July 2016 Comic Book Sales Report (Top 10's)

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TOP 10 GRAPHIC NOVELS & TRADE PAPERBACKS
> 1. MONSTRESS VOLUME 1 TP (MR) (IMA)
> 2. HARLEY QUINN'S GREATEST HITS TP (DC)
> 3. BATMAN: THE KILLING JOKE SPECIAL EDITION HC (DC)
> 4. STAR WARS: OBI-WAN AND ANAKIN TP (MAR)
> 5. HUCK TP (IMA)
> 6. SOUTHERN BASTARDS VOLUME 3: HOMECOMING TP (MR) (IMA)
> 7. SAGA VOLUME 6 TP (MR) (IMA)
> 8. BONE CODA 25TH ANNIVERSARY TP (CAR)
> 9. WOLVERINE: OLD MAN LOGAN VOLUME 1: BERZERKER TP (MAR)
> 10. AGENTS OF SHIELD VOLUME 1: COULSON PROTOCOLS TP (MAR)

>>85401931
>>Their sales powered by Rebirth, DC Entertainment was July's top publisher with a 35.36% dollar share
Holy shit DCbros, we did it!

>>85401931
>The worst Rebirth book is the top vendor

>>85401931
NEW SUPER-MAN DIDN'T FLOP?! YES!

>>85401931
Good for them, they deserved it. Hopefully this means the DCfriends will be able to calm down a bit from their usual vitriolic victim complex now

Why did Nightwing sell so well?

>>85402051
He's a Bat-Character + Its a #1 issue

>>85402051
>>85402079
Also, the "Rebirth" brand is strong.

>>85401931
NO FRIGGIN WAY THIS TRULY IS A DC UNIVERSE REBIRTH

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>>85401968
I mean Hitch's JL is painfully mediocre, but I'd take it any day over the craptastic, beaten to death concept of heroes vs heroes with tacked on Synergy that Marvel's parading around as their must see title.

The worst Rebirth book being the best selling is ironically hilarious though, but not unexpected considering the brand name and iconic value it holds.

When was the last time DC even had the majority market share for the month? That's very cool to see and hope it continues in that fashion as a more even split would be nice. I wouldn't expect Marvel to change anything to compete, especially with their relaunch coming up in couple months anyways, but hey a diverse market place is a more hospitable one for the consumer.

Dark Horse please continue to exist.

>>85401931
Good job DC

Wasn't Image's market share at near 15% at one point?

>>85402079
>>85402113
Even if was mediocre his previous book ran for more than 153 issues.

>>85402051
He hasn't been Nightwing in two years, people were waiting for it

>>85402048
no way, we still have shitty movies.

>>85402051
A lot of people really wanted Dick back as Nightwing + Dickbabs

>>85402232
Yes, but DC not selling like garbage has eaten up that market share.

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>>85401931
As a DCfag I'm conflicted: on one hand these are good news, but on the other JL is trash, it doesn't deserve the top spots.

>>85402284
Anyone that even remotely cares about the movies has no right to post on /co/ and should fuck off to /tv/ where they belong.

>#1s sell
I don't get it, how's that news?

Holy fuck Nightwing of all things out sold Civil War.

>>85401931
>>85402198
The real test is to see how DC performs, after the first issues stop flowing, against Marvel's fourth relaunch in as many years.

Anyone know when the full sales rankings come out?

>>85402232
yeah Image's was saying they overtake DC by 2020.

obviously Rebirth has brought back fans who wouldn't touch what Image is producing with a 30 foot stick, while they're numbers might be the same there's a new (old) audience out there that only DC is really pandering to.

>>85402362
Monday

Also:
>that AoS Vol. 1 sales

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>>85402316
Will JLA ever a good run as pic related.

>>85402316
As a marvelfag, I'd prefer it to be on the top rather than Civil war.

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What a great time to be a DCfag.

>>85401931
>8. NEW SUPER MAN #1
didn't expect that

>>85402357
>after the first issues stop flowing
Didio said that they've changed their release schedule so that instead of all the #1s coming out this fall, they'd be spread out so every month will have more #1s. That's why Super-sons, among a few others, got delayed

>Post YFW the Trio of Rebirth, Young Animal, and Hanna Barbera

>>85402316
It's THE company book so and it's riding off Johns hype. It's most likely gonna degrade to Venditti GL numbers as the issues go by and people realize it's "eh"

>>85402341
DC becoming top publisher is the news, the fact that it's the 2nd month and it seems like the other DC Rebirth titles haven't slid to ANAD Level Drops is the real news

>>85402362
Next week

>>85402383
No :( there's a chance Tom Scioli's Superpowers Mini could be good though

>>85402170
not
>THIS TRULY IS A DC UNIVERSE REBIRTH #1

>>85402407
He also said #2s have been outselling #1s which is insane

Shops ordering higher numbers for July books after every June launch got multiple prints is a good sign too

>>85402416
But 6/10 are #1s. It's still the same as it is every other month when its a bunch of #1s on top

>>85402472
see
>>85402445

>>85402472
Yeah, but the fact that DC's market share actually grew a huge margin instead of just being slightly better than last month isn't something that's normal. You expect massive drops going from the 1st month to the 2nd month, not this fucking rise.

>Marvel has more books
>More expensive prices
>Still lose to DC
this truly is a DC Universe Rebirth #1

Posting the BC Article for lulz
>http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/08/12/dc-beat-marvels-marketshare-in-july-2016-41-with-a-third-fewer-comics/

>I understand last month that there were ructions in the hallways at DC Comics, over the news that in the first month of DC Rebirth, they came nowhere close to challenging Marvel Comics for dominance. But that was a month in which most of the titles had not undergone the Rebirth process. Indeed in August we are still seeing the books go through that relaunch. We may not be able to properly judge its success or failure for a few months

>However this is the figure that DC Comics was waiting for,

>Last month DC placed seven titles in the top ten saw their marketshare moving from May’s dollar share of 26.45% and sales share of 26.34% to June’s 29.93% and 31.69%. Well July has given them 35.36% of the dollar share and 40.96% of the number of comics sold.

>While Marvel Comics has dropped to 34.20% and 35.69%. It’s a rout. DC Comics also take the top three with Justice League and Batman, Civil War II knocked to fourth and seventh place respectively as DC Comics take 8 spots.

>Also note that Marvel had 87 comics out in July. And DC had 63, a third fewer.

>cont

>>85402316
well don't show up next month when the top 10 will look like

1) Harley Quinn #1
2) Suicide Squad #1
3) Harley Quinn #2
4) Suicide Squad Rebirth
5) Batman
6) Justice League
7) Batman
8) Justice League
9) Superwoman
10) Darth Vader

also no Civil War in August looks like DC can scratch out another month against Marvel, hopefully when Marvel Now Again flops Axel and company will finally be fired.

>>85402544
>Image Comics has also recovered slightly to a 8.15% dollar share and a 7.56% sale share, still down on their 10% usual figure.

>June 2016 also saw a massive reversal in the downwad slump that had been hitting comic book store sales this year, in one move changing a two figure digit drop for the year to a single figure, with just one month’s sales with a 31.77% rise in dollars spent and a 38.59% rise in comics sold. Sales are down on that for July, but that’s comparing a four week to a five week month – and they are not down a week’s worth.

>June was the best news for a comic book retailer all year. July continues that story.

>Diamond also reports that The Walking Dead #156 was Image Comics’ best-selling book in July at #32. ROM #1 was IDW Publishing’s top book at #75. And Dark Horse Comics’ Black Hammer #1, ranked #117.

I wonder how the Outhousers will spin this as a negative seeing.

>>85402544
>>85402576
>caring about BC or Outhouse at all

Huh, why is CWII: #3 higher than #4?

>>85402592
they called me a DC Shill and called me stupid for thinking DC Rebirth will actually be a success. Oh boy do I care.

>>85401931
>a Nightwing issue selling more than a CW2 issue

Good, fuck this event
I hope sales for it drop even more.

>>85402595
because the readers are dropping the book?

> No Titans or Flash on the list.

As a Flashfag I'm disappointed.

>>85402682
#1s will always overtake you unless you're Batman.

>>85402637
That's what I was hoping

>>85402595
#4 came out on a 5th Wednesday without any DCR books so fans probably skipped going to the shop

also Marvel did one of their patented reveal the plot twist days before the actual comic comes out .

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>>85401931
>DC overtakes Marvel's share while publishing over 1/3rd less singles than them.
There we go.

>>85402682
Titans Rebirth sold like 75k so the #1 issue is somewhere around there
This top 10 list probably isn't below 90k

>>85401931
Civil war lost, YES

>>85402739
Don't forget Marvel has maybe 3 or 4 $2.99 books. The rest are 4 or even 5 dollars. It's insane that people buy shit that expensive.

>>85402739
>Mousketeers in the BC section already backtracking and saying that DC only made a tiny bit more money since it was just %1 more

>>85402821
>3 or 4
Try none unless you count those animated show tie-in comics.

>>85402841
>Mousketeers
Fuck off with this, stop trying to make this into company wars.

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>>85402576
>June was the best news for a comic book retailer all year. July continues that story.
DC saving LCSes from bankruptcy.

>>85401931
>New Superman

YES YES YES YES YES

FINALLY A NEW CHARACTER I LIKE THAT DOESN'T GET SHITTY SALES NUMBERS

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>>85401931
>VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC 1.03%

#8 BABY IT'S HABBADUNG

D-does this mean my Flintstones Comic won't get cancelled?

August is going to be a massacre good lord

>>85402990
Didio, for all his faults, likes to give books chances even when they don't deserve it.

>>85402990
Only the good die young anon.

>>85402341

It's not. In fact, Rebirth is faring worse as a re-launch than New 52 did.

>>85402890
Wait until the issue 2 sales before you celebrate, anon
No use if he sells 90k and then drops to 25k within two issues

>>85402930
We're moving upwards, senpai!

>>85403022
Lol not even remotely true.

Go compare the numbers from Batman #1 New 52 and Batman #1 Rebirth. I can wait.

>>85402720
That wouldn't even remotely effect comic sales because these numbers are just pre-orders not actual sales.

>>85403022
It's not though
A lot of books are selling more this relaunch than the last

>>85403060

One title does not make a rebirth, senpai. Go compare the Market share. I can't wait.

>>85403112
New 52 launch wasn't staggered you absolute cockwit.

>>85403026
Arent the first few months returnable?

We won't have a proper gauge for rebirth sales until like December

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>>85403043
>mfw we overtake Archie and we appear in the pie chart very soon

I'm so happy that New Super-Man is that high. First issue was good, but the second one was even better, it's shaping up to be a really enjoyable story.

>>85403112
>1 releases all their #1s in one go in one month effectively cannibalizing the books where only the strong will survive but ensuring a strong first few months
>1 releases the #1s spread out per month so readers can give multiple books a try so they can drop it just in time for the next #1
Rebirth didn't blow all its load in one month, no shit thew New 52 would have better market share.

>>85403165
Adam Hughes can't draw Betty and Veronica forever.

>>85403165
We already beat Dynamite.
Which is shame, I like a lot of their books.

>>85403129

2nd month of New 52, you Mongloid:

Market share

DC 50.97%
Marvel 30.29%

>>85403270
I will kill myself when we defeat Dark Horse, they used to be my publisherfu.

>>85403273
You do realize New 52 had 52 fucking #1s compared to DC Rebirth right?

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>>85401931
We did it, DCbros! We finally beat the SJWs! Someone should storytime all the rebirth books to celebrate.

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DC bring out about half the books that Marvel does, and nearly all of their books are at least a dollar cheaper (If not two or 3 in some cases) and they still managed to get a slightly larger market share and unit share. Very happy with this, good comics are selling as they should. Its also great that they didn't release everything in one go, there are still books yet to come out to be excited for, JSA, Super Sons, LoSH to name a few. what a time to be alive for a DC Fan

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This is why the big wigs at Marvel are acting pissy over spoilers.

Niggas is shook.

Praise Morp!

Which if your favorite no top 5 publisher ?

I like avatar press and devils due

>put out good, cheap product
>do well

All is right in the world.

>>85403427
Praise peaches!

>>85403345
Don't frame it in these terms you retard. Rebirth is good specifically because it found a good balance towards catering to fans of all different wants and needs.

>>85403449
Praise kek!

>>85403405
wtf are they smoking they gave away Hulk's Death on a fucking Sunday, they don't have any right to get all pissy BC blew up their awful Previews book

>>85403270
But one day Dynamite began to hire sjws...

>>85403427
>he's Morpfag
Go away, Gerald is superior.
>>85403478
Yeah, probably. I'm not reading much of their current books.

>>85403478
that why you dont read Dynamite, most of their current books are trash

>>85401999
THIS IS LITERALLY THE BEST NEWS

I'm really happy for Yang. He deserved this after his Superman run got botched with crossover shit.

>>85403431
Boom publishes a surprising number of books that I like.

>>85403431
Zenescope, I appreciate their variant covers and their commitment to continuity,now if they could only find an interior artist who can draw.

>>85403341

OK. But the second month on New 52 was all #2s and DC had a 20% market share lead. With this staggered release, DC has a 1% lead. My guess is DC will have a 3 or 4% lead this month at the very most then maybe 1-2% and then things will start normalizing quickly.

>>85403515
>after his Superman run got botched with crossover shit
JRJR didn't help either

>>85403593
That has nothing to do with anything you dope. Marvel wasn't in the midst of a hugely marketed event when the New 52 launched.

The books are selling a magnitude more than comparable new 52 titles is the only important take away.

>>85402576
>I wonder how the Outhousers will spin this as a negative seeing.


By canceling Agent of SHIELD!!

>>85403449
Praise Gerald!

>>85403669
AoS hasn't given the NOW! 2.0 blessing, so expect a relaunch at some point in the future (please be a writer change).

>>85403593
It wasn't till Marvel abused the system did it became for #2 issues to drop low fast.

>>85403669
What?

>>85403631

But that is simply not true. Flash #1 sold less than New 52 Flash #1. Green Lantern #1 sold less than New 52 Flash #1. Superman #1 sold less than New 52 Superman....

>>85401955
>TKJ will be in the top 10 selling TPBs for all eternity

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>>85403904

>>85403720

>abused the system

Marvel has had like one more numerical re-launch than DC at this point. I love how DCfags try to exaggerate everything negative about Marvel.

DC has rebooted it's universe several times making massive changes to their continuity and Marvel has never rebooted...EVER. Let's talk about that, senpai.

>>85403964
Three 1956,1985 and 2011.

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>>85401931
New Super Man is doing ok?
How? Is this a miracle, has the average reader finally gotten some good taste?

>>85403782
well those were the 1st number ones in 30 years.

It's like comparing the MacFarlane Spider-Man #1 to Bendis' Spider-Man #1

>>85403990
He is pretty much 90s kon el.

>>85403720
If publishers don't put 500 variants on everything and especially not incentive ones, you'll find that the issue 1 or issue 2 drop isn't that bad.

>>85403964
We will once you stop being mad and/or a casual.

Have they released the sales numbers for individual titles yet? I'm curious how the first rebirth titles are doing in terms of drop off.

>>85403964
Marvel have relaunched 3 times in 4 years, DC have done it 3 times in 77 years.Marvel has abused the system, DC did it most recently because it was necessary, Marvel does it because most of their books reach cancellation levels about #12

>>85403990
no they just see Superman #1 and gave it a shot, it'll be the lowest selling S book in August.

>>85404028
>DC did it most recently because it was necessary,

Explain this.

>>85403964
It's not about the amount of times.

Last year we had two first and second issues of Squirrel Girl, Howard the Duck, Spider-Gwen and Silk. THAT'S abusing the system.

>>85401931
I remember image being bigger than that

did image lose part of the pie, or did the pie become bigger?

>>85404090
DCYou flopped big time.

>>85403782
>Green Lantern #1 sold less than New 52 Flash #1

Johns ain't on the book anymore and Venditti isn't doing it any favors for people that did enjoy his run. Unless you mean Green Lanterns which had Dogfucker at the helm who against all odds somehow made the book enjoyable.

>>85404122
Probably both? DC selling better is eating up image's share a bit I imagine

>>85404090
DCYou flopped, even if it had good books they needed to get back to basics.

>>85403964
>DC has rebooted it's universe several times making massive changes to their continuity and Marvel has never rebooted...EVER. Let's talk about that, senpai.

>Golden to Silver Age
>Crisis on Infinite Earths
>Flashpoint

What else is there? Things like Zero Hour and Infinite Crisis were just continuity touch-ups, not reboots.

>>85404122
People stopped buying into movie pitches. It also doesn't help that they've gone back to putting out an issue in a month followed by a 6 month break

>>85404122
I see people complaining about Image delays, and most Image fans have probably converted to trades.

>>85404122
Image began to die when it started to publish gay furry

>>85404149
I dunno, they may do comics but they are not direct competition.

The quality of the movie pitches hasn't changed much either, Image was always a love it or hate it deal.

I think the pie got bigger. I'd say movies but Americans vehemently reject the idea.

>>85404176
>an issue in a month followed by a 6 month break

This is a possible factor. also depends entirely on the artist.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall at Marvel right now

>>85404205
>I see people complaining about Image delays
Since its founding.

>>85404155
>>85404128
So DCYou flopped, and that's why it was necessary, so it's justified, but Marvel does it and it isn't?

Truly, DC stands for DINDUNUFFIN COMICS in this board.

>>85404247
And to see Bendis and Coates DPing Wilson? No thanks.

>>85404028
Marvel is trying (and failing) to adopt a seasonal approach like a tv show to their comic books. Every fall flood the market with #1s and jumping on points that end or fizzle out when the annual Spring-Summer crossover starts.

>>85403782
Green Lanterns and Green Lantern are not comparable titles.

Dogfucker sales should be compared to Green Lantern Corps for comparisons sake. Hal and the GLC is the obstensible main title.

Rebirth Superman outsold New 52 Superman.

You are correct about Flash, but Rebirth Flash didn't come off a Johns run and has a pretty C-List creative team.

>>85404239
Being a Red one fan is suffering i have to wait a year for one issue.

>>85404255
They've gone full ham with the delays recently though. The creative behind it didn't care cause they just wanted to get their names out there to be picked up by Hollywood.

And that's exactly what happened

>>85404280
Just wait another year or two anon, the pendulum will swing back into marvel's favor

>>85404280
DCYou had abysmal sales, and no amount of tinkering would fix it, DCYou was meant to fix the New52 and it got even worse. Marvel had 2 spiderman #1's in a year, thats not fucking on

> 4. CIVIL WAR II #3 (MAR)

Bendis on suicide watch

> 8. NEW SUPER MAN #1 [*] (DC)

K E N A N
E
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A
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>>85403270
Since when does Dynamite have readable books, let alone good ones?

>>85404346
>and it got even worse
From a quality stand point, DCYou had great books.

>>85404302
>Dogfucker sales should be compared to Green Lantern Corps for comparisons sake. Hal and the GLC is the obstensible main title
Publishing GLs before HJGLC and putting Simon and Jessica in the JL make it seem like GLs is meant to be the main title

>DC Entertainment was July's top publisher with a 35.36% dollar share and a 40.96% unit share

Thank god, maybe now Marvel will be forced to get their shit together. Fix that talent scouting department.

>>85404284
This is not a stable thing to do though. How are you going to keep a fanbase when everyone will just say "Fuck it, i'll wait until the fall and start then" This is not a good thing at all, Comic book are not and should not be like television.

>>85404383
Nah, they'll just learn that they need some new #1s and maybe do variants like DC is doing them now

>Dark Horse's highest is Black Hammer at 117

:'(

>>85402051
Dick has been selling about the same as A-list characters for a while now even as Grayson. He's popular.

>>85404363
I know that, but sales declined and people got turned away, fantastic books like Omega men were below the cancellation line and would have been canceled if it were nit for fan outcry. DC were stuck between a rock and a hard place, and a relaunch was the only thing to do and it's given us pretty good comics with some hopefully great ones coming out in the next few months

>>85404335
In sales, yes. In quality, never.

>>85404363
Yeah, but no one wanted to touch DC after Convergence.

>>85404405
50:50 variants from Marvel lol

>>85404414
On the plus side, Black Hammer is cool.

>>85404405
let me dream for just a few days man before doing this

fucking Marvel, they'll never learn

>>85404405
DC aren't doing incentive variants are they? I know every book ships with 2 covers, but it's not a case of "Buy 100 of these for a variant cover of Deadpool #1" is it?

>>85404450
No I mean eventually /co/ will hate dc and fellate marvel

>>85404334
>most of 1990's
>I want to fucking imitate one or more of the Image founders for $$$!

>current decade
>I want to fucking write some crime/gritty/sci-fi/mystery comics for a chance at Hollywood!

Well deserved!

The Rebirth books have been good for the most part! Bravo DC!

>>85401955
I really liked the first volume of Monstress. I'm glad it's #1.

It's too bad Southern Bastards is still just establishing the cast and setting though. I dig the slow burn but hopefully shit finally gets real next volume.

>>85404302

You're trying to cherry pick. Rebirth Superman is a one off and is part of a special event. It's not a true #1. Rebirth is both a major event and a re-launch at once.

The true Superman #1 for the ongoing series of Rebirth sold 105K and the New 52 Superman #1 sold 118k.

>>85404403
>Comic book are not and should not be like television.

Comic books need sales, whatever gets sales is what companies will do. If TV's model works, then companies will make them work within that model. If they don't, then try something else. Traditionalism has been a huge part of comics being stale and should not be respected.

>>85404414
And it's a #1. The Horse will be put down soon, I fear.

>>85404491
Naw, not unless DC is #1 in sales, which, >>85404450 states correctly, won't happen. /co/ is contrarian and Marvel is the norm.

>>85404353
I'm hilariously easy to entertain.
>>85404519
>And it's a #1. The Horse will be put down soon, I fear.
What went wrong?

Thank God.

Finally the readers turn their back at Bendis's awful writing and at Marvel's shitty events.

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>>85404280
It's more a different side of the same coin. DC did it because their shit was failing (some even at sub-10k which is worse than some Image books) and it was a last ditch effort to get nostalgiafags in. Marvel had Secret Wars and thought they could get a second #1 in the same year for that delicious return investment. In DCs case it seems to be working, in Marvels it's continued to fail as sales drop below what they were at before they even relaunched just 3-4 issues later.

If they just did it with new artists/writers to seperate runs I probably wouldn't mind as much but things like Waid Daredevil, Squirrel Girl, Carol Marvel, Spider-Gwen and Howard the Duck don't change anything about the team but get a new #1 just for a sale boost because people eat that shit up.

>>85404488
The past few years DC has mostly saved the incentive variants for the big books. Multiversity and DK3 were the last books I remember it every issue. The only normal title that had frequent incentive variants beyond that was Harley. I honestly can't remember a normal book that had them besides her and one issue of Starfire.

In Rebirth there are some books that have retailer exclusive variants (Batman, Harley, JL) for the first issue but I'm not sure how much that affects the preorder numbers. It's different from the incentive ones though like you're describing.

>>85404488
DC just ships 2 covers to order and retailer exclusives for the more high profile #1s

>>85404537
/co/ legitimately hated DC like they do marvel now from 2011 until the end of Forever Evil despite the norm was loving marvel thanks to the movies and new 52.

>>85404463
Yeah, it's great. Lemire indies are a whole other level from his capeshit

>>85404542
A meme: DH is dead because they don't make Star Wars comics anymore.

>>85404363
Quality was only in the fringe stuff that was pretty much never going to sell. The main line of books were "ok" at best with a lot of shit (WW, GL, Flash, Aquaman, JL)

>>85404580
Because New 52 ushered in a bunch of new fans, /co/ couldn't have that. Rebirth targets the nostalgiafags, so you know they won't grow too much. The movies will keep Marvel as the norm for a long time.

>>85404504
Considering how last volume ended, I think the Reckoning is a comin.

>>85404383
So long as they're not losing massively, it'll be business as usual. Seasonal #1s followed by an event that leads to another relaunch. Anger based marketing and content creation. Loud cries of anguish from their fans being "good marketing and sound publishing strategy."

>>85404542
>What went wrong?

Losing SW didn't help, but really it's a lack of cultivation of talent and original IPs. They depend too much on licenses (and they do great work with most of them), but they never got a second Mignola.

>>85404205
This. Image sells better in trades and most of those sales aren't Diamond's jurisdiction.

The only reason they were ever at 10% in the direct sales market is because they were launching like four high-profile #1s a month, and that's all floppy buyers care about.

>>85401931
>NEW SUPER MAN #1
Holy shit. HOLY SHIT. Is this going to be a hit? Please tell me anons. Please tell me.

>>85404715
Even if it tanks fast it will last a while due to the rest of the line selling well and editorial support due to it having been Jim Lee's idea. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

>>85404682
They don't even try to promote their original stuff, it's like they don't even care.

>>85404682
When was the last time Dark Horse's top comic for a given month is not licensed or Mignolaverse?

>>85404759
Probably not since Sin City

>>85404647
This is so delusional. Nostalgia is a far more strong factor in order to keep up with a comic book series, instead of just pick up a couple of issues, and then drop them afterwards, loke the normfags usually do.

>>85404682
>Losing SW didn't help
That meme I mentioned before.

>>85404759
Maybe The Goon, or Concrete.

>>85402558
Anon you don't have All Star Batman in your top 5. That's a top 5 book

>>85404715
I doubt it but since it was Lee's idea and a Superbook it'll probably get at least 12

>>85404773
Or 300

>>85404759
Literally this month?

>>85401931
This won't last for much longer. Mar(e)vil's gonna #1 in two months tops.

>>85404647
>Rebirth targets the nostalgiafags, so you know they won't grow too much

That's kind of the exact opposite of what retailers are describing. They're seeing new readers across the board coming in for Rebirth (and people branching out to other publishers, too). Nostalgia couldn't really do that -- and even if it *did*, the fact that it's helping out ALL publishers means that it'll probably last.

>>85404647
There's newer stuff packaged in nostalgia though. Teen Titans is mostly new characters, Blue Beetle still seems to star Jaime who has only just been around 10 years, New Super-Man, Nightwing is just Grayson in a different outfit that seems to be attacking going back to the Nightwing identity itself.

It's pretty clever, but I guess that's kind of Johns' calling card anyway. Newer stuff packaged in old.

>>85404886
DC has said that their Rebirth books have actually done better in the #2s and #3s than with the #1s. It might hold steady for a while.

Now Again doesn't seem to have a lot of #1s that should do well. Hell they just failed to get a Captain American #1 to even break 100k a few months ago.

>>85402558
You forgot All Star Batman

Honestly it's hard to say what the list will be next time.

With two Harley books, two Suicide Squad books at the time of the movie, ASB, and two normal Batman,, that's 7 DC books that will at least be in the top 15, if not top 10. Darth Vader may be on in the top 10 list but Superwoman won't make it that high.

>>85404861
That wasn't a DH book. Or was it?

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Sad that this and vision are ending soon.

>>85404969
Yes DH. 300 was initially published as a monthly five-issue comic book limited series by Dark Horse Comics

>>85404935
>but Superwoman won't make it that high

Honestly I wouldn't have said it before but New Super-Man just made the top 10 with a brand new character and literally who creators. Superwoman has a popular creator and a main character people already know (even if she seems to be dead at the end of the issue). It might make it up there.

>>85405024
>the more you know.jpg

>>85401931
>> 7. CIVIL WAR II #4 (MAR)
GET REKT BENDIS

>>85405028
>literally who creators.
Well I wouldn't say Gene Yang is a literally who. Everything he writes (and he mostly writes GNs) debuts on NY times top 10 seller. Capeshit fags might not know him though.

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>>85405055
Another miller book published by Dark horse.

>>85401931
>6. NIGHTWING REBIRTH #1 [*] (DC)
>7. CIVIL WAR II #4 (MAR)
>two Nightwing issues in top 10

Poor Batgirl though, lol

>>85404833
I forgot about it lol it'll be the #1 book for sure

Bump DV off the list.

>>85405100
Yeah I just mean that he doesn't carry much recognition in the LCS market. His first actual Superman issue only did like 50k (compared to Johns' first issue on the same book at almost 90k, though that was probably a little inflated by a Bombshells variant).

>>85404715
I hope so too. It's started out really enjoyable, I can imagine people who checked it out will be sticking with it. At least some.

>>85405131
Batgirl probably did ok and I wouldn't expect lower than like 80k for the #1. All the books in the top 10 right there likely broke 100k, maybe even higher at like 120k honestly since CW2 #4 shouldn't be too low unless it has really crashed fast.

>>85404283

It would be l-lewd if you take Bendis out of the picture

>>85403001
Tell that to Prez Vol 2.

>>85401931
I guess filling the market with shit didn't work for Marvel...wow, who could have seen that not working?

>>85405114
“BIG GUY and CIA the Hot Head

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>>85405217
Maybe similar to her previous book.

>>85405225
Not his fault Caldwell signed with Marvel.

>>85405028
Nah. "New Super-Man" is eyecatching as fuck as a title. Phil Jimenez isn't *that* popular (similar to how Liam Sharp wasn't that popular among recent readers), and Superwoman could easily get lower sales due to being based on woman. I mean, Batgirl didn't make the top 10, and Birds of Prey didn't either.

>>85405245
For you. The cartoon was also decent.

>>85405225
Did they get rid of Prev vol 2 so we can have Midnighter & Apollo?

I honestly don't think it's worth it.

>>85403026
Now way it's going to drop that low. Titles usually settle around the 35 - 40% of first issue.

>>85401955
>Monstress selling like hotcKes
AWW YISSS!

>>85405290
I don't know if it's really that simple but Middy doing better in trades might have pushed his priority ahead of Prez.

I like the theory that Prez v2 was cancelled because it was influencing reality too much.

>>85405382
>it was influencing reality too much
How? In spoilers, please

>>85405447
Read the goddamn comic you piece of shit mongoloid

These pie charts really send home just how small D&Q and Fantagraphics are... it's wild.

>>85405479
you're not wrong but don't bully him for his ignorance

>>85405270
No he didn't. Caldwell was a free agent, he kept saying Prez Vol 2 was coming on CBR forums. He's also not on any Marvel books currently or any Now 2.0 books. Russell made it sound like him and Caldwell have stuff coming out in future although didn't mention from where, but it sounds like DC is putting that team together for a new gig.

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>chart reminds you of the Bane mask

>>85401931
>> 8. NEW SUPER MAN #1 [*] (DC)
Wow. Happy but surprised to see this up there.

>>85405290
Well Middy is a minority character written by minority writer. They announced that relaunch on NY times at the end of prides month. Plus it was selling better in floppies, digitally and most definitely has better legs in bookstore market.

>>85405378
I am not usually a deepest lore kind of guy but this comic makes me a deepest lore guy, it is just good shit.

>>85405447
Well anon it looks like reality is currently more absurd than the satire.

>>85405494
>don't bully
Yeah no

I'm fucking tired of the same three anecdotes being passed from thread to thread because fucks refuse to read comics and articles and want everything bogged down to buzzwords and greentext.

Try making a Steranko thread, it'll be a six-hundreth fucking circlejerk of how he slapped Bob Kane, oh wow haven't seen that one before, don't you have a pixellated bunch of twitter screencaps to go with that?

The comics discussion quality has dropped thousandfold in the past five years and it's majorly thanks to this "phnomena"

>>85405609
I know all of this, and I liked the book and character a lot.... it's just... Prez was so much better, really sucks that we cant get the second of half of that series.

I'm happy for Middy and everything but losing Prez really sucks.

>>85405666
Whether he reads the comic or not has nothing to do with social media anecdotes. /co/ has gotten worse but I'm not sure how you've made the connection here. Seems like you're upset about something unrelated.

>>85404044
Bullshit China-Bats and China-Woman are fucking gold. If anyone who bought the first issue got to the last page they were patiently waiting for #2. I could easily be wrong but I think the China-Trinity is going to move some numbers.

>>85405666
>have 1 TB of comics
>don't have time to read them because life
>get scolded by /co/
;_;

I just want Blue Beetle and Supergrill to do great...

>>85402595
#3's the one where the Hulk dies, gotta get that controversy bump

>>85405701
Well we'll get 12 page special and Flintstones is still alive.

>>85401931
I wonder where Snotgirl ended up
I'm guessing around #65-70

>>85405704
He's getting that info and retelling it in the next Prez thread. Another clueless cunt catches it there and retells in another thread. Another asshead catches it fron there and now you find yourself arguing with them because apparently you didn't read the book and didn't "get" it the way they did.

I'm spitballing but the point is: you can't properly discuss a comic if 8 out of 10 people haven't read but "have opinions about it" from second hand sources

>>85405783
>Supergirl
She'll do fine. Maybe she has the Green Arrow effect.

>>85405783
...children? Ted wouldn't survive the sex

>>85405666
Okay, Satan.

>>85405901
Some people do that but I don't find that it's a major problem on here. Mostly it's the fact that we can't really sustain discussion unless it's a storytime of a new issue or something generic like Bendis-hate. Old issues only get talk when they're storytimes of pain or one of the regular posters who run stuff. Most of the time there's just not enough people in the same threads actually caring about the material enough to say anything worthwhile.

>>85406160
>>85405666
>DC sells to old neckbeards again
>old neckbeards celebrate by whining about evil evil casuals

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>>85403477
No I think they gave it away on Monday or Tuesday. Because the news came up right after Slott and Brevoort were visibly upset about Rich Johnston spoiling creator line-ups.

>>85405028
That's some shaky grounds. If anything Supergirl might barely make it on there thanks to her show, but I doubt she will either, competition is tough in August.

>>85401931
>> 4. CIVIL WAR II #3 (MAR)
All that hype over a death of a major character and retailers decided to order more Justice League and a Batman issue over it.

>>85406323
With the returnability dampener on the Rebirth books I wonder how close it was to falling further. It's 10% decrease for those.

>>85401931
>comics marked with an asterisk (*) have had their reported quantities reduced due to retailer returnability, and thus may rank lower on the charts than their actual sales would reflect.
How much have they been reduced?

>>85406366
Shit, I almost forgot about that.

>>85406383
Judging by last month's sale, the average is about 10%, up to ~15% on bigger titles (like Batman).

So, if the numbers come out like "200K for JL #1", it's probably more like 225K.

>>85406383
10% I believe

>>85406383
20%

>>85406471
Not only am I surprised that DC overtook Marvel but they did it with a 10-15% handicap

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>>85401955
Oh shit, I forgot about Bone: Coda.
I'll have to pick it up next time I'm out.

>>85406522
I don't think it's that much. Percy said GA Rebirth was at 90k and the reported figure was 81k.

>>85406564
It's a lot better than I expected. Smith is right to call it a superfluous story, it doesn't have any real relevance to the main story but it was really good.

Truly a time to be alive

>>85405918
Supergirl is a decent seller her books alway tend to last.

>>85404334
>The creative behind it didn't care cause they just wanted to get their names out there to be picked up by Hollywood.
Why do people say this
The only people at Image who has any movie/TV deals going are Kirkman, Millar, and Snyder has one for Wytches I think that probably won't be made.

Meanwhile Marvel and DC are literally film and TV companies now that also publish comics.

>>85406753
They create the books in hopes it'll get picked up.

It was pretty blatantly back in 2013-2014 after TWD fucking exploded in 2012.

And more books than the ones you listed have deals. Descender is getting a movie iirc

>>85404493
>I want to fucking imitate one or more of the Image founders for $$$ and maybe a a chance at Hollywood!

Fixed. You forgot that in the 90s there were people going after movie deals, too. The only difference is that Hollywood stuff barely got made back then.

>>85406753
Rucka and Scott just had Black Magick picked up

>>85404542
/co/ memeing. Everytime Dark Horse comes up people say they're dying. Been that way for a couple of years now.

But everytime you read an interview with DH Prez Mike Richardson all he talk about is how the company is doing great and having massive growth outside of comic shops in every department.

In a CBR interview couple of years ago he even said they had a better year than ever before including the 90's.

>>85406545
Not only that but DC put out 2/3 the product Marvel did at a lower price point

>>85406753
When you say move/TV deals going do you mean they got optioned or are they actually going through with it? Cause a lot of books got optioned like Chew and Peter Panzerfaust and all that but nothing came of it.

>>85406876
Doesnt DH also translated manga.

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>>85401931
Fantastic news for DC. Marvel must learn they can't just shit out anything and be top dog.

surprised New Superman is doing that well.

>>85406876
>the president of a company says they're doing good

Well then, they must be! Never mind their falling numbers.

>>85406876
They did move from #6 to #5 among NA comic publishers in bookstore sales the last year.

>>85406908
They did some European comics, too. Like Dylan Dog and such.

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>>85406610
That's good. I wouldn't have wanted it to be a part of the main story. That's over.
I'll gladly buy a book of nothing but the Bone cousins' shenanigans.

>>85406753
Things don't necessarily go into production, but deals get made from Image (and other indies) all. the. time.

Like, if you scoured the internet from the past year, you'd probably find at least a dozen comics that have been optioned for Hollywood movies/shows. But that doesn't mean anything (besides giving the comic creators a nice, fat check).

>>85406810
>They create the books in hopes it'll get picked up.
How would you know that enough to say? Maybe they just create the books to make money from comic sales?

The only people who we can prove have done this are the people who had deals before the first arc was over, or before the comic even launched, like Rucka, Millar and Snyder.

>>85406876
They're also publishing some legit great titles like Black Hammer or Harrow County.

>>85404759
Gerard Way's series with Cloonan.

Although they have that new Whedon series and new Umbrella Academy on the way so things aren't that bleak.

>>85406956
>How would you know that enough to say? Maybe they just create the books to make money from comic sales?

He can't, it's just big 2 kiddies maymaying

>>85406954
Yeah, but again that doesn't mean these people created these comics to sell as TV shows.

>>85402051
Nightwing has always sold well + classic costume + seeley still on the title

>>85401931
>New Super-Man outselling Red Hood, Hal Jordan, and Batgirl

wow

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>>85401931
The kings are back

>>85405489
In Diamond numbers, e.g. Dark Horse non-LCS stuff goes through Random House not diamond.

I highly doubt Fanta and D&Q go through Diamond.

>>85406938
Cool

>>85407054
should give Bat-Man a spinoff too at this rate

>>85406956
>>85407011
You need only look at the few publishers that *aren't* constantly getting these deals (Black Mask Studios and Aftershock come to mind), and you can begin to see the difference in style and intent between their series and those from Image.

>>85407121
If it's a super hit they might try JLC. I doubt it. Well time to see how CBR and other normies are freaking out about this.

Are there any good podcasts centered around comic books?

>>85407182
Well I don't think there's any one style that runs through the majority of their books, but if you're talking about writing like a TV show that probably comes more from trying to imitate Saga's success, since that's how BKV writes.

>>85407266
Most of them just shill. I like a bunch of the old Fatman episodes but now it's just Bernardin dying to talk about faggot shit and Smith slowly losing his happy optimism about things. It has some pretty in depth shit before it became a more /tv/ podcast.

>>85407266
I don't listen to them regularly but Word Balloon has been ok when I've listened during interviews with creators I care about.

>>85406924
>>85406934

By this metric most of the industry must be dying, plenty of companies are dying. Publishers have dips and rises all the fucking time, it's doesn't mean DH is gonna close their doors.

I bet you won't even post these "falling numbers" you meme posting fuck.

>>85407266
Word balloon and sktchd are pretty good

>>85404895
Also, Superman's son, Green Lanterns, Superwoman, etc

>>85401955
>> 1. MONSTRESS VOLUME 1 TP (MR) (IMA)
best 10$ you will ever spend

>>85404931
I think it might be that retailers under-ordered on #1s, and now the books that came out in the first month (Batman, Flash, etc) are getting #1 level sales this month

>>85406924
You do realize that Dark Horse goes through Random House for everything non-LCS, right?

So all their stuff that gets sold in bookstores, amazon, instocktrades, bookdepository etc doesn't show up in Diamond numbers

diamond numbers aren't accurate, even for floppies as DH sells those outside of the US as well and those aren't counted by Diamond.

That goes for every comics company, really.

>>85407354
Dark Horse

Share of Overall Units
>Jan 2013 3.62%
>Jun 2016 1.76%

Share of Overall Dollars
>Jan 2013 4.55%
>Jun 2016 2.81%

Items in Top 300
>Jan 2013 17
>Jun 2016 9

Sorry, kid, you tangled with the wrong man this time around.

>>85406938
They did some Hermann stuff as well.

Oh and they have Moebius library series HCs coming this autumn.

>>85402739
I'm glad Marvel ships a lot of books. Let people buy trash like Avengers books or X-men, as long as this ship this many that means there will be good lesser bought ones. Unless they were making money off those big sellers they wouldn't be putting out Moon Knight or Nighthawk.

>>85407410
Lel don't make me laugh

>>85407495
OK, you want DH dead. Why?

>>85407474
Random House sells floppies outside the US? Never knew that.

I don't think the international sales matter much anyway, much be chump change.

>>85407605
God, you capefags can't be this stupid.

>>85407588
Actually I don't (>>85403318), I do want whoever is responsible to die, though.

>>85407637
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>85407605
Dark Horse sold floppies in Finnish bookstores for over a decade, lots of Star Wars but other licensed stuff as well.

Of course we can't have nice things, so once Marvel got SW they stopped selling them in Finland. Still have some DH stuff like Buffy last I checked.

>>85401931
Thank You Based Johns.

So fucking glad that for once Marvel's even faggotry is backfiring on them.

>>85407474
Dark Horse is reported separately in the bookscan numbers, not lumped with Random House: http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/tilting-at-windmills-bookscan-2015-analysis

>>85407754
I was talking about Diamond's numbers and that they don't represent the total number of sold floppies or trades. Very much not in the case of trades.

say,how come dark horse even after so many years have not made new mask comics?

>>85408069
Can't top based Arcudi and Mahnke. No point in trying.

>>85405098
>Bendis gets the two top ten spots of Marvel
>tells him to get REKT
If anyone's gonna get REKT is the rest of the writers in the company

>>85408235
Imagine being... I don't know. Ewing, or Slott. Someone who research and shit. And you see Civil War 2.
I'm probably wrong about Slott, but he looks like he knows shit and backstories.

>>85408321
Slott is pissed because him and Bendis are engaged in Dueling Spiders.
Poor Ewing has to run damage control though.

>>85408235
It's selling like shit compared to Hackman's event last year

Bendis on suicide watch

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>>85408321
I could see Slott being upset about Bendis' treatment of She-Hulk because he not only wrote She-Hulk, he was pissed off about Chuck Austen's She-Hulk/Juggernaut story in Uncanny X-Men.

And maybe Waid got irritated at this panel.

>>85408503

Secret War was a cool concept. Civil War II is a lame concept. But, yeah, if Bendis came up with the whole Civil War II idea then fuck him.

>>85404580
>/co/ legitimately hated DC like they do marvel now from 2011 until the end of Forever Evil
This is just wrong. In that time period /co/ was one of the few places that didn't have such an obvious anti-DC bias on the net. There was no "legitimate hatred".

>>85401931
>It's okay when DC does it!

this company needs to die

>>85409474
t. rustled marvel intern

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>>85406236
>Thank heaven we have "news sites" to spoil our entertainment before we can experience it!
>One day later.
>New York Daily News Exclusive! Read what happens to the Hulk before the issue comes out tomorrow! Now with interviews featuring Marvel writers!

>>85409629
Hey, what about She-Hulk and the defective didlo?

>>85409629
Also skottie young variant gave that spoiler right alway.

>>85401955
Is Huck any good? Is it like Starlight Millar or Chrononauts Millar?

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>>85409629
Civil War II is such a mess. Marvel executives can only blame themselves for publishing an event who can be predicted by shitposting

>>85409817
What about the anons who made jokes about inhumansvsxmen happening.

>>85403405
Suicide squad meme magic really did save us from cucks

>>85408448
>Dueling Spiders.
I so fucking obvious Bendis wants to kill Peter and make his fucking OC "THE" Spiderman and Slott is having none of it. Pray to God that Bendis doesn't get anymore power than he already has, or he might actually try to kill Peter.

>>85401931
This can't be happening. How the fuck did they do this? Their movies SUCK!

>>85409862
we should make a bingo for that

>>85409902
This. Marvel desperately wants another precious nig to replace a white character, but Peter is too popular.

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>>85409695
This is the craziest thing to me. Marvel literally spoiled everything themselves and still try to blame people online for their own incompetence.

>>85409902
The sales on this event have to be killing some of his rep, he'll still be considered a top creator but I don't think they'll give as much power to Bendis moving forward. This is too big of a flop.

>>85409971
Marvel now stuff is spoiling some more CW2 stuff

Marvel's been spoiling their big events for quite some time now

>>85409700
Starlight.

>>85410050
How exactly is it a flop? Every issue is still doing 100k+

>>85410946
That is bad for a big Marvel event. It took until Secret Wars #6 before it fell below 200k and CW2 might fall below 100k soon.

>>85410946
The first Civil War was selling about 200k for issue, which is the ideal for an event that includes the whole line

>>85401931
>>>/biz/

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>>85403904
>>85401955

>>85409700
Huck is good, but has a kind of flat ending.

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How's the grand dad comic doing?

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>>85409474
Y-yeah f-f-FUCK them!!!!

>>85409474
>being a butthurt marvelfag
>2016
wew lad

>>85409474
>When Marvel does it, it's ok
>When DC does it they need to die
Pathetic Marvelcucks.

>>85407495

They still got some life in them, it's not over yet.

>>85406753
Wicked + Divine is in development by Universal

eh, it's all smokescreen considering #1s sell A LOT

we all know this, /co/... in two months, Marvel will take back unit and market shares.

>>85414041
DC already said later issues are selling more than the #1s, it's madness

>>85414041
No, DC will be in the lead for forever as of today

>>85404012

He's even got the goggles now too!

I didn't much like the idea of New Superman when it was announced, but holy shit it rocketed up to the top of my list with this week's issue.

>>85414070
sure, I'll wait for official sale numbers
>>85414079
no, but keep telling yourself that, anon.

>>85402544
>it's a rout

May 2016: top 300 comics - 6.37 million copies sold, of which 44.8% Marvel (2,853,760 copies total) and 26.34% DC (1,677,858 copies total)

June 2016: top 300 comics - 8.53 million copies sold, of which 44.17% Marvel (3,767,701 copies total) and 31.69% DC (2,703,157 copies total)

it's hard to see this as a rout; June was still down 10% on total sales to date in the year over 2015

for example:

May 2015: top 300 comics - 8 million copies sold, of which 41.11% Marvel (3,288,800 copies total) and 26.04% DC (2,083,200 copies total)

June 2015: top 300 comics - 7.47 million copies sold, of which 43.16% Marvel (3,224,052 copies total) and 28.03% DC (2,093,841 copies total)

so a drop across both months in real-terms sales for both publishers, but obviously harder on DC because 2016 has actually meant a smaller share of a shrunken market despite Rebirth through June; in July 2015, meanwhile (when Archie #1 took the #7 spot with 100k sales):

July 2015: top 300 comics - 7.58 million copies sold, of which 41.59% Marvel (3,152,522 copies total) and 24.3% DC (1,841,940 copies total)

for DC therefore the total to beat wasn't just 1.84 million - it's 2.7 million, but as the market according to Diamond contracted 3.24% in units this month, they sold 40.96% of around 7,334,408, for 3,004,174 DC total, while Marvel sold 2,617,650, well within expectations for the year to date

how much of that is down to #1s, variant covers and DC's potentially suicidal combination of multiple retailer incentive variants with a sale or return policy, we don't know; it's possible that those asterisks are in fact masking sales figures which are unchanged from May and June, with retailers simply returning unsold copies after over-ordering to get the variants: since they don't need to hang around the stores, sending them back immediately would also chime with anecdotal reports of "sold out" Rebirth issues at many LCS

basically, they've climbed back up a shorter ladder

>>85401931
>number ones doing well

You don't say, Batman is the only DC title in the top ten that isn't a first issue

I'm a Marvelfag but Marvel deserves it, Civil War was absolute trash as most of the comics they are releasing.

>>85404879
I'm talking about the past.

>>85406834
The only notable adaptations of Image comics during the 90's are the Spawn live-action movie and animated series, Gen13 animated film, and The Maxx & WildC.A.T.S. cartoons.

>DC selling well when they relaunch a bunch of books with #1's

its ok when DC does it

>>85416598

DC's actually got a really solid lineup of books though. Marvel relaunches Captain Marvel five different times without really doing anything to change the minds of people who didn't like the previous iterations in the first place.

DC's also gotten better about recruiting new talent and letting people work on what they're interested on (Yang doing New Superman, Priest on Deathstroke, for example). Marvel's got the same half dozen people doing all their high profile books and it gets pretty stale.