/sug/ - Steven Universe General

>best human edition
Well done op

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I like this thread already.

>>85598458
>>85598462
that isn't sc

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WHERE MY /CLODS/ AT!?
How's my drawing?

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>>85598426
>its ANOTHER Connie episode

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nth for memedot, protector of lapis' smile

>>85598475
>it could be MONTHS before we get more jasper episodes

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Here's your share of endgame for today. Cheers for Sapphire's defect future vision!

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>>85598485
>tfw I know this is true
I've waited long enough for her. But I'm willing to wait a while longer

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>>85598467
Buck > Sour Cream

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>>85598426
We're back, baby!

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Any requests?

anons who can't/don't draw. Draw your favorite gem without a reference.

So what if you attached two whole gems together?
Would they regenerate into the fusion? Or some fusion experiment monster, but with whole bodies?

>>85598515
Still waiting for Pearl with ROSE written on the sole of her shoe. And idk, give her a cowboy hat or something.

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More Ronaldo when?

>tfw I think RT/CS is fun as hell but everyone else hates it

>>85598526

(o :^)--E--C
V

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>>85598526
Here's my masterpiece

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>it's a Steven snaps episode

>>85598471
It's pretty good anon!

/clods/ is still a stupid name, so is any name for waifufags that isn't (gem name)fag.

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>>85598471
Pretty ok, try to keep the eyes inside the head next time my fellow drawfriend.

>>85598535
Really? I didn't know it was hated
I thought it was a clever recap episode

>>85598560
I'll put it on the fridge

>>85598566
>tfw it'll never happen because tumblr wouldn't like it
I JUST WANT TO SEE STEVEN SHATTER ONE GEM. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?

>>85598576
I hate it

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Did a little Armstrong edit for an anon last thread, hope you like it.

>>85598582
anon, tumblr wants steven to kill

>>85598582
>he thinks tumblr has any kind of influence over this show at all

Good one m8

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>>85598526
this is far as i could get
i am autistic

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blmIi8arwTg

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When will Connie get enhancements?

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What if Pearl wasn't in love with Rose. What if she was simply in love with Rainbow?

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>>85598526
Voila

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>She will never get her own pearl.

>>85598618
supreme taste

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>they made Rose a shade of grey character

Sugar actually did it the absolute madman

>>85598582
No because it's too tumblr sjw warrior

>>85598614
>What if she was simply in love with Rainbow?
I know I am.

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>>85598526

>>85598607
that was nice~

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>>85598634

>>85598582
Just wait till he shatters himself

>>85598633
Shade of grey for a children's show for children you mean. Killing one person in a war where the enemy is very willing to kill you and your comrades isn't that morally grey.

>>85598640
>fridge hanging material!!
ur goddamn right

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Would you spend a night with the gems? Its all of them, steven included.

>>85598658
Yes, I meant for a children's show.

I don't expect a Machiavellian Rose reveal where she deliberately started the war and killed millions of Gems just to create Steven or some other edgey shit.

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>>85598526
Did this with using a mouse. I'm pretty surprised this turned out as well as it did.

>>85598688
He said anons who can't draw you jerk

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Non mobile shit games when?

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>>85598708
About the same time as Jasper becomes a fully fledged crystal gem

>>85598568
How about /poorcleavage/?

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>intro
>wait is steven doing the diamond salute?
>it's actually a "U" for Universe
deepest lore!

>>85598730
Nope, his fat arms just can't do the Diamond salute

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>>85598682
I would just play video games with Amy and Peri.

And hopefully be molested by one or more of them.

>>85598699
That's just it. I can't.

At least, I didn't think I could, especially using a mouse.

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>>85598526

>>85598688
>anons who can't draw
>can clearly draw

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>>85598526
i'm pretty bad at general art but drawing meme gremlin from memory is pretty easy so fuck it

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>>85598730

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>>85598761
LIKE MOTHER LIKE SON

>>85598739
>>85598730
You're both right.

He's doing the diamond salute but his arms are too fat so it makes a U for Universe instead.

Steven's gon' be the spoiler]universe authority[/spoiler]

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>>85598526
>who can't/don't draw
>without referrence

It doesn't help I was looking at how to art blogs and garnet pictures to starting learning how to draw but here is a little something

>Jasperfags BTFO

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>>85598761
>>85598769
>post yfw when steven pretends to hail homeworld to trick the diamond authority and it's so convince that even the rest of the CGs are fooled

>>85598791
steven is actually a genius, so I could this happening

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>>85598526
this wasn't a picture I just drew, but I'm too lazy to renew my trail period on art sai

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>>85598526
Tadaa! How did I do?

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Would you let her hold you gently in her arms, anon?

>>85598791
>literally one salute is enough to fool a bunch of space rocks
Gems are as dumb as a sack of... of... some sort of, inanimate, dumb, things.

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>>85598526
What if it gets in the way?

>>85598586
I liked it anon

>>85598813
>implying rubies being massive retards means every other gem is a massive retard
wouldn't be surprised if they got fooled even if steven acted nervous though, as it's a very common cartoon copout

>>85598813
>some sort of, inanimate, dumb, things.
ur mom in bed
lmao

>>85598708
>Steven grows up to become Jontron
I'm okay with that.

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>>85598526
At least I tried.

>anons who can't draw
>All these fucking artists posting
S-stop it you guys, shitty drawings only

>>85598531
I'm a faggot and I can't draw that

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I can't wait for the post-redemption arc Cool But Still An Asshole Aunt Jasper

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>>85598526

>>85598887
Draw Pearl with a high top fade haircut

>>85598813
As a box of rocks?

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>>85598897
Gonna be the bees knees

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somewhere in space is 5 little flame babies floatin around

; _ ;

>>85598682
Yes, but that because I don't have any actual friends. I welcome the "get friends you fag" comments, let me drown in the darkness. I welcome the end.

>>85598897
But she is currupted, wouldn't the cure for curruption be endgame?

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>>85598914
>Jasper in pretty clothes

always acceptable

>>85598901
Smashing

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>PD actually likes Earth life and is the one who inspires that love in Rose
>after a thousand years managing Earth, the order comes from Homeworld that Earth must become a stage 2 colony due to dangerously low resource reserves back on Homeworld
>PD despondently follows orders
>Rose objects
>PD says it is their duty and Homeworld must always come first
>Rose rebels and ultimately shatters the cute and lovable Pink Diamond

>>85598923
get friends you massive fucking faggot, and if you don't mcfucking kill yourself

>>85598917
I'll never forgive Steven for this

Especially Leggy, she must be so scared

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>>85598930
Isn't it though? I have quite the collection

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>>85598897
>>85598914
>>85598930
I need to see lapis in a summer dress..
For non lewd reasons.

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>>85598526

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>>85598928
Cure for corruption is midgame. She must be redeemed from Brutal Asshole to Cool But Still An Asshole Aunt Jasper afterwards.

>>85598934
I like this theory, I enjoy imaging PD as a lovely figure. Although she was probably just as cold and calculating as the other diamonds.

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>>85598923
We're your friends anon

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>>85598946
>he thinks I have Lapis pictures

This is the best I can give you

>>85598965
Speak for yourself. I hate him and hate everybody else here.

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>>85598975
Okay Lapis, go back to your shows.

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>>85598975
I still love you anon

>>85598975
wow rude

>>85598970
It's good enough anon.
It's good enough.

>>85598978
>greg posting
how does it feel to like one of the worst characters in the show

>>85598957
I mean, killing PD would be justified if it was the only thing that could save Earth, so Rose wouldn't even be bad for doing that. However I'm not sure if it is virtuous enough for a kid's show. They might think it would be better to have a mustache twirler for PD.

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>>85598985
Good, now if you'll excuse me

>>85598988
I dunno I didn't post P.dot

>>85598979
why am i so fucking terrified by this thing

>>85598996
>jasper posting too
damn nigga you hittin all the weak spots

>>85598996
Why is it so appealing to see Jasper in pretty dresses?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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>/freaks/ posting this early

ily all

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>>85599014
She cleans up nicely

>>85599032
ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT AND EVERYTHING I SEE IS orange, I think I might have a problem actually

>>85598582
more like because rebecca and the crew wouldnt like it? how can people get so invested in a show and be so clueless about its tone and message

>>85598991
On this topic I think what a lot of people forget how driven Rose is by emotion. Remember when she killed that innocent Ferris wheel? I think she would have impulsively killed PD in a fit of anger, rather than making her the first of a set of dominoes leading to revolution.

>>85598988
Woops. Disregard the post I'm replying to. I meant one of the best characters in the show.

I love Greg so much.

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>>85599032
we are always here
always waiting

>>85599038
I love tumblr faggots who think that they can speak for the crew. Fuck off.

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>>85599037
Yeah, you should probably see an ophthalmologist

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>>85598566
Justice Lords Steven?

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>>85599064
Probably

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>>85598560
>>85598606
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>>85598901
it's all going on the fridge
even the ones that can clearly draw

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>>85598526
>nobody drew Amethyst
Here's second best gem

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>>85598526
I was good at art once, but video games and masturbation took that away from me. Plus I should really look into getting a drawing tablet.

>>85599049
>On this topic I think what a lot of people forget how driven Rose is by emotion
I think your headcanon is seeping in to your conception of canon.

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if you had your own pearl would you be nice to her?

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Did Blue Diamond even make it off Earth?

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What is this circled shape meant to represent in YDs mural?

The first thought is obviously more planets, but they actually look like stars. Could be possible that in each hand she's actually holding entire solar systems? That would seriously boost her planet collection, making her almost on par with White Diamond.

Thoughts?

>>85599088
>my dogshit scribble is there
i'm going to kill myself

>>85599103
Yes, she lived in the lighthouse

>>85599061
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WrongGenreSavvy

>>85599100
I guess, I wouldn't be sexual 'cuz poils are gross

>>85599103
yes obviously, as her diamond is included in the 3-diamond logo on the ship in the return

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>>85599088
Hey HEY! this anon just stole my image!

HELP POLICE I'M BEING ROBBED

>>85599088
Yay!! :D

>>85599123
Stars for energy harvesting perhaps? Whatever they are they have moons around them, a lot of moons. Gas planets maybe.

>>85599103
The current diamond authority is three, so I assume so

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Post cutes of your favorite gem.

>>85599138
Those were triangles, not diamonds

>>85598609
There was a picture of Connie having strapped on Peridot's limb enhancers and wielding Rose's swords.

Failed to save it at the time and REALLY want to see it again.

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>>85599149
Moons around stars are called planets anon

>>85599123
thought about it too, but its pretty much what you you said. hard to speculate on a thing like this.

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Gimme some gems to draw and ill do em in a similar style to this one

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>>85599172
No fuck off

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>>85599154

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>>85599154
Here's Pearl

>>85599175
peridot with really really big tits

>>85599161
They represent diamonds. Anon wasn't referring to the shape.

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>>85598526
More that I can't draw digitally to save my life, but eh.

>>85599061
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-steven-universe-rebecca-sugar-20160512-snap-story.html
>"When you have a message of love and tolerance it’s very hard for someone to say no, because it’s love and tolerance," said Sugar. "Where I’ve stood throughout, when it comes to what I want to say and standing my ground, is that it will always be better to send this message of love and tolerance. It will always make sense.

tons of interviews like this, its been made clear by sugar and the crew that love, tolerance, understanding and compassion are some of the most important elements to the show. sorry you started enjoying something like that, try not to sperg out about it

Does anybody have that picture of Amethyst that looks water-colored, and she was in her shorty squad outfit (with the white shirt and the hat)?

>>85599175
Sardonyx with hips that wont quit

>>85599199
Is your mind really so narrow that you fail to see the possibility that steven could learn something from going full edge-mode? Just like I'm sure rose learned after shattering pink diamond.

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>>85598614
>>85598639
I am no longer in love with rainbow

>>85599216
>"DAMN THAT FELT GOOD I FEEL SO ALIVE WHERES THE NEXT MOTHER FUCKING DIAMOND"
>ROSE NO WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS NO MORE SHATTERING

>>85599175
Steven with a gun saying "delete this" or "enough"

>>85599223
>Code Lyoko

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>>85599154

>>85599199
love and tolerance is what poofed bismuth i guess

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Why is this Mexican boy wearing the Vietnamese flag?

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>>85599191

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>>85599245
kek

>>85599267
He's not Mexican, he's Jewish

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My homie Mali used to stay
at 79th and May
One of my best friends from back in the day
Down the street from Calumet
a school full of Stones
He nicknamed me K-Rock so they would leave me alone

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thanks for drawing this last thread, whoever you are

>>85599274
I SAID REALLY TWICE AND THIS IS ALL YOU GIVE ME?
I'm fucking disappointed in you /sug/

>>85598715
so never ever?

>>85599284
OY VEY

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>>85599154
I love PD's face in that one
Just like "oh well uhh... oh god oh hi okay you exist"

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>>85598515
Jasper like Skull face and the Rubies like the soldiers

>>85599302
>kha'zix is a /sug/poster

of course he is

>>85599216
not my fault you want an edgy show but started watching this one instead. im just saying if youve ever watched the show and paid attention to it, you'd realize that steven would never shatter a gem and that shattering isnt going to be used as some cheap form of character development. go watch an episode of southpark if you wants kids cussing and killing stuff i guess?

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>>85598486
Oh yeah.

[Insert Future Vision superior reply here]

>>85599324
Hehe that would be funny

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>>85598526

>>85599345
it's lars!

>>85599251
bismuth was literally about to poof him, and instead of using the breaking point on them he poofed bismuth in self defence. he then told the cgs everything. hes shown nothing but love and tolerence to centipeedle, peridot (even when she was trying to kill him), lapis, and soon jasper too. episodes like bubbled show that hes learning not everyone can be reasoned with, but he doesnt need to shatter gems to reselve conflict, that will never be the asnwer.

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Lapis "The Velvet Hammer" Lazuli

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~Craaaaaaaaazy sunshiiiiiiine~

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>>85598902
Delivered

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>>85599154

>>85599384
it was a joke you sperg. calm down

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>>85599390

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>>85599154

>>85599405
why is she so perfect bros?

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>>85599154

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Just got done watching Little Witch Academia 2 and noticed this cute lil detail.

The skinny war
http://www.strawpoll.me/11022998

The stronk war [Almost 50/50, this is a bloody battle]
http://www.strawpoll.me/11022971

The diamond hair war
http://www.strawpoll.me/11022996

The bug war
http://www.strawpoll.me/11023005

The crystal gem civil war
http://www.strawpoll.me/11023129

MLK X vs Malcom X
http://www.strawpoll.me/11025166

Hot or Cold
http://www.strawpoll.me/11025182

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>>85599037
Is pic related all you see when you close your eyes anon?

>>85599398
Kek, thanks anon I love it

>>85599439
Whoops. It's not 50/50 anymore my bad.

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>>85599424

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>>85599209

>>85599154
>>85598934
This artist's PD is really getting to me. I know PD will end up nothing like this and I'll be very disappointed. Also I really want PD to be lovable in some way to make her death tragic.

>>85599410
im gettin too riled up over kids shows my bad

>>85599436

Connie also shows up on a background. Can't remember exactly when tho.

>>85599439
why would anyone ever vote for amethyst

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THEY PLAYED US LIKE DAMN CLODS

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TENNIS PRACTICE

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I want to do incredibly lewd things to Pearl

>>85599490
she's not a roid rage dog rapist?

>>85599490
Given that I'm not a closeted homosexual, I don't like Jasper.

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>>85599492

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>>85599490
Because pic related

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>>85599490
Because Amy is cool and Jasper is literal garbage

>>85599490
I watch this show for characters, not fetishes

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BEST GEM ALERT

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>peridot discovers vinesauce

>>85599540
>Feldspars are like worse rubies
>Phased out for rubies because they are even more retarded

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>>85599154
She's only likeable meme spouter

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>>85599540
>that image

>>85599540
but that's a rock

FILL IT AGAIN /sug/

I want Garnet to ______me.

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>>85599553
Fucking end me

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remember when

>"Diamond is a title!"
>"Jasper is secretly a permafusion!"
>"Rose is Pink Diamond!"
>"Lion is Rose's physical form!"

post more

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>>85599244

>>85599565
It's a CLOD

>>85599123
>>85599149
the gas giants are the planets with lines through them (rings). she appears to be holding stars (representing possessing a whole solar system), which would make the orbs around them exoplanets.

>>85599569
Crush me between her thighs

>>85599569
pet

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Lapis
Flapis

>>85599572
>when you realize that vinny is superior to joel

>>85599574
>Onion is Yellow Diamond
>Peridot won't be redeemed
>Garnet isn't a fusion, that was just an animation error

>>85599595
yams

>>85599574
>"garnet is a fusion"

>>85599569
facesit

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>>85599597
>When you realize both are complete shit

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>>85599574
>only fusions have irises

that was a wild one

>>85599574
>granite is not a fusion! gem placements just have to be symmetrical!
i still can't believe how retarded these people were
also
>ampudot
>lapis is blue diamond

>>85599595
What if we made jokes, but instead of things we used dicks?

>>85599613
Also I need a source for this

>>85599613
joel is shit but vinny is pretty cool

>>85599621
HEY LAPIS ARE YOU GAY?

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>>85599574
All gems were crystal gems

>>85599621
I've been calling them "memes"

Let us show you our "memes"

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>>85599574

>"The diamonds are all fusions!
>"RQ is half of Pink Diamond!"

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Post musicians YOU want to see on Steven Universe!

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>>85599433
because she is comfy

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>>85599154
Something about Rose destroying the Ferris wheel to save her man was just adorable.

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>>85599088
Perfect

>>85599663
You mean the worst rapper out of chicago? why...

>>85599569
give advice

>>85599574
>Peridot is in Canada!
>The CGs are going to use the Shooting Star against Homeworld

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>>85599663

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>>85598526

>>85599574
>Rose is blind
>Canadot

>>85599674
>rose got banned from funland for a lifetime
>had to give up her form to go there disguised as her son
K E I K A K U

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>>85598526

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>>85599640
YEAH

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>>85599706
HOW DEEP DOES IT GO

>>85599608
That one was obvious though. Whenever she would access her room in the temple, she would light up the blue and red lights, rather than gems of the same color as her, so something was up, and we saw in the fusion-focused episodes that the color of the gems change when fusion happens.

>>85599640
Yes.

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https://www.change.org/p/cartoon-network-allow-cartoon-network-to-air-the-episode-lapis-lays-an-egg

Reminder to care and share

>>85599739
wait, if garnet unfuses, does that mean her room gets destroyed and all the bubbles get released?

>>85599706
>some kid on the internet said kys
>so that's what Rose did

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>>85599595
>What is the point humans engaging sexual intercouse if they don't produce the best potential offspring from thier fused gentic instructions?
>oh
>oh I see
>ohhh...
>OH
>OHHHH
>okay
>this needs further study

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>>85599663

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>>85599154

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>>85599739
>Garnet
>Fusion is when two gems form a new being
>But also there's a noticeable feature about the new being
>They will usually have the gems of the components who form them in the same spo-

>Fusion revealed in Giant Woman
>Two Gems = Fusion
>THIS WAS STILL A FUCKING DEBATE FOR TWO YEARS TILL REBECCA SLAPPED EVERYONE WITH THE FUCKING CAPTAIN OBVIOUS WHIP

I've been out of /sug/ due to shitposting on /vp/ because ashy-boy lost

Did any new information come along or new episode titles?

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>>85599574
>"Peridot's limb enhancers are her actual limbs!"

>>85599757
No idea. maybe the bubbles are then found in Saphire's room, and the burning pit is found in Ruby's room.

>>85599757
THAT'S NOT HER ROOM

>>85599739
It wasn't as obvious back then and a lot of people still had doubt up until jailbreak. It progressively got more blatant as the season went on though.

>>85599674
Watching Rose the Messiah go and Quartz Out under stress, revealing the true nature of her kind, was amusing.

>>85599490
Why would anyone vote Jasper?

>>85599757
the heart room isn't hers, I think it's the only consistent room in the temple that exists autonomously

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>>85599674
Anyone have the image of Rose smashing the computer screen instead?

>>85599777
>double-dub trips
wew

>>85599618

Going off of ampudot, some anon theorized that the cluster experiments were Peridot's attempts to get limbs back.

Another "remember when": People thought Rose made the cluster prototypes by using tears as glue. One of the more retarded keikaku-posting moments.

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>>85598526
Memes

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we need an episode where every character dabs at least once

>>85599831
What are the crystal gems going to do to save the world from Peak Oil?

>>85599845
Wait, people honestly thought Rose made the fusion experiments? Damn, there's always been people clamoring to paint her as some completely evil villain hasn't there?

>>85599574
I still like the "Rose is blind" theory

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>>85599801
>It wasn't as obvious back then
It was obvious SOMETHING was up, and when fusion was introduced, it gave a pretty good explanation as to what that might be

>>85599871
It came from Garnet saying 'Rose couldn't have known about this' in Keeping it Together I think, deepest lore fags look for connections everywhere

One episode a week kills the hype.

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/sug/: Tunes Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFRlqHYdOYU

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Why is this show so popular with Mexicans? I swear, half the SU videos on Youtube are in Spanish.

What's the theory of Rose calling Pearl "my pearl"? did Pearl belong to Rose or what?

>>85599920
One Connie episode a week kills the hype desu

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>You suffer because it's what you deserve

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>>85599933

they love their telenovelas

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>>85599801
>>85599892
Gotta agree this shit looks WAY too fucking obvious.
I can only think of one good reason why it wasn't accepted by everyone as the truth or at least headcanon, and it's most likely due to fags who didn't the idea of Garnet the silent leader stereotype, being something entirely new.

>>85598934

>betraying your country is ok, mkay?.
>you are a special snowflake and must kill the people who disagrees with you
>BETRAY THEM ALL

cuck cartoon

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>>85599942
Everyone gets what they deserve, Jasper

>>85599933
You do know Spanish is one of the most spoken languages worlwide right? Not just in Mexico

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>>85598682
Bitch I would spend a night playing games with just Steven. He's fucking bro-tier.
I wouldn't even take notice of all the sweet gem pussy all around us.

>>85599922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOZgQKDZ3i0

>>85599933
>el chapo is secretly a steven universe fan

NOOOOOO
MI TORTA

>>85599969
>betraying your country
Shut up America

>>85599969
The literal fuck are you on about? Are you being ironic?

>cuck
I assume you are using that ironically since you can't post here if you are twelve and this isn't /tv/.

>>85599969
>Implying this isn't a common trope

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>>85599970
true that

>>85599974
Bro-tier?
nigga's 8 years old mentally

>>85599996
I've been trying so hard to lose weight! Yoga and shit!

>>85599971

I'm well aware of that, but saying "the Spanish-speaking world" is too broad. I'm pretty sure the majority of these people are Mexican or at least some part of Latin American.

>>85599996
you'll be disappointed to know both spanish dubs translated it as "NO! MI ALMUERZO!" (no! my lunch!)

>>85599963
People would call it a crackpot theory back then, and even when Sapphire pics were leaked some ppl still had doubts that she was a part of Garnet. I know that as someone who had been watching the episodes as they aired since the first one, I was pretty surprised when they revealed Garnet to be a fusion (well, at least when they showed Ruby and Sapphire I knew what was up).

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Why did Jasper look so surprised when Amethyst hit her with the whip the first time in Earthlings, to the point where she grunted in pain and it sent her flying? In Crack the Whip she grabbed it, and afterward she just let Amethyst's whips hit her and gave no reaction.

>>85600019
wtf

>>85600034
Maybe it was Amethyst's set of shiny, new, spiky balls? Surprise?

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>>85599871
It's been implied that Rose isn't perfect as far back as season 1, with the only person really painting her as such being Pearl. People took it to an extreme and decided that Rose being outright evil would make for a good plot twist, so they've been trying to attach stuff to her forever. It's funny to me that despite everything we've seen and learned about her at this point, people are still clambering to paint her in a completely negative light.

She's a flawed character, but it's hard to be evil in a show where the creators have outright stated that there are no true villains.

>>85600023
Yeah and the point is that Spanish is so widely spoken so of course a show originating from such a nearby place will be popular in Spanish

>>85600036
https://youtu.be/4-zy3w_86iY

>>85600034
It was an upgraded whip with morning stars at the end of them, courtesy of Bismuth.

>>85600034
I don't understand what you aren't understanding. Jasper was standing her ground to show that Amethyst was too weak to beat her even when Jasper wasn't trying.

>>85600018
Believe in Steven you African-American!

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>>85600030
God damn it, that does sound like it was just fucking faggots who didn't like the theory killing the hype for it.


>>85600050
Ironic since they've used the only antagonist that's been effective EVER in this show (Jasper) twice now.

>>85599969
>patriotism is more important than freedom
>>>/pol/

>>85599933
The same reason black people like Dragon Ball Z.