What's up, mah muggas?
Alright, let's do this shit. The series that soured Cyclops in the eyes of many!
PREVIOUSLY ON X-MEN:
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>>85068858
This cant be right, we are in the 90s already ?
Also who demanded this ?
Fucking love me some X-Factor. After the rocky start this series gets so good.
Enjoy that peace while it lasts, Cyke!
Also when you get to the part where the x-men meet the inhumans, start a new thread for that issue so people can see Inhumans and x-men have never been enemies until now.
>>85068916
1985. Close enough.
>Mutant: Myth or Menace
>By J. Jonah Jameson
Fuckin' hell.
>>85069070
Oooor I could that with the First Class issue where they fight :D
>>85069082
lol
>>85068967
Yeah. Bob Layton's issues are pretty shitty, but Weezie almost immediately turns things around.
And you enjoy those wings while you can, Warren.
>>85068945
Nostalgiafags
>I wonder what mutie power she has?
I like how can't even consider the possibility that a regular old human would hang out with a bunch of mutants.
>>85068967
>>85069213
Oh yeah, love Weezie's X-Factor, especially with her husband on art duties.
>Hmmmm! On second thought...
Wow, OK.
That's what I call a hot date.
Oh, but Reed "Mr. Fantastic" Richards gets a free pass, huh? Marvel citizens, everybody.
>It could be a chance for you and Jean to--
Warren, you slut.
>>85069585
MUTANT RACISTS
FUCKIN' HELL
>>85069679
Don't you have a school to take care of, Mags?
>>85069703
And because of the editorial mandate that was this moment in X-Factor, we began barrelling into Inferno and forever will Shit on Scott for being a bad husband and Dad.
Here we go.
>>85069835
Yep. Poor Scott.
>What's with all this gratuitous exposition, Warren?!
>>85069192
It was Cyclops and Medusa foreplay
The Simonsons' run isn't on Marvel Unlimited so I"m excited to get there.The Owl superior
>It actually sounds kind of dumb when you say it out loud
>>85069070
i'm so mad they aren't working together to help each other. it's like marvel forgot the fight part is only act 1 of the team up
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>>85069271
i never got why Kurt Busiek comics left me cold, then I found out he loves the O5 and kind of helped bring back Jean
>>85069976
Yeah, I was pretty surprised at the lack of digital rips for this series.
>>85069585
I think in the Marvel U Reed is one of the first men and first americans in space among other accomplishments
Well, I can see where Rachel got her propensity for tantrums.
>>85069192
That does not look like a remotely functional way of carrying baggage, Hank.
>All screwed up...
You got that right.
Claremont not writing this makes everything seem so off.
I do like this book carries the torch of "Find and help new mutants"
>>85070033
I love Busiek but goddamn should he stay away from the X-Men.
>>85069820
They left to go find BirdBoy. But seriously Magneto as headmaster is x10 better than Prof X
>Think of my reputation!
Whatta prick!
>that cape
lol
>>85070192
I wish he had gotten to write X-Men the Hidden Years, though. (He was one of several people who pitched the idea before Byrne finally sold it.) He'd be good on the O5. Just keep him away from anything else.
(I just found out Busiek wrote a "What If the original X-Men stayed together?" story where Nightcrawler dies in the end, because OF COURSE.)
I like how in comics guys conveniently grow stubbles at the most dramatic of moments.
>>85069343
It really should not have taken a change in writer for Scott to at least CALL Maddie.
>>85070301
Always be ready to watch people die in What Ifs!
>>85070333
thats how bad early XF was.
>>85069407
Maybe she's just planning on building in a sex dungeon without authorization?
>>85069490
There's a kind of through line from Cyclops to Rusty Collins to Chamber, of X-characters with horrifying powers that they can't really trust to not kill anyone they get intimate with.
It's a shame Rusty ended up on the fodder pile, and relatively early, too.
How the fuck did you expect this to end, dumbass? You don't bring a gun to a superpowers fight.
>>85069155
Husband of the year.
>>85070380
Now THAT is something that would make this run 10x better!
>>85070463
It's not his fault, dammit :(
>>85069703
She doesn't even ask WHY.
If one of your oldest friends called you out of the blue and told you he needed you to fly somewhere, you'd think your spouse would at least ask why before saying no.
Like, shit. That could just as easily be like, Hank's funeral or something.
I like how they all put on shades so Cyke doesn't look that weird.
>>85070445
He's also in the list of mutants who never got a good codename so everyone just calls him by name
>>85070540
To his creditnothing physical happens until after he thinks Maddy is dead
The costumes, while simple, are fairly nice.
>>85070192
>Taking your clothes off in my office
Yeah. That would be a pretty baffling reaction to not getting the job after an interview.
>maneuver twelve
Now I'm wondering what maneuvers one to eleven are.
>>85070705
>Please, I'll do anything for this job! ANYTHING!
>Ha ha! I'm rich but I'm still keeping all the money!
>>85070654
Angel finally get's a good costume. He makes the exposed hair headpiece work because his blonde hair gives him a halo
...
And now back to scans because for some reason Marvel doesn't have these issues in their digital catalog.
>>85070591
This is true. Which is bizarre, because how many fire-related words are there that he COULD have been given?
Bah, stop yer cryin'! Come back to me when you've actually died!
>>85070301
I think I might have that issue.
Also, a Busiek Hidden Years would probably have been about as good as his Untold Spider-Man or First Class.
>>85069155
Damn homie at least lie to the bitch! Mr. Summers H.O.H.S 1k85 lol
>>85070869
He got Flamefist or Firefist.
This conflict is so forced.
Ah yes, the old and proven "Ninja Turtle" disguise.
Oh come on Hank, it's just a sidecut! You're acting like a/co/mrade
>Tower
Well, that's not very creative.
>>85070775
Cheating bigots out of their money while funny doesn't seem very superheroic.
Damn, straight up kicked him into the wall.
>>85070426
If you're seeing girls walking through your wall
Who you gonna call? (X-Factor)
An living steel man
Using you to break his fall
Who you gonna call? (X-Factor)
Holy shit! Did Vera get crushed or something? That's what it looks like, anyway.
>>85071272
It seems like something Gambit would be a part of
>It's bad enough with your mother in the same building!
lol
>>85070654
Also, a good template for the superior Simonson suits. (Well, except Angel's, but that's because reasons.)
Oh yeah, remember THIS guy?
Ha ha, what a dummy!
>>85071454
Is the Archangel look one of those classic Marvel costumes? It hasn't really been messed with much since its introduction.
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>>85071570
the gimmick of pretending to be mutant catchers to find and help people is pretty solid too.
>>85071607
Yeah, the book wasn't fully dead in the water, it just wasn't a very well thought out idea.
>>85071607
Except that they're perpetuating the fear of mutants and if they're successful they'll just encourage real mutant huntersAlso the whole Cameron Hodge thing
>>85071699
ok it's not 100% great but I like playing the fear against people aspect. and maybe if it was less hunt and kill but more openly helpful?
Boom, you got Cyke'd.
>>85070968
Which is too lame, and came after way too many issues of him being "Rusty Collins, the fire guy" for it too really stick.
>>85071699
That is a fair point though.
>>85071607
The fact that it turned out to be Cameron Hodge playing Warren like a chump was a good twist to the idea, too.
Oh no, not the Negative Man!
Well, what did you expect, you idiot?
>He's gonna use him for some kinda experiment at the...
How dramatically convenient.
Well, that was somewhat pointless.
Ah yes, my favorite X-Man, Mummy Man.
>Gentlemen, would it make a difference if I told you that I'm a major stockholder in this...
>GET THEM!!
hee hee
>>85072172
> So our friend is being experiment on, but seriously can you tell Jean you're not available so I can cheat on my girlfriend with her?
>Did I forget about the alarm system?
D'oh?
>>85072235
He's such a slut.
>shoot to kill if necessary
Weren't you guys already doing that?
Are you sure it's not just goold old fashioned progeria?
>>85072453
>goold
wut
Honestly? You look like you stuck your finger in an electrical socket.
>The Beast is back!
He never left, ya dinguses.
>>85071254
Y'know, given how often they went to that beatnik coffee bar in the Silver Age (which I'm still plugging away at, X-Anon, desu is much slower reading) I don't think this should be that shocking a character shift. It's basically an evolution of what the quirky alternative set was from the 60s to the 80s. Or whatever the sliding timescale equivalent dates were.
What a pointless idea changing back Beast was.
>>85071272
Warren's supposed to be sympathetic?
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>>85072623
I was waiting for this
http://www.strawpoll.me/10893542
>>85072711
The former, because the latter got undone later anyway.
I kind of like how they kinda sorta kept Beast's crazy hair. Even though it looks absolutely retarded.
>>85071592
Ah, Artie. I think you're exiled into the multiverse along with Leech because you're friends with Franklin.
>>85072752
Don't Cyclops and Frenzy hook up at some point in the far future?
You know, if his power failed for some reason, those icicles would straight up kill him. Just sayin'.
>>85072840
I'm guessing that's what Jean is for
Geez Jean, give it a rest, willya?
>>85072797
Only in Age of X.
>>85072711
I'm going with write in vote on "Giving Rob Liefeld his start"
Shit ship, desu.
>>85072879
Well, Frenzy came out of that looking to bang Scott, so it still kinda counts, maybe?
>>85072863
Oh yeah, d'oh.
>>85072938
Yeah, I guess it did add another girl toScott's harem
Jean, Emma, Maddie, Frenzy, Betsy, Colleen... am I forgetting someone?
>Say Jim-- why don'tcha show ol' chilly dog some presidents?
Well, that's one way to start a mugging I suppose.
>Mutoids
Oh man, I gotta call Marvel, I got them their hot new X-spin-off!
>>85073002
Lee Forrester.
I'm assuming Tyke had a space girlfriend in his solo book?
>>85073002
People like Scott don't think of them as harems. This shit is so amazingly stereotypical...
That Frenzyface in the first panel would make for a good reaction image.
>>85072334
So Maneuver 12 is huddle around Jean's TK bubble to survive a collapsing structure, and Maneuver 6 is "Grab a flyer, I'm blowing up the floor"
>>85073088
Oh right.
>>85073002
Lee Forrester
>>85073128
It's just a joke, senpai.
>>85073088
>I'm assuming Tyke had a space girlfriend in his solo book?
There was one that wanted him, but he was hung up on Jean so nothing happened
>I'm too confused to say no
kek?
It's like I'm in a Saturday Morning Cartoon or something.
That's all for today, tomorrow: back to New Mutants! 'till then!
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>>85068858
It's not Scott's fault, this is really obvious editorial mandate.
>>85072623
I feel like even people who wanted the O5 back in 1985 still weren't asking for Beast to be regressed back to shoeless, gloveless Humberto Ramos Spider-Man mode.
Like, yeah, sure, bring back the original X-Men. But why 'fix' the look he'd been popularly using in Avengers and Defenders books for a decade?
>>85072783
Beast lecturing people on having to control their powers is bullshit.
There's a major difference between being able to hang from a ceiling tile with your toes, and accidentally burning the shit out of everything within eyeshot when you sneeze.
>>85069192
warren is cute
>>85073197
And there's Maneuver Three, "Hit them with OPTIC BLAST, TK, and Angel simultaneously, to stun for a freezing.
>>85073256
Scott really needs to have a sit down chat with Rusty about the horror of uncontrollable powers.
>>85073695
You're too into this shit man, I hope you're 8 or something.
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>>85070602
So, punch-beam changes color now?
>>85074222
Well, they have to, you can't give him pink eye-rays when he's on a team with an angelic prettyboy, a hairy guy that won't stop mentioning that he owns garters, and a flaming homose- I mean, a heteronormal and virile man who only ever liked women until he angered Jean grey.
People will talk...
Conformity is the only way.
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>>85069155
For a long time now I've headcannoned that Professor X brainraped Scott into being so compulsively devoted to the X-Men's cause and Jean unintentionally brainraped him into falling madly in love with her.
The guy has forever been torn between being obsessively loyal to those two and having any kind of life of his own. (affairs included)
Nobody is that good without brainwashing.
>>85074854
it's an increasingly popular fan theory
for bonus points, consider the possibility that prof.x contributed to scott being programmed to love jean, so that his perfect proxy soldier could love her in his stead
Does anyone have a link to the last Vol. 3 Great X-men Storytime thread? I'm behind as hell since the last thing I read was Part 49 with Legion and Fat Karma.
>>85073520
Everyone knew it was editorially imposed, but that can still make a character toxic. And even Marvel knew it, as they completely threw Maddie under the bus in an attempt to salvage Scott, which pissed a segment of the readership off even more.
>>85069369
>without a Scott Summers or Professor Xavier around, we're not much to write home about
It's impressive how much things have changed for Hank
>>85069029
And I thought their vacation in the Savage Land took forever.
>>85079536
Thanks, Anon. It is going to take me ages to catch up the the "present".
thanks OP y que viva Mexico!
>>85069703
God, I hate this character so very much.
It was a teenage crush, Scott. You moved on. You got married. You have a goddam newborn child.
Then the book played Three's Company level shenanigans for multiple issues instead of just telling Jean. They even had to nerf her telepathy to set up that comedy of errors.
I hated every single aspect of the premise of X-Factor.
>>85070426
I'm at a loss of how the O5 thought pretending to be a professional mutant hunting team as a pretense to gather up new, new mutants to train, a "Mutie-Busters" organization, was a good idea.
You're going to rile up more anti-mutant sentiment in the already-hostile 616? Scott is brain-fried, I'll allow. Bobby is a moron. But Jean, Warren, and Hank couldn't see how stupendously harmful this would be?