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Not So Secret - Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Out This Week:
LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures - Episode 8
The Force Awakens #2

>Star Wars Rebels Season 3 Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXp802sFgQ [Embed]

>Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Celebration Reel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUb_zpdyDpU [Embed]

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya (embed)

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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Barriss pays for her treachery. Sabine advances.
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>>85093340
>Next up: Hera vs Ahsoka

http://www.strawpoll.me/10900019
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>>85093378
>Result for previous match-up
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>>85093378
Slugfest of the century right here.
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>>85093378
Ahsoka best waifu!
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>>85093340
If you change to winner of the bottom left to Genndy vision then add my vote in for all of her upcoming tallies.
>graffiti mando winning even one bracket
You people make me sick.
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>>85093378
HERA FANS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>85093696
>putting her up against orange
She was dead before she began. Brackets can be cruel like that.
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>>85093696
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>>85093378
what the fuck
Who do I vote for?
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>>85093747
She was cursed from the beginning
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>tfw Ashley is such a qt3.134 it makes me depressed because ill never have a cutie gf
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>>85093903
feels bad, man
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Regarding the dub, I'm focusing on the first half of the issue tonight. First thing I noticed is I don't think anybody has recorded Rook's dialogue, so if anybody wants to jump on that. Other than that, just sit tight, I'll post again later/tomorrow with progress.
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>>85094091
I recorded Kast's stuff but I don't think it sounds feminine enough, not much I can do about that

That being said I can post it as a backup just in case no one else does it if you want
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>>85094091
Who have we got voices for?
I've only hear (about 7) Sheevs, a Maul, a Saxon and droids.
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>>85089457
They literally said that Rebels will tie directly into Rogue One.
>>85091310
There's child prostitutes and Twi'lek ladyboys in Lords of the Sith.
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>>85094239
+ Almec

Someone did the first half of Dooku's lines too

>>85094231
sure
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>>85093696
Someone needs to tweet this image to Dave or Pablo with a legit question to see if they reply without noticing the Brazzers logo.
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>>85094311
Kast

https://my.mixtape.moe/cxinjg.m4a
https://my.mixtape.moe/xbthnw.m4a
https://my.mixtape.moe/skbbet.m4a
https://my.mixtape.moe/cnmqnk.m4a
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>>85093378
>Next up: Hera
Well that's pretty simple. Clearly the answer is-
>vs Ahsoka
The answer
I-It's
T-The answer is
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>>85094307
>There's child prostitutes and Twi'lek ladyboys in Lords of the Sith.
LotS confirmed best new canon book.
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>>85094362
More than acceptable, better than expected.
It's a pretty cute boy voice if we ever need somebody to dub Ezra
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>be black
>try to record Maul as a black guy for Sons of Dathomir
>mom knocks on bathroom door
>"what the fuck you doing nigga"
>stop recording
>drop spaghetti
>walk out of bathroom
>mom looking at me like I'm crazy
>captcha select all noodles and pasta
>mfw
>
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>>85093378
>no matter who wins
>sabine loses

being a sabine fag is suffering
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>>85094600
Please tell me you had the recorder on while that happened
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>>85094536
t-thanks anon
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>>85094716
I already deleted so I can re-record it because I'm waiting for my mom to leave.

S-Sorry.
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>>85094600
Shit sucks.
I've tried to record but I'm whispering lines because I don't want anyone outside my room to hear.
There's no way of explaining that I'm recording lines of dialogue for a Star Wars comic, so that anonymous people on the Internet can listen to them, to my parents without making them at least slightly regret that they hadn't aborted me.
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>>85094875
Dang
I wanted to hear that funny situation
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How long has it been since any of you have watched this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4w7ChpuaM
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>>85094935
Just tell them that you're chatting with friends online and roleplaying with them.

They will at least think that you have friends
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>>85095021
Way longer than I could possibly remember

I'm actually not even sure I've seen this before, but I feel like I have some very vague memory of it
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>>85095021
Just looking at the thumbnail and I don't want to
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>>85094875
Get it out of the trash then
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>>85094875
We need it for the Bluray extras
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>>85095113
I'm on my phone fâm.

>>85095199
B-But I don't have it anymore
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>>85095225
Re-create it
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>>85095021
Oh wow, that's a classic!

I had a friend who rapped this in school lel
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>>85094003
qt
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>>85095241
>re-create it
>have my mom thinking I'm crazy
No thanks dude.
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>>85095021
IT'S A DISASTER
SKYWALKER WE'RE AFTER
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>>85095250
I can't tell if you're being facetious or not.
I suppose it really doesn't matter. All I know is that's it's been around since I was in highschool, and that was ten or so years ago.

I wonder if Pablo or Filoni would know of it.
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>>85095021
>How long has it been since any of you have watched this?
When MSN messenger was still a thing.
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>>85095496
IT'S NOT THE EAST OR THE WEST SIDE
(NO IT'S NOT)
IT'S NOT THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH SIDE
(NO IT'S NOT)
IT'S THE DARK SIDE
(YOU ARE CORRECT)
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>>85095546
Sam and Freddy probably know of it
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>>85095546
>Send it to Pablo
>He says it's canon as a joke
>Everyone takes it literally
>Star Wars: An Outer Rim Story
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Does anyone know what helmet is this? The mercs in 1313 use it and it appears to be a variation of Boushh's helmet
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>>85095640
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>>85094704
At least she gets the dark saber
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>>85095640
Looks like a combo of that and an ARF trooper helmet to me
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>>85095546
I mean it, it is a classic.
We used to watch/listen to it in school all the time
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>>85095021

I prefer the older one
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>>85095710
True that. Until she dies with the rest of the Ghost crew to get the rebels information on that the death star is a thing so more rebels can die to say how to destroy it.
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>>85095627
>>85095636
>tfw when Pablo, Filoni, Sam, and Freddy all do a live performance of it during the next Star Wars show in full costume
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>>85095785

> Being rebels fag is suffering

They might keep them around for the next animated series... some of them.
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>>85095795
>Celebration comes
>Hey, maybe the Rebels panel won't be the GOAT panel this year and the other panels will actually be pretty good!
>Rebels panel just starts with this
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>>85095966
>They might keep them around for the next animated series... some of them.
Rex fighting for the Rebel Alliance when?
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>>85095966
Hey, I think their chances are pretty good

Hell, they even put Ezra in one of the movies already!
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>>85096114
No
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>>85096114
How can that be Ezra? That's clearly Darth Vegas!
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>>85096034
He should probably die this season
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>>85096264
>anyone who's not a villain or an A-wing mook
>dying
You clearly don't know what show your watching
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>>85095966
I can only hope, Anon.

I can only hope.
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>>85096264
Ha ha, funny.

Next you'll tell me how Maul will die too.
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>>85096327
Ashoka died though
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>>85096034
>>85096114
:^)
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>>85096390
>Ashoka died though
Filoni was weak, he did not truly kill her
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>>85096390
>Ahsoka
>dead
did you even watch the show?
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>>85096449
>>85096461
>Ahsoka will be the only character to survive Rebels
>She'll actually show up in Rogue One and Episode 8
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>>85096449
>Filoni
>weak
>ever

The man is a serial killer.
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>>85096535
He did not have the strength to kill his own waifu
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>show finale is all the crew dying
how would you react?
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>>85096535
>gives Ahsoka a non-committal "ending" in season 2
>gives interviews where he refuses to confirm or deny that she's dead
>announces at Celebration in front of an emotional Ashley Eckstein that Ahsoka will be back
Filoni can kill waifus all day long, but does not have the strength to kill his own
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>>85096563
You underestimate his power!
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>>85096607
That's impossible. They wouldn't kill HER!
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>>85096691
Search your feelings anon...
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>>85096607
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>>85096691
how does mature twi'lek pussy smells like?
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>>85096641

Ironic. He could kill other's waifus...but not his own.
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>>85096763
Dunno, ask Thrawn.
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>>85096763
Heaven.
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>>85096796
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What legends books or comics should I check out if I want something that doesn't necessarily feel "Star Wars-y" but still contributes the universe in a meaningful and/or interesting way?

Basically I'm looking for something that succeeds both as a piece of fiction and as an examination of an atypical or often overlooked element of the Star Wars universe.
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>>85094600
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>>85096935
Star Wars: Kenobi
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>>85096935
While it doesn't contribute much to the overallStar Wars mythos, Death Troopers is a fun take on the zombie/horror genre
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>>85096641
If only the master was still around
>"Ahsoka has become a major character in the franchise."
>"Yes, George, she is quite important to me."
>"Too important."
>"But Georg-"
>"SILENCE. I would hate to think you are growing attached to her at the expense of story."
>"Never! My allegiance is to your vision and your vision alone!"
>"Then you must prove it. Eliminate her."
>"B-but she's my most well-written-"
>"I SAID ELIMINATE HER!"
>"...As you wish, George..."
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>>85097075
>Solo and Chewbacca were fighting zombies before going to the Cantina and meeting Luke and Obi-Wan
NO
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>>85097089
Lucas let him spare Ahsoka once, but yeah, I don't think he'd let him get away with this "is she dead or not? mmmm whoooo knoooooows?" stuff.
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>>85097089
>>85097201
Makes me wonder if he'd allow Maul's return in Rebels. Maul coming back the first time was his idea, but it felt like he had a specific end for him in mind and Filoni is using "well we never DID set that in stone" as a loophole to bring him back again.
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>>85097351
No clue. All of the unproduced stuff was developed with Lucas still around, and the final arc would have been Ahsoka dealing with Maul on Mandalore literally while the Battle of Coruscant is happening. Unless Lucas intended to let Ahsoka kill Maul, it seems like he was going to let him live past the Clone Wars. Maybe he intended to re-use him for a future project? Another shot at the live action series? A stand-alone movie?
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>>85096352
I want to see her get dominated by bobba.
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>>85097627
Like this
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>>85097627
I want her to laugh as Rex tells all of the Ghost crew that Jango wasn't a Mandalorian

>>85097665
What's this guy's problem?
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>>85097627
That won't happen as long as Kanan is nearby. He's unfortunately developed the one thing Boba has consistently shown himself to be ineffective against.
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>>85097713
>What's this guy's problem?
Jango wasn't a Mandolorian
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>>85097823
I bet he was pissed when he found out
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>>85097713
>Rex: The clone template? No, he wasn't Mandalorian. Wore the armor, though. He told us the Mandalorian warriors were all dead, so I assume he didn't know about Death Watch.
>Hondo: Yes and as his good friend, I can also confirm that Jango was no Mandalorian! In fact, the armor belonged to me before won it from my in a game of sabacc!
>Fenn Rau: This is true, he claimed to be from Concord Dawn but that alone didn't make him Mandalorian. Not that he ever actually claimed to be Mandalorian.
>Maul: Grrrr... I can't stand to be around any of you, but you speak the truth. My Mandalorian warriors confirmed to me that Jango Fett was never a Mandalorian. They called him a mockery to their ancient ways!
>Thrawn: Excuse me, may I join in on this conversation? Fett's armor, though tastefully painted in colors resembling those of the Death Watch, different in many subtle ways. This should have indicated to anyone observant enough that he was not a true Mandalorian.
>The Bendu: I also met Fett once and told me his greatest secret was that even though everyone thought he was Mandalorian, he really wasn't. Once a secret is known, it cannot be unknown.
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>>85097823
>>85097964
It's kind of funny during that scene with Almec and Obi Wan. Where Almec declared Jango as a common bounty hunter much like today's Muslims say that people like ISIS are not Muslims.

>please don't hate
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>>85098006
Yeah I kind of got that connotation as well. They didn't do a good job of making it obvious that they weren't Mandalorian. If it weren't for Lucas and Dave stating it outright in behind the scenes material I would think that they were still Mandalorian and Almec was pulling a 'no true Scotsman'.
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>>85093832
Source?
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>>85097988
>an entire episode of people repeatedly confirming that the Fetts aren't Mandalorian
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>>85097988
>Someone finds a holo-recording of Pre Viszla going on a tirade about that poser bounty hunter besmirching the name Mandolorian.
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>>85094311
I figured I wouldn't finish the Dooku lines because of the Bane posting.
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>>85098181
the artist is Tourbillon
pic related ;^)
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>>85098416
Hey, no one ever said it was actually bad

Besides it doesn't make much difference regardless, you should go for the rest of the lines
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>>85098428
Thanks for the source
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>>85098428
>Hera not pulling the breastplate off Ahsoka's outfit so those togrutatas can breathe
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>>85098181
>>85098428
>>85098499
>>85098519
That's applesmut! Ya fool!
http://applesmut.tumblr.com/tagged/my-art
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>>85098651
For those that want the colored version
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>>85098651
Oops, my bad.
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ALL RIGHT ROWAN

HAND OVER THOSE DELEGATES
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>>85098416
I didn't even think it sounded like Bane. It was pretty good
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>>85097189
It's not like it's canon or anything
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>>85097665
>>85097713
Does anybody have the Mando armor chart? That one that ends with this guy's OC labelled "Mr. Trying Too Hard"?
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Just curious because I chat to some of you on here. Would anyone be interested in me doing a stream some time? I have too many drawings I owe to take requests, but at the moment you could watch me do my pin up related twi'leks and cosplayer commissions.
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>>85099307
It'd probably be something I'd have open in another tab to check in on every so often, but I wouldn't stay and watch too long.
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>>85099307
Me actually watching depends on when you stream, but I'm interested.
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>>85099551
>>85099601
Thanks for the feedback. I'm the same when watching other artists stream. My schedule is kind of shit. I'll figure it out. For now it will be me drawing traditionally.
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Is there a Star Wars character more hardcore than GUTS?
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>>85097089
Since when did George take writing advice from G. R.R. Martin.
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>>85099745
The dark side is literally enteral rage and darkness
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>>85098874

I'm sad that she was outed. I kind of liked her act. Ah well, at least now she is free to pursue Rowa- the kyber crystals without any pretense.
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>>85095021
>tfw still know every word of it
friends and I used to play this shit all the time during RC/BF2 system link parties
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Yo what the fuck, people?

http://thenerdybird.com/daisy-ridley-harassed-off-instagram-political-opinion/
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>>85100889
Maybe she should've kept politics out of her Instagram account. Especially when the US elections are soon to be underway
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>>85100889

Those people had the right to voice her opinion as much as she did on gun violence. Daisy took the wrong turn in not ignoring or at least respecting the different views of those who are pro-gun rights and silencing herself from the Instagram world.
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>>85099790
So the Dark Side IS Guts?
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>>85095966
You know, whoever Maul doesn't slaughter.
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>>85101137

He is the very concept, yes.
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>>85093696
If Maul straight up kills Hera in front of Kanan, this will be the best piece of Star Wars media ever made.
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>>85101109
I suppose so.
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>>85094091
What is this about? I skip threads sometimes, so I haven't heard about it.
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>>85101250
Not really, since we already saw him pull that once and it would just be lazy if he does the WATCH ME KILL YOUR WAIFU thing again.
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>>85101328
But Kanan can't see, so he'll have to describe it to him as he does it. That's different, right?
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>>85099307
T H I C K
H
I
C
K
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>>85101309
Ignore it
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>>85101328
I honestly just think it'd be hilarious to see Ezra and Kanan's faces while everything they care about gets crushed by a 60 year old failure of a sith lord.
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>>85101309
We're dubbing Sons of Dathomir for fun. Ignore the party poopers >>85101684
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Top 10 Jedi who survived Order 66

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4WZl1CEUsI
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>>85101713

>WatchMojo
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>>85101957
>implying they aren't right
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>>85093340

I just want to make it clear that if Ventress doesn't win this I'm going to find every single one of you and hunt you down like the dogs you are.
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>>85093340
I honestly don't know why we even bothered to have Ahsoka in this, the whole thing is a farce with her in the running. She's just too OP.
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>>85102036
Good luck you harpy, I'm behind seven Quinlan Vos'es
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>>85101704
He'd have to stop being a failure for that to happen
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>>85102146
Ahsoka has it all. She's cute, she's a great character and she's badass.
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>>85102200
He can do so for short periods of time before it comes roaring back with a vengeance, and that's really all he needs to kill these fucks.
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>>85102036
Even the ones that voted for Ventress?
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>>85098481
>>85099033

Issue 01 Dooku lines
my.mixtape.moe/eqexpm.mp3
my.mixtape.moe/eaispo.mp3
my.mixtape.moe/eyiyou.mp3
my.mixtape.moe/paddyf.mp3
my.mixtape.moe/uudhxv.mp3
my.mixtape.moe/boxwee.mp3

Also tried adding some after effects to the holo scenes.
my.mixtape.moe/lyntkp.mp3
my.mixtape.moe/rigpqf.mp3
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>>85102036
Let's face it.

It's gonna be Ventress against either Ahsoka or SS in the finals.

Also, nice eyes
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>>85102308
But then that means after he kills Hera, Sabine, etc, he's going to experience another colossal failure. What does the will of the Force have in the cards this time?
Sudden heart attack?
The floor mysteriously gives away under him?
Jar Jar arrives and kicks his ass completely by accident while trying to butter some space toast?
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>>85102312

Naturally.
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>>85102513
>Jar Jar arrives and kicks his ass completely by accident while trying to butter some space toast?
I would legitimately love for this to happen to Maul
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>>85093340

My prediction:

>Ahsoka wins
>Seventh Sister gets second
>Asajj gets third

If Kek is truly with me and supports my view, may he bless me with dubs.
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>>85093378
How the hell is this a first round matchup? Do you even know how seeding works?
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>>85102686
Hopefully the Best Husbando and Best Droid matches aren't this predictable

We all know Rex and Chopper will win though
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>>85102686
Perhaps Asajj is not the waifu we're looking for.
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>>85089543
>>traitor bitch that backstabbed best girl
>or
>>cute mando girl that destroys imperial property and makes sheev cry
>Tough choice, huh?

Barriss IS best girl.
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>>85102894
I used to think that way. Then I somehow ended up convinced that, while she may not be what I'm looking for, she may be what I need.
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>>85102686
That can't happen with how the bracket is set up. If Ahsoka and SS both make it to the third round, then they'll be up against each other. Only one of them will be able to make it to the final round, so only one of them can get first or second. How I expect it go:
>First: Ahsoka
>Second: Ventress
>Third: Seventh Sister
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>randomly giving clones blonde hair

shit fanart, and if that coloring is supposed to represent their buzzcuts, even shittier.
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>>85096834
what the fuck is wrong with Rebel's modelers?
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>>85104954
Uh?
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>>85104954
Rex bleaches. He always had blonde hair.
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>>85104954
Got a problem with Rex?
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>>85105375
How can one man be so vain and yet so badass?
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>>85104954
(You)
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>>85102011
>Inky not even an honorable mention
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>>85096410
I love Pablo's bants.

>>85097988
>>85098227
>>85098263
Fund it immediately, and make this episode the first where they get the Clone Wars budget back for extra visual candy. It will be the best looking episode, along with the best triggering for Mandofags.

>>85096935
While it's not a book/comic, atypical or an overlookied element, KOTOR 2 is an examination of the Force told through Chris Avellone's eyes. Although fans may like or dislike the character and the overall narrative, Avellone himself admitted that Kreia is his mouthpiece for everything he hates about the Force in the Star Wars world. It's intentionally a different type of story.
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>>85105842
If you're interested in doing so, could you explain that (Avellone/Kreia) for someone who has never played KOTOR2?
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>>85105946
Avellone is a nihilist who hates predestination and black/white morality like the Force is often presented.

Kreia is an old bitter woman who hates the force, and serves as Avellone's mouthpiece for that black/white dislike.
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>>85105946
Kreia sees the Force as essentially a cancer on the galaxy, and her goal is to eliminate it to allow the galaxy to not have to follow the Force's supposed path.
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Been in China for the last while so I hadn't gotten a chance to see the S3 trailer, so I've got a few questions.

The breathing at the beginning, I suppose that means Vader might return or is that just teasing?
Are those Dark Troopers? I suppose they're droids so not really, but hey.
I like to make fun of Thrawn because he was literally looking at a painting to learn how his enemy thinks, but how are those books, really?
Is that giant force-neutral monster thing Tom Baker?
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>>85106702
They probably are Dark Troopers, since Dark Troopers were originally droids.

The books are better than not, Thrawn is overrated but a serviceable and threatening enough enemy.

I think it is Tom Baker.
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>>85106702
>>85106766
Yeah, that is Tom Baker
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>>85106831
That's super cool
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>>85106702
http://www.starwars.com/news/swce-2016-11-things-we-learned-from-the-star-wars-rebels-season-three-panel

"The Bendu on Star Wars Rebels will be played by Doctor Who alum Tom Baker. 'Tom charmed everyone in the room,' according to Filoni. 'My wife included.'"
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>>85106892
KEKED
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>>85106892
Filoni is cuck????
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>>85106892
That is a cry for help lads
We need to save the hat
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can any of the faggots who have adventures in wildspace just hurry up with the scans. I have nothing to do other than browse /co/ and fap
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>>85106702
>I suppose that means Vader might return or is that just teasing?
I imagine we'll see him. Either way, the beginning seems to just be a callback to season 2's ending, hence the Vader breathing and Ezra screaming "AHSOKA!" That sets the scene for the rest of the trailer, which is about dealing with the aftermath of the season 2 ending, especially Ezra and the holocron.
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>>85106702
I'm not sure which Darktrooper phase they are. I'm positive they're probably Phase I since we've already seen Phase 2 in Commander.
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>>85100613
She is free to find the purest love. Hutt love.
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>>85106969
It's too late.

Baker lusts for a replacement.
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>>85093378
RIP Hera
Now she loses waifu showdowns like her Dad loses Ryloth
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We need drawfags to illustrate the result of each waifu poll.
I need to see Ahsoka wrestling Hera into submission
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>>85093378
If Hera wasn't against Ahsoka in the first round, would she have made it to at least 3rd place?
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>>85096352

Spin off centered on Sabine and Mando culture when?

Have her face off against various legends bounty hunters and work her way up to Bobba.

Also is she going to fuck Ezra?
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Replace one word in a Star Wars quote with "asshole".
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>>85110360
>You are part of the Asshole Alliance and a traitor. Take her away!
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>>85110449
Woulda gone with
>You are part of the Rebel Alliance and an asshole
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>>85110360
This R2 unit has a bad asshole. Look!
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>>85110360
>"Han my asshole, you disappoint me."
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>>85110360
The dark sideof the asshole is apathway to many abilitiessome consider to be unnatural
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>>85110360
>I love asshole.
>I know

>>85110712
>Tis treason asshole.
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>>85098874
>>85100613
These two would have gotten along just fine
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>>85109752
Oh yes. I want to see SS femdom'ing the fuck out of Adi Galia and going: "I dont usually do this, also you're a little to old."
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>>85110837
>not fighting over all the little boys
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>>85110990
>They are sharing
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>>85100889
Heh
Daisy is just on fire making all the internet mistakes

Remember that time she get her fanbase to masshate on some twelve year old
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>>85109752
>
Fuck you, girl-on-girl fighting opens up the space for all my fetishes at once.
>Ahsoka overpower Sabine
>Maketh gettin' Togruta'd
>Miraj
>VENTRESS

LAWD.
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>>85111070
You have my undying respect for that picture anon.
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>>85110360
From my point of view, the Jedi are asshole!
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>>85110360
It's over Anakin, I have the high asshole!
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>>85111400

>It's over, asshole! I have the high ground!
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>>85110360

Why do I get the feeling we've picked up another pathetic asshole?
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Is 4chan slow for anyone else?
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>>85111419
It's over, Anakin! I asshole the high ground!
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>>85111623
It's over, Anakin! I have the asshole ground!
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>>85110360
>I will not be undermined by assholes bred in some laboratory!
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>>85110360
In my book, asshole outranks everything
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>>85110360
>clinks my Asshole of blue milk against yours
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>>85111885
>In my asshole, experience outranks everything
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>>85093378
>>
https://youtu.be/Yrzjbb5aSQM

This video made me cringe and pissed me off at the same time.

Most of the points this guy makes aren't even valid.
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>>85109997
>Also is she going to fuck Ezra?
No. That's why he goes to the dark side
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>>85112794
>Most of the points this guy makes aren't even valid.
I can tell by the title alone none of his points are valid.
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>>85112794
This guy sounds like the biggest OT elitist.
Also, kek that he fell for the EVERYTHING IS PRACTICAL IN TFA lie from JJ.
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>>85112932
Also, of course he hates midichlorians.
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post yfw Ezra is Snoke
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>>85112794
>not even a mintue in and this guy believes that they used a practical robot for BB8 for the entire film
holy fuck
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>>85112998
>implying that wasn't stupid as fuck
I mean they didn't even use it again! Argh!
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>>85113083
I love midichlorians!
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>>85113083
They used it in TCW though. Anyway, I don't get why people hate it or think it's stupid. Do people just not understand it or they just preferred the force to be unexplained magic?
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>>85112794
I want to strangle that man.
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>>85113187
I think it's a mix of both.
People don't understand them, and that's why they think they take away the mystery of the Force.
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>>85113187
It's called the force, it doesn't need to be explained because it works better that way. And if you DO have rules at least make it make fucking sense.
>Anyway, I don't get why people hate it or think it's stupid.
It's completely retarded. I honestly had better ideas about magic when I was six. Why you can't see it's a terrible idea is beyond me.
>they just preferred the force to be unexplained magic?
Yoda already explained what the force was in ESB.
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>>85113296
>Why you can't see it's a terrible idea is beyond me.
Because I'm not a retard that can't understand something so simple.
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>>85113528
People understood it, mate. They just think it's a terrible idea. It's the worst thing they prequels ever did
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>>85113187
I don't hate midichlorians, I get that they're not the force itself merely a conduit but it still loses a lot of mystique and in a way it kind of spoils the characters connection to the force, as in you're only powerful because you got lucky and have a bunch of bugs in your cells
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>>85113548
Well clearly this guy >>85113296 didn't get it.
I don't particularly like it myself but it does explain why they were able to show up as ghosts.
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>>85111029
>>
> defending literal power level shit

DARTH VADER IS DA STRONGEST GUY EVA HE HAS OVER 50000 MDICLORIANS

DID WE MENTION THAT DARTH VADER IS FUCKIN BADASS

DARTH

V
A
D
E
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>>85113648
>a bunch of bacteria in the blood explains why you can be a ghost

>this is better than the force being a mystery that you can somewhat grasp but never fully understand
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>>85113648
>people didn't like it!
>so they just didn't get it!
I heard this when Phantom menace was released. In high school.
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>prequel fans can never defend the star wars universe literally bending its ass over in order to wank to darth vader
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>>85113701
The guy clearly thought that midichlorians were supposed to explain the force which wasn't the case because it just raised more questions, and he even contradicted himself in the same statement.

Maybe you should try reading before you start posting anime pics.
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>>85113713
That's alright.
Without a steady diet of Boba Fetts it'll die anyway.
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>>85113893
Jesus, did you arrive on the Autism are us minibus?
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Argueing anons are boring. Post cute instead.
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>>85114006
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>>85113943
Here's your reply.
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>>85114063
Sorry, this isn't your bus. It's the short one down the street.
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>>85114006
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>>85114006
As an addition, post Astromechs doing cute/cool things. I don't have enough pics.
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>>85114562
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>>85114006
Hera is CUTE
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>>85104956
That's how the Chiss look now. Someone post Thrawn's cover art, I'm on mobile.
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>>85104956
>>85114746
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>>85114990
>face isn't symmetrical

triggered
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>>85114990
>inb4 Thrawn is on the vege of destroying the rebels but The Emperor calls him away to go search the unknown parts of the galaxy
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>>85114562
Droid lewds.
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>>85113667
>he thinks midichlorians=powerlevels
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>>85115138
Was it rape?
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>>85115416
What do you think?
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>>85094091
What characters do you need? I'm a killer at impressions.
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>>85116118
I don't think we've had a General Grievous yet.
>>
can we post more seventh sister?
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>>85115254
At the same time, we are talking about someone who, IIRC, is contractually obligated to be depicted as nothing less than an absolute badass.

...does that mean Vader is a mary sue? Or gary sue or whatever?
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>>85097724
If I had my reaction folder...
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>>85116470
Well, he is supposed to be Space Jesus since he was born from an immaculate conception
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>>85116470
>>85117192
He's not a Gary Stu since these characters can only be good and perfect and are just side characters meant for the protagonist to fall in love with. Anakin was not perfect, and Star Wars reminds people od that.
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>>85110360
"There's always a bigger asshole."
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>>85113243
>somebody is being positive on the internet
>oh, I better hate them!
I almost forgot I was on 4chan, thanks for reminding me.
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>>85117559
>guys, i'll try to be objective in this "review!"
>the opening shot is like Jar Jar saying, "It's okay, I got this." He does
>closes the video
Being positive is one thing, being retarded is different.
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>>85093340
>Satine actually won
still can't get over this
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>>85115254
>people still use 'powerlevels' unironically
>when the thing that popularized it pointed out pretty explicitly powerlevels don't mean shit
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>>85116470

>...does that mean Vader is a mary sue? Or gary sue or whatever?

By the strictest definition he can't be, since he's been a central character of the work since its inception by its original creator. But, we can let that technically slide and look at the elements of the character and his story.

>Chosen One of prophecy
>highest Force potential in known galactic history
>got one of the greatest Jedi in the history of the order as his personal mentor
>renowned war hero and badass
>banged Natalie Portman
>ultimately fulfilled prophecy

Buuuuuuut...

>never actually attained his full potential due to his fuck-ups
>was an arrogant, impatient, ungrateful little shit who got rightly punished for his character flaws
>betrayed just about everyone who ever truly cared about him
>spent about 23 joyless years of his life as a mutilated freak on life support in constant torment
>went from beloved war hero to one of the most reviled and feared men in the galaxy
>Sheev's bitch
>his grandson apparently thinks the monstrous acts he performed serving a totalitarian regime, the sins he died regretting, are totally worth repeating

I'd say he doesn't qualify.
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>>85114006
Arguing is the only good thing in these threads. the waifu shit is unbearable
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>>85117740
Agreed.
For every perfection Anakin has, he's got 2x flaw.
He might be the chosen one, but he's shit at it.
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>>85110360
Negative, didn't go in. It just impacted on the asshole.
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>>85110360
Who's the more assholish? The asshole or the asshole who follows him?
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>>85113690
To be honest I want to know everything there is to the Force. That kind of mythic lore should be reserved to gods
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>>85118293
>I want everything spoon fed to me so I don't have to use the limitless potential of my mind to create theories that intrigue me

You are the reasoning creativity is dying
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>>85118476
wat
Not that Anon, but that's not even remotely the same thing
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>>85117740
I still wonder how Snoke convinced the Disney princess that Vader was a swell and admirable guy.
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>>85118596
Considering the current generation of Disney princesses *cough*Anna*cough*, that's not all that surprising.
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>>85111036
Wait, what?
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>>85110360
>That's no moon. That's an asshole.
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>>85110360
The force is with you, young Skywalker, but you're not an asshole yet.
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>>85118476
That's not what I was saying in the slightest. The more I find out about the Force the more I want to know. I want to know it's origins, why it exists, how it works, why some people can interact with it and why some can't, and why it needs to be balanced at all times and what that means. Why WOULDN'T you want questions answered? This isn't a god, this is part of life. Even in the real world everything can be boiled down to a mathematical equation and that's fascinating in its own right. I love finding out what makes things move, grow, live, and work. Knowledge is great.
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>>85119088
Because it wouldn't be interesting. There you go, chap. You understand why people don't care now. Do what you wilt with this precious piece of knowledge.
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>>85117676
It's a reminder that Obi has the best taste in the galaxy
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>>85110360
"I am the Asshole."
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>>85110360
>What took you so long?
>Well, you know, Master, I couldn't find an asshole that I really liked.
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>>85116329
Always
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>>85110360
>to fully understand the mysteries of the asshole, one must take a...larger view
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>>85119197
Considering I found midichlorians and the stuff in The Clone Wars fascinating, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that feeling, I'd say we have a disagreement on our hands
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>>85118889
Yeh, there was some guy who did a satirical review of TFA, and some legit mentally challenged kid took it seriously and tagged Daisy in the picture the reviewer had made. Pic related.

Daisy got super pissed and wrote a huge rant on instagram. Her followers then rushed to the kids instagram and did their thing.
Media then blew everything up even more by covering it, painting Daisy as some kind of stronk womyn while successfully ignoring the real victim, the poor kid.

Here's the whole thing, it's pretty interesting:
http://ihypocrite.net/2016/03/11/dear-diary-today-i-fucked-up-and-made-a-meme-so-dank-daisy-ridley-had-her-1-4-million-followers-chase-a-retarded-girl-off-the-internet/
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>>85110360
>The Sith...the Sith took everything from me! Ripped me from my mother's asshole, murdered my brother, used me as a weapon and then cast me aside!
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>>85112794
>Most of the points this guy makes aren't even valid.
Well, it's just a ripoff of cinemasins, so yeah.
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>>85120658
>Daisy got super pissed and wrote a huge rant on instagram
Sauce?
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>>85120658
Legit the funniest thing ive read today. how did i miss this?
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>>85120658
how did we end up like this
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>>85121034
>It ended up on the fucking newspapers
I'm dying
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>>85121034
It was only a kiss
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>>85120886
I would if I could. She deleted her instagram today.
But you have a piece of it in the dudes blog post. Pic related.
I remember it being much bigger than that.

>>85120991
I know right?
It was some time ago.

>>85121034
Just look at all of these results: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Daisy+Ridley+body+shaming
"News papers" milked that shit to the ground.
And again, Daisy wasn't even the real victim.


How can a celebrity be so bad at the internet? Was Rey a mistake?
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>>85120658

> Irreverent shitlord with a blog that has a miniscule following pens an absurdly satirical review of Star Wars, complete with comic book like speech bubbles showing what the movie was about from an insanely tumblr radfem point of view.
> A 17 year old, mentally handicapped girl that spends a large portion of her time posting Star Wars fan art on instagram, stumbles on my image and does what she does when she finds Rey fan art.
> Daisy Ridley, young and upcoming superstar that plays Rey in the film, sees the image taken out of context, reposts it along with the name of the instagram user who put it up, and fires shots back.
> Daisy’s followers let their hate flow through them and unleash holy hell on the young fan. That poor little mongoloid is probably still in tears, bless her little heart.
> Media picks up the story, does literally zero research, brands the 17 year old slow girl as a “body shaming internet troll” and puts her on blast while simultaneously praising Daisy for being such a brave womyn.

Why do they let Daisy use social media?
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>>85121291
Because now she knows that she could leave behind the smelliest, shittierst of turds, and still have people eating it up like Russian Caviar and Paozu Tuna.
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>>85121395
Don't kidd about that, people would actually do that shit
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>tfw none of the popular saber sites has the parts to build an inkie lightsaber.

I know the spinning part won't be possible but how hard can it be to build a double bladed saber with a ring around it.

Just look at SS' beauty of a saber
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>>85121538
>but how hard can it be to build a double bladed saber with a ring around it.

With actual metal? Pretty fucking hard if you don't have the experience with the right equipment.
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>>85121538
Easiest way would probably be to 3D print it
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>>85121538
Honestly, I'd be more satisfied with a curved hilt, myself.
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I need the Kaytoo figure
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>>85121186
IT WAS ONLY A KISS
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>>85121291

Mentally retarded kids shouldn't be left alone on the internet to post whatever they feel like. This kid clearly was too dumb to understand ontext, she really needs to be either supervised or not online.

What if she stumbled on /d/ and started reposting Jedi-egg--birth-porn or something?
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>>85122250
>Mentally retarded kids shouldn't be left alone on the internet to post whatever they feel like
But what would we do without /tv/
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>>85122122
Now I'm falling asleep
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>>85120658
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>>85117701
Wait a minute, you're claiming that just because the thing that popularized it, not created the idea of it, didn't feel they mattered therefore it doesn't matter?

Your conclusion is completely illogical, and frankly you missed the point of why people use it. Because powerlevels are real in the same way your waifu isn't, since as a concept it's merely about the relative disparity of raw power between individuals. The metrics used for it may be completely arbitrary depending on the fiction but still as a concept it endures because it's not even that difficult a concept to master. A novice is always less skilled than an expert. A Padawan is always less powerful than, say, Yoda. Even if they had the same potential to use the Force Yoda is the one who is using his potential to anything approximating its fullest. It's actually built right into Star Wars fabric now. Thank Anakin for mentioning how his powers had doubled since he last fought Dooku.

Now that hardly means midi-chlorians are the metric they use, which most certainly does not appear to be the case. I always subscribed to the notion that Qui-Gon's point about Anakin's high levels was about his being a Virgence rather than his power potential. After all, the Council still gave Anakin some fairly mundane tests, including him guessing images he couldn't see.Yoda's levels are high because he's a 900 year old being. If anyone has a plethora of live giving symbiotic organisms he'd be a good candidate, regardless of whether they're the cause of his long life or just something he's built up over his very long existence. A kid having those levels is apparently quite strange, and certainly evidence that something weird is going on around him. Especially if he was conceived directly via the Force, whether at the Force's own direction or Sheev and Plagueis shenanigans.
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>>85100613
Just like SS always focused on fuc- uh...killing Padawans.
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>>85111036
It's not like she purposefully instigated it. Fandoms typically act out on their own, especially if they think it will somehow curry favor with the object of their devotion. Fans is short for fanatics, after all.

Daisy is just doing what people do on the internet social drek sites, which is post shit that interests her or upsets her. That's common enough, but we don't all have a following the size she has. It's something she'll have to come to terms with. And how fickle fans can be, and how baffling. Like the people claiming her anti-gun violence stance was somehow killing Star Wars for them.

>>85122340
We would live, anon. We would finally live.
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>>85122747
>autism the post
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>>85122764
What is it with the dark side and kids?
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>>85122900
>triggered the post
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Midichlorians are an indicator of one's sensitivity to the Force. You're already connected to it at birth with your determined count, and regardless of your count, are a certain degree sensitive to it. There's a difference between actually consciously using the Force and it acting as pure instinctual reflex or in some cases hysterical reaction(Dave Filoni cites Han's being able to almost effortlessly maneuver through the dense Hoth asteroid field as definitely being an example of the Force working through him on a reflexive, "in the zone" plane). It's not latent or untapped as it is being utilized to a degree, but it is still there. It always is.

Midichlorians act as the scientific indicator of the strength of one's connection to the Force - the visible, at times slim difference as to whether they can demonstrate a minimum awareness of its presence. This is what is meant when it's said that the Force speaks to us through the midichlorians, at least on the surface. They also have a role in your regular biology and the question of the afterlife with the Living and Cosmic Force as your signature in the Force. Because you're essentially born with them, taking them away would be excising a vital part of your biology and, as Qui-Gon said, your life would end because you're no longer part of the equation.
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>more retarded midichlorians posts
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>>85123132
Yeah. We can be more retarded than that.

Boba Fett needs his badass status restored.
Discuss.
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>>85123132
Maybe don't bring it up in a discussion every time someone bad mouths TFA?
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>>85123132
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Come on, guys, stop falling for blatant shitposts. Don't feed the sarlacc.
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>>85123222
>>85123227
>>85123270
>>85123290
>>85123321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDGyPRr9-AE
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>>85123227
Response: Boba Fett was never a badass in-universe, just the impressions that he really good at his job. There is no status to restore him to.
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Did I meme well /swco/?
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>>85123090
I'm not sure they measure one's connection to the Force, as such, or if it's natural side effect of having a heightened Force sensitivity beyond the normies of the Star Wars galaxy. Everyone has the Force to some extent, as we saw in the Jar Jar and Windu arc, but normies have it to a much lesser degree.

We also know it's essential that everyone have midi-chlorians as they are a vital part of the process whereupon, at death, your energy is fed back into the Cosmic Force (got to wonder how that works with full and instant disintegration, like the poor bastards on Alderaan).

If midi-chlorians were directly connected with the sheer power one wields with the Force then we're back to the age old question of why nobody has tried to artificially inflate their mid-chlorian numbers. When Talzin and the Nightsisters empowered Savage Opress they just seemed to shove a raw mass of Living Force energy up his tailpipe, as opposed to anything obviously using midi-chlorians. Still the process was vague. As is the whole midi-chlorian thing itself, despite all we've learned.
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>>85123435
Looks like some stuff is blotted out
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>>85123461
I can't into paint very well
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>>85123435
Your shoop work was so bad that the pictures cover some of the text, so yeah it's perfect.
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>>85123384
Retort: All the more reason he needs to be brought up to badass. Make the character match the reputation, as well as give audiences someone who isn't a jedi mary sue to swarm around....

...and there went my argument for mentioning 'mary sues'.
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>>85123448
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ExkYS_Uog
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>>85123575
>MODS ARE DEAD
MODS ARE DEAD
>MODS ARE DEAD
MODS ARE DEAD
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I'm trying to look around for old Star Wars Insider issues, but there doesn't seem to be any archive for them? Does Anybody know where I could get Star Wars Insider #91 somewhere?
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>>85123575
MODS
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>>85123536
>Make the character match the reputation

But his reputation comes from the old-EU. Lucasfilm acknowledges this, and are thus not limited to making based on what the EU fanficed him to be. So instead of the badass that he was, he's now a slightly competent (when not facing blind people) edgelord who's trying to copy someone who actually was, arguably, the best in the business (pic related) and is seemingly only succeeding in shitting on that person's legacy.

I hope Bobba never grows out of Jango's shadow.
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>>85123628
U-Wing looks pretty cool.
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>>85123575
WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING TO THAT POOR GIRL?
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>>85123794
I think he's attempting re-entry, sir
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>>85123575
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>>85123731
They're already borrowing more and more from the EU as it is, at the expense of the Prequel era. Who's to say that the Prequel era will go the way of the old EU at some point, and Jango Fett gets rewritten out of existence?

Besides, everyone knows Cad Bane is the best in the business.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ExkYS_Uog
>“Weird Al” Yankovic Interview, New Rogue One Vehicle Revealed, and More | The Star Wars Show


>No, I'm just messing with Reddit
Why has she betrayed us?
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>>85123575
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>>85123575
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>>85122939
>you dare imply powerlevels are bullshit
>let me go into tismal detail about how powerlevels are bullshit
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>>85123540
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>>85123902
Now that's just mean.
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>>85124001
A FOCKING BOOMERANG
looks cool tho
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>>85123575
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>>85124130
>i didn't even read the post
>doesn't mean i can't shitpost about it.
Let me guess, you're the midi-chlorAnon who is getting butt blasted by people daring to discuss in a thread about Star Wars discussions?
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>>85123992
>They're already borrowing more and more from the EU as it is

Yeah, the parts they like. Which is something we already knew about from the gitgo. And even then, they change those parts to fit into the current settings. And none of what they've brought in has been to the benifit of Boba. They've seemingly taken away Boba's badassness away deliberately if only because it was his suit that people found to be cool, not the character. Which as far as the movies were concerned before the prequels, he barely was a character.

>everyone knows Cad Bane is the best in the business.

He became the undisputed best when Jango croaked. There's actually an in universe dispute amongst the bounty hunting community about which was better. There was actually going to be an arc in TCW about it. Bane was going to take Boba under his wing to try and make him as good as Jango was so Bane could finally see if he really was better than Jango. Given how much of a jobber Boba grew up to be, it would seem it didn't go too well.

>Who's to say that the Prequel era will go the way of the old EU at some point

If Disney keeps hiring more guys like JJ, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. But so long as there are those at Lucasfilm who are loyal to George's wishes, then I still have hope.
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>>85124212
I don't hate it at all, but then again I have an irrational love for gunships.

But for some reason I want the wings to be as sharp as swords. I do not know why.
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>>85124001
This guy in the comments
>iCookieMadför
>I'm a Star Wars Canon expert so ask me any question and I will answer it in detail!

>Albatroz1ps3för
>Why is Anakin Skywalker the chosen one?

>iCookieMadför
>+Albatroz1ps3 He isn't. The Jedi Council only thought he was. Luke Skywalker is the chosen one. Was that meant to be a trick question or do you just not know much about Star Wars?

Can you call yourself a Star Wars expert and legit say Luke was the chosen one?

>>85124212
Indeed, the U-Wing looks great!
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>>85124212
Those wings seem really stupid from a design perspective. These things are going to be worse at TIEs trying to fly through tight spaces, clipping objects, and then spinning off and exploding.
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>>85094704
>>85093378

I can't help but get the impression that these brackets where rigged just to spite Rebels fags.

BOTH girls go against Ahsoka? That's some grade a bullshit
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>>85122529
now they're going to bed
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>>85124326
So they can slice through anything they inevitably hit with their stupidly long wings? Which sadly probably includes allied ships.
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>>85124326
I would fucking love for the old Assault Gunboat from the EU/TIE Fighter to become canon again. Those things were the shit.
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>>85124347
All matchups were randomly generated. Just bad luck of the draw.
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>>85124441
>All matchups were randomly generated.

yeah I call bullshit
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>>85124358
You say that like they didn't attack first. They were the Jedi Babby Council, the secret rulers of the Jedi Order. You think those kids we saw in Episode II just happened to be combat training with the Grand Master of the Order? You think it a coincidence that they were so wise they could see through obvious shit Obi-Wan couldn't like a planet being erased from the archives?

Yoda had always despised everyone else in the Order for being taller than him. Forcing him to use that stupid hover chair just so he could glare at Windu in something approaching eye level. No, anon. The shortstacks were taking over! Kind of like Logan's Run when you hit your first growth spurt you have a little "accident."

So you see, Anakin wasn't a murderer. He was trying to free the Jedi Order all along.
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>>85124347
But anon, Ahsoka IS a Rebels girl now. Filoni ascended her to the winning team. Even the picture in the waifu off or whatever the fuck they're calling it was Rebels Ahsoka.
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>>85110360

>You got a asshole? cute asshole?
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>>85112794
Holy shit. I actually watched the whole thing and this guy includes a fucking summary at the end. And half of his retarded sin-ripoffs are literally trying to defend criticisms of the movie. But they don't even make sense. He defends the MarREY sue arguments when it comes to her being able to fend off dicks with her staff, but not when it comes to ANY of the force bullshit she pulls off. And what the fuck was he spouting out of his ass when he said
>Would flying really be that hard?
>it's not a plane. You're not worrying about wind, acceleration, or velocity
>it's more like driving a car
How are you this obsessed with the OT that you don't see how idiotic that logic is? The Millennium Falcom isn't a fucking car. Where would you even get that idea?
This video triggered me
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>>85124496
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>>85124372
>Donnie Yen tries flying bladed U-wing
>OH GOD I'M SO SORRY!
>HEEEEELP!

>>85124398
I looked it up because I never played TIE fighter, and one of my favorite Youtubers had some footage. There's so many controls with the Gunboat that you can effectively do co-pilot mode and it looked fucking bro-op tier.
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>>85124551
He gets paid for it.
People will do just about anything for money anon.
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>>85123681
There's an archive that goes from 23 to 153 on tpb
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>>85124551
Anon, spaceships don't care about wind and shit
Obviously
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>>85124639
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>>85124494
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>>85124661
That's obviously a sailboat.
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>>85124596
Always an oldie but goldie
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>>85124694
In space?
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>>85124494
well that's too bad
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>>85124716
Duh
Space is just water
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>>85124551
>it's not a plane. You're not worrying about wind, acceleration, or velocity
Which ignores the fact that Rey was piloting the Falcon in atmosphere. I don't even think Rey was a Mary Sue (I actually kind of liked her), but that argument is retarded.

Cars can't fly, even landing the Falcon requires at least a working familiarity with piloting flying craft. Christ, this is fucking obvious.
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>>85124716
Yes

powered by solar wind
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>>85124730
You're an idiot. Space is BLACK, stupid. That means it's oil, not water. We must send GW Bush into space to drill it! In an awesome drill mech! Penis drill mech!
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>>85124730
Which is why we have broadsides in space?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchA-lwqrPw
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>>85124730
Stars are just jellyfish
Planets are just rocks
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>>85124806
Which is why we have pirates in space. Don't you know that pirates can only live in water?

>Pirates using sand-dunes
>implying that sand isn't just dry water.
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>>85124791
>Space is BLACK
It was white but the SJW's changed it
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Added some minor effects to get that Grievous sound
What do you think?
I can probably do the rest of the lines if nobody else wants the role.

https://my.mixtape.moe/sdsesp.mp3
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>>85124842
But then they would be regular pirates if they were just in water
Pirates in space are SPACE PIRATES
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>>85124928
Pretty heckin' good, Anon.

BTW, what does Grieve-Tan sound like?
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>>85124928
Sounds pretty good to me, go for it
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>>85124928
Bretty gud
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>>85124928
I like it.

What accent does Greivous have?

>>85124954
Mere seman-
>spoiler
>filename
>[tubingintensifies]
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>tfw you can't wait to see more world building
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>>85125077
Rogue one emblem was fake though
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>>85124969
>>85125013
>>85125055
>>85125065
Thanks! I'll see what I can do with the other lines.

>What accent does Greivous have?
I don't even know It's sounding like some weird Russian-Spanish hybrid to me.
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>>85124551
>it's more like driving a car
KEK
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>>85124928
It's corrupt for me
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>>85125149
I always thought he had a bit of a French accent to him. But that's just me
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>>85125231
Same
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>>85124747
It's not like Rey didn't bump and scrap into shit while flying the Falcon. Fortunately the Falcon is more like Biff's car than a DeLorean.

Which as an analogy works perfectly given so many people declare manure about the whole thing.
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Why did George give Nemodians stereotypical Japanese Engrish accents?
What was going through his head?
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>>85125298
She flew it no problem. It was BS.
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>>85125373
Making shit up.jpg
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>>85125387
She lined it up so slave boy could fire, though. How is that not expert flying?
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It's time to get comfy anons.
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>>85125298
To me that was no worse than Luke outflying the Ties in the Death Star. He'd piloted before (entirely offscreen) and was accredited as a local hotshot (by a friend who was introduced to the audience in this scene), but he still manages to hold out against seasoned pilots. I realize that Biggs was going to be present on Tattooine, and so his reunion with Luke as-filmed was a follow up to that scene as well as a way to emphasize his flying abilities, but the same Sue-logic can easily still apply here.

About the only bullshit I'll be upset with is if Rey's a Skywalker, which extends a bit beyond her. The issue there would be that Anakin was so important that all of his descendants were also heir to his import.
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>>85125348
>Why did George give Nemodians stereotypical Japanese Engrish accents?

They don't sound Japanese to me. Don't know what it was, but it definitely not Japanese to my ears.

>What was going through his head?

The same thing that was going through his head when he gave other races different accents of different nations. Twi-leks = French, Gungans = Caribbean folk, ect.
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>>85125348
Why not?
Aren't the people who believe it's racist, ultimately the racists?
Because they connect an accent with a group of people?
There's nothing about them that is Japanese so I don't see the problem.

Had it been different if they had extremely British accents instead?
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>>85125520
Sleep tight Yoder.

Yes, f-forever sleep...
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>>85125539
It was definitely a Chinese Engrish accent.

>Gungans
>Carribbean

Gungans are lolnatives, Kit Fisto is lolCarribbean, which to Americans means Jamaican.
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>>85125556
>racist
When did I say anything about racism
It's hard to take villains seriously when they sound as goofy as they did
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>>85125101
Source?
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>>85124928
>corrupt file
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>>85125639
>>85125275
>>85125231
Is it corrupt for everyone or is it something else?
There's no point me recording this shit if nobody can hear it
What do?
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>>85125543
>Anakin built a droid and won a podrace when he was 8 and nobody bats an eye.
>Rey can fly a ship at 23 and everyone loses their minds.
I mean, it's pretty obvious that it runs in the family.
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>>85125503
That's the Force, anon. It's why both Rey and Finn were amazed at how both their actions aligned perfect to let them win against the last TIE. That one moment was, in essence, one of the earliest clues that Rey was Force Sensitive.
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>>85124928
Looks like mixtape's MP3 files are always corrupt. Convert the to wav and then reupload them.
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>>85125613
I just assumed you brought it up because you thought it was offensive.
I guess I'm just getting way too used to people getting offended about everything these days.
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>>85112794
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>>85125231
>>85125275
>>85125639
Just be something on your guys's end it works for me
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>>85125688
This>>85125739
There was some other Anon who had this problem too, he just uploaded .wav's instead and they worked.
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>>85125718
But her grandad is Kenobi anon, and he hated flying. I mean unless they got it from Padme or whatever.
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>>85125732
>That's the Force
b a d w r i t i n g
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>>85125532
The biggest problem is that they while Rey has a flight simulator written into her backstory they failed to show it in TFA. The scene with her wearing the pilot helmet should have included at least a minute or two showing her with the simulator pretending to be an ace for the Rebellion.
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>>85125811
So it's okay when the force allows an 8 year old boy to fly in one of the most deadly races in the galaxy and not only survive, but come in first place.
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>>85125811
>I-I don't like it
>t-therefore it's b-b-b-baaaaad
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>>85125718

To be fair, the film implied Anakin had prior experience. They didn't do the same for Rey. She just seemingly was able to fly it and do everything perfectly right off the bat.
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>>85125925
But they did
>We need a pilot!
>We've got one!
>...You!?
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>>85125853
Eh, depends on how it's written. .>>85125901
I wish it was good, anon. I really do. I doubt any fan wants a bad movie to come out just so they can shitpost about it, unless you're from /tv/
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>>85125853
I don't know... Anakin did race before and lost didn't he?
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>>85125845
In the counterpoint with Luke, his piloting skills get brought up shortly before the Death Star attack. His father was a pilot, and we are too assume that some of the skill rubbed off, but that's an inference made by the audience rather than something explicitly stated in the film. Up until that part, Luke's piloting was no more foreshadowed than Rey's.
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>>85125925
>She just seemingly was able to fly it and do everything perfectly right off the bat.

1. she didn't fly it perfectly right off the bat. First thing she actually did was crash back into the ground, scrap along it, and then destroyed, among other parts of the main trading city on Jakku, the tower. Finn even has to tell her to stay low because it confuses the TIE's tracking systems.

2. Rey actually has flown ships before. She says so in the movie after they defeat the TIEs, but since she and Finn are excitedly shouting at each other it's easy to miss.
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>>85125999
Considering you're the one swearing up and down in the thread that Rey flew perfectly, which didn't even happen in the movie, you're either shit posting or you never saw the movie and are just parroting complaints you read online.
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>>85126041
It does come up a few times earlier in the movie, though. When we do see him fly at the Death Star, Luke also doesn't really do anything particularly amazing until the very end, where he gets an explicit boost from the Force. In fact, without the Falcon coming in with a last minute save, Luke would've been fucked.
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>>85126107
It's like you can't post anything but fallacies.
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>>85126107
>that Rey flew perfectly, which didn't even happen in the movie
I'd say flying through the guts of a downed super star destroyer counts.
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>>85126197
It's okay, anon. Actually watching movies is hard, we sympathize with your condition, but youtube is here to help you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQqRLjsVdC0
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>>85126291
I told you I've seen the movie, why do you even do this? Just stop.
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>>85125765
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>>85126148
Falcon was a deus ex machina, which is not necessarily bad. I just don't have a problem with Rey's piloting skills being implied and/or not foreshadowed versus Luke's slight backstory in ANH.

Luke manages to infiltrate the Death Star along with Han and is responsible for blowing it up after surviving Darth Vader, both of which are considered significant achievements in-universe. Riffing on Rey because she outfights an injured Kylo Ren and uses the Force without prior instruction seems to be a criticism rooted in plot structure yet extends the consequences of that argument to the character concept. The frequency of her diegetic "feats" doesn't seem more or less significant than in any other film. In other words, I got the same chosen one vibe from both Luke and Rey (to say nothing of precocious-child Anakin). That's why I have trouble understanding the criticism that Rey was "too good" or "too special" when her character's place just really follows the trend.
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>>85126286
Considering we know she's spent a lifetime spelunking in ships like that is it so hard to fathom that she knew it had enough clearance for her to fly through? It's not like the TIE had any problems either and those things are notorious for flying into walls, asteroids, each other and exploding.
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>>85126291
For anyone curious Rey does seem to say she's flown some ships at 4:16 into the video. She adds a "but" however the sentence is cut off. I guess this is where she'd add that she never left the flight simulator?
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>>85126410
KEK
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>>85126052
>>85126107
>>85126291
It's probably true that Rey had experience flying ships prior to TFA. Yes, she did have trouble taking off (the ship always had trouble taking off) but literally a minute later she got the hang of it and was able to tricks and shit. Flying inside that Star Destroyer was a bit much. A normal star fighter would probably be easy to fly at first but the Falcon is massive. It would've taken a long time to even get the hang of flying it normally alone.
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>>85126291
>Rey flew perfect
>Fucked up the takeoff
>Hit by Tie pilots
>pulled off one in a hundred manuever
>to take out one enemy

She's clearly not born combat-ready.
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>>85126041
>Luke's piloting was no more foreshadowed than Rey's.
The scene where Luke is called the best bush pilot in the Outer Rims was re-added in the special edition, right? At least Luke says that he's not such a bad pilot when balking at the price Han Solo quoted them, so we knew he'd flown before. Which IS more than we knew about Rey to that point.
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>>85126569
Luke also mentions flying his T-16 and shooting womprats when Fake Wedge says hitting the exhaust port is impossible, so even without the added Biggs scene we still have another mention of Luke having piloting experience.
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It's a Rey is a a mary sue/not a mary sue episode

Look Anons, we already know Rey is in fact a Mary Sue.
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>>85126515
The video is right there in one of the posts you quoted. She's still having trouble not scraping the ground and the crashed ships, her "tricks" apparently include not outright crashing and dying which, yeah, that's a good trick. But that would have left us with a much shorter movie.

She's also still hit by the TIEs multiple times. She tries a feint once with one of the wrecks, trying to make the TIEs crash into it, but for once they avoid it. She's still having trouble flying in the SSD and actually made it easier for the TIE to target her since she doesn't have room to maneuver, which is why she leaves it. Then her biggest trick is ... pulling off a steep climb. This would have been a ridiculous maneuver if it hadn't aligned with with the TIE, but as others pointed out she does have the Force. We've seen time and again the untrained can do amazing things that they don't understand, and she does tell Finn outright she has no idea how they pulled it off.
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>>85126569
To me that's a somewhat small-scale comparison. That's hinging a character on a single line of dialogue rather than tracking how that character develops in the story or their underlying motivations. Keeping track of in-universe justifications for why characters can do certain things makes less sense for TFA because it is clearly in-dialogue with ANH and ESB. That's why TFA leaves the assumption that Rey is a good pilot to the audience rather than devote more than a few lines or scenes to it, it's trying to cast Rey, Finn, etc as somewhat archetypal (there's a drawback to this: what can be iconic can come off as generic, bland, or boring: Rey and a lot of SW main characters routinely run this risk).

That would be privileging Luke's whining about the Tosche Station in ANH against the maturation he undergoes on Dagobah, it only serves to minimize the scope of the argument and orient it around a few spoken lines.

>>85126645
Read it in Han's voice, kek'd
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>>85126044
Wait, no comics at all this week?
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>>85124626
What is TPB?
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>>85126857
Do you never check the Upcoming Releases link in the OP ever?
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>>85126787
Foreshadow doesn't require repetition. It CAN, and in this case as someone pointed out >>85126653
it did have backup before the Death Star scene.

With Rey given what she did foreshadowing most certainly would have helped, and it's obviously something they considered which is why the flight simulator is part of her character background. Leaving it out of the movie made no real sense, especially given it wouldn't have taken much to add a few seconds of her flying with that rebel helmet on before going outside to eat her meagre portions. The fact that they didn't seems to be feeding the odd position that Rey is an expert pilot at all when clearly she isn't in her first flight. But in this case I don't know if foreshadowing would have helped given pointing out how her aligning Finn's last shot was an early indication of her ability with the Force, but they refuse to accept that either.
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>>85126787
>long post trying to explain the bad writing
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>>85127021
>Stop Liking What I Don't Like, Episode I The Phantom Shitpost
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wew lad
Took longer than I thought it would and now my throat is scratchy but it was fun
I'm not sure how they sound so if any of it needs rerecording, I can probably try again tomorrow if that's not too late.
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>>85126787
What hurts Rey's character the most is that we don't really see any of her skills develop- she's already good at almost everything she does, and the only explanation we get is that she's strong in the Force and doesn't realize it, but even then we don't know why.

Luke and especially Anakin start off being special, but there's a reasoning there: Luke is the son of a Jedi and has inherited that connection (though he still has to work at it and the only moment in ANH where his Force connection is crucial is when he puts his trust in it to guide the proton torpedo- something Ben's ghost still has to remind him to do) and Anakin is the Chosen One and that give him insane reflexes and leads to ridiculous hijinx on the droid control ship, but even so his super-specialness comes with a caveat as TPM goes out of its way to remind us that there's a danger to this kid that makes high-ranking Jedi masters very uneasy. Even if you watched this without knowing he eventually becomes Vader, the movie tells you that his special nature is a potential double-edged sword.

With Rey... she's just special because the script says she is. I get that they don't want to reveal her full backstory just yet and they didn't have to, but we're given very little to go off and it comes across as watching someone be special and great purely for the sake of being special and great. There's nothing intriguing there.
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>>85127168
Fair is fair, who doesn't?
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>>85100889
It's one thing to join a discussion about a topic,

it's another to just post about an issue without the intention of talking to others about it (social media in general). It's just as Anthony Jeselnik said in a bit, it's just a way for people to indirectly vey for attention. 'It's just so tragic, but don't forget about me today!'.
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>>85127232
Good job anon, you do a decent Grievous!
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>>85126951
What I don't understand is how this fully linked to Rey's character or concept of character. What I was attempting to say in >>85125532 is that too often I see arguments about foreshadowing leading to conclusions that Rey is a mary sue. That seems to be a criticism about the structure of the film's plot rather than Rey's character, conflating a lack of proper foreshadowing with a bad depiction of character.

>>85127238
>It comes across as watching someone be special and great purely for the sake of being special and great.
I disagree, and it's weird that I do because I also think the force-trick in particular comes out of nowhere. Primarily, I found Rey's hardscrabble life on Jakku interesting, and TFA would have won me over if they had stayed with Rey on Jakku rather than throw her into the middle of an interstellar conflict.
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>>85127404
>TFA would have won me over if they had stayed with Rey on Jakku rather than throw her into the middle of an interstellar conflict
But the movie is about Luke and whatever the fuck the universe is going. What would she even do on not Tatooine for a whole movie?
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>>85127392
And it was at this moment that Grevious would lose a hand in like EVERY SINGLE FIGHT IN THE CLONE WARS
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>>85127238
>>85127404
To further the point because I ran out of room: what I found interesting about Rey as an inhabitant of Jakku rather than Rey-who-is-hugged-by-Leia is that there is where we see her struggle and her place.

She was pretty much a desert rat on Jakku, forced to scavenge to survive and pretty much at the mercy of the salvage master (whose species was just a human with gout, I thought the design was lame). I would have been much more interested in seeing what it took to survive on Jakku than her become a Jedi, and I feel that core of her character was very well done. What's jarring is that halfway through the film Han gets introduced, and Han basically steals every scene he's in.
I do feel like it would have been more interesting and truer to Rey's character should she take up Han's offer as a co-pilot, that seemed like the organic choice rather than her capture by the First Order (which seemed to just mirror Leia's capture).

>>85127561
Something experimental.
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>>85127563
>Hey, remember that time when Grevious lost his hands in the Obi wan fight?
>LET'S
>DO
>THAT
>AGAIN
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>>85127238
But what kind of skill development would have helped, or even been practical? She knows how to fight the local thugs on her world? Okay, but she's a young woman living alone on a mostly lawless planet (sorry, Zuvio, you never really made it into the movie more than a split second, if that) so it would make sense she can handle herself. She is good with repairs? She's living on a junk planet and rips apart ships for a living looking for vital components. Her home is in a wrecked walker and everything she owns she's had to build or repair herself. So she can figure out what's wrong with the Falcon, big whoop, and she can evade Starkiller Base personnel by crawling around in the internal structure of their headquarters to avoid their patrols.

Really her flying and Force skills are the only real problems. The flight simulator inclusion would have helped, but she never really flies as perfectly as people for some reason still claim, and she never could have escaped without Finn's help the entire time. The Force is a bit trickier. Her first major feat was resisting Kylo Ren, but big whoop there. It's not like we don't know Force Sensitives are harder to mentally manipulate. It seems to be because Poe was broken and we know he's strong willed, but again having the Force protects you. Even without training. Leia resisted Vader's attempts on the Death Star, after all, and he's VADER. Rey's fight with Ren once she let the Force be her guide still wasn't a very good fight. Brutal, sure, but even Ezra showed more skill (no surprise, he's actually been trained). She shows none of the elegance (relatively) that she did with her staff weapon.


It seems like people want her to be a Mary Sue, or feel in their hearts she is, so they'll remember events however they need to to justify it.
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>>85127238
>With Rey... she's just special because the script says she is. I get that they don't want to reveal her full backstory just yet and they didn't have to, but we're given very little to go off and it comes across as watching someone be special and great purely for the sake of being special and great. There's nothing intriguing there.
I think there's SOMETHING there, but it needed more development. She's a scrappy scavenger making a harsh living on a harsh planet, looking to the sky and passing by opportunities to leave because she's desperately waiting for someone. That in itself is an interesting premise for a character, but it just kind of gets sidetracked. Even her big epiphany just kind of happens.
>Space Grandma: Hey, those people aren't coming but you already knew that didn't you?
>Rey: Yeeeaaaah I guess I should just face it.
Then the movie just moves on and forgets what had previously been the driving motivation of this character.
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>>85126673
you got a link to that site, anon?
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>>85127632
>Oh Master Windu
>Oh I am so sorry you lost TWO hands
>Yes, whatever will you do without TWO of your precious hands.
>Oh, you must be so helpless without TWO hands
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>>85127632
Oh, and don't forget the rotating sabers, he's got to do that every time as well
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>>85126002
He crashed, but managed to (mostly) save the pod racer. He blamed it on Sebulba, too, if memory serves. Given what we saw of Sebulba's racing style and love of sabotage that's very probable.
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>>85127676
That's his thing man
He has to do his thing
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>>85127652
Someone posted it a few threads back. People were getting wildly different scores, so it's all based on how you consider the question. It's not like it's scientifically accurate, after all.

Kind of reminds me of the news Suicide Squad fans have started an online petition to have Rotten Tomatoes shut down. Because everything you do online is totally legally binding, right?
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>>85127232
Cool.

Some of these sound like the blurbs used in Dynasty Warriors as the battle progresses.

>No Battlefront/Musou hybrid
I made myself feel bad.
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We have voices for all characters now right?
>Maul
Yup
>Sheev
Yup
>Dooku
I think?
>Almec
Yup
>Commander Gar Saxon
Yup
>Rook Kast
Yup
>Battle Droid
Yup
>Super Battle Droid
Yup
>Commando Droid
Yup
>General Grievous
Yup
>Mandalorians
I dunno
There were some random mando lines, not sure if someone did them
>Victory or death!
>Victory or death!
>VICTORY OR DEATH!

>You cowards!
and

>To afraid to meet me face to face?

>Tactical Droid
Yup

>>85127652
http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm
There are a shit ton of questions if you plan on doing it
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>>85127644
>Really her flying and Force skills are the only real problems.
Which is what puts her over the edge for a lot of people. Her being good at piloting? It's unlikely but not impossible. Her being a good mechanic? Well that one's completely justified. Her translating her staff skills into lightsaber combat? A bit clunky, but she's also fighting an opponent who's had a hell of a day, so it's believable. Her resisting Kylo? Well, the Force is weird like that, but it works. Every character she meets taking an almost instant liking to her? That's a stretch, but okay. Kylo and Snoke believing there's something unique and special about her and wanting to harness her power and train her? Ooookay that's getting a bit out there.

You can take all of that, but then you throw in the most egregious example: Rey suddenly knowing how to use the mind trick for absolutely no reason. That's the one that sticks out to people and it paints their perception of her, taking all of those plausible things she does and pushing them all into "okay, this is just bullshit" territory.
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>>85127749
>online petition
Christ, why do people still believe in those?
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If vader's force-powers where permanently nerfed by all the shit that happened to him on mustafar, does that mean that force ability is affected by physical prowess.

could a really mediocre force-user get chosen-one levels of stronk, by doing a training montage set to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swo51-CG9Ss ?
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>>85127845
His potential was affected because he lodt limbs and therefore midichlorians. Hes still really powerful as Vader.

No, you can't get more powerful like that.
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>>85127824
That's kind of what it is for me. I don't think she's a Mary Sue, but they did make her good at too many things and her just being instantly gifted at Force stuff just put it over the top.
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>>85127644
>It seems like people want her to be a Mary Sue
Because she is a mary sue. Her only equal is Bella.
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>>85127824
There's a perception that she won the skills lottery, although was her flying really all that expert? Even discounting her crashing and scraping into things and basically flying like she was desperate, which she was, and she was vocalizing her panic...it was just two TIEs. Two TIEs that Finn destroyed. Hell, it's not Finn's fault that they hit his turret and got it locked in a bad position, that was her flying. The only thing spectacular she did at the end was lining his damaged gun up with the TIE, which was obviously the Force given even if she was aware of the TIE's position she wasn't sure of the angle of Finn's gun. He said "forward position" but it was pointing straight down, a very odd forward indeed when flying in a planet's atmosphere.
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>>85127965
midichlorians are a load of shit that storygroup is trying to distance itself from, tho
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>>85127826
I feel like we should make one to ban Pablo from coffee and also all hats being warn on Lucasfilm property or in the pursuit of any Lucasfilm business.

You know, just for shits and giggles.
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>>85128008
This seems a bit questionable
>Snape a mary sue
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>>85128008
>Harry is a mary sue
dude harry is literally james 2.0 he's a fucking cock to anyone that isn't in his friend group or anyone he deems untrustworthy based on no fucking evidence
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>>85128071
No it isn't and no they aren't.
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>>85128008
She's more Harry Potter and Snape's purple eyed child. Bella still wins hands down, especially since her story is known. Rey, bless her little mummy wrappings, still has more of her story to go.
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>>85128008
AT this point, the description is so vague, everyone is either a mary sue or a horrible writer
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>>85128053
>The only thing spectacular she did at the end was lining his damaged gun up with the TIE
There's also flying through the star destroyer, which even if you go with the excuse that she was familiar enough the wrecks, you'd still need fast reflexes to pull off something like that. It's probably an unconscious Force assist, but it does make her look really good for someone who a minute ago had trouble even getting the Falcon into the air safely.
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>>85128071
Hah
We're embracing midichlorians more than ever now
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>>85128181
At least Bella was fucking useless, which is at the very least believable. Until she became a vampire anyway. >>85128215
You can look up mary sue on a description site. Mary Sue isn't vague at all.
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>>85127965
The Force doesn't work like that.

Anakin's potential as Vader was curtailed by two things. One was his evil boss who has a habit of making sure his underlings never get so much power they threaten him. He learned that from Plagueis, the fun way. Not for Plagueis, though.

Sure Sheev told Yoda that Anakin would be more powerful than either of them, but he was taunting Yoda. As in even if Yoda wins he still loses because Anakin is corrupted now. Yoda didn't rise to the bait.

The second thing is that Anakin's potential wrecked by his becoming a servant of the Dark Side. He becomes a slave to his passions, his less admirable emotions, and fucks up everything he touches (no real change there, then). From Yoda's certain point of view Luke proved he was more powerful than either the Emperor or Vader by denying the Dark Side, and he'd still consider Luke stronger even if they could crush Luke with their minds. Which they could.
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>>85128346
You're confusing Legends with canon m8
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>>85128272
>ywn have a quirky butler battle droid that bakes you cookies
;-;
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>>85128346
>One was his evil boss who has a habit of making sure his underlings never get so much power they threaten him.
But he's outright said he's disappointed at what happened with Vader on Mustafar.
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>>85128284
You can find any of a dozen definitions for Mary Sue these days. That's because it's origin is from a Star Trek fanfic. One that was PARODY, too.

By the original definition it's hard to say Rey would count, since you'd have to prove that TFA is fanfiction. You might get some traction with JJ but Kasdan, and either way it's an official production. At this point you'll probably have to look at Canon Sue.
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>>85123575
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>>85125901
>b-b-b-baaaaad
For real though, try saying that out loud. People don't stammer like that
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>>85128346
>Sure Sheev told Yoda that Anakin would be more powerful than either of them, but he was taunting Yoda. As in even if Yoda wins he still loses because Anakin is corrupted now. Yoda didn't rise to the bait.
That's the weirdest interpretation of that line I've ever seen. Also wrong because Lucas confirmed Anakin was supposed to become more powerful than Palpatine.
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>>85128416
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>>85128416
>Instead you'll get Mister Bones.
SO QUIRKY
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>>85128393
Legends is where people argued over whether Vader lost power when he lost flesh. According to the new canon Vader didn't lose anything. There is an anon who claimed that Anakin lost his maximum potential along with his limbs, but that doesn't make any sense since if some of his power came from having arms and legs then you can't just take some off the top of his maximum possible power. Anakin, just after Obi-Wan lopped off his body parts, would have already had his power limited. IF part of his power was in those bodyparts.

The whole thing doesn't make sense if you think about it like that.
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>>85128438
>You can find any of a dozen definitions for Mary Sue these days
A dozen definitions is anything but vague.
>One that was PARODY, too.
Yes? And?
>By the original definition it's hard to say Rey would count, since you'd have to prove that TFA is fanfiction.
It doesn't have to be fanfiction, it's just prevalent in ff.
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>>85128430
Where did you get that? He felt Vader needed help and was amazed he was alive, then overjoyed when he saw how powerful his new apprentice's anger was.

He might be disappointed in the failure but Anakin becoming a walking cyborg nightmare fell so perfectly in line with what Sheev would have wanted in Anakin, I wouldn't be surprised that if Obi-Wan hadn't damaged him then Sheev would have arranged it himself.
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>>85128565
>According to the new canon Vader didn't lose anything.

Wrong.

>There is an anon who claimed that Anakin lost his maximum potential along with his limbs, but that doesn't make any sense since if some of his power came from having arms and legs then you can't just take some off the top of his maximum possible power. Anakin, just after Obi-Wan lopped off his body parts, would have already had his power limited.

No, the anon said he lost his potential. Which is true. His Mustafar injuries limited his true potential. He lost midichlorians when he lost limbs
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>>85127806
It's going much more smoothly than I anticipated.

I know cAnon's done a lot already but if he gives us a list of what specifically still needs recording, I think that the lines can be finished in a couple of days.
There's still a lot of editing which needs to be done though.
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>>85128478
Yoda outright tells Luke that the Dark Side isn't stronger.

Nobody is saying Vader couldn't have become stronger than the Emperor. He was obviously capable of killing him, under the right conditions. But that doesn't negate the fact that Yoda sees his falling to the Dark Side as a failure. Hell, anon, Obi-Wan tells him the same thing. He's only a master of evil. Vader is a slave to the Dark Side, and it has consumed his destiny.

The very fact that Lucas said Dark Siders cannot becoming ghosts, cannot, "become more powerful than you could possibly imagine" blows your idea out of the water.
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>>85125688
It's not corrupt for me.

>>85128750
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>>85128565
>According to the new canon Vader didn't lose anything.
Oh it's this guy again.
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>>85128692
>Wrong.
Read Lords of the Sith. Seriously, why haven't you already? It's a good book.

>No, the anon said he lost his potential. Which is true. His Mustafar injuries limited his true potential. He lost midichlorians when he lost limbs.

Again, that would only be possible if some of Anakin's potential was IN his limbs. His power would have to be in that tissue. This means when he lost them he wouldn't have just lost maximum potential but he'd have had to have lost his current power. But from what we saw he was just as powerful and Sheev was delighted when he crushed all the droids around him in a display of rage and pain.

You're trying to claim that the POTENTIAL for power is in his limbs but not the power itself, which is nonsense. You can't have it both ways.
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>>85128770
Anakin's potential has nothing to do with the dark side, though. He was going to be extremely powerful regardless of which side he chose. Also this isn't my idea, it's Lucas's.
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>>85128565
>There is an anon who claimed that Anakin lost his maximum potential along with his limbs
You mean George Lucas?

Also isn't this like the fifth time you've come around here with your "B-BUT LORDS OF THE SITH DISPROVES LUCAS COMPLETELY!" bullshit even though it doesn't?
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>>85128947
Anakin's potential has everything to do with the Dark Side once he becomes Vader. He stops using the Light and relies only on the Dark. How can you say it's separate? This is also straight from Lucas.
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>>85128854
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>>85128912
I like how you keep trying to bring up this argument even though it ends the same way each time, with nobody supporting you.
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>>85128711
Agreed!
If there's more stuff needed to be done, I'd love to help.
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>>85129003
We get it, you love shitposting on this point. You weren't the same guy freakout out over midi-chlorians before, were you? If you aren't you sound like Master and Apprentice.
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>>85128750
Good friends
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>>85129024
>Anakin's potential has everything to do with the Dark Side once he becomes Vader.
Anakin's potential existed regardless of whether he became Vader or not. You're taking a very literal interpretation of what Palpatine said.
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>>85129064
Remember, anons, don't feed the Sarlacc.
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>>85128750
She was a good friend
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>>85129123
You're not getting this. His potential, his maximum he could attain, is limited by his life choices. Becoming a servant of the Dark Side absolutely limits his ability to fully understand or use the Force. At the very least his inability to ever achieve ghosthood proves that there are things he simply cannot do when he's relying on the Dark Side.

This is and always was a key factor in his corruption into Vader. It was a part of his character since A New Hope.
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>>85129024
But Anakin was already going to be powerful, becoming Vader just meant he'd be a powerful Sith instead of a powerful Jedi.
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>>85129243
I get that. What I'm saying is that this is completely unrelated to what Palpatine is saying when he says Vader will become stronger than him or Yoda. I'm not arguing that Vader at his full potential would be equally powerful to Anakin at his full potential, I'm not arguing that the dark side is stronger, all I'm saying is that this isn't what Palpatine is talking about.
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>>85129243
Wait, what does this have to do with Sheev saying he'll be more powerful than either him or Yoda?
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>>85129423
Nothing, which is strange given we know that Vader's growth with the Dark Side is ultimately reliant on Sheev who is the only source for all the teachings of the Sith. Is it likely that Sheev will each him everything when one of his most important lessons to Anakin about Darth Plagueis the Wise was how once the Master teaches everything of value the student tends to murder him?
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>>85127676
I like the idea that he pretty much did that every time he fought with a Jedi and by the time he was on Utapau, Obi Wan had widened up to his shit and was able to finally defeat him
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>>85128912
>possible if some of Anakin's potential was IN his limbs.
Midichlorians are literally in your blood m8. He lost midichlorians when he lost his limbs.

>>85129243
Sith can't become Force Ghosts because they are focused on becoming immortal, not living beyond death.
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>>85129371
>dat Tarkin

This is my only line.
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>>85129382
The point is that as long as Sheev is his master Vader is forced to rely on him for his growth as a Sith, and Sheev knows what happens when the Apprentice becomes too powerful. When your growth with the Dark Side relies on being trained by a man who has every reason not to let you get more powerful than he is, especially a man capable of orchestrating a false war and outwitting the entire Jedi Order, as well as manipulating the fall of that very same Apprentice from the beginning, is this really out of the realm of possibility?
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>>85129371
I'm guessing this scene is a few years after the formation of the Empire right?
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>>85128750
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>>85124307
Hopefully JJ and Pegg won't be working on any more Star Wars films. It's face it if they had the chance they would erase the PT and everything involved with it.
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So how often did Unkar Plutt rape Rey when she grew up?
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>>85129751
Probably a lot.
That's why she didn't want to leave Jakku. Unkar would come after her and give her the punishment!
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You can't really compare Anakin and Rey. Anakin doesn't even really qualify as human, he was created by the Force itself.
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>>85129751
More than often.

Because bloat-humans wish to steal the virginity of the non-bloats.
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>>85129623
Midi-chlorians aren't batteries that provide you with Force energy to power your abilities. Hell, we already talked about this in the thread hours ago. If they were then people would be artificially boosting themselves with midi-chlorians. The Force exists in bodies regardless. midi-chlorians are merely conduits, but the Force exists everywhere. When Talzin was harvesting Living Force with her cult they were targeting the energy directly, not just harvesting midi-chlorians. Midi-chlorians weren't even mentioned.

The notion of them as battery power for Jedi and Sith is vague Legends nonsense.

Also Sith cannot become ghosts because they cannot let go of themselves, they cannot ever fully know themselves. They are ultimately afraid, as Sheev said they all are, of losing their power, thus they cannot master themselves. Yoda learned that a key is the ability to know himself, including his Dark Side, and having enough control to let go even of his own life. That's the only path of finding something beyond life.
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>>85129686
Supposedly. Pablo is claiming technicality about the whole DS being built thing and that being shown in ROTS. It had to be a timeskip between that scene and the rest of the movie or something.
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>>85129275
Because we've known since the OT that the Dark Side not only isn't more powerful than the Light but that the Light is the key to becoming more powerful than you could possibly imagine. You can become a true immortal and one with the Cosmic Force itself, with your mind intact, and gain all the secrets and knowledge when you are no longer bound by time and space.

But since the ghost stuff is additional that most Jedi or other Light Side users will ever discover, it's technically up in the air. Yoda against Dooku and later Sheev would seem to suggest that he was ultimately stronger than each of them, though screwed by bad luck in the final battle when he fell. Whether that means the Light is stronger? No, it merely suggests that Yoda could parry their lightning, or negate it, or resist it enough to explode it in Sheev's face while Sith Lord was freaking out.
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>>85130032
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>>85130032
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>>85129848
Pablo compared midichlorians with mitochondria, some organism we have in our bodies that provide energy to cells. Without them wouldn't live.
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>>85129848
>Midi-chlorians aren't batteries that provide you with Force energy to power your abilities.
I didn't claim they were. They are an indicator of force sensitivity, and the more you have, the more force sensitive you are. Anakin lost midichlorians, therefore he lost force potential.

>Also Sith cannot become ghosts because they cannot let go of themselves

Canon says otherwise.
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>>85130113
That's earlier than Pablo, anon. That's where Lucas got the name from. It goes back to the 70s.

Of course even with what Pablo said mitochondria aren't responsible for life. They're responsible for larger multicellular organisms, so without them humans and by extension sentience as we define it would be impossible, but not life itself. There were plenty of single celled organisms before them. It's the symbiosis, another thing Lucas really ran with during the Prequels, where a single celled organism becomes so bonded to our larger cells in our bodies that it provides necessary power that is key factor. Symbiotic, but still with their own genetic structure.

But ultimately midi-chlorians were merely the source of life energy and symbiotically linked with life and a necessary part of how the Cosmic and Living Forces work. It was never stated that they provide the power, only that they whisper the will of the Force, their link to the Cosmic.
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>>85130186
>Canon says otherwise.
Canon, and Lucas, have said exactly that. Did you never watch season 6 of The Clone Wars? Yoda goes through very specific tests to see if he's both worthy and capable, none of which a Sith could have accomplished, and the ultimate of which included being able to let go of his own life, to sacrifice himself.
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>>85130186
>They are an indicator of force sensitivity, and the more you have, the more force sensitive you are. Anakin lost midichlorians, therefore he lost force potential.
They are a potential indicator, anon. Just having them isn't enough to prove you're Force Sensitive or the Council wouldn't have tested Anakin. They already had Qui-Gon's report on the blood sample and could test it themselves.
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>>85130186
>Canon says otherwise.
No Sith has ever become a ghost in canon, though. Unless you're thinking of Darth Bane, which was explicitly an illusion created by the Priestesses.
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>>85130186
Oh boy Time to post the transcription again.

>I was very apprehensive of this scene...because of the implication of it: which is that these Sith Lords could separate themselves from the Force and somehow talk to the Son. That seems like a big deal.

>But eventually I got a call from George, and he said "You know I've been really thinking about this, and we should really take that scene out with the Sith Lords"

>And has disappointing as it was...it was absolutley the right thing to do - because they can't exist in that form; they can't exist in that way. But I think for fans it would be neat to know that at least that idea was considered, we went very far with it, that in the end after discussions it was really George that said "No, I thought this would be good, I wanted to do this - but it doesn't jive with my bigger explanation of the Force."

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