only the girl & his former bully are shown to have witnessed him being the one to push the bus back to the shore.

I will concede that the smashing of the truck would have made noise.

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>>87192911
Plot contrivance: If Zod really wants to kills the family at the end, why not just move his eyeballs? It's not like Superman was holding them in place: they were completely free!

Plot contrivance: An oil rig explodes sending dangerous material all over the ocean. All aquatic life tries to leave as fast as possible following their survival instincts – except for whales, except for CGI whales that are guided by Zack Snyder’s boner for spectacle over logic.

Plot contrivance: Lois Lane has the super-power of being able to teleport where the script needs her to be even if she is physically too far to succeed. At the end of the movie, after Superman snaps Zod’s neck, Lois shows-up at the exact moment of his death even if Zod and Superman were fighting for 10 minutes in the sky through multiple buildings before crashing in the museum.

Plot contrivance: Lois Lane gets asked by Faora to board the Krypton spaceship to get information about Superman…. while Superman is also going to be boarding the spaceship. God this is stupid. Since Lois Lane has no justification in the movie, she has to be shoe-horned in even though it makes no sense for her to be there - Just like the ending where she is on-board the US bomber, for again no reason, except having to be rescued by Superman later on.

Plot contrivance: It is both daytime when Superman is fighting the hentai-machine in the Indian Ocean and when the army is fighting Zod’s ship in Metropolis in the United States.

>>87192908
Better than most shit at least. It's refreshing to see different interpretations.

>>87192931
Plot contrivance: At the end of the movie, everything is flowers and puppies and everyone goes back to work at the Daily Planet building that was lucky enough to be basically the only saved skyscraper from the mayhem. Life completely changed for everyone: aliens exist, half of Metropolis and its population is dead and destroyed, but we need a happy ending so everyone smiles and is happy to work.

Plot contrivance: If you want a job as a reporter at the prestigious Daily Planet, you don’t need any journalistic experience, simply having tried a few unrelated jobs here and there like fishing crabs and bar-tending will get you the job. In fact, those same impressive credentials will also land you a great job as a military aid in the North Pole – because you never know when you will need to bar-tend those crazy snow crabs to save your life.

Plot contrivance: It is funny that the US army, of all people, would not be able to do an effective background check on Superman while Lois could.

Plot contrivance: The US army creates a black hole to destroy Zod’s ship but it then disappears for no reason instead of staying there and accumulating more mass until the whole of Earth was part of it. The army was like ‘’Fuck yeah, let’s create a black hole over our biggest city, our knowledge of black holes is very similar to our tangible experience with them, which is jack-shit, but we are confident that this plan will not backfire at all because an Alien high-school drop-out with no formal scientific training told us it was a good idea’’.

>>87192917

Pre-Nu52 always treated his Superman role as a burden. His dream is being normal.

>>87192875
>>A Superman that distrusts humanity and treats his mission as a burden
1.) Being weary of Humanities dark side is not antithetical to Superman conceptually. He can represent and strive to better the good of the human race and still not be a niave fucking idiot in regards to the horrors they are capable of.
2.) Helping people is not a burden but the baggage that comes with it is, showing that all this would come easy for him and would have no bad consequences is ignoring fucking reality and destroys any immersion or depth the world building would have had.

>>87192949
Plot Contrivance: The planet drill is destroyed. Dr. Emil used his scientific brilliance to turn the "on" switch on Kal's spaceship. Zod and his entire army are about to be sent back to the phantom zone. All Kal has to do is push the "fortress of solitude" ship with Zod at the helm into the newly created phantom zone/ singularity/blah-blah hole then it's a wrap. Instead Kal crashes the ship on Earth, stranding it and Zod. This results in two inevitable consequences. 1) Kal must battle Zod in a brutal fist fight destroying several buildings and killing more people. 2) There's a crashed alien spaceship filled with advanced technology and weaponry for the US military to play with. That will end well. Way to go, Kal.

Unaddressed Issue: Jonathan Kent seems to be a psychopath. Let’s look at a few symptoms:

The biggest life-lesson he is trying to inculcate his son with at every opportunity he gets is to never trust humans

When presented with a choice between saving a bus-load of screaming friends from drowning versus protecting his secret identity from humans that cannot physically harm him, Jonathan would choose to let all his friends die in a melodic echo

Jonathan wants to teach his son about restraint: this is why he needlessly marches into a tornado to save a family member that can be replaced for 100$. His wife becomes a lonely widow and his son an emotionally scarred wandering vagabond, but he will have learned a valuable lesson: his dad was fucked-up

why was his dad like this?

Issue: Superman’s suit is more than 18,000 years old and it looks exactly like the ‘’new’’ armor that all Krypton people wear. But this is peculiar. Do you think we dress the same as our 16,000 BC ancestors? Or that people in the year 20,000 AC will dress the same as us? Shit, we barely dress the same as our parents did. But apparently, fashion and textile technology radically came to a halt for Krypton. Or the screenwriter simply stopped caring. One of the two

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>>87192929
>It's a good way away from town.
Still easy to trace and to be seem by satelittes, planes, or even by people outside of the city, judging by its size.


Also, you doesnt seem to know what "plot hole" is, if nothing of what you said is adressed, and you have to create ways to fill in and make it have any sense....it is a Plot Hole.

>>87192971

>Superman’s suit is more than 18,000 years old and it looks exactly like the ‘’new’’ armor that all Krypton people wear. But this is peculiar. Do you think we dress the same as our 16,000 BC ancestors? Or that people in the year 20,000 AC will dress the same as us? Shit, we barely dress the same as our parents did. But apparently, fashion and textile technology radically came to a halt for Krypton. Or the screenwriter simply stopped caring. One of the two

Most of these are stupid nit-picky bullshit or things the person who made this copy-pasta didn't understood.

Take this one for example. Really? Fucking really? Even then they show that Superman's suit is colorful, because back during the expansion era the kryptonians where more optimistic and hopeful, while the current kryptonian suits are dark, because now they're a bunch of assholes.

>>87192960
Show me proof.

>>87192762
For the idiot copy pasting. Its it an understood rule that Smallville knows hes Superman but they dont tell.
Like why would they. Hes constantly saving the world dude might want to come home to relax.
DC citizens arent Dicks like Marvel citizens

>>87192931
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>>87192865
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>>87192892

>"This is fine" dog becomes popular
>Decides to make a follow up comic
>It sucks

Why?

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>>87192875
>A Superman that distrusts humanity
He compromises his identity multiple times as a fisherman. I guess your line of reasoning is that he's bad because he hides what he is, but that's typical of Superman.

>A Batman willingly murders
I don't like it. But Burton got away with it without all the bitching. Killed during the Golden Age too.

>A Lex Luthor that welcomes aliens into the planet
Morrison had him do this with Brainiac, and before that there was the whole deal with Lexiac. Lex Luthor is a cunt and hypocrite who doesn't actually believe much or any of his babble.

It was just an unlikable, autistic and overtly deranged Lex, though, who felt like Joker-lite in contrast to the man of superficial charm he generally is. Snyder lost me completely with the drool at the end.

Overall, based on Man of Steel, I'd say that Snyder does get Superman even if its not necessarily some fanboy's Superman (Donner, lel suicide girl), but that BvS is where the bigger fuck ups arrived.

>>87192837
>Stop posting this.
Snyderhaters communicate through dank memes. They can't actually articulate why they dislike things.

The entire color complaint, along with the simplistic logic of bright=good, from them makes me cringe.

>>87193051
>Its it an understood rule
But 90%of the time Snyder Supes is defended with "He's not comic Superman" or something similar.

>>87192881
They wouldn't have been allowed to return home after exploration was abandoned/outlawed.

You are way overthinking the phantom zone stuff you god damn retard.

>>87192892
Its like 2 minutes max until he says "we are leaving the building now" switching to other events around the city made it seem longer but their is no evidence they stayed unrealistically long.

It was a train station not a museum.

>>87192911
>You can’t put glasses on Clark Kent
Fuck the god damn hell off.

>>87192911
>are not aware that their own planet is on the verge of exploding (except for 2 guys) and are not using any of their machines to save their fate
They are aware, note the counsel didn't argue with Jor when he tried to warn them.
The problem is they see expansionism as being morally aberrant just like they do with natural births.
>>87192911
>‘’maybe I should have created a bigger spaceship for my whole family instead of dooming my son to a life of complete stigma’’ and ‘’Wait. Why do I need to die again?’’
1.) That is the case with every version of the character.
2.) Time constraints, he had to build the ship in secret.
3.) He and Lara were apart of Krypton's stagnant culture, Kal needed to be raised by a completely different mindset.

>>87192931
>Plot contrivance: If Zod really wants to kills the family at the end, why not just move his eyeballs? It's not like Superman was holding them in place: they were completely free!
Eye beams don't work like that in this universe once the output of energy starts flowing at such a strong level. Hence him twisting his whole head around whole trying to stop the blast when he first lets loose with them in Wyane Tower.

>>87193063
>This butthurt over people not liking your shitty director

Go back and rewhatch you Sucker Punch.

>>87193083
Te action scenes in sucker punch are p. good, if he just made a few vignettes instead of a metastory it would have been fine

>>87193077
Are you sure because ive seen defending with comic book examples.

>>87192762
Costume design.

Both Gadot and Heard are shit actresses unfortunately.

>>87193083
Sucker Punch rules bro.
>>87193094
What's wrong with the story?

>>87193098
The only comics I've seen used to defend Snyder are panels of Batman and Robin killing people.

>>87192931
>Lois Lane has the super-power of being able to teleport where the script needs her to be even if she is physically too far to succeed.
I concede this. But that is a filming error not a plot hole.
>>87192931
>God this is stupid
Not it is not they wanted a hostage. And they wanted info that Clark's mind might have been able to resist giving to them.
>>87192931
>Just like the ending where she is on-board the US bomber
So she can improvise if needed with Clark's baby ship and for emotional weight to the bomber's events.

>>87192931
>Plot contrivance: It is both daytime when Superman is fighting the hentai-machine in the Indian Ocean and when the army is fighting Zod’s ship in Metropolis in the United States.
No it is morning in the Indian ocean and dusk in Metropolis.

>>87193083
>my shitty director

I criticized Snyder plenty. But notice how I was capable of articulating what he did wrong with Lex and BvS without sounding like a howling retard. This is something that Snyder haters, such as yourself, are incapable of and what distinguishes them from people who simply had beef with a flawed film.

>>87193109
Ive seen folks pull examples from birthright and action comics.
Hell folks are talking about Morrison's run right know.

>>87192949
>Plot contrivance: At the end of the movie, everything is flowers and puppies and everyone goes back to work at the Daily Planet building that was lucky enough to be basically the only saved skyscraper from the mayhem. Life completely changed for everyone: aliens exist, half of Metropolis and its population is dead and destroyed, but we need a happy ending so everyone smiles and is happy to work.
Its a time jump dumb fuck and it might very well be a new building.
Only a 6th at most of Metropolis was destroyed not half.

>>87192762

Diana looks great, especially for a WWI period film.

Mera looks like complete rubbery shit. The exact kind of instantly dated costume that people will look back on in three years and laugh their asses off over how stupid Snyder capseshit is.

>>87193127
It honestly wasnt a sixth. Metroplis is the size of New York.. Its was like 6 blocks maxed.

>>87192971
>The biggest life-lesson he is trying to inculcate his son with at every opportunity he gets is to never trust humans
Because we are genocidal pieces of horrific shit.
>>87192971
>When presented with a choice between saving a bus-load of screaming friends from drowning versus protecting his secret identity from humans that cannot physically harm him, Jonathan would choose to let all his friends die in a melodic echo
No you god damn fucking retard, he said "maybe" in desperation to get his point across that many thousands could die in the social upheavals that may happen in the wake of his existence being known, genocides have happened over lesser things then a being existing that proves all religions wrong basically.

His exact words were "there is more at stake then our lives or the lives around us", do you not understand the concept of the big picture dumb fuck?

>>87192971
>this is why he needlessly marches into a tornado to save a family member that can be replaced for 100$
Because he thought he had time to reach the dog and wanted Clark to protect Martha and the little girl.

>>87192995
No it is simply a non issue that isn't relevant enough to deserve focus. A plot hole is were events do not flow together or actively contradict each other.
Take that spoon you want to be fed with and shove it up your ass.

>>87193063
MoS wasn't that bad from a characterization standpoint of superman, all the notes were there. It was mostly the pacing and presentation of the movie. Shit like washed out colours for little to no reason, bright doesn't equal good but why does everything have to be washed out and dreary even when it doesn't match the tone the movie is going for? Even the scenes that are meant to be colourful? Shaky cam is used for simple conversations for little to no reason. Generally shaky cam and greyish colour palette denotes gritty realism which is why it's normally a perfect fit to depicting a war kind of simulating that guerilla feel, which doesn't fit the plot or tone of MoS. The pace from an origin story to a break neck second half is also exhausting as fuck to sit through.

That's not even all the problems. The problems aren't with how the story is necessarily planned out, but the route and ways of expressing certain points in the story through out the story is what turns people away. Kent's sacrifice while being a pivotal point in the movie, has been done better in comics and delivered the same message without looking as dumb and contrived as it did, for example. Even Supes being forced to kill Zod could've been handled much better.

There's a good movie somewhere in MoS. BvS is just a jumbled mess, there's too much shit for it to be anything but a bunch of fascinating ideas and adaptions all lodged into one movie.

>>87193077
In terms of tone and in terms to the world around him he is not the exact same, but many elements of his mythos are still perfectly intact.

>>87193083
Love Mos, Strong Like both the UC of Bvs & Watchmen, indifferent to 300 & moderately like Dawn of dead. Haven't seen Sucker Punch and don't care too.

>>87192833
The genius of Snyder is making a "mature movie for mature people" that can also be enjoyable on the surface level.

>>87192908
>being badass is now bad for a comic character
Enmasculated generation

>>87192875
>>A Superman that distrusts humanity and treats his mission as a burden

You didnt get it? It's not a mission, it's his call, he doesnt have to do he, he doest it cuz he wants to, if it was just a mission he would do it and not care about the consequences since that's is what he HAS to do.

>>A Batman that willingly murders
And the whole point was that he was the bad guy in the movie and superman has to save him.

>>A Lex Luthor that welcomes aliens into the planet and whose hatred of Superman is given religious undertones

Not only lex has done that several times. To the point of him working with brainiac being a classic pair, but you were also so stupid that you believed the lies Lex was saying.

>>87192923
Yeah, that's the point. It's gotten so bad that he would murder someone innocent, as opposed to indirectly manslaughter criminals. That's when he realizes "we da bad guyz" and changes his mind.

>>87193408
Beta cucks get spooked. That's why they hate DC movies with their powerful characters and directors.

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>>87192792

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Obviously.

>>87193646
>still haven't fixed shit
lel

>>87192837
>t. a 16 year old

>>87192911
Normie filth. Of course he would be the one to complain.
>major plot hole: an iconic piece of the character is left in
Typical.

Looks like the only real complaint was at the end:
>Why didn't he just put it in hyperspeed and self destruct it or dropped it in the sun after Lois and Superman get out?
Because his program got deleted by Zod.

In conclusion, kill yourself and leave this board. Good movies are not for you; go watch the Star Wars prequels, Ghostbusters 2016, and Sausage Party. Those seem to be closer to your taste.

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>really liked BvS
>whenever someone in a room mentioned the movie I had to smile and pretend or else get swamped by opinions

>>87192929
>I will concede that the smashing of the truck would have made noise.

Can bio-aura prevent sounds? That would be cool.

>Clark is too retarded to ask Jor-El about Zod and how he can defeat him, he goes to church instead
>Clark is too lazy to catch trucks what causes big exploision with probable dozens of casualties
>Clark snaps Zod's neck not before thousands of deaths and billion damage of property

>>87192762
Nothing

You're not going to spin this. You couldn't spin Skwad. You couldn't spin BvS. Get over it.

>>87193804
>still mad about good movies
Funny.

>>87193822
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. Do them mental gymnastics son.

>>87193802
>Clark is too retarded to ask Jor-El about Zod and how he can defeat him
Clark has no idea Zod is coming at that point

>he goes to church instead
He goes and ask about sacrifice to a priest

>>Clark is too lazy to catch trucks what causes big exploision with probable dozens of casualties

Did you even saw the movie? it was a parking lot. Is not about being lazy is about not falling for the distraction
>>Clark snaps Zod's neck not before thousands of deaths and billion damage of property

Som he acted like superman.

>>87192908
Why is now wrong to be masculine? People who claim to like superhero media are scared of hairy pecs and muscles, when the Apollonian anatomy is an inherent part of it.

>>87193879
It's obvious that they're afraid to handle the character as anything other than a try-hard appeal at the WWE crowd.

>>87193895
Or they just liked 90's aquaman more and find him more fitting for the role they needed to fill in the team?

Also, you sound like the kind of person that would use the words "chad" and "jock" as something negative.

>>87193984
And you sound like the kind of person who unrealistically defends things that showcase all the hallmarks of worrisome movie-making.

>>87193852
>Clark has no idea Zod is coming at that point
What the fuck are you talking about? Zod literaly named himself on tv.
>He goes and ask about sacrifice to a priest
Clark is too retarded to deside by himself. He clearly needs advice from some random guy who don't know shit
>Did you even saw the movie? it was a parking lot. Is not about being lazy is about not falling for the distraction
Because parking lots are always empty. Yeah, better to fly away from this truck and let it explode instead of just catching it. He obviously will be distracted for few seconds and Zod will kill millions at this exact moment because Clark is not watching at him.
>thousands of deaths
Real Superman prevent thousands of deaths.

>>87193719
>>whenever someone in a room mentioned the movie

literally never happens

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>>87194061
It never happened to you becuse you have no friends

>>87194134
Dayum, she looks way better with blue eyes...

>>87194172
That's the problem with JL. They've could wear wigs and lenses to be closer to images of their characters, but NOOOOO IT'S TOO HARD. We don't suppose to wear that. Who do you think we are? Actors?

>>87194008
>>Clark has no idea Zod is coming at that point
>What the fuck are you talking about? Zod literaly named himself on tv.

Sure...

After Clark talks to jor el in the artic, not before.


>>He goes and ask about sacrifice to a priest
>Clark is too retarded to deside by himself. He clearly needs advice from some random guy who don't know shit

He isnt sure doing it will be good. Not only earth will be unprotected but also Zod will have access to the information Jor-el wanted to keep away from him.

>>Did you even saw the movie? it was a parking lot. Is not about being lazy is about not falling for the distraction
>Because parking lots are always empty. Yeah, better to fly away from this truck and let it explode instead of just catching it. He obviously will be distracted for few seconds and Zod will kill millions at this exact moment because Clark is not watching at him.

2 seconds is a lot of time when fighting someone that moves several times faster than sound

>>thousands of deaths
>Real Superman prevent thousands of deaths.
Not at all. People die all the time, even when superman isnt a rookie. In the death of superman the death toll was in the high thousands.

Montevideo was destroyed on Superman's watch, sure, comics usually don't force you to pay attention to that, but it doesnt mean is not there.

>>87194218
Well Ben Affleck wears a wig, I suppose Henry Cavill can start wearing a wig soon lmao.
And I don't see why they can't dye Ezra's hair blond.

>>87192995
My money would be on our tech simply being too primitive to even see their ship, let alone track it. If you recall their tech has terra forming capabilities that break our laws of physics. Like the equivalent of federal law laws of physics.

>>87194008
>>87194008
>Clark is too retarded to decide* by himself. He clearly needs advice from some random guy who don't know shit
First off, kettle pot. Second, dude. He's weighing his survival vs other people's survival. Something he's had to do for the very first time in his entire life. It's kind of a big deal. Third, it's a freakin priest, not "some random guy who don't know shit". Advising on this sort of thing is all but their entire purpose for being. It's like saying going to a doctor about an infection is going to "some random guy who don't know shit".

>>87194253
Blond hair really doesn't look good on Miller and Momoa if manips are anything to go by

>>87194253
Momoa is wearing lenses too

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>>87194281
I could see it work if his hair is up like in this picture

>>87194236
>Zod reveals himself
>Clark not asking Jor-El about Zod and how he can defeat him. He is doing useless shit and absorb himself in doubt because he is angsty retard.
>He isnt sure doing it will be good. Not only earth will be unprotected but also Zod will have access to the information Jor-el wanted to keep away from him.
> advice from some random guy who don't know shit
It will help, right.
>2 seconds is a lot of time when fighting someone that moves several times faster than sound
Better just watching at Zod all the time and doing nothing while everything dies and explodes? Also, Clark is much faster than Zod.
>Not at all. People die all the time, even when superman isnt a rookie.
I'm pretty sure there wasn't even few hundred deaths during Zod invasion in comics.

>>87194318
He looks too Asian to be blond though he isn't.

>>87194253
Chris Evans wears a wig too lmao
I like how self aware he is about it

>>87194280
>He's weighing his survival vs other people's survival.
"Superman" who are too afraid and in doubt to help people. Wew, son.
>priest, not "some random guy who don't know shit
It's just some young random guy who don't know shit. Even fucking some military man could be more useful than advice from man who probably got beaten in school
Or, maybe...just maybe his fucking kryptonian father who know everything about this threat.

>>87194253
Well, Henry and Ben are the only ones who looks like their characters. Ben could be perfect with blue lences and not being too fat

>>87194320
>I'm pretty sure there wasn't even few hundred deaths during Zod invasion in comics.

The last time "Zod" invaded was during the new krypton arc.

>>87194320
>> advice from some random guy who don't know shit
>It will help, right.

Just like people go to catholic priests for advice on marriege. Also "how to defeat him?" the answer Jor-el could give was "kill him".

>>87194387
I did not know this. I thought it was his natural hair in the movies.

>>87192762
Go back to
>>>/tv/
We don't pretend Snyder is, what is the meme you're using now? Kino? Yeah, /co/ knows he sucks, go home.

>>87194438

It was pretty obvious in TWS, also
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2001604/Is-Captain-America-going-bald-Chris-Evans-reveals-Im-losing-hair.html

>'The fear is this [role] can span 10 years so I can be doing this character until I'm 40,' he told E! online.
>'I'm supposed to be like this superior human.
>'He can't be balding... How horrible would it be if this superior man has male pattern baldness?'

>>87194490
>Yeah, /co/ knows he sucks, go home.

/co/ is a dumb autistic pleb board.

>>87194419
>The last time "Zod" invaded was during the new krypton arc.
So?
>Just like people go to catholic priests for advice on marriege
>Downgrade Superman to some catholic idiot who can't decide if he wants to fuck one woman for his life or not
Pathetic.
>Also "how to defeat him?" the answer Jor-el could give was "kill him".
Or,being genius scientist, he could help to Clark to destroy fucking ship before it lands on Earth or something like that.

>>87194501
Now I wish Cavill will admit it as well and start wearing wigs. Like Evans said, you can't have a superior human that is balding. I like my Superman with a good hairdo

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>>87193669
that's the joke

>>87194562
I like him to give off the vibe that he is older. Superman can be balding it a bit.

>>87194518
>>The last time "Zod" invaded was during the new krypton arc.
>So?

If you are a dumbass pleb that didnt read the arc is not my fault.

>>87194562
Superman is always balding in the comics you pleb.

>>87194849
Rarely. And this is supposed to be a young Superman who just started.
with an old Lois Lane and old Bruce Wayne.. Bravo Snyder

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>>87194889
>with an old Lois Lane
As opposed to Margot Kidder?

>>87192833
Be aside
Can you imagine how great they could have looked if Snyder did them

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>>87194889

>Rarely

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>>87192971
>>87192949
>>87192931
>>87192911
>>87192892
>>87192881
>>87192865
>>87192833
BTFO
T
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>>87194849
End your life, edgykid. I've read this arc and Superman managed to deal with tons of kryptoninans easily. Same with new52 Superman. And you still haven't give a single reason to not ask Jor-El about Zod and what Clark can do about this situation.

>>87195198
>I've read this arc and Superman managed to deal with tons of kryptoninans easily.

And the world went to shit, Argentina was rekt to the point their president was killed, etc, you know what they didnt do? focus on the destruction so it was easy for you to ignore it.

>>87193647
explain?

>>87195588
Because there wasn't lots of destruction. If you imagined it in your mind - it doesn't meant it was in comic. Also there wasn't thousands of deaths. Because people would be really mad then. Snyderman is retard who can't and don't care about saving people and he caused more trouble than help to Earth. Get over it. It's not Superman.

>>87195598
>MARTHA

>>87195598
These three simple scenes is definition of how retarded DCEU is.

>>87193647
Now hold the fuck on. You can say what you will about Suicide Squad, the idiotic plot, the unnecessary flashbacks, the jarring tonal differences brought about from differing cameras, the character bastardizations, etc., but I will not allow you to disrespect that Joker moment. That was legitimately funny. Look at that hand smile. Notice that it's actually upside down.

>>87195803
But those were good scenes so the point falls flat.

Especially the Joker one.
>Joker making a joke is bad
No wonder you idiots loved Heath Ledger.

>>87192762
I'll tell you when they start.

>>87196000
>But those were good scenes
No, they weren't. When your "emotional scenes" leave howls of laughter from the audience, it means they weren't good. Especially if they weren't meant to be laughed at.

>>87195915
>>87196000
I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOO CRAAAAAAZYYYYYYY LOOK AT MEEEE MOM LMAO
Stop this cringe shit, kids.

>>87196111
>implying that's not Joker in a nutshell

Obviously you're a casual.

>>87192911
>You can’t put glasses on Clark Kent.

The glasses are just a part of the costume.
The costume is his posture, the way he acts, the way he looks at you, the way he speaks. All of it.

It's a real thing. Celebrities do it. They go out and don't get noticed because they drop the superstardom and act like normal people just trying to get through the day. Everyone looks at them and thinks "wow that chick looks like Mariah Carey" because they're used to the spectacle and they can't tell without it.

Everyone's too busy for this shit. Same with Superman. It's always been part of the character, but you wouldn't know that because you don't know anything about Superman.

>>87196110
Except that didn't happen, except for sociopaths and autists. People only laughed afterwards when other people told them to. You really think the people who hate this film came to that on their own? Of course they didn't. People who hate this movie are retards.

>>87196177
And now you will show me comic where Joker is wannabe gangsta full of cringy I'M CRAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYY tatooes who's don't make jokes, don't care about Batman, changes his outfit every 5 minutes and also cares about Harley so much that he saves her few times willingly.

>>87196234
Jesus christ on the cross....I sincerely hope you're just fucking around and no one actually believes this....That level of delusion is kind of scary.

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>>87196234
This.

Liking Snyder movies make up patricians intelectuals, besides confident chads.

Everytime that I go met new people, I ask them if they enjoy more DCEU or Marvel movie, if they say Marvel, I already know that it isnt the kind of people that I want to be associated with.

>>87193719

I liked it also.

>>87196284
If people say that they like Disney's Marlel or DCEU - they're biotrash and should end their lives.

>>87196259
Of course I won't because it's not from ONE SPECIFIC COMIC. It's an amalgamation of various different comics and styles, like most of the other DCEU characters.

>don't make jokes, don't care about Batman
100% false. You're lying, but nobody's buying it.

>>87196436
>It's an amalgamation of various different comics and styles, like most of the other DCEU characters.
And that's why they're shit. Ok, birng me good comic where Joker is wannabe gangsta OR full of cringy tatooes, OR changes his outfit every scene.
>100% false. You're lying, but nobody's buying it.
You can deny it as much as you want, but he didn't drop a single joke during movie and haven't even mention Bat, he only cared about Harley.

>>87196501
>Ok, birng me good comic where Joker is wannabe gangsta

Everything from the 40's

>OR changes his outfit every scene.

The 90's and 80's

>>87196533
I've said GOOD comic, you fuckng pleb.

>>87196234
I gotta say there were a couple of chuckles in my audience at the Martha sceene. One guy behind me said "I'm sorry this movie is bad" to his friend. BvS was just that badly executed

>>87196562
Those were good, you fucking ignoramus. If they weren't, Joker would have stayed dead after his first appearance, instead of being brought back time and time again after 70+ years. Lrn2history

>>87196178
Everyone's too busy to notice? Even the surveillance cameras that are absolutely everywhere now? The fact that Snyder wants to create a gritty "realistic" Superman is his own downfall. He's an inherently silly character that needs a massive amount of suspension of disbelief to even work.

>>87197053
>Even the surveillance cameras that are absolutely everywhere now?
That's how Lex figured it out actually. He controls the security cameras, as seen in the movie comics.

>>87192908
... but he's right. That is exactly what Thor should be.

Thor should be a Mead Drinking Hero. Not a pussywhipped errand boy.

Last two digits of my post are the final RT score for Justice League

>>87197105
Believable.

The last two digits of my post are the highest score a DC cinematic universe movie will ever achieve.

>>87196562
>there's idiots in /co/ that think golden age batman wasnt good

Batman had the best golden age comics after the marvel family and Based plastic man

>>87197163
Hey, at least it's fresh.

>>87197163
i can believe it

>>87194562

Balding is the sign of a high test alpha. It's a sign of superiority mate

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>>87192908
YOU'RE A DC MALE

>>87197345
>women jumping up and down for Superman
>beta cucks butthurt
Genius.

>>87195722
Not sure about New Krypton, but thousands of people die every time DC has a crossover event. I'm also not sure whether or not people seriously believe that Snyder invented the concept of superhero stories having a lot of destruction.

>>87195130

This is the most glorious rant I have even witnessed.

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>>87197531
>>87195722

He is just being an idiot, the new krypton war was big into the violence.

>>87197105
I can see that, yeah

Does any of this matter? It's beyond broken at this point, it's basically a dead man walking.

Why dafuq is bruce recruiting people while not in costume, does he just trust 2 strangers he's never met because they have powers and town full of hungry people who would sell him out in a heart beat to be well off, with his secret identity?
>tfw he's basically Tony Stark

>>87198108
>does he just trust 2 strangers

Yes. Superman made him believe men are still good.

>>87196844
>>87197180
Name at least few iconoic, or, at least, decent comic from your ancient garbage where authors didn't know shit about writing a good story.

>>87198196
So he made him naive?

>>87197531
Crossover event - where dozens of cosmic villians kills a lot of people. Wew, son, Now show me good comic where Superman let thousands of people die because he was too retarded to prevent invastion depsite fact that he has all opportunities to do that.
>>87197618
How many people have died there? One hundred? Did Superman visit church there instead of doing something useful too?
Fukcing retards. Stop trying to make Snyder and Goyer shit accurate to comics.

>>87198217
You didnt like Monster men and the Mad monk?

Anyway, while the city sleeps is great and the first batman is a timeless classic

>>87198196
"Batman" forgot about his vow to his parents and crusade just becase "people are not good anymore :((" "muh Robin is dead", "wtf I hate people now", "I'll kill dozens of them now". Also his faith was restored by simple trigger word.
Sounds like a pretty shitty hero and more shitty Batman incarnation itself.

>>87198309
>Did Superman visit church there instead of doing something useful too?

Nah, he worked under Zod for a long time instead ;)

>>87198378
Wew, lets mix some ancient shit which is not relevant for decades, miller shit, few questionable modern comics and threw few iconic comics into that. It gonna be so good and beloved by fans and normies. We gonna break bil easily! Even solo Batman movie did it in fucking 2008 and was prasied literally by everyone!

>>87198393
I agree with you but I'm pretty sure Batman killed people before Robin died, the weapon Jason's holding is a fucking halbert. Also there isn't any good reason for him killing because Hack Snyder doesn't even considered what Batman did as killing.

>>87198393
>"Batman" forgot about his vow to his parents and crusade just becase "people are not good anymore :((" "muh Robin is dead

1. Superman is the one that stops Butman for going murder crazy when todd died in the comics.
2. Here he only kills AFTER the battle of krypton
3. "Also his faith was restored by simple trigger word"

If you think that is what happened no wonder kinoretards say the movie was too smart for your kind.

>>87198483
What are you talking about?
You asked about good golden age comics, and you got your answer, stop your autism.

>>87198455
Well, it's pretty logical decision since he needed to watch on Zod and army of kryptonians under his command.

>>87198512
>doesn't even considered what Batman did as killing.


Murder =/= killing

>>87198512
he's a delusional psycho that thought what he did was the same as what nolan did, this from the mind of the man that said he'd have started batman begins with batman being raped in jail

>>87198559
Is that what you took from that? I didn't say anything about murder, I only said killing. Hack Snyder thinks all those people Batman killed weren't by his hand and we all accidents like "oh, he shot the car and the car blew up. That's not his fault" or "he shot the flamethrower tank, it was totally the other guys fault". This is how idiotic your saviour is.

>>87198519
1. That's why only good universes is where Batman and Suprman are friends from the begining. Sure, they've had some controversy, but beating each other to death because of some autist. That's retarded.
2. The main point - he kills. Literally for no reason.
3. That was the point of the scene and even creators admited it, you delusional kid.
Batman haven't noticed that Superman is "human" too. He didn't thought that ohmygod look at me, i'm retarded murderman who is manipulated by autist. He only change is mind because of fucking trigger. If Clark's mother name were "Susan", he'd be pierced by a spear few times.

>>87198108
Just because you're making a team doesn't mean you'll be in it. The coach or manager isn't the player. No one thought Amanda Waller would be part of Task Force X.

For all they know, Bruce is just a rich guy who wants to gather up strong individuals to protect the Earth.

>>87198774
Who also throws batarangs

>>87198774
considering batman is the only reason people are going to turn up to justice league after the shitshow that was BVS ye batmans going to be on the team

>>87198774
Well, since almost evey person in Snydervers either insane retard or autist, I think they'll not manage to realise who he is. Even Barry with batarang infront of him.

>>87198774
Even so, a famous billionaire trying to recruit meta-humans for an alien threat nobody knows about might raise some eyebrows, the towns people could sell that to a news paper at a good amount and don't say," Well, they're probably nice people", there is no way there is not at least one guy willing to sell this guy out for a quick buck. Also he throws a freaking batarang at flash, why would he reveal his identity like that? You could say,"batman knows his identity too so he could threaten him like that", but why the hell would he show his hand and risk it, hell he could've just thrown a regular knife.

>>87198688
That's not what Snyder said. He said it was Manslaughter and not murder.

>>87198702
>3. That was the point of the scene and even creators admited it

And that's why they stop fighting, not the reason why Batman start believing men are still good. That comes later at the sacrifice

>>87198901
there was an interview where he said when batman shot the fuel tank the goon was the one that lit the fuel so it wasn't batman, he's a retard

>>87198870
It's about trust, he wants them to know they can trust him.

Remember the DCAU?

;)

>>87198901
Call it whatever the hell you want, people were killed and it was his fault.

>>87198942
He is right. Also the "goon" was KGBeast. Dirty pleb.

>>87198964
I'm saying Snyder didnt deny it, Snyder position was that it was manslaughter and not murder, but you autistic cunts pretend he said something he never said. Don't you have to complain about batman being raped?

>>87198784
That explabation only applies to Aquaman's recruitment because he has people around him. He throws a batarang at Barry because he trusts him, and it's just them.

>>87198799
Yeah, and Bruce Wayne recruited him too. Maybe they've been working together.

>>87198979
knew the character but couldn't remember his name and fuck googling it

>>87198945
You mean after two seasons of them bonding through interesting, emotional and well thought out ways and building up a relationship? Is that what you're refering to? I didn't that was the same as blindly trusting a stranger with the most important and potentially dangerous part of your life just because they're a hero or have super powers and you have no idea if you can trust them or not.

>>87198918
That doesn't change fact that Batman in this universe is absolutely insane reatard who can be triggered by simple word. And that's fucking disgusting. Also Diana could just cut off lims of Doomsday and kill him with spear. There wasn't a single reason for Supes to die. Except Snyder wish to defile iconic story and also make Batman the main founder of League.

>>87198870
Showing that he's Batman gives the edge he needs. Notice how at first Barry tries to deny everything but once Bruce reveals himself he says "I'm in." Looks like his plan worked.

>>87192833
>"Whatch"

>>87199097
t. normie who has never read a single comic in his life

>>87199113
Wew, that Batman couldn't find a way to recruit someone without reveal his secret identity. He will do it to every new dc hero? Just like in comics? He show his face to everyone from the start, right?

>>87199138
he's right about the death of superman story arc being tacked on badly

>>87196284
classic copypasta

>>87199138
That's funny to hear from pleb who find snydershit good. If man have read at least few good dc comics - he'll understand that Snyder and Goyer are two hacks who can't understand shit about this universe.
Does Batman left after Robin's death for years in main universe? Does he kill people without singe thought? Doest he betray everything he has believed and all his oaths to his parents? No, fuck you, filthy casual. He is not.

>>87199167
>he's right about the death of superman story arc being tacked on badly
It was a bad story, and i'm glad they got it out of the way.

>>87199152
>Just like in comics? He show his face to everyone from the start, right?

Actually just like in the JL cartoon, and in new52 JL.

>>87199058
>You mean after two seasons of them bonding through interesting, emotional and well thought out ways and building up a relationship?

That didnt happened. Bruce literally took off his mask in the middle of the street the first time he met john and wally.

>>87199239
Gee I wonder why he does in this universe. You know what that Batman has that this one doesn't? SUPERMAN. That's the point.

>>87199239
>Does Batman left after Robin's death for years in main universe?
He didnt in the movie either

>Does he kill people without singe thought?
Nope, but he isnt a fallen batman, this is

>Doest he betray everything he has believed and all his oaths to his parents?
The Oath wasnt about killing, and more important he does it in alternative timelines.

You clearly dont know shit.

>>87199254
>Actually just like in the JL cartoon, and in new52 JL.
He only shows face to Hal.
>That didnt happened. Bruce literally took off his mask in the middle of the street the first time he met john and wally.
Have you watched you own imaginary JL? Bruce took his mask off during Tanagar invasion. Wally sees him first time.
You're either fat or just retarded.

>>87199254
it could have been done better or just ignored, added 30 mins onto a movie i had already checked out of

>>87192762
Nowhere...

>>87199312
If you didn't care anyway why would they pander to you?

>>87199273
>>87199295
Well, that's the point. If you want to make your own edgy Snyderverse with angsty shit which didn't happen in main universe, make good extended DC universe first with respect to characters and their interaction and relationships. When make shit for emokids as much as you want

>>87199347
because i've been reading batman, superman and wonderwoman since before your mum lied to your dad and told him she was faithful and the babies his

>>87199312
>it could have been done bette
Sure.
The main problem with the death is superman is the pace, after the bvs fight and the werehouse escene you have no time to breath, so the frenetic action felt tired, it was too fast and didnt had the impact it should had

>or just ignored, added 30 mins onto a movie i had already checked out of
Nah, that was impossible, death of superman has been pushed for almost 2 decades, i'm happy they didnt waste time and that now that is out of the way.

>>87199354
t. not muh


The DCEU has lots of problems, being different isnt one.

>>87199354
>If you want to make your own edgy Snyderverse with angsty shit which didn't happen in main universe
It's not edgy at all. No angst in it either.

>make good extended DC universe first with respect to characters and their interaction and relationships.
They already did in MoS and BvS. The amount of respect for these characters is immense. You're just mad that it's good storytelling.

>>87199460
Yeah, right. Because being different from good establishment universe worked so well. They've could just literally adapt few good origins and make team-up from comics. The problem is - they've mixed old shit, new shit, few good moments and it became generic pretentions flick with universe which isn't dc at all.

>>87199547
>pretentions

gotta love that word.
Yes it should had been simple, basic, dumb proof flicks instead of an actual movie.

>>87199547
>Because being different from good establishment universe worked so well.
Worked for Jack Kirby.

>and it became generic pretentions flick with universe which isn't dc at all.
Oh yeah? Substantiate your claims, big guy. What makes these movies "pretentious"?

>>87199692
You need to learn what this word means, anon.

>>87199798
>What makes these movies "pretentious"?

They are not modern quipfest and they don't try to be like movies from the late 70's

>>87194990
Considering Snyder only knows entry level cinematography and the piss-poor self-taught lessons from his music video career, no.

>>87200077
Yeah that's a lie. Good meme though.

>>87199798
>Worked for Jack Kirby.
Snyder is not Jack Kirby. And you should hurt yourself even for comparing them.
>What makes these movies "pretentious"?
Psedo-deep allusions and egdy-teenager-tier paphos senseless dialogs.

>>87200322
>Psedo-deep allusions

The movies are either deep and pretentious or not. It cannnot be "pseudo" deep.

>>87200374
>He haven't seen any Tarkovsky or Kubrick's movie
Spotted the pleb.

>>87200322
>Snyder is not Jack Kirby.
He's exactly like Jack Kirby. You should try reading his comics. Read the fans' letters too, especially for Jimmy Olsen.

>allusions
Prove that an allusion is inherently bad.

>egdy-teenager-tier paphos senseless dialogs.
Yeah, such as "men are still good" right? Snyder is soooo edgy.

>>87200551
>He's exactly like Jack Kirby
Jack Kirby created legacy staff. Hack just took few "cool" comics and mixed them into garbage adaptation.
>Prove that an allusion is inherently bad.
If you like obvious religious and entry-level allegories in movies - you should end yourself
>Yeah, such as "men are still good" right? Snyder is soooo edgy.
Such as everything cringy shit Luthor says. Such as almost everyting 1 PERCENT IS ABSOLUTE Bruce says. Such as everything like "Nothing stays good in this world :(((" shit.

>>87200490
Another argumentless post.

>>87200684
>Such as everything cringy shit Luthor says. Such as almost everyting 1 PERCENT IS ABSOLUTE Bruce says. Such as everything like "Nothing stays good in this world :(((" shit.

So... The Lies Lex, the bad guy say, and the things Bruce, in a broken mental state says when he is both wrong and the antagonist?


>If you like obvious religious and entry-level allegories in movies - you should end yourself

If said allegories complement the story, expand the information about a character, are secundary motivations, or are parallels to the characters arc then there's literally nothing bad about them.

>>87200878
>So... The Lies Lex, the bad guy say, and the things Bruce, in a broken mental state says when he is both wrong and the antagonist?
That doesn't change fact that almost every dialog is cringy and dumb af.
>They should say stupid and senseless edgy shit, because that's their characters!
Shitty characters says shitty things. Wew.
>If said allegories complement the story, expand the information about a character, are secundary motivations, or are parallels to the characters arc
>If
Only if they're not ridiculously generic and obvious and "we're trying too hard to be deep" tier.

>>87200684
>Jack Kirby created legacy staff. Hack just took few "cool" comics and mixed them into garbage adaptation.
>If you like obvious religious and entry-level allegories in movies - you should end yourself
This isn't even an argument.

>Such as everything cringy shit Luthor says. Such as almost everyting 1 PERCENT IS ABSOLUTE Bruce says. Such as everything like "Nothing stays good in this world :(((" shit.
That was good dialogue. You gonna show any real proof?

>>87201135
>That doesn't change fact that almost every dialog is cringy and dumb af.
Oh, a retard. That explains it.

>Only if they're not ridiculously generic and obvious and "we're trying too hard to be deep" tier.
More claims without proof. As usual, because if you lie you'll never have proof.

>>87201135
>and obvious

How obvious was the scene in the Wayne's Grave?

>>87201226
Didnt you hear? You have to take the things the villian said as absolute trues, and he is probably right

>>87201226
>tastless pleb trying to defed Goyer's shitty script and edgy 12-years old's dialogs.
Pathetic. Thx God you'll never reproduce.
>>87201241
Pretty obvious if you're not retard. If you didn't get it immediately - I understand why you like snyderverse.

>>87193358
>that can also be enjoyable on the surface level
Yea, man, between being hit in the face with a Jesus analogy every 5 seconds, Lex being a literal autist and Batman being Punisher, man, i enjoyed the fuck out of that.

>>87192782

Mera should be barefoot tho. Otherwise I agree, if there's one thing Snyderverse gets right,it's costumes, unless your name is Flash or Cyborg

>>87201373
No argument so you concede. Face it kid, you're nothing. You don't read comics, you don't watch movies, and you certainly wouldn't know a good story even if it was forced onto you. You don't belong here. Do us all a favor and kill yourself.

>>87197098

He kind of is though; in Age of Ultron he had that superliquor that could incapacitate mortals with one drop. He was also the one to suggest having a party in the first place when they found the scepter.

>>87201595
Stay mad, pleb. Thx Johns you'll not get edgygrimdark shit anymore to fap on. I'll be here to see how assblasted you're about quipfest in JL and other DCEU movies.

>>87201595
Patethic, Snyderfags everyone.

>>87201689
>>87201751
No arguments. As if you ever have any.

>>87193017
>hides his presence thru Darkside war, Convergence, Forever Evil, etc. literally until Superbro passed out.
That's most recent.

>>87193108
Sucker Punch story pretty good.

>>87201373
>Pretty obvious if you're not retard.
That's why i'm asking you, i'm sure you missed it.

Answer it.

>>87201807
>thread is full of solid reasons why snyderverse is shit, zack is hack and you're idiot.
I d-don't see any proofs h-here!
>>87202025
You need to ask nicely first if you want me to explain it to plebs like you.

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>>87194990
Aquaman already looks 100times more badass than Thor. He already did it. Marlel desperately trying to put wrenches in wheels and copy him.

>>87202188
>solid reasons

All debunked.

>>87202223
You can keep telling it to yourself, edgykid. Snyderverse will stay shitty grimdark flicks which wasted huge DC ponential to be masterpieces.

>>87202188

You were asked to explain the "obvious" "pseudo deep" of one simple escene and keep trying to avoid it.

As someone said before, it's either deep or is not, you can't pretend the movie symbolism was in your face if you clearly failed to see it.
>>87202190
Thor looks plastic, they have some serious suit problem at the MCU

>>87202314
As I said, you need to ask nicely first. I don't take commands from plebs.

>>87202314
Yeah, that's what I always say, they making good costumes except Thor somehow, and also very underuse him as well.

>>87202527

Their problem is that it looks too "new", Wonder Skeleton looks like actual leather that got dirty and then was cleaned. The metal looks "older", the designe of Thor is good, it's just that it looks brand new. And brand new "armors" and leather usually look fake.

>>87202470
Please.

>>87202918
Obvious Bruce's obsession with bats and his fear to become monster. Actually it's just shows that Bruce is absolutely insane retard with deep illusions and Snyder just wanted to put easter egg on Man-bat and another pointless "dream sequence". Also they wanted to use it somehow later as some deepshit with tamper

>>87203238
Wrong. It was allusion that bat monster gave him his second life (hence why it exploded from Martha's grave).

At least you willingly confirmed by yourself that BvS was literally too deep for your mind.

>>87203622
>that what's plebs trully believe
Oh God. Stop ashaming yourself.

>>87203238
>Obvious Bruce's obsession with bats and his fear to become monster. Actually it's just shows that Bruce is absolutely insane retard with deep illusions and Snyder just wanted to put easter egg on Man-bat and another pointless "dream sequence". Also they wanted to use it somehow later as some deepshit with tamper

So you missed the Archangel in the back?

kek.

The Archangel dressed in blue with a red robe? Fighting a BAT WINGED devil? And that bruce was so deluded that he identified with Michel?


You are an absolute idiot.

>>87195130
More like Triggered, but sure.

>>87203694
It was too deep, you saw the obvious bat-monster and you thought "this is pretentious", and failed to see the symbolism in the movie, right in Bruce's Back

>>87192865
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>>87192892
I like how no one puts this much effort into shitting on Marvel movies around here. Really shows your camp.