DC REBOOT WHEN?

>>85082793
>ANOTHER FRESH REVIEW PART 2.
>IN THEATHERS AUGUST 8

>>85082793
Are people surprised? The trailers and clips were horrendous.

>>85082793
Who cares? If BvS has taught us anything, it's that Disney just pays off all the reviews to trash the movie.

What's wrong with it?

>>85082793
just wait until just before WW comes out. the cycle continues.

the executives at WB/DC are shitting their pants. There's only so much leeway the audiences can give them before they abandon them. So far the DC movie universe consists of two (soon to be three) middling to bad films.

and yet fanboys will line up for Justice League Part 1: by visionary director Zach Snyder.

It's one, two, three strikes you're out.

>>85082906
Ahh, these guys are like the first birds of spring, signaling the release of another DC movie.

Can WB sell DC soon?
Just don't give em to Sony.

>>85082909
It was held back by it"s PG-13 rating

Hehe they're not tricking me out of my money. Never again DC!!

>>85082974
>letting the Disney shills fool you
Anon, Suicide Squad is going to be absolute kino that you should make sure you go to see at both the midnight release and opening night. Trust me, this is one you're going to want to see multiple times, it's THAT good.

>>85082955
>Just don't give em to Sony.
Listen, WB clearly doesn't know what the fuck it's doing, but lets not say things we can't take back, alright?

WB just might sell DC at this point.

>>85082793
It got caught right in the middle of the turnaround from dark and gritty to a lighter tone for DC movies.

Not suprised it came out like this.

>>85082993
Nah, after BvS I kinda vowed to stay away. I was just too mad.

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Well, at least we always have animated movies... Right?

R-Right?

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>>85082993
>Disney shills
>absolute kino

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>>85083039

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>>85083001

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Going up a bit but the pattern is setting and doesn't look good for the movie

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Apologize

>>85083094
He did.

So Snyder, Marvel v DC shit aside.
When the fuck does Kevin Tsujihara get the axe at WB? He has been godawful as a studio head, and can't seem to produce a well recieved tentpole flick to save his life?

>>85083085

Look on the bright side, it's still getting better reviews than BvS

>>85083030
>I'm not going to see this movie because the last one was too intellectually thought-provoking for me to understand
wew lad. Maybe you should stick to Memevel's quip fests. They're probably a bit more your speed.

>>85082793

The same people that gave ghostbusters 74% fresh ratings.

>>85082793
>+50,000 want to see it
>only 7 reviews: 6 bad, 1 good
>acting like this is the death of DC
Are you actually retarded?
>>85083085
>already getting more reviews that are ranging more
I rest my case.
Op is a faggot.
At least wait till more reviews are in. You're making marvel fans look bad.

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Why did they make it PG?!!

>yfw Sausage Party does better both critically and financially

>>85083094
how do anons on here STILL take early twitter hype seriously? jesus I remember when The Last Airbender had early twitter hype

it literally means nothing

>>85083162
Yes, the same people that gave a good movie a good score are now giving a bad movie a bad score. It's unbelievable.

>>>/tv/

>>85083174
OBJECTION
Even the first dozen of reviews that deadpool recieved were 5 bad and 7 good.

>>85083208
Critics live to shit on blockbusters so this is the last bit of attention they will get this year

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>>85083188
>yfw Nine Lives gets better reviews

>>85083208
but don't you know all those positive reviews were SJW SHILLS

its why Warcraft and BvS got bad reviews! The critics were paid by DISNEY and FEMINISTS to dislike them!

>>85083208

Its a good thing that you are a tripfag, so we know who is the retard in future arguments, that movie was shit.

Stale bait 2/10, virgin kissless detected.

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>>85083158
>too thought provoking
Literally laughed out loud.

>>85083158
It was very disappointing desu. It promised so much and delivered so little. I would say it was pointless to watch it.

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>>85083174
>You're making marvel fans look bad.
The way that console war faggotry has taken over /co/ in the past couple years is fucking disgusting. Thanks /tv/.

>>85083294
Did you watch the Ultimate Edition? Because it fixes pretty much every problem in the movie and is well worth seeing. It's the "true" version of the movie and Snyder's vision, not the bastardized version that the executives shoved out for general audiences.

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>>85083039
DELETE THIS!!!

Is anyone even surprised at this point?

>>>/tv/

I'm really sad.

I wanted DC to get at least one good movie so they'd stop clinging so hard to Zack Snyder's garbage. If Suicide Squad were at least decent, maybe some people could stop lying to themselves about how much they loved BvS and how brilliant it was.

Now they've just got more trash to defend.

It's still going to make a shit tonne and going to be mindless fun. I'd take a B v S over Avengers 2 or Civil War any day.

Anyone have that audience reaction DCEU flowchart saved?

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DC-fags now know how it feels to be an X-Fag.

>Initial trailer gets released
>Interest is piqued
>Memevel fans shit all over it because it isn't a lighthearted quipfest
>Studio freaks out after the chopshop version of BvS doesn't do that well, and rightfully so
>Decide to listen to memevel fan complaints and put Suicide Squad through the chopshop too to make it more lighthearted and whacky
>Gets a PG rating
>Is naturally a hot mess when it finally releases

All we can hope for is an extended DVD version, that's it.

Fucking bravo.

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>>85083184
sadly, some rating won't change a movie being bad to good. Still seeing tho.

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>>85083039

>>85083271
The positive reviews for Ghostbusters were mostly "6/10, this movie didn't give me eye cancer, so it's okay I guess," mixed in with a few true believers whose reviews were so astoundingly retarded that nobody could take them seriously ("hehs to haas to lols"). It's a trash film, but people went easy on it because of social pressure, not payola.

>>85083370
yeah but you're a fanboy, no one cares what you think

SAVE US PATTY JENKINS!

>>85083261
>Critics live to shit on blockbusters so this is the last bit of attention they will get this year

Of course, just like how they shit on Deadpool, The Jungle Book, Civil War, Star Trek Beyond...

>>85083330
The director's cut was still garbage, don't fool yourself.

WW might as well be cancelled that movie is going to get savaged
Justice League is gonna get shit on as well

>tfw was actually excited for some mindless fun

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D A M A G E D
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>>85083434
Was Jungke Book a blockbuster? Are those movie designed to make money.

So, how are they going to ruin Wonder Woman before that gets released?

They messed with SS because everybody hated BvS, so how will they mess with Wonder Woman?

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>>85083476
D A M A G E D

>>85083330
That's cheating. Gotta play by the rules now. A good movie doesn't need 4 hours and a guidebook to get its message across. It's gotta be 2 hours of actual entertainment.

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Maybe Warner should just follow Rich Evans' suggestion: give up and license everything to Marvel Studios. They know how to do this competently.

>>85083287
shut the fuck up you fucking nigger

>>85082793
Oh boy. At this point watching DC movies fail has become severly depressing.
I was legitimately thinking this one might be the oddball that could break the chain.
But alas, it's just another agonizing step of theirs trying to force their universe to come together.

>>>/tv/

>7 reviews
I'd wait until there were a bit more before jumping on a score like that
I'll probably still see it but I have low expectations

>>85083441
Oh fuck off, the trailers for both were absolutely amazing and I can guarantee that they're going to be great.

SAVE US WONDY

>>85082793
So when are heads gonna start rolling?

>>85082793
Maybe this time we'll get writers and directors who support the source material.

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He tried to warn you, but you didn't listen.

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So this is more of a DC feature than just a Snyder one then?

>>85083222
Bullshit. That was above 70% on launch

>>85083568
Watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9MjMPoWERY

Don't tell me you didn't cringe.

>>85083390
Except the X-men movies are usually pretty good. Apocalypse may have been kinda shitty, but Deadpool was fantastic.

>>85083476
That's honestly really surprising to hear, didn't they do reshoots specifically to add more comedy?

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>>85083543
is 25 enough?

>>85082956
Yeah. if anything needed to be an R rated movie like Deadpool. It was Suicide Squad, since for bad guys they act way too tame and cartoony to be really the psychos they need to be. I want to see Joker acid someone's face off and Croc dining on some poor bastards organs. And it needs to be graphic violent to suit the characters like in the cartoon movie but even more so. This should have been like an action horror movie.

>>85083568
The trailers for every film in this universe have looked really good (except Justice League). It's the other 1hr58 minutes they keep fucking up.

So, we're sitting at 24 reviews, and a 38%. Does SS have a hope in hell of reaching fresh?

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>>85082793
HOOOOOW

If this was good at least we could've made it official that Snyder was the problem

WE'RE GETTING NO SUCH LUXURY

>>85083579
Not Zack Snyder's nor Geoff Johns' (who apparently rewrote SS's 3rd act).

>>85083476
>>85083496
I think they were all paid by Disney to write that.

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>>85082793

>>85082906
Do you cut yourself whenever you see someone being negative about DC?

>>85083633
No.

A 50-60% is probably the best it'll get.

>>85083622
>jumped from 14% to 33%
It's pretty obvious that it's going to keep climbing and the rottens were just salty marvelshills that just happened to get their reviews out the door first in order to make things look worse than they actually are since its pretty obvious at this point that you can't trust rt reviews because they're almost all paid off by disney I for one already bought 3 sets of tickets so I can marathon it and I think you should too don't let the shills bring you down man this movie is going to be amazing I can already tell dude lol.

>>85083634
Even if they do reshoots to slightly change the tone of the films they ultimately can't wash Snyder's stink off this film universe. It's too late.

>>85083622
Make it 75, which is the number of Rottens that Marvel has on it's lowest rated film (TIH).

Not that it still has a chance, but still fair is fair.

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>>85082929
>the executives at WB/DC are shitting their pants

anyone says Wonder Woman?

Being a DC fan is suffering. No good films in the last couple years.

>>85083600
Snyder produced m8. His taint is inescapable.

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How the fuck can they mess up three times in a row?

>>85082993
I'm starting to like this "kino" meme now - it allows me to identify retards just by seeing who uses it.

This is what happens when you let a shit movie like Man of Steel set the tone for your Cinematic U.

As soon as they confirmed they were building from there I knew the whole thing was fucked.

>>85083622
The fact that there's still majority negative is enough, yea
Although the score is slowly climbing, so maybe it won't be complete and utter shit
Still, like I said, I have low expectations

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>>85083039
>Bad Blood is better than the fucking Killing Joke
>Bad Blood is the best DC movie period of the year
How and why did this happen?

>>85083476
>Suicide Squad is an excellent quirky, proud raised middle finger to the staid superhoer-movei establishment

>>85082906
and yet it's WB who have been caught doing that

>>85083689
Holly shit, their """"future"""" now rests in a wondy film and Zack Snyder's JUSTice League.

Shit, they just wasted the fucking Joker, the one thing they had over Marvel was "better villains".

>>85083612
That was fucking great what are you talking about? I swear /co/ has such shit taste in movies this is so clearly kino and you can't even tell. It's pretty pathetic that this is what marvelfags have come to desu senpai.

>>85083579
Tsujihara is gonna be out by the end of WB's fiscal year. Since coming in Jan. 2013, he has not had the blockbusters to pair with some good Oscar years. Also, the lack of animation when Disney and Universal's Illumination are kicking ass is disappointing when you're sitting on fucking Looney Tunes and Hanna Barbara. At least they're starting that up next year.

WB will meet the bare minimum of the Snyders' contract. If that means needing to complete JL 2 with them, then that's it. Nothing else is gonna be added until after JL 1's release.

>>85083620
Its stupid folks really believe you can change the tone of a film in a three week shoot. Considering it takes a good day to even get 3 mins of film.

>>85083633
Its too low now
and right now you are seeing the fanboy reviews the professional critic reviews will not be kind

Dc cant win i give up

Whats the best site to livestream suicide?

>>85083728
MARVEL'S GONNA FREAK

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>>85083712
take a wild guess

>>85083736
The movie looks fun, but that scene is actually awful.

Rick flaggs acting is so bad, and katanas sword stance is fucking laughable.

>>85083612
I expected Harley to bring the cringe, but damn Kinnaman acted like he was reading his lines for the first time

>>85083727
RT doesn't exactly match quality, just met expectations, hence why Ghostbusters has a fresh (non-certified) and worse movies have rotten, and sausage party is at 100%.

That being the case, SS might still suck. The trick is to make a movie that looks abhorrent in the trailers that's somewhat decent, and use the 100% on the ads.

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1/2

>>85083734
WW is gonna flop look at what its up against
I don't expect anything good from that movie but you might see a ghostbusters like reception just because

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>36%
>going down

>>85083730
POST SOME FUCKING SOURCE FOR THAT BULLSHIT YOU DISNEYSHILL

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>>85083788
2/2

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>>85083390
TFW both

>>85082793
Kek, in an attempt at making their movies FEEL real, they just turned their entire fanbase into a suicide squad.

>>85083503
Fucking kill yourself DCuck.

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>>85082793

So anyone thinks that this is a good movie then?

>>85082793
Does every single negative review mention Marvel or a Marvel film? This is surreal. Try it, click a random negative review and there it is.

>>85083783
>implying anyone cares about sword stance

>>85083787
But Killing Joke and BvS were shit. So was that Justice League vs. Teen Titans movie but nobody cares about that.

I don't understand Marvelshills. Surely more competition is a good thing if Marvel was the sole producer of Superhero films they would be uninspired mess like Civil war or Avengers 2.

>>85083330
I never saw the theatrical but the Ultimate edition was pure garbage. You can't save a movie by just cramming more shit into it. It still had a slow meandering plot with no motivations, a shitty Luthor who made no sense, shit action, and a flat gadot acting, not chest

>>85083849
no

So begins the apologism.

>>85083849
>MUH SJW SHILLS

it was a decent comedy movie with a director that has a great track record.

>>85083684
But you see, apparently this movie's problem isn't tone. From what i've gathered it's just bland despite the premise. They had this squad of weirdos, Joker, Will Smith, maybe Batman, and best they could think of was "they're dick at first but then zombies come so they fight the witch and save the day" ? I've also read the CG is kinda bad here and there, so even the action isn't spectacular. Characters like Katana barely do anything. Joker barely does anything despite the preminence in trailers

Basically this is giving me Apocalypse vibes, the movie isn't BAD, but does enough mis-steps to not be actually good. At least it won't have stuff as retarded like "i forgive you Eric for killing millions of people" i guess

>>85083877
>who made no sense
Confirmed too stupid to understand the subtle nuances of his performance. Opinion discarded.

>>85083849
I did

>>85083788
>>85083822
EVERY TIME WB

>>85083849
disneyfags probably do since they worship rotten tomatoes scores

>>85083892
>decent comedy
No it wasn't

>>85083390
But X-Men movies overall get good scores. DOFP is 91% fresh.

>>85083478
It made $360 million in the domestic, and nearly a billion when you add international. I'd say that would count.

*sigh* The reviews are disappointing, but there's still a chance it's just a matter of critics and audiences expecting/wanting different things.

On the bright side, The Little Prince is coming to Netflix that day, and that seems to be doing pretty well.

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>>85083686
>AoU isn't rotten

>>85082793
If today's RT trashes it, then it must be good.

>>85083851
That's what happens when you create movies of such consistently high quality and appeal that they set the standard. People make comparisons.

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>>85083736
You really those lines delivered by Joel (military guy) were ''fucking great''?!

...

Here, watch proper kino first before you declade X is ''fucking great''.

>>85083287
>phone screenshot of a shitty macro that was later put through meme generator resulting in two mismatched layers of text
This may be the most cancerous thing I've ever seen. Consult a doctor and then kill yourself anyway because medical science has not advanced far enough to help you

>Once busted out, she goes on to be Suicide Squad’s best and brightest, Robbie playing it coy and male-fantasy sexy, cute and crazy. Sure, it can be argued that Suicide Squad puts gender issues back by 30 years – its guys are covered, its ladies all but unclad, with Harley squeezed into itsy-bitsy shorts and a tight T emblazoned with ‘Daddy’s lil monster’

Quality reviews

>>85083874
Oh I'd love for there to be actual competition, I don't care who's in front as long as it's good.I was never excited for BvS but I was at least cautiously optimistic for SS. I'll wait and see though, maybe the directors cut will be worth a watch.

Personally i don't give a fuck anymore, about RT's reviews, especially after the ridiculous "fresh"score to a garbage like the Ghostbusters. It's clear that the reviewers are serving the interests of a certain company, and particular political ideas and propaganda.

>>85082998

How about selling dc to fox

That way marvel gets everything back

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>still taking rotten tomatoes seriously
>the shallows is also super fresh

I'll wait till I see it. According to this shit, those 2 movies are really good.

>>85083921

Yeah and Apocalypse being a very competent film specially compared with Civil War got a shit score to made it seem that among the big movies only Civil War got a good score

>>85083782
He's a mole working for Disney.

>>85083849
Yes. Saw it the other weekend and I liked it. Would watch for 10 hours straight over another minute of BvS: Super Duper Delux Ultra Edition Starring Dante from Devil May Cry.

>>85083849
Ghostbusters was one of those "too important to fail" situations. What could those hacks do after spending months defending it just for existing? Of course RT isn't perfect by any means, but mind the context, there's no similar stakes in Suicide Squad unless you believe the "Disney is paying every critic ever to shit on DC" meme

>>85083791
Eh, there's enough DC hate and tumblr "love" to actually make it a contention point. It's a toss up at this point, but I doubt it will get certified fresh.

>>85083849
See >>85083787

>>85083873
Animated, almost direct-to-tv movies don't really gather a lot of attention. Same with TV shows that only evaluate the first couple of episodes. That's where Metacritic shines. Killing joke still got shitty because people were expecting the animation to be better than what they showed (the old "unfinished" argument). It's not

>>85083927
The first watch met expectations though. And it still got a lower score than usual, but every character got served and the story at least made sense. Things progressed in character, even is a couple of times the characters were just different Tony Starks. You still had good moments in the first (Party scene, intro) and third (the last fight, Vision) acts.


It's not an exact science, I'm just trying to tell you how to approach it for a better, yet not perfect, read on the tomatometer.

>>85083920
>opinions

only difference is more people share my opinion than yours

>>85083936
But Marvel movies are only decent. There's not a single Marvel movie that I'd like to see twice.

>>85083990

Oh look is the retard again with the retardposting.

>>85083849
>6.6/10

It's just a forgettable cash-in. It's not as shit as you want it to be but that doesn't mean it was good either.

>>85083999
Fucking this holy shit.

>>85083990
Literally kill your self.

>>85084029
difference is that they are consistently decent.

Hell, I disliked Ant-Man for being all around generic with poor pacing issues and lackluster visuals. It's STILL better than anything from the new DC movies.

>>85083980
Ah, so you're just salty.

>>85084029
That's why they don't get 100%. It's how averages work. They are mindless, but not offensively bad or anything, and the best of them (not all, by far) work on different levels of engagement.

The DCEU doesn't, really. (SS apart, I haven't seen it)

>>85083727
Bad blood is not that bad. What's the problem?

>>85083925
But in the definition of a blockbuster or what i understand. Jusngle Book doesnt seem like it was made to be one and it was luck that it became one.

>>85083914
This. Us DCfriends aren't fucking sheep like the disney shills. We prefer to judge the movies on their own merits and not based on whether a bunch of paid off shills thought a movie was quippy enough or not.

>>85083999
>Of course RT isn't perfect by any means, but mind the context, there's no similar stakes in Suicide Squad

still doesn't explain how a piece of shit movie lie Ghostbusters has a fresh rating.

RT is not perfect but it shouldn't be that bad either.

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I think too many marvel movies have convinced reviewers anything slightly different is doing it wrong. The biggest complaint seems to be that the movie goes from jokey to serious and doesn't keep constantly quipping the entire time while their team is getting attacked and killed.

>>85083972
My wish is coming true. I wanted critics to hate Suicide Squad and audiences to love it so that the final nail in Rotten Tomatoes' coffin is set. After this, no one will ever listen to critics again.

>>85083972
Jew shills paid them to like that one. And usually Marvel movies get high reviews for the same reason after Disney bought them out.

>>85083749
>Marvel fanboys
Seriously how could anyone take these reviews seriously?

>>85084095
>he thinks the key to getting good reviews is maximum overquip

Yeah, that's what DC and Snyder thought when they ordered reshoots.

>>85083668
that a mockup for a project orion vehicle?

>>85084103
Because it's not an average of scores. The only thing that qualifies a review of fresh is a score of at least 60%. So every critic going "it was okay I guess" would give a 100% rating on RT.

>>85084029
Most of them are 3/5. Full of one dimensional uninteresting and boring characters, and some lame jokes. Good for watching them for one time, but nothing memorable about them.

>>85084095
It's funny how you "DCfriends" are doing the same thing that Disney shills are doing when a marvel movie comes out. Just shows how much more intelligent you "DCfriends" are.

>>85084063
>Ant-Man only made $15m less than Apocalypse
>Ant-Man had bigger profits (not revenue) than BvS (Ant-Man made a clean $100m for Disney)

I liked the movie, but if you told me this 5 years before I'd have punched you. Scott Lang, even, not Pym.

Generic or not, it had great production: great costumes, interesting action pieces, great music (the main theme is in 7/4 ffs). It felt like they perfectly tuned their movie machine to me. It wasn't life-changing but was neat, at least.

>>85084083
All movies want to be a blockbuster you fucking retard.

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IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING

>>85084118
Mob mentality is a hell of a thing in this era.
You dontvwant to know about ppl trying to start shit about a 5 min film Ezra Miller did.

>>85084103
>still doesn't explain how a piece of shit movie lie Ghostbusters has a fresh rating.

It's called "Not everyone shares your opinion," anon. Such as the movie critics who enjoyed Ghostbusters and superhero movies not made by WB.

Marvel ranges from entertaining to dull.

DC ranges from dull to irritating.

I legitimately think that's ANYTHING that's is different than Disney movies will get poorly reviewed. BVS had issues, this one probably has too, but the fact that they are not MUH DISNEY isn't helping.

But maybe the film is actually really shitty

>>85083999
I'm not saying that but I am saying that internet critics are shitty critics.

>>85084020
>billions of flies can't be wrong

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>>85083788
>>85083822
Fuck you WB

>>85083809
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=warner+bros+paying+for+reviews

>>85084137
>Because it's not an average of scores

Yes, we all know, it also shows how easy is to change your score in order to push an agenda.

Ghostbusters 2016 wasn't ''okay I guess'' it was Pixels levels of awful!

That movie getting anything above 20% just goes to show that critics can be paid by anyone

While I can accept SS being bad, I think this raises another issue:

While Marvel isn't paying for better reviews, critics are basically expecting superhero movies to be carbon copies of Marvel. (aka the effective gold standard of the industry to critics)

This could get REALLY shitty in the future as the MCU develops. AOU was incredibly dull and uninspired and that could easily spread like a cancer to the rest.

This guy liked it

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/suicide-squad/review/

>>85083075

Why? Let's say they sell it to Disney.

Do you want DC to follow Marvel Comics trend with their comics?

That's what they get for adapting the shittiest Suicide Squad run and not Ostrander

>>85084185
I agree with that anon that most marvel movies don't make me want to watch them again, but I'm at least entertained the first way through, which is all the data critics have to judge it on.

The first two DC movies made me bored and gave me a genuine headache.

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I'm sure folks will find issues with it and (You) me with plenty of memes but I found this review to be really thorough and informative as far as the flaws:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/suicide-squad-film-review-915825

>>85082901
Still pointing out that he's a DC fan, they should be lamenting together.

>>85084199
But Deadpool was plenty different from "muh disney"

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/reviews/suicide-squad/1900-4469/
>Despite the mostly predictable ending, Suicide Squad is the movie the DC Cinematic Universe needs right now. It retains the already established dark tone of its predecessors while injecting some much-needed moments of humor and humanity. And it feels all the more impressive that the characters who finally get that tone across are traditionally the franchise's villains. Who would have thought a bunch of bad guys could bring so much hope to the superhero genre?

What is the current RT score?

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>>85084095
Dude Will Smith is in your DC movie. Jared Leto is playing the Joker. It's over!

>>85082793
LOL RIP DC

>>85083809
Stay mad faggot http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2016/07/12/youtubers-accepted-payment-wb-positive-game-reviews---ftc/86987586/

>Starts off flavourful, turns rather bland. This Injustice League jaunt proves that DC is still a long way behind Marvel for on-screen action.
>note : 3/5

I mean seriously. The review count as rotten and the guy is making a console war in his review. And that's one of their "top critics"
Rotten Tomatoes and reviews in general are a cancer who dulls critical thinking towards movies.

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So how long untill disney buys DC and fixes this shit?

>>85084220
Critics were pressured, not paid. Saying Ghostbusters was bad meant they hate women.

>>85082906

Did Disney pay off Snyder to make a shitty movie too?

Oh, I know what the hate's all about.

It's because David Ayer said "Fuck Marvel" at the premiere last night.

>>85084221
>While Marvel isn't paying for better reviews, critics are basically expecting superhero movies to be carbon copies of Marvel.
I disagree. SS problem is (apparently) that it's trying too hard to be Marvel, and BvS was trying too hard to not be Marvel, and it shows.

DC should just try to do their own thing, regardless of what Marvel is doing. Trying to dodge/imitate it only makes them look bad.

>>85084300
Disney gives critics a good night out, Dc gives them a shitty one. That counts as a bribe.

>>85084220

>That movie getting anything above 20% just goes to show that critics can be paid by anyone

>people having differing opinions on a comedy, the most subjective style of film outside of horror means a paid conspiracy exists

>>85084221

>While Marvel isn't paying for better reviews, critics are basically expecting superhero movies to be carbon copies of Marvel

Days of Future Past and The Wolverine both got decent-to-great reviews.

Though that cues up the "THAT FRANCHISE GOT GRANDFATHERED IN" because remember, anything that doesn't fit your point-of-view must be dismissed no matter how tenuous the reasoning is.

>>85084284

There is that but there is also the fact that for some reason they are taking into account more SJW critics reviews than regular critics reviews.

Basically most of the positive reviews were given by female critics and blatanly obvious numales.

So they focused their attention on specific shills somehow.

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>It's a "Disney pays people to give DC movies bad reviews" episode
Fucking reruns.

>>85084104
Inconsistent tone is a legitimate criticism. Imagine if you had a fairly realistic crime drama that was peppered with slapstick humor. It would be seen as jarring and detract from the overall movie experience.

It's possible they tried to add humor where there wasn't any before. Or maybe the humor was always there, and those reshoots were for something else. We won't know for sure until well after the release of the movie.

>>85084107
RT isn't going anywhere. It's not unusual for a film to have a Rotten critic score and a Fresh audience score, or vice versa. It's happened before, and it will happen again.

The "don't listen to critics" mantra has existed long before RT was even a thing.

>>85084237

>But the evil is never properly defined and, worse, isn’t personified in a way to balance the firepower of the opposition. In a fuzzy and hokey manner that encourages immediate viewer check-out, unlimited malevolence is made to reside in an ancient witch goddess whose physical heart literally is held by Waller and whose horrific spirit insinuates itself into a modern archeologist (played by Cara Delevingne); the latter’s boyfriend is Kinnaman’s Col. Flag, the guy who just happens to be in charge of the criminal team. Why anyone thought this creaky narrative line was a good idea for a wannabe-edgy superhero action piece is unfathomable. Indeed, it brings any and all investment in what’s going on to a quite complete end.

Fuck me I was fearing this since day one.

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>>85082793
This was supreme kino, people didn't understand the subtle nuances and the director's vision, it was a thought provoking critic to the post-grunge culture of early 2000s, and BvS is a more than worthy succesor to this masterpiece

>le Disney paid the critics

Yeah probably

They also actually make good films as well

>>85084274
>popular youtubers paid to shill games
>Warner Bros. instructed influencers to place the disclosures in the description box appearing below the video.
They made it obvious. It's the idiots' fault for not reading the description.

>>85083718
you are the retard if you cant spot a joking shitpost like that one

>>85084225
Paid by WB

>>85083849
why you idiots like to live in black or White? No, it wasn't a good movie, that doesn't mean it has to be a shit movie either, that rating is earned for a completely forgettable movie that failed to be as good or as bad as everyone wanted.

>>85084169
BvS got 100m in product placement alone you dumbass. BvS sold more clothes than any marvel movie (but this was a sure thing).

DC fans, why can't you accept the movie might simply not be good?

>>85082793
So this pretty much confirms critics are payed off cucks, right? We need criticsgate or something,

>>85084230
Not at all. I think if that happened though, Johns would get back to focusing primarily on comics, while DC Films was handled by Disney. I blame Marvel's current comic situation on the asshats running publishing, not Disney. I am of the opinion that if Disney bought DC, it would not be the case, because despite personnel issues, I believe that DC has people running it who would act to preserve the integrity of the comics division more so than those running Marvel who just want it to be an extension of their movies and/or cheaply cater to Tumblr and Reddit.

>>85084352
Civil War was pure shit.

The "you killed my mom bouuuh" thing was even worse than Martha.

>>85084337
>>people having differing opinions on a comedy, the most subjective style of film outside of horror means a paid conspiracy exists

Its Ghostbusters 2016, the worst movie being released by far this year.

Unless you have shit taste you know I'm right.


>Days of Future Past and The Wolverine both got decent-to-great reviews.

Notice that the moment Fox and DC started talking about a shared universe they started to get terrible reviews from critics.

So, can we kill off Harley now? Please?

>>85084388

>The "you killed my mom bouuuh" thing was even worse than Martha.

Zack please

>>85084110
>>85083972
Nah, it wasn't payment, it was because Paul Feig has a lot of fingers in Hollywood pies and it was considered cool among film-crit circles to loudly shout how excited you were for the film and how any criticism was just misogyny.

It's not bribery, it's playground politics.

>>85084259
Had Will done a rap video, it'd have done well.

That made even Wild Wild West tolerable.

>>85084324
>Disney gives critics a good night out, Dc gives them a shitty one. That counts as a bribe.
As in paying for food an tickets ect. or just enjoying themselves watching a movie

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>>85082793

>>85084367
>No, it wasn't a good movie, that doesn't mean it has to be a shit movie either

But it was shit.

>>85084277
>3/5
>rotten
How does that work? I thought a 60% counted as fresh? How does this trash website function??

>>85084399
She's probably the thing that most people will like about the movie anon

>>85084399
Shut up, Boco.

>>85082793
INVESTORS ARE GONNA FREAK!

>>85084244
Not really, it was just a more bloody and violent capemovie.
The humor was Disney-tier with dirty jokes about sex, poop and funny things.
Exactly what the audience needs. Explosions, sex, muscular and hot actors and funny jokes. That what Suicide Squaw us supposed to be I guess but maybe it's less quippy than we thought.

So far almost all the bad reviews are just about how better Disney is.
No matter what, it will always be about Disney. Reviews are pointless shit. It's just about company wars.

>>85084399
Shut up Boco.

>>85084274
Disney paid WB to destroy their own credibility.

>>85084348
This doesnt make sense when the same thibg basically haopen in Avengers and Civil War.

>>85084284
Sorry but this is some sort of fascism. If they can't express freely their opinion, because of fear or any other reason, then the word "critics" has not meaning anymore.

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>>85084237

>The alluring cast and great expectations roused by some deceptively fun trailers should spark major box office at the outset. But a sense of disappointment will soon enshroud Suicide Squad, as it did the recent Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice.

>>85084375

I saw the movie and it was great, better than Civil War and Age of Ultron I can tell you that much.

>>85084396
"Deadpool" came out this year and was a crítica darling.

"Apocalypse" just wasn't that good, bro.

>>85084399
Shuttle up, Boco.

>>85084337
Don't forget about First Class.

Anyone want to chip in a purchase DC after is collapses?

Wouldn't mind owning all that property

>>85084465
Lol how are those sour grapes, fag?

>>85084399
Shut up Boco you silly dingus :^))

>>85084439
>>85084447
>>85084473

Yes sir...

I still hate her, though.

>>85084079
>Batwoman is a byke slut for big black cock
>Not that bad
No. Kill yourself.

>>85084465
Sure it was, David.

>>85084399

Boco, you jizz gulping faggot, Harley as a character is great. The way she is sometimes used is the problem.

>>85084436
I think that if a movie gets a note better than 60% it counts as fresh. But there is a fresh review where the movie is rated 2/5.
This site is trash. People depend too much on it. Just watch the movie and make your own opinion.
I'm saying that but I make the same mistake myself

>Okay, I mention all that because it is unbelievable to me not one person involved with this movie at any point said, “You know, we have a pretty good thing going here, but maybe our villain is all a bit much? Does our villain have to be a supernatural dancing witch? How about a Russian terrorist instead?


Great critics

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>>85082793
IT'S

NOT

FAIR!

IS DC JUST NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE GOOD MOVIES AFTER TDK?

>>85083849
>rating is 6.6/10
Sounds about right, a mediocre flick.

There's not even anything in there bad enough to laugh at.

>>85083849

The comedy was a lot broader than the original but I still enjoyed it. I thought the fact that they "actionized" it was nice, the Ghostbusters in this film felt more heroic and I think if the effects had been possible in the 80's the original movie would have played out similarly especially given how balls deep Ramis/Aykroyd went into the supernatural stuff in the game.

Generally good IMO.

>>85084472
>"Deadpool" came out this year and was a crítica darling.

Disney weren't worried about an R rated movie since they make kiddie bullshit films.

While X-men Apocalypse and BvS were the starting points of a shared universe.

>>85082906
WB owns 30% of Rotten Tomatoes current owner and they also owned it's previous owner Flixter. I don't understand how people believe this conspiracy when the obvious answer is Marvel makes pleasantly bland unoffensive movies while DC is still struggling to find their footing.

>>85084388
Pretty sure just saying someone's dead moms name, isn't better then watching your mom get killed on screen by the guy right next to you.
Even if we all knew it was going to happen.

>>85084508

Then stop using her for a while. She's getting stale.

They just keep shoving her into EVERY GOD DAMN THING. Enough already.

>>85084317
I'm with Ayer.
Fuck Marvel and all it's pretensions of being a hollywood giant.

>>85084476
Is /tv/ really tgis fucking stupid. DC is more than movies.

>>85084486

Best whine ever.

>>85084517
But I don't want bland white guys in suits for villains

>>85082906
>If BvS has taught us anything, it's that Disney just pays off whoever hires Zack Snyder to trash the movie.
This I can actually believe.

>>85084510
I used to not care about what critics said until I realized that many normies do and that it affects box office. This means that if I like a really good movie and the critics lie and say "lol it sucks" then many normies will not go to see it. Less money means that the companies will not make any more movies with a similar style. Then what will I watch?

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Will he deliver us Batkino?

>>85084530
X-Men has been a shared universe forever. What was going to be different?

The X-Men film universe predates the MCU. The good movies in it have gotten mostly good reviews. The bad ones usually bad reviews. Only a complete retard would try to spin a conspiracy theory out of this.

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>>85084496
Nobody fucking cares.

>>85084375
Fuck you for insinuating these are DC fans.
These assholes keep going "NOT MUH DC" at any criticism. They're in it for console wars not a love of the brand.

>>85084524
>Sounds about right, a mediocre flick.

Try an insult to comedy, that movie was AWFUL.

They weren't even making real jokes! it was just unfunny improv!

>>85083809
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/07/ftc-says-warner-bros-paid-youtubers-to-promote-shadow-of-mordor/

google must be hard for you

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>>85082793

>>85084530
>Disney weren't worried about an R rated movie
Disney isn't worried about films that aren't theirs period.
For every Dory and Civil War you have an Alice 2 and BFG. So you can take off your tinfoil hat.

>>85084556

They cant even make good animated shit anymore

>>85083370
This is a bad thing. Millions of people will see it this weekend and hate it.

>>85084535
I wanted to post "underrated post", but it's too early lel.

Still, you are pretty correct

>>85084535
WB may own a part of RT, but they don't own the "critics" posting there.

>>85083001
>marvelfags are this desperate

>>85084525
>thought the fact that they "actionized" it was nice, the Ghostbusters in this film felt more heroic

Not getting the point that Ghostbusters is not about a bunch of badass terminators, its about a bunch of goof balls trying to earn money.


If anything that ''action'' scene was the lowest point of the movie with thowse terrible Scooby Doo looking ghosts.

And instead of capturing ghosts, they just kill them! no explanations! Bravo Feig!

I don't believe there's some conspiracy that Marvel are paying reviewers to slate DC movies. I thought both MoS and BvS were pretty bad and their poor reviews did not surprise me at all. Suicide Squad could be ass too, I don't know as I haven't seen it.

But at the same time, there's a lot of Marvel movies which in my opinion are boring cookie-cutter trash that have astronomically high scores. I mean Age of Ultron, Thor 2, Iron Man 2 and X-men Apocalypse are all awful. Yet only one of those, has a rotten score on RT. Are people too afraid to give Disney Marvel movies bad reviews after TDKR fiasco, because I can't understand why some of these reviews are so high?

>>85084396

>Notice that the moment Fox and DC started talking about a shared universe they started to get terrible reviews from critics.

Even Oliver Stone would consider this conspiracy theory to be thin.

>>85084284
>>85084460

You people have no proof of this. The reviews were slightly above mediocre and we still have the "HURR IT'S FASCISM FUCKING SJW" bullshit because you already had your pitchforks and torches out and weren't going to let a little thing like "The actual critical response" get in the way of your conspiracy theory bullshit.

It literally didn't matter what the score ended up being, you all decided there was foul play before a single review came out.

>>85084584
It wasn't funny but it's not offensive to my intelligence like an Adam Sandler movie

>>85084601

Well, they can make half good animated shit.

Just don't let Timm canonize his fucking ship fics.

>>85084599
>Alice 2

What? Another kids film?

>>85084569

Bunch of critics are film snobs. They could give a shit about what Disney does. But when Warner Bros makes cape movies they see that as a punishable offense.

They want them to stop and good back to making actual cinema. And so they shit on their films.

>>85084571
>Ben makes the greatest Batman movie of all time
>gets over a billion dollars in box office
>RT rating: 10%
What then?

>>85084569
>Then what will I watch?
Marvel. And Disney.

>>85084628
Neither does RT. Those credits are paid by newspapers or ad revenue.

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>>85084549
FUCK YOU BOCO.

I was a hardcore Venom fan in the 90's. Venom became so popular they shoved him in everything, quality dropped and people got sick of him, so they killed him off and replaced him with a string of successors. Eddie Brock Venom is gone forever.

Guess what will happen if they axe Harley? That's right, there'll be six Harleys, Joker's Daughter will be the main one, and Harleen Quinzel will stay dead.

>>85083618
>Apocalypse may have been kinda shitty
I still don't understand this. Everyone I've talked to, including here on /co/, saw nothing wrong with Apocalypse that wasn't present in the past two movies which are already critically acclaimed. Apocalypse being bad is like a weird actual meme that propagated out of thin air.

>>85083330
>Because it fixes pretty much every problem in the movie and is well worth seeing.

Only DC deluded fanboys thinks this

>>85084641
Marvel's got a nice enough thing going that when a movie disappoints there's enough goodwill toward the broader effort that people overlook shit.

The DC film universe has been one miserably slog after another, and people feel no guilt in ripping each film apart. BvS wasn't even as bad as MoS but it got worse reviews because critics and audiences had no goodwill left after two massive fuckups in a row.

>>85084669
pls no
no more
s t o p

>>85084668

Nah the SJW like old Bin Allahfleck

It'll get atleast 52%

>>85084657
It's not any more mature than Batman hitting Superman with a sink in BvS.

4 TRADES OF OSTRANDER SQUAD IS OUT

>>85084674

Dear Primus....

Okay, keep her! Keep her!

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>Man of Steel remains the highest-rated DCEU movie at 55%

This is not how you kick off a cinematic universe.

>Suicide Squad Isn’t Even the Good Kind of Bad

> Ayer’s super-villain team-up is dull, uninspired, and perhaps worst of all, forgettable.

>Suicide Squad is bad. Not fun bad. Not redeemable bad. Not the kind of bad that is the unfortunate result of artists honorably striving for something ambitious and falling short. Suicide Squad is just bad. It’s ugly and boring, a toxic combination that means the film’s highly fetishized violence doesn’t even have the exciting tingle of the wicked or the taboo.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/08/suicide-squad-review

>>85084700
YOU WILL FUCKING WATCH IT AND YOU BETTER LIKE IT, UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET THE HOSE

AGAIN
G
A
I
N

>>85083849
Still got the feeling that everyone was so afraid to talk shit about the movie because of the campaign.

>>85082793
Kek I called it, Suicide Squad is the Batman & Robin of the DCEU.
You know, the movie could've probably been great if they didn't decide to retroactively add a slew of horrendous quips to be "more like Marvel".

>>85083330
False flag. Theatrical cut had no problems.

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Ayer might be on actual suicide watch.

>>85084646

Then you probably don't know shit about movies, that was beyond insulting.

They didn't even got the concept of catching ghosts! They started just killing the ghosts with their proton packs during the third act!

No Ghostbusters fan can say that the movie ''wasn't that bad, it was ok'' after that

>>85084717

>MOS is unironically the best DC movie in the past 4 years

jesus christ

>>85084682
it's wasn't bad it was just....there. there was nothing good or bad about it, it was entirely forgettable

I have a strong feeling that Deadpool 2 will have negative reviews.

I am also 100% certain that Doctor Strange will have over 90% rating on RT

>>85084481
>Not "JUST FUCK MY LEAGUE UP"

>>85083849
Honestly, the shitstorm surrounding the movie will be more popular than the film itself. The film wasn't bad, just boring, they only busted one ghost until the end.

>>85084708
>It's not any more mature than Batman hitting Superman with a sink in BvS.

Yeah, its not more mature than BvS, its a dull kids film.

>>85083501
But Marvel hasn't made a good movie or comic since the 60s

>>85084641
Marvel still has inoffensive or good movies that makes people have goodwill towards them.

If Suicide squad is as bad as some critics are saying and it's not just company wars, then WB is at 0/3. MOS and BvS are either considered bad or divisive at best. People are much more likely to rip something apart if there aren't good movies attached to it.

>>85084743
what the fuck does that mean

>>85084735

That's exactly why.

And then it fizzled out. Que sera sera.

So let's be serious :

MOS : 6/10
BVS UC : 8/10

DCEU : underrated/10

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>>85084717
>TDK armor
Such a sight for sore eyes after seeing Affleck's abysmal batsuit everywhere.

>>85084601
JLA looks great

>>85084682
It was the best X-Men movie, but they made a mistake by putting it in the same month as Civil War.

>>85084523
Even TDKR was better than the current DCEU movies. I mean, given a choice between watching TDKR, Man of Steel, and Dawn of Justice every day for the rest of my life, I'd easily fucking choose TDKR.

>>85084785

>BVS UC : 8/10

It was worse than the normal cut

>>85082956
yeah the scene where Joker pisses on Harley needed to be longer, more graphic, and end with a ten-man gangbang

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>>85083476
>The Dirty Dozen for the Hot Topic generation
That might be the worst sentence I've ever heard.

>>85084699
>BvS wasn't even as bad as MoS
how delusional are you? BvS was so bad it pulled MoS down with it

>>85084765
I mean, I rather watch Apocalypse than any Thor movie, but it was reviewed as if it was The Last Stand. I don't understand. A score around 70% seems fitting, not what it got.

>>85084785
MoS: 8.5/10
BvS: 10/10
BvS UC: 11/10

>>85084782
>I'd rather die standing than live on wheels.

>>85084800
That choice sounds extremely painful

>>85084743
>>85084782

More or less:
>I'd prefer to die on my feet than to live on my knees.

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https://www.twitter.com/GraceRandolph?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Grace Randolph conspiracy theories about DC bias incoming.

>>85084802
>It waas more kino than the normal cut

>>85084804
That scene isn't in the movie.

>>85084785
MOS: 6/10 agreed
BVS: 4/10

I haven't seen the UC, but I can't imagine it'd boost it up a whole 4 points for me.

>>85084782
"I would prefer to die standing up than living on my knees"

>>85084848
T H I C C

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Rare Evans incoming

>>85084800
TDKR is fucking bad though.

>>85084728
Holy shit i want to strangle these people
EBERT PLEASE SAVE US

>>85084785
MOS: 6/10
BvS: 3/10
BvS UC: 5/10
SS: 7/10

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It's like Disney wasn't even subtle with their shills

>>85084870

SS Extended Cut ho!

>>85084736

>You know, the movie could've probably been great if they didn't decide to retroactively add a slew of horrendous quips to be "more like Marvel".

I wonder how many times this has to be debunked and how many times people have to explain that every David Ayer film outside of Fury is filled to the brim with quips and banter before this meme stops.

A dozen? A hundred? A thousand? I'm genuinely curious, there has to be a point where you get it through your skull that this wasn't the purpose of the reshoots.

>>85084815
I think MoS was far worse but what the hell does it matter when they're all terrible?

>>85082793
Alright, lads. Prepare for more contrarian threads about how this is the greatest kino to ever kino, as if the constant BvS threads weren't fucking enough.

>>85084847
But you got down on your knees when WB starting meddling with your movie didn't you Ayer?